Honestly normally I'd agree, I always say "coney has the best content and the worst takes on the internet", but I have to diagree here. Aside fromnever playing pvz, which is a disgrace, I agree with most of the takes in this video... although that may be because I've only heard of/played like half of these games so i can't get upset over slay the spire or katana zero
Smash player opinions, why do you think they soy ult for some random ass character they saw when they were 8 and then hate on a popularly desired character. The scope of their mind is what they have directly experienced.
I’d say he’s trueing for a good chunk of this list but a few picks are really strange like Ori. Also, Among Us not being in culture defining is the worst take I’ve ever heard
@@Connor_Kirkpatrick agreed on Among Us. No game has taken over gaming and non-gamers alike in a way that hadn’t been matched since Pokémon Go. If that isn’t culture defining, I don’t know what is, lol
@ModernMeta I wouldn't say Among Us was 'Culture Defining" by a large margin. And my main point to back that up is who even cares or watches Among Us anymore? It was just THE game for a few months, not even close to the same level or staying power as Minecraft, FNAF, Undertale, etc.
@@caw64 you say that, but anytime anyone sees anything remotely resembling a rectangle within another rectangle, or so much as mentions the word “suspicion,” or names the genre “social deduction game,” 9 times out of 10 the default name that pops up in anyone’s head is Among Us
How am I going to find time for that when I should be typing MORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPls?
IDK how you can even be mad at a Coney tierlist since he has to explain his reasoning so thoroughly that every game ends up in its own tier so nothing is really said
That's fair but like katana zero is a horrible take in my opinion. If you hate the dialogue you literally get to skip past it all by screaming at people canonically
@Ryuko its not deep, its just a nice mystery/thriller plot about time soldiers who were used by the government and then thrown out onto the streets with a debilitating addiction. the most layer you could peel off is thats how most govts treat their vets, but it's just a cool story overall. base game has a nice payoff but i could see people getting upset upon finding out that theres a true ending you get by pissing off your handler.
eh idk, PvZ is fun for a bit but it's basically a glorified idle-clicker right? Collect suns, build to the optimal line-up, wait until level finishes rinse and repeat for a few hours
As someone who loves both of the Ori games you are 100% valid for shitting on Blind Forest for its combat, especially if you played it on hard. It’s just mashing one button on a enemy until they die and if they jump at you, use Bash. That being said, saying people like it only for its visuals is a hell of an understatement. That game’s platforming is super sick and it’s story is also pretty good.
The combat to me felt great, I loved shooting the thing and ground slamming and dashing with an enemy. The combat is certainly better in the second but but I still found the combat fun.
I found the combat actually weirdly smart. The game had more of an emphasis on platforming so i believe that the combat was made intentionally that way as now instead of wat moves do i have to use it's more focused on your movement to win fights. My opinion though and i did play on normal in contrast to coney
@@harvesterman5210 the problem with the combat for me is the attack itself. It’s a weak, homing projectile that you have to spam mindlessly and constantly to kill anything. It’s just not satisfying to use. While moving around with your abilities to avoid enemies is fun and is the one good part of the combat, I feel like you can accomplish that kind of thing while also having an attack that’s satisfying to use.
I think I just had a problem with Ori specifically and I don’t know why, I did fine with other metroidvanias like hollow knight and Metroid dread but I got lost in Ori, looked up a guide and still couldn’t figure out what to do :/
You know at this point I don’t care about coneys opinion, either way, I’m gonna have a damn blast watching him argue with chat and if the content is good then isn’t that a win for all?
