The thing is that cars are not always masculine. I would call myself a car guy, but my car is a 1984 Pontiac Fiero, often seen as a cute and "unmasculine" small car with 93 horsepower, especially compared to the mustangs of the time. Cars are, at least as I see it and for "car guys", inherently a public depiction and extention of yourself, your tastes and personality. When you spend so much time and money with a car in a given day driving, you tend to be more attached to it sentimentally. Another thing is that in America, freedom is culturally related to the car, and the view of restricting access to cars being restricting freedom is a big reason why regulations haven't changed.
Dude I’ve been watching all your vids and about shit when I saw your subscriber count. This channel is amazing I hope you get the views and subs you deserve.
As someone bordering on being a fanatic when it comes to cars, this is certainly an interesting take on the subject. I do agree with a number of points you make though personally, I think you lean a little too heavily on the gender stuff and go on a little more than needed with the auto safety tangent. Maybe it’s just me, though I’ve never put much thought into the manliness of car ownership, I’ve just always been drawn to cars for as long as I can remember.
I appreciate your points. Anecdotally, I have known many reckless female drivers and many hobbyist car girls. The numbers, for the country as a whole, just paint a different story.
Where I grew up there were two ways to get a license: through the RMV or through tri-town, a driving school. It was just known that tri-town was way easier to pass but you had to take their drivers ED course. I passed the tri-town test at 18 after having maybe driven twice (by-passing the driving hours because I was 18) while a few of my friends failed their RMV tests multiple times. Ironically after a decade plus I have a clean driving record, not even a ticket.
Dude I went to high school with was the peak of car guy. Posts about his cars every single day on his instagram story, got arrested freshman year for stealing a car and driving it halfway across the country(???), was known to punch holes through the drywall, and he rapped on soundcloud. I hate the term toxic masculinity as well but the guy perfectly encapsulated it. He had a baby last year who i hope comes out ok lol
I feel like this doesn't apply in the UK, partly due to ads not targeting manliness, guys who like cars are normally anoraks who spend all day tinkering and speaking to other anoraks
i largely agree with a lot of the points youre making, but i feel like that what a car guy is to you, is very different to what a car guy is to a lot of other people, myself included. Not everybody thats into cars to the extend where they are spending the entirety of their paycheck on car stuff is gonna invest that into a lifted mudtruck to roll coal in. For me, and many others, its an extension of your own interests in the technology or culture that cars bring with them. Be it tuner culture, motorsports, or something as mundaine as collecting or simply an interest in automotive engineering. Maybe even just an odd outlet for their nostalgia of a bygone era. You just tend to not see those kinds of people when youre not actively into the culture, since they either lurk around car shows or local racetracks and whatnot. Its sad that the perception of car guys to the general public are either pubecant rich kids that think its cool to chop off the muffler off their 2003 subaru sti, or southern blue-collar workers having a midlife crisis and coping by building a lifted pickup that covers the whole neighborhood in a thin layer of soot, cause its so much more than that. At least it is to me it is. Still good video though, i enjoyed it a lot
sir, you're videos and takes are great. soon the super secret youtube algorithm (known only as THE BEAST) will recognize your efforts and bestow admiration from strangers upon you
That study on what man is expected to be attractive based on the car the drive is weird? Is this an US American exclusive study? Pickups are very rare here and they come of as douchey if you aren't someone who actually uses the the back part of a pickup truck.
This started out promising but then went down hill. You seem to have focused far to heavily on the worst 20 percent of the culture, who take it to those extremes without having a true understanding what its about. To use your masterworks of King Of the Hill to help illustrate my thoughts, Hank & Boomhauer are both very much car guys, yet there was no mention, let alone do I believe you factored in the many tens of thousands of guys like them who has a cool car in the garage but are totally normal. They drive faster yes, and yet have not caused or been in crashs. Just my thoughts. Still love the channel.
I appreciate the critique. This video was injected with more emotion on my part due to knowing completely reckless car guys and the one who hit me. But based upon your and other responses, the video would have benefitted from a three tier classification of car enthusiasts, car guys, and car guy extremes.
