CYLINDER (Reel) V ROTARY Lawnmowers - Which mower is right for you? (4K)
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- You need to choose the right mower to suit you and your lawn- do you just want to cut the grass once a week- Get a rotary... do you want a a beautifully green, striped and healthy low cut lawn like you see on our social media channels? Have you got the time and passion to be mowing 2-3x a week? Get a cylinder- you will never go back once you've tried cylinder mowing!! You also have the amazing benefits of inserting a range of interchangeable cartridges that do the tasks of MANY machines in your Allett Mower saving you space in the shed and a LOT of money #allettmowers #cylindervrotary #cylindermowers #rotary #allett #lawncare #lawnstripes #lawnmower #reelmower #reelvrotary
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INDEX
ROTARY MOWERS: THE CUTTING ACTION 4:51
CYLINDER MOWERS- THE CUTTING ACTION 9:57
COMPARISONS/THE QUALITY OF CUT 13:22
ONE THIRD HEIGHT RULE 15:21
STRIPING- THE DIFFERENCES 17:51
GRASS COLLECTION/GRASS BOX POSITION 21:24
SPEED TEST 22:23
MOWING OVER THE EDGES 24:12
PRICE 24:45
CUTTING LONG GRASS 26:40
EASE OF USE 29:13
DEBRIS COLLECTION 31:06
CONCLUSION 32:46
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I was a just cut the grass man, then I was introduced to your videos, now I'm a my grass deserves more man. Your videos are fantastic. Thank you so much.
Glad to hear you’re a changed man 😂 happens to us all! No going back now
Awesome video. I wanted a allett mower, but can’t afford one!!!
This is why more people own a Rotary mower than a Cylinder mower and probably will for all of time unless someone figures out how to make a reasonably priced battery/gas powered Cylinder mower. The reel mowers achieve a decent cut but the striping is abysmal. I’m borderline tempted to fit a big league lawns stripe kit to a push reel mower and make my own average man’s Cylinder mower since none of these manufacturers have the common man in mind when manufacturing their solutions. Whoever does is going to start a lawn mowing revolution that will change lawns across the world.
Very honest and comprehensive review👏🏻👏🏻👍
Well-explained, with good detail and a very unbiased approach
Works great! th-cam.com/users/postUgkxprGGPRQoChQaA8u58dt7miEpxQBKiWeJ More difficult with longer grass, though, but I was expecting that. I have a small back yard, it seemed like overkill to buy a lawnmower with an engine. This is easy to carry in and out of the basement through the bulkhead. Very sharp (be careful). At the back of the mower are little wheels, which I use when pulling the mower backwards, so it's easy to readjust direction. I'm including a photo which shows the before and after for my lawn when it was at its longest. For long grass like that you really have to put some muscle into it, and I needed to go into a new section of grass with some momentum, but when the grass is only an inch or two higher than regular cut height it's quite easy. The lawn is still patchy and full of weeds, but at least it's a good height! A step in the right direction.
Very extensive, comprehensive and transparent comparison
Just a bunch of dads here doing what dads do. Up top! 🤚
@@ALLETTMOWERSUK and mums! Up top!🤚
Exceptional! I have always used a rotary mower, but am moving into a home with a bentgrass lawn. Thus, I'm moving to the cylinder mower and this video was immensely helpful. Now I just need to make the big purchase of my first cylinder mower. Thank you!
great beginning to keep us listening to your input on lawn cutting
By far the best in class when it comes to enlightening us consumers with relevant information and not just another sales pitch - and in addition a super pleasant and knowledgeable presenter. Thanks.
Thanks for your kind words! I will pass on your comments to Austin 👍🇬🇧🌱
I've certainly upped my game in lawn care this year. But I still can't justify the cost of a cylinder. Frequent sharpening of my Toro blade and more frequent cutting gives me above average results.
Great video, thanks!
Great video and as always impartial and factual, keep up the great content. I'm loving my liberty 43 cordless :)
Thanks for this excellent video. I learnt so many things. I keep thinking allett are good machines for people who love their lawn.
Very informative and thorough. This has caused me to see more benefits to the cylinder mower. Thank you.
Great to hear
🌞Excellent video!! Love the cartridge system. When it comes to cleaning up debris, nothing beats the Scarifier/Turf Rake cartridge in my Kensington 20H.🌞
So impressed by Austin leading from the front. The MD doing the marketing vids!!!
