Just bought a pre-gen Ninja 250 and you guys are like having a big brother to go to every time I have an issue...I appreciate everything you do...you guys are awesome!
The best solution to a dead battery is to place a fan in front of the bike, sit on the bike, and use your imagination. Yesterday I went to ride of the century rode with the guys at the Isle of Man and never left the bubble wrapped safety of my garage.
OregonOnTwoWheels OregonOnTwoWheels Awe man, my bad I was about to hit mach 1 going into that corner and I was worried that if I lifted up my had to wave the shear force of the wind generated by the Honeywell standup fan would’ve ripped off my hand. I am sincerely sorry 😞.
I have been squiding since I was 4 on a 40s bike my grandma had in her backyard. I got in a bad wreck though when I was 6. the bike tipped over not fun at all.
I just killed my battery by leaving the key in and the light on and was unsure of the best things to do for my battery after that. I really appreciate your great and detailed instructions. Keep rockin two wheels down.
IDYLBERRY it works no problem. Most of the time the battery is not completely empty but not strong enough to turn the starter. Fuel pump is running as usual
Excellent! Your video saved me from spending hundreds of dollars ~ was able remove the seat & charge the dead battery (as the motor bike was left unused for months!! Much appreciate
MC Garage.. Thank you for your service! Jumped my 2016 kawasaki ninja zx6r battery whihc was completely dead from my car and left it running for 45 mins.. battery charged fully.. no issues..
Hey Ari, this is a very useful video, I hope you will release more in depth ones. One more tip from me: once the engine has cranked, then go out for a 2 hours ride on a smooth road (avoid stop and go in the trafic) in order to let the electrical system of your bike to effectively recharge the battery. If your battery has really come to its end, then this method could not be enough. For this reason, if you have some rest along the way, then take care of parking your bike facing downhill. The recharged juice should be enough to power the sparks and the injectors anyway, the slope will help you cranking the engine. Sometimes even the 2nd gear is too short, then go with the 3rd. Have fun ;-)
Exactly don’t do it my damn self dead I want to first and accidentally released my clutch there went the rest of my battery I’d also be concerned with stop and go traffic because on a hill I haven’t given enough gas ones with the clutch and stalled for a second Battery was dead that would suck
Unfortunately for me this happened on a Sunday evening when all the shops was closed...so I rode home instead and now my bike jump starts but doesn't stay on after I remove the jumper cables
I started learning to ride on my dad's bike yesterday and I heard this exact sound when I tried starting it, I'm so glad I didn't just break it beyond repair
Dude! Thanks for helping me out on this nice sunny day. It worked and I was off in 10 mins! Thanks for the simple and clear explanation. It was a great day.
And the connection of negative cable to frame on the "dead" bike is also because the current will take the path of least resistance to the starter. The dead battery will act as a huge resistor and can make jumpstart even more difficult.
Being i have a degree in electrical engineering, i can tell you he is right that you cant damage the bike battery from jumping it with a car or truck or a tank battery for that matter. Electrical devices only pull the amount of current they need. The dead battery is just another load in a the circuit of the larger vehicle, therefore it will only drop the voltage from the running circuit that its rated for, and it will only pull the current its rated for. Electrons flow negative to positive, therefore current is pulled and not pushed. This is why it's always the negative terminal that sparks. Yes it is ground, but power is constantly being pulled to ground, the lesser charge. Think of how vacuum works. Air gets pulled to the lesser pressure. The cylinder creates low pressure below ambient when the piston is sucked down into the cylinder by the crankshaft. This gives the intake manifold vacuum. And now with vacuum we can run fuel pressure regulators, brake boosters... and turbos.
VR46 Helmet spotted in the left corner! I just want to say that you guys are awesome and i have been watching this channel from the beginning. Great quality content with a lot of usefull tips and tricks. Love it! Keep going! Much love from Belgium!
This happened to me recently. Battery dropped to 11.2 volts. Stuck it on a charger for 30 minutes and she was good to go.The battery quickly went up to 13+ volts and started like a champ. The battery was reading only 30% charge on a smart charger. That power pack looks quite tempting now.
As this is the case on my bike, I ingeniously got a Noco Genius. Will try it out tomorrow. Thanks once again for your awesome videos. In case you're catholic, I'm nominating you for the patron saint of motorcycle repair.
I have heard all sorts of horror stories about charging your bike from a car, so I clicked on this vid and it did help, damn battery virtually flat. It took 3 attempts to start the bike from the car battery, with plenty of revs to stop it dying, I thought the battery had died on me all together, this attempt to save my battery is much needed as the weather is getting colder... Working fine now, fingers crossed.. Cheers bro..
There is a company in South-Africa that recondition your old battery (no matter the condition) to almost better than brand new condition! I have taken my 10year old battery to them three times and it works fantastically well 👌
When jumping from a car...12 volts is 12 volts whether it comes from a big battery or a small battery. You can not harm a motorcycle by jumping it from a car battery.
Absolutely right. Whatever the component is i.e. The starter on the dead machine, it will draw whatever it needs regardless of the the provided source.
Kendog....Exactly. Just because that truck battery has 840 cold cranking amps doesn't mean it shoves it down your motorcycle's throat. It simply means it's available should you need it. And you won't.