@@talkinbout8159 Thank you for giving it a little more thought. There will always be a few who spoil it for the bunch, but that doesn't bean we are all bad. Dang ol' good of ya man
This video makes conflations that suggest either inability or malice. Extreme car guys are brought up and seamlessly transitioned into talk of so called regular car guys, and men. Typical Kuleshov effect, sequencing points in a way that does not explicitly link them but suggests their relationship. Feel emotions over actions of the bad car guys whose video footage you are watching, then think about all car guys, all men and so on as you continue discussion without making any effort to distinguish the actions of extremists from the norm. I feel manipulated and like I'm wasting my time watching your content, so I'm going to go get bent now and unsub! Fretn't as I will let the door hit me on my ass, on the way out: stick to pop culture analysis
I somewhat agree, this was a bit of a weaker video with not as much balance and care as I like. Felt less researched + intellectually balanced and more popsych and even partisan (worth mentioning now, non american, non car guy disclaimer!) But I will look foward to your next effort as always, Talkin'bout. It's your channel, you can project whatever message you want!
This video is definitely injected with more of my personal emotions. I wavered on releasing it because I've never took such an aggressive approach before... but then again, it's an honest look at my own views. I appreciate you taking it with a grain of salt.
This video speaks to me, as someone that has to sit and nod his head while listening to car talk all day. Also the editing in this video was amazing
The thing is that cars are not always masculine. I would call myself a car guy, but my car is a 1984 Pontiac Fiero, often seen as a cute and "unmasculine" small car with 93 horsepower, especially compared to the mustangs of the time. Cars are, at least as I see it and for "car guys", inherently a public depiction and extention of yourself, your tastes and personality. When you spend so much time and money with a car in a given day driving, you tend to be more attached to it sentimentally. Another thing is that in America, freedom is culturally related to the car, and the view of restricting access to cars being restricting freedom is a big reason why regulations haven't changed.
I don't have anything specific to say this time, just that this channel is so freaking good and you should keep up the good work
The editing and visuals you use to describe what your saying makes your videos really fun to watch.
I'm really glad I accidentally stumbled upon your channel, keep up the good work!
Dude I’ve been watching all your vids and about shit when I saw your subscriber count. This channel is amazing I hope you get the views and subs you deserve.
Appreciate it!
@@talkinbout8159 The editing style on your King of the Hill video 😚👌 That’s some 1.3m subscriber quality we’re talking about.
Just found your channel. Surprising you only have 3k followers! These are some high quality vids. Keep it up :)
here before this channel blows up... great videos my man
As someone bordering on being a fanatic when it comes to cars, this is certainly an interesting take on the subject. I do agree with a number of points you make though personally, I think you lean a little too heavily on the gender stuff and go on a little more than needed with the auto safety tangent. Maybe it’s just me, though I’ve never put much thought into the manliness of car ownership, I’ve just always been drawn to cars for as long as I can remember.
I appreciate your points. Anecdotally, I have known many reckless female drivers and many hobbyist car girls. The numbers, for the country as a whole, just paint a different story.
Where I grew up there were two ways to get a license: through the RMV or through tri-town, a driving school. It was just known that tri-town was way easier to pass but you had to take their drivers ED course. I passed the tri-town test at 18 after having maybe driven twice (by-passing the driving hours because I was 18) while a few of my friends failed their RMV tests multiple times. Ironically after a decade plus I have a clean driving record, not even a ticket.
cant get enough of this channel! keep it up
Dude I went to high school with was the peak of car guy. Posts about his cars every single day on his instagram story, got arrested freshman year for stealing a car and driving it halfway across the country(???), was known to punch holes through the drywall, and he rapped on soundcloud. I hate the term toxic masculinity as well but the guy perfectly encapsulated it. He had a baby last year who i hope comes out ok lol
I feel like this doesn't apply in the UK, partly due to ads not targeting manliness, guys who like cars are normally anoraks who spend all day tinkering and speaking to other anoraks
Could be! No info was gathered from the UK.
