How exited can you be really you bought it 10 years ago and just going to shoot it 😱 I buy one and I go immediately that weekend 😅 congratulations on your amazing find
I have a 1954 Model 70. The two screw holes on the left side of the receiver are from the factory and are for a side-mounted peep sight. My rifle has the same holes but are filled with plug screws.
Do not rebarrel please. I beg you, the front sight is milled into the barrel,go to Brownells you can get the hood. I restored my father's 1957 model 70 it worth 1200 or more keep shooting, Russ from Ky
That is in exceptionally good shape for being a almost 70 year old rifle, when folks bought those, they didn't buy them to sit on a mantle, they are through and through deer/elk/whatever you want hunting rifles! Fantastic, detailed and thorough walkthrough of the rifle!
I built several custom rifles from cheap beat up pre-64's back in the 90's. One of them was a 270 made in 1949. Original barrel was capable of cloverleafs at 200 yds off a bench. Wish I still had that rifle. Push the rounds down unto the mag well; they then feed smoothly. And these rifles are capable of smoothly cycling empty brass from the magazine with the rifle upside down.
Optics has NOTING to do as the gun shoots.!!! CONTROL FEED, it means that it takes a round FROM THE MAGAZINE, never drop a round IN FRONT of the bolt.!!! You can BREAK the extractor claw if you, WRONGLY, insert a round IN FRONT of the bolt, FORCING the extractor claw to jump over the "rim" of the case head.!!!!!! THAT'S for PUSH FEED.!!!
@@brianinthewildcolorado2778 Sorry to say that, Sir, but it seems, that you are making a video, knowing zilch about the subject you are talking about... For your info. those two holes in the rear side of the action, are factory made, (and pluged), for a RECEIVER SIGHT.!!!
I have an 1893 Marlin that was produced in 1901 chambered in 44-40 and it does need barrel work but it is a nice wall hanger 😁. I would definitely take yours on a hunt. Thanks for the video.
Brian... Great Video, I'm Subscribing! Congrats...! GREAT Find👍for $250.00! Summer 2022, found a post-war 1948 Model 70 (NRA 88-90%) chambered in .30-06 Springfield... All OEM parts present... front sight hood, barrel sight dovetail filler blank... and even plug screws for left side of receiver, factory drilled holes for rear sight. Prior Owner changed trigger... (OEM box of trigger parts did not come with the rifle) for a Timney (very nice trigger) and new Leupold VX-Freedom 3-9x40mm SFP Duplex Reticle w/Talley rings... Will upgrade to Leupold VX-6HD 3-18x44mm SFP Illuminated Red TMOA Reticle. Interesting, original metal butt plate (hard!) on excellent condition furniture. Have Not Shot the rifle yet, but I won't wait 10 years like You! Found it really interesting how you performed diagnostic borescoping the barrel to access condition... Excellent comments, I learned what to look for when I perform the same procedure to my $1,000.00 (fair price for condition in California) storied Winchester Pre-'64 Model 70... The Rifleman's Rifle...! Good Judgement... Keep Your Rifle As Is; Still a Great Shooter and the Deer🦌 Won't Know the Difference! Cheers! Gung Fu Cowboy San Francisco Chinatown
The way you run that action hurts my heart.Someone probably already mentioned that your Model 70 came with a gorgeous metal butt plate. The add on recoil pad was done pretty badly, which halves the value but I sure would have grabbed it. I saw one similar just a couple weeks ago, priced at $900. That barrel will shoot fine. You should see some of my rack grade M1 Garands that still meet their original spec for MOA.
I have a 1959 pre 64 264 win mag that has the exact same butt plate / pad on it. I believe it is factory and it would make it a westerner! Put your crosshairs just on the bottom of the bullseye to get a group when the crosshairs cover the Bull.
A fine rifle, take it out of the stock, clean and lightly oil with preservative, seal the stock if needed, assemble and torque front and rear action screws to 35 inch pounds, the middle screw just snugged, the barrel bedding screw in the forearm 5 to 8 inch pounds, load some h4350 and some 140 berger hunting vlds touching the lands...
The LH rcvr side holes was used to mount a peep sight. Dat'll make the iron sites more accurate. And it'll make the gun look more nicer. As u know, military used peep sights during the war bc. it's of the accuracy and less vulnerable than the buck horn type. Try it. U'll like it
That's a controlled feed. It's supposed to pick the shell up from the magazine. By loading a single e you're trying to close the bolt extractor over the case
The old school fix ... take a business card cut about a third off fold it in half place it between barrel and end of the forwood, you want 5 lbs of pressure up front. How do you know if you have 5 pounds? When you shoot 1/2 inch groups. End of story.
@@easttexan2933 Possibly, but I've inherited firearms that have NEVER been cleaned (40+ years) before I got my hands on them and there's no rust in the barrel.