Yes it is no harm to the bike itself because its voltage controlled. However, a dead battery can act like a very low impedance almost short to another voltage source, thus it is possible for the large car battery to push too much current at once in the small dead motorcycle battery if left on too long.
2:00 I would have said this statement was true until I jump started my SRAD 750 1996 with a Mercedes SLK 230 2002.. I was advised to turn the lights on the Mercedes whilst jump starting to help dissipate some of the power.I didn't think it mattered much so I didn't bother. Although I got the motorcycle running, later on in the week I realised the rectifier had a fault which I replaced and also had to get the stator repaired. The battery was obviously dying and for some reason though it certainly didn't help jump starting it the way I did.. So I'd advise that if you do jump start from another vehicle that has much more power than the dead batterys vehicle, simply dissipate the power as you jump start!
Just for the record, jumping Harley Davidsons from a car is a surefire way to burn out your reg/rec, as you said most other bikes are fine, but having worked with harelys for a good 2 years I saw a lot with burned out regulators because the owners jumped them from running cars, great video as always though mate
Liam - Bollocks Very true Liam, a friend jumped my KTM 640 from a running car, destroyed the system as you suggested. Cost a fortune to replace. Also Car battery chargers are a no go for bikes ! Awesome series, learning so much from you. Cheers ✊🏾🤠👊🏾
the difference between car battery and motorcycle battery is just the amperage capacity. and it should be just fine. and i have try it. (not on harley)
Yansen Haryanto correct, however I wasn’t talking about it killing the battery, I’m talking about it killing the regulator, because as you said, the difference is the amperage, the regulator is designed for motorcycle amperage, specifically the motorcycle it’s on, not the massive amount a car or van would take
Liam As far as I know is the reg/rec is dealing with voltage and not amps (of course to many amps will fry anything) But I think the problem is jump starting with the car running, because the alternator in the car, makes another current than motorcycles, therefore the problem. If the car is stopped when jump starting, there should be no problem. At least I think so.
I just got a portable jump starter, the NOCO Boost Plus. Thing works like a charm, and small enough to easily carry around on a bike just in case. Now I'm just trying to figure out if I actually need a new battery or not...
@@noodles806 Yep sounds like it. Mine is a Yuasa too, YTZ10S. Bike is a 2015 FJ-09, but I bought it used in 2020 with about 1000 miles on it. So probably the original battery, and it started dying last year. I guess ~5 years is a pretty typical life cycle for these batteries. Maybe even closer to 3 years in some circumstances.
@@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145 Yup, life cycle is has been about 4 years for me out in SoCal, and possibly shorter now that I'm out in the high desert. Appreciate your input - ride safe and keep both wheels on the ground!
OMG..I saved saved "potentially" so much time jumping my bike. I bought a new battery like last month. Bike started dieing randomly in traffic situations. Usually in 2nd going about 45-60. The past 2 weeks, i've changed the spark plugs, tested the ignition, replaced the fuel pump, and fuel pump filter, the amount of labor into the bike thus far is timeless. Tonight, I decided to try to jump it. OMG.. worked. Didn't hold the charge but, she turned on!! Between the Sparkplugs and the battery... I had no juice and no spark, I was going nowhere. I have a '14 Suzuki GSX R750, the sparkplugs are literally in the middle of the bike under everything (fuel tank, air filter..ect)
Was super pumped to go for a ride after being away from it for a while. Turned out I had left my lights on and it wouldn’t crank. Didn’t have jumper cables that day and was pissed off at first… but anyone else ever think that if something like this happens that it wasn’t meant to be? That somehow you staying home because the bike wouldn’t start cod possibly have saved you from a wreck? Idk but that thought made me less annoyed with the situation
my honda sh50 city express year 2000, runs happy without battery in at all just cant run indicators and lights at same time had it over 18 years now still runs good.
What about the now apparently ‘old school’ cranking battery that usually lives on a battery tender in the depths of the garage/shed/workshop and is only ever wheeled out for the odd cold start morning or the ‘left the parking lights on’ excuse. Best use of a big old 12V lead brick there is. It may not start your car/truck but it will easily crank a wittle motorcycle engine.
Another method when you have no jumping cable and etc. Pull clutch, run like hell pushing the bike, quickly kick up to 3rd and 4th gear, let go of the clutch slowly about half or 3/4 and wrist the throttle. Easiest is going down the slope sitting on the bike with clutch pull, up to the stated gear at the precised speed, let go of the clutch slowly, when it starting to go alive then wrist the throttle to start. Works for me to ride back home and juice the battery overnight.
If your rectifier plug is melting, you definitely have an issue with your regulator not regulating, and that'll cook all sorts of stuff including your battery.
2:01 He's totally wrong..I fried a bike's ignitor that I once owned by jumping it off with a car that was running..Do not..I repeat Do Not have the car/vehicle running while jumping your bike off...There are plenty of other sites that say the same thing.
Does a battery cut off switch helps reduce battery drainage when not riding the bike? (just like if it was disconnected?) I do not ride one of my bike very often so its battery always go dead and is not quickly accessible, plus I don't have power for a battery tender.
It might help, but the brutal truth is that lead-acid batteries have a fairly high self-discharge rate, so even if it's disconnected it'll drain down over a few months. Get yourself a float charger and hook up a quick-connect pigtail so it's easy to use.
Ari Henning Yeah I already have a portable jumper and planned to hook UP a Quick connect plug :) I ride the bike maybe twice a Month. Do gel batteries hold up better over time?
