Simppa Kontio, The limit of the G force will be exactly the same, what will increase will be the drag and the weight, making the maneuvers more technical and of course, as in any other jet, slowing down the speed.
Actually I only ment full weapons load. Our current F-18 is +9G but loaded +3G or something. Wings can't sustain and manouverability with full load. F18 is a weapons load mule.
@@retrogamer33 BULLSHIT. www.reddit.com/r/F35Lightning/comments/8a66ta/out_of_the_shadows_rnlaf_experiences_with_the/ Out Of The Shadows: RNLAF experiences with the F-35A - Combat Aircraft Magazine May 2018 Dutch F-35 Block 3F, "F-35 sits somewhere in between the F-16 and F/A-18 when it comes to within visual range manoeuvring'". nettsteder.regjeringen.no/kampfly/2015/11/20/a-fly-f-35-erfaringer-fra-den-forste-uka/ More F-16 vs F-35 from Norwegian pilot. I quote _Overall, flying the F-35 reminds me a bit of flying the F/A-18 Hornet, but with an important difference: It has been fitted with a turbo_ Original source (non-English) suomenkuvalehti.fi/jutut/kotimaa/suomella-vahvat-ilmavoimat-mutta-kuinka-kauan/ Frisian Flag 2012 exercises in Holland, Finnish F-18Cs gets 100 kills and 6 loses against Eurofighter (Germany, UK), Polish new F-16 and older F-16 planes (Norway, Belgium) and Gripen (Swedish) Finland's F-18C has 16:1 kill ratio over Germany/UK's Eurofighter, Poland's F-16C Block 52+ and Norway/Belgium's F-16A MLU and Sweden's Gripen. Poland, Norway and Belgium has selected F-35A over losers in Finland Flag 2012.
Smokey Bandits in Malaysia will fire flares in their shows. But yeah, Canadian here, haven't actually seen flares fired at any Canadian show, or States airshows on TH-cam.
This plane will take on any Su-27-Su35 any day of the week. The E version will take on the Su57 with no problem in a defensive role. It may not match its competitors in the offensive role but for Finland i dont think that mattes. Either the E or F35 wins the HX fighter competition. Finland and Sweden will cooperate in defensive matters so if F35 wins it will bring new capabilities to the table, if Gripen wins it will have its advantages too. Either way im sure the Finnish people will make the decision thats right for them. Gl and have fun :)
@@Gharzul: Doesn't really matter. The F-22 is three times the price of the upcoming E/F. You can fly three times the sorties and have more uptime, Meteor and IRIS-T missiles. You'd be stupid not to call that an advantage. Flight hour cost for an F-22 is like 10-15 times a JAS-39 E/F. Maintenance for F-22 is 22h per flight hour. JAS 39 E/F is 1 per flight hour... A few high end weapons standing on the ground does not make an airforce.
Finland could have the JAS39 to, but Elisabeth Rhen Finnish defense minister 1990-95 (from the Finnish Sweden people party) was no friend to Swedish industry but she blame Peter Wallenberg and SAAB for hard industry political pressure from Sweden to buy JAS39, i bet the industry political pressure for F-18 Hornet was much harder and stronger from USA.
U talk B.S. The Finnish air force had the same air defense doctrine as Sweden air force to hide the plan out in the countryside to use the road networks perhaps in 15-20 different places but with F-18 thats was no can do. With the F-18 they have to extend their main air bases with more than double the length at a high cost's and was now down to perhaps 3-5 bases to use for F-18. Finnish air force bought the J-35 Draken (40-50) planes 1972-76 and they now the performance of JAS-37 Viggen, so there was no concern for what the performance JAS-39 will have when the plane system was ready to sell in 1996. One or two engines is an Finnish politikan smoke screen it was for defence not any deep penetration attacks in hostile country when you perhaps prefer two engines and the cold war was over so there was no hurry for Finland to by any new planes.
Yes and you must be abel to takeoff with the plane as well and F-18 need at least 600 meters and Finland dont have any straight road part with that length so give up the this talk with F-18 as an logical solution for Finland it was an super stupid deal but it make som Finnish politicians to shine beside some US dignitaries.
Sorry i was wrong about the starting distance its about 400 meters not 600 for the F-18, the data for 600 meters is from debate article from political debate about pros and cons to by F-18 from the 90s. I should have known better when F-18 is an navy plane. I guess you're from USA. so it does not matter what I'm saying you still will be politically American with B.S. before wisdom and sense.I insist that this deal was more political than necessary for the Finnish Air Force. Maybe from Gemany the word Ze?.
Then you should know how bad our Nordic politicians are to resist major nations' political pressures for bad deals. Sorry for i thought you were from USA. I am Swedish (hello ther neighbor) and Most of us in Sweden think Finland is our best neighbor and we know that most Finns hate us.
I remember the JAS 39 the accident at the Stockholm Water Festival 1993 it was a big political mistake from the sitting government to let the plane show fly that year they should have wait at least two years for it. But it was a big debate in the media for those rising costs so i think it was pure panic from the government. But to make an omelet you need to crack some eggs, for a new aircraft system like JAS39 i think they have new low record for accidents in the development process onely 3 times.
