Wow ... It's late July of 2022, and this topic has blown up due to 'lost' messages, and conflicted goals on Jan 6. If Carol Leonnig has a Pulitzer, let's nominate her for a Nobel! Amazing journalist!
Me too! Carol leonigs reporting is legendary and is always enlightening but right now!!!! All the deleted text this history of Secret Service was 100% fascinating!!!
@@tammyburke9453 I think Trump was calling the secret service to get rid of Pence. So...the blank call record. The secret service was texting each other to make it happen. So...the missing texts. Sounds good to me!
I love Carol Leonnig's brilliant reporting! She is one of our nation's best to bring truth forward to the American people. Thank you for showcasing this incredible journalist.
Not almost. Officer Fanone said he actually did have a heart attack. Something he didn't know about until afterwards when he was being treated for his injuries.
Yeah, at this moment in time, we have to realize that Secret Service officers are not the only ones who have been asked to give their lives. Think of Officers Fanone, Gonell, Dunn, and Hodges and all the other Capital Police officers. The level of crazy violence in this country makes every public law enforcement official a person in danger. Of course, there are bad cops who are part if the problem. But surely most are good people.
not so amazing - and not so cuddly - with me - i dont forget - and i would like people to remember that he can never leave the country because he will be arrested as a war criminal anywhere else in the world
We shot our wad, so to speak. The term "facism" was already a tired old canard by the time of Trump. It's a crying shame that words have lost their meaning.
This was my first time watching Carol Leoning and Marisa Lagos. Carol is amazing to watch and I could listen to her all day. I’m an instant fan. The facts and the research Carol has done on the Secret Service is next level and when they stuffed up in certain situations she was quite compassionate, giving context as to their working conditions. I now want to go and explore all things Carol Leoning. Not sure about Marisa….she laughed and giggled a lot and tried to interject comedy throughout this series topic.
Imagine the epic failure of the secret service on January 6, 2021 with the reality of a Vice President in real physical and constitutional danger. No wonder the secret service texts went missing. Unspeakable embarrassment.
Thank you for this research into our secret service/political system. I would love to hear Carol’s take on the erased text messages during January 6th insurrection?
Yes. I've noticed the generations following the Boomers that host the Commonwealth Club- which I used to attend in person when it was an august institution-- are less than desirable. I do not know who or why these people are chosen but they really need to up the bar. I could have done a better interview and I'm not knowledgeable about the Secret Service but I know how to think critically & I know how to focus in on areas that need exploration. Her attire or lack thereof says it all. She, of the bedroom hair, looks like one of the "ladies" the secret service consort with off hours. If her ability to interview was adequate, we might ignore her mode of dress, but her style of interviewing was equally derelict.
I was wondering if anyone else felt that this interviewer was not up to par. She reminds me of some of the you tuber celebrity hosts. It makes it hard to take seriously although I really want to hear Carole Leoning
I love the Commonwealth Club of California. It really is a "wealth" and it's not as "common" as it should be. Thank you for this. So refreshing after listening to so many "Talking Heads."
I'm surprised that this book actually sounds more interesting than her other recent one. (Maybe because there's nothing that can shock anyone anymore about the depths of depravity former guy would sink to.)
well lets get something straight - he was hindered by Milley who was hyper aware of an attempt like that so he had to outsource to his mutant followers - and they responded in characteristic fashion . If he had his way he would have found a way to get around Milley - and utilize the military - as commander in chief - further emphasizing why he NEVER should have been in that position
I still remember standing outside of UC Berkeley,my alma mater, and a foreign student saying to me --Just be sure you don't let the military come in. And I thought he was being completely ridiculous because THIS WAS AMERICA. I was young then and youth is stupid because he was EXACTLY spot on, which I realize now-- decades and decades later-- which is probably also why that passing comment stayed in my mind al3l these decades, even though in my naive youth I had dissed it.
Carol is an excellent journalist and has proven herself many times. Very disappointed to hear her mention Lee Harvey Oswald since it likely means she's another one of the many mainstream journalists who know so little about the murder of JFK. It was exceedingly unlikely Oswald was on the 6th floor and the fatal shot originated from the front. The Secret Service provided "uniquely insecure" protection for the Dallas motorcade and see Vince Palamara's writing on the subject...
The facts and narrative on this are NOT SETTLED, so stop making claims that many would consider silly. Evidence, Buckwheat, evidence. ONE former SS agent does not make it proof.
Remember these guys and gals are human and yet we need to clean house and tighten up and enlist new regiments. We need to instill a SENSE OF AWE like we have had with the Seals.. Rangers...Green Berets...ect!!!
