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- Gaming company rivalries are tales as old as time.
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0:00 Intro
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5:37 Number 7
7:07 Number 6
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10:40 Number 4
12:03 Number 3
12:57 Number 2
15:33 Number 1 - เกม
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Wouldn't it be 20 game companies, since there have to be at least two to hate each other? 🤔
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"Ten times game companies hated each other"
yeh
@@BoondockGore 10 Game Companies That HATE EACH OTHER is the title tho
"10 examples of game companies hating each other."
Konami vs Capcom in the early 90s will always be my favorite... both sides cranking out left and right
I can picture Mega Man and Dracula sitting at the bar wondering just where did things go wrong.
I was born in 1993 so I know of none of this stuff haha
capcom = re
konami = sh
You know I've watched too much Gameranx when every time Falcon mentions Driver 3, in my mind I say "Drivethreeare" lmao
Yes. I also genuinely say Fant-four-stic now after hearing it so many times
Why? Is it that hard to understand?
I see it and read it as Driver, how it was obviously meant. Falcon is stretching that complaint.
How about Jake saying F three are instead of fear 3 🤣🤣🤣
Or pronounces iteration weird
Be Gaben
"Does nothing and prints money"
"Competition constantly shoot themselves in the foot and blames steam"
Don't think the competition have ever blamed Valve for anything in terms of their success.
@@NichHustlerdo you work for EGS, is that why you're under every single steam comment leaving snarky replies?
Nothing? Look at steam update history. Look at when EGS launched. See how many features steam added or improved only a few years after EGS. I don't understand how people can just straight out ignore that EGS is competition and competition is good no matter how much you hate the competitor.
Steam Family Link beta is goated rn. EGS doesn't come close to anything Steam offers in terms of service to gamers aside from free weekly games (which are cool but doesn't really make me want to use their platform aside from logging in once a week).
@@user-vg6qv5jv3w When did Valve not add to and improve features for steam tho?
That got nothing to do with rivalry, they've constantly been doing that.
Yo. I'm happy you initially recognized publicly that you didn't know the word, took criticism well, adapted with it, then recognized your source. That's the true public callout in that story.
10/10
etiquette is for the birds .
Next we'll teach him how to pronounce it 😂
The worst part is that Shadow of Mordor/War pretty much took Rocksteady's combat system full hog. Same button to counter, a little glowing things about enemy heads for the timing, the exact same button combinations for instant kills... I didn't need much practice with the shadow games because i played so much Arkham Asylum and City.
Well at the time they had to take Rocksteady's system, cause WB owned the rights to it... to cover up the fact they stole Assassin's Creed system.
An Assassin's Creed II developer (former Ubisoft at the time) saw an early build of the game and claimed that his code for character movement was plagerised or mimiced in its entirety, which included running, attack and even terrain assets to allow rope running and air assassinations... then it was complete radio silence from WB, until later flat-out denied it but only after they showed the newest version with the Rocksteady system and new body animations were used to replace the previous sets.
@@boxhead6177 still Shadow of Mordor/War was way better than any Assassins creed combat.
Assassin's creed tried to rip off the Arkham style combat too but they made it boring.
Assassin's creed wishes and of it's combat was even a quater of what Shadow of Mordor games are.
They could have easily adopted Shadow of Mordor's style for fantasy Assassin's creed(which is great at stealth and combat) but instead they took only what was flashy(e.g. like Odyssey and Valhalla's teleport stealth strikes)
@@caliburn1123 assassins creed had the arkham style first. They introduced it in ac brotherhood which came out a year before arkham asylum
Nah, Tim Sweeney talking about corporate greed is HILARIOUS. So funny because my games Home Screen is cut in half by an X men collaboration.
What game?
@@user-vg6qv5jv3whe wasn’t talking to you as the gamer he was talking to the developers of these games because let’s be honest no one makes a good game and doesn’t want to be compensated. He just said hey if your game is as good as you say come get paid over here I only take 12% not a quarter of your earnings
Epic takes 12 Steam takes 30, 12 is less than half of 30. This is what happens when you cheat your way through education.
@@Daddy-dh4lf Sooner or later timmy will have to take a bigger piece of the pie, his store has been propped up by fortnite cash and that bubble has pretty much burst
@@andybrown4284 That money is paying for the weekly free games. I doubt they'd lose money from the store if they didn't give games away, although of course they'd have to forget about their intention of competing with Steam.
Also, Embracer and every company acquired by Embracer.
Yup that set us back decade
More like the world vs embracer.
They are the definition of a costume villian existing solely to destroy.
@@honaleri like Disney.