@@nikodemsulowski9625 for ori DEFINITELY I don’t think the combat is that good, but exploring was still fun so I think it’s 50/50 BUT MY HEART WILL ALWAYS BE WITH KATANA ZERO… although I do wish the ending was different- wait I’m agreeing with him-
I like how even with the bias of "hey this is just the personal opinion of the person making it and everyone has their own unique tastes" Coney manages to make unforgivably horrible tier lists that just happen to be seeded with a few softball picks
Cuphead (imo) is its own beast from an artistic perspective, because let's frame it like this: Before Cuphead: Rubberhose Animation was as dead as a doornail But after Cuphead, not only did people try to draw in "Cuphead style" (which is actually just rubberhose animation), but fans are stoked for Cuphead DLC, and were angry that the Cuphead Show didn't have that exact style of animation. Here's a good spot to mention that one Cuphead ripoff game that almost came out, because being Cuphead was the most marketable way that people (who are and are not artists together) found that as the best way to make money. Those madlads at Studio MDHR literally resurrected a dead artform as much as one can be revived (it'll never be #1 because it's too time consuming to make). From just one game? They KILLED it. I have *daydreams* of being able to bring from the grave my niche favorite artforms as efficiently as those devs brought back theirs. As a game? Pretty good, too tough for my lame gamer skills. But as art? Consider the passage above
The only thing I really have grounds to hard disagree on is that Journey was just good for its time. I played it for the first time last year and I enjoyed it. I could probably concede that I didn't enjoy it to the level that people did back in the day, but the connotations associated with "good for the time" don't feel warranted in Journey's case.
No matter what you think of any of the games on here, it's still amazing how so many people were able to make much smaller games on their own and have them succeed
Im convinced coney doesnt know how tier lists work at some point he's going to make a tier list where he has a separate tier for every single thing in the tier list
Coney you should honestly give Ori 2 a try. They toned down a lot of the cheap deaths and amped up the platforming and combat tenfold. It turned out to be one of the best platformers I’ve played after not loving the first one at all
I have to disagree with coney on night in the woods. I can agree that it's kinda hipster bait but he got the plot completely backwards. Mae doesn't want more out of life and that's her main problem. Everything around her is changing and her friends are going on to do bigger things while she stays the same. I actually like the slice of life aspect more and the secret cult stuff kinda throws me off.
@@samdilophosaur9787 To me the dialogue felt appropriate. Yeah, there were times I was cringing out of my skull, but that’s because our focal character is a douchebag with a very clearly untreated psychotic disorder, the conversations she’s going to lead with people aren’t going to be the creme de la creme of interpersonal interactions. Maybe at times the overall dialogues are trying too hard to be quirky, but the characters are not entirely insufferable, even the more douchey ones like Mae and arguably Gregg. I’m in my twenties and I know people IRL that talk and act in a similar way to some of the characters, it isn’t all unrealistic.
What’s funny is that he unconsciously called himself a hipster because he admitted to being really excited to play NITW when it first released. But yeah I agree he got it wrong. NITW is very good but it’s obviously not Coney’s thing, considering how he sent other games on this list to the shadow realm for the long cutscenes and NITW is essentially a visual novel you can walk around in.
I loooooooove NITW but I totally understand why it won't vibe with some people I think the one thing I would change is not having a choice between Gregg or Bea and instead just have you go through both routes. It's kind of important to get to know both of them but you can only pick one
I find it rather funny how Coney just decided to save Lisa for last as the chat in the background is just Terry. Maybe it’s because I don’t see this game in the wild that much.
Whenever I first saw the list I had questioned it, but after watching the video recap it makes a lot more sense and makes me appreciate the work you put into it.
