The difference is that most Titan shifters have traits that make their Titan either a good or great match. But Eren influenced all Attack Titan shifter to fight for freedom. He was literally the Attack Titan.
It's likely not "All" A.T Shifters, for sure he did towards his Father. But here's a theory; Before the Eldian Empire shattered, or fell down. Along the Ancestral A.T shifters one of them had the same ideology for "Freedom" thus lived on so long, that it eventually resonated heavily back to Eren. Considering that each candidate Shifter will gain the previous shifter's characteristics.
Since the A.T has the characteristics to seeing the future through memories, it's not going to be Eren's influence that fell down upon the long line of A.T users. It's likely that one of them already had a great sense of this characteristic that they heavily influenced the A.T T'ill that Influence reached out back to Eren
@@Otomazemanissue is that A.T shifters cannot See the future unless shown the future by future A.T shifters so Eren or a different shifter would have to send memory’s telling and showing all the past A.T shifters that fighting for freedom is what they need to do and they cannot let the Titan fall into the hands of Marley or any other people who’d use the attack Titan against paradise until Eren gets the Titan
@@jordanwarman8310it doesn’t make sense how a boy who was born after all A.T shifters basically made them give up their A.T to another (kruger)to his dad and later himself, and everything was planned by him at the end? Maybe its just Time paradox nonsense.. or was it planned by ymir to make eren founding titan to free herself by will but wanted her to be freed by someone? 😵💫
If eren had the warhammer titan he'd essentially be invincible even at the start since he wouldn't be in the titan itself. Then even in rage mode he'd probably just create a sword identical to that of the survey corp's to slash away at everything. Then if he used the ability to hide himself underground and the marley soldiers would be none the wiser, he could just infinitely charge and try stuff against berthold without really having to worry about armin probably.
But the thing is if the cord connected to the crystal be separated the titan would just evaporate like the others and he can't move to far from his crystal self
Also warhammer titan can't create bow nor gun War hammer titan's flesh isnt flexible enough to be the string , eren can create shape of the gun but cannot fire it because the bullet need propellant , and even if eren somehow pour gunpower into his arm cannon , the pressure upon gunpowder igniting and explode will be too much
but i think eren will eat the attack titan and every thing will go as he planned for attack, female, armor, jaw , beast as he eventually eat them but dont know for war hammer and founding titan
yeah this youtuber completely overlooked it. Eren inheriting the attack is FUNDAMENTAL for the progression of the story. Future Eren used the attack's power to manipulate his younger self to opt for the rumbling somewhat also, If kruger had some other titan and passed it onto grisha, then grisha would never have eaten frieda in the first place. He really should have acknowledged this and provide a solution to it, like changing grisha's backstory
Eren did not eat Annie b/c when he ripped her from the Female Titan, he saw her crying and hesitated, she then encased herself in titan armor. Also I think the Female Titan scream doesn't just make the pure titans eat her, her scream is just control. Similar to transforming, the scream needs a goal in mind, think back to when Eren made contact with the Smiling Titan. Thanks to Dina being a royal, Eren's intent was to kill her so when he screamed, that was conveyed to the other titans and they did it for him. He then screamed at Reiner and that was conveyed to the other titans as well; to attack Reiner. So when Annie screamed, her intent was to escape by having the nearby titans eat her titan and create a bunch of steam. So, I would say the Female Titan has the Founding Titan scream, its just weaker, limited, or has a smaller radius.
bro the power of the female titan's scream came from zeke because when she eats another part of a titan shifter (in this case zeke) she gained Zeke's power of controlling titans when he screams ,only its just weaker and the titans she summons are out of control thats why the started to eat her.and if you still don't believe me the female titan needs to eat a part of a shifter to get their power so when did she have a chance to eat a part of the founding titan when marley never had it
@@vonrommelarellano2300 yeah exactly, on the final episode annie also says "they had me swallowing all kinds of stuff" meaning that they made her eat a bunch or random sh*t and one of those things was probably a sample of zeke that he donated.
i mean, honestly it could just be the case too that she screamed and the titans heard: oooohhh, a shifter who is helpless and screams! let's eat her so we can become human again!
If eren inherited the jaw, then in the final battle, falco wouldn't be able to save the alliance with his flying abilites and eren would become the winner of the battle
I think eren wouldn’t have made it that far, but if he did. the reason falco turned into a bird was not because of the jaw, but because of Zeke’s spinal fluid so maybe Falco would’ve still been in his bird form just, not without the massive Jaw.
I think eren wouldn’t have made it that far, but if he did. the reason falco turned into a bird was not because of the jaw, but because of Zeke’s spinal fluid so maybe Falco would’ve still been in his bird form just, not without the massive Jaw.
They shouldve let Eren utilize the war hammer titan power more, it wouldve been cool if he wouldve put armor around his whole body while he fought marley on paradise
Eren is both an uncreative individual (which severely limits WHT potential compared to, say, Armin or Hange having it) and is unexperienced with it, it only makes sense he'd handle its power poorly. Which kind of seamlessly leads to the plot point of Marley exploiting it.
Bro this is what I’m saying but instead for Eren but for Reiner. In S3 he literally uses more “ice” hardening to climb the wall. It would’ve been so epic if he did that in the battle at Season 4 so Eren couldn’t use his Harding gloves to hurt Reiner so he had a chance.
A thing to consider is that if eren had cart titan, there is a chance that he would train and try to master odm gear as now titan shifting in combat would be almost useless unless regeneration or support
Support from a cart titan is only helpful. This allows paradis to go on long distance missions and the cart could transform hundreds of times unless eren faced damages which he couldnt regenerate fast. We saw peick use the cart to its vast potential and we know eren mastered the attack quickly, so possibly it would be for the cart too.