If you have one of those old-school flooded (wet) lead-acid batteries, they all suck and will die far faster than more modern technologies like the "gel" batteries you mentioned. Get yourself a quality gel/AGM battery and keep it hooked up to a float charger that turns off once the battery is charged and it'll last you 5-8 years.
Ari Henning haha yeah this is exactly the battery I have (this bike is my old BMW café racer), I'll get a new agm battery like I have in my modern bike and try to ride it more often :) I have no power outlet in my parking unfortunately. Thanks for the help !
Since the battery of my Honda VTX 1300 is under my seat and not easily accessible, I installed a pigtail for easy connection to my Battery Tender trickle charger. Can I use that same pigtail to jumpstart the bike, say from another bike, car or jump pack? Will the pigtail wire handle it? Thanks
I bought a jump starter kit and a battery tender that is a charger and a maintainer. Comes with the cable So you're saying i can just use thr battery tender to jump it too?
Wow that Portable Power Pack have gone up in price since this video was made. Ari says that it cost 90 bucks but when using the provided link i go to one that cost 163 bucks.
Just be aware that jumping from a car battery can be bad for bike electrics and void warranties on ecu, battery and electrical bits. I’ve not had an issue when doing it in a pinch but I did have a warning light come until my next dealership service (when they told me the above info)
I had to use a portable power pack like you mentioned on my SV 650 Suzuki. The only pain was having to get to the battery for the jump start. You have to unscrew two panels two screws to get the seat out and lift a tray out. And by the time I got to the battery they’re all these parts hanging and screws on the floor. Is there a solution of getting some type of extension cable that can extend in the backseat and then connect the jumper cables there without having to remove all these parts to get to the battery?
I'm reading online that the black connector on the trickle charger is supposed to go on the bike frame (ie, a metallic grounded source) instead of the black lead on the battery. Y/N?
My suzuki sv650 was sitting for a while and I tried using the jump start method. The bike lights up and stuff but won't start. It makes a noise when I press the power ignition button. Please have you any advice to share!!
*you did not add the link to the Battery Tender by Deltran* *i just push start the bike* i have jumper cables but removed from car to save space, that battery pack is better cause sometimes you can't park directly in front of the a car that needs jumping
Is there a difference between standard battery charger cables and jump start cables? Can I turn the ignition on if I'm just using a standard battery charger pack with cables attached? Cheers
Does it make a difference if I remove the + cable from the bike battery first? As soon as I do, the engine dies again. I'll try again with your method.
If you adjust your suspension from time to time consider doing the headlight aiming/adjusting deal at the same time too. Just something to keep in mind.
MR. Duffy put the bike well vertical (ask a friend to sit on it and hold it vertical) in front of a wall that is 10 meters far away. Measure the height of the bulb of the headlight. Now measure the height of the top flat edge of the illuminated portion of the wall: it must be 90% of the bulb height. Refer to the pic goo.gl/images/bWQmpd
I dont think its a stop motion. I think they shot the part where "Garage" is written, then erased it, shook the table in a certain fashion and recorded it becoming a mess. Then they reversed that mess footage, stitched it with the writing footage and the whole thing looks like magic. Quite creative.
Hi i recently just bought a 2019 honda rebel 300 but haven't rode it since i got it which is probably about a month. Reason i didn't ride is cause i'm not fully licensed to ride one yet, but today when i cranked the ignition, it was very sluggish and made the same sound as you did in the beginning of the video. I did notice everything else was beginning to die, including the lights and signals etc... could it be that the bike was sitting in the dealership for a while and the battery just slowly dying? tonight i ordered a charger from Amazon, and i should get it tomorrow, so hopefully it just needed a simple charge.
Are there any differences, benefits, or issues with charging a bike, car, lawnmower, etc., with the battery IN circuit vs OUT of circuit? Does it make any difference? If I’m regularly using a Battery Tender, say, during winter months (any long period of down time), is it better to keep the battery out of/disconnected from the vehicle circuit, or is it the same as leaving it connected to the vehicle while charging?
Do you recommend replacing a battery every few years as preventative maintenance, or do you keep going on the same battery until it goes bad? I've got a 2014 FZ-09 with the original battery. No issues so far, but I'm wondering when I should replace it.
Lester Marten The battery will go bad slowly if you don' discharge it completly very often. I would only consider buying a new one if your bike doesn't hold the charge for a few weeks without riding. If you are worried about one day not being able to start your bike I would rather invest in a charger/jumper cables.
Iv'e had batteries last 10 years on many vehicles. Never let a lead acid battery go flat ever the acid is actually stronger when flat and there not designed to cycle like other batteries. Best tip is to always start engine first then turn on accessories/lights and at the end turn everything of and run for a bit for a bit to top the battery up a little. I know on some vehicles it's not possible but this helps the battery a fair bit.
Hello, My hornet 600 (2005) has a dead battery. I can't charge the battery because the screws are messed up and I can't remove them. Tried to bump start it, but as she have the HISS system, I can't put 2nd gear and it doesn't work in neutral. I tried the bump start in a slightly inclined road, would I be able to bump start it in neutral if I manage to get the bike to a big inclination road?
Can u Pls do a video of backfire and after fire on engines due to aftermarket exhaust.. Do we really need to remap and change air filter after we install aftermarket exhaust.. What happens if we don't remap and change air filter.. Would be great if you guys explain this in a video..