Idk HOW they weren't liable for some kind of prosecution
The thing that really irks me about that is the rumour Eidos was working on a new Deus Ex game to rival Cyberpunk. We know they were working on A DX game, but it got cancelled as a result of the recent turmoil.
Great video. You guys should do “like each other” next because insomniac and naughty dog are just wonderful, and I love how their friendship started
Honestly, if Obsidian could make the story, dialogue, and RPG systems then have Bethesda build the world and art design and some of the studio for combat and you would have a perfect game. I am in the Obsidian boat, but I like the Bethesda games as well.
New Vegas with Fallout 4 combat would be beautiful
@@coryiversen8986a Fallout game with the vibes and atmosphere of 3, writing and roleplaying elements of NV and combat/gameplay of 4. I would never see the sun again.
Epic Store vs Steam is like saying you want to compare s**t with chocolate. Years and years later and they still don't have a review system or other features Steam offers. They can hand out free games all they want and cut better deals than Valve, but they'll never be Steam.
Agreed. Ide honestly rather pay for a game to have it on steam then get it for free on epic, same goes for the year exclusives that only come to steam after the year is over. Would rather wait a year, then get it on epic. That's how petty i am when it comes to Epic and their trash store
@@aidansamuel7676 Let's be petty together. I'd also wait a year than buy on Epic Store.
@@zahreel3103 Games I buy on Epic always seem to be broken, too. And if I want to mod/fix them, Epic seems to be harder to do that with. I will always be praying for Epic's downfall, lol. Steam has always worked just fine. The only other game launcher I will go to bat for is GOG, Epic can piss right off, lol.
Yeah those of us that use EGS often don't want it to come with all the bloat and nonsense that is Steam. We don't want EGS just copying Valve, that would such a waste. It's a nice lite launcher that just gets out of the way and isn't filled up with a while bunch of features that people rather go to other places for anyway.
Did they ever add a shopping cart to the epic storefront?
Epic is acting more monopolic way than Valve
Like buying studios and publishing rights to games to make them exclusive. Valve would never do that as it goes against Gabe's values. Epic games is a public company mainly owned by the CCP (Chinese government). Valve is a private company owned and run by Gabe Newell, his core values have always lined up with gamers. I'm very scared of the day he steps down, and I hope he can find a worthy successor.
I LOVED True Crime: Streets of LA. “ahh diggity damn! I got to go!”
"It's DIMSUM time!"
Seeing Sonic's shoes by the trash can in Crash bandicoot was op.
as a Rockstar fan, I defend Sleeping Dogs, it's a funny, good looking, and well done game with its own identity, too sad that maybe we won't get to see more from Sleeping Dogs.
I had way more fun with Sleeping Dogs than I did with GTA 4 or 5.
Sleeping Dogs is a better story, with better combat, with better DRIVING, in a more interesting location.
@@Laneous14 dude, the combat, indeed, way more elaborated
Defend it from what? As far as I know it’s universally praised by those who have played it.
@@singleplayermoments it's a saying... I was speaking figuratively, not literally.
true, kinda weird how sometimes there's a game coming out that everyone just loves but yet you never see a sequel being made, then again it's also better to stop while being ahead instead of crashing to the wall at full speed.
Lmao, "but there is one thing that game companies hate more than the consumer," so true!
CDPR went from having a cheeky Easter egg in Witcher 2 to being Ubisoft's arch-nemesis.
At least CDPR makes good games
@@CWTheArtist and DRM-free too
@@chickendrawsdogs3343 And they bothered to fix Cyberpunk 2077. I don't see Ubi doing that to their games
@CWTheArtist No they do not, 2077 still is ass
@@deathtrooper2048 2077 made 750m on their dlc release and is universally loved currently at least they stayed and fixed their game unlike ubisoft which hasn't made a decent game since 2013
Gabe from Value is just laughing.
Also, wouldn't GOG be the real rival to Steam? Except for Fortnite, NO ONE would have Epic games on their computer, but GOG has been a thing for a very long time and wasn't dependent on Witcher 3.
GoG doesnt compare to steams ecosystem. It's just a digital store front despite their relatively recent efforts to be more. @@Laneous14
value lol
Is this Temu Gabe you're referring to?
@Laneous14 that's what i think. I actually prefer GOG over steam so if a game i want i releases on both i always go with GOG. Just better in most ways to me
Excellent video topic.
So interesting!
Driver "Tutorial" was sooo difficult when I was a kid. I was ecstatic when I beat it finally.
Almost 8M now, keep it up Gameranx!
did not know alot of this
Thank you !
Can you make a part 2?