The attack titan never reached marley because of its intention and the owl only had access to the attack. Lets just say marley captured the attack but their colassal got stolen and got given to grisha, that would mean in any case grisha wont be able to capture the founder and if we would he might accidently kill the entire reiss family. So reiner will be the only one to break and breach the walls but the founder is not in paradis hands anyways
@@ASTR000OXXXArmored can also break through both walls and you're correct. It's completely impractical how Grisha could even beat Frieda with the colossal, since it can't even shift in an enclosed space like the crystal cavern without completely destroying it. Therefore, it is basically impossible for eren to obtain colossal and founder at the same time.
tbh assuming that everything went the same up to the first wall breach except from the fact Kruger had the colossal. The Armor probs would have had to bust both down so Reiner and Berthold and Annie would have infiltrated the military then busted open maria and so Eren probs would discover his power at the same time but just this time in the battle of maria . but this also means that also Annie wouldn't hunt Eren down on the first mission outside the walls and if i go on i may as swell wright a book on the topic its so complicated .
@@TheWanderstartechnically reiner couldnt break the walls he bashed right through the gate which wasnt reinforced with the wall titans it was just a large wooden gate with maybe some large metal bolts and holds but not like the wall
@@filthycasual927You're serious? Both gates, inner and outer, aren't Titan hardening, only the Walls themselves are. It's the plain human stonework, easy for Reiner to ram through. Not only that, the hole he made in Shiganshina's inner gate is larger than the gate itself, since, well, ArT is much bigger than the gate meaning he rammed through a gatehouse and part of the Wall too.
12:32 probably more than half since Eren ain't holding back like Bertholdt, though he could "possibly" control the colossal since Bertholdt could control it right off the bat but the circumstance is different Bertholdt knew he had the titan so he could mentally prepare himself while Eren didn't and both have different personalities.
@@ASTR000OXXX let's say of the collosal was with Eren then there would have been less damage and casualties. Probably a chance that Marley wouldn't have attacked without the collosal
I Really wish that Isayama would consider making a special manga chapter for either Erwin or Eren Kruger or the daughters of Ymir, showing their past, just like he did with Levi before joining the survey corps. maybe showing how Erwin's contributions earned him the merit to become the commander of the survey corps, how Eren Kruger became the attack titan shifter and joined Marley officers, how Maria, Rose and Shina ruled Eldia after king fritz died and which titan powers did each of them get.
If you think hypothetically, it’s impossible to get a different Titan because Grisha was always made for attack Titan. PS: for those who don’t understand my comment. A young grisha inherited Eren Krugers Attack Titan, eren in s4 ( founding power ) manipulates time to always keep it like that. Grisha is supposed to kill frieda and eat her to get the founding, then eren gets transformed into a pure Titan to eat Grisha to achieve his powers. eren is trying to make it that way forever. So the timeline wouldn’t change.
yeah not only that but past and future events were affected because of the attack titans ability to look into the future. we would have a fundamentally different story
Moreso Kruger, as it always started from his family attempting to rebel, that had him noticed by the previous holder after he lost his parents to Marley. Grisha was just a recreation of Kruger as a child to some degree
It would technically be impossible for Eren to become any other titan than Attack Titan. Attack Titan is the only titan that can manipulate the future and the past, so if Eren was any other titan; for example, The Armored Titan, he wouldn't have had the ability to manipulate Grisha into killing the founding titan and most of the Reiss family, because Armored Titan, like any other Titans except The Attack Titan, can't manipulate neither the past or the future. That means that the rumbling would never have happened and the Reiss family would still be alive, and on top of that, since Grisha didn't kill the Reiss family in this case, Eren would never have inherited any titan in the first place, because Eren wouldn't have had eaten Grisha. That means that Eren NEEDS to be Attack Titan in order to inherit the power, otherwise, he wouldn't even be a titan in the first place. He would just be a normal child of a Titan (Grisha).
There is a big flaw with the female titans part, the only reason Annie can scream and attract titans is because the female titans main power is that it can eat a small part of the other titan shifters bodies and inherit a slight portion of their power. For example Annie can only scream because she ate a bit of zekes of finger,and can summon any titan with the beast titans power(it would eat her because she can’t inherit the full power) another example is her hardening, she can only harden because she ate a bit of reiners titan, so when in the video it said with Erens scream, he’s wrong because erne hasn’t inherited any part of the beast titans power yet, therefore he’s wrong
I disagree a bit on that one with the Jaws. No way the story ends the same. They basically won because Flaco could fly with his Jaws and ALSO had Annie in that final battle on their side. I really doubt they could win with Falco as the Attack titan since i think this one has a smaller chance of being able to fly despite the Beast DNA due to his sheer size.
If Eren had the beast and it resembled a wolf, your forgetting something, wolfs have claws and teeth which means Eren would probably get sharp claws and teeth and if he had the same strength as his normal attack titan, he would be stronger and he could probably use hardening on the claws and teeth because those are like the main things on his titan.
colossal isnt possible because he is too op cart wouldnt be possible because she is too weak any other except founding could be possible eren will just eat them eventually
If Eren would inherit the Female Titan, he wouldnt have the same screma ability as Annie. The realnpower of the female titan is inheriting ither traits from the other titams via consumption. Meaning, if Eren were to consume something with armor, such as a clam, his Titan form would have hardening, just like Annie. The same goes for Annie's scream, making Eren have to eat an animal or something to inherit the beast titan's scream. Thank you for your time.
I don't think Eren would die so early on with the Female Form titan. Before the scream he already took out most of the titans in the area, leaving very few to swarm him - the reason there was so many in the forest in the original was because the scouts were avoiding fighting the titans to save on fuel/blades.
Yes, he would. The Titans kept flooding the entire span of e5-e13, and at least visually Annie called Titans from further radius than Trost's. The moment he roars, everything in the city and some beyond sill sprint towards him.
the female titan only ONLY has this ability and hardening because of the adaptabillyti that is her special power with it if he eats a part of one of the 9 titan shifters (like the leg) he will gain another power based on the main special power of the other shifter she earned the ability of the roar bc she ate a part of beast titan which was zeke
@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м actually, your wrong, it was confirmed by the creator of the manga that, no both hardening and the titan call were gained from other titans, Marley ran these experiments to strengthen their warriors, like how the Marleyan jaw titans got the masks, they were all due to Marley’s science.
@@ShilliamC "you're"* And then, do tell how Marley would get their hands on the pieces of the Founding Titan, which was never in their possession, because that's the only one that naturally has the ability to control pure Titans. And if you are about to go into "BUT BEAZT TUTAN LULZ" save your breath, you understood nothing of that part, much like every other dumbass that thinks she ate a piece of Zeke and suddenly gained it.