Obligatory "Manual transmission IS simpler."
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i largely agree with a lot of the points youre making, but i feel like that what a car guy is to you, is very different to what a car guy is to a lot of other people, myself included. Not everybody thats into cars to the extend where they are spending the entirety of their paycheck on car stuff is gonna invest that into a lifted mudtruck to roll coal in. For me, and many others, its an extension of your own interests in the technology or culture that cars bring with them. Be it tuner culture, motorsports, or something as mundaine as collecting or simply an interest in automotive engineering. Maybe even just an odd outlet for their nostalgia of a bygone era. You just tend to not see those kinds of people when youre not actively into the culture, since they either lurk around car shows or local racetracks and whatnot. Its sad that the perception of car guys to the general public are either pubecant rich kids that think its cool to chop off the muffler off their 2003 subaru sti, or southern blue-collar workers having a midlife crisis and coping by building a lifted pickup that covers the whole neighborhood in a thin layer of soot, cause its so much more than that. At least it is to me it is. Still good video though, i enjoyed it a lot
Appreciate the counter points, the culture I'm sure is far more nuanced than the broad strokes I painted.
sir, you're videos and takes are great. soon the super secret youtube algorithm (known only as THE BEAST) will recognize your efforts and bestow admiration from strangers upon you
THE BEAST is a truck nuts guy, I only made him hate me more.
Very under rated channel
Nice
Bro amazing
13:12 Oh hi there jordan
What a nice young man
I looked at this.
That study on what man is expected to be attractive based on the car the drive is weird? Is this an US American exclusive study? Pickups are very rare here and they come of as douchey if you aren't someone who actually uses the the back part of a pickup truck.
I believe it was just the US yes. Pickups are a big thing here and rarely do the owners actually need them for utility.
This started out promising but then went down hill. You seem to have focused far to heavily on the worst 20 percent of the culture, who take it to those extremes without having a true understanding what its about. To use your masterworks of King Of the Hill to help illustrate my thoughts, Hank & Boomhauer are both very much car guys, yet there was no mention, let alone do I believe you factored in the many tens of thousands of guys like them who has a cool car in the garage but are totally normal. They drive faster yes, and yet have not caused or been in crashs. Just my thoughts. Still love the channel.
I appreciate the critique. This video was injected with more emotion on my part due to knowing completely reckless car guys and the one who hit me. But based upon your and other responses, the video would have benefitted from a three tier classification of car enthusiasts, car guys, and car guy extremes.
@@talkinbout8159 Thank you for giving it a little more thought. There will always be a few who spoil it for the bunch, but that doesn't bean we are all bad. Dang ol' good of ya man
thank you, i am going to use this to more effectively bully car guys
Another great shitpost description
Descriptions, what are they good for? Nothing.
Huh, oh don't mind me, I'm just filling my "comment on every video" quota.
Thank you for your service.
@@talkinbout8159 Its a living
As a man who doesn't drive, I guess I'm like gay or something apparently. Who knew? I certainly didn't.
This video makes conflations that suggest either inability or malice. Extreme car guys are brought up and seamlessly transitioned into talk of so called regular car guys, and men. Typical Kuleshov effect, sequencing points in a way that does not explicitly link them but suggests their relationship. Feel emotions over actions of the bad car guys whose video footage you are watching, then think about all car guys, all men and so on as you continue discussion without making any effort to distinguish the actions of extremists from the norm.
I feel manipulated and like I'm wasting my time watching your content, so I'm going to go get bent now and unsub! Fretn't as I will let the door hit me on my ass, on the way out: stick to pop culture analysis
I somewhat agree, this was a bit of a weaker video with not as much balance and care as I like. Felt less researched + intellectually balanced and more popsych and even partisan (worth mentioning now, non american, non car guy disclaimer!) But I will look foward to your next effort as always, Talkin'bout. It's your channel, you can project whatever message you want!
This video is definitely injected with more of my personal emotions. I wavered on releasing it because I've never took such an aggressive approach before... but then again, it's an honest look at my own views.
I appreciate you taking it with a grain of salt.