Yiu need to shoot various bullets not just 1 type to get your best group Many rifles are particular to a specific bullet like the partition accubond or barnes
I have a 1st year 4 digit model 54 in 3006 that shoots into 1 ragged hole at 100 yds Work up a load for that 70 and you will have a shooter sub moa for sure.again congrats
I have a model 70 3006 built in 1957 I am loading 180 Sierra pro hunter over 55 grains of H 414 3 shots touching at 100 yds my barrel is worse looking than yours due to the manufacturing process at the time
So you buy a Pre64 Mod 70 Winchester and put it up for 10 years without doing anything to it? Who does that? Just screaming inside myself when you were trying to force that bolt. Had you no knowledge at that time of mauser actions and how they worked. You seemed to be some kind of a gun guy by your shop, but IDK !!
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CRF actions are supposed to be fed from the mag. I've owned a few Pre64's in my 77 years. Arguably the best hunting rifle ever made.
You are correct sir.
How exited can you be really you bought it 10 years ago and just going to shoot it 😱 I buy one and I go immediately that weekend 😅 congratulations on your amazing find
I have a 1954 Model 70. The two screw holes on the left side of the receiver are from the factory and are for a side-mounted peep sight. My rifle has the same holes but are filled with plug screws.
Do not rebarrel please. I beg you, the front sight is milled into the barrel,go to Brownells you can get the hood. I restored my father's 1957 model 70 it worth 1200 or more keep shooting, Russ from Ky
I was.gonna.say....rear peeps sight for those two holes. Good call
That is in exceptionally good shape for being a almost 70 year old rifle, when folks bought those, they didn't buy them to sit on a mantle, they are through and through deer/elk/whatever you want hunting rifles! Fantastic, detailed and thorough walkthrough of the rifle!
Going to change scopes on it and see if I can get the groups a bit tighter and blast a deer with it
@@brianinthewildcolorado2778Scope has NOTHING to do with YOUR grouping.!!!
I built several custom rifles from cheap beat up pre-64's back in the 90's. One of them was a 270 made in 1949. Original barrel was capable of cloverleafs at 200 yds off a bench. Wish I still had that rifle. Push the rounds down unto the mag well; they then feed smoothly. And these rifles are capable of smoothly cycling empty brass from the magazine with the rifle upside down.
For an old gun, I was super impressed. With a new optic that’s gonna be a deer slayer
Optic is in the works. Wanna see how it shoots with some hand loads and better optics.
Optics has NOTING to do as the gun shoots.!!!
CONTROL FEED, it means that it takes a round FROM THE MAGAZINE, never drop a round IN FRONT of the bolt.!!!
You can BREAK the extractor claw if you,
WRONGLY, insert a round IN FRONT of the bolt, FORCING the extractor claw to jump over the "rim" of the case head.!!!!!!
THAT'S for PUSH FEED.!!!
The claw extractor is supposed to feed out of the magazine
Yeah I remembered that half way thru the shooting session, you’re 100 percent correct. Thanks for the comment Scott
@@brianinthewildcolorado2778
Sorry to say that, Sir, but it seems, that you are making a video, knowing zilch about the subject you are talking about...
For your info. those two holes in the rear side of the action, are factory made, (and pluged), for a RECEIVER SIGHT.!!!
That barrel looks great for its age
I have an 1893 Marlin that was produced in 1901 chambered in 44-40 and it does need barrel work but it is a nice wall hanger 😁. I would definitely take yours on a hunt. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the comment Keith
Brian... Great Video, I'm Subscribing!
Congrats...! GREAT Find👍for $250.00! Summer 2022, found a post-war 1948 Model 70 (NRA 88-90%) chambered in .30-06 Springfield... All OEM parts present... front sight hood, barrel sight dovetail filler blank... and even plug screws for left side of receiver, factory drilled holes for rear sight.
Prior Owner changed trigger...
(OEM box of trigger parts did not come with the rifle) for a Timney (very nice trigger) and new Leupold VX-Freedom 3-9x40mm SFP Duplex Reticle w/Talley rings... Will upgrade to Leupold VX-6HD 3-18x44mm SFP Illuminated Red TMOA
Reticle. Interesting, original metal butt plate (hard!) on excellent condition furniture.
Have Not Shot the rifle yet, but I won't wait 10 years like You! Found it really interesting how you performed diagnostic borescoping the barrel to access condition... Excellent comments, I learned what to look for when I perform the same procedure to my $1,000.00
(fair price for condition in California)
storied Winchester Pre-'64 Model 70...
The Rifleman's Rifle...!
Good Judgement... Keep Your Rifle As Is;
Still a Great Shooter and the Deer🦌 Won't Know the Difference!
Cheers!
Gung Fu Cowboy
San Francisco Chinatown
My heart dropped every time he forced the bolt closed.
Good oil and shoot afew fmj's your Good I have a 1952 308 shoots dime size groups at 100 yds factory federal 168 gr not shot hand loads yet
First year of the 308. Nice! However, I don't think I've ever seen fmj 270
The two holes drilled on the side of the action was probably a Lyman 48 WJS receiver peep sight!
OF COURSE...