Amiga Vs Atari ST
Those were wild days :)
12:58 - Don't forget Timmy Vermicelli with his armbands in Driv-Three-r!
i found that one hilarious. swimming with his pool arm floaties on hahaha. hated how water killed you in early gta's
Hey Falcon, great video again. Wow 2 videos today though or did you guys schedule has kinda changed? 🤔
You absolutely finished this beautifully - exceptional.
😭😭😭 OMG I HAVE TO GO BACK AND WATCH THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN...
had no idea topic material (thought some government lake conspiracy with a lab underneath or something)
had no idea topic material (thought some government lake conspiracy with a lab underneath or something)
One of the reasons why I love Gameranx. Just Top Notch lists
That's the kind of video I love this channel for
Companies I hate because they hate their own customers : Rockstar, Nintendo, TakeTwo, Activision, Konami, Blizzard and EA...
I love Rockstars games but I really hate how they treat PC gamers.. They literally treat us all like we are scum😅
I can’t believe that the makers of drive-three-r were ever considered a threat to Rockstar. On the other hand they seem to make fun of everyone, so I guess it’s not surprising. 😆
Great idea, GREAT opening!
I was about to comment about BGS vs Obsidian but looks like you said it all well enough
The whole “Bethesda v obsidian” thing is even more interesting after what Todd Howard was saying regarding other developers working on their IPs
But is that Bethesda talking... or Todd himself. I don't think this is Bethesda vs Obsidian, after all Bethesda is suppose to be part of the big XBox Family now.
I think this is just Todd vs Obsidian. Its Todd's games, each locked in development hell cause he micromanages everything himself, and that a studio put out a better game in shorter time than him, really hurt him personally.
Unity (the game engine company) has to be one of the most hated companies by F'ing over so many indie devs. Or at least their CEO, John Riccitiello, is one of the most disliked CEOs. (the "charge players a dollar per clip" guy)
Nemesis system wasn't copyright'd, it was patented, which means it covers the concept, not the code.
I remember alot of those games and now seeing they had alot of meaning behind them is crazy.
I never knew gaming companies were beefing like this 😂 that’s awesome
i love the gameranx videos i have been watching forever and this is one of the better videos you guys have posted. I learned a lot and it was super informative and the editingh was great
Solution: Company Deathmatch
Nemesis system is patented not copyrighted and is absolutely enforceable.
It’s not the code but the concept itself that is protected by the patent.
I was actually interested when I first heard about Fortnight as a co-op horde shooter. Not only did I lose interest when the battle royale spinoff became the whole game, I was successfully gaslit into believing the base building horde shooter was something from a quirky dream I had rather than an actual article I'd read, for almost a decade.
I love these videos because I learn things about the creators of some of my favorite games but I was not expecting the brutality of “the poster child for failing upwards”. Falcon the sniper.
Tim Sweeney is a comedian.
EGS has barebones functionality. Let's see the platform rival Steam in terms of features and then we'll talk about how much is fair to take from game sales.
I’ve lived 30 odd years in between Dundee and Newcastle in a little place called Edinburgh, and I can’t say I’ve ever heard of a rivalry between those two cities… 🤔
What I love about Fortnite is that Save the World is kinda like the prologue to the story of the Battle Royale mode. Everything in Save the World is still canon to the story of Fortnite and happened before all this got started. They could have easily scrapped it and said "Nah, that's been retconned."
When I was a school kid (some time ago) it was the ZX Spectrum owners Vs the Commodore 64 owners. A bitter rivalry. I think the C64 owners were the pre-PC Masterrace people.
Fun Video, agree with a lot of the points
I liked the true crime and driver series, they were kind of their own thing and should have leaned more into their roles, true crime being a cop set in a open world with cool fighting/shooting mechanics ) and driver being more focused on really good driving mechanics and interesting vehicle choices. but at the end of the day money talks and Rockstar nailed their series out of the park.
The sequel titled "True Crime: New York City" in my opinion was much better than True Crime: Streets Of LA. True Crime: New York City is one of my favorite old school games. And it was really good to see Sleeping Dogs get a mention. I just feel that game is so underrated and deserves more praise and recognition than it gets.
So thank you for giving it a mention. 👍
Wei would be proud.
Never thought I'd hear falcon say dundee feels special
A lot of people forget that PUBG is the OG battle royal. The crator first made a mod for arma 3 that brought battle royal. From there he created PUBG.
Please correct me if I'm wrong. But honestly, arma mods spawned games like DayZ and PUBG. The modding community is the true hero in gaming.