Thanks Tim, we do our best. Laura with the video camera is actually the behind-the-scenes hero. I hope you find them useful. We have fun making them.
I have always used a cylinder mower
I don't even own a lawn and now I want a Reel mower. Why did I watch this entire video.
Really good video very informative and great knowledge passed on. I always use a Cylinder mower , my grass grows so quick i have to cut every other day!!
Allett Mowers I got to admit I do lol just waiting for my Liberty 43 then I can do some reviews on here .
Excellent video! I love cutting the grass and having a gorgeous lawn and enjoyed every moment of this video! Nice job!
Glad you enjoyed it! We have more videos coming up including a lawn renovation video
Amazing video. Very detailed. You are the guru if Lawn.
Thankyou for your kind words
Glad you enjoyed it
Good choice of robust walking shoes for this video. Breaking out the dress shoes or Church’s brogues now and then never does any harm though.
Austin gets more comments on his outfit than the videos 😅
Excellent explanation.
Very informative. Those cylinder mowers are precision machines for the connoisseur. I have a pair of old ones I found I was going to sell but may just keep one after watching this, although my lawn is quite rough at the moment.
I noticed the crank is slightly bent on the battery rotary when you spun the blade. That means it has struck an object. A blade carrier with swing back blades save that from happening. A heavier disc blade carrier also has much more reciprocating mass which helps the mower run smoother and the momentum actually helps it perform better.
This is the video that encouraged me to go for a cylinder. I used a Hayter 56 for many years and it did a great job but as you say I wanted to take the lawn to the next level. I ordered a Kensington 20b from Allett with a scarifier/ lawn rake and a verticutter. I will still use the old Hayter for general work but will use the 20b for the perfection. Allett mowers are first class and you will not regret buying one, they give a great finish. Once you go Allett there is no going back 👍🏻
Thankyou for your lovely words Stephen! We can’t wait to see your lawn photos!
@@ALLETTMOWERSUK make young Austin a brew tomorrow and say it’s from a very happy customer 👍🏻
What a great video. I have a Hayter 56, it is a good mower but I would love an Allett. Cylinder mowers are far better. I remember my great uncle mowing with a cylinder mower. He had a cracking lawn 👍🏼
I rake twigs and stones prior to mowing before I mow any mow how there’s a reason that I use both but my rotary only once per month. I use a roller driven manually powered reel mower made for putting greens, tennis courts etc a few times per week however every month I rake my lawn from one end to the other being certain to remove any thatch or dead grass that would interfere with emerging new growth and it’s then that I use my cordless rotary mower with bag as a vacuum cleaner. It’s adjusted slightly higher than my reel mower.
I mist the lawn in each zone with water for twenty minutes and the next morning mow it with the reel mower to stop the bleeding.
I’m fifty eight years old and in a few years I know that I’ll want a powered small reel mower. I’m only interested in cordless electric and I compared your Liberty to the new offering. When the time comes I’ll select the Liberty. The machine is already of proven quality from its gas variants just as my rotary’s quality and performance were known to me as my prior rotary was its gas variant, and I’m a pragmatist. The Liberty has a battery that is available widely and is removable from the machine as that’s the way it’s charged and enables the user to have multiple batteries whereas the new competitor’s design has an exclusive battery that resides in the handle of the machine and must be disassembled to be changed. These things matter in long term ownership.
....and when the time comes you can get yourself a scarifier cartridge (or ask Santa for one).
Well done presentation. I like how you also included the standard measuring system along with the metric I always have to try to figure out what’s what and I really wish we would all use the metric system is so much better and more accurate!
Using 25mm = 1" is a great way to approximate most imperial-metric conversions. It's not perfect, but it's close enough for most things
Probably the most useful, impartial and balanced video I've seen on mowers. Excellent. On the basis of this talk I'm going to put my toe in the water and buy a used cylinder mower to see if I like it. Thanks for taking the time to provide such a detailed comparison.
Thanks for your kind words Robert!
Very helpful. I have inherited a lawn that for years has been cut with a rotary by a man who wasn’t greatly careful. I would love to buy a good quality cylinder but this has persuaded me that for the short term at least a rotary is more appropriate. I just wish I could afford one of your mowers now but I suspect that day will have to wait.
Glad you found it useful
The best idea is to have both mowers. Cylinder mowers don't do well on somewhat steep areas where a wheeled rotary mowers will work just fine.
Excellent video series from Allett! I love how expert knowledge is put over in an uncomplicated way for the layman.