This entire video is good, i will admit however you've got a huuuuge point that you missed out How does grisha inherit the titans? If he / eren does not have attack titan, how would eren manipulate him into killing the reiss family? Marleyans now have the ability to see into the future, considering that the events would play out the same, zeke snitching on grisha, etc, marley would have a royal blooded titan and a attack titan. This means that they could see the future. For the collosal what if, how would the attack titan and armored titan attack shiganshina? That would be impossible. Eren's main goal in this manga was that he'd kill every titan. Now that shinganshina is not invaded, he'd just be a normal dude. I don't think grisha would even inherit his powers due to kruger being the supposed collosal titan would just not work out, same with every other what if. For every what if scenario, kruger would have a huge role with his attack titan. Without attack titan there's no inheriting thus the entire plot is just marley attacking paradis and them winning.
The Female Titan would not look "female" if Eren had it. The Female Titan is otherwise known as "The Mimic Titan" because it can eat other Titan shifters' parts and mimic their abilities.
If Eren inherited the colossal titan's powers then Berthold wouldn't have been able to brake through the wall and so no titans will ever brake in shiganshina district or wall maria since the armored titan ain't strong enough to brake all those walls.
If, Eren inherited the other titan then, the eren story didn't even existed because of the future thing of Attack titan. Founding + attack titan gave him the power of future and past, he just didn't take birth with a royal blood which makes him complete and situation becomes more worse.
Eren could have just eat the titans like female, armor, jaw, beast, before historia became queen founding and attack being changed wouldn't affect anything colossal is too op cart is too weak war hammer is revealed too late
@@bhabinbashyal If, you have seen the ending of Aot, you will understand that Eren had seen many possibilities and the results were become worser than it's previous one and that's why he can't inherit different titans, it's a fate, he can't change still he tried to take the Jaw titan in Marley but, the things end up differently. Cart titan is not weak, it's one of the flexible one, the titan form can be hold for more than 6 months, it has soo many advantages during battles and in the Finale of Aot, We can see it's quicker Regenerative abilities.
1.erens female titan would literally have no powers just a titan, the female titans powers are to mimic other powers by eating some of them, its explained in season 4. 2. warhammer titan can use its powers without being in titan form, so i think he would win over Reiner and Berthold i warrior episode. 3. eren would not be a wolf as beast titan, a bird would fit way better. 4. zeke with attack titan would not be able to influence eren, since he can only influence other attack titan users with the future sight. 6. if eren had colossal titan, the series wouldn't happen, since walls wouldn't get destroyed in the first episode...
i swear this guy is legit dumb bro did not even bother researching a minute if eren had the war hammer he wouldn't 1v1 female armored will jump in cause they'll be informed of how dangerous the warhammer is since it isn't with the tybur family and also bertoldt will watch them just incase Eren does win that applies to eren having the armoured as well
Bro if eran had the power of armered how did rinar ( attack titan ) brock through the inner wall of siganchina. If he had the colossal titan how did barthold ( brock the outer wall of siganchina
i think annies titan looks female because of annie, if it was someone else it would look different also its more of a diamond or crystal titan and at first i thought eren would get all titan powers and all their 13 years added to himself which would mean he would live until 117
@@Unknowno9914 because maybe they think a male appearance seems strong and intimidating or to just be like "titan looks like a guy but the person is a cute girl"
dont forget that pieck using the cart titan once destroyed one of the old armored titans by biting them and transforming whenever her titan would die. basically she killed a prehistoric armored titan so why wouldnt eren be able to beat armored?
Good video, but if eren had the female titan, the story would be virtually the same. The female titan's actual power is that she can inherit other titans power by drinking their spinal fluid. Annie could only harden because she drank reiners spinal fluid and the scream only worked because she had drank some of zeke's spinal fluid. This means that eren would not have had those powers, he would have just been a tall titan which can fight very well, similar to the attack titan. So yeah no major change i reckon
If Eren had the colossal titan, Then Shiganshina would not be breached, which means Eren never got eaten by that one Eldian restorationist titan, because Eren would obviously still join the army, Trost and Shiganshina would still be safe. Which means, Eren either just dies via the curse of Ymir, He gets eaten similar to to episode 7 and transforms in the 56th expedition outside the walls, Blowing up only scouts and the forest, which means his trial might just be the same, which means Eren fills in for armin as now Armin eats Attack titan bertholdt, It goes a bit easier with his fight with lara tybur, So Eren now has the 3 most powerful shifters plus hardening, The rumbling won't end as Armin can't blow him up, which means, Paradis supreme, which means, FREEDOMMMMMMMM
If Eren were to inherit the Beast Titan, he would most likely be depicted as a wolf due to his personality traits often associated with loyalty, protectiveness, and a strong sense of pack mentality, which align well with the wolf's symbolism in many cultures.
no just think it was impossible like see attack titan can travel or see future or past thus eren controlled smiling titan to attack his mom instead of the colossal guy (bertherdolt), thus the young eren doesnt had the hatred among titans. Attack Titan was the right option but yeah if he got only the succession of the founding with royal blood in him it would make him unstoppable
Not to be a hater, this video is amazing, but I have seen a few plot holes in some of these changes. The first is if eren inherited the armored titan, the armored titan was a big role in breaking down some of the walls in season 1, same can be said for the colossal titan so without this transformation the titans entering the district may have never happened
Eren I think would be strongest with the armored titan I think if he ate zeke he would be able to be fast and have the speed of the atack titan that he first entreated.
If eren had the collosal titan, the wall of shiganshina wouldnt even break unless if reiner finds a way to break it. So eren would probably take a longer time to activate it
Mr Yeager, I have a theory on why Ymir and Eren’s founding titans are bigger then the other founders. So basically, I think it’s because Ymir and Eren were the only founders who have interacted with the hallucigenia, making them much bigger than the other founders.
0:40 this doesn’t work because if he had the armoured there would be no hole for them originally same with bertold also no way you said the attack titan doesn’t have the past/ future sight thing
8:45 remember how peick did against the ancient war hammer He could probably do something like that with the godlike endurance. Cart titan is really slept on but in the final fight it was kind of perfect
Nah if Eren did inherit the Armoured Titan in the original Reiner busted the gates of wall Maria and if Eren inherited the Armoured titan his mother wouldn't have been eaten or there is another possibility of the colossal titan soloing the breaching mission of The paradis island and busting the gates aswell but idk...
