My biggest fear as math student right now is ending up as a high school teacher. I realized this after graduating but the majority of students dont even pay attention to you and I feel like I would be wasting my time. I know some of you love teaching but that's the reality. I would love to be a researcher or an actuary.
I don’t believe myself super moral but being an actuary would feel pretty bad and make me guilty. Especially if you end up in a particularly bad agency.
That's exactly the same fear that I have, I don want to end up as a high school teacher as well. That's just not my passion but sometimes I just feel like I might end up there
That's why I decided to go straight to becoming a professor of math and refuse to ever become a HS teacher permanently. You're very right about that. At least at the college level you'll run into a lot more students that DO care. Especially in classes like calculus. At least that's what I've seen.
I don't think that's a legitimate concern for anyone, unless everyone in this chain is talking about stopping at a bachelor. In which case, yes a high school teacher is a very possible outcome/trap if that's where you end your studies. A different major would be a wise choice (like physics) if you are early enough in your bachelor's.
😂😂😂 But there is a surprising amount of math, number theory in particular, that can go into drumming. I'd recommend taking a look at the Tala (music) wikipedia page which talks about a measure system of Carnatic and Hindustani music (or Indian Classical music in general) and is often used in drumming in those styles of music to produce complex rhythms.
I have been programming phones a long time. Programming phones leads to finding quicker ways to program phones, which leads to hacking databases, or now days learning programming and API's. Now those programming and API skills are being used and standardized for software defined networking. I study math for fun and to better understand analytics.
My strong mathematics background (BA, MA) helped a great deal in my engineering career (MS, PhD) . I was able to do very interesting analyses and formulate algorithms (from trajectories to modal analysis). Many engineers come up very short in math.
@s v I talked to a guy who said he had a degree in math but the only thing he could remember is "the integral of x is x squared." He made three mistakes there. First - you can't integrate x - you need x dx. Second - the integral of x dx is one half x squared. Third - he left out the constant of integration.
@s v I knew another guy who said he had an Associates Degree in math but he didn't know how to compute the area of a rectangle. I swear this is true. He said he didn't believe in memorizing things that he could just look up. SMH
I took eight mechanical engineering classes after getting my masters in math. Couldn't find work in math without teaching, so I tried engineering classes. Many in the class were weak at math and the math they used wasn't too intense in free body diagrams and stuff. I thought I'd get a mechanical technician job or something by now. I read about a new mechanical engineer that couldn't find work until he got trained in cnc machining. I guess you train until you die.
I'm software engineering major, and I'm applying for math major for master's degree, because I love math so much, and it's my passion. I'm thinking what carrier opportunities I'll have
My advice if you love math but are not seriously good / excel at it in a exceptional way, is to get a BS in mathematics and then a MS in computer science / robotics / physics / software engineering.
My fear is that with a math degree (which is what I want to do) is that you become a jack-of-all-trade master-of-nothing person who can't beat out any people who actually specialize with a specific major in college
Sure it is easy to feel that way when studying something so abstract and broadly applicable, but id take being a jack of all trades any day 😅, the full original “jack of all trades” quote was used as a compliment and in full is “A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one”🤓😁
I think it's usually the other way round, more so in research. Stand-alone disciplines are getting saturated, be it basic sciences or engineering; being the master-of-one isn't going to be that beneficial because all the low hanging fruits in almost every stand-alone field have already been plucked. Research is becoming increasingly interdisciplinary and, I can't even begin to stress how invaluable a maths(or even a physics) degree can be in preparing someone for this cross-disciplinary paradigm. These subjects train the mind to be comfortable with rigor, which has a huge potential to uncover counterintuitive insights in other fields that are missed by the people in those fields.
Really tough getting a math major as the primary credential scenario past the HR departments in my opinion. Nothing against them, but I think they're trained to look for very specific things. Businessmen hire HR departments to look for people who generate money, not people who seek truth in natural phenomena. Of course that's assuming businessmen actually know that math is mostly about proving things. Most of the people I know are not in any kind of scientific field and they have no idea that math is mostly about proofs. They think math majors spend most of their time doing arithmetic in their head. And they figure why hire a person like that when calculators exist?
Wow, I got a BS in math a long time ago but never ended up using it. I didn't know what careers you can get with it. I wonder if I can still use it. Math was challenging but I actually kind of miss it these days.
I’m trying to learn as much about math careers as possible. I graduated with a math degree about a year ago and have been working as a finance analyst since a bit after that, but honestly the job itself relies *very* little on math and is more about file keeping and whatnot. I know that there other probably more stimulating jobs out there that actually would utilize this math degree that I worked so hard to get, ya know.
Administrative work is the worst. I hated sitting in the same place for hours and hours after finishing work a machine could do. They even brought me a TV. In the morning it was The Price is Right. In the afternoon it was The News. After lunch it was To Make A Deal. Then Steve Harvey in Family Feud. Right before leaving it was Judge Judy. Every day. I must admit, that probably sounds like "the life" to any ordinary bum and freeloader and even though I was bring home about $1100/$1200 biweekly, I felt disgusted at my situation and instead I decided to go back to college and exercise my true potential. This was working as a front desk clerk for a Behavior Wellness facility in a Clinic a town away from where I live. As a single guy, no children, I decided to play my cards again before completely unplugging my brain and becoming a robot. I hope you find something cool soon. I'd say look into contract work and travel. Teach/tutor online and do your own thing.
