Own this bike and agree with absolutely everything you said. I also left the fork clickers untouched, raised the preload and comp on the back a little bit and that was it, perfect. Im surprised with the performance of the STR tires, they work better than expected both on and offroad. Personally i run the display on the street settings because you can see more info at the same time and dont have to use the thumb-wheel all that much. As for the range: i ran a streets-only tour from germany to austria last sunday, keeping the speed within the limits to see how far it would go, and i got and average of 3.6L/100km, which gives out a range of 638Km. At first i thought my bike was crazy with those numbers on the display, but to my surprise the numbers checked out when i filled it up at the gas station. To make things even more interesting that ride was performed while the engine was still braking-in, so in theory it should get even better mileage after braking-in. All in all im in love with the bike, worth every penny, wouldnt trade it for anything. And thats coming from a honda-guy...
I'm also in Germany and considering the T7. My only hesitation is the lack of off-road riding here. I'm close to Würzburg and there isn't anything really in my area. I guess most people ride to czech or Poland for off-road?
@@deployeddan Greetings from Brandenburg. There is virtually no legal off-road possible in Germany. The Czech are also pretty strict with their forests. TET Poland is the nearest possibility to go offroading legally. From Würzburg you could also go along the TET Balkans (Slovenia, Croatia etc.) But nothing near you for a quick ride, sorry.
Great review. I have a standard T7 since 2019 with tractive closed cartridges and shock. The stock T7 also has KYB suspension, only it is 20mm piston and way more rudimentary damping. We had the World Raid here in europe for more than a year now and I could test it intensively, suspension is very good stock, 90% of people wont need to modify, I have seen the internals with Kashima coating and pistons are 25mm with double regulation top bottom in each leg. Only negative is that even with lower COG, the bike feels heavier in technical terrain than a standard T7. For me the ideal is the Extreme edition, same suspension than the WR but in standard fuel tank trim.
For adv content your putting out some of the best content out there. Production qualities are pretty dam good mate. Cheers from the Canadian section of your viewers :-)
Hard to believe you don’t have a couple of million subs. In my opinion, you should make more of an ask for people to subscribe. Always look forward to seeing a new video from you folks… Blessings to y’all 701 rider from Snohomish USA
Great review as always boys just needed to throw a bit more in about the new screen and all the functions and modes of it great review though on an awesome bike 🤙🤙🤙
One of your American fans here. Too late😖. But, I LOVE my T7. There are a handful of bits on the Raid I would like to have. Overall, I am still plenty happy with my black and white sweetheart and her blue shoes. Thank you Dave. Always good fun to watch.
Weepy eyed American here, definitely lamenting not getting the T7 WR in the states but… the competition of ADVs from $12,000-$17,000usd is incredibly tight. For just the base 2024 Tenere with the updated dash, I was quoted a price within $500usd (an 2-4 month wait) of a negotiated price on an Aprilia Tuareg. Kitting out (suspension, seat, tank) a T7 puts you with in spitting range of a ~$17k Desert X Those are two excellent bikes, for nearly the same price, in the name of Yamaha reliability and dealer network. Ultimately I’m waiting until next season to see how the BMW F900 reviews. Looks to be the perfect mix of both near Japanese reliability and near Italian performance.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I’ll be tuning in for your BMW review! Y’all do a far better job than the big time journos at truly testing bikes and putting them through their paces.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Look forward to that one . Had a look at both side by side today , geez the rally raid is tall but i guess the pimped T7 will be taller too . I’m only 5,8 so everything i look at seems big though.
When she brought her sister we had those. Good looking bikes. What our Tenere should have been from the beginning. Camel ADV and HP Corse have solutions to the brake/pipe shortcomings. Some fast tracking with Adam. May have been somewhere near the chin or nose level. Good job Dave. Informative. Glad you got the suspension settings in hand. Good to know. Maybe I can carve them in stone with a stick while I wait for one to arrive in USA. A representative real world review. Loved the last shot with Nugget. His personal cow will feel neglected now. See you all on the next go around. Thanks.
I certainly would love a ride along on that. Got some issues, Knees to take care of, This pensioner time is also rebuild time for the body. Damn it. Safe travels for you@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
Ridden mine for 3k+km loving it, just wish the fuel gauge was a little more accurate. My build pretty much completed, just a little odd buts and bobs and shes done !
Fantastic review Dave and Clubby. Best ADV channel on TH-cam. You certainly know how to handle “the clidders” 😂. Quick question which was the better suspension for your riding, the KYB on the World Raid or the WP xplor on the 901 Expedition?
Great info as always and thank you. I just went ahead and got the standard T7 and am super happy with it and about to send the suspension off for upgrades. I would’ve liked to wait, but heck the standard T7 is just so hard to get and I can only imagine how hard the World Raid will be to acquire. I’ve known people to be waiting over 8 months for one around my parts of Texas.
