I spent 10 years working for the largest Ultracap manufacturer, Maxwell Technologies since acquired by Tesla Motors. You have to be a little careful with some of the UC's coming from China. There is some real junk made there that does not have the lifetime or reliability of the Maxwell design. The capacitance quoted on these units is often very optimistic and they are usually lower than what is stated. Operating range is often inaccurate too. How do I know this? I ran the test group and we carried out competitive analysis so we saw how quickly these UC's from China would die in our tests while the Maxwell cell and some Korean products would be still going strong going through the same testing. Also mounting of the cells is important too, the higher the heat, the quicker the cell will lose capacitance and start to die. Higher heat can cause the cell to vent and spray its electrolyte everywhere which can catch fire. 65C was our max operating temp, -40C was our min, sweet spot for long life was 35C to 45C. All. Batteries and ultra caps have a self-discharge rate that's why your lead acid. battery is dead if left alone. Maxwell cells were designed for low self-discharge, so they could last up to 90 days and still start a car. Some of the Chinese cells lasted a few days before the voltage was too low to be any use. Not all cells built there were bad but many were and many were faked Maxwell cells. If you can get a hold of some Maxwell cells you can build your own cell pack. You can even keep your battery and connect across it with a UC cell pack as a perm attachment. Even a battery too weak to crank the engine e usually has enough juice to slowly charge up the UC pack to 12 volts to crank the engine and start the vehicle. We sold a commercially available Engine Start Module for trucks that replaced one of the batteries in the truck and would start the truck assuming there was enough system level voltage for the electronics to work properly.
Hi, Steve. Three things.... 1. So tickled to know that you are a rider as well, I'm not terribly surprised that with your penchant for the old British sports cars, you like the R.E. single. 2. You didn't show how your wired up TWO batteries; parallel or series? 3. I love the old Le Mans Ford GT in the background, could you do a 'walk-around' your shop and show us all your vehicles, and tell us their history?
Hit the like button before you uttered one word. As usual you videos are smart, interesting and full of interestingly practical info. Thanks for keeping us on our toes.
Great video , Steve. I like the idea of never having to worry about battery life and strength. Would be cool to see a video of you combining the four capacitors and installing them. Then maybe also an extended night run with lights on? To see how well the four together hold up, load-wise. Also, I could not help but smile when you went riding, was a pleasure to hear that 500 single thumping up from the bottom!
Thanks for this Steve, after the last video I was wandering about putting one in some of my classic bikes (all have kick starts). Have ordered a few to see how they go. Thanks again.
I wound up getting a Lithium-Ion battery for my bike, they lose a lot of cranking power when they are cold, it would be interesting to know if the supercapacitors keep their cranking power when cold. Beautiful looking bike 👍
Yes they do they were first used in arctic diesel trucks to start them in the Arctic when batteries lose their power. The Maxwell Starting Unit is the leader for Arctic trucks and it is a proven technology.
I did not think the Enfield would start with two capacitors on the starter. We always had to kick start, but it never failed to start with the capacitor.
Surprised your battery failed when using a tender. I've had the same batt on my '04 Bonneville for 3 years, always connecting to tender when not riding with no issues.
@@ThisWeekWithCars How much weight did you save? Isn't it best to combine capacitors with small batteries? I feel capacitors are very helpful at lightening the nose of front engine cars, especially when combining a capacitor under the hood with a battery in the trunk, a big battery in the trunk if traction is the goal, smaller for performance or economy. What is the charging voltage on that bike? maybe it is wrong and that is what is killing batteries.
@@bisonuberti -- thanks Bison -- very interesting. What stands out most to me is the weight. Seems a small fraction of a battery. Good way to knock 20-30lbs off the front end and overall.
@@ThisWeekWithCars -- tnx Steve -- watched it with much interest. Love the weight (or lack of) but wondering how compatible these are with the computers in our cars today. tnx
I have a battery charger installed when my Triumph is not in use, it trickle charges , then shuts down , then trickle charges when the voltage drops a bit .. the battery is now 5 years old and shows no sign of failing
It has been in three of my videos but not one on it specifically. th-cam.com/video/Lh37Q1TNzPI/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/vH5zFcYACuE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/hxD4CGdEmBo/w-d-xo.html
great to see a Royal Enfield rolling down the Road, would've like to see you wearing gloves. I have nightmare from coming off my bike when not wearing gloves. Tarmac/concrete plays havoc with skin & bone. You can be the most careful bike driver in the world, but idiot car drivers are everywhere. Its like not belting up/crash hat as far as I can see. Sorry, not a killjoy but wow its painful.
Never ride a motorcycle without full protective clothing, boots and gloves. Ten years ago, I was knocked off my bike by a car on the wrong side of the road. I was wearing jeans and suffered a serious knee injury.