Perhaps l have it wrong, but as far the formation or first use of the"Scret Service", not of course as it in use today, was by Mr Alan Pinkerton Detective Agency who was "Contracted" to safe guard the personage of of none other than Abraham Lincoln himself! More's the pity that none were assigned to "guard" over him whilst he was at Ford's Theatre that fateful night!...
The Fort Knox gold reserve is guarded by the United States Mint Police. It has its own emergency electric and water supply and the land surrounding it is a mine field
Commonwealth Club seems like a respectable organization. I hope they can vet folks who are conducting the interview. Ms. Lagos could do better by asking open-ended questions. And she loves to hear herself talking, and struggles to come up with an actual question.
Read “Zero Fail” but I’m not sure why Leonnig ignored the excellent work “Survivors’s Guilt” by Palamara. The investigative journalist has missed a wealth of information on SS failure to protect JFK.
Was excited to see that Carol was featured at Commonwealth Club! But the interviewer was so unprofessional, couldn't finish the entire interview...What a waste of a fabulous speaker.
I remember it well. Jack Ruby was allowed to walk right up to Oswald and fill him full of lead. (While in police custody) they caught old Ruby, but he was already dying of cancer. What was it Oswsld said just before it happened? "I'm only the patsy!"
@@kensanity178 Yes, almost 60 years later and Lee Harvey Oswald is held up as THE SHOOTER. And, yes, he said "I'm the Patsy". The truth was successfully buried.
Her book is about the Secret Service preparation (or lack thereof) and response to the assassination. Conspiracy theories about Lee Harvey Oswald are not the topic.
Many of us were rooting for President Obama. Why are you calling every former president by their last name except the 45th one, who was a person who occupied the White House and never behaved as the POTUS?
Instead of using the time to describe the water which we all know we are looking for you to use your time and make inferences or bottom line determinations of what you and we really want to know and think
Interviewer's consistent laughter is extremely awkward and lessens the severity of the serious information being shared. Also her constant hair flips. Very annoying and juvenile. Otherwise... great info!!
Did this commentator pronounce “tome” as “ tomb”? Lololol to a WRITER !!! ( that would make me leave) At the Commonwealth Club?! Stay on script missy you don’t have the chops
Except in trying to destroy the texts in the current situation. This is clearly an attempt to get rid of incriminating evidence. Even a six year old would recognize this attempt.
The interviewer behaved like a star struck teenager, giggling & silly. Ms. Leonnig is like Maggie Habberman, who, for whatever reason has been afforded this mythical status. She is subtly pompous & projects this image of knowing a lot more than she really does. This is the only country that makes such a show of protecting VIP's, yet their success rate is questionable. Other world leaders like the Italian President goes to work in a taxi cab, Boris Johnson is seen cycling through London to work.Give me one reason why the entire Trump Family was given secret service protection. This is tax payer money & should be provided when he is on official duty. All other times they should pay for their own protection. The day they leave office the public has no obligation to protect them. Trump had all his kids covered for 1yr after his Presidency ended. The Secret Service are a bunch of trumped up Yahoo!'s who are not accountable to anyone. Their tour of duty should be short with frequent rotation so they don't get too comfortable.
"Give me one reason why the entire Trump Family was given secret service protectionGive me one reason why the entire Trump Family was given secret service protection" - Like it or not - it's the law. I don't like it, either.
@@Gandalf47 Trump and his wife like all former Presidents receives lifetime secret Service.His grown children are not entitled to secret Service protection after he has left office.That was and hopefully still enforcedThe Vice President only received 6 months of Secret Service protection by law.However Pence probably deserves atleast 4 years of protection after trump tried to get him killed for doing his duty.
I could sit here and listen to her stories all day long!! THANK YOU, Carol for taking your time for this interview! ❤️
From overseas - we worry about you - what is the next thing that happens ?
Wow ... It's late July of 2022, and this topic has blown up due to 'lost' messages, and conflicted goals on Jan 6. If Carol Leonnig has a Pulitzer, let's nominate her for a Nobel! Amazing journalist!
Watching this since the secret service deleted their texts!!! Carol is a treasure!!! July 22,22
Me too! Carol leonigs reporting is legendary and is always enlightening but right now!!!! All the deleted text this history of Secret Service was 100% fascinating!!!
@@tammyburke9453 I think Trump was calling the secret service to get rid of Pence. So...the blank call record.
The secret service was texting each other to make it happen. So...the missing texts. Sounds good to me!
So thankful for our investigative journalism in America!
