I am getting a KJV Treveris in royal blue in January 2023 as my birthday gift. I have been dreaming of this beautifully crafted book every day now. Can't wait to hold it in my hands!
Really good review! This Bible is such a beautiful work of art and I have not even held one yet. Would be a nice Bible to compliment a main study Bible when we just want to read and meditate.
I still cannot get my head around modern bibles not having books start on their own page. No one has offered me an explanation that makes sense as to why they choose to start new books on the same page as the end of the previous book. Cambridge is notorious for this
I have this on preorder so excited....thanks for the review I wasn’t expecting a review this early they must have sent you a review copy so glad they did!
The look of the text, the quality of the package as well as having zero references, headers, etc are phenomenal for a specialized reading Bible. My only complaint, and unfortunately it's a big one, is the verses in the margins. It forces the eyes left and causes a constant nagging, somehow much more than if they were within the text (counterintuitive but the case at least for me). It also makes finding and memorizing a verse harder. That would be a worthy sacrifice if it improved readability but being that the reading is also hindered as well, I'm hopeful Schuyler will make a new paragraph version KJV in the future. A good first attempt though.
Awesome looking Bible. The size does look perfect! If it was a NKJV I would be left with a lighter wallet very soon ;) Thank you for the detailed review!
Hi Randy. Sorry I'm so late on this one. Am really considering getting this Bible. Were you happy with the corner work on this one? I ask because Schuyler tends to cut and paste, rather than pleat, their corners.
First page of Genesis has a verse numbering mistake. Verse 9 is coupled with verse 8 which it should not be. The second 9 is the actual start of that verse. I hope this is not a problem throughout, as the Canterbury had textual issues in the first printing. @Bible Buying Guide
Does the Treveris have text consistency problems? I ordered a Quentel years ago only to find that the text was bold on some pages while very light on others. I was disappointed enough to return it & that was my only experience with Schuyler. I've seen this in cheaper Bibles but is this common with Bibles in this price range?
Such a great review and thought process of each area; think you've convinced me on this one. I look forward to looking through all the other videos you have!
Enjoy all of your reviews. I’m undecided between new thinner Quentel or waiting for this. Looking for ESV. I have the older KJV Canterbury which is awesome. But looking for lighter one for carrying.How does the paper compare especially see thru? I’m spoiled by Canterbury .
I have a Canterbury KJB and I LOVE it. But I have ANXIOUSLY awaited for the Red-Letter KJB Treveris every since you did a review prior to it being put into production. I do have a question Sir. Do you know of any KJB with Early Church Father Commentary? I purchased a CSB Ancient Study but I only like the commentary. Especially John Chrysostoms commentary. Do you know any such King James Bible Sir? 🙏🏾❤️🌹🙏🏾
Hi. I don't know of one. Probably the closest is the Hendrickson Devotional Bible, which as short devotions from early writers, but I don't think it's what you're looking for since it doesn't have much commentary.
Red letter, yes. 10 point print, yes. The single column layout, no. The verse numbering system, no. When you put the Canterbury next to it, I immediately liked it design. And the font was definitely a little larger and the print didn't look as dark to my eye. I might have to check out some videos on the Canterbury. Thank you for all of the comparisons. Normally more than three drives me nuts, but not today!
Hello brother. I couldn't find the same product which is in the video on the website. It was the black version of this. Can you send me a link of the brown one please?
GREAT REVIEW!! I agree in all points. I also would have appreciated the Kings English glossary. I must say it is such a wonderful product to compliment the Canterbury and PSQ! Way to go Schuyler!! The font is so amazing! Anything Schuyler is putting out, I am going to purchase. Thankful they started with the KJV but really look forward to the ESV in the same style.
Thanks for the review, super helpful video. Waiting to preorder the ESV of the same model. Only thing that I dislike is that poetry/songs/quotes etc use a verse by verse layout instead of the stanza layout like in ESV single column personal reference Bible by cross way. The vs by vs just feels so clunky
Thanks Robert. For reading and general use, I prefer this one. It has a larger and darker print and the overall dimensions are more balanced. The Clarion is great if you need other tools, such as references, footnotes, and a glossary, and you don't want to use external tools for that.