I live in the PNW region of the US and my city's yamaha dealership got a shipment of like 12 T7s, 8 of them were sold before they even arrived. They were also selling them for like $14k otd which is pretty insane.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Yeah I saw that episode and really looking forward to how mine will feel when It’s all put back together. Thanks for the info on that as well😎👍
@@Michael_Shay Exactly, so I can’t even imagine how the world raid will be. I, and probably you also, have seen used with 5 to 6k miles going for $10 to $12k. The T7 market over here is just insane. Personally I just wanted one to replace my dirt bike. So far I’m not disappointed.I just have to go a tad slower on the trails due to the suspension.
@BigDaveTALKS yeah there basically isn't any used T7s here for sale under msrp. I do see a lot that are being sold with almost every mod possible, some for over msrp. I don't quite have the budget for a T7 even if the pricing was normal so I just keep rocking it with my DR650. I'm not quite at the skill level I'd want to be at for a T7 anyways. I did rent one and I really liked it. The riding position was basically perfect for me.
I really hope that we will get it in South Africa been asking the dealerships but now word yet. Will stick with my 660z and hopefully we will get it in the next year or so.
All i did to my own suspension is add a bit of pre load , about 18 clicks to front and back . This got rid of the initial dive of the front suspension at slow speed maneuvering . the Bike feels tighter now and copes well with my weight !..
the only thing i can't explain on this bike is why Yamaha got rid of the quick shifter pre-wiring , which is on all standard T7 , on the World Raid ..? any idea?
Very informative review, as always. Fuel range aside, how do you think this World Raid compares to the Aprilia Tuareg? I suspect the Aprilia would be more nimble and manageble in slow technical trails given the lower weight and seat height, though I haven't tried them first hand.
As I keep saying there are five brands of bikes soooo close for different reasons. In Australia there are only 15 outlets for Aprillia and it is an untested brand, although those that have them, love them. In a week I'll be posting interviews from Aussie riders from the Dirty Weekend, I'd encourage you to watch that.
I would like to see a side by side comparison of this to the Aprilia Taureg 660. Not a spec sheet comparison, but an actual ride it on a 2 or 3 day adventure trip type of comparison.
@11:04 the menu scroll wheel is pushed wrong. You should push upward on the scroll wheel to interact. Not inwards. The microswitch behind the scrollwheel is right under the starter/killswitch. So you have a 50/50% chance to miss the swicth if you push the scrollwheel strait.
Seat height is lower than my raised XT660Z at 905mm. So this would be a treat with lower seat height and center of gravity! Also, I am 2 meters tall so flat footing with a big bend! Nice!
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So…just watched the show and am so excited to get my hands on one…I’m here in Canada where I’ll have to put my excitement into the future. I have a 21 T7 and absolutely love it….so much so my 23 Norden 901 sits idle and lonely. I’ll need to sell it because my bias is always towards the T7….just came back from a 4,000km dirt adventure. Why can’t I adapt to the 901….I feel like there’s just something missing….can’t put my finger on it but I’ve tried….I’ll be patient and wait for the new World Raid. Thanks Mate…. Allan
Morning coffee and a MAD vid? Life is good. Would be better if the WR was available here in the US. Installing the DesertX crash bars and waterpump protection bar today. 4.2k miles without a drop so far, no more tempting fate. EDIT; Would be interested in knowing real world wet weight. My DDX is 478 lbs wet, have the cat deleted Termi race exhaust/EVO tune, heavy duty bash plate, bar bag and accessory mount w/Garmin GPS. Removed the rear pegs. I would think the WR is around the same weight. My triple rail trailer would look great heading to Colorado with a pair of white WRs flanking my white DDX. Both of my sons want to see this happen. Yamaha.....make this happen.
Great show!! You guys are the best! Question about Greg Yager´s bike. What panner racks does he use? I belive he says " Its our own". Cant find it on their website, perhaps it´s special made just for their bikes? Also, what is the bash plate? He says "OS"? Wat is that? :) Thank you in advance. Hope you can answer that. Tobias, Sweden
I saw a video of a French guy, 'La Vadrouille' (The Mop), on a World Raid in West Africa and the cross-rut handling on a muddy road was quite good - IMO. Otherwise, he mimicked some of the route done earlier by another French guy, 'Lolo Cochet', on the standard version (Ohlins shock). Anecdotally, the T7 has proven itself durable in deep sand and mud.
I bought the T700 Extreme Edition, which has the same suspension elements as the WR - front fork, rear shock. For me the best option, and the price is only slightly higher than the standard T7. Here in Germany you get the model year 22 of the WR from 11500€, the same price as the normal T7 model year 23. The prices for the WR have fallen significantly!!!
Dave, how does the World Raid suspension compare to your T7 with the updated Rally Raid suspension? I purchased and installed the Rally Raid suspension for my T7 based on your testing and video. Paul, Arizona, USA
Hi Dave! Great review as usual. I'm curious about the pre load on the front forks. Did you make any adjustment or left it as is. I'd like education re fork pre load as I understand the rear OK, but not too sure re front fork and how to set up. Keep up the great videos! 👍😁
Great vid and agree with all. Extremely happy with my world raid so far. Would only recommend a tyre upgrade from standard for dirt running but standard tyres are great for the black stuff. Question - can you show how you mounted the giant loop soft luggage on bike without racks please.
