Tekin 1/10th and 1/8th Scale Motor Compare

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  • Here's a video showing the size and application for several different sized Brushless Motors. In the video I show a Generic 540 sized Motor, a Tekin Pro4HD 550 sized, a Tekin T8 Gen 2 4030 Buggy Sized and a Tekin T8 Gen 2 4038 Sized Truggy motor.
    Want to check out these motors and more?
    bit.ly/2R0zb0a

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  • @SHAYEN-cd5qw
    @SHAYEN-cd5qw 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing that Rich, all those motors are impressive.

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shayen RC Enthusiast. I happen to have them all out of vehicles at that time.....thought I would share. I never really knew there were two lengths of 1/8th scale about a year ago....

  • @DarkSharkzRC
    @DarkSharkzRC 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alright! Thanks! Off to buy a hotwire system😂 thanks for the help! Keep up the good work! I watch all of your vids

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darksharkracing Good deal!

  • @twisthiltz4779
    @twisthiltz4779 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video & excellent info, thanks for sharing!!

  • @Mrtojo
    @Mrtojo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice! They all look nice!

  • @RcNickster709
    @RcNickster709 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting. So I am wondering? I have run the standard 55T 35T and 27T Brushed motors with AE esc. I am looking at getting a Brushless system. What would you recommend for a Axial Scx10. Weights in at about 8-10 lbs... Price is a concern. I would like to keep it around $200... Thanks for the vid

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RcNickster Hey Nick, the SCX10 is such a versatile platform, and with the right upgrades, can easily take on brushless power. Having been bitten by the Axial bug, I have an SCX10 headed in to The RCNetwork to begin a new project. My plans include dropping in a Tekin Roc412 - 2300kv with a RS Gen2. You can find the combo for right around $200 at all the big places, maybe less with coupons......The nice thing is you can control the speed/torque by what battery you run. For huge torque and crawling, use a 2s....want faster than walking speed for G6's - use a 3s....lastly, the motor is 4s capable, but the RS is only 2s/3s - Add an RX8 Gen 2 to run 4s for blistering speeds (for an SCX10!) The main thing, is you will be running a sensored setup, so you'll have buttery smooth throttle control. Hope this helps

    • @RcNickster709
      @RcNickster709 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      It sure does help me out..... I am a fan of the "buttery Smooth" control myself lol. High speed ? not so much. The G6 kinda feel...really appreciate ya taking time to respond. Thanks so much...

  • @RcOffroad9513
    @RcOffroad9513 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive been racing for about 6 months and have been running a truggy size motor in my buggy. (Mbx7 eco) I just bought a buggy motor (4068) and am looking forward to trying it out. This one is 2050kv where the truggy motor was 2000kv so speed should be about the same. Im hoping that it will smooth things out a bit, so I can get faster lap times. I drove a friends buggy, and it was smoother and less powerfull, but My lap times with his, were faster, and more consistant. Any thoughts on this subject? Great video! Thanks!

  • @electropalsceo
    @electropalsceo 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the info, great stuff

  • @johnnydavis8489
    @johnnydavis8489 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would a tekin 4030 t8 buggy motor fit the axial yeti 1/10 scale. Or is pro4 hd the largest one that will fit ? Which motor pinion tooth would you recommend. You’ve probably tried many. Love your videos Rich !!

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Johnny Davis the Pro4HD fit with only a few mm to spare (remember the sensor wire). Check the size differences on the T8 and Pro4HD and see - the Yeti won’t be able to take much on that T8 though. The driveline will start deteriorating quick on that torque.

  • @nathanmurphy9387
    @nathanmurphy9387 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a savage flux xs and for 1/12 scale its pretty heavy, about 10 pounds, and the stock 540 4000kv motor has heat issues even on 2s.. I would obviously go for a pro4hd but I'm limited to can size no longer than 60mm due to the placement on the chassis. I was looking at the TT2502 pro4 3300kv 540 size motor and was wondering if it would have heat issues running on 2 or 3s on a rather heavier setup. Do you have any suggestions?