The fact that I can watch this entire video, even though I've only played about five of these games, and he roasted the two of them which I really love, speaks to how entertaining and captivating Coney really is. Thanks for the content, and keep up the great work
Is NO ONE IN THE COMMENTS Going to talk about how ACTUALLY HILARIOUS THIS VIDEO IS? (like in a good way not insulting) THIS IS LIKE THE NEW Joe And Pat's review level of I'm Dying Of Laughter 🤣
I don't even need to finish the video, Coney gets a -100 for daring to call Iconoclasts boring. His blood must be blue. Nice vid tho. Making the whole world mad, lmao. Actually pretty brave
The first half is boring but then shit hits the fan really fast and takes the game from boring to amazing in two seconds. It’s such a shame that there’s like 6 hours of what feels like filler before it
I mean when you think of metroidvanias combat is usually a decent part of it, and I think you coul be successful in making a metroidvania without combat, but having the combat be just pressing one button that locks on to the enemy is not as fun as a well developped combat system which is a big difference between ori 1 and 2
I saw this list on twitter and honestly for the most part I think it's pretty solid. I understand not vibing with Night in the Woods although that personally one of my most favorite indie games ever and was easily my GOTY the year it came out. The only odd one to me are the Ori games. I'm always surprised when people don't like the Ori games because for me they're two of the best platformers ever made. Up there with DKC: Tropical Freeze, Celeste and Yoshi's Island
Okay what was good to you about night in the woods? It was infuriating to me. I am genuinely curious because I just don’t know what people enjoyed about it and I’d like to see their perspective
As someone who is not picky in the slightest when it comes to games I am extremely grateful I can enjoy almost any game. Whether it's because it has a good art style or story or whether it has fun gameplay or concepts. Either way glad I'm not old like Coney and can still find enjoyment in things.
Im gonna be 100% honest, this was the worst tier list I have ever witnessed ever being conceived. Not even because of Coney’s opinion on each game because I expect it to be bad already, but specifically because of how much of an identity crisis this tier list had between it being Coney’s actual personal opinion and rating each game’s influence on public masses and video game culture. It was sad to watch him downplay his own favorites in favor of other games because they’re less niche or whatever.
Wait… this is an indie game tier list, no? W-where is Cave Story on this list? Did he skip by it in the “never played”? I feel like it belongs at the top of any list just out of respect, lol.
I thought the list was gonna be 'most of these suck except for these really good ones', but aside from the list being a mess organization-wise, most of time Coney was either spitting facts or clearly saying when something didn't match his tastes
Huh maybe that's why I (someone I think like 2 years older than Coney) actually thought he was pretty accurate lmao. Though I also have played probably less than half of the games he had played.
Cuphead should've been on truly brilliant tier the game is hand drawn which animation takes long asf and Cuphead really felt like you were playing a 1930's cartoon.
Honestly I feel like Hat in Time would be considered pinnacle of its genre if Mario Odyssey about the same time as Hat in Time did. Because Mario Odyssey is one of the very, very few games of its genre to beat it out today.
Putting Little Nightmares 2 so far below Little Nightmares 1 is utterly insane to me. Honestly they're equal as far as I'm concerned, and both Top 10 games of all time. Can't wait for the third!
I got truly excited in the first few seconds after learning what the video would be about! I was not dissapointed, you seemed very passionate about this subject!
Did I see pvz in there? Pvz should be unique ideas nailed to perfection. I enjoy pvz 2 and all of the spinoffs so much, heck, gw2 is my 3rd favourite game ever and the most fun I have ever had with a game, but you can always argue how good these are. But we can at least all agree that the original pvz is a flawless fucking masterpiece!
"My Problem with pyre is that the accual combat sucked"same for xenoblade 1 for me. Xenoblade 2 has such a good combat System, and going back to 1 from that was pretty painful. The story and characters are great but the combat in 2 is so much more fun! Well, it looks like 3's system is gonna be a fusion of 1 and 2 so we'll see how it turns out
Coney has an incredible ability to conceive the most infuriating takes on anything imaginable lol
I’ve been thinking this for years now, thank god someone else gets it
To be home I think in this isntance it's fine because this is all opinion tbh
I think it’s the confidence he says it with
Its all on purpose. FOR SURE - Coney
Honestly normally I'd agree, I always say "coney has the best content and the worst takes on the internet", but I have to diagree here. Aside fromnever playing pvz, which is a disgrace, I agree with most of the takes in this video... although that may be because I've only heard of/played like half of these games so i can't get upset over slay the spire or katana zero
Chat: “Minecraft was culture defining”
Coney: “Yeah but to me it wasn’t”
Coney moment
Smash player opinions, why do you think they soy ult for some random ass character they saw when they were 8 and then hate on a popularly desired character. The scope of their mind is what they have directly experienced.