That's a tricky one, because some bikes are fine with a pipe but most do need to be remapped b/c they run too lean and you risk overheating or poor running. But I'll add the topic to the list.
Ari Henning thanks for that.. I do understand what your Tellin.. But with so many myths and people talking about this issue, it's really difficult to know whats fact and what is not..
Ari, sometime you folks should do a vid on the proper way to do motorcycle coolant, from draining, flushing, re-filling, & bleeding the cooling system. I looked it up and dont believe you had done an mc garage on this topic yet. thanks!
I have a kawasaki Vulcan 650s and it has a VTZ 10S battery. Can I replace it with a VTZ5s ?? I live in Thailand out in no where country side. And for the life of me I can't find any big motorcycle shops around. But there is a thousand scooter repair shops around.
Great video, any chance to show how to start the motorcycle in the cold weather around 5 degrees or under, I'm always struggling to start my bike during the temp is that low
Keep it in. A garage then use a heater. I lived in a sub level and bought a 50ft extension cord. And would take a smoke break while watching my bike and moderating the heater under the tarp facing the bike keeping it warm this helped
Thanks for the great video. Now we are starting to get lion batteries on bikes. My lion jump,starter says, "warning, in the instructions don't use on lion batteries" . What do you think
I have brand new battery install on my 2004 RR . In the beginning it was good after a month I have to jump start the bike every time , I took the battery to the store where I pitched they recharge it and gave back and gain in beginning it was good now jump start again. I can’t go anywhere without jump start the bike. Looks soo dumb jump starting the bike
My batter tender has been on my bike for 24 hours (after a long trip yesterday back from Baja) thought it sounded weak at startup, it's now SOLID RED for 10 seconds, then 1 GREEN Flash, then Solid Red for another 10 seconds, then 1 Green Flash again like that on and one. ??? what is that???
u r the best bro, i have my first bike and you help me a lot... can you make a video with the things you have to do to mantenance, i mean a list or the primary things to do? thanks for your videos, and sorry for my inglish jajaja
Nice, was worried about the car to motorcycle. Just bought a yamaha fz09 from snake river yamaha and o took it out to the mall for a few hours. Tried to turn it back on and the batter was dead..
Just bought a pre-gen Ninja 250 and you guys are like having a big brother to go to every time I have an issue...I appreciate everything you do...you guys are awesome!
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I just started riding a motorcycle and my battery went dead. You helped me find the location of the battery on my bike lol Thank you!
The best solution to a dead battery is to place a fan in front of the bike, sit on the bike, and use your imagination. Yesterday I went to ride of the century rode with the guys at the Isle of Man and never left the bubble wrapped safety of my garage.
OregonOnTwoWheels OregonOnTwoWheels Awe man, my bad I was about to hit mach 1 going into that corner and I was worried that if I lifted up my had to wave the shear force of the wind generated by the Honeywell standup fan would’ve ripped off my hand. I am sincerely sorry 😞.
This is how I ride every winter.
Kill Switch Off Hell yeah brother ride safe
I have been squiding since I was 4 on a 40s bike my grandma had in her backyard. I got in a bad wreck though when I was 6. the bike tipped over not fun at all.
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I just killed my battery by leaving the key in and the light on and was unsure of the best things to do for my battery after that. I really appreciate your great and detailed instructions. Keep rockin two wheels down.
What did you do replace it or charge it somehow?
Always Park at the top of the hill. Problem solved.
Doesn't work with fuel injected systems. Need power for fuel pump.
IDYLBERRY nope. I roll started my 2014 Street Triple.
I did that for weeks bevor getting a Lithium Batterie
IDYLBERRY it works no problem. Most of the time the battery is not completely empty but not strong enough to turn the starter. Fuel pump is running as usual
it does
Excellent! Your video saved me from spending hundreds of dollars ~ was able remove the seat & charge the dead battery (as the motor bike was left unused for months!! Much appreciate
MC Garage.. Thank you for your service! Jumped my 2016 kawasaki ninja zx6r battery whihc was completely dead from my car and left it running for 45 mins.. battery charged fully.. no issues..
Do you have any issues with the battery draining? Did it crank up the next day without it needing to be charged?
Hey Ari, this is a very useful video, I hope you will release more in depth ones.
One more tip from me: once the engine has cranked, then go out for a 2 hours ride on a smooth road (avoid stop and go in the trafic) in order to let the electrical system of your bike to effectively recharge the battery. If your battery has really come to its end, then this method could not be enough. For this reason, if you have some rest along the way, then take care of parking your bike facing downhill. The recharged juice should be enough to power the sparks and the injectors anyway, the slope will help you cranking the engine. Sometimes even the 2nd gear is too short, then go with the 3rd.
Have fun ;-)
Exactly don’t do it my damn self dead I want to first and accidentally released my clutch there went the rest of my battery I’d also be concerned with stop and go traffic because on a hill I haven’t given enough gas ones with the clutch and stalled for a second Battery was dead that would suck
What happens on traffic lights? I have that happen to me
Unfortunately for me this happened on a Sunday evening when all the shops was closed...so I rode home instead and now my bike jump starts but doesn't stay on after I remove the jumper cables
I started learning to ride on my dad's bike yesterday and I heard this exact sound when I tried starting it, I'm so glad I didn't just break it beyond repair
Dude! Thanks for helping me out on this nice sunny day. It worked and I was off in 10 mins! Thanks for the simple and clear explanation. It was a great day.