  • @oscaraguilar1116
    @oscaraguilar1116 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I purchased the WlToys 12428 and i want to change the engine for a faster one, just the engine, could you recommend 1 or 2 types? If you have a link where I can buy it, it would be great!

  • @DJ-nh5lh
    @DJ-nh5lh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, very helpful

  • @daviddroescher
    @daviddroescher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I currently have a T8I (36mm OD w/finns) 1600kv /momba max setup in my Wraith , both failed from a snow run and bad maintenance. Truck is 20lbs . What 540/550 4pole be able to freeze the same kind of power and Torque from a dead stop. I like watching the tires wrap around the wheel like a Top Fuel drag car and then the truck jump in the air from a blip of the throttle.
    Ideal in my mind would be 6pole same size can as the T8I

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have a wraith that's 20lbs?? My fully built Wriath from Mattzilla - literally every part is aluminum or steel weighs in at about 10 lbs, or just shy. I don't think any 540/550 can handle 20 lbs. After all, most 540's are meant for 5lbs-7lbs and 550's usually are for the heavier SCT's/Crawlers at 7-10lbs

    • @daviddroescher
      @daviddroescher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRCNetwork yes it's exceedingly heavy hence the 4pole 8th scale motor, it has performed beautifully till I failed to do my after snow maintenance. Gearing is 29/80 /built trans/ OD r&p front UD r&p rear, 5.75"/5" tires . On 2cell it has comprable speed to the stock 27 t ,3cell is comprable to a 3600kv w/ 12/80 3 cell

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daviddroescher Honestly, I'd keep the 1/8th scale motor in there if it fits. Drop your gearing down and run 4s. I'm surprised you haven't puffed 2 cells on that combo/weight. Even 3cells would be challenged moving that weight.

    • @daviddroescher
      @daviddroescher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRCNetwork th-cam.com/video/kXod8nsq66k/w-d-xo.html
      Hears aclip of it on sun rise mountain in Las Vegas. My wheels are 4oz ea +48oz led weights. There is 5lbs in just the wheels.

  • @-Kable
    @-Kable 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would the 1/8 scale motor you showed last work good in a tekno sct410.3 for racing?

  • @mojitos116
    @mojitos116 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would you recommend for losi 22 4.0 or a team associated 10b64D motor combo?

  • @jackmcmurtrie271
    @jackmcmurtrie271 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there i was thinken about putting an electric motor on my bicycle and i would like it to go pretty good which electric motor would you recommend ty for the video

    • @jordannorfleet785
      @jordannorfleet785 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jack Mcmurtrie I think you’re looking at the wrong type of motors.

  • @Rcd872
    @Rcd872 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job!

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Pete!

    • @Rcd872
      @Rcd872 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The RCNetwork do more. I’ve learned so much more about this hobby from videos like this. How about a soldering video. An actual solder, from tinning the tip and soldering contacts to soldering a battery wire to a connector

  • @2cwik4u104
    @2cwik4u104 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    question for you. I run the mm2 with the 2200kv motor in my 100mph cars. what would you say would be tekins equivalent in motor?

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      2cwik4u104 The 2200kv is the larger canned MM motor....With that, which car are you putting it in? Specifically what weight? I'm not sure you'd need the larger 4038 Tekin can, since they offer a variety of kv options unlike Castle. As an example, you can get a T8 from 1400kv to 2650kv, or 6 different kvs.

    • @2cwik4u104
      @2cwik4u104 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      ive never weighed any of my cars. I run it in an ALL aluminum rustler (106mph), guessing close to 12lbs and a stock gtp2e (121mph). guessing around 9lbs.

    • @cnnlt200
      @cnnlt200 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had both. Have the 4038 2050 kV in my losi lst. Has tons of power. I can crawl with it if I want to. Castle maybe has a bit more punch. But I manage to break my rear diff all the time with my tekin on 4s so don't think it its necessary

  • @LTT.Official
    @LTT.Official 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would you recommend for a converted old Revo 3.3. Recently bought the Tekno conversion kit and just contemplating what motor and esc to drop in.