I got a 2 column wide margin today from Nelson. Premier. Often duplicates Quentel in format. It has red reference #'s and headers and book name in red. I may have had a single column BEFORE. But NOW I like the Schuyler set up. Nelson Premier gives me some options other than Schuyler. BOTH ARE very nice. Tea and BIBLES..a positive addiction...I hope.
Is there a Nasb in this format not like the huge Ts and As I mean like the text page format it’s perfect but in the premier Nasb I have not seen anything like this yet?
Thanks for the video. Do you know if there is much difference between the calfskin and goatskin leather versions? There is one available in Black on the website that is much cheaper than the others, (120 dollars versus 180-200) but I don't know if that's just for the colour
Great review. The website says the thickness is 1.1” but you measured it at 1.250. I thought this was going to fall into the thin line category. Is the text block 1.1 and the cover is adding the additional thickness you measured? Thank you in advance.
Yes. Publishers always measure the trim size, which is the text-block only. Most Bibles are available in multiple covers and they have different thicknesses and yapps. I always measure the cover size because that's the size you need to know for it to fit into a case. The trim size is 1.1".
Ok Randy, this is one of the few calfskin bibles that I have seen that is edge-lined. I have the an ESV top grain bible that is edge-lined and I love it so much for the calfskin. I had an heirloom thinline in goatskin but I didn’t like the pebbly grain at all. Why don’t these publishers make more calfskin, edge-lined bibles??? Instead of these stiff calfskin? While I’m asking, do you prefer them with paste down or edge-lined and why
I'd love to see more calfskin with edge-lined liners. I like both for different reasons. Edge-lined 'should' last much longer than paste-down because of the construction method. At the same time, I'm not a fan of a stiff edge-lined tab. I like the way high-quality calfskin paste-down lays open without a hump. I want every page to stay open and lay as flat as possible. I also prefer a cover to be slightly stiff (but not rigid). I find overly floppy covers difficult to deal with (slightly floppy is nice) because I like to hold the Bible in one had to read.
@@BibleBuyingGuide My thing with the paste downs is that it feels stiff and not very high quality. Leather imitators look too similar to calfskin paste downs in quality and texture to me. If I'm going to pay more, I want it to feel nicer. Of course that's my opinion, there are positives and negatives of both types. Definitely do not like stiff hinges. I was not a fan of the super stiff heirloom thinline hinge. It was pretty tough to lay flat when you couple the hinge with the small thinline there just wasn't much weight to combat the hinge. I love my top grain wm esv though. It stays open any where and stays flat even on the presentation pages now that I've used it for about 18 months. I'd love it if they made a single column legacy with thicker paper in the top grain. They just released a trutone version of it. That might make a good review for you Randy. Hopefully they'll think about doing a top grain version of that one. That'd be an awesome reader for me. And not too expensive too boot! Love that layout of the SCL.
Looking forward to a KJV reader. I think it's going to be an enjoyable read... Much appreciated Randy... The darker font is great. I do prefer black text over red. That would be the only off spot. But not a big deal. Still love the Concord. But the Treveris will be my sit back/relax reader... Finally an excellent size, close to the Caxton...
I prefer this one because of the paragraph layout, clean text, and poetic setting. The Canterbury is an excellent choice for a reference or preaching Bible, but for me, verse-by-verse and the distractions in the text are not ideal for reading.
They have got to do more translations in this exact format, I’d get it but already have lots of kjv bibles including all my families kjv bibles laying around
If only they would make this single column in a verse by verse in KJV. I was about to buy this until I saw you need to search for where the verses begin and end.
Hello , is the calfskin leather thicker than their goatskin covers? I have the Canterbury (Goatskin) and the personal Size Canterbury calfskin but it has a pasted liner . I’m asking because I think I would like it to be more sturdy will laying back in a chair and reading 😁
I really don't see the purpose of this bible in light of how good the Canterbury is. Further, a new Canterbury is on the way--thinner with a full yapp. Also, for a reading bible, the Cambridge Turquoise or the Nelson Giant Print are better easy reading options with more useful features.