Agreed. Quite interesting watching this on July 29, 2022
It's a shame that these current individuals have brought such dishonor to such an institution.
I love Carol Leonnig's brilliant reporting! She is one of our nation's best to bring truth forward to the American people. Thank you for showcasing this incredible journalist.
There's a lot of interesting detail in this interview. Thanks Marisa Lagos and many many thanks to Carol Leonnig, one of my favorite journalists.
I remain concerned that, if the Secret Service maintains any loyalty toward Trump, how safe is President Biden?
Not almost. Officer Fanone said he actually did have a heart attack. Something he didn't know about until afterwards when he was being treated for his injuries.
Yeah, at this moment in time, we have to realize that Secret Service officers are not the only ones who have been asked to give their lives. Think of Officers Fanone, Gonell, Dunn, and Hodges and all the other Capital Police officers. The level of crazy violence in this country makes every public law enforcement official a person in danger. Of course, there are bad cops who are part if the problem. But surely most are good people.
Isn't it amazing how W. has turned into the cuddly GOP former president? Remember how we felt about him in 2008?
not so amazing - and not so cuddly - with me - i dont forget - and i would like people to remember that he can never leave the country because he will be arrested as a war criminal anywhere else in the world
I can't forget.
RIP my beloved son,
Danny boy, Bubba, Wolfman ♥️
The Bush crime family is nest of rats.
He should be in The Hague with Putin.
We shot our wad, so to speak. The term "facism" was already a tired old canard by the time of Trump. It's a crying shame that words have lost their meaning.
This was my first time watching Carol Leoning and Marisa Lagos. Carol is amazing to watch and I could listen to her all day. I’m an instant fan. The facts and the research Carol has done on the Secret Service is next level and when they stuffed up in certain situations she was quite compassionate, giving context as to their working conditions. I now want to go and explore all things Carol Leoning.
Not sure about Marisa….she laughed and giggled a lot and tried to interject comedy throughout this series topic.
Imagine the epic failure of the secret service on January 6, 2021 with the reality of a Vice President in real physical and constitutional danger. No wonder the secret service texts went missing. Unspeakable embarrassment.
I came upon this site last week and love your work,thanks for great history,Bill in Ireland.
"Craven" is an apt description of trump and his governing style.
Thank you for this research into our secret service/political system. I would love to hear Carol’s take on the erased text messages during January 6th insurrection?
Great Washington Post article by her on 30 July. Calls it ludicrous.
Carol Leonnig is a tour d’force. Her interviewer is well-less than the occasion called for.
Oh‼️ I totally agree‼️ Silly, giggly foolish woman.
my reaction also.
Carol very polite despite.
Yes. I've noticed the generations following the Boomers that host the Commonwealth Club- which I used to attend in person when it was an august institution-- are less than desirable. I do not know who or why these people are chosen but they really need to up the bar. I could have done a better interview and I'm not knowledgeable about the Secret Service but I know how to think critically & I know how to focus in on areas that need exploration. Her attire or lack thereof says it all. She, of the bedroom hair, looks like one of the "ladies" the secret service consort with off hours. If her ability to interview was adequate, we might ignore her mode of dress, but her style of interviewing was equally derelict.
I was wondering if anyone else felt that this interviewer was not up to par. She reminds me of some of the you tuber celebrity hosts. It makes it hard to take seriously although I really want to hear Carole Leoning
I am so unimpressed with the interviewer.
I love the Commonwealth Club of California. It really is a "wealth" and it's not as "common" as it should be. Thank you for this. So refreshing after listening to so many "Talking Heads."
I'm surprised that this book actually sounds more interesting than her other recent one. (Maybe because there's nothing that can shock anyone anymore about the depths of depravity former guy would sink to.)
Fascinating detail .. Lagos, excellent interviewer.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Always appreciated !
Very interesting interview and reporting on the Secret Service. Thank you both!
I'm rewatching this during the hearing on J6 (after the seventh)... Some things ring a bit different in light of some testimonials...
I'm late to the party, (a yr late) but has anything been done about the secret service agents that are racists... Has any house cleaning been done...?
Fabulous interview!!!!!!!
I absolutely 💯 % loved it ❤ 😍
August, 2034 … Will purchase her Book today 🫡 from 🇨🇦
Great interview, obviously the SS needs to be looked at very strongly and improved greatly.
Ms Lagos....like....talks like a teenager and is like.....WHATever...... Ms Leonnig talks like a professional.
Spot on!
I enjoyed this interview. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Loving this interview!
What a gracious lady Carol is. Giving cudos as easily as she breathes...