@@SilverFlint247 I did not realize that they were the same as a capacitor for a radio or similar. You answered my question as I was wondering if they were the same but on a larger scale. Thanks
lets talk about thumpers, why dont you just take the battery out of the bike for the winter, check the ground, that sneaky little bastard can really fool you well maybe not you but it did me. aint electrics and wiring just grand . ha!
I’ve been running capacitors in place of batteries for years on my old British bikes, the big blue cans as they call them. My Bonneville has points and coil ignition and my Norton has a magneto ignition. I’m curious as to why would you not recommend them?
@@shockcoach Well, mainly because I heard, I don't know for certain, that capacitors can loose their 'charge' over a relatively short time as compared to batteries, at least the lead acid batteries 'of old'. Basically PW, I know nothing at all about capacitors except that they do make great booster starter packs :). I guess I need 'education n these.
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I spent 10 years working for the largest Ultracap manufacturer, Maxwell Technologies since acquired by Tesla Motors. You have to be a little careful with some of the UC's coming from China. There is some real junk made there that does not have the lifetime or reliability of the Maxwell design. The capacitance quoted on these units is often very optimistic and they are usually lower than what is stated. Operating range is often inaccurate too. How do I know this? I ran the test group and we carried out competitive analysis so we saw how quickly these UC's from China would die in our tests while the Maxwell cell and some Korean products would be still going strong going through the same testing. Also mounting of the cells is important too, the higher the heat, the quicker the cell will lose capacitance and start to die. Higher heat can cause the cell to vent and spray its electrolyte everywhere which can catch fire. 65C was our max operating temp, -40C was our min, sweet spot for long life was 35C to 45C. All. Batteries and ultra caps have a self-discharge rate that's why your lead acid. battery is dead if left alone. Maxwell cells were designed for low self-discharge, so they could last up to 90 days and still start a car. Some of the Chinese cells lasted a few days before the voltage was too low to be any use. Not all cells built there were bad but many were and many were faked Maxwell cells. If you can get a hold of some Maxwell cells you can build your own cell pack. You can even keep your battery and connect across it with a UC cell pack as a perm attachment. Even a battery too weak to crank the engine e usually has enough juice to slowly charge up the UC pack to 12 volts to crank the engine and start the vehicle. We sold a commercially available Engine Start Module for trucks that replaced one of the batteries in the truck and would start the truck assuming there was enough system level voltage for the electronics to work properly.
Hi, Steve. Three things....
1. So tickled to know that you are a rider as well, I'm not terribly surprised that with your penchant for the old British sports cars, you like the R.E. single.
2. You didn't show how your wired up TWO batteries; parallel or series?
3. I love the old Le Mans Ford GT in the background, could you do a 'walk-around' your shop and show us all your vehicles, and tell us their history?
Parallel. You can wire in as many as you want if you wire them parallel.
I was not aware of these until you mentioned them. They might be a good solution for cold winters here in the UK!
I have been toying with the same idea for my motorbike. Thanks for trying out the theory on your bike first.
No problem 👍
Hit the like button before you uttered one word. As usual you videos are smart, interesting and full of interestingly practical info. Thanks for keeping us on our toes.
Great video , Steve. I like the idea of never having to worry about battery life and strength. Would be cool to see a video of you combining the four capacitors and installing them. Then maybe also an extended night run with lights on? To see how well the four together hold up, load-wise.
Also, I could not help but smile when you went riding, was a pleasure to hear that 500 single thumping up from the bottom!
Thanks for this Steve, after the last video I was wandering about putting one in some of my classic bikes (all have kick starts). Have ordered a few to see how they go. Thanks again.
I wound up getting a Lithium-Ion battery for my bike, they lose a lot of cranking power when they are cold, it would be interesting to know if the supercapacitors keep their cranking power when cold. Beautiful looking bike 👍
Yes they do they were first used in arctic diesel trucks to start them in the Arctic when batteries lose their power. The Maxwell Starting Unit is the leader for Arctic trucks and it is a proven technology.
Great idea could use this on my FJ1100, always seems to kill batteries
that was great. really wish you would dissect one in a video
Would or do you have to change the rectifier to change the capacitors? 😎👍
Yes
What's the value again? Voltage and micro ferrad
Beautiful bike...
It works - just. But with such an extremely limited charge, they're not practical in cold weather or hard starts etc.
You have that backwards these perform better than batteries in cold weather and hard starts.
I did not think the Enfield would start with two capacitors on the starter. We always had to kick start, but it never failed to start with the capacitor.
Why didn’t you use the CSDWELL E32 16v 58f 6x350F capacitor instead of three or four R13 8.3f 6x50F?
Surprised your battery failed when using a tender. I've had the same batt on my '04 Bonneville for 3 years, always connecting to tender when not riding with no issues.