And the connection of negative cable to frame on the "dead" bike is also because the current will take the path of least resistance to the starter. The dead battery will act as a huge resistor and can make jumpstart even more difficult.
Being i have a degree in electrical engineering, i can tell you he is right that you cant damage the bike battery from jumping it with a car or truck or a tank battery for that matter. Electrical devices only pull the amount of current they need. The dead battery is just another load in a the circuit of the larger vehicle, therefore it will only drop the voltage from the running circuit that its rated for, and it will only pull the current its rated for. Electrons flow negative to positive, therefore current is pulled and not pushed. This is why it's always the negative terminal that sparks. Yes it is ground, but power is constantly being pulled to ground, the lesser charge. Think of how vacuum works. Air gets pulled to the lesser pressure. The cylinder creates low pressure below ambient when the piston is sucked down into the cylinder by the crankshaft. This gives the intake manifold vacuum. And now with vacuum we can run fuel pressure regulators, brake boosters... and turbos.
Thank you very much for your instruction. This is exactly what I need. My bike's battery is dead now and I need to jumper it for startup.
VR46 Helmet spotted in the left corner! I just want to say that you guys are awesome and i have been watching this channel from the beginning. Great quality content with a lot of usefull tips and tricks. Love it! Keep going! Much love from Belgium!
Thank you! I've visited your country and enjoyed it very much.
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This happened to me recently. Battery dropped to 11.2 volts. Stuck it on a charger for 30 minutes and she was good to go.The battery quickly went up to 13+ volts and started like a champ. The battery was reading only 30% charge on a smart charger. That power pack looks quite tempting now.
As this is the case on my bike, I ingeniously got a Noco Genius. Will try it out tomorrow. Thanks once again for your awesome videos. In case you're catholic, I'm nominating you for the patron saint of motorcycle repair.
ROTFLMAO, that last sentence. \(^o^)/
I have heard all sorts of horror stories about charging your bike from a car, so I clicked on this vid and it did help, damn battery virtually flat. It took 3 attempts to start the bike from the car battery, with plenty of revs to stop it dying, I thought the battery had died on me all together, this attempt to save my battery is much needed as the weather is getting colder...
Working fine now, fingers crossed.. Cheers bro..
Awesome video! My drz died on me!! Your explanation really helps a lot!!! Thanks!!
THE best motorcycle channel for informative videos!! Always appreciate your work.
Right on, thanks!
What I did was get a new battery. Worked just fine. =P Excellent video, guys! Thanks a lot!
There is a company in South-Africa that recondition your old battery (no matter the condition) to almost better than brand new condition!
I have taken my 10year old battery to them three times and it works fantastically well 👌
When jumping from a car...12 volts is 12 volts whether it comes from a big battery or a small battery. You can not harm a motorcycle by jumping it from a car battery.
Absolutely right. Whatever the component is i.e. The starter on the dead machine, it will draw whatever it needs regardless of the the provided source.
Kendog....Exactly. Just because that truck battery has 840 cold cranking amps doesn't mean it shoves it down your motorcycle's throat. It simply means it's available should you need it. And you won't.
+Another Millennial ...They spark a little, just don't drop them.
Yes it is no harm to the bike itself because its voltage controlled. However, a dead battery can act like a very low impedance almost short to another voltage source, thus it is possible for the large car battery to push too much current at once in the small dead motorcycle battery if left on too long.
81KMan....True, a dead battery with shorted cells will tax the healthy battery. This would be felt also in the heating of the jumper cables.
just jump started my bike after watching this video! thank you
That new thumbnail is great! 😂👏
Good information, as usuall. Keep running your videos!,
My worst fears when dealing with batteries!
2:00 I would have said this statement was true until I jump started my SRAD 750 1996 with a Mercedes SLK 230 2002.. I was advised to turn the lights on the Mercedes whilst jump starting to help dissipate some of the power.I didn't think it mattered much so I didn't bother.
Although I got the motorcycle running, later on in the week I realised the rectifier had a fault which I replaced and also had to get the stator repaired. The battery was obviously dying and for some reason though it certainly didn't help jump starting it the way I did..
So I'd advise that if you do jump start from another vehicle that has much more power than the dead batterys vehicle, simply dissipate the power as you jump start!
Just for the record, jumping Harley Davidsons from a car is a surefire way to burn out your reg/rec, as you said most other bikes are fine, but having worked with harelys for a good 2 years I saw a lot with burned out regulators because the owners jumped them from running cars, great video as always though mate
Liam - Bollocks Very true Liam, a friend jumped my KTM 640 from a running car, destroyed the system as you suggested. Cost a fortune to replace.
Also Car battery chargers are a no go for bikes !
Awesome series, learning so much from you.
Cheers
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Yep, it's good to get a charger that has option to select car or motorcycle or on that can recognize the difference and adjust its charging.
the difference between car battery and motorcycle battery is just the amperage capacity. and it should be just fine. and i have try it. (not on harley)
Yansen Haryanto correct, however I wasn’t talking about it killing the battery, I’m talking about it killing the regulator, because as you said, the difference is the amperage, the regulator is designed for motorcycle amperage, specifically the motorcycle it’s on, not the massive amount a car or van would take
Liam As far as I know is the reg/rec is dealing with voltage and not amps (of course to many amps will fry anything) But I think the problem is jump starting with the car running, because the alternator in the car, makes another current than motorcycles, therefore the problem. If the car is stopped when jump starting, there should be no problem. At least I think so.