Pirelli Rallys would make all the difference. to mount the Giant Loop soft luggage is used a proghorn strap around the back guard behind the seat and taped everything up to prevent any abrasions.
Excellent video as per usual. I’m very impressed with that new T-7. Yet I’m inextricably married to my Tiger 800. Well and truly done guys. BTW you 2 blokes have got the worlds best job EVER!!!!! P.S. not funny saying in America we spend rubles 🤬.
You are pressing the tft screen roller button in the wrong direction, and hence why it hurts your finger. It it needs to be pressed more upwards than forwards - it is counter intuitive but works. Not sure why Yamaha would mis-align the button in this way?
American here and I appreciate the video! I've been waiting for this to hit our shores for some time. I may have missed it but what USD $ price point will this be offered at in the states?
19 kg of luggage but you didn’t mention your weight. Would like to know the total weight the bike was carrying so I can calculate if I would need an aftermarket rear shock. Cheers Dave. Great video and info 👍
Really wanting to move from my 1250GSA to a middleweight ADV bike soon. Wishing we had these in the US. May have to go 890R or Norden Expedition if one of those show up near by.
there is an excellent kit that sorts the exhaust routing proper, it is about 600 GBp, it has a replacement can and connecting pipe - channel in bulgaria did a demo of it, 'motorcycle adventure' or something he is called and has had T7 forever
I tried that on a tdm. Shoockingly better than you might imagine! I loved my 750 Africa twin too but some s#!te bags in Paris seemed to like it even more. Took it in a van from the hotel car park. The French police said and I quote " that's a shame"
Great content as always. Quick question - you mentioned you run different pressures on the really rocky stuff. What would you suggest for a standard T7 on such terrain? Thanks 😊
I wonder if the aussie bike has different setup from factory than the EU bikes. For our measurements have shown that the nrs are exactly as soft as for the regular t7. so basically anybody who knows how to ride and weighs more than 75kg, will need to upgrade rear spring and damping control. also - the bottom-out is far sooner than people think. And then there is the weight. With the regular t7 and 25l safari tank one gets away with about 210kg. With this and crash bars etc - we see them starting at 230++kg and that weight is sitting really high. It is capable of being comfy and well tractable, but it should be lighter considerably, to be "competitive". But then again, it is a lot cheaper than competition. at least in europe.
The only thing I would ask for is apple + android car play. So every time I get off the bike I don’t have to push my kit into my pockets then put it back on when I come back out the shop. My reason is Adventure bikes air long distance and tall folk so just to have NAV at your fingertips is so helpful. I agree with the bolt what you want thing but phone on handle bars is just not for me. Even if it was and optional extra to have NAV built in I would buy. I didn’t quite catch the reason you put the bike back to stock hight and what’s your opinion on the new lowered explore version.
And yet dealers/salesman in the US keep saying the World Raid isn't coming here. I heard it just yesterday, though that may have had something to do with the 890AdvR and T700 on the floor they were trying to sell me...
Hi Dave 👋 is it as good as the 701 tho,coz I rapped my tenere round five trees ,well I think it was five ,I was knocked out cold ( rag doll ) my 701 seems to handle and turn quicker .
It reminds me of a ktm 1090 Adv R with less power and a tad more fuel range. Love the twin fuel tank ktm 990 Dakar look and thats its finally got the suspension it needed out of the box. Lets not talk about the price.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I'd have a hard time not picking the 890R then. I'd rather have the extra HP and lower lower weight balance of the 890R
Fantastic bike. I got all excited. Then I looked at the price tag. The are out the door for around 26k that's more than the new Ducati desert X. Mmmmm not as excited anyone. I think originally when the t7 cam out it was about 17k. The extra refinements come in as being very expensive. Is it really worth it?
Loved the video boys "I can't touch with both feet on the ground on tippy toes" yes BUT what height are you???? this was always the biggest error in motorcycle reviews! so again great film but let us know your/their height. Cheers
Hey man, Genuine question from an amateur rider. I am 5.10 ft at height , am i tall enough for this? What is your height? Does it still feel top heavy ? Thanks in advance.
I don't know your skill level. Picking a tall bike for your first can be problematic. You need to go into a shop and sit on one at the very least if not test ride one.
So Dave, are you going to upgrade the Tenere you own to the World Raid? It seems to me you have paid the price to upgrade your Tenere. Does the shiny new bike tempt you?
I'm thinking on getting a World Rally, not the most experient of riders to be honest, actually a newbie of sorts, amd my question is if you think if it would be better to lower the bike or to just suck it up, tip toe along, and hope for the best 😂...
dave... i was just thinkin... you should do a video on you warehouse, and compare in a walk through, all of your bikes, your a bit like the jay lenno of bikes.... and the brands just throw more at you..... then!!! i was watching "the apprentice adventurer" on his dog rooter, on a big trip... this guy is not your average bloke, hes actually one of those little shining lights within humanity, lighting the way for others. through his attitude and approach to life. hes a real champ... so the dog rooter is now rooted, and him and his mate towed it 150kms, shes fucked..... and im saying.... you cant ride all your bikes anymore, theres too manny. reach out to this lad and give him a bike. you diont hand out your treasures to every poor bastard with a broken bike, i realise that... but this ones worth it.