@@andrescientos every job I have gotten never relies enough on math. All I want to do is math, but there's no jobs like that unless I get a PhD and become a mathematician. No way I'm going thru PhD hell for the next 4+ years.
Great video Nathan! Thanks. I think it's undersold how much government agencies rely on math backgrounds. The NIA, CIA, NOAA, NASA, DOJ, FBI, DOD, US Army Corps of Engineers all look for math degrees, and if someone has skills with handling/processing big data that demand just increases.
My brother majored in math. ended up as a school teacher. My sister majored humanities/women studies: ended up at Starbucks I couldn't stand college so I decided to major in sex tourism. we all turned out ok no social worker needed here;)
it could be worse. I was trying to help the janitor map to a printer a few years ago. After I got his name, I looked him up on linkedin. He has a bs in English from a pricey school.
You should contact your career services department at your university to recommend job fairs and resume critiques if you haven't done that already. Sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. Unfortunately the best thing for landing a job is probably still networking. I got more job offers from going to church than I got anywhere else, and I had a BS in math too. But you will probably need to decide on whether you want to pursue engineering/construction, business/accounting, or computer science/programming. All those fields will probably hire math guys for entry level grunt work positions if you show a lot of interest, but you'll need more schooling in that specific discipline to move up the ladder for sure.
I always imagined having any stem degree would make finding a solid vocation easy. I’m going back to school to take stem courses to see where it takes me. I’ve been in trades my entire adult life and it pays well. I just feel dumb when I see what other people do for a living
Dang, keep coming out with videos I want to add to my teaching list! My 8th graders are not ready to think about careers yet but this might put a bug in their to strategize and think :)
In my career, I deal with workforce development. It is so helpful to have kids learning about careers at an early age-even as young as 3rd and 4th grade we start to introduce children to the possibilities for their future. By 8th grade it is time to give kids a realistic idea of what different careers are like, especially in the day-to-day. So, not too early!
Even something like farming requires math! What is the rate of feed depletion? Estimated costs, profit, etc. I am an Accounting major and although the math in this neighborhood isn't very sophisticated I still appreciate the value that it brings.
Thanks for this, I'm still struggling with getting a job past retail since I graduated since 2019. Seeing you get something in IT is definitely worth a look. Thank you
@@nomnom112 After taking 100 courses at my college for 3 majors (music, math, honors college), I am going to apply for it once more. It's time for me to job hunt again. Thank you for asking.
I don't mean any offence, and for all I know, you probably have the best, coolest, fun, and most technical IT job where you apply your math skills. I just always find it sad when I see math majors or qualified engineers who worked really hard and had to study really complex subjects, only to become a software engineer. They usually end up doing no better than me, and oftentimes worst. Maybe because when I was little my dad told me to become a mechanical engineer, I decided I love tinkering with computers and pursued a path with the specific goal to be a software engineer. As a natural progression these days I spend most of my time on stuff such as robotic process automation, data science, machine learning - what all the cool kids seem to want to do... But I must say, I think I should have listened to my dad!
It really wasn't clear what the difference between formulaic and conceptual is, but I took it as how people view mathematics and what mathematics actually is. 90% of people think math is all formulaic, but that's like saying biology is formulaic or business management is formulaic. Every single career domain has aspects of both. Mathematics can be much more creative and innovative and "conceptual" than people realize. Mathematicians don't just know how. They know WHY. And that is important to explain to employers who see your background as anything less.
Hello. This video is exactly what I was looking for. I wanted to see how studying a subject changes me as a person, and I haven’t really seen or heard people’s answers. Thank you so much for this perspective.
What jobs can you get with a mathematics bachelors degree? I honestly don't think that you answered the question at all. I am not trying to be rude but you honestly didn't answer it.
You’re right, that is kinda the point of the video 😅. Math allows you to enter a whole slew of jobs across multiple industries and often times it’s the skills that you develop during a mathematics degree that allow for such a breadth of application in the workforce. You can do most entry level jobs that require a degree with a bachelors in math and some others just require a touch of background here or there in a given field.
@@CHALKND that’s technically incorrect you don’t “develop” those skills during a Math’s degree! As I recall you took 22 courses or something from your last video & only one of them involved R (theory of computation is pretty much useless in getting a job). So NO, one has to actually develop those skills outside the major be it coding, some other software BI/Tool, study finance/actuarial etc. Else it doesn’t work out.
Thanks for the comment! I think we agree that the skills you have listed don’t come up in a strict theoretical math degree. In my comment above, I’m talking about skills that are related directly to mathematics (problem solving, argument construction, pattern recognition, generalizability and adaptability of known information/infrastructure, accounting for edge case scenarios, etc). They may not be what we immediately think of when thinking about skills but they are still skills and they do help when applying for jobs.
@@cssensei610 plus at my school they have applied statistics with Python so at least with an applied math degree you do indeed learn coding in more than one class.
Your channel is pretty cool. Thanks for sharing. I love math as an EE major right now and am actually considering going to grad school for applied math.