    • @Cooldibs
      @Cooldibs 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      I recommend the tekin t8 whatever mc you like 2200kv to 2800kv

    • @LTT.Official
      @LTT.Official 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you kind stranger Cooldibs

  • @josephbones7935
    @josephbones7935 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Greetings to you sir, I had just watched you video on the different Tekin motors, I have a traxxas Summit 1/10 scale truck, would the Tekin T8 Gen 2 4038 Sized Truggy motor work for my Summit?

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Joseph Bones It will bolt in......but double check the length of the current can of your motor vs the 4038. The 4038's are 77mm in length and the 4030's are 69mm in length.

    • @josephbones7935
      @josephbones7935 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you sir, I am looking to upgrade my Bone Stock Summit, (Going from Brushed to Brushless) and I understand that there are a lot of different motors out there, I am trying to learn more about the Motors.

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Joseph Bones The Tekin motors have raw power and are super smooth. You'll need the Tekin RX8 Gen 2 ESC to power it the best. It's a great system overall and is sensored - which means it is really smooth and efficient even at very low RPMs. Most cheaper systems will be sensorless and will have "cogging" issues at low RPM if you plan to cral at all with the Summit. Other than that, you'll have to plan on a kv that will suit your driving style.

    • @josephbones7935
      @josephbones7935 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you again for help..

  • @jamesblocker5235
    @jamesblocker5235 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All the power you need tekin

  • @flashhobbies
    @flashhobbies 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you tell me the difference between the pro 4 and pro 4 had? I got a pro4 for my custom build

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Flash Hobbies Yep. The Pro4HD will have more torque overall, and run cooler than the Pro4. It all depends on the weight of the rig you're building.

    • @flashhobbies
      @flashhobbies 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the info, the rig i'm building now will be about 13lbs

  • @JohnSmith-ir5pv
    @JohnSmith-ir5pv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the yeti xl t8 kv? I have a t8 in my xl at 2000kv on 6s but trying to figure out if I should drop down to the 1350kv because the weight. Any help would be greatly appreciated

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a 2000kv….but I only ran the Yeti XL on 4s. It had plenty of power

    • @JohnSmith-ir5pv
      @JohnSmith-ir5pv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRCNetwork thank you for the reply. So if I switch to the 1350 will I only be gaining torque on 6s?

  • @MA-bq8yg
    @MA-bq8yg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello thanks for the video and explanation. Does it exist sensor motor 28mm? Thanks

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't seen it, if it does.

    • @MA-bq8yg
      @MA-bq8yg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok. Thanks for your feedback.

  • @LUKEYLEE33
    @LUKEYLEE33 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you'd think would fit a 1/12 scale truck?

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      MAybe the smallest size (540) but you'll have to check the specs of your truck and if the motor mount will allow it to fit

  • @theirishaxe9405
    @theirishaxe9405 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey man quick question how do the numbers 540 and 550 relate to 3650 and 3660 and 3670 ? What's the correlation? Thank you

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      John Smith most manufacturers (like HobbyWing) use 4 digit numbers like that. 36 would mean the can diameter and the second would be the can length (without the motor shaft). For HobbyWing, a 3660 is a 550 sized motor. Their 3652 is a 540 sized.

    • @theirishaxe9405
      @theirishaxe9405 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRCNetwork cool thank you! I'm trying to find out if I can fit a 3670 to my stampede so the diameter is the same but just longer than a 3650 correct? Thanks

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Smith it should be....check the manufacturers spec sheet for the motor. They should list diameter and length

    • @theirishaxe9405
      @theirishaxe9405 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRCNetwork thanks 👍👊

  • @rprado745
    @rprado745 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just came up on a tekin eb48.2 roller. What electronics do you recommend?