I'm about 6 foot and I'm in my tip toes on a world raid , way to tall for me, my desert x is about a inch lower for me , the suspension on the WR is still to soft for me,they been in the UK for ages , there a new one coming for 2024 😂
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV the extreme version is just a WR with a high mudguard and a option for a quick shifter and the e explorer ,they avaliable in the uk next year and this month the bew colours september/ October, then the basic tenere with optional quick shifter and couple new colours so I've read...why they haven't bumped up the engine to 900cc is baffling , the new f900gs bmw will be putting a nail in the coffin to the new models as the bmw is only couple hundred more in price and alot better electronics package and brakes and 195 bhp and looks real nice similar to the aprillia tuareg
We are all so so sooo sorry because Americans won’t get a chance to ride this bike. Can you share business cards of all Australian company owners in this video?
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV But you can tube a tubeless tire if you need to. But you can’t plug a tube if you want to. Or am I missing something here ?
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTVI don't like any of the others ,,,hope to see Yamaha make a tenere 900 in the raid version ,now that would open eyes ye
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Own this bike and agree with absolutely everything you said. I also left the fork clickers untouched, raised the preload and comp on the back a little bit and that was it, perfect. Im surprised with the performance of the STR tires, they work better than expected both on and offroad. Personally i run the display on the street settings because you can see more info at the same time and dont have to use the thumb-wheel all that much. As for the range: i ran a streets-only tour from germany to austria last sunday, keeping the speed within the limits to see how far it would go, and i got and average of 3.6L/100km, which gives out a range of 638Km. At first i thought my bike was crazy with those numbers on the display, but to my surprise the numbers checked out when i filled it up at the gas station. To make things even more interesting that ride was performed while the engine was still braking-in, so in theory it should get even better mileage after braking-in. All in all im in love with the bike, worth every penny, wouldnt trade it for anything. And thats coming from a honda-guy...
Thanks for that.
I'm also in Germany and considering the T7. My only hesitation is the lack of off-road riding here. I'm close to Würzburg and there isn't anything really in my area. I guess most people ride to czech or Poland for off-road?
I'm not sure. @@deployeddan
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV sorry that question was for @Driftuner
@@deployeddan Greetings from Brandenburg. There is virtually no legal off-road possible in Germany. The Czech are also pretty strict with their forests. TET Poland is the nearest possibility to go offroading legally. From Würzburg you could also go along the TET Balkans (Slovenia, Croatia etc.)
But nothing near you for a quick ride, sorry.
Good to see Adam with the trusty war horse 🐎 with you guys
It was good fun.
Great review. I have a standard T7 since 2019 with tractive closed cartridges and shock. The stock T7 also has KYB suspension, only it is 20mm piston and way more rudimentary damping. We had the World Raid here in europe for more than a year now and I could test it intensively, suspension is very good stock, 90% of people wont need to modify, I have seen the internals with Kashima coating and pistons are 25mm with double regulation top bottom in each leg.
Only negative is that even with lower COG, the bike feels heavier in technical terrain than a standard T7. For me the ideal is the Extreme edition, same suspension than the WR but in standard fuel tank trim.
Thanks for you thoughts.
For adv content your putting out some of the best content out there.
Production qualities are pretty dam good mate.
Cheers from the Canadian section of your viewers :-)
Much appreciated!
Another great video Dave. But the end with Nugget destroying that cairn that you filmed in a past video just had me in stitches! Awesome!
Glad you enjoyed it. Yeha that was a classic.
Hard to believe you don’t have a couple of million subs. In my opinion, you should make more of an ask for people to subscribe. Always look forward to seeing a new video from you folks…
Blessings to y’all
701 rider from Snohomish USA
Thanks Kelly. I too would like more subs.
Went out and checked the clitters on my T7, thanks for the heads up!
Always check your clitters. :)
Your vids are always great! I’ll be watching!
Thanks mate.
Great video guys, cheers for the up-load 😎👍
Our pleasure!
Finally an adventure bike out of Japan with quality suspension. How painfully long has that taken. Well done Yamaha
We agree!
Except it’s out of France; apparently we can’t get it in the USA because we only get Japanese T7s….
Great review as always boys just needed to throw a bit more in about the new screen and all the functions and modes of it great review though on an awesome bike 🤙🤙🤙
Wasn't that wrapped in the screen, that thumb dial was a pain.
One of your American fans here. Too late😖. But, I LOVE my T7. There are a handful of bits on the Raid I would like to have. Overall, I am still plenty happy with my black and white sweetheart and her blue shoes.
Thank you Dave. Always good fun to watch.
Thank you. It's only when you push the suspension do you notice the difference, but that can easily be improved.
I'll keep saving for the World Raid 🤩.
Good
Love your channel. Greetings from Serbia!
S E R B I A weilcome!
Good stuff guys,thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
"Pennies or rubles , whatever you guys use over there" absolute fair shot !
A bit of tongue in cheek.
Weepy eyed American here, definitely lamenting not getting the T7 WR in the states but… the competition of ADVs from $12,000-$17,000usd is incredibly tight.