@@mattsmith457 soy ult??
@@qrks4482 like a final smash but for soy boys
He's the one making the tier list that's how it works :)
Coney is a genius actually the worse the tierlist the more engagements on his video
I’d say he’s trueing for a good chunk of this list but a few picks are really strange like Ori. Also, Among Us not being in culture defining is the worst take I’ve ever heard
@@Connor_Kirkpatrick agreed on Among Us. No game has taken over gaming and non-gamers alike in a way that hadn’t been matched since Pokémon Go. If that isn’t culture defining, I don’t know what is, lol
I think this is the only reason why he makes these videos really, that and to just be an annoying troll.
@ModernMeta I wouldn't say Among Us was 'Culture Defining" by a large margin. And my main point to back that up is who even cares or watches Among Us anymore? It was just THE game for a few months, not even close to the same level or staying power as Minecraft, FNAF, Undertale, etc.
@@caw64 you say that, but anytime anyone sees anything remotely resembling a rectangle within another rectangle, or so much as mentions the word “suspicion,” or names the genre “social deduction game,” 9 times out of 10 the default name that pops up in anyone’s head is Among Us
new drinking game: take a shot every time coney says “i hate to do it” / adds a new tier
I don't want die yet
How am I going to find time for that when I should be typing MORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPlsMORETIERSSkeletonPls?
He really hates to do it
YOU WILL DIE
My liver will fail and I will die
IDK how you can even be mad at a Coney tierlist since he has to explain his reasoning so thoroughly that every game ends up in its own tier so nothing is really said
That's fair but like katana zero is a horrible take in my opinion. If you hate the dialogue you literally get to skip past it all by screaming at people canonically
It's because people view the annoying clickbait thumbnail+title and base their thought on that.
Coney adding a tier for hyper specific categories that only include 1-2 games is making me lose it
YOOOOOOOP
to be fair where do you rank helltaker besides Porn
@@gamer-hl4cp culture defining
@@GT-xw7rg that existed before helltaker
"Katana zero has too many cutscenes, anyways, Furi is a fantastic game"
holy shit this is so true
@B Chu Can't the same be said for furi though
@Ryuko its not deep, its just a nice mystery/thriller plot about time soldiers who were used by the government and then thrown out onto the streets with a debilitating addiction. the most layer you could peel off is thats how most govts treat their vets, but it's just a cool story overall. base game has a nice payoff but i could see people getting upset upon finding out that theres a true ending you get by pissing off your handler.
@Ryuko that said, i dont think coney played the game long or well enough to even enjoy the story.
plants vs zombies is a very coney game i genuinely think he’d enjoy it
Wait, he’s never played PvZ
Was gonna comment that I’d love to see Coney play PVZ1 I think he’d enjoy it
it's really fun too
the composer is also very cool
eh idk, PvZ is fun for a bit but it's basically a glorified idle-clicker right? Collect suns, build to the optimal line-up, wait until level finishes rinse and repeat for a few hours
“we’re gonna make this quick” proceeds to add 1 tier to the list for every individual game
hate to do it
As someone who loves both of the Ori games you are 100% valid for shitting on Blind Forest for its combat, especially if you played it on hard. It’s just mashing one button on a enemy until they die and if they jump at you, use Bash.
That being said, saying people like it only for its visuals is a hell of an understatement. That game’s platforming is super sick and it’s story is also pretty good.
The combat to me felt great, I loved shooting the thing and ground slamming and dashing with an enemy. The combat is certainly better in the second but but I still found the combat fun.