I am really looking forward to getting my Allett 17" with the scarifier cartridge. I don't yet know if Liberty or Kensington.
Very worthwhile watching the whole video. It was nevertheless interesting to see the high-end Honda with the roller achieved quite a decent result.
But of course the heavy Allett Buckingham has much the best stripe contrast. Wonderful stuff!
*Question: I'm concerned that my utility grass type is not suitable for cutting short. Should I keep overseeding with an ornamental grass type?*
All the best and thanks again for a great video. Rob in Switzerland.
Interesting video. I have a battery-powered rotary mower (complete with rear roller for stripes) and it does a very good job. It does leave nice neat stripes on my lawn. I do understand cylinder/reel lawnmowers give a better finish but to be honest I can't be bothered with all the adjusting required to keep it cutting well. Plus due to my shiftwork I don't have the time to cut the lawn about twice a week.
Sounds like a rotary mower is for you then! You need to be doing more than just cutting your lawn though! Your lawn will be building thatch
great information
Glad it’s been useful
Top stuff...Very well done.. Lots of useful information thoroughly enjoyed and the presentation was not too long, thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Really great video.
I am REEL man for all the reasons sited within this comparison video.
I did want to add a few considerations for this ‘neutral’ video:
* if you have a rotary mower, and want to move to a reel, be sure to keep your rotary so that you have a unit to pick up sticks and debris, so that you can vacuum the lawn prior to REEL Cutting.
* reels perform the most precise cut and there for you will have a less maintenance and healthier lawn overall.
* if you do not prefer to cut more than twice a week with a REEL, you can use a growth regulator with your fertilizing schedule so that you mow your precise REEL CUT lawn the same frequency as a rougher
ROTARY CUT lawn.
** ALLETT has a interchangeable cartridge system to completely embrace and take care of the lawn. You can remove thatch, you can verticut, and you can brush, all with the same unit. Any lawn mower can cut the lawn, only an Allett can improve, promote, and deliver a showcase lawn which is cleaner, healthier, and less maintenance than a lawn subject to rotary cutting.
Thank you for manufacturing the best in value and producing the greatest results with your technology, for the lawn.
Allett Mowers I do t understand how people say they can afford an Allett. Surely, the diary cost is substantial, but that’s just one moment in time. After that, the system of accessory may be purchased. There is a savings on fuel and lawn inputs. Inputs meaning water and fertilizer, due to a healthier lawn ultimately costs less to maintain. I have actually saved money over the years mowing with a cylinder. I love the accessories, because they are affordable and does not leave me with a multitude of tools in my limited space.
I am a fan of Allett.
Thanks Matt. These are really good points - you think about this as deeply as us! I'm sending our next script to you for editing BEFORE we shoot the next video. I like your growth regulator advice. I'm going to do some research... Really appreciate your super-helpful comments.
Austin Jarrett thanks! I would be happy to assist in any way with Allett. Just yesterday my turf was looking a little drab, so I got out my electric (plug in), flimsy scarifier and scarified the entire lawn, then hand raked up all the piles of debris, then did a triple cut. It was a royal pain and took well into the dark of evening to finish the job. To have an all in one resource within a single Allett “system” would have a clear time saver and would allow me to make quick work of what should have been a very simple and enjoyable job. Instead, it was a process of using multiple tools and a lot of work. Allett systems make the lawn fast and efficient, and enjoyable. ...and that’s what a lawn is... enjoyable. Lawns are enjoyable with the all in one Allett. Please send me an email at mattdegooyer@mac.com and we can coordinate the next video. I am very much looking forward to that. Talk soon!
Austin Jarrett I can share some helpful information on this topic for your consideration. My email is mattdegooyer@mac.com.
A good, balanced and informed view, thank you. I wanted a cylinder mower, however, after watching this video a (battery) rotary mower with a roller would be a better choice for me.
Have you got any photos of your lawn?
Happy to have a look
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@@ALLETTMOWERSUK Will do, thanks
It would have been nice to see three comparable machines together, of course a lawn mower that is 2 or 3 times the price is going to be a clear winner.
The lawns were also cut before hand so we don't know how much double cutting went on before hand 😉
Though all in all, I would expect a higher quality of cut from the cylinder mower. Great video, though 💪😁
@@ALLETTMOWERSUK The joys of shooting footage in lawns, I know it only too well, it's hard to get that all-important first shot. Once it's cut, it's cut!