21:30 if a navy plane misses the arresting wire they just go around for another pass. It's called "bolter". FYI
So many erroneous statements!
@@phyllisneal8687 Which statements are erroneous? Care to elaborate with facts?
Trump, with all the resources and power of the presidency at his disposal couldn't even carry out a successful coup...
Trump is inherently lazy and not the sharpest tool in the shed.
We just went thru a coup. Alot like Venezuela's.
well lets get something straight - he was hindered by Milley who was hyper aware of an attempt like that so he had to outsource to his mutant followers - and they responded in characteristic fashion . If he had his way he would have found a way to get around Milley - and utilize the military - as commander in chief - further emphasizing why he NEVER should have been in that position
I still remember standing outside of UC Berkeley,my alma mater, and a foreign student saying to me --Just be sure you don't let the military come in. And I thought he was being completely ridiculous because THIS WAS AMERICA.
I was young then and youth is stupid because he was EXACTLY spot on, which I realize now-- decades and decades later-- which is probably also why that passing comment stayed in my mind al3l these decades, even though in my naive youth I had dissed it.
If he isn't arrested and imprisoned then he may well have since SCOTUS 5 are in place to foment unrest in the populace.
Carol is an excellent journalist and has proven herself many times. Very disappointed to hear her mention Lee Harvey Oswald since it likely means she's another one of the many mainstream journalists who know so little about the murder of JFK. It was exceedingly unlikely Oswald was on the 6th floor and the fatal shot originated from the front. The Secret Service provided "uniquely insecure" protection for the Dallas motorcade and see Vince Palamara's writing on the subject...
The facts and narrative on this are NOT SETTLED, so stop making claims that many would consider silly. Evidence, Buckwheat, evidence. ONE former SS agent does not make it proof.
I like watching you guys. I am in Staffordshire UK 🥰🥰
Thanks for tuning in!
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The book is a tome, not a tomb. All good. Rock on. Important podcast.
And don't forget the vim and vinegar... yes, all good, rock on!
Interesting in light of recent revelations.
HOW ARE THEY PICKED?..I hope it's not like COPS!
"...the public servants are begging you (the current president) for help"
Comparing Cuomo to Kennedy is beyond redicualess.
Remember these guys and gals are human and yet we need to clean house and tighten up and enlist new regiments. We need to instill a SENSE OF AWE like we have had with the Seals.. Rangers...Green Berets...ect!!!
No secret: Money Trumps Oaths for some people better described as Mammon Worshipers - the only measure of worth and Success is wealth.
No doubt a very challenging profession…
Should be interesting to watch….considering the new “I can find the texts” from the Secret Service, in regards to the J 6th committee
Perhaps l have it wrong, but as far the formation or first use of the"Scret Service", not of course as it in use today, was by Mr Alan Pinkerton Detective Agency who was "Contracted" to safe guard the personage of of none other than Abraham Lincoln himself! More's the pity that none were assigned to "guard" over him whilst he was at Ford's Theatre that fateful night!...
I sense that her book may be due for a sequel.
The interviewer should study Brian Lamb’s way of doing an interview.
I think that Carol forgot a Secret Service job. I believe that they still protect the gold, if there is still any there, at Fort Knox.
The Fort Knox gold reserve is guarded by the United States Mint Police. It has its own emergency electric and water supply and the land surrounding it is a mine field
And then we had the missing Jan 6 texts…
Well, this is aging well... SMH USSS needs SERIOUS reform.
Commonwealth Club seems like a respectable organization. I hope they can vet folks who are conducting the interview. Ms. Lagos could do better by asking open-ended questions. And she loves to hear herself talking, and struggles to come up with an actual question.
She gets the facts…
Please never change the intro music
Fascinating
Just like Congress, personal enrichment rules.
Marisa Lagos seems to be a very silly and giddy person to be interviewing an author on a subject this serious.
Oh‼️ Yessss! My thoughts exactly
One person’s opinion. Biased?
This interviewer is very unprofessional in my opinion. The guest is extremely interesting and full of intriguing information.
Read “Zero Fail” but I’m not sure why Leonnig ignored the excellent work “Survivors’s
Guilt” by Palamara. The investigative journalist has missed a wealth of information on SS failure to protect JFK.
Was excited to see that Carol was featured at Commonwealth Club! But the interviewer was so unprofessional, couldn't finish the entire interview...What a waste of a fabulous speaker.
Why did the moderator say her guests name wrong? It is not Lenning
Rise and fall of the SS : how prescient.
2:46 "Tome" not "tomb."
Interesting.