THANK U FOR THE EXAMPLE OF THE SOUND A DEAD BIKE BATTERY MAKES @0:03 UGH SMH LOOKING FORWARD TO THE VIDEO
Bump start FTW
i like the intro with the bolts and knobs, cool touch 👌
I just got a portable jump starter, the NOCO Boost Plus. Thing works like a charm, and small enough to easily carry around on a bike just in case. Now I'm just trying to figure out if I actually need a new battery or not...
Did you end up needing a new battery?
@@noodles806 Yep I sure did, ended up replacing it just a few days after I got the NOCO.
Good to know! I think I'm due for one too, with a Yuasa manufactured in 2017 and the bike dying as soon as I turn off my NOCO.
@@noodles806 Yep sounds like it. Mine is a Yuasa too, YTZ10S. Bike is a 2015 FJ-09, but I bought it used in 2020 with about 1000 miles on it. So probably the original battery, and it started dying last year.
I guess ~5 years is a pretty typical life cycle for these batteries. Maybe even closer to 3 years in some circumstances.
@@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145 Yup, life cycle is has been about 4 years for me out in SoCal, and possibly shorter now that I'm out in the high desert. Appreciate your input - ride safe and keep both wheels on the ground!
Thank you for the video! I got my bike running now!
Is that AGV K3SV Rossi 2002 on the display?
I believe it is! Sharp eye. You must be a hardcore VR46 fan.
Ari Henning absolutely!
OMG..I saved saved "potentially" so much time jumping my bike. I bought a new battery like last month. Bike started dieing randomly in traffic situations. Usually in 2nd going about 45-60. The past 2 weeks, i've changed the spark plugs, tested the ignition, replaced the fuel pump, and fuel pump filter, the amount of labor into the bike thus far is timeless. Tonight, I decided to try to jump it. OMG.. worked. Didn't hold the charge but, she turned on!! Between the Sparkplugs and the battery... I had no juice and no spark, I was going nowhere. I have a '14 Suzuki GSX R750, the sparkplugs are literally in the middle of the bike under everything (fuel tank, air filter..ect)
This episode helped me big time today! Thanks!!
I'd recommend an Anti-Gravity PPS, a lot smaller than the Deltran. I have jumped several cars with it and fits in your pocket.
Was super pumped to go for a ride after being away from it for a while. Turned out I had left my lights on and it wouldn’t crank. Didn’t have jumper cables that day and was pissed off at first… but anyone else ever think that if something like this happens that it wasn’t meant to be? That somehow you staying home because the bike wouldn’t start cod possibly have saved you from a wreck? Idk but that thought made me less annoyed with the situation
-Thoughts for a video gents: How to install aux lamps set on a relay, and also how to do clutch adjustments
my honda sh50 city express year 2000, runs happy without battery in at all just cant run indicators and lights at same time had it over 18 years now still runs good.
The clearest explanation. +1 sub
What about the now apparently ‘old school’ cranking battery that usually lives on a battery tender in the depths of the garage/shed/workshop and is only ever wheeled out for the odd cold start morning or the ‘left the parking lights on’ excuse. Best use of a big old 12V lead brick there is. It may not start your car/truck but it will easily crank a wittle motorcycle engine.
well now i know what to do with my old Honda Rebel battery. Thanks!
Another method when you have no jumping cable and etc. Pull clutch, run like hell pushing the bike, quickly kick up to 3rd and 4th gear, let go of the clutch slowly about half or 3/4 and wrist the throttle. Easiest is going down the slope sitting on the bike with clutch pull, up to the stated gear at the precised speed, let go of the clutch slowly, when it starting to go alive then wrist the throttle to start. Works for me to ride back home and juice the battery overnight.
Very good explanaition.. but can the dead battery issue caused by the rectifier plug melting?
If your rectifier plug is melting, you definitely have an issue with your regulator not regulating, and that'll cook all sorts of stuff including your battery.
The negative pole of charger is attached on the battery or on the non painted metal piece of bike ? Thank you
2:01 He's totally wrong..I fried a bike's ignitor that I once owned by jumping it off with a car that was running..Do not..I repeat Do Not have the car/vehicle running while jumping your bike off...There are plenty of other sites that say the same thing.
Thank you so much for the jump start video. Was always worried I might fry my electronics in my bike. Not so much now.
Does a battery cut off switch helps reduce battery drainage when not riding the bike? (just like if it was disconnected?)
I do not ride one of my bike very often so its battery always go dead and is not quickly accessible, plus I don't have power for a battery tender.
It might help, but the brutal truth is that lead-acid batteries have a fairly high self-discharge rate, so even if it's disconnected it'll drain down over a few months. Get yourself a float charger and hook up a quick-connect pigtail so it's easy to use.
Ari Henning Yeah I already have a portable jumper and planned to hook UP a Quick connect plug :)
I ride the bike maybe twice a Month.
Do gel batteries hold up better over time?