I use a similar roller rotary to the one featured leaves a nice finish though is never going to compete with a good cylinder mower on finner turf.
Though I know plenty of my domestic lawn care clients have the same machine, I don't know of any that have invested over 3k in a professional cylinder mower.
My video this week is all about cylinder mowers and low heights of cut. I can't say the brand on here, though it's red in colour lol to give a clue :)
Great video though!
Great video 👌
@@ALLETTMOWERSUK really good! I'm definitely getting old!
@@ALLETTMOWERSUK hahah.. I was 35 last month! So deffo in the mid 30s now.. ahh.. simple pleasures.. mowwwing..
Great video - one of the best in recent times. Really like they way you describe the machete type action. I think you could have made more of the fact that the rotary mower is a "one dimensional" piece of equipment vs. the interchangeable cartridge system available from Allett. It's interesting (and I'm guessing your sales will be the real proof of this) that having ordered a Kensington - the one item that was on the longest lead time and not available at the time of the other items was a scarifier cartridge. The fact is that if a homeowner only bought 1 additional cartridge i.e. the scarifier - they would (a) have a healthier lawn (b) have less weeds (c) promote grass growth (d) greener appearance (e) less moss - all for between £ 142 - £ 202. Using a rotary setup, you have to buy an additional machine and quite considerable cost (double at least for a robust non electric corded machine). I think that's a very important point on the features/comparison/cost proposition. Anyway my "Man Maths" says a scarifier saves me from having to buy/rent a separate machine. Excellent VLOG. Well done & as a final thought - very helpful to hear that the blades in a home situation might only need to be sharpened every 2 years (albeit with some lapping). Would be helpful to have some links in the description to those other videos. The same applies for the time stamps you put up at the top of the video (very useful). Put those in the description too - they are easier for the viewer to refer to part way through the video.
Thanks for taking the time to feed-back. You make good points, and I cannot fault your 'Man Maths'! Great direction to make better and more useful Vlogs - we're determined to get better at this. Thanks again Graeme. Appreciated.
Austin Jarrett You’re doing a great job - just keep at it !
Really good video. One question regarding cylinder mower. Which gives better cut cylinder in front or trailing cylinder or it does not matter?
I cut with a good make rotary at 2.5 inch and get real good results . Working on the principal that the grass colour is good because the longer blade allows the plant to absorb more energy , and therefore looks healthier . If I was to purchase an Allet would I have to cut lower and therefore loss my dark green colour .
I apologize if I sound doubting , but I am unsure whether to purchase or not . The Allet looks a real quality mower and this video is a first class production of the pros and cons of both mowers . Fairness in the extreme.Many Thanks for upload .
Hi... why are you worried about colour? Premier league groundsmen all cut low with cylinder mowers aswell as Wimbledon . Take a look at Daniel Hibbert too who cuts with an Allett Kensington. Your lawn would be trained to be cut with a cylinder and thatch free
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@@ALLETTMOWERSUK Thanks for reply , I follow Daniel on a regular basis and to be honest I think you have me convinced .
If you've overseeded or top dressed your lawn a rotary mower will do a good job of "hoovering" up all your hard work!
And a cylinder can be your lawn roller to properly bed the grass seed! There the best!
What type of grass is that? It looks amazing
What can I do to prevent the rear roller from rusting over years of consistent use?
I looked at the prices for the Allett mower. I can say that they are not cheap. At that price, I can't justify it for my own personal use but, if I had a lawn maintenance company, I could justify the purchase of the machine and all its cartridges.
Hi Derek - cylinder mowers aren’t cheap I’m afraid. They are well worth the money if you want to take your lawn to the next level though
@@ALLETTMOWERSUK As I said, if I had a lawn maintenance company, I'd own the whole entire system in a heart beat. I have watched videos on how well it cuts and I am impressed.
I'm not actually a fan of striped lawn , I much prefer it all nice and lush green and uniform. Funny enough my partner thinks the same lol
I'd highly disagree with your comment about mulch clippings, this is an untrue rumor and it provides nutrients to the grass when it breaks down which goes back into the soil. I actually never collect my clippings and the neighbours all envy how my lawn looks, so thick and green and oh so soft.
The only time I used to do it was at the start when I was getting rid of the weeds, after that never again.
Also with edge mowing, funny you should mention that, I literally dangle my old rotary half off and it cuts brilliantly (it is a plastic electric so it is very light), my new steel deck electric though I can't and I actually hate it a lot more than my cheaper plastic one. The cut is exactly the same but it being so heavy is just a PITA for no good reason.