Such an underrated channel. Content and quality-wise, you're in the couple hundred thousands sub channels (I thought you were before seeing the sub count)
Thank you brother! I’ve been trying to figure out how to use my BS in mathematics and BA in philosophy! It’s been pretty difficult trying to figure out what to do with them! Such how to apply them for a good job. Thanks for giving me the ideas!
math would have been a great thing to major in during wWII with all the cryptography work that was available at the time. Things changed for the worse.
My strong mathematics background (Bsc mathematics special degree , University of Ruhuna in Sri Lanka). I am a mathematics teacher. I am iteresting maths jobs then go to abroad or online. Help please.
Unfortunately, everything other than "more math" has just a tangential connection to math. In my experience, these career fields generally want actual expertise in their particular field. It was very difficult to get my first job in programming with my math degree a couple years ago, and I think now it would be even harder.
Not sure if you'll see this but I'd like to get your input on something. I'm currently a psychology major about to enter my 2nd year of college, but I LOVE math as well. I actually tested out of all of my math gen-eds when I took the SAT because I scored so well on the math portion, but I've still been taking math classes because I enjoy it so much. I would really like to work in a research job, possibly with cognitive psychology. I'm not interested in finance or business, but I know I need to have a somewhat math-heavy career in the future to be happy with my job. Do any jobs come to mind for you that are research-based but also include a lot of math( hopefully with a lot of logic & problem solving)? I think I may do a double major in applied mathematics & psychology.
I'm no expert when it comes to jobs in psychology, but more of the math-y things that people I know have done in the realm of psychology/psychology adjacent areas has been more in the areas of neuroscience/machine learning. If you are going more the applied mathematics route, some statistics and/or programming (Computer Science) courses will help further develop the tool set you would need to do more applied mathematics things in a job or research setting
is it difficult to get into software engineering with a math degree and strong coding knowledge and projects/experience? I could either go to Berkeley for applied math or UCLA for computer science+linguistics but im not sure which would be better.
I’m glad someone was paying attention! And I appreciate the feedback, mostly I say this for emphasis. 😅 Hopefully it’s clear that the exclusion of an element that is not in a set is just equal to the set itself. So {a}\{b} where “\” is the exclusion operator or the “set minus” is just equal to {a} (since b is not an element of {a} ) same as if we exclude 0 from the positive numbers that means that we take ℝ+ or whatever positive numbers you want for that matter and set minus {0} which as you’ve noted 0 is not in the set of positive numbers and thus we end up with the positive numbers that we started with. So the exclusion is not “undefined” as your comment makes it sound and we actually *can* exclude zero from the positive numbers. Does it do anything to the set of positive numbers? No it does not! But, the set operation is still defined 😁😉🤓
@@CHALKND It was just supposed to be a troll comment and you still took the time to explain how doing nothing is not the same thing as something being undefined. LOL
…I just get a big BIG no from college graduates on math major…that majored…I’m not sure but they went to RPI I went to community college for fine arts but dropped out due to financial issues and I wanted to change my major to math. Thoughts?
This may sound selfish of me but I’m trying to make big bucks. I’m not talking millions here but I’m talking 200k a year eventually if I try hard enough. I know I’ll need allot of schooling and probably a couple of degrees else where. I love math but I just don’t know if most of it will be taken up by computers or ai in the near future. I was also wondering if it’s even remotely probable that this is a big money making subject to pursue and try to grow in? Sorry if this is all cluttered I just love math but I also want to make big money and make a difference in the world somehow
I mean that's fair, money is a thing that people strive for in many different fields, and there are jobs in math related fields that do pretty well. Actuarial Science, Software Development, are well known for paying well they require a bit more skill development in statistics and computer science respectively but mathematical reasoning, I would say, is core to both.
This may have been true 40 years ago, but from my experience if you don't have a degree in Mailroom Science you can't even get a job working in the mailroom anymore
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In my experience in this is true only sometimes. It depends on the application/service/etc I was working in web server administration for a hosting/cloud computing division of a company so much of my time was spent addressing/investigating problems and configuration issues in system architecture that arose between the hosted solution and the clients interfacing architecture. Much of the time that meant looking at log files; for internally developed software there were tools to parse logs but you would often have to look at a cluster of individual files around an occurrence and interpret the parsing to figure out what might be going wrong. It was a lot of educated guess work, especially with new integrations that didn’t have well developed logs or documentation for various architectural cases.
What I take away from you video is that a person in college should major in one of those other fields, and minor in math. Math is a tool to an end, but is it removed from the pursuit itself.
I think the video title should be changed to "What jobs do you QUALIFY for as a mathematics major". A math degree teaches you the conceptual foundations of all the fields mentioned in your video, but doesn't provide you the specific skills on any of them. You can't "get" any of the jobs mentioned, at least not directly after graduation. You would either have to double major in something else during undergrad, pursue higher education in those specific fields or develop those skills on your own time. This is the real blunder of a math degree: jack of all trades, master of none.
I fully agree. Math is wonderful for personal investment and development of thought. But it's really, really bad as a financial investment unless you know you're going to be a university professor for sure. And for me math changed so much from calculus to abstract algebra that by the time I got there I knew I did not want to be a university professor. I'm glad I got a math degree and it did get my foot in the door for an accounting job, but skipping it and getting a degree in accounting or engineering at the beginning would have made more financial sense.