One thing you forgot on collosal titan his first transformation wouldn't happen as marley needed the collosal titan to destroy the wall but they don't have that so they can't destroy the wall
Missed out on one point, eren wouldn't be able to transfer his memories to Grisha so he could eat the Founder, he'd just be an ordinary titan shifter without being a vessel for the Founder
Im pretty sure you forgot to mention this part... If Eren is supposed to get the cart titan then that means that Grisha (Eren's Father) would be the previous user which will make the fight between Grisha and the founder harder asGrisha will most probably lose and eren will not become a titan shifter which basically prevents the rumbling to happen in the firstplace... and Eren actually influences Grisha why hee's even battling w/ the founder and since eren does not have the attack titan who can alter and influence the memories of others Grisha wont even fight at all... Sorry if this is too much and for the beast titan.... In my opinion Eren would most likley have features of a bird honestly as he long for freedom yk...
if he got a different titan then the story would have a different ending due to the fact that eren can not send his younger self memories to follow his path which would not lead to the events of the rumbling
one major thing about the colossal titan, if eren had it, bertholdt, reiner and annie couldn't break the wall at the start and the story couldn't proceed without completely rewriting it.
nice vid bud if eren got the beast titan the past and future machanic of sieg would be wasted because he could influence the other attacks before him wich wasnt his father
That proposes and interesting theory if Eren got eaten as the female titan, as the pure titan that ate him would gain the powers and turn back human, and if that person had any memory and after their panic and rage towards the “island devils” subsided they could possibly tell them about marley and all that, leading to the scouts finding out about this information much earlier
If eren had the armored titan and assumin reiner had the attack titan, honestly that would be outrageous watching the invasion of trost and the titan assigned to attack the city just gets clapped by a cannon or killed at the nape, or just doesn't even get through, they'd probably never invade since they would have no jaw titan and the attack titan wouldn't be that great at mowing down anything.
I think you should've split each titan version of Eren into multiple alternate versions of that titan ability, like for example what if Eren had the beast titan powers and was a royal family descendant?
10:18 wdym certain people? He'd only be able to send memories back to previous Attack Titan users. Which in this scenario are just the people who were originally Beast users in canon. He wouldn't be able to talk to Grisha for example as he is a Beast Titan user.
At 10:26 Zeke can't use the rumbling cause he's got Royal blood and the founding Titan so it would be impossible for the rumbling to happen due to the first kings will
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Which titan power would make Eren the strongest?🔥
colossal
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I don’t know
Founding
Female
The difference is that most Titan shifters have traits that make their Titan either a good or great match. But Eren influenced all Attack Titan shifter to fight for freedom. He was literally the Attack Titan.
It's likely not "All" A.T Shifters, for sure he did towards his Father. But here's a theory;
Before the Eldian Empire shattered, or fell down. Along the Ancestral A.T shifters one of them had the same ideology for "Freedom" thus lived on so long, that it eventually resonated heavily back to Eren. Considering that each candidate Shifter will gain the previous shifter's characteristics.
Since the A.T has the characteristics to seeing the future through memories, it's not going to be Eren's influence that fell down upon the long line of A.T users. It's likely that one of them already had a great sense of this characteristic that they heavily influenced the A.T T'ill that Influence reached out back to Eren
@@Otomazemanissue is that A.T shifters cannot See the future unless shown the future by future A.T shifters so Eren or a different shifter would have to send memory’s telling and showing all the past A.T shifters that fighting for freedom is what they need to do and they cannot let the Titan fall into the hands of Marley or any other people who’d use the attack Titan against paradise until Eren gets the Titan
@@jordanwarman8310it doesn’t make sense how a boy who was born after all A.T shifters basically made them give up their A.T to another (kruger)to his dad and later himself, and everything was planned by him at the end? Maybe its just Time paradox nonsense.. or was it planned by ymir to make eren founding titan to free herself by will but wanted her to be freed by someone? 😵💫
he was actually the USA titan fighting for freedom and discriminating against other races.
If Eren inherited the Beast Titan, then he'd be a bird.
TATAKAW!
He already is a bird
If Jean inherited The beast Titan, we Would already know
Yo FALCO REFERENCE
Eren. = bird
Jean = Horse
The Legendary caveman that Didn't can back with the milk = Dinosaur
If eren had the warhammer titan he'd essentially be invincible even at the start since he wouldn't be in the titan itself. Then even in rage mode he'd probably just create a sword identical to that of the survey corp's to slash away at everything. Then if he used the ability to hide himself underground and the marley soldiers would be none the wiser, he could just infinitely charge and try stuff against berthold without really having to worry about armin probably.
Sure a 60 meters tall titan sureee
But the thing is if the cord connected to the crystal be separated the titan would just evaporate like the others and he can't move to far from his crystal self
Also warhammer titan can't create bow nor gun
War hammer titan's flesh isnt flexible enough to be the string , eren can create shape of the gun but cannot fire it because the bullet need propellant , and even if eren somehow pour gunpower into his arm cannon , the pressure upon gunpowder igniting and explode will be too much
if he inherits any other titan he will not be able to influence the future and the past, rumbling may still occur but not on Eren's lead
but i think eren will eat the attack titan and every thing will go as he planned for attack, female, armor, jaw , beast as he eventually eat them
but dont know for war hammer and founding titan
yeah this youtuber completely overlooked it. Eren inheriting the attack is FUNDAMENTAL for the progression of the story. Future Eren used the attack's power to manipulate his younger self to opt for the rumbling somewhat also, If kruger had some other titan and passed it onto grisha, then grisha would never have eaten frieda in the first place. He really should have acknowledged this and provide a solution to it, like changing grisha's backstory
Eren did not eat Annie b/c when he ripped her from the Female Titan, he saw her crying and hesitated, she then encased herself in titan armor.
Also I think the Female Titan scream doesn't just make the pure titans eat her, her scream is just control.