For just the base 2024 Tenere with the updated dash, I was quoted a price within $500usd (an 2-4 month wait) of a negotiated price on an Aprilia Tuareg.
Kitting out (suspension, seat, tank) a T7 puts you with in spitting range of a ~$17k Desert X
Those are two excellent bikes, for nearly the same price, in the name of Yamaha reliability and dealer network.
Ultimately I’m waiting until next season to see how the BMW F900 reviews. Looks to be the perfect mix of both near Japanese reliability and near Italian performance.
Raining great bikes. We'll be on the BMW pretty early.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I’ll be tuning in for your BMW review! Y’all do a far better job than the big time journos at truly testing bikes and putting them through their paces.
How does the World Raid compare to your and Clubys T7 with Ralley raid suspension and all the farkles .
@@anthonyschroeder7458 Now that's another video
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
Look forward to that one .
Had a look at both side by side today , geez the rally raid is tall but i guess the pimped T7 will be taller too . I’m only 5,8 so everything i look at seems big though.
When she brought her sister we had those. Good looking bikes. What our Tenere should have been from the beginning. Camel ADV and HP Corse have solutions to the brake/pipe shortcomings. Some fast tracking with Adam. May have been somewhere near the chin or nose level. Good job Dave. Informative. Glad you got the suspension settings in hand. Good to know. Maybe I can carve them in stone with a stick while I wait for one to arrive in USA. A representative real world review. Loved the last shot with Nugget. His personal cow will feel neglected now. See you all on the next go around. Thanks.
Thanks for watching Sam. Nugget and I head to the Himalayas in two weeks.
I certainly would love a ride along on that. Got some issues, Knees to take care of, This pensioner time is also rebuild time for the body. Damn it. Safe travels for you@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
I have the stock T7 and love it.
Ridden mine for 3k+km loving it, just wish the fuel gauge was a little more accurate.
My build pretty much completed, just a little odd buts and bobs and shes done !
I'd beg to differ, it just has a big reserve...over 100 kms.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV hahahaha, thanks that made my day~
Fantastic review Dave and Clubby. Best ADV channel on TH-cam. You certainly know how to handle “the clidders” 😂. Quick question which was the better suspension for your riding, the KYB on the World Raid or the WP xplor on the 901 Expedition?
very very close on the front and a little less close on the rear with 901 taking the win, I think.
Great info as always and thank you. I just went ahead and got the standard T7 and am super happy with it and about to send the suspension off for upgrades.
I would’ve liked to wait, but heck the standard T7 is just so hard to get and I can only imagine how hard the World Raid will be to acquire. I’ve known people to be waiting over 8 months for one around my parts of Texas.
Crazy. I love my Tenere now that the suspension is set up.
I live in the PNW region of the US and my city's yamaha dealership got a shipment of like 12 T7s, 8 of them were sold before they even arrived. They were also selling them for like $14k otd which is pretty insane.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Yeah I saw that episode and really looking forward to how mine will feel when It’s all put back together. Thanks for the info on that as well😎👍
@@Michael_Shay Exactly, so I can’t even imagine how the world raid will be. I, and probably you also, have seen used with 5 to 6k miles going for $10 to $12k. The T7 market over here is just insane. Personally I just wanted one to replace my dirt bike. So far I’m not disappointed.I just have to go a tad slower on the trails due to the suspension.
@BigDaveTALKS yeah there basically isn't any used T7s here for sale under msrp. I do see a lot that are being sold with almost every mod possible, some for over msrp. I don't quite have the budget for a T7 even if the pricing was normal so I just keep rocking it with my DR650. I'm not quite at the skill level I'd want to be at for a T7 anyways. I did rent one and I really liked it. The riding position was basically perfect for me.
The raid display very useful for roadbook events and adventures
Indeed it is!
Great job, maybe in 3 or 4 years Yamaha will send some to the USA... :)
It doesn't make sense. Your riding conditions are similar to ours.
It needs a adjustable front mud guard.
Great reviews an should be called “ test of truth”!!❤❤
Great job guys.🙏🙏👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧💎💎
Thank you
I really hope that we will get it in South Africa been asking the dealerships but now word yet. Will stick with my 660z and hopefully we will get it in the next year or so.
I hope it gets there
All i did to my own suspension is add a bit of pre load , about 18 clicks to front and back . This got rid of the initial dive of the front suspension at slow speed maneuvering . the Bike feels tighter now and copes well with my weight !..
the only thing i can't explain on this bike is why Yamaha got rid of the quick shifter pre-wiring , which is on all standard T7 , on the World Raid ..? any idea?
Nope.
Very informative review, as always. Fuel range aside, how do you think this World Raid compares to the Aprilia Tuareg? I suspect the Aprilia would be more nimble and manageble in slow technical trails given the lower weight and seat height, though I haven't tried them first hand.
As I keep saying there are five brands of bikes soooo close for different reasons. In Australia there are only 15 outlets for Aprillia and it is an untested brand, although those that have them, love them. In a week I'll be posting interviews from Aussie riders from the Dirty Weekend, I'd encourage you to watch that.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Looking forward to it then, cheers!