I found the combat actually weirdly smart. The game had more of an emphasis on platforming so i believe that the combat was made intentionally that way as now instead of wat moves do i have to use it's more focused on your movement to win fights. My opinion though and i did play on normal in contrast to coney
The combat in the first game is the worst thing about it imo. It has no impact and felt bad to do imo. Second game is a large improvement
@@harvesterman5210 the problem with the combat for me is the attack itself. It’s a weak, homing projectile that you have to spam mindlessly and constantly to kill anything. It’s just not satisfying to use. While moving around with your abilities to avoid enemies is fun and is the one good part of the combat, I feel like you can accomplish that kind of thing while also having an attack that’s satisfying to use.
I think I just had a problem with Ori specifically and I don’t know why, I did fine with other metroidvanias like hollow knight and Metroid dread but I got lost in Ori, looked up a guide and still couldn’t figure out what to do :/
I saw someone point out the chat going crazy every time he adds a new tier and now I can’t unsee it and I always laugh
It’s always my favourite part of the tier list videos lol
The "New Tier *dancing man*" is one of the best things.
Watching the justifications on this list made me significantly more mad than when I actually saw the list
Hello Guilty Gear guy
It just makes me wanna explode
Me when Coney says game I like is boring: sad
Me when Coney says game I think is overhyped is boring: LFG, POG
And that would be…
You know at this point I don’t care about coneys opinion, either way, I’m gonna have a damn blast watching him argue with chat and if the content is good then isn’t that a win for all?
u stopped to care because u realised he's right but you like the game too much
@@nikodemsulowski9625 for ori DEFINITELY I don’t think the combat is that good, but exploring was still fun so I think it’s 50/50 BUT MY HEART WILL ALWAYS BE WITH KATANA ZERO… although I do wish the ending was different- wait I’m agreeing with him-
hella why i still watch coney
disagree on so many levels, but god the banter is worth seeing what i like shit on
@@nikodemsulowski9625 thats kinda how opinions work lmao?
simply cannot wrap my head around the Katana Zero take
yeah I mean the cutscenes are vague and all but they're not overbearing, you get more game than cutscene. At least I remember that
Katana Zero, more like mid miami weeb style
@@Ligmamonkey L take.
@@Cye_Pie based actually.
Time to watch a professional shit-stirrer say things I don't agree with and enjoy it
I like how even with the bias of "hey this is just the personal opinion of the person making it and everyone has their own unique tastes" Coney manages to make unforgivably horrible tier lists that just happen to be seeded with a few softball picks
Chat spamming "MORE TIERS" will never not be funny
The skeleton is what does it for me
Meatboy walked so celeste could extended hyper into a wallbounce
Ah Coney, the inventor and king of the fifty tier tierlist.
Revolutionary for the genre
I love how no matter everyone’s reaction to these tier lists, one thing is the same: Chat always SkeletonPls-ing every time a new tier is added. 🤣
Cuphead (imo) is its own beast from an artistic perspective, because let's frame it like this:
Before Cuphead: Rubberhose Animation was as dead as a doornail
But after Cuphead, not only did people try to draw in "Cuphead style" (which is actually just rubberhose animation), but fans are stoked for Cuphead DLC, and were angry that the Cuphead Show didn't have that exact style of animation. Here's a good spot to mention that one Cuphead ripoff game that almost came out, because being Cuphead was the most marketable way that people (who are and are not artists together) found that as the best way to make money.
Those madlads at Studio MDHR literally resurrected a dead artform as much as one can be revived (it'll never be #1 because it's too time consuming to make). From just one game? They KILLED it. I have *daydreams* of being able to bring from the grave my niche favorite artforms as efficiently as those devs brought back theirs.