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The RX8 Gen 3 and the T8 1900 from Tekin - bolt right in and are a great combo

    • @rprado745
      @rprado745 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The RCNetwork cool thanks, also which servo, pinion gear and batteries should I use? Sorry for all the questions I’m new to the hobby.

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ramiro Prado servo wise, get something with at least 300 oz/in of torque, and about .10 seconds or less. Pinion - start with a 15t to start, it really depends on your track/terrain and how much the buggy weighs.

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ramiro Prado and you’ll want 4s 5000mah Lipo batteries. The GensAce versions are what I use

  • @DarkSharkzRC
    @DarkSharkzRC 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey can you help me? I have just bought a tekin rx8 gen1 1/8 system. And I seems to be underpowered. I here they should be fast and Ming is slower than a brushed system on 2s thanks dark_sharks

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darksharkracing Do you have reverse engaged on the ESC settings? If so, does reverse seem more powered than forward? If it does, reverse your radio settings to reflect the opposite (if you pull the throttle, it should go in reverse...) Then, go into the Hotwire app and manually reverse the motor. Not sure why this happens, but I had an issue with my set up from my Axial Yeti XL - Might be the way the motor faces on the chassis...

  • @Piaspeedy
    @Piaspeedy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im getting a 1/8 motor for my ecx amp😳 mine is fast already

  • @vicerichter1163
    @vicerichter1163 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What can fit in my rukus rc car with the srx reciever?

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A direct fit would be the Pro4 motor - maybe the 4600kv - it should bolt right in....but you'l need an appropriate esc to handle that motor and a pinion with a 5mm shaft

    • @vicerichter1163
      @vicerichter1163 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRCNetwork i found a firma combo with a 3300kv motor. Same size and everything. 3mm shaft so it should fit the gear. what you think?

  • @Valdemar-Perez-III
    @Valdemar-Perez-III 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would a pro4 be good with a mamba max pro or with an rx8?

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Donkey Commander the RX8 will run much smoother and be able to control that motor better - about 4 years ago, I tried saving a buck and partnered the Pro4 4600 with the MMP and nothing but heat issues from day one. No matter the gearing or battery, the ESC was clear over 175 most of the time. I installed the RX8 and it never hit above 110.

  • @pret98
    @pret98 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What kv of t8 4030 and 4038 motor code number?

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's a range for both. 4030 is buggy sized and 4038 is truggy sized

  • @tylerfigs
    @tylerfigs 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a losi 8ight im gonna race im converting it to nitro so i wanna spend around 200$ on the motor esc combo any suggestions? and im getting a tamiya !/8 truggy and around the same ball park their

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      tylerfigs Really tough pricepoint for an 1/8th scale system that's decent......Maybe check out a HobbyWing....My local shop has this for $254 and includes a program card....www.nitrohouse.com/Hobbywing-Sct-Pro-Combo-Pack_p_17486.html

    • @tylerfigs
      @tylerfigs 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      i was thinking a ezrun system but i wanted you thoughts on it

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      tylerfigs Also good, from what I hear

  • @nicholassalapoutis2829
    @nicholassalapoutis2829 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    what would be a good motor to run in axial yet

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tekin Pro4HD 3000kv. It's what I ran in mine

  • @brogank165
    @brogank165 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What would fit a Traxxas stampede two wheel drive

  • @mtctookie25
    @mtctookie25 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool

  • @sarfrazali7652
    @sarfrazali7652 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tnx boss....
    MFG

  • @SilentlineProduction
    @SilentlineProduction 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    On a D413 would it be better competition wise to use a 540 or 550?

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think 550 is even allowed in 4wd buggy.....plus, it would throw off the balance. 540 is plenty.

    • @SilentlineProduction
      @SilentlineProduction 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +The RCNetwork I was actually just in tower hobbies n realized that the redline gen2's are not available because they are being replaced by these black Gen 3's have any experience with redline Gen3

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jonathan Postell II I have one on it's way to me....it will be going in my D413. I honestly haven't read the specs yet, but I'm sure it's lighter and more efficient with more cooling vents

    • @SilentlineProduction
      @SilentlineProduction 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +The RCNetwork nice I'll be ordering it soon as it's back in stock, thnx for the replies and keep up with the D413 updates luv them

    • @SilentlineProduction
      @SilentlineProduction 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jonathan Postell II D815 build next???