This is my fourth Royal Enfield and always had problems with batteries on them.
Battery tender may be the issue?
@@ThisWeekWithCars How much weight did you save? Isn't it best to combine capacitors with small batteries? I feel capacitors are very helpful at lightening the nose of front engine cars, especially when combining a capacitor under the hood with a battery in the trunk, a big battery in the trunk if traction is the goal, smaller for performance or economy.
What is the charging voltage on that bike? maybe it is wrong and that is what is killing batteries.
More bike video's for sure. Not sure a high compression model would be successful, what's your view?
Interesting.
imaginative. Do the capacitors recharge as u drive the bike? Would love to see any followup ..... subscribed.
Yes just like a battery but is not affected if you let it drain over the winter.
Watch my first video about ultracaps: th-cam.com/video/wvY-1NERfQs/w-d-xo.html
Colin... you should watch the video where he uses one on one of his cars.
@@bisonuberti -- thanks Bison -- very interesting. What stands out most to me is the weight. Seems a small fraction of a battery. Good way to knock 20-30lbs off the front end and overall.
@@ThisWeekWithCars -- tnx Steve -- watched it with much interest. Love the weight (or lack of) but wondering how compatible these are with the computers in our cars today. tnx
I have a battery charger installed when my Triumph is not in use, it trickle charges , then shuts down , then trickle charges when the voltage drops a bit .. the battery is now 5 years old and shows no sign of failing
Loved the video! Where can you purchase these? Thanks
amzn.to/2SimdP8
@@ThisWeekWithCars Thanks!
On another topic, have you did a vid on the GT40 behind the bike?
It has been in three of my videos but not one on it specifically.
th-cam.com/video/Lh37Q1TNzPI/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/vH5zFcYACuE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/hxD4CGdEmBo/w-d-xo.html
Would be nice to say the pricing in the video although the link does bring you there . 🇨🇦👍
Does this work with dry cell batteries ?
After 25+ years, _this_ guy makes me want to get my bike going. Or was that get back to my flying car fantasy...
Would like to see the cap rating.
Do you have a link to the ultracaps or the specs on them? I'm seriously considering getting some for my own bike.
amzn.to/2SimdP8
Good vid Steve.So one is plenty if you live at the top of a hill.
Cheers.lol.
great to see a Royal Enfield rolling down the Road, would've like to see you wearing gloves. I have nightmare from coming off my bike when not wearing gloves. Tarmac/concrete plays havoc with skin & bone. You can be the most careful bike driver in the world, but idiot car drivers are everywhere. Its like not belting up/crash hat as far as I can see. Sorry, not a killjoy but wow its painful.
I came off my bike once, not wearing gloves. (They were in my back pocket.) I'll never, never, ever do that again. Trust me, always wear gloves.
Never ride a motorcycle without full protective clothing, boots and gloves. Ten years ago, I was knocked off my bike by a car on the wrong side of the road. I was wearing jeans and suffered a serious knee injury.
I have a 2003 old school RE Bullet. Easier on batteries. I get 2-3 years on them.
👍! do they make those in 6v to fit a 58 Triumph motorcycle?
I am going to be testing 6 volt solutions in upcoming videos.
How do the ultra capacitors work? First I have heard of them being used in place of a battery.
Watch my first video about ultracaps: th-cam.com/video/wvY-1NERfQs/w-d-xo.html
@@ThisWeekWithCars thx
A capacitor store energy in an electrical field instead of chemical reaction like in a lead-acid battery.
@@SilverFlint247 I did not realize that they were the same as a capacitor for a radio or similar. You answered my question as I was wondering if they were the same but on a larger scale. Thanks
What is that beautiful car in the back on the right?
Ford GT40 mark II....gotta be a replica
It sounds like RE has a slow drain in their electrical system.
Sounds like your generator is not regulated properly.
Gt40?
Interesting ... sounds like a 4 stroke, will they crank 2 stroke too?
I would think its easier for a 2T engine to start as theres less reciprocating parts to drag around than on a 4T engine
lets talk about thumpers, why dont you just take the battery out of the bike for the winter, check the ground, that sneaky little bastard can really fool you well maybe not you but it did me. aint electrics and wiring just grand . ha!
In this case, I would not rely on capacitors for everyday driving on my Royal Enfield ( or any bike ). I'd rather trust a good quality battery!
I’ve been running capacitors in place of batteries for years on my old British bikes, the big blue cans as they call them. My Bonneville has points and coil ignition and my Norton has a magneto ignition. I’m curious as to why would you not recommend them?
@@shockcoach Well, mainly because I heard, I don't know for certain, that capacitors can loose their 'charge' over a relatively short time as compared to
batteries, at least the lead acid batteries 'of old'.
Basically PW, I know nothing at all about capacitors except that they do make great booster starter packs :). I guess I need 'education n these.