As a game? Pretty good, too tough for my lame gamer skills. But as art? Consider the passage above
The only thing I really have grounds to hard disagree on is that Journey was just good for its time. I played it for the first time last year and I enjoyed it. I could probably concede that I didn't enjoy it to the level that people did back in the day, but the connotations associated with "good for the time" don't feel warranted in Journey's case.
What you're saying is it required a new tier; "Still good but possibly better at the time"
@@Gohka Yes, exactly, more tiers please
more tiers
Coney might be the most specific tier list maker ever
The Smash characters based on teeth was hilarious
@@shiffpup2529 I'm sorry... what?
@@Gohka This video is the tier list:
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@sam sniffer. No one's gonna see this but that's probably the top comment lmfao. That tier list was HILARIOUS.
@@smithmichael8144 I don't watch him on stream enough. But every time I see him post a tierlist to Twitter, I know it's gonna be a hilarious video
No matter what you think of any of the games on here, it's still amazing how so many people were able to make much smaller games on their own and have them succeed
Im not gonna lie i unironically agree with this. Like, not even joking.
Uh oh...
Im convinced coney doesnt know how tier lists work at some point he's going to make a tier list where he has a separate tier for every single thing in the tier list
Not the Wandersong and Night In The Woods Slander
Also no Bug Fables on the list!? For shame!
Coney you should honestly give Ori 2 a try. They toned down a lot of the cheap deaths and amped up the platforming and combat tenfold. It turned out to be one of the best platformers I’ve played after not loving the first one at all
Coney already got his content from this tierlist, he's done lmao
I have to disagree with coney on night in the woods. I can agree that it's kinda hipster bait but he got the plot completely backwards. Mae doesn't want more out of life and that's her main problem. Everything around her is changing and her friends are going on to do bigger things while she stays the same. I actually like the slice of life aspect more and the secret cult stuff kinda throws me off.
I despise Gregg too much, and the dialogue is just... so bad
@@samdilophosaur9787 eh the dialogue can be rough at points. Can't understand hating Gregg though. Gregg's awesome.
@@samdilophosaur9787 To me the dialogue felt appropriate. Yeah, there were times I was cringing out of my skull, but that’s because our focal character is a douchebag with a very clearly untreated psychotic disorder, the conversations she’s going to lead with people aren’t going to be the creme de la creme of interpersonal interactions.
Maybe at times the overall dialogues are trying too hard to be quirky, but the characters are not entirely insufferable, even the more douchey ones like Mae and arguably Gregg. I’m in my twenties and I know people IRL that talk and act in a similar way to some of the characters, it isn’t all unrealistic.
What’s funny is that he unconsciously called himself a hipster because he admitted to being really excited to play NITW when it first released.
But yeah I agree he got it wrong. NITW is very good but it’s obviously not Coney’s thing, considering how he sent other games on this list to the shadow realm for the long cutscenes and NITW is essentially a visual novel you can walk around in.
I loooooooove NITW but I totally understand why it won't vibe with some people
I think the one thing I would change is not having a choice between Gregg or Bea and instead just have you go through both routes. It's kind of important to get to know both of them but you can only pick one
why would anyone waste their time getting mad at these opinions, I think they’re fair.
This isn't even a tier list anymore, it's just a collection of mini-reviews packaged as tiers
Press F to pay respects to Coney's scroll wheel, poor thing's probably busted by now just dealing with the sheer volume of tiers
I find it rather funny how Coney just decided to save Lisa for last as the chat in the background is just Terry. Maybe it’s because I don’t see this game in the wild that much.
crazy that cave story wasnt on that list
embarrassing. i thought this man was a Gamer
coney adding tiers brings me so much seratonin
If you got videogame time to waste, play the katana zero hardmode in the speedrun mode. Skips all the bs, coolest versions of the level.
I'd say the party members leaving/permadeath aspect of Lisa makes it really unique.