Similar to transforming, the scream needs a goal in mind, think back to when Eren made contact with the Smiling Titan. Thanks to Dina being a royal, Eren's intent was to kill her so when he screamed, that was conveyed to the other titans and they did it for him.
He then screamed at Reiner and that was conveyed to the other titans as well; to attack Reiner. So when Annie screamed, her intent was to escape by having the nearby titans eat her titan and create a bunch of steam.
So, I would say the Female Titan has the Founding Titan scream, its just weaker, limited, or has a smaller radius.
bro the power of the female titan's scream came from zeke because when she eats another part of a titan shifter (in this case zeke) she gained Zeke's power of controlling titans when he screams ,only its just weaker and the titans she summons are out of control thats why the started to eat her.and if you still don't believe me the female titan needs to eat a part of a shifter to get their power so when did she have a chance to eat a part of the founding titan when marley never had it
@@vonrommelarellano2300 yeah exactly, on the final episode annie also says "they had me swallowing all kinds of stuff" meaning that they made her eat a bunch or random sh*t and one of those things was probably a sample of zeke that he donated.
i mean, honestly it could just be the case too that she screamed and the titans heard: oooohhh, a shifter who is helpless and screams! let's eat her so we can become human again!
Only Zeke can control pure titans because of his royal blood
If eren inherited the jaw, then in the final battle, falco wouldn't be able to save the alliance with his flying abilites and eren would become the winner of the battle
He also wouldnt see future memories.
I don't think eren would be able to make it this far if he did
I think eren wouldn’t have made it that far, but if he did. the reason falco turned into a bird was not because of the jaw, but because of Zeke’s spinal fluid so maybe Falco would’ve still been in his bird form just, not without the massive Jaw.
I think eren wouldn’t have made it that far, but if he did. the reason falco turned into a bird was not because of the jaw, but because of Zeke’s spinal fluid so maybe Falco would’ve still been in his bird form just, not without the massive Jaw.
@operatorraven7596 in that timeline porco was the attack titan and there's no way a 15 meter titan would be able to fly
That just defies physic logics
They shouldve let Eren utilize the war hammer titan power more, it wouldve been cool if he wouldve put armor around his whole body while he fought marley on paradise
They didn’t, because it’s to give Marley a chance at fighting back.
Eren is both an uncreative individual (which severely limits WHT potential compared to, say, Armin or Hange having it) and is unexperienced with it, it only makes sense he'd handle its power poorly.
Which kind of seamlessly leads to the plot point of Marley exploiting it.
Bro this is what I’m saying but instead for Eren but for Reiner. In S3 he literally uses more “ice” hardening to climb the wall. It would’ve been so epic if he did that in the battle at Season 4 so Eren couldn’t use his Harding gloves to hurt Reiner so he had a chance.
A thing to consider is that if eren had cart titan, there is a chance that he would train and try to master odm gear as now titan shifting in combat would be almost useless unless regeneration or support
Support from a cart titan is only helpful. This allows paradis to go on long distance missions and the cart could transform hundreds of times unless eren faced damages which he couldnt regenerate fast. We saw peick use the cart to its vast potential and we know eren mastered the attack quickly, so possibly it would be for the cart too.
The cart is pretty powerful, as shown in the final battle
Also the only reason he did the rumbling and attack on Marley was because he had the attack titan
Ehh but remember pieck kinda went crazy, if she was beaten once, she could go again 10 times for every time she lost
If he inherited the colossal titan, then wouldn't that mean Berthold would get the Attack titan? Making it so they never invade shiganshina?
The attack titan never reached marley because of its intention and the owl only had access to the attack. Lets just say marley captured the attack but their colassal got stolen and got given to grisha, that would mean in any case grisha wont be able to capture the founder and if we would he might accidently kill the entire reiss family. So reiner will be the only one to break and breach the walls but the founder is not in paradis hands anyways
@@ASTR000OXXXArmored can also break through both walls and you're correct. It's completely impractical how Grisha could even beat Frieda with the colossal, since it can't even shift in an enclosed space like the crystal cavern without completely destroying it. Therefore, it is basically impossible for eren to obtain colossal and founder at the same time.
tbh assuming that everything went the same up to the first wall breach except from the fact Kruger had the colossal. The Armor probs would have had to bust both down so Reiner and Berthold and Annie would have infiltrated the military then busted open maria and so Eren probs would discover his power at the same time but just this time in the battle of maria . but this also means that also Annie wouldn't hunt Eren down on the first mission outside the walls and if i go on i may as swell wright a book on the topic its so complicated .
@@TheWanderstartechnically reiner couldnt break the walls he bashed right through the gate which wasnt reinforced with the wall titans it was just a large wooden gate with maybe some large metal bolts and holds but not like the wall
@@filthycasual927You're serious?
Both gates, inner and outer, aren't Titan hardening, only the Walls themselves are.
It's the plain human stonework, easy for Reiner to ram through.
Not only that, the hole he made in Shiganshina's inner gate is larger than the gate itself, since, well, ArT is much bigger than the gate meaning he rammed through a gatehouse and part of the Wall too.
If eren started with war hammer, I would feel bad for the season 1 titans
All it takes is for a titan to step on the wire and his titan gone
@@ASTR000OXXX he can still stay in crystal in the body
@@ASTR000OXXX he doesn’t have to be in crystallised body underground, and titans aren’t that smart
He can move himself to any part of his body.
He can move himself to any part of his body.
12:32 probably more than half since Eren ain't holding back like Bertholdt, though he could "possibly" control the colossal since Bertholdt could control it right off the bat but the circumstance is different Bertholdt knew he had the titan so he could mentally prepare himself while Eren didn't and both have different personalities.
armin was also able to control it. Not forgetting to mention armin used its transformation at full power and he was still able to control it.
If Eren had the power of the collosal or armoured titan it's not impossible that the gate break at shiganshina would occur
As their last resort, marley does have some access to explosives and possibly could use the cart to breach the walls and evacuating easily
@@ASTR000OXXX at that time I'm pretty sure the technology wasn't that advance for Marley aswell and the cart titan at that time wasn't pieck either
@@Pr1smY all marleyian shifters got their powers at the same time. Cart, female, colassal, jaw and armored.