Many folks, myself included, prefer single column text. Also, many KJV folks don’t want references, chapter headings, superscripts and all the other junk in the text. We want a clean presentation and premium binding of the word of God that we can just sit and read without all the extras. Treveris is perfect
very nice review ! I'd love to have one of these great KJV bibles in Goatskin with full yapp..I've had bibles recovered in Sakota Goatskin and the cost was way above the cost of this bible in goatskin and what this great bible has is what I paid for to get mine recovered bibles to look like..Hmmm !! No-brainer here..although i need the largest font size they make on these bibles.. my eyes aren't like they were 50 years ago. your smaller bibles looks like it would be compared to a Cameo Cambridge
That's a tough one. I'd probably choose the Clarion because I like the size. I also like that it fixes broken sentences (like 98:9). The Treveris is easier to read, though, because of the larger and darker font, and it highlights OT quotes in a poetic setting.
Beautiful bible man. Been caring around my Strand study bible which I love, best KJV study Bible ever. Canterbury is on my buy list tho. I mark my go to scriptures, I'm a verse by verse man.
I have the NASB in single column text..SCT. And side column references SCR. From Nelson. It is great. But I prefer the PREACHING BIBLE layout. Verse by verse. In BLUE #s. .
I’ve noticed an issue with the print in my black goatskin Treveris. The Red letter is often set a little lower than the black letter text. Matt 16:13 the black leading into the red it clearly on the same line but Matt 17:22-23 the red text is about .020 lower than the black. Those are just some example scriptures, it is an ongoing theme through my whole Bible’s red to black letter transitions. Still love this bible. It’s my personal favorite. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this.
Red is always printed in a second pass through the printer and they don't always get the pages lined up perfectly. I haven't noticed any variation in mine. I'll be looking for it.
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I am getting a KJV Treveris in royal blue in January 2023 as my birthday gift. I have been dreaming of this beautifully crafted book every day now. Can't wait to hold it in my hands!
Awesome! Congratulations and happy birthday!
Really good review! This Bible is such a beautiful work of art and I have not even held one yet. Would be a nice Bible to compliment a main study Bible when we just want to read and meditate.
I still cannot get my head around modern bibles not having books start on their own page. No one has offered me an explanation that makes sense as to why they choose to start new books on the same page as the end of the previous book. Cambridge is notorious for this
I have this on preorder so excited....thanks for the review I wasn’t expecting a review this early they must have sent you a review copy so glad they did!
I love Single Column Bibles for reading. Have you been able to find out if they are going to make a version of this for the ESV or NASB translations?
The look of the text, the quality of the package as well as having zero references, headers, etc are phenomenal for a specialized reading Bible. My only complaint, and unfortunately it's a big one, is the verses in the margins. It forces the eyes left and causes a constant nagging, somehow much more than if they were within the text (counterintuitive but the case at least for me). It also makes finding and memorizing a verse harder. That would be a worthy sacrifice if it improved readability but being that the reading is also hindered as well, I'm hopeful Schuyler will make a new paragraph version KJV in the future. A good first attempt though.
Awesome looking Bible. The size does look perfect! If it was a NKJV I would be left with a lighter wallet very soon ;) Thank you for the detailed review!
Hey Randy, is the spine really off? is it really that bad. I've been seeing a lot of videos showing the issue on the spine. Thanks!
Hi Randy. Sorry I'm so late on this one. Am really considering getting this Bible. Were you happy with the corner work on this one? I ask because Schuyler tends to cut and paste, rather than pleat, their corners.
They pleat the full yapp, which is what I have
First page of Genesis has a verse numbering mistake. Verse 9 is coupled with verse 8 which it should not be. The second 9 is the actual start of that verse. I hope this is not a problem throughout, as the Canterbury had textual issues in the first printing. @Bible Buying Guide
Does the Treveris have text consistency problems? I ordered a Quentel years ago only to find that the text was bold on some pages while very light on others. I was disappointed enough to return it & that was my only experience with Schuyler. I've seen this in cheaper Bibles but is this common with Bibles in this price range?