Agreed. As well as the types of choices it forces you to make
Katana Zero and Messenger are some of my favorites games from recent memory. But I suppose everyone has their tastes too each their own
He put Spiritfarer on the Not Interested tier because he knows it’ll break him, like every person that played it
Whenever I first saw the list I had questioned it, but after watching the video recap it makes a lot more sense and makes me appreciate the work you put into it.
I wasn't going to watch this because it's just another tier list video.
Then I remembered it was a CONEY tier list. Thank you, content man.
The fact that I can watch this entire video, even though I've only played about five of these games, and he roasted the two of them which I really love, speaks to how entertaining and captivating Coney really is. Thanks for the content, and keep up the great work
Is NO ONE IN THE COMMENTS Going to talk about how ACTUALLY HILARIOUS THIS VIDEO IS? (like in a good way not insulting)
THIS IS LIKE THE NEW Joe And Pat's review level of I'm Dying Of Laughter 🤣
Watching Coney go from shitting on Slay The Spire for being a card game to glazing Balatro on his podcast is peak character development.
he HATES to do this
I don't even need to finish the video, Coney gets a -100 for daring to call Iconoclasts boring. His blood must be blue.
Nice vid tho. Making the whole world mad, lmao. Actually pretty brave
The first half is boring but then shit hits the fan really fast and takes the game from boring to amazing in two seconds. It’s such a shame that there’s like 6 hours of what feels like filler before it
Coney's Feed and Seed
Well, you've clearly never played Helltaker but it is a puzzle game so you'd probably not enjoy it
No way this guy played Owlboy but isn't willing to try Terraria and Plants vs Zombies lol
Holy shit I forgot how much coney hates video games
I crumbled when coney put Terraria in the Not Interested tier (you're right though, kinda mad >:( )
"Ori is hipster bait, it's boring, there's no combat." - Guy who loves Mario
I mean when you think of metroidvanias combat is usually a decent part of it, and I think you coul be successful in making a metroidvania without combat, but having the combat be just pressing one button that locks on to the enemy is not as fun as a well developped combat system which is a big difference between ori 1 and 2
What's the song playing at 7:00? I know I've heard it and its driving me nuts that I can't remember where
Hi, I know this is two years late but don't worry about what I'm doing here, it's Crystals from the Hotline Miami OST.
I saw this list on twitter and honestly for the most part I think it's pretty solid. I understand not vibing with Night in the Woods although that personally one of my most favorite indie games ever and was easily my GOTY the year it came out. The only odd one to me are the Ori games. I'm always surprised when people don't like the Ori games because for me they're two of the best platformers ever made. Up there with DKC: Tropical Freeze, Celeste and Yoshi's Island
Okay what was good to you about night in the woods? It was infuriating to me. I am genuinely curious because I just don’t know what people enjoyed about it and I’d like to see their perspective
@@samdilophosaur9787 The story, characters and setting just absolutely knocked it out of the park for me.
19:30 BASED GUY IN CHAT
EVERHOOD IS MY NUMBER ONE FAVORITE GAME EVER
FTL: Faster Than Light should’ve been on there. Love that game.
Oh yeah, I didn't even think of that but definitely that game is fantastic.
Why do people hate this, I really like 90 percent of these opinions
Coney, My Friend Pedro literally takes 2 hours to beat. It stays its welcome perfectly.
God I forgot about Coney's naming convention for tiers and the number of them he makes 😂
I think Coney labeling Helltaker "porn" says more about him than it says about Helltaker
As someone who is not picky in the slightest when it comes to games I am extremely grateful I can enjoy almost any game. Whether it's because it has a good art style or story or whether it has fun gameplay or concepts. Either way glad I'm not old like Coney and can still find enjoyment in things.
There's so many important games missing from this list template
Coney in the lab cooking up the worst katana zero opinion in existence
whats the name of the song that starts on 14:54 ?