That’s ok you can cut the same way!
Have you ever taken a section out of your lawn? It would be interesting to see your thatch levels. My neighbour mulches and his lawn is yellow and spongy all summer because it’s struggling for water and the thatch is eating any nutrients that mulching offers
battery powered
sold!
Most frank.
Loved the video....
Would you recommend buying a refurbished allett....which is not cheap.....or just buy New
Regards Declan
@@ALLETTMOWERSUK
Thank you for your very quick reply.....
Regards Declan
I'm highly interested in the Liberty 43, but I'm not sure I can always mow @1.25", sometimes I would like to mow higher. Is there a way for the Allet to cut ✂️ @ 2"? My manual reel cuts as high as 2.25" and that has worked well when I can't keep up with it.
Hi can I get your email please? email me Laura.malkin@allett.co.uk
How do the cylinder mowers handle uneven lawns?
Hi they’re not designed for uneven lawns
The most impartial video I’ve ever seen from a manufacturer
Austin likes to be honest!
If you dont care and your lawn is crap then the Roatory is your best choice
Which one is better for uneven or bumpy lawns ?
Rotary
You know where you stand now: if you are "quite bored with the detail of this video, then... you probably are a rotary mower customer".
true though... most rotary customers just like to cut their grass once a week and see mowing their lawn as a chore
There's pros and cons of each and to my mind no clear winner. I still feel the vast majority of UK lawns (a ryegrass red fescue mix) even when properly cared for with tlc will look and be healthier when cut at or above 1 Inch....... which means using a rotary mower in many cases. Of course with a rye free lawn or the next generation of ryegrass that will tolerate low mowing then of course a cylinder mower will give a much better finish. Cut above 1 Inch I feel there is deminishing returns.
@@ALLETTMOWERSUK ill take a look 😊 I'm on the fence at the moment. You may be able to convince me!
@@ALLETTMOWERSUK unless it's the Allett uplift 86 of course 😉
@@ALLETTMOWERSUK yes the uplift 86's versatility is high, a side by side comparison of turf cut at 25mm would be interesting.
Please traducción subtítulos in Spanish
I am so sorry I have only just seem your comment 2 years on!!! I have added the Spanish subtitles
Please bring bigger battery powered Liberty mower for American lawns
Coming soon 👍
@@ALLETTMOWERSUK waiting eagerly
It's such a shame Allet entirely ignore the sub-£1000 market (sub-£1200 for battery models) - I know reel mowers tend to be enthusiast products, but surely you could at least get somewhere a little closer to the £500 ego self-propelled 42cm model, now that you're sharing technology with them? £500 might be optimistic, but a £700 model wouldn't seem too absurd for a hobbyist level tool
Does anyone know who manufactures the battery powered rotary mower in this video?
Looks like a Bosch Professional
Why are cylinder mowers 10x more expensive?
For me the lawn striping is just time-wasting garbage!
You’re on the wrong page then 😂
We’re all about lawn stripes
He likes the IDEA of not burning fossil fuels, yet the electric power grid world wide is fueled by.... fossil fuels and more importantly if it wasn't, we'd not have enough power by any other means thus far without crippling the entire global economy. Glad he likes the "idea" though. Meanwhile those batteries that are likely made in CHINA created more pollution damage than the tiny engine would have that was rarely run anyway and is small in cubic combustion size. Good video otherwise.
Thanks for your kind words
There will be no cars made in the UK from 2030... we aim to do the same with our mowers and have already stopped making petrol products.
Statistics say if we keep burning fossil fuels at the current rate there will be none left by 2060... and by then we will probably be in an environmental disaster with climate change - we will do everything in our power to help! Battery power is the future and many of our American customers are seeing that
@@ALLETTMOWERSUK You're DEEPLY confused on your facts but that's not your fault, you're being fed BS data. Sad.
@@ALLETTMOWERSUK You also failed to touch on the real crime, the nasty battery mining and manufacturing business. Tell me, where are your filthy batteries from? Lemme guess, clean China? LOL Think it through fella. You're using a bucket to bail out a sinking super-tanker.
@@ALLETTMOWERSUKDo you have an estimate of the actual power consumption from cutting grass with a rotary mower vs. the power rewired to cut the grass with a cylinder mechanism? I understand that cylinders use a lot less energy.