The Wonderland Murders & The Secret History of Hollywood INTERVIEW-Detectives Tom Lange & Bob Souza
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- LAPD Detectives Tom Lange and Bob Souza, the lead investigators of The Wonderland Murders discuss the case and the new podcast THE WONDERLAND MURDERS AND THE SECRET HISTORY OF HOLLYWOOD with Cherry the Geek Los Angeles TV's Joe Vanourney.
THE WONDERLAND MURDERS AND THE SECRET HISTORY OF HOLLYWOOD is an 8-part Audible Original Documentary which was released on July 1st, 2021, which is EXACTLY 40 years after the Wonderland Murders occurred (July 1st, 1981). The podcast is written, narrated, and produced by famed crime writer Michael Connelly (writer of the Bosch books and The Lincoln Lawyer).
Tom and Bob, thank you for your service. As soon as I heard the first jury was 11-1 I knew there was a bribed juror. What a shame, that Nash, Dials and Holmes never answered for their crimes while alive. That being said, as I say, “Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas, and Sometimes you dont wake up”
Ive read malice in wonderland. I highly recommend it to those who are interested in this case.
Thank you. I'll have to check it out.
👍 Thanks. Four On The Floor is also a good book on the murders at Wonderland.
Ask the detectives their opinion on why The Nash didn’t kill Holmes after killing the Wonderland Gang.
Maybe he thought he'd be of more use to him alive.
Thank you for the video guys ,great job 👏
Great interview! Very professional. There’s no question Nash ordered the murders, I’m interested to see who actually carried them out. It’s just odd to me that none of the players would name them even on their death beds
Must have been some very bad dudes that would have taken it out on the surviving meme era of their families perhaps.
Not really, the mob itself has hundreds of murders that are unsolved that many members took to the grave. The whole deathbed confession garbage is a relatively new phenomena. There was a time when people in the game actually did take their criminal acts to the grave. The guys in Nash’s crew were old school, they weren’t giving up a thing. 👍
Ron Jeremy pulled the hit
The killers were John Holmes, Greg diles, and his brother.
Thank you detectives for all your hard work, Jury’s a lot of times fell sorry for men
Fantastic how you just get right into it, like adults. I hate podcasts when idiots just laugh and talk crap and swear. Great series you have here. Nice job!
Going to Amazon to buy the book.
Lots go on the general public don't even know about. Manson, this, Jim Jones, night stalker. Etc list goes on and on.
Something creepy is going on in California. Aka Sodom
I couldn't agree more. Podcasts have a subject to discuss and they typically spend 10mins talking about nonsense before getting into it.
superb insightful podcast on this famous horrible case. Well done sir.
They need to do a new movie on this .Val kilmer done a great job of playing John Holmes ,perhaps a new Netflix film on it
not another cheap netflix cashgrab.
Great interview. Really liked the part of the detective answering their house phone with people callin to get drugs
" nah he's not here how can I help ya out? "
Amateurs left Nash alive.
They didn't think there would be a return strike?
Exactly that was their mistake
Ron L. wanted to kill them but was talked out of it by one of the other gang members.
That's not entirely accurate. According to Tom Lange, Ron Launius wanted to kill both Eddie Nash & Greg Diles but David Lind along with Billy Deverell talked Launius out of it. At the time of his death, Ron Launius was under suspicion for as many as 27 murders...Launius was no amature!
You ain't never lied. They should've killed Nash and Diles. Or left Cali the next day.
I wonder was any of the loot ever recovered.
what would anyone do
when they get uninvited guests ???
Sounds like an interesting book!!
I remember as a kid growing up in Hollywood-the 4 on the Floor Murders; 5 blocks from our apartment off Hollywood Blvd. I was fascinated yet disgusted!!!!
Eddy Nash owned the Odyssey where ALL the sexually unexplained went as teenagers to party: One of the first places to play Madonna WAAAY before her first full album 💿 came out. Every couple weeks a new single would land, “Physical Attraction,” “Think of Me,” Everybody!!”
Wow! What heady times We lived in at that time!! Suddenly in ‘84 all the geeks and wannabes like Steven Gozelius started infiltrating Our hangout and We all left in droves!! Every wannabe wanted to be a part of “Odyssey” making US sick 🤢 🤮!!