Ordered mine this morning! I can’t wait to open it up and use it just for reading purposes.
Such a great review and thought process of each area; think you've convinced me on this one. I look forward to looking through all the other videos you have!
Looking forward to the ESV version of this that's coming soon!
As always, a fantastic review! Thank you Randy ☺️
Thank you!!
How does calfskin compare to the goatskin by Schuyler. Is one thicker. This bible is more expensive in calfskin which is not common
Enjoy all of your reviews. I’m undecided between new thinner Quentel or waiting for this. Looking for ESV. I have the older KJV Canterbury which is awesome. But looking for lighter one for carrying.How does the paper compare especially see thru? I’m spoiled by Canterbury .
Thank you! This does have more show-through than the Canterbury. The font is darker, so the show-through stands out a touch more.
Thank you. I’m anxious to read other reviews in the coming months
I have a Canterbury KJB and I LOVE it.
But I have ANXIOUSLY awaited for the Red-Letter KJB Treveris every since you did a review prior to it being put into production.
I do have a question Sir.
Do you know of any KJB with Early Church Father Commentary?
I purchased a CSB Ancient Study but I only like the commentary.
Especially John Chrysostoms commentary.
Do you know any such King James Bible Sir?
🙏🏾❤️🌹🙏🏾
Hi. I don't know of one. Probably the closest is the Hendrickson Devotional Bible, which as short devotions from early writers, but I don't think it's what you're looking for since it doesn't have much commentary.
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Thanks for replying sir.
Your so kind.
🙏🏾
Red letter, yes. 10 point print, yes. The single column layout, no. The verse numbering system, no. When you put the Canterbury next to it, I immediately liked it design. And the font was definitely a little larger and the print didn't look as dark to my eye. I might have to check out some videos on the Canterbury. Thank you for all of the comparisons. Normally more than three drives me nuts, but not today!
Just bought my wife and I the Canterbury in Mahogany Calfskin this fall 2020 for use first 6 months of next year. Hope to buy the Treveris in 2021
Why does this bible have paragraphs in Pauls epistles? In the 1769 KJB Camebridge text the paragraph marks end in Acts.
Hello brother. I couldn't find the same product which is in the video on the website. It was the black version of this. Can you send me a link of the brown one please?
It's currently out of stock. This page shows what they have in stock: evangelicalbible.com/product-category/schuyler-bibles/schuyler-treveris/
I just got this yesterday and it is fantastic I will try and do a review when time permits lovely Bible!
I look forward to seeing your review!
GREAT REVIEW!! I agree in all points. I also would have appreciated the Kings English glossary. I must say it is such a wonderful product to compliment the Canterbury and PSQ! Way to go Schuyler!! The font is so amazing! Anything Schuyler is putting out, I am going to purchase. Thankful they started with the KJV but really look forward to the ESV in the same style.
Thanks for the review, super helpful video. Waiting to preorder the ESV of the same model. Only thing that I dislike is that poetry/songs/quotes etc use a verse by verse layout instead of the stanza layout like in ESV single column personal reference Bible by cross way.
The vs by vs just feels so clunky
Great preview and review, thank you! I'm curious, if you had to choose between this or the Clarion which would you choose?
Thanks Robert. For reading and general use, I prefer this one. It has a larger and darker print and the overall dimensions are more balanced. The Clarion is great if you need other tools, such as references, footnotes, and a glossary, and you don't want to use external tools for that.
@@BibleBuyingGuide thank you so much for taking the time to reply sir!
@@Rob-lu2ns You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
I got a 2 column wide margin today from Nelson. Premier. Often duplicates Quentel in format. It has red reference #'s and headers and book name in red. I may have had a single column BEFORE. But NOW I like the Schuyler set up. Nelson Premier gives me some options other than Schuyler.