Tim Sweeny being bamboozleled that steam takes 30% cut and still wins while doing absolutely nothing to improve epic store front is just such a laugh, he doesn't want to compete he just wants everyone else to fail
One hit wonder. Fortnite being a smash hit is the only reason the epic store even exists. And it’s shite. Valve till I drop dead
Sony and Nintendo briefly acknowledged each other when Reggie Fils-Aimé, Phil Spencer, and Shawn Layden shared the stage at The Game Awards once.
Falcon’s voice does something to my
The Nintendo backstabbing of 91 is always an interesting story, them literally creating a monster. Nintendo must’ve felt like fools especially after the Philips failure and the complete domination of PlayStation for 2 generations, the entirety of 2000’s. There’s so many iconic PS games we probably wouldn’t have gotten if Nintendo didn’t backstab Sony.
Nintendo never learns and they are extremely petty. Give me back the Garry's Mods mods.
@@dansmith1661 Haven't people already figured it was a copyright troll? Like why wait 20 years to pull the trigger, or issue the takedown through an email company they never used before from Denmark when they have two legal emails of their own
Way to capitalize on the Drake beef! Awesome video
Always happy to see Dundee get a name check. For a city of just under 150k people we did some great things in the video game world! ❤
Missed out on the 3D Realms vs Gearbox situation with Duke Nukem. Randy...
I think the nemesis system being copyrighted worked only as an exception since, as far as I'm aware, no other game was doing anything even remotely close to that anyway. If anyone were to have any plans for a nemesis system it would just be other AAA games, which they already weren't doing. It's not like it snuffed out any indie projects either. I think that's the only reason the copyright was allowed.
Of all the games that leeched off each other for decades, brown/gray everything, regen health, bleeding eyes vision... It had to be a great system everyone wants more of.
Only thing close I can think of would be AC Odyssey with the mercenary system.
Like other point out , Nemesis system is patented not copyrighted, but also concept if it’s articulated in a way that is non-obvious can be patented , the two known examples are the Namco’s loading screen mini games patent(that’s why for a long long time you don’t see mini games in loading screen) and Sega’s Crazy Taxi parent, so yes even though is ridiculously, company can patent game concepts
You forgot about Konami vs Kojima production.......
Kojima vs budget/development time
The reason the epic games store can't topple steam is because steam has exposure, and a standing, loyal fanbase. If they can figure out how to pass games down to family members, then we'll really be talking.
I played the Driver series and I loved them. Never played Driv3r though I will say... Or maybe I did? It was a long time ago and some things of my past are fuzzy.
7:32 Streets of LA was campy fun. I loved it and wish it managed to continue. Especially after Sleeping Dogs
I honestly don't get why a Nemesis system type hasn't been used in other games. It's such a cool concept
0:50 This is a classic “Top 10 Anime Betrayals” entry
The PUBG drama, if I remember correctly, came from, Epic helped the Dev with PUBG, saw it was popular and decided to "borrow" basically the entire concept and put it into the engine of their horde survival game. (Which I was personally waiting for, ha ha) Then when promoting it, basically said "It's PUBG where you can build stuff."
Regarding the Nemesis System, an indie game called Star Renegades uses a very similar concept, I don't know how they implemented it tho. They prolly won't get sued because it's a small indie game, but at least it exists.
One thing for sure, forget to conquer Valve. It's freaking old company with great games. And they never lost. After they joined with Steam, you can overcome those companies.
The epic games and steam rivalry, reminds me of 2 nerds arguing about which Texas instrument graphic calculator is better..
Any tips to improving a small gaming channel?
Be Creative.Don't be annoyed or ashamed to see your videos comments,also try to know and understand your audiance.Finally DON"T GIVE UP....GOOD LUCK!!!!
Im still salty about tne nemesis system. One of the best things to come out of games in the last decade
BioWare vs. Larian Studios, the latter of which is what BioWare should have been post-Dragon Age: Origins.
"Ps5 is for the hardcores" is probably the most Falcon thing I've ever heard Falcon say...
Origin vs Electronc Arts. This is THE hatred.
What about Marvel and Capcom? MvC Infinite literally ended their relationship, their games pioneered back in the 90s.
Marvel is not a game company though…
I'd say, in terms of a company trying to buy out another, that Vivendi going hard after Ubisoft was memorable. They were pretty aggressive for years, and it only ended after they got Tencent to take in some of those shares. Now you have them doing increases in stock as well, up to 10%.
Wait. Tencent is short for Tenpercent. Man, Ubisoft should've seen that coming.
With how many times Todd Howard mentions Blizzard in his speeches, I'm surprised Bethesda vs Blizzard wasn't mentioned.
With how much Todd endorses obsidian it's odd for Bethesda vs obsidian being an entry here.