Romania by El Huervo, great album
Appreciate it fam
Braid is literally like the quality of game i would shit out in middle school for a game maker project in class
Im gonna be 100% honest, this was the worst tier list I have ever witnessed ever being conceived. Not even because of Coney’s opinion on each game because I expect it to be bad already, but specifically because of how much of an identity crisis this tier list had between it being Coney’s actual personal opinion and rating each game’s influence on public masses and video game culture. It was sad to watch him downplay his own favorites in favor of other games because they’re less niche or whatever.
Mald
I love you Coney and so I will remove all that you said about Katana Zero and its placement on the list from my memory
Helltaker doesn't even have a shred of porn wtf
I barely agree with Coney but he's funny enough that I don't care
Katana Zero got done so badly because Coney did not read the dialogue
LMAO fr i enjoyed katana zero dialogue more than gameplay
Hey, what's the song that plays at 12:14? It sounds really good!
It's The House of Hades from the game Hades
Wait… this is an indie game tier list, no?
W-where is Cave Story on this list? Did he skip by it in the “never played”? I feel like it belongs at the top of any list just out of respect, lol.
I cant wait to see what my favorite streamer says about katana zero!
I thought the list was gonna be 'most of these suck except for these really good ones', but aside from the list being a mess organization-wise, most of time Coney was either spitting facts or clearly saying when something didn't match his tastes
0:09 I'm a little mad but it is true
An ad got through my ad blocker on this video somehow.
Holy shit this is the type of video that makes me remember Coney is like a decade older than me with these fucking insane takes
Huh maybe that's why I (someone I think like 2 years older than Coney) actually thought he was pretty accurate lmao.
Though I also have played probably less than half of the games he had played.
Cuphead should've been on truly brilliant tier the game is hand drawn which animation takes long asf and Cuphead really felt like you were playing a 1930's cartoon.
Did I just miss Rogue Legacy / 2 and Fullmetal Furies? Cellar Door Games have some bangers.
I kinda agreed with the tier list, but then Coney had to say that The Messenger overstays its welcome.
Terraria is a really great game, for anyone who hasn’t played it its basically Minecraft but an incredibly polished and fun metroidvania.
Honestly I feel like Hat in Time would be considered pinnacle of its genre if Mario Odyssey about the same time as Hat in Time did. Because Mario Odyssey is one of the very, very few games of its genre to beat it out today.
was stardew not on there? it’s definitely a pinnacle of the genre
At what point do you make tier for every game. At that point just have a tier called "meat boy".
I heavily recommend you play subnautica and terraria.
My friend pedro is basically John wick meets matrix
Teirlist looking like a cvs receipt
Putting Little Nightmares 2 so far below Little Nightmares 1 is utterly insane to me. Honestly they're equal as far as I'm concerned, and both Top 10 games of all time. Can't wait for the third!
I feel like this is just an in depth review with each game and looking at the other games to see if any other fit the description lmao
Bro Cuphead and Spelunky music? Editor went crazy with this one
Slay the Spire is AMAZING 😭
Tier lists: a certified coney classic
Helltaker wouldn't even be called porn in the eyes of the Pope himself, not sure what game Coney was playing
I am convinced that Coney didn’t actually finish Katana Zero
I got truly excited in the first few seconds after learning what the video would be about! I was not dissapointed, you seemed very passionate about this subject!
Did I see pvz in there? Pvz should be unique ideas nailed to perfection. I enjoy pvz 2 and all of the spinoffs so much, heck, gw2 is my 3rd favourite game ever and the most fun I have ever had with a game, but you can always argue how good these are. But we can at least all agree that the original pvz is a flawless fucking masterpiece!
Yo literally how does Coney not have 100k subs
“We’ll make this quick” 🙂
"My Problem with pyre is that the accual combat sucked"same for xenoblade 1 for me. Xenoblade 2 has such a good combat System, and going back to 1 from that was pretty painful. The story and characters are great but the combat in 2 is so much more fun! Well, it looks like 3's system is gonna be a fusion of 1 and 2 so we'll see how it turns out