I would like to see a side by side comparison of this to the Aprilia Taureg 660. Not a spec sheet comparison, but an actual ride it on a 2 or 3 day adventure trip type of comparison.
It won't happen here, we have too much to do, But we have a thorough review of both bikes.
Great review Dave.
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@11:04 the menu scroll wheel is pushed wrong. You should push upward on the scroll wheel to interact. Not inwards. The microswitch behind the scrollwheel is right under the starter/killswitch. So you have a 50/50% chance to miss the swicth if you push the scrollwheel strait.
The switch on this bike had problems. In fact many switches have been problematic and have to be disassembled and altered.
Seat height is lower than my raised XT660Z at 905mm. So this would be a treat with lower seat height and center of gravity! Also, I am 2 meters tall so flat footing with a big bend! Nice!
You'd love it.
Mad review, I'll have a world raid in 2024. I have my WR450 for the fun crazy. Want an adventure bike for nice scenic rides.
How many of us shorter people would like a low seat height with the KYB suspension?...How about a 450 Tenere?
Hmmm
Tenere 450! I am in! I have the world raid myself already but I would buy it as well 🫡😅👍🏼 if it’s affordable
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RESPECT TO YOU AND HAVE TO AGREE WITH A LOT OF YOUR COMMENTS .
Glad you enjoy it!
So…just watched the show and am so excited to get my hands on one…I’m here in Canada where I’ll have to put my excitement into the future. I have a 21 T7 and absolutely love it….so much so my 23 Norden 901 sits idle and lonely. I’ll need to sell it because my bias is always towards the T7….just came back from a 4,000km dirt adventure. Why can’t I adapt to the 901….I feel like there’s just something missing….can’t put my finger on it but I’ve tried….I’ll be patient and wait for the new World Raid.
Thanks Mate….
Allan
Wirth the wait......unless you can't wait :)
Morning coffee and a MAD vid?
Life is good.
Would be better if the WR was available here in the US.
Installing the DesertX crash bars and waterpump protection bar today.
4.2k miles without a drop so far, no more tempting fate.
EDIT;
Would be interested in knowing real world wet weight.
My DDX is 478 lbs wet, have the cat deleted Termi race exhaust/EVO tune, heavy duty bash plate, bar bag and accessory mount w/Garmin GPS. Removed the rear pegs. I would think the WR is around the same weight.
My triple rail trailer would look great heading to Colorado with a pair of white WRs flanking my white DDX. Both of my sons want to see this happen.
Yamaha.....make this happen.
Don't know. But putting crash bars on that Desert X is crucial! It's a great ride.
My backyard… great part of the world for adventure!! 👌🏻
Sure is
Great show!! You guys are the best! Question about Greg Yager´s bike. What panner racks does he use? I belive he says " Its our own". Cant find it on their website, perhaps it´s special made just for their bikes? Also, what is the bash plate? He says "OS"? Wat is that? :) Thank you in advance. Hope you can answer that. Tobias, Sweden
Fantastic review guys! Wait, is it cruise control buttons on the left side?
No
Love the vids keep them coming! :)
Thanks
I saw a video of a French guy, 'La Vadrouille' (The Mop), on a World Raid in West Africa and the cross-rut handling on a muddy road was quite good - IMO. Otherwise, he mimicked some of the route done earlier by another French guy, 'Lolo Cochet', on the standard version (Ohlins shock). Anecdotally, the T7 has proven itself durable in deep sand and mud.
Thanks Chris
I bought the T700 Extreme Edition, which has the same suspension elements as the WR - front fork, rear shock. For me the best option, and the price is only slightly higher than the standard T7. Here in Germany you get the model year 22 of the WR from 11500€, the same price as the normal T7 model year 23. The prices for the WR have fallen significantly!!!
Thanks for that information. Very timely, I'll probably use it in my next video.
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Dave, how does the World Raid suspension compare to your T7 with the updated Rally Raid suspension? I purchased and installed the Rally Raid suspension for my T7 based on your testing and video. Paul, Arizona, USA
I'll do a video on the comparison between my bike and WR. I can't pick it between the front but my rear is better.
Hi Dave! Great review as usual. I'm curious about the pre load on the front forks. Did you make any adjustment or left it as is. I'd like education re fork pre load as I understand the rear OK, but not too sure re front fork and how to set up. Keep up the great videos! 👍😁
Yeah, didn't touch it at all.
Great vid and agree with all. Extremely happy with my world raid so far. Would only recommend a tyre upgrade from standard for dirt running but standard tyres are great for the black stuff. Question - can you show how you mounted the giant loop soft luggage on bike without racks please.
Pirelli Rallys would make all the difference. to mount the Giant Loop soft luggage is used a proghorn strap around the back guard behind the seat and taped everything up to prevent any abrasions.
Excellent video as per usual. I’m very impressed with that new T-7. Yet I’m inextricably married to my Tiger 800. Well and truly done guys. BTW you 2 blokes have got the worlds best job EVER!!!!! P.S. not funny saying in America we spend rubles 🤬.