BOTH ARE very nice. Tea and BIBLES..a positive addiction...I hope.
Randy.. How does the font size on Treveris compare to the Holman Handcrafted KJV?
The Treveris overall size is 5.75 x 9 x 1.25″. It weighs 2 lbs, 1.4 oz.
The Holman overall size is 7 x 9 3/4 x 2″ and weighs 3 lbs, 3 oz.
Is there a Nasb in this format not like the huge Ts and As I mean like the text page format it’s perfect but in the premier Nasb I have not seen anything like this yet?
Thanks for the video. Do you know if there is much difference between the calfskin and goatskin leather versions? There is one available in Black on the website that is much cheaper than the others, (120 dollars versus 180-200) but I don't know if that's just for the colour
Which Print is better Schuyler Treveris Bible or the Premier Collection KJV Personal Size Large Print Reference Bible???
As always brother - great review! Thanks!
Thank you!!
Great review. The website says the thickness is 1.1” but you measured it at 1.250. I thought this was going to fall into the thin line category. Is the text block 1.1 and the cover is adding the additional thickness you measured? Thank you in advance.
Yes. Publishers always measure the trim size, which is the text-block only. Most Bibles are available in multiple covers and they have different thicknesses and yapps. I always measure the cover size because that's the size you need to know for it to fit into a case. The trim size is 1.1".
Ok Randy, this is one of the few calfskin bibles that I have seen that is edge-lined. I have the an ESV top grain bible that is edge-lined and I love it so much for the calfskin. I had an heirloom thinline in goatskin but I didn’t like the pebbly grain at all. Why don’t these publishers make more calfskin, edge-lined bibles??? Instead of these stiff calfskin? While I’m asking, do you prefer them with paste down or edge-lined and why
I'd love to see more calfskin with edge-lined liners. I like both for different reasons. Edge-lined 'should' last much longer than paste-down because of the construction method. At the same time, I'm not a fan of a stiff edge-lined tab. I like the way high-quality calfskin paste-down lays open without a hump. I want every page to stay open and lay as flat as possible. I also prefer a cover to be slightly stiff (but not rigid). I find overly floppy covers difficult to deal with (slightly floppy is nice) because I like to hold the Bible in one had to read.
@@BibleBuyingGuide My thing with the paste downs is that it feels stiff and not very high quality. Leather imitators look too similar to calfskin paste downs in quality and texture to me. If I'm going to pay more, I want it to feel nicer. Of course that's my opinion, there are positives and negatives of both types. Definitely do not like stiff hinges. I was not a fan of the super stiff heirloom thinline hinge. It was pretty tough to lay flat when you couple the hinge with the small thinline there just wasn't much weight to combat the hinge. I love my top grain wm esv though. It stays open any where and stays flat even on the presentation pages now that I've used it for about 18 months. I'd love it if they made a single column legacy with thicker paper in the top grain. They just released a trutone version of it. That might make a good review for you Randy. Hopefully they'll think about doing a top grain version of that one. That'd be an awesome reader for me. And not too expensive too boot! Love that layout of the SCL.
Looking forward to a KJV reader. I think it's going to be an enjoyable read... Much appreciated Randy...
The darker font is great. I do prefer black text over red. That would be the only off spot. But not a big deal.
Still love the Concord. But the Treveris will be my sit back/relax reader...
Finally an excellent size, close to the Caxton...
How would you say this fares when compared to the Canterbury in terms of a “reading Bible”
I prefer this one because of the paragraph layout, clean text, and poetic setting. The Canterbury is an excellent choice for a reference or preaching Bible, but for me, verse-by-verse and the distractions in the text are not ideal for reading.
@@BibleBuyingGuide thank you so much for replying. Appreciate your reviews immensely.
@@jimmahdajuice thank you!!
They have got to do more translations in this exact format, I’d get it but already have lots of kjv bibles including all my families kjv bibles laying around
If only they would make this single column in a verse by verse in KJV. I was about to buy this until I saw you need to search for where the verses begin and end.