If you have one of those old-school flooded (wet) lead-acid batteries, they all suck and will die far faster than more modern technologies like the "gel" batteries you mentioned. Get yourself a quality gel/AGM battery and keep it hooked up to a float charger that turns off once the battery is charged and it'll last you 5-8 years.
Ari Henning haha yeah this is exactly the battery I have (this bike is my old BMW café racer), I'll get a new agm battery like I have in my modern bike and try to ride it more often :)
I have no power outlet in my parking unfortunately.
Thanks for the help !
Since the battery of my Honda VTX 1300 is under my seat and not easily accessible, I installed a pigtail for easy connection to my Battery Tender trickle charger. Can I use that same pigtail to jumpstart the bike, say from another bike, car or jump pack? Will the pigtail wire handle it? Thanks
I bought a jump starter kit and a battery tender that is a charger and a maintainer. Comes with the cable So you're saying i can just use thr battery tender to jump it too?
Wow that Portable Power Pack have gone up in price since this video was made. Ari says that it cost 90 bucks but when using the provided link i go to one that cost 163 bucks.
Thanks for the instructions, would not have been able to sort my bike without this vid 👍🏼
I have jumped my bikes with an car. I don't start the car. It has always worked like a charm.
Yamaha scooter smax 2018, 150c [ it's same do or just plag or connecting battery from my truck to scooter & run??? 🧐🧐🧐
does this apply to an older bike?? I have a Honda rebel 250 1985
Thanks, I was wondering if I had to disconnect the leads to the battery, excellent a very easy process.
Hi, can we use the same heavy duty jumper cables (for car) to jump-start a bike?
Just be aware that jumping from a car battery can be bad for bike electrics and void warranties on ecu, battery and electrical bits. I’ve not had an issue when doing it in a pinch but I did have a warning light come until my next dealership service (when they told me the above info)
I had to use a portable power pack like you mentioned on my SV 650 Suzuki. The only pain was having to get to the battery for the jump start. You have to unscrew two panels two screws to get the seat out and lift a tray out. And by the time I got to the battery they’re all these parts hanging and screws on the floor. Is there a solution of getting some type of extension cable that can extend in the backseat and then connect the jumper cables there without having to remove all these parts to get to the battery?
That R3 I guees made in Indonesia since it use GS Astra as battery and that is very common in here...
Salam Dari Indonesia!
Hi my Honda Gl 150 , while starting the ignition key 🔑 the lights and battery goes down how to fix , I’ll apréciate your help my good friend
Excellent video, very helpful, thanks Ari, you the man!!
High there I'm just wondering if its safe to run a high performance ytz14s on a mt10 as the standard ytz10s struggle alot on these bikes
Good vid chaps, clear and easy to understand. Nice one.
Thanks Nigel, that's what we aim for.
I'm reading online that the black connector on the trickle charger is supposed to go on the bike frame (ie, a metallic grounded source) instead of the black lead on the battery. Y/N?
My suzuki sv650 was sitting for a while and I tried using the jump start method. The bike lights up and stuff but won't start. It makes a noise when I press the power ignition button. Please have you any advice to share!!
Awesome--soo, I had bike shops giving me bad information about jump starting a bike, but maybe I shouldn't be surprised
I can't find that Deltran portable battery charger any where. The link you provided doesn't work, and it's not on Amazon or Cycle Gear.
Having bump started a cruiser I wish bikes still had kickstarters as backups.
Will the junior battery tender work as well?
*you did not add the link to the Battery Tender by Deltran*
*i just push start the bike*
i have jumper cables but removed from car to save space, that battery pack is better cause sometimes you can't park directly in front of the a car that needs jumping
Is there a difference between standard battery charger cables and jump start cables? Can I turn the ignition on if I'm just using a standard battery charger pack with cables attached? Cheers
Great video, very helpful. Unfortunately that Deltran jump starter is $194 in the UK!!!!!
Mc garage on a roll!!
Does it make a difference if I remove the + cable from the bike battery first?
As soon as I do, the engine dies again.
I'll try again with your method.
Could you do a video on how to properly aim a headlight. I feel lile mine is never perfect and I'm constantly adjusting it.
Thanks!!
If you adjust your suspension from time to time consider doing the headlight aiming/adjusting deal at the same time too. Just something to keep in mind.
MR. Duffy put the bike well vertical (ask a friend to sit on it and hold it vertical) in front of a wall that is 10 meters far away. Measure the height of the bulb of the headlight.
Now measure the height of the top flat edge of the illuminated portion of the wall: it must be 90% of the bulb height. Refer to the pic
goo.gl/images/bWQmpd
That was the coolest video intro animation (the MC logo stopmotion) I've ever seen
I dont think its a stop motion. I think they shot the part where "Garage" is written, then erased it, shook the table in a certain fashion and recorded it becoming a mess.
Then they reversed that mess footage, stitched it with the writing footage and the whole thing looks like magic. Quite creative.
Hi i recently just bought a 2019 honda rebel 300 but haven't rode it since i got it which is probably about a month. Reason i didn't ride is cause i'm not fully licensed to ride one yet, but today when i cranked the ignition, it was very sluggish and made the same sound as you did in the beginning of the video. I did notice everything else was beginning to die, including the lights and signals etc... could it be that the bike was sitting in the dealership for a while and the battery just slowly dying? tonight i ordered a charger from Amazon, and i should get it tomorrow, so hopefully it just needed a simple charge.