I love math but really stopped learning much going into high school where should I go into next to try and get back into as I'm tryna become an engineer?
So my dumbass self would just be considered that one guy that can do math in the workplace? Why am I doing this, i don't want to be an engineer, I just want to make art. Yes I know shapes, but how will that get me a living?
"Math can be considered a foundation for a lot of jobs out there today"? Huh? I've spent my life working in IT, and I can tell you you can get a six figure job as a data analyst - and you *do not need* Calculus, much less Algebra, Trigonometry. I would entitle this video "Math Propaganda for Dummies". The speaker is beholden to this propaganda because he is a) good at it, and b) he admits his parents made money tutoring kids in it. The applications he describes on the chalk board are not widely available positions in our economy, btw. In my experience, Aeronautical engineering is the one field where applied Calculus is still of use.
Understand that. Just majoring in pure mathematics with no applied discipline unfortunately really limits your career path to teaching. I tried teaching after getting my bachelors and hated it so much I took grunt jobs for a while. Eventually I landed an accounting job and decided to go back to school for that. I'll never like accounting as much as math, but at least I feel less stuck now.
In a way you are right. A lot of times that is all you will really use in an industry job outside of R&D, or software development. The goal of this video was more so to give out some ideas of types of jobs to look for if you have/are pursuing a mathematics degree. I often felt that the amount of time spent covering theory in my mathematics undergrad made me feel like there wasn't a real "job path" for math majors and that hit especially hard when I found out I wouldn't be able to afford grad school when I first applied. Through spending sometime in the corporate world and going through the job application process I found that I was just looking in the wrong places and that's what inspired this video.
My biggest fear as math student right now is ending up as a high school teacher. I realized this after graduating but the majority of students dont even pay attention to you and I feel like I would be wasting my time. I know some of you love teaching but that's the reality. I would love to be a researcher or an actuary.
I don’t believe myself super moral but being an actuary would feel pretty bad and make me guilty. Especially if you end up in a particularly bad agency.
That's exactly the same fear that I have, I don want to end up as a high school teacher as well. That's just not my passion but sometimes I just feel like I might end up there
That's why I decided to go straight to becoming a professor of math and refuse to ever become a HS teacher permanently. You're very right about that. At least at the college level you'll run into a lot more students that DO care. Especially in classes like calculus. At least that's what I've seen.
Same here. I’m math major and I’m absolutely terrified of becoming an educator.
I don't think that's a legitimate concern for anyone, unless everyone in this chain is talking about stopping at a bachelor. In which case, yes a high school teacher is a very possible outcome/trap if that's where you end your studies. A different major would be a wise choice (like physics) if you are early enough in your bachelor's.
only a math guy would do this all in chalk lmao
Lol 😂 guess my #UsernameChecksOut
How to be a math person: Step 1. Be a person. Step 2. Do math.
Bingo 👑
I've always wanted to become a professional drummer, so I majored in math and now I program phones
😂😂😂 But there is a surprising amount of math, number theory in particular, that can go into drumming. I'd recommend taking a look at the Tala (music) wikipedia page which talks about a measure system of Carnatic and Hindustani music (or Indian Classical music in general) and is often used in drumming in those styles of music to produce complex rhythms.
I have been programming phones a long time. Programming phones leads to finding quicker ways to program phones, which leads to hacking databases, or now days learning programming and API's. Now those programming and API skills are being used and standardized for software defined networking. I study math for fun and to better understand analytics.
I wanted to be a pro wrestler so I majored in math. Ended up in internal accounting. I get weekends off and I'm happy with that.
Pls how did u do this?
@@estring69
How did u go about this?
Get a statistics degree. You can make it as rigorous as a math major with electives, as I’ve done so myself. Also it helps with getting jobs.
But statistics is one of the hardest modules to take
My strong mathematics background (BA, MA) helped a great deal in my engineering career (MS, PhD) . I was able to do very interesting analyses and formulate algorithms (from trajectories to modal analysis). Many engineers come up very short in math.
I worked with a structural engineer who didn't even know trigonometry.
@s v He didn't know the law of sines or the law of cosines. Probably didn't know any of the identities either.
@s v I talked to a guy who said he had a degree in math but the only thing he could remember is "the integral of x is x squared." He made three mistakes there. First - you can't integrate x - you need x dx. Second - the integral of x dx is one half x squared. Third - he left out the constant of integration.
@s v I knew another guy who said he had an Associates Degree in math but he didn't know how to compute the area of a rectangle. I swear this is true. He said he didn't believe in memorizing things that he could just look up. SMH
I took eight mechanical engineering classes after getting my masters in math. Couldn't find work in math without teaching, so I tried engineering classes. Many in the class were weak at math and the math they used wasn't too intense in free body diagrams and stuff. I thought I'd get a mechanical technician job or something by now. I read about a new mechanical engineer that couldn't find work until he got trained in cnc machining. I guess you train until you die.
incredible summery, would recommend this to anyone who is insecure about pursuing their math career/undergrad
Thanks Danbambino! I'm glad you thought so.
I'm software engineering major, and I'm applying for math major for master's degree, because I love math so much, and it's my passion. I'm thinking what carrier opportunities I'll have
My advice if you love math but are not seriously good / excel at it in a exceptional way, is to get a BS in mathematics and then a MS in computer science / robotics / physics / software engineering.