Ha ha Rubles, look at my face when I say it :)
You are pressing the tft screen roller button in the wrong direction, and hence why it hurts your finger. It it needs to be pressed more upwards than forwards - it is counter intuitive but works. Not sure why Yamaha would mis-align the button in this way?
“Americans weep” We got a little choked up 😂 but they’ll be in the states eventually.
My advice, keep saving!
It Will be my bike número 3!! In my garage!! Surelly !
How come you didn’t built your own? What is stopping you cowboys to steal that engine too?
@@9W8o7l7f4 wtf are you talking about? Are you actually trying to bring politics into this? Get a life.
American here and I appreciate the video! I've been waiting for this to hit our shores for some time. I may have missed it but what USD $ price point will this be offered at in the states?
No idea. In Aus $25 K, but I caution there are price variations.
Thank you for a very informative review. Fingers crossed that we here in the USA will get the World Raid in 2025. Yamaha? #Yamaha @yamaha
what pannier rack is that that greg is running?
Who is Greg?
19 kg of luggage but you didn’t mention your weight. Would like to know the total weight the bike was carrying so I can calculate if I would need an aftermarket rear shock. Cheers Dave. Great video and info 👍
I was 94 kg then
Really wanting to move from my 1250GSA to a middleweight ADV bike soon. Wishing we had these in the US. May have to go 890R or Norden Expedition if one of those show up near by.
You should test ride an Aprilia Taureg 660.
Agree
Or an Aprillia?
Only one dealer near me and they offered me pennies for my 1250GSA to trade for a taureg.
@@brandonrides8953 Most dealers are offering 50% of book value on trades. Sell it to a private party.
there is an excellent kit that sorts the exhaust routing proper, it is about 600 GBp, it has a replacement can and connecting pipe - channel in bulgaria did a demo of it, 'motorcycle adventure' or something he is called and has had T7 forever
It was in this video towards the end.
Great to see you Dave so happy the world raid T7. Are you tempted to trade your T7 for this?
Yes
G’day
Question mate where and what brand is you gear vest ?
Cheers
KLiM Badlands Pro at that stage.
I tried that on a tdm. Shoockingly better than you might imagine! I loved my 750 Africa twin too but some s#!te bags in Paris seemed to like it even more. Took it in a van from the hotel car park. The French police said and I quote " that's a shame"
Sorry to hear that.
Great stuff fellas 😎
Glad you enjoyed it
Great content as always. Quick question - you mentioned you run different pressures on the really rocky stuff. What would you suggest for a standard T7 on such terrain? Thanks 😊
Around 23 psi although I generally run 19,5
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV thank you very much. Love your channel by the way. Fantastic content. 😊
I wonder if the aussie bike has different setup from factory than the EU bikes. For our measurements have shown that the nrs are exactly as soft as for the regular t7. so basically anybody who knows how to ride and weighs more than 75kg, will need to upgrade rear spring and damping control.
also - the bottom-out is far sooner than people think. And then there is the weight. With the regular t7 and 25l safari tank one gets away with about 210kg. With this and crash bars etc - we see them starting at 230++kg and that weight is sitting really high. It is capable of being comfy and well tractable, but it should be lighter considerably, to be "competitive". But then again, it is a lot cheaper than competition. at least in europe.
Thanks
The only thing I would ask for is apple + android car play. So every time I get off the bike I don’t have to push my kit into my pockets then put it back on when I come back out the shop. My reason is Adventure bikes air long distance and tall folk so just to have NAV at your fingertips is so helpful. I agree with the bolt what you want thing but phone on handle bars is just not for me. Even if it was and optional extra to have NAV built in I would buy.
I didn’t quite catch the reason you put the bike back to stock hight and what’s your opinion on the new lowered explore version.
Good points.
A good honest review , if you had a choice betwwen ktm 890 or the tenere wich one would you choose ?
Both are good bikes.
Hope the workshop manual has a step by step guide where to find the clitters.
Jeez I couldn't believe I said that.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Freudian slip.
No talk about the weight? It reminds me of my 2016 AT, but with better suspension and less horsepower. I’d love to demo one.
Forgot, sorry.
Cruise control and tubeless is all it needs and it would be my unicorn.
Yes cruise control would be good. Tubeless I'm not so sure.
And yet dealers/salesman in the US keep saying the World Raid isn't coming here. I heard it just yesterday, though that may have had something to do with the 890AdvR and T700 on the floor they were trying to sell me...
Exactly.
Hi Dave 👋 is it as good as the 701 tho,coz I rapped my tenere round five trees ,well I think it was five ,I was knocked out cold ( rag doll ) my 701 seems to handle and turn quicker .
701 does by miles.
It reminds me of a ktm 1090 Adv R with less power and a tad more fuel range. Love the twin fuel tank ktm 990 Dakar look and thats its finally got the suspension it needed out of the box. Lets not talk about the price.
Good points
Are you suggesting you've received confirmation from Yamaha that this beautiful beast is eventually coming to America or just a guess?
They're barely bringing in any base models, these will be a wet dream if they do eventually show up here
Highly possible but a delay due to import challenges.