Hello , is the calfskin leather thicker than their goatskin covers? I have the Canterbury (Goatskin) and the personal Size Canterbury calfskin but it has a pasted liner . I’m asking because I think I would like it to be more sturdy will laying back in a chair and reading 😁
It's hard to tell, but it might be slightly thinner than the goatskin.
I really don't see the purpose of this bible in light of how good the Canterbury is. Further, a new Canterbury is on the way--thinner with a full yapp. Also, for a reading bible, the Cambridge Turquoise or the Nelson Giant Print are better easy reading options with more useful features.
Many folks, myself included, prefer single column text. Also, many KJV folks don’t want references, chapter headings, superscripts and all the other junk in the text. We want a clean presentation and premium binding of the word of God that we can just sit and read without all the extras. Treveris is perfect
I wasn't too excited about this release because I can resad just fine in VBV texts. But as I see it now, it is somewhat unique.
very nice review ! I'd love to have one of these great KJV bibles in Goatskin with full yapp..I've had bibles recovered in Sakota Goatskin and the cost was way above the cost of this bible in goatskin and what this great bible has is what I paid for to get mine recovered bibles to look like..Hmmm !! No-brainer here..although i need the largest font size they make on these bibles.. my eyes aren't like they were 50 years ago. your smaller bibles looks like it would be compared to a Cameo Cambridge
Hi Randy, do you prefer Treveris or Clarion, and why?
That's a tough one. I'd probably choose the Clarion because I like the size. I also like that it fixes broken sentences (like 98:9). The Treveris is easier to read, though, because of the larger and darker font, and it highlights OT quotes in a poetic setting.
I followed the link but didn't see a way to buy it. Is there a direct link to buy it?
Hi Bryan. Unfortunately, it's out of stock. I'm not sure when they'll get it back in, but they are planning to print it again.
the most impressive premium bible I want to get in ESV in the future.
I'm starting to like it. the single column gives me Clarion vibes which I like.
Beautiful bible man. Been caring around my Strand study bible which I love, best KJV study Bible ever. Canterbury is on my buy list tho. I mark my go to scriptures, I'm a verse by verse man.
Perfect size and yapp for NKJV Quentel, hope they make it one day
When will the Humble Lamb Lion be reviewed?
I'm not sure. There have been some delays because of the quarantines.
I ordered one of the new Paste down Humble lambs only because thats all they had available.
I have the NASB in single column text..SCT.
And side column references SCR. From Nelson. It is great. But I prefer the PREACHING BIBLE layout.
Verse by verse. In BLUE #s.
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Thanks, does it have the subscriptions after Paul's epistles?
Hi Joey. It does not include them.
Bible Buying Guide thanks for letting me know!
I’ve noticed an issue with the print in my black goatskin Treveris. The Red letter is often set a little lower than the black letter text. Matt 16:13 the black leading into the red it clearly on the same line but Matt 17:22-23 the red text is about .020 lower than the black. Those are just some example scriptures, it is an ongoing theme through my whole Bible’s red to black letter transitions. Still love this bible. It’s my personal favorite. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed this.
Red is always printed in a second pass through the printer and they don't always get the pages lined up perfectly. I haven't noticed any variation in mine. I'll be looking for it.
Bible Buying Guide Thanks for the info, can always count on you Randy.
Please make NKJV or ESV version!
will that bible be in bible giveaway
Is Treveris using Cambridge text?
Do you mean the 1873 Cambridge by Scrivener?
Or the 1900 Pure Cambridge Edition (I ask because this one isn't actually from Cambridge University Press)
@@BibleBuyingGuide I am asking for 1900. Thanks.
Looks good but I’m glad I went with a Turquoise over this one.
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@@henriquemeiralins I do and I am! Praise God. Romans 9 is a beautiful chapter and couldn't be more clear on the subject!
Doesn’t take its shape in the wrap really either
Red letter in paragraph format is too much in my opinion.
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Very very nice.
Yapp, that's a nice looking bible.
Whoooohoooo!