Every democratic Prez or vp is said with no title, trump is referred to as president even referring to him during his campaign in 2016?!!!!!!
Thx
The Lee Harvey Oswald fantasy continues. Otherwise, much respect for Carol Leonig.
I remember it well. Jack Ruby was allowed to walk right up to Oswald and fill him full of lead. (While in police custody) they caught old Ruby, but he was already dying of cancer. What was it Oswsld said just before it happened? "I'm only the patsy!"
@@kensanity178 Yes, almost 60 years later and Lee Harvey Oswald is held up as THE SHOOTER. And, yes, he said "I'm the Patsy". The truth was successfully buried.
Her book is about the Secret Service preparation (or lack thereof) and response to the assassination. Conspiracy theories about Lee Harvey Oswald are not the topic.
Vice president Nelson Rockefeller. His wife was happy
good one
Marissa's grammar: tome, not tomb, advocate, not advocate for. Long means the same as lengthy.
Oswald didn't shoot anyone.
It is almost like her research into the secret service JFK stand down was lifted from The Warren Commission for Dummies, Cliffnotes version.
Vp pence is a hero for not leaving the Capitol and staying to certify the election !
Marisa Lagos…okay. Authentic. Hahaha. Not fake at all.
Many of us were rooting for President Obama. Why are you calling every former president by their last name except the 45th one, who was a person who occupied the White House and never behaved as the POTUS?
Trump Haas caused so much damage!
So that's why they deleted the text messages lol
"Vim & VINEGAR" ⁉️😮 How about "Vim & VIGOR" ⁉️
I always preferred “Vigor and VIm” … heh heh!
No mention of Abraham Bolden?
This interviewer is horrible!
No way is a tough ask.
Instead of using the time to describe the water which we all know we are looking for you to use your time and make inferences or bottom line determinations of what you and we really want to know and think
Vim and Vigor
Did she just say "Oswalds Third shot!?
Hire move competent people then diversify
Sounds as if the Fates had conspired against JFK.
Interviewer's consistent laughter is extremely awkward and lessens the severity of the serious information being shared. Also her constant hair flips. Very annoying and juvenile. Otherwise... great info!!
I loved WH Bush’s SS name…. Timberwolf
Hmm - I suspect more than a few moments of 'Gaslighting'. Entertaining? Yes.
It takes a minimum of three and a half minutes to get to a relevant point on these Commonwealth Club interviews.
Lagos keeps laughing???
Guess it didn't help RFK gtfo
Get the real dope from Vince Palamara.
Did this commentator pronounce
“tome” as “ tomb”?
Lololol to a WRITER !!! ( that would make me leave)
At the Commonwealth Club?!
Stay on script missy you don’t have the chops
What is Biden’s Secret Service name? And FLOTUS too?
Still president, not told.
Uh lie JFK was sick
Secret service agents do an excellent job all the time PERIOD!
When they're not porking or hungover
How do you know?
Except in trying to destroy the texts in the current situation. This is clearly an attempt to get rid of incriminating evidence. Even a six year old would recognize this attempt.
Dumb comment
The interviewer behaved like a star struck teenager, giggling & silly. Ms. Leonnig is like Maggie Habberman, who, for whatever reason has been afforded this mythical status. She is subtly pompous & projects this image of knowing a lot more than she really does. This is the only country that makes such a show of protecting VIP's, yet their success rate is questionable. Other world leaders like the Italian President goes to work in a taxi cab, Boris Johnson is seen cycling through London to work.Give me one reason why the entire Trump Family was given secret service protection. This is tax payer money & should be provided when he is on official duty. All other times they should pay for their own protection. The day they leave office the public has no obligation to protect them. Trump had all his kids covered for 1yr after his Presidency ended. The Secret Service are a bunch of trumped up Yahoo!'s who are not accountable to anyone. Their tour of duty should be short with frequent rotation so they don't get too comfortable.
"Give me one reason why the entire Trump Family was given secret service protectionGive me one reason why the entire Trump Family was given secret service protection" - Like it or not - it's the law. I don't like it, either.
@@Gandalf47 Trump and his wife like all former Presidents receives lifetime secret Service.His grown children are not entitled to secret Service protection after he has left office.That was and hopefully still enforcedThe Vice President only received 6 months of Secret Service protection by law.However Pence probably deserves atleast 4 years of protection after trump tried to get him killed for doing his duty.
I believe you're both well meaning actors however you seem to both be true culturized and seeped into the heaviest of political correctness
27min into this and the BS level has reached Leonnig's eyeballs.
Vim and vinegar?