How much more does it cost? Comparable in price to a KTM 890R?
Same Same
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I'd have a hard time not picking the 890R then. I'd rather have the extra HP and lower lower weight balance of the 890R
If they fitted "clitters" most blokes wouldn't be able to find them.
In fact, they may actually have done so, but you guys just couldn't locate them.
ha ha :)
Fantastic bike. I got all excited. Then I looked at the price tag.
The are out the door for around 26k that's more than the new Ducati desert X. Mmmmm not as excited anyone.
I think originally when the t7 cam out it was about 17k. The extra refinements come in as being very expensive. Is it really worth it?
I have a standard one. I think so.
Loved the video boys "I can't touch with both feet on the ground on tippy toes" yes BUT what height are you???? this was always the biggest error in motorcycle reviews! so again great film but let us know your/their height. Cheers
3:00 how tall are you sir? guessing 5'10 - 6 ft?
178cm 5 ft 10 ins.
That fuel economy is great considering 13L on a 400 cc will only deliver 200 mile range.
agree
Hope these come to Canada.
I'm not sure they do but keep hoping as they are a joy to ride.
Hey man, Genuine question from an amateur rider.
I am 5.10 ft at height , am i tall enough for this?
What is your height?
Does it still feel top heavy ?
Thanks in advance.
I don't know your skill level. Picking a tall bike for your first can be problematic. You need to go into a shop and sit on one at the very least if not test ride one.
So Dave, are you going to upgrade the Tenere you own to the World Raid? It seems to me you have paid the price to upgrade your Tenere. Does the shiny new bike tempt you?
A little temptation but not quite enough.
I'm thinking on getting a World Rally, not the most experient of riders to be honest, actually a newbie of sorts, amd my question is if you think if it would be better to lower the bike or to just suck it up, tip toe along, and hope for the best 😂...
if you're riding in the dirt and you are new to riding and. you're not 6 ft I think you'll have occasional challenges.
Does it have up and down qs? Cruise control?
nope
Good fun!
It was!
Need this bike available in Canada
You're lucky.
Can u post that form up ur page for us world raid owners thanks guys
Stand by, I'll see what I can do.
What area in Oz is this mate
Central Coast
dave... i was just thinkin... you should do a video on you warehouse, and compare in a walk through, all of your bikes, your a bit like the jay lenno of bikes.... and the brands just throw more at you.....
then!!! i was watching "the apprentice adventurer" on his dog rooter, on a big trip... this guy is not your average bloke, hes actually one of those little shining lights within humanity, lighting the way for others. through his attitude and approach to life. hes a real champ...
so the dog rooter is now rooted, and him and his mate towed it 150kms, shes fucked..... and im saying.... you cant ride all your bikes anymore, theres too manny.
reach out to this lad and give him a bike.
you diont hand out your treasures to every poor bastard with a broken bike, i realise that... but this ones worth it.
Keep thinkin.
I'm about 6 foot and I'm in my tip toes on a world raid , way to tall for me, my desert x is about a inch lower for me , the suspension on the WR is still to soft for me,they been in the UK for ages , there a new one coming for 2024 😂
A few different models actually.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV the extreme version is just a WR with a high mudguard and a option for a quick shifter and the e explorer ,they avaliable in the uk next year and this month the bew colours september/ October, then the basic tenere with optional quick shifter and couple new colours so I've read...why they haven't bumped up the engine to 900cc is baffling , the new f900gs bmw will be putting a nail in the coffin to the new models as the bmw is only couple hundred more in price and alot better electronics package and brakes and 195 bhp and looks real nice similar to the aprillia tuareg
Nice!
Thanks!
Just waiting for the bike to come to American shores.
I want the 700 Extreme in the USA. WHY CANT I HAVE IT?
Tissues? :)
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Send a huge box please!
We are all so so sooo sorry because Americans won’t get a chance to ride this bike.
Can you share business cards of all Australian company owners in this video?
You've lost me.
What’s the name of the guy with pimped grey beard and pimped tenere? Can you show us his shop on google maps?
Greg Yager of rideadv.com.au. - look it up.
No cruise. No tubeless ? What a wasted opportunity for an almost perfect bike.
Jury is out for tubeless in Australia. It's about a 40/60 split. Agree on the cruise.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV But you can tube a tubeless tire if you need to. But you can’t plug a tube if you want to. Or am I missing something here ?
It's still a cable throttle, right? Isn't that why there's no cruise?
Dave ,Ducati desert X or tenere raid
All good bikes for different reasons. You forgot the Norden, Aprillia, Triumph Rally Pro 900.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTVI don't like any of the others ,,,hope to see Yamaha make a tenere 900 in the raid version ,now that would open eyes ye
So... how tall are you?
178 cm
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV nice! Thanks for the reference!
No world raid here in the usa
Did you see the title, 'Amercians Weep'. Are you getting the upgraded suspension model?
@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV don't know if I can get the upgrade suspension on the USA model, I'll probably just do it myself, yes we do weep.
or ram rally
"Pennies or rubles..." :)
A lot of what evers! :)
We can hear Clubby, hooray.
Tick
awwww