@@Pr1smY marley did have firepower at the time and in any case possibly access to tnt
@@ASTR000OXXX let's say of the collosal was with Eren then there would have been less damage and casualties. Probably a chance that Marley wouldn't have attacked without the collosal
I Really wish that Isayama would consider making a special manga chapter for either Erwin or Eren Kruger or the daughters of Ymir, showing their past, just like he did with Levi before joining the survey corps.
maybe showing how Erwin's contributions earned him the merit to become the commander of the survey corps, how Eren Kruger became the attack titan shifter and joined Marley officers, how Maria, Rose and Shina ruled Eldia after king fritz died and which titan powers did each of them get.
If you think hypothetically, it’s impossible to get a different Titan because Grisha was always made for attack Titan.
PS: for those who don’t understand my comment. A young grisha inherited Eren Krugers Attack Titan, eren in s4 ( founding power ) manipulates time to always keep it like that. Grisha is supposed to kill frieda and eat her to get the founding, then eren gets transformed into a pure Titan to eat Grisha to achieve his powers. eren is trying to make it that way forever. So the timeline wouldn’t change.
yeah not only that but past and future events were affected because of the attack titans ability to look into the future. we would have a fundamentally different story
@@Suto_Ko Hey , where was it mentioned that grisha injected "Attack titan" serum into an unborn Eren? I cant really remember this.
@@ashh472yeah this is wrong info,grisha injected eren after the incident when his mother was eaten by a titan
@@Suto_Ko I used an AI generated checker and it said that this is most likely made by AI.
Moreso Kruger, as it always started from his family attempting to rebel, that had him noticed by the previous holder after he lost his parents to Marley.
Grisha was just a recreation of Kruger as a child to some degree
It would technically be impossible for Eren to become any other titan than Attack Titan. Attack Titan is the only titan that can manipulate the future and the past, so if Eren was any other titan; for example, The Armored Titan, he wouldn't have had the ability to manipulate Grisha into killing the founding titan and most of the Reiss family, because Armored Titan, like any other Titans except The Attack Titan, can't manipulate neither the past or the future. That means that the rumbling would never have happened and the Reiss family would still be alive, and on top of that, since Grisha didn't kill the Reiss family in this case, Eren would never have inherited any titan in the first place, because Eren wouldn't have had eaten Grisha. That means that Eren NEEDS to be Attack Titan in order to inherit the power, otherwise, he wouldn't even be a titan in the first place. He would just be a normal child of a Titan (Grisha).
There is a big flaw with the female titans part, the only reason Annie can scream and attract titans is because the female titans main power is that it can eat a small part of the other titan shifters bodies and inherit a slight portion of their power. For example Annie can only scream because she ate a bit of zekes of finger,and can summon any titan with the beast titans power(it would eat her because she can’t inherit the full power) another example is her hardening, she can only harden because she ate a bit of reiners titan, so when in the video it said with Erens scream, he’s wrong because erne hasn’t inherited any part of the beast titans power yet, therefore he’s wrong
I disagree a bit on that one with the Jaws. No way the story ends the same. They basically won because Flaco could fly with his Jaws and ALSO had Annie in that final battle on their side. I really doubt they could win with Falco as the Attack titan since i think this one has a smaller chance of being able to fly despite the Beast DNA due to his sheer size.
and colossal cuz the invasion by bertholht wouldnt have occured
If Eren had the beast and it resembled a wolf, your forgetting something, wolfs have claws and teeth which means Eren would probably get sharp claws and teeth and if he had the same strength as his normal attack titan, he would be stronger and he could probably use hardening on the claws and teeth because those are like the main things on his titan.
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Great video. Well done. 👍
Then our masterpiece I think wouldn't have ended😢
But it won't be masterpiece anymore.
the famele titan : screams
me : THE TITANS BE SIMPING
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Founding Titan and Pure Titan real quiet after this dropped
He already has the founding titan. What would happen if he had the founding titan: just watch the show lol, that would happen
3:51 bro sounded like Kermit for a literal second
If Eren got the Collosal Titan, then the wall might've not been broken at all because it was the Collosal that did it in the first place.
Remember, the Armored Titan also broke one of the gates, so it's possible he just breaks both of them in that scenario.
@@vervetwrydavigy3006 I don't know if he would be able to break the wall though.
@@mothinamothYes Reiner cannot break the walls because those walls are made of colossal Titans
@@mothinamothhes name is literally the armored titan no hard time for him to break the walls
@@Silverstonedynamic that's true exept that reiner also broke through the interior of wall maria
Thank you for making this ❤
12:08
Hey, if Eren got the colossal titan
Than bertholdt got the attack titan right
So the first episode of aot won't be really destructive
I guess
colossal isnt possible because he is too op
cart wouldnt be possible because she is too weak
any other except founding could be possible eren will just eat them eventually
COuldn't the armored just bash both gates of the town?
If Eren would inherit the Female Titan, he wouldnt have the same screma ability as Annie. The realnpower of the female titan is inheriting ither traits from the other titams via consumption. Meaning, if Eren were to consume something with armor, such as a clam, his Titan form would have hardening, just like Annie. The same goes for Annie's scream, making Eren have to eat an animal or something to inherit the beast titan's scream.
Thank you for your time.
Give me more of these type theories ❤
Out of all of the titans Eren could inherit aside from the attack titan, He really looks good as the Armored and the Warhammer titans
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Really good video
bro you need a video for each, the story and powers are too complex to find the most accurate scenario for 8 different combos in 13 minutes
Nice ❤❤❤❤
I don't think Eren would die so early on with the Female Form titan. Before the scream he already took out most of the titans in the area, leaving very few to swarm him - the reason there was so many in the forest in the original was because the scouts were avoiding fighting the titans to save on fuel/blades.
Yes, he would.
The Titans kept flooding the entire span of e5-e13, and at least visually Annie called Titans from further radius than Trost's.
The moment he roars, everything in the city and some beyond sill sprint towards him.
the female titan only ONLY has this ability and hardening because of the adaptabillyti that is her special power with it if he eats a part of one of the 9 titan shifters (like the leg) he will gain another power based on the main special power of the other shifter she earned the ability of the roar bc she ate a part of beast titan which was zeke
@@Fuedaseh Wrong. Her only narural power is precisely Titan call, eating a piece of BT would not grant her that.