This should of been alot longer of a podcast
I agree! They were so good here.
I will read your book. Compelling story.
Yeah fevious ,me too and it alleays looked to me like Richardson tried to get up and eas either knocked down or fell. Cant get nd any info on that sort of thing.
Best John Holmes movie is "Sweet Captive" (1979)
Thanks! I'm gonna try to find it.
Okay, I'll take that under advisement...😁
Is it me or does this guy (top right) looks like Jon Stewart 🤔
I thought that too lol
Scott Thorson is gross. All of these people were terrible . The peripheral sludge of our society.
Bravo 👏 you couldn’t have said it any better I feel the same about most of Hollywood.
I'm 24 years clean. Heroin lived under bridges etc. You'll never meet a more disgusting group of people than people like me, and those I ran with.
We are sickening! I am a non violent offender, however the life I lead is an abomination. I believe I helped kill my own mother. I broke her heart.
We are ruthless and will destroy your life if you bring us in.
Jesus Christ is the only Way to release Lucifer. The only way to find truth, and to own it.
My life is absolutely amazing today, I have my family, friends and a beautiful job with incredible humans.
Jesus Christ is the only way to get it, and keep it.
What do you think of the movie they did!
Did Tom Lange ever solve a case ?
Has Tom Lange ever solved a case?
Lol😂
Have you?
Unfortunately not.
Jut because juries were biased or bought off, it doesn’t men the case was not solved.
All these cases were solved but the juries didn’t choose to convict. Do you see the difference or is your anti Lange bias too strong?
@@rapman5791 You are right too, but Lange can't really prove the facts.
Cant believe that liver lips nash eas the cidco kid wa wa wa wa wa!
F you look hard you can find the crime scene video Tom Lange is the Host .
Show me your friends.....and I'll show you your future.🙏✝️💯👍
They're all crazy
Did any victims have defensive wounds?
Not really, barely. They were overtaken quickly.
Deverell did
Tom Lange sounds so funny, HE SOUNDS LIKE HES EXTREMELY JEALOUS OF HOLMES. ITS FUNNY AS HELL
I do not believe that.
WTF are you talking about. Tell us all how Tom Lange is jealous of Holmes and the murders? You have a creepy mind
I didn't get that at all.
@kgc.tanto8902 sounds so funny, HE SOUNDS LIKE HES EXTREMELY JEALOUS OF TOM LANGE. ITS FUNNY AS HELL
O don't think Holmes would be there willingly. I think he was there so if Nash went down then Holmes would go down with him. On the other hand those dudes who ripped off nash are portrayed as scum of the earth. It seems the world is a better place without them and they fucked around and found out
Whatever happened to the survivor? Did she go into witness protection?
I read that Susan Launius is alive and lives in the San Bernardino area. Lind, I believe, went into witness protection.
I'm wondering how so many of the victims where still in bed.. ..there had to be a lot of noise.....it looks like Billy deferral could have briefly been on his feet because he was found leaning up against the tv....but it looks like Ron launius was probably sleeping......just something I've always been curious about
It apparently happened at 4AM.
They all were
There were multiple killers.
They all were on heroin
They were all high on herion.
But Mr Lange you didn’t solve this case don’t see a conviction anywhere on this
Johnny Wad…
Wadd, actually.
I know
Tom Lange can not convict celebrities what a detective lolol
Lange...did you ever solve anything?
Well we know who killed the wonderland gang. And we ALL know that OJ is GUILTY. So yeah id say he solves his cases. Blame the outcome of the trials on the prosecuting attorney you idiot.
Tough to solve it when the elitists have more money than a local police can ever have.
His high profile cases all have wealthy defendants, and yes, you can research his career. He has solved many many cases.
Do better dude, you're a grown man. Pick up a book
John Holmes said Eddie Nash had more power than the police. When your own superiors are telling you you can't talk to the prime suspect ( Nash ) it's no wonder Lange and the DA couldn't get a conviction. This had more to do with the power Eddie Nash wielded than Lang's ability as a homicide detective.
I understand the politics but the question still stands. Presently nobody has cited a specific case aside from the one at hand that Lange has solved. I'll find a case that Lange solved! It will take research but I'll find one. The Dude abides...
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making money after the murders is real shame.
Hi
I know sumthin about it
Ok