The best fighter for the money and one of the best period! One of the sharpest looking too!
Made by VERY clever peoples. Congrats....
Hello Canadian ministers... this one would be nice for us for closer in intercepts. And Swedes play real hockey too.
And it’s still the current Swedish Air Force Gripen-C.....
@Paul Zuegn In a 1on1 dogfight, the superhornet would be in a world of hurt.
@Paul Zuegn only in your wet dreams
I am a big fan of gripen ...it is fast , small and powerful bird !!!...
Sure without weapons load useless. Stick it 2000lbs external fuel, 4 AMRAAM-120 and 2 AIM-9X... Lets see then what G-limit will be.
Sana gripen E/F ang kunin ng PAF wag F16.
Simppa Kontio, The limit of the G force will be exactly the same, what will increase will be the drag and the weight, making the maneuvers more technical and of course, as in any other jet, slowing down the speed.
ASHISH MADHUKAR TANTARPALE me too
Actually I only ment full weapons load. Our current F-18 is +9G but loaded +3G or something. Wings can't sustain and manouverability with full load. F18 is a weapons load mule.
Its a beatiful bird from a small country of Sweden! Cheers!
Swedistan?
@@Thewiruz1 How is the weather in Retardistan?
@@perthyren4567 hahahahaha, actually made me spit out my water, i wasnt ready for that one.
CLASS!! FANTASTIC!! GOOD JOB!! THANK YOU!!
Jas-39 all the way! Forget the Eurofighter and the F-35, the Gripen is the real winner.
Beautiful flying there. Bad ass super pilot ;) The slow flying was also great! Nice camera work btw.
Some really tight turns there. Impressive!
Jas39 or F-35.... We love Sweden ! We take JAS39!!
F-35 is a pile of shite and way overpriced for the piece of junk it is.
shows what you people know when you call the f-35 shit, do some research that doesn't involve reading news articles, kiddo.
@@retrogamer33 BULLSHIT.
www.reddit.com/r/F35Lightning/comments/8a66ta/out_of_the_shadows_rnlaf_experiences_with_the/
Out Of The Shadows: RNLAF experiences with the F-35A - Combat Aircraft Magazine May 2018
Dutch F-35 Block 3F, "F-35 sits somewhere in between the F-16 and F/A-18 when it comes to within visual range manoeuvring'".
nettsteder.regjeringen.no/kampfly/2015/11/20/a-fly-f-35-erfaringer-fra-den-forste-uka/
More F-16 vs F-35 from Norwegian pilot.
I quote
_Overall, flying the F-35 reminds me a bit of flying the F/A-18 Hornet, but with an important difference: It has been fitted with a turbo_
Original source (non-English)
suomenkuvalehti.fi/jutut/kotimaa/suomella-vahvat-ilmavoimat-mutta-kuinka-kauan/
Frisian Flag 2012 exercises in Holland, Finnish F-18Cs gets 100 kills and 6 loses against Eurofighter (Germany, UK), Polish new F-16 and older F-16 planes (Norway, Belgium) and Gripen (Swedish)
Finland's F-18C has 16:1 kill ratio over Germany/UK's Eurofighter, Poland's F-16C Block 52+ and Norway/Belgium's F-16A MLU and Sweden's Gripen.
Poland, Norway and Belgium has selected F-35A over losers in Finland Flag 2012.
10 f35 vs 1 Gripen this is an even fight!
Agility is life or death in modern dogfights.
One of a few things that makes me proud being a Swede amongst many that I won't.
Fantastico
I'm a big fan of jets with canards
Fantastic jet. Just look at the fast turns. It is not losing a iota of energy (speed) despite having a delta wing.
Welcome Brasil Air force!
Brasil airforce?
@Lu B. 39 !
Very nice
Best value for money, purchase and operational costs are mindblowing.
Tämä täytyy olla sunnuntaina lennetty, koska lauantaina puhkesi hawkin rengas ja päivän loput esitykset peruttiin.
Gripens are cool jets and I love me some tonkatsu (Japanese fried pork cutlets) LOL
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When the Russian planes face this plane, I know very well that Russian planes will evaporate and explode in the air
😆😂🤣
JS35&37機翼誇張，曲線怪異，39感覺回到清爽的流線，且比例較符合高速！
I would like to see a Gripen flying with a camera on its tail showing its canards!
Is there any fighter that can keep its energy like this plane in tight turns? I dont think so mate!
Don't ever recall a plane dumping flares at a US airshow. Wonder if it's against regulations or I just haven't seen it here?
Smokey Bandits in Malaysia will fire flares in their shows. But yeah, Canadian here, haven't actually seen flares fired at any Canadian show, or States airshows on TH-cam.
Craig Brenton, I’ve been to one air show so far - Flygdagarna 2018 - and literally all Denmark did was releasing flares..
Niin ravistaa taivaan kantta kuin Draken aikoinaan 😍😍💪🇫🇮
This is the real fighter jet! Agile, nimble fighter hoping Philippines will acquire this one! Gripen and Rafale and Su30mmki are above all!