The fans are more rivals than the companies.
@@Verchiel_ because Todd Howard has a reputation of being truthful, right? Because he totally isn't a scumball who has lied to fans for over a decade, acted like your typical douche CEO when it came to Xbox buying them, totally didn't act like a tool over the very valid criticism that Starfield and Fallout 76 got, and totally wouldn't tongue in cheek diss Obsidian while winking at Bethesda fans with a "See guys, I actually like their games!". You act like he's Phil Spencer who genuinely doesn't hate PlayStation and has said several times he has always loved their consoles, has owned every one they released, and strives to make Xbox be as good as PlayStation not out of wanting to beat them but out of respect for them.
@@clovisursa497 is this a copypasta?
@@raypalmer5125 I’ll copy your pasta
@@Verchiel_Yeah, like, even Chris Avellone and Josh Sawyer debunked the stupid "Beth vs Obsidian" thing, so the lie still being perpetuated is kinda just... cringe.
Falcon gets more righteously angry with every year and I'm very much here for it. Love that lad. I mean bird. I mean...
This feels inspired by the Kendrick drake beef lol
I'd bet they all have a secret burning hate for Arrowhead, and it's growing success, given its lack of greed that consumes the rest of them, all the while making their fan base incredibly grateful. Just a hunch...
Awesome video
My steam account was created 3 days after steam released to the public. Steam was viewed as a PITA to the CS community but they really did it justice and that was one of the best times I ever had in my life.
I've owned both Sony and Nintendo consoles together since the PS1 launched in 1995. I've never come home to find the two electronic boxes duking it out in my living room. They're just sitting on their shelves, waiting for me to play the incredible games that are available for each platform.
10 pairs of games companies…
For how many great videos these guys put out, a miswording is easily forgiven. 🤙🏼
Fallout 4 was the first Fallout game I played and to this day I enjoy it immensely.
It's always interesting how everyone has developed amnesia about how Rockstar STOLE its GTA "formula" from SEGA's game creator Yu Suzuki's original Shenmue. Before Shenmue, GTA was simply a top down game with GTA 2. Rockstar's GTA 3 was a rip off of HIS formula. BEFORE Shennue, there was NO game featuring the entering of multiple buildings, dynamic weather, day and night cycles, NPCs having their own schedule, businesses in games having business hours, QTEs! ALL of Rockstar's "formula" was STOLEN from the mind of Yu Suzuki and Shenmue!
18:02 yeah you’re not wrong, the best thing done to a fallout game was the ammo crafting, that said fallout 76 is like a prime example of what kinds of features need to be in a main fallout game.. and a prime example of what features need to be left in an online game. I want to craft, and I like the camp building, I don’t like always needing to be online or paying to not be.
Blizzard vs. THEMSELVES
tim sweeney is almost the sole reason not to buy with epic store...
Me and my dad loved driver lmao it’s the only reason I got into gta . Driver 3 was so good tbh, I really liked it more than vice city and I LOVED vice city.
If driver 3 had a lil more love from the devs it would’ve been the best
The Epic store and Steam rivalry is comparable to the Speed O Sound Sonic and Saitama rivalry. As in the former is unbelievably inferior in every way and widely disliked despite trying to buy loyalty.
great video.
Yes, I saw when that guy commented at Falcon, saying the word is quintuple.
Pretty sure Bloober also got a copyright for the dual screen thing from Medium
Konami and kojima production can also be considered as enemies if we remember their history
I had no clue about the driver GTA rivalry and mainer both series' 😂😂😂
9:43 The copyright of a software function IMHO should not be allowed. I'm a software developer (business not games) and I think this goes for most IP as well. As in that ideas are never original and are definitely not proprietary. Since every idea you have someone else has already had that idea before or that your idea will be largely based on a pre-existing concept or idea that someone else has had. Your ideas are a product of your environment and your teaching. Generally you observe something or are told something that gives you an idea.
On the other hand how you implement that idea can and probably should be proprietary and copyrightable. Concept Vs Practically Implementation.
Unfortunately there are many examples in software where concepts or ideas are so basic they are clearly not original. Such as raster scanning, or one click purchasing. Yet are considered to be implementation of a concept aka algorithm and have been classed as IP.
I think definitely with software where the barrier to entry is so low and the up front costs of inventing or creating an implementation of an idea is minimal then IP just stifles creativity. It's primarily used as a way to control competition.
Man I used to love true crime streets of LA - was such a funny game
video idea for ya indie developers who's games blew up and what there up to now
The console version of Diablo 3 has a watered down nemesis mechanic, except the enemy gets stronger when you die and either hunts you or someone on your friends list who is online