@Dolan DeDock it worked great. All it needed was a charge. Thanks👍
Are there any differences, benefits, or issues with charging a bike, car, lawnmower, etc., with the battery IN circuit vs OUT of circuit? Does it make any difference? If I’m regularly using a Battery Tender, say, during winter months (any long period of down time), is it better to keep the battery out of/disconnected from the vehicle circuit, or is it the same as leaving it connected to the vehicle while charging?
Can you use this to jump Start lithium ion batteries in your bike or just lead-acid batteries?
Thanks for the help 😘
Do you recommend replacing a battery every few years as preventative maintenance, or do you keep going on the same battery until it goes bad? I've got a 2014 FZ-09 with the original battery. No issues so far, but I'm wondering when I should replace it.
Lester Marten The battery will go bad slowly if you don' discharge it completly very often.
I would only consider buying a new one if your bike doesn't hold the charge for a few weeks without riding.
If you are worried about one day not being able to start your bike I would rather invest in a charger/jumper cables.
I say every 4 years change it or when you notice your battery cant hold more than a 12.5v change when at full capacity
Iv'e had batteries last 10 years on many vehicles. Never let a lead acid battery go flat ever the acid is actually stronger when flat and there not designed to cycle like other batteries. Best tip is to always start engine first then turn on accessories/lights and at the end turn everything of and run for a bit for a bit to top the battery up a little. I know on some vehicles it's not possible but this helps the battery a fair bit.
Also lead acid only has >350 cycles use them wisely. Also when flat the acid can freeze at lower temperature fully charged there good for -55 degrees
Hello,
My hornet 600 (2005) has a dead battery. I can't charge the battery because the screws are messed up and I can't remove them. Tried to bump start it, but as she have the HISS system, I can't put 2nd gear and it doesn't work in neutral. I tried the bump start in a slightly inclined road, would I be able to bump start it in neutral if I manage to get the bike to a big inclination road?
Can u Pls do a video of backfire and after fire on engines due to aftermarket exhaust.. Do we really need to remap and change air filter after we install aftermarket exhaust.. What happens if we don't remap and change air filter.. Would be great if you guys explain this in a video..
That's a tricky one, because some bikes are fine with a pipe but most do need to be remapped b/c they run too lean and you risk overheating or poor running. But I'll add the topic to the list.
Ari Henning thanks for that.. I do understand what your Tellin.. But with so many myths and people talking about this issue, it's really difficult to know whats fact and what is not..
If I may ask, what city and state do you guys film in?
Ari, sometime you folks should do a vid on the proper way to do motorcycle coolant, from draining, flushing, re-filling, & bleeding the cooling system. I looked it up and dont believe you had done an mc garage on this topic yet. thanks!
Check out this vid. They did a coolant video
m.th-cam.com/video/Bt2eYZMlTFI/w-d-xo.html
When do I replace my Cush drive bushings ? As soon as there’s the slightest sprocket play or can I wait a bit longer?
Wait as long as you'd like, but I replace them as soon as there's play b/c it drives me nuts!
I have a kawasaki Vulcan 650s and it has a VTZ 10S battery. Can I replace it with a VTZ5s ?? I live in Thailand out in no where country side. And for the life of me I can't find any big motorcycle shops around. But there is a thousand scooter repair shops around.
Great video, any chance to show how to start the motorcycle in the cold weather around 5 degrees or under, I'm always struggling to start my bike during the temp is that low
Keep it in. A garage then use a heater. I lived in a sub level and bought a 50ft extension cord. And would take a smoke break while watching my bike and moderating the heater under the tarp facing the bike keeping it warm this helped
Thanks for the great video. Now we are starting to get lion batteries on bikes. My lion jump,starter says, "warning, in the instructions don't use on lion batteries" . What do you think
Can we use a car jump starter power net 600A for a bike??
1 question, if you had already bought a bew battery then it won't start, does it really need to jump start? Peaceee
As always another great video. Thumbs up guys.
I have brand new battery install on my 2004 RR . In the beginning it was good after a month I have to jump start the bike every time , I took the battery to the store where I pitched they recharge it and gave back and gain in beginning it was good now jump start again. I can’t go anywhere without jump start the bike. Looks soo dumb jump starting the bike
My batter tender has been on my bike for 24 hours (after a long trip yesterday back from Baja) thought it sounded weak at startup, it's now SOLID RED for 10 seconds, then 1 GREEN Flash, then Solid Red for another 10 seconds, then 1 Green Flash again like that on and one. ??? what is that???
Sir Is it advisable to put the gear on 3rd and push the bike to turn on? Tried it many times but not sure if it's safe.
Many thanks for this
u r the best bro, i have my first bike and you help me a lot... can you make a video with the things you have to do to mantenance, i mean a list or the primary things to do? thanks for your videos, and sorry for my inglish jajaja
Your owner's manual will have a complete list for your specific bike. I'd recommend reading that first and foremost.
Please make a video on preps for a long ride... tips ...
Nice, was worried about the car to motorcycle. Just bought a yamaha fz09 from snake river yamaha and o took it out to the mall for a few hours. Tried to turn it back on and the batter was dead..
2:00 and for that reason, I’m Out
-Barbra (Shark Tank) 😂
Push starting a high compression bike is tough but not impossible..... I had to use 3rd gear in my cbr 954
I recently had the pleasure of bumpstarting an FTR750... Talk about high compression!