Use some common sense Jesus.
@@ВладиславШаклеин-ч7м actually, your wrong, it was confirmed by the creator of the manga that, no both hardening and the titan call were gained from other titans, Marley ran these experiments to strengthen their warriors, like how the Marleyan jaw titans got the masks, they were all due to Marley’s science.
@@ShilliamC "you're"*
And then, do tell how Marley would get their hands on the pieces of the Founding Titan, which was never in their possession, because that's the only one that naturally has the ability to control pure Titans.
And if you are about to go into "BUT BEAZT TUTAN LULZ" save your breath, you understood nothing of that part, much like every other dumbass that thinks she ate a piece of Zeke and suddenly gained it.
This entire video is good, i will admit however you've got a huuuuge point that you missed out
How does grisha inherit the titans?
If he / eren does not have attack titan, how would eren manipulate him into killing the reiss family?
Marleyans now have the ability to see into the future, considering that the events would play out the same, zeke snitching on grisha, etc, marley would have a royal blooded titan and a attack titan. This means that they could see the future.
For the collosal what if, how would the attack titan and armored titan attack shiganshina? That would be impossible. Eren's main goal in this manga was that he'd kill every titan. Now that shinganshina is not invaded, he'd just be a normal dude. I don't think grisha would even inherit his powers due to kruger being the supposed collosal titan would just not work out, same with every other what if.
For every what if scenario, kruger would have a huge role with his attack titan. Without attack titan there's no inheriting thus the entire plot is just marley attacking paradis and them winning.
The Female Titan would not look "female" if Eren had it.
The Female Titan is otherwise known as "The Mimic Titan" because it can eat other Titan shifters' parts and mimic their abilities.
no it doesn't
If Eren inherited the colossal titan's powers then Berthold wouldn't have been able to brake through the wall and so no titans will ever brake in shiganshina district or wall maria since the armored titan ain't strong enough to brake all those walls.
Mhm you’re right!
When I first saw the thumbnail and seeing Eren if he was a Beast Titan I'm ngl seeing that is just absolute nightmare fuel 💀 (my opinion)
His beast titan is a bunny 💀💀☠☠
@@TheComfyCouch310 more like a mile or a donkey 🫏
@@IanLeonBonilla-lr8yc 👀💀😂🤣🤪😄🤭
@@TheComfyCouch310 Ur obviously a kid lol
Great video,but one small mistake:pierk was with the beast titan in season 3 part 2 to help
If, Eren inherited the other titan then, the eren story didn't even existed because of the future thing of Attack titan. Founding + attack titan gave him the power of future and past, he just didn't take birth with a royal blood which makes him complete and situation becomes more worse.
Eren could have just eat the titans like female, armor, jaw, beast, before historia became queen
founding and attack being changed wouldn't affect anything
colossal is too op
cart is too weak
war hammer is revealed too late
@@bhabinbashyal If, you have seen the ending of Aot, you will understand that Eren had seen many possibilities and the results were become worser than it's previous one and that's why he can't inherit different titans, it's a fate, he can't change still he tried to take the Jaw titan in Marley but, the things end up differently.
Cart titan is not weak, it's one of the flexible one, the titan form can be hold for more than 6 months, it has soo many advantages during battles and in the Finale of Aot, We can see it's quicker Regenerative abilities.
Heres a video idea..... what if eren , armin and mikasa were born in marley
1.erens female titan would literally have no powers just a titan, the female titans powers are to mimic other powers by eating some of them, its explained in season 4.
2. warhammer titan can use its powers without being in titan form, so i think he would win over Reiner and Berthold i warrior episode.
3. eren would not be a wolf as beast titan, a bird would fit way better.
4. zeke with attack titan would not be able to influence eren, since he can only influence other attack titan users with the future sight.
6. if eren had colossal titan, the series wouldn't happen, since walls wouldn't get destroyed in the first episode...
i swear this guy is legit dumb bro did not even bother researching a minute if eren had the war hammer he wouldn't 1v1 female armored will jump in cause they'll be informed of how dangerous the warhammer is since it isn't with the tybur family and also bertoldt will watch them just incase Eren does win that applies to eren having the armoured as well
Bro if eran had the power of armered how did rinar ( attack titan ) brock through the inner wall of siganchina.
If he had the colossal titan how did barthold ( brock the outer wall of siganchina
i think annies titan looks female because of annie, if it was someone else it would look different
also its more of a diamond or crystal titan
and at first i thought eren would get all titan powers and all their 13 years added to himself which would mean he would live until 117
Sorry I'm late, but if that's the cause, then why does ymir and pieck's titans look like men
@@Unknowno9914 because maybe they think a male appearance seems strong and intimidating
or to just be like "titan looks like a guy but the person is a cute girl"
eren had the ideology of the genocide through his future seeing powers of the attack titan...
Aww yeaaa that’s what I said!
If Eren didn't inherit the Attack Titan, he won't be able to see the future and S4 would be entirely different.
dont forget that pieck using the cart titan once destroyed one of the old armored titans by biting them and transforming whenever her titan would die. basically she killed a prehistoric armored titan so why wouldnt eren be able to beat armored?
I don’t know😅😅
I like your video topics
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Good video, but if eren had the female titan, the story would be virtually the same. The female titan's actual power is that she can inherit other titans power by drinking their spinal fluid. Annie could only harden because she drank reiners spinal fluid and the scream only worked because she had drank some of zeke's spinal fluid. This means that eren would not have had those powers, he would have just been a tall titan which can fight very well, similar to the attack titan. So yeah no major change i reckon
you should have metioned what type of beast titan he would be since he has to be a animal granting diffrent traits and stats
I fell of my chair when he said WEEKS!
If Eren had the colossal titan, Then Shiganshina would not be breached, which means Eren never got eaten by that one Eldian restorationist titan, because Eren would obviously still join the army, Trost and Shiganshina would still be safe. Which means, Eren either just dies via the curse of Ymir, He gets eaten similar to to episode 7 and transforms in the 56th expedition outside the walls, Blowing up only scouts and the forest, which means his trial might just be the same, which means Eren fills in for armin as now Armin eats Attack titan bertholdt, It goes a bit easier with his fight with lara tybur, So Eren now has the 3 most powerful shifters plus hardening, The rumbling won't end as Armin can't blow him up, which means, Paradis supreme, which means, FREEDOMMMMMMMM
I have a Video adia do future forms goku might unlock but great video 😅😅
If eren had beast titan he would be a bird because freedom is he want like a bird
If Eren were to inherit the Beast Titan, he would most likely be depicted as a wolf due to his personality traits often associated with loyalty, protectiveness, and a strong sense of pack mentality, which align well with the wolf's symbolism in many cultures.