My plan 🙏
Lol that's actually what I'm thinking of doing. B.S. in Maths & a M.S. or Ph.D. in Physics
My fear is that with a math degree (which is what I want to do) is that you become a jack-of-all-trade master-of-nothing person who can't beat out any people who actually specialize with a specific major in college
Sure it is easy to feel that way when studying something so abstract and broadly applicable, but id take being a jack of all trades any day 😅, the full original “jack of all trades” quote was used as a compliment and in full is “A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one”🤓😁
I think it's usually the other way round, more so in research. Stand-alone disciplines are getting saturated, be it basic sciences or engineering; being the master-of-one isn't going to be that beneficial because all the low hanging fruits in almost every stand-alone field have already been plucked. Research is becoming increasingly interdisciplinary and, I can't even begin to stress how invaluable a maths(or even a physics) degree can be in preparing someone for this cross-disciplinary paradigm. These subjects train the mind to be comfortable with rigor, which has a huge potential to uncover counterintuitive insights in other fields that are missed by the people in those fields.
Really tough getting a math major as the primary credential scenario past the HR departments in my opinion. Nothing against them, but I think they're trained to look for very specific things. Businessmen hire HR departments to look for people who generate money, not people who seek truth in natural phenomena. Of course that's assuming businessmen actually know that math is mostly about proving things. Most of the people I know are not in any kind of scientific field and they have no idea that math is mostly about proofs. They think math majors spend most of their time doing arithmetic in their head. And they figure why hire a person like that when calculators exist?
Well....if you dont love maths, why bother doing it. Do something applied.
"...but better than master of one"
Always finish the last part
I am in the first year at university, and I am majoring in maths. Cant deny, i just love it.
It's the first year, wait til year 3. Better learn calculus well. All four levels.
@@W81ResearcherCalculus is the easiest subject in Math lol
@@AlejandroMeloMaths I mean it's not just taking derivatives and integrals.
@@W81Researcher until complex analysis, all the results are quite trivial. Maybe we could say that Vectorial Calculus is harder, but interesting.
@@AlejandroMeloMaths ratio and root test?
Wow, I got a BS in math a long time ago but never ended up using it. I didn't know what careers you can get with it. I wonder if I can still use it. Math was challenging but I actually kind of miss it these days.
I’m trying to learn as much about math careers as possible. I graduated with a math degree about a year ago and have been working as a finance analyst since a bit after that, but honestly the job itself relies *very* little on math and is more about file keeping and whatnot. I know that there other probably more stimulating jobs out there that actually would utilize this math degree that I worked so hard to get, ya know.
Administrative work is the worst. I hated sitting in the same place for hours and hours after finishing work a machine could do. They even brought me a TV. In the morning it was The Price is Right. In the afternoon it was The News. After lunch it was To Make A Deal. Then Steve Harvey in Family Feud. Right before leaving it was Judge Judy. Every day. I must admit, that probably sounds like "the life" to any ordinary bum and freeloader and even though I was bring home about $1100/$1200 biweekly, I felt disgusted at my situation and instead I decided to go back to college and exercise my true potential. This was working as a front desk clerk for a Behavior Wellness facility in a Clinic a town away from where I live. As a single guy, no children, I decided to play my cards again before completely unplugging my brain and becoming a robot. I hope you find something cool soon. I'd say look into contract work and travel. Teach/tutor online and do your own thing.
Understandable.Same here
Bro, can I change my major in physics from math in master's? Do versity accept this transformation?
@@andrescientos every job I have gotten never relies enough on math. All I want to do is math, but there's no jobs like that unless I get a PhD and become a mathematician. No way I'm going thru PhD hell for the next 4+ years.
Great video Nathan! Thanks. I think it's undersold how much government agencies rely on math backgrounds. The NIA, CIA, NOAA, NASA, DOJ, FBI, DOD, US Army Corps of Engineers all look for math degrees, and if someone has skills with handling/processing big data that demand just increases.
My brother majored in math. ended up as a school teacher.
My sister majored humanities/women studies: ended up at Starbucks
I couldn't stand college so I decided to major in sex tourism.
we all turned out ok no social worker needed here;)
just nod and smile yall😃
it could be worse. I was trying to help the janitor map to a printer a few years ago. After I got his name, I looked him up on linkedin. He has a bs in English from a pricey school.
My favorite math major job is 'warmer'. Unemployment offices get very cold and standing in them for long will transfer quite a bit of your body heat.
I just finished my BS in Mathematics at TTU and I have had so much trouble finding a job. I am so concerned! Thanks for the advice.
Any luck?
@@christressler3857 Sadly doing IT for now at a school district. Hoping to find something in 2021.
You should contact your career services department at your university to recommend job fairs and resume critiques if you haven't done that already. Sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. Unfortunately the best thing for landing a job is probably still networking. I got more job offers from going to church than I got anywhere else, and I had a BS in math too. But you will probably need to decide on whether you want to pursue engineering/construction, business/accounting, or computer science/programming. All those fields will probably hire math guys for entry level grunt work positions if you show a lot of interest, but you'll need more schooling in that specific discipline to move up the ladder for sure.