This plane will take on any Su-27-Su35 any day of the week. The E version will take on the Su57 with no problem in a defensive role. It may not match its competitors in the offensive role but for Finland i dont think that mattes. Either the E or F35 wins the HX fighter competition. Finland and Sweden will cooperate in defensive matters so if F35 wins it will bring new capabilities to the table, if Gripen wins it will have its advantages too. Either way im sure the Finnish people will make the decision thats right for them. Gl and have fun :)
No paremmin 😂🕺🕺💪💪
Swedish quality 👌🏻
On se 💪💪💪💪💪🇫🇮🎅😍
Pentti Saarikoski Swedish plane and pilot DIN VIGGE
Wish UK would buy some .
They do, Empire Test Pilots school use JAS 39 :-)
@@anti8360 thanks for the information . That's good news . I believe BAE markets them anyway ? we need a couple of squadrons to back up F-35 .
5-0, 5-0, 5-0, 5-0 and 5-0 against usa in red flag. Pretty good.
Never went up against the F-22.
@@Gharzul: Doesn't really matter. The F-22 is three times the price of the upcoming E/F. You can fly three times the sorties and have more uptime, Meteor and IRIS-T missiles. You'd be stupid not to call that an advantage. Flight hour cost for an F-22 is like 10-15 times a JAS-39 E/F. Maintenance for F-22 is 22h per flight hour. JAS 39 E/F is 1 per flight hour...
A few high end weapons standing on the ground does not make an airforce.
@@Gharzul Yes it sneaked behind F22 which didn´t see it until it was within gun range....
yeah, It's pretty agile! Delta wings and canards.. but the Flanker still have the most beatiful flying XD
Finland could have the JAS39 to, but Elisabeth Rhen Finnish defense minister 1990-95 (from the Finnish Sweden people party) was no friend to Swedish industry but she blame Peter Wallenberg and SAAB for hard industry political pressure from Sweden to buy JAS39, i bet the industry political pressure for F-18 Hornet was much harder and stronger from USA.
U talk B.S. The Finnish air force had the same air defense doctrine as Sweden air force to hide the plan out in the countryside to use the road networks perhaps in 15-20 different places but with F-18 thats was no can do. With the F-18 they have to extend their main air bases with more than double the length at a high cost's and was now down to perhaps 3-5 bases to use for F-18. Finnish air force bought the J-35 Draken (40-50) planes 1972-76 and they now the performance of JAS-37 Viggen, so there was no concern for what the performance JAS-39 will have when the plane system was ready to sell in 1996. One or two engines is an Finnish politikan smoke screen it was for defence not any deep penetration attacks in hostile country when you perhaps prefer two engines and the cold war was over so there was no hurry for Finland to by any new planes.
Yes and you must be abel to takeoff with the plane as well and F-18 need at least 600 meters and Finland dont have any straight road part with that length so give up the this talk with F-18 as an logical solution for Finland it was an super stupid deal but it make som Finnish politicians to shine beside some US dignitaries.
Sorry i was wrong about the starting distance its about 400 meters not 600 for the F-18, the data for 600 meters is from debate article from political debate about pros and cons to by F-18 from the 90s. I should have known better when F-18 is an navy plane. I guess you're from USA. so it does not matter what I'm saying you still will be politically American with B.S. before wisdom and sense.I insist that this deal was more political than necessary for the Finnish Air Force. Maybe from Gemany the word Ze?.
Then you should know how bad our Nordic politicians are to resist major nations' political pressures for bad deals. Sorry for i thought you were from USA. I am Swedish (hello ther neighbor) and Most of us in Sweden think Finland is our best neighbor and we know that most Finns hate us.
I remember the JAS 39 the accident at the Stockholm Water Festival 1993 it was a big political mistake from the sitting government to let the plane show fly that year they should have wait at least two years for it. But it was a big debate in the media for those rising costs so i think it was pure panic from the government. But to make an omelet you need to crack some eggs, for a new aircraft system like JAS39 i think they have new low record for accidents in the development process onely 3 times.
It rolls, just like the Rafale much quicker and easier than the Typhoon.
Sweden's finest girl
Sana gripen E/F ang kunin ng PAF wag F16.
They say it was the best at RED FLAG in the USA, marginally behind the Raptor.
Vau
Swedish spitfire
It flies nicely ..when it flies.
stjarna 3 can you be more precise? Btw it's spelled flyes not flies. Flies are the annoying insects that likes your poo poo.
stjarna 3 has the correct spelling.
@@anmordal-swe2203: It's spelled flies. There is no such word as "flyes".
@@metsot yeah you are always drunk
3 Saab jas39 grippen aircraft need to first mizo time day deadly coronavirus come we people see aircraft need
Ty for not buying Gripen Finland....you bought some old american 70's shit instead!
SSSSSSSAAAAA
Yeah but do swedish support us next time now they have a bigger problen in their country.
So,cant take these.
The fuck are you even on about?
Sweden is currently being invaded by troyan horses. Sweden is gone in 50 years
Robert is it those damn Estonians again?
@@Rattlepiece wake up dude and open your eyes before its too late
mig 29 the best