If Eren had the colossal titan, wall Maria wouldnt be invaded by titans because Berthold would have the attack titan
Make a video if eren had royal blood
no just think it was impossible like see attack titan can travel or see future or past thus eren controlled smiling titan to attack his mom instead of the colossal guy (bertherdolt), thus the young eren doesnt had the hatred among titans. Attack Titan was the right option but yeah if he got only the succession of the founding with royal blood in him it would make him unstoppable
Not to be a hater, this video is amazing, but I have seen a few plot holes in some of these changes. The first is if eren inherited the armored titan, the armored titan was a big role in breaking down some of the walls in season 1, same can be said for the colossal titan so without this transformation the titans entering the district may have never happened
Eren I think would be strongest with the armored titan I think if he ate zeke he would be able to be fast and have the speed of the atack titan that he first entreated.
If eren had the collosal titan, the wall of shiganshina wouldnt even break unless if reiner finds a way to break it. So eren would probably take a longer time to activate it
"The strongest Titan, The Colossal Titan"
Founding Titan: Am I a joke to you?
Mr Yeager, I have a theory on why Ymir and Eren’s founding titans are bigger then the other founders. So basically, I think it’s because Ymir and Eren were the only founders who have interacted with the hallucigenia, making them much bigger than the other founders.
Can we talk about how this mans misspells 'strength' as 'strenght' every single time?
I think the best titans for eren are armored, jaw, beast, and colossal
What do u think 👇
0:40 this doesn’t work because if he had the armoured there would be no hole for them originally same with bertold also no way you said the attack titan doesn’t have the past/ future sight thing
Woo I never thought of that😅
8:45 remember how peick did against the ancient war hammer
He could probably do something like that with the godlike endurance. Cart titan is really slept on but in the final fight it was kind of perfect
This was a cool video but the attack titan is perfect for eren and he is perfect for the attack
Beast titan look according to the user favourite animal or goal as we know eren like bird because he want freedom so his beast titan look like bird😅
You forget that Eren wouldn't think about trying to eat the other users until Season 3, since he only learned about that there.
If eren doesn’t have the attack titan he can’t see the future which means no rumbling so cover that
Ummmmm if eren had The armored titan the fall of shiganshina would be more difficult cuz Reiner had the attack titan
Nah if Eren did inherit the Armoured Titan in the original Reiner busted the gates of wall Maria and if Eren inherited the Armoured titan his mother wouldn't have been eaten or there is another possibility of the colossal titan soloing the breaching mission of The paradis island and busting the gates aswell but idk...
One thing you forgot on collosal titan his first transformation wouldn't happen as marley needed the collosal titan to destroy the wall but they don't have that so they can't destroy the wall
Missed out on one point, eren wouldn't be able to transfer his memories to Grisha so he could eat the Founder, he'd just be an ordinary titan shifter without being a vessel for the Founder
Good video but you skipped ALOT of details and got alot of things wrong. I suggest you make a second video regarding this subject
Im pretty sure you forgot to mention this part... If Eren is supposed to get the cart titan then that means that Grisha (Eren's Father) would be the previous user which will make the fight between Grisha and the founder harder asGrisha will most probably lose and eren will not become a titan shifter which basically prevents the rumbling to happen in the firstplace... and Eren actually influences Grisha why hee's even battling w/ the founder and since eren does not have the attack titan who can alter and influence the memories of others Grisha wont even fight at all...
Sorry if this is too much
and for the beast titan.... In my opinion Eren would most likley have features of a bird honestly as he long for freedom yk...
if he got a different titan then the story would have a different ending due to the fact that eren can not send his younger self memories to follow his path which would not lead to the events of the rumbling
Zeke with attack titan is hella scary when you think about it 💀
one major thing about the colossal titan, if eren had it, bertholdt, reiner and annie couldn't break the wall at the start and the story couldn't proceed without completely rewriting it.
nice vid bud if eren got the beast titan the past and future machanic of sieg would be wasted because he could influence the other attacks before him wich wasnt his father
That proposes and interesting theory if Eren got eaten as the female titan, as the pure titan that ate him would gain the powers and turn back human, and if that person had any memory and after their panic and rage towards the “island devils” subsided they could possibly tell them about marley and all that, leading to the scouts finding out about this information much earlier
...providing the corrupt Paradis government doesn't intervene first and send Kenny to deal with them long before the Scouts could get a word in
You forgot the Falco grice
Erin and zeke are brothers, meaning eren does have royal blood
If eren had the armored titan and assumin reiner had the attack titan, honestly that would be outrageous watching the invasion of trost and the titan assigned to attack the city just gets clapped by a cannon or killed at the nape, or just doesn't even get through, they'd probably never invade since they would have no jaw titan and the attack titan wouldn't be that great at mowing down anything.
4:12 thats technically only specific to annies female titan since eren couldnt have eaten a piece of zekes beast titan
I think you should've split each titan version of Eren into multiple alternate versions of that titan ability, like for example what if Eren had the beast titan powers and was a royal family descendant?
If Eren was the armoured titan does that mean he didn’t break the wall
I think the Beast one would be a great ending
Casually forgets the colossal Titan is what caused the whole story to happen 😂😂😂
10:18 wdym certain people? He'd only be able to send memories back to previous Attack Titan users. Which in this scenario are just the people who were originally Beast users in canon. He wouldn't be able to talk to Grisha for example as he is a Beast Titan user.
The Warhammer can't make a decent gun because even 1800s guns needed gunpowder to make bullets shoot
POV : eren looses a match in cod : I will start THE FUCKING RUMBLING
At 10:26 Zeke can't use the rumbling cause he's got Royal blood and the founding Titan so it would be impossible for the rumbling to happen due to the first kings will