I always imagined having any stem degree would make finding a solid vocation easy. I’m going back to school to take stem courses to see where it takes me. I’ve been in trades my entire adult life and it pays well. I just feel dumb when I see what other people do for a living
How's it going man, did you get a job?
I like math as a game but honestly there isn't anything out there for a math major without a PHd.
Dang, keep coming out with videos I want to add to my teaching list! My 8th graders are not ready to think about careers yet but this might put a bug in their to strategize and think :)
Thanks Julia! I’m glad your still finding stuff here to show the kiddos! 😁
Coming from a 25 year old, they are absolutely ready to receive career guidance. They have NO time to waste.
In my career, I deal with workforce development. It is so helpful to have kids learning about careers at an early age-even as young as 3rd and 4th grade we start to introduce children to the possibilities for their future. By 8th grade it is time to give kids a realistic idea of what different careers are like, especially in the day-to-day. So, not too early!
Even something like farming requires math! What is the rate of feed depletion? Estimated costs, profit, etc. I am an Accounting major and although the math in this neighborhood isn't very sophisticated I still appreciate the value that it brings.
Thanks for this, I'm still struggling with getting a job past retail since I graduated since 2019. Seeing you get something in IT is definitely worth a look. Thank you
I'm glad you found it helpful Ivan. It's definitely been rough with everything going on in the world. Good luck with your job search! 🙂
Have u found any interesting job ?
@@zherox434 I did. I became a data analyst via contract :)
@@CunningCaracal wow, that sounds fun. I think I will try to get something similar when I end my math degree, but idk I've just started xD.
@@zherox434 best of luck! Just have to keep applying and growing your skill set. The degree is the hardest part imo
When I was a music major, I heard about cryptanalysis, so I then got a math degree.
How did that work out?
@@nomnom112 After taking 100 courses at my college for 3 majors (music, math, honors college), I am going to apply for it once more. It's time for me to job hunt again. Thank you for asking.
Did u succeed?@@jerberus5563
@@jerberus5563i wonder how it worked out for u
I don't mean any offence, and for all I know, you probably have the best, coolest, fun, and most technical IT job where you apply your math skills. I just always find it sad when I see math majors or qualified engineers who worked really hard and had to study really complex subjects, only to become a software engineer. They usually end up doing no better than me, and oftentimes worst. Maybe because when I was little my dad told me to become a mechanical engineer, I decided I love tinkering with computers and pursued a path with the specific goal to be a software engineer. As a natural progression these days I spend most of my time on stuff such as robotic process automation, data science, machine learning - what all the cool kids seem to want to do... But I must say, I think I should have listened to my dad!
It really wasn't clear what the difference between formulaic and conceptual is, but I took it as how people view mathematics and what mathematics actually is. 90% of people think math is all formulaic, but that's like saying biology is formulaic or business management is formulaic. Every single career domain has aspects of both. Mathematics can be much more creative and innovative and "conceptual" than people realize. Mathematicians don't just know how. They know WHY. And that is important to explain to employers who see your background as anything less.
Hello. This video is exactly what I was looking for. I wanted to see how studying a subject changes me as a person, and I haven’t really seen or heard people’s answers. Thank you so much for this perspective.
What jobs can you get with a mathematics bachelors degree? I honestly don't think that you answered the question at all. I am not trying to be rude but you honestly didn't answer it.
You’re right, that is kinda the point of the video 😅. Math allows you to enter a whole slew of jobs across multiple industries and often times it’s the skills that you develop during a mathematics degree that allow for such a breadth of application in the workforce. You can do most entry level jobs that require a degree with a bachelors in math and some others just require a touch of background here or there in a given field.
@@CHALKND Can you please explain more about what entry level jobs that a mathematics degree can be useful? What are the exact jobs?
@@CHALKND that’s technically incorrect you don’t “develop” those skills during a Math’s degree! As I recall you took 22 courses or something from your last video & only one of them involved R (theory of computation is pretty much useless in getting a job). So NO, one has to actually develop those skills outside the major be it coding, some other software BI/Tool, study finance/actuarial etc. Else it doesn’t work out.
Thanks for the comment! I think we agree that the skills you have listed don’t come up in a strict theoretical math degree. In my comment above, I’m talking about skills that are related directly to mathematics (problem solving, argument construction, pattern recognition, generalizability and adaptability of known information/infrastructure, accounting for edge case scenarios, etc). They may not be what we immediately think of when thinking about skills but they are still skills and they do help when applying for jobs.
@@cssensei610 plus at my school they have applied statistics with Python so at least with an applied math degree you do indeed learn coding in more than one class.
Your channel is pretty cool. Thanks for sharing. I love math as an EE major right now and am actually considering going to grad school for applied math.
Not sure how this channel only has 4k subs.
Great content.
Such an underrated channel. Content and quality-wise, you're in the couple hundred thousands sub channels (I thought you were before seeing the sub count)
Thanks Bunndog! I'm glad you were deceived by my content and the quality of this video 😅
CHALK lol keep at it man
thank you soo much this is what i need these days 😭
No problem arwa! 😊
All good points. But, the problem is that the employers do not understand this.
This is why STEM communication is important especially in math
@@CHALKNDSTEM communication as in?
Thank you for taking the time to explain this.