  • @flyinbrianhutch3371
    @flyinbrianhutch3371 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subbed awesome video..

  • @xXBallsackGamingXx
    @xXBallsackGamingXx 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So almost all 1:10th scale cars use 540 and 550 size motors? I need to know.

  • @joonatantjader5328
    @joonatantjader5328 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What motor should i buy for kyosho dirt hog

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It will only need a 540 sized motor, and I would stick to a 17.5t

  • @RCJohnny
    @RCJohnny 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool !!

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      RC Johnny Thanks Johnny!

  • @davegrasser2774
    @davegrasser2774 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would a castle slate 2850kv 10th scale motor be about the same all around as the tekin t8 1/8 scale 2000kv?

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not even close. The 2850 is a 540 sized motor - although its a lower kv and capable of using from 2s to 4s, it doesn't have the torque to push around heavier vehicles like the T8 does. The 2850 has a 3.2mm motor shaft, vs the 5mm of the T8. The T8 is just a larger motor over all, intended for 1/8th scale applications and can push heavier loads. It really depends on what vehicle you're putting it into.

    • @davegrasser2774
      @davegrasser2774 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      my buddy has the tekin in his 6th scale custom trail truck and the castle is in a scx10 i was just curious if hes still gonna be faster lol

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Tekin system can push around more weight of that 1/6th scale....the SCX10 only needs a 540 sized motor. Being fast is all about a mix of kv, gearing and voltage - but in an SCX10, it's not about speed, unless you're racing U4RC

    • @davegrasser2774
      @davegrasser2774 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      The RCNetwork no just screwing around on the trails making rooster tails with mud just having some good ole fun with some speed if I want lol

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at the new ROC412 HD from GTekin. It's now element proof and has tons of power....even down to the low 2000's in kv

  • @moviesnowme320
    @moviesnowme320 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    where to buy this type of motor at cheapest price

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most of Tekin stuff is price protected, so your best bet is a shop like Amain that you can use a coupon

  • @xraystunts7341
    @xraystunts7341 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a 1/14 scale motor for less than $£20 for my vaterra kalahari

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's possibilities out there....but you'll have to deal with pinion shaft size/pitch, etc when putting in a replacement motor. MAke sure you check. Check out my Mini 8ight T video series, where I go over possible motors for the 1/14th siaze vehciles: th-cam.com/play/PL5_p3gwitPIk2mrxxXz8vnumV1H5f6sxt.html

    • @xraystunts7341
      @xraystunts7341 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thx will check it out right now. Do you also know how to make my car immediately shift from forward to backwards.😉

  • @michaelinzitari
    @michaelinzitari 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This didnt help me at all but i still clicked like. you start with 540, then you move to 550, and then you completely change topic and talk about what Tekin name their motors. this doesnt help me. are you saying that there is no industry standard for the next size up, which is 1/8 buggy? and to make it worse, tekin call the next size up the T8 as well. exactly the same name for a larger motor?! surely there must be a better naming convention than "the longer 1/8 scale motor with lower KV thats used for heavier cars like truggy and monster trucks". i bet there is a proper name somebody will know it!!

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're looking for "industry standard" that's definitely not RC! Motor can sizes are all over the board.....like you saw in the video - 540 and 550 can sizes are common in 1/10th scales. I've seen it referenced once by Team Orion where they call 1/8th scale buggy motors (thee 4030 T8 by Tekin) a 690 can. Usually for 1/8th scales you have to rely on kv and can size in mm. Sorry to confuse you, but it's like clarifying muddy water, TBH

    • @TheRCNetwork
      @TheRCNetwork  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, Tekin references the two different T8's as 4030 for buggy (69mm can) and 4038 for truggy (longer 74mm can)