You are correct🙌 that’s what is on both of the 2 I bought a couple years back
The way you run that action hurts my heart.Someone probably already mentioned that your Model 70 came with a gorgeous metal butt plate. The add on recoil pad was done pretty badly, which halves the value but I sure would have grabbed it. I saw one similar just a couple weeks ago, priced at $900. That barrel will shoot fine. You should see some of my rack grade M1 Garands that still meet their original spec for MOA.
Nice I got a good deal on a pre 64 but not as low as you did mine is 300 H&H though and it shoots great it cloverleaf 180 grain bullets at a 100 yards
That’s awesome, thanks for the comments Scott
I live here in Colorado also my model 70 was made in 1955
Hope you didn’t screw up the extractor ALWAYS LOAD FROM MAGAZINE!!
Receiver sight mounted on the side.
I have a 1959 pre 64 264 win mag that has the exact same butt plate / pad on it. I believe it is factory and it would make it a westerner! Put your crosshairs just on the bottom of the bullseye to get a group when the crosshairs cover the Bull.
Dig the rifle brother
A fine rifle, take it out of the stock, clean and lightly oil with preservative, seal the stock if needed, assemble and torque front and rear action screws to 35 inch pounds, the middle screw just snugged, the barrel bedding screw in the forearm 5 to 8 inch pounds, load some h4350 and some 140 berger hunting vlds touching the lands...
The front edge of the extractor is beveled on pre-64's allowing one to close the bolt on a round that is not fed from the magazine.
Good information, you know your pre '64 model 70's. I've always toped mine off like that .
put the rounds in the magazine, if you feed it like that you will break the claw extractor. Its a controlled round feed rifle
They probably had a Lyman rear adjustable peep site it mounts with two screws on the left side of the action.
The LH rcvr side holes was used to mount a peep sight. Dat'll make the iron sites more accurate.
And it'll make the gun look more nicer. As u know, military used peep sights during the war bc. it's
of the accuracy and less vulnerable than the buck horn type. Try it. U'll like it
That barrel is in great shape. There is nothing wrong with that barrel.
I can't wait to get mine
2 Holes on left side were for a Lyman # 48 micrometer rear sight
That's a controlled feed. It's supposed to pick the shell up from the magazine. By loading a single e you're trying to close the bolt extractor over the case
There's 3 types of bolts for the model 70. Controlled feed, push feed, And push feed with extractor
Its a control feed not a pushfeed you must put the cartridge in the magazine.
Love the pre 64s. I’m looking at a 4digit 06 right now.
One of my dream guns there. It should have a stripper clip guide.
The old school fix ... take a business card cut about a third off fold it in half place it between barrel and end of the forwood, you want 5 lbs of pressure up front. How do you know if you have 5 pounds? When you shoot 1/2 inch groups. End of story.
Lucky
do you know the labor intensive process to make that barrel. that was hands on not like today
What I like is that the front sight base is milled into the barrel. Same as the bolt handle which is the same piece of steel as the bolt.
The pitting in the bore is caused from not running a patch down the barrel after hunting in the rain.
or it go be from not cleaning the bore and allowing powder residue to sit in the bore for years (10 to be exact).
@@easttexan2933 Possibly, but I've inherited firearms that have NEVER been cleaned (40+ years) before I got my hands on them and there's no rust in the barrel.
@@wizardofahhhs759 very unusual.
If I had to guess I would think that copper and lead build -up protects the bore to an extent, but that's just a theory, I have no proof of that.
Beautifull pie e of machinery.. Enjoyit
Yiu need to shoot various bullets not just 1 type to get your best group
Many rifles are particular to a specific bullet like the partition accubond or barnes
Those two holes were from the factory to mount a peep sight
sight housing milled in barrel
The but plate would have been steel
I have a 1st year 4 digit model 54 in 3006 that shoots into 1 ragged hole at 100 yds
Work up a load for that 70 and you will have a shooter sub moa for sure.again congrats
I have a model 70 3006 built in 1957 I am loading 180 Sierra pro hunter over 55 grains of H 414 3 shots touching at 100 yds my barrel is worse looking than yours due to the manufacturing process at the time
I have a '57 vintage model 70 30-06. Like you I like H414. Good balistics, and it sure flows nicely though a measure.
Got an model 70 pre 64
Peep sights made by Lyman will cost you more than the Rifle, Nice rifle ,clean it shoot it.
Despite his vast knowledge..he is push feeding a Control Round Feed Winchester Model 70 😢
its not a original butt plate... re metal
There is nothing wrong with that gun , it’s just fine.I’ll give you what you think is a fair price for it as is.Seriously.Just let me know.
1953 30-06
make you some good hand loads, it'll shoot sub 1 inch
250$ !!?? It's a cruel prank if you are joshing us.
So you buy a Pre64 Mod 70 Winchester and put it up for 10 years without doing anything to it? Who does that? Just screaming inside myself when you were trying to force that bolt. Had you no knowledge at that time of mauser actions and how they worked. You seemed to be some kind of a gun guy by your shop, but IDK !!
Great rifle to make a custom out of
I’ll give you 500$ for it