Thanks for this video. It helped my a lot
Glad to hear it! 😀
my heart breaks every time you erase💔
Ur blinking is making me blink even more
😂😂😂 I get that a lot, turns out that it’s a side effect of a mild allergy I have. My eye doctors over the years have always been fascinated by it.
Lol omg u got me there 😂
Hahahaha
@@CHALKND sjogren's syndrome can cause dry eyes and dry mouth
Thank you brother! I’ve been trying to figure out how to use my BS in mathematics and BA in philosophy! It’s been pretty difficult trying to figure out what to do with them! Such how to apply them for a good job. Thanks for giving me the ideas!
Glad this helped Dee!
math would have been a great thing to major in during wWII with all the cryptography work that was available at the time. Things changed for the worse.
My strong mathematics background (Bsc mathematics special degree , University of Ruhuna in Sri Lanka). I am a mathematics teacher. I am iteresting maths jobs then go to abroad or online. Help please.
I graduated with a Math degree in December and Im near homeless.
Unfortunately, everything other than "more math" has just a tangential connection to math. In my experience, these career fields generally want actual expertise in their particular field. It was very difficult to get my first job in programming with my math degree a couple years ago, and I think now it would be even harder.
This is very helpful because I love math and am coming into high school in a few months so I want to know these things lol
Glad to hear you found it helpful!
Not sure if you'll see this but I'd like to get your input on something. I'm currently a psychology major about to enter my 2nd year of college, but I LOVE math as well. I actually tested out of all of my math gen-eds when I took the SAT because I scored so well on the math portion, but I've still been taking math classes because I enjoy it so much. I would really like to work in a research job, possibly with cognitive psychology. I'm not interested in finance or business, but I know I need to have a somewhat math-heavy career in the future to be happy with my job. Do any jobs come to mind for you that are research-based but also include a lot of math( hopefully with a lot of logic & problem solving)? I think I may do a double major in applied mathematics & psychology.
I'm no expert when it comes to jobs in psychology, but more of the math-y things that people I know have done in the realm of psychology/psychology adjacent areas has been more in the areas of neuroscience/machine learning. If you are going more the applied mathematics route, some statistics and/or programming (Computer Science) courses will help further develop the tool set you would need to do more applied mathematics things in a job or research setting
If you major in Math, then add Computer Science or Finance…if you major in Psychology…then add Philosophy or religion…much more common sense.
When saying positive, you don't need to exclude 0.
is it difficult to get into software engineering with a math degree and strong coding knowledge and projects/experience? I could either go to Berkeley for applied math or UCLA for computer science+linguistics but im not sure which would be better.
Thanks for the video; very helpful.
This was genuenly helpful !! Thanks :)
this man has a really powerful blink
* blinks in morse code *
Very helpful video :)
ZERO ISN'T POSITIVE, YOU CANT EXCLUDE IT FROM POSITIVE NUMBERS
I’m glad someone was paying attention! And I appreciate the feedback, mostly I say this for emphasis. 😅 Hopefully it’s clear that the exclusion of an element that is not in a set is just equal to the set itself. So {a}\{b} where “\” is the exclusion operator or the “set minus” is just equal to {a} (since b is not an element of {a} ) same as if we exclude 0 from the positive numbers that means that we take ℝ+ or whatever positive numbers you want for that matter and set minus {0} which as you’ve noted 0 is not in the set of positive numbers and thus we end up with the positive numbers that we started with. So the exclusion is not “undefined” as your comment makes it sound and we actually *can* exclude zero from the positive numbers. Does it do anything to the set of positive numbers? No it does not! But, the set operation is still defined 😁😉🤓
@@CHALKND It was just supposed to be a troll comment and you still took the time to explain how doing nothing is not the same thing as something being undefined. LOL
@@CHALKND I'm already subscribed, okay? :D :D :D
S’all good haha 😂
Nice video, keep it up!
Thanks!!
…I just get a big BIG no from college graduates on math major…that majored…I’m not sure but they went to RPI I went to community college for fine arts but dropped out due to financial issues and I wanted to change my major to math.
Thoughts?
This may sound selfish of me but I’m trying to make big bucks. I’m not talking millions here but I’m talking 200k a year eventually if I try hard enough. I know I’ll need allot of schooling and probably a couple of degrees else where. I love math but I just don’t know if most of it will be taken up by computers or ai in the near future. I was also wondering if it’s even remotely probable that this is a big money making subject to pursue and try to grow in? Sorry if this is all cluttered I just love math but I also want to make big money and make a difference in the world somehow
I mean that's fair, money is a thing that people strive for in many different fields, and there are jobs in math related fields that do pretty well. Actuarial Science, Software Development, are well known for paying well they require a bit more skill development in statistics and computer science respectively but mathematical reasoning, I would say, is core to both.
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This may have been true 40 years ago, but from my experience if you don't have a degree in Mailroom Science you can't even get a job working in the mailroom anymore
Yaa,, Actually I really need that video but my english is not good. Anyway I'll try to understand it, just want to tell you guys that you should be gratful 'cause english is your first language it's the world's language and you're lucky ! Thank you for the video. Love from 🇩🇿❤️.
Graduated in Applied Math last year in May, still looking for work :(
Have you tried government? They do stat I think...
You still looking?
Did u find a job yet?🙂
I'm here because I'm thinking quit the boring medicine and go to studying the lovely mathematical
aren't logs handled automatically these days? or were you working on a solution to detect patterns in those logs?
In my experience in this is true only sometimes. It depends on the application/service/etc
I was working in web server administration for a hosting/cloud computing division of a company so much of my time was spent addressing/investigating problems and configuration issues in system architecture that arose between the hosted solution and the clients interfacing architecture. Much of the time that meant looking at log files; for internally developed software there were tools to parse logs but you would often have to look at a cluster of individual files around an occurrence and interpret the parsing to figure out what might be going wrong. It was a lot of educated guess work, especially with new integrations that didn’t have well developed logs or documentation for various architectural cases.
@@CHALKND oh I see. ok, that makes sense
What I take away from you video is that a person in college should major in one of those other fields, and minor in math. Math is a tool to an end, but is it removed from the pursuit itself.
How can i pass a grade i am good in all my classes i am a 15yr old freshman but im very good math
Sameeee
2:51 You can't just draw one region covering all the others, because then you end up with inconsistent mathematics? :-)
I think the video title should be changed to "What jobs do you QUALIFY for as a mathematics major". A math degree teaches you the conceptual foundations of all the fields mentioned in your video, but doesn't provide you the specific skills on any of them. You can't "get" any of the jobs mentioned, at least not directly after graduation. You would either have to double major in something else during undergrad, pursue higher education in those specific fields or develop those skills on your own time. This is the real blunder of a math degree: jack of all trades, master of none.
I fully agree. Math is wonderful for personal investment and development of thought. But it's really, really bad as a financial investment unless you know you're going to be a university professor for sure. And for me math changed so much from calculus to abstract algebra that by the time I got there I knew I did not want to be a university professor. I'm glad I got a math degree and it did get my foot in the door for an accounting job, but skipping it and getting a degree in accounting or engineering at the beginning would have made more financial sense.
Combine it with computer science and boom you are now an Analyst
Hi guys i need your help in getting the ideas of where i can do by industrial training as a math student for 6 months
Challenge: Math Majors try to integrate into society and not a random function or polynomial (Difficulty: Impossible)
So Math now is like hot it was Philosophy in Acient Greek times .
Yeah I regret being a Math major now because it's getting woke and diverse.
I love math but really stopped learning much going into high school where should I go into next to try and get back into as I'm tryna become an engineer?
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So my dumbass self would just be considered that one guy that can do math in the workplace? Why am I doing this, i don't want to be an engineer, I just want to make art. Yes I know shapes, but how will that get me a living?
Im 30 years old should i enter into math majoring
Great video and you should do your masters in art
Aw thanks, but I’ve committed myself to getting my PhD in math first. We’ll see what comes next 😊
"Math can be considered a foundation for a lot of jobs out there today"? Huh? I've spent my life working in IT, and I can tell you you can get a six figure job as a data analyst - and you *do not need* Calculus, much less Algebra, Trigonometry. I would entitle this video "Math Propaganda for Dummies". The speaker is beholden to this propaganda because he is a) good at it, and b) he admits his parents made money tutoring kids in it. The applications he describes on the chalk board are not widely available positions in our economy, btw. In my experience, Aeronautical engineering is the one field where applied Calculus is still of use.
Can do my master's in physics after bsc in mathematics?
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(watched sometime in May 2022, then again July 27/22)
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I am a teechur after getting a masters in maths. Can’t fucking stand my job. I wish I majored in literally anything else.
That’s unfortunate. Sometimes we choose the wrong path, but there are always other routes we can take.
Understand that. Just majoring in pure mathematics with no applied discipline unfortunately really limits your career path to teaching. I tried teaching after getting my bachelors and hated it so much I took grunt jobs for a while. Eventually I landed an accounting job and decided to go back to school for that. I'll never like accounting as much as math, but at least I feel less stuck now.
Switch careers with your masters degree. It's never too late
Go to a community college. You shouldnt have to settle for teaching with a Masters
With your poor spelling and foul language I wouldn't want you teaching my kids.
The answer is YES😂
Tbh all you need is just basic maths.
In a way you are right. A lot of times that is all you will really use in an industry job outside of R&D, or software development. The goal of this video was more so to give out some ideas of types of jobs to look for if you have/are pursuing a mathematics degree.
I often felt that the amount of time spent covering theory in my mathematics undergrad made me feel like there wasn't a real "job path" for math majors and that hit especially hard when I found out I wouldn't be able to afford grad school when I first applied. Through spending sometime in the corporate world and going through the job application process I found that I was just looking in the wrong places and that's what inspired this video.
@@CHALKNDYou can get undergraduate student loans.
it looks like u r blinking very hard each time u blink, other than that nice vid
he blinked exactly 3452 times
Hmmm 🤔 I counted at least 3781. Man where is a combinatorialist when you need them smh
You are cute! Love your videos
See i have many problems living in white mans land. I know majoring in math would be the life choice i see.
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His aggressive blinking was really discomforting lol jk
Obv he can’t help that, why’d you have to go to the comments when you could’ve just clicked off the video, dude.
Completely useless word salad. Translation: "Your maths degree is completely useless, learn something entirely different."
I think you translated incorrectly