Naturehike Cloud Up 2 Person Backpacking Tent Review 2021
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Have you ever heard of Naturehike and the Cloud UP 2 Person Backpacking Tent? Its actually a pretty good, lightweight, backpacking tent at an affordable price. But before I could recommend it I wanted to put the Cloud Up 2 through its paces with a good rain test and more. And what I found is for the price the Cloud Up 2 is a really good tent. It holds up to rain well, comes with some decent features and most of all its affordable at $165 (at the time of this recording). So check out this review to see weather or not the Cloud Up 2 is good enough for you.
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Let's be realistic this tent is high quality they use these all over the place in the UK. The real issue is that other brands are extremely over priced. I have had the star river 2 for years and it will go toe to toe with any expensive tent and they come with free foot prints. And let's stop talking about foot print weight that does not make a difference. The modular designs are way beyond the competition.
Other tents that see this kind of design but are more costly use more expensive and well made parts. You can try to say these two tents will work the same just fine without the better parts but it does matter on how much you do go out hike camping.
With weight, it does matter if you are a hike camper. If you are a car camper then yes, weight is meaningless and why bother. However, when you are out there hiking 10 or so miles/16.9km a day then you do want to reduce that weight to make your hike more comfortable. For someone that hiked with a 40 pound/18kg bag for 5 miles/8km I can tell you that you do feel it. If you see that you can remove a certain piece of gear that you cannot see yourself using all too much then yes, you are carrying dead weight. That is the mindset of an ultralight hiker. Plus, which would you rather carry a footprint or an extra snack bar?
@Gifted Fox I am not speaking from a fantasy world when I say that the weight is not a big difference compared to the coast. Also, this tent is made from quality parts, so you can't apply the quality of components to this. I have this tent, and I have back packed with it allot. If you are lugging 40 pounds around, you need to rethink your packing or camping skills. This tent is n9t one of them. Leave the TV and DVD player at home.
When a few grams of extra weight become an issue, I suggest investing a few bucks and time in weights or the gym.
@@giftedfox4748 why are you hiking in with a 40lb backpack?
No disrespect, but foot print weight does make a difference, especially on backpacking tips. Most hikers/backpackers, including myself want an ultralight groundsheet; we're always trying to keep our packs as light as possible.
My husband and I have this tent and we are BEGINNER campers/hikers. BOTH times we've camped with this tent it has rained all day/night and despite SOME condensation, we stayed dry and warm. During one night's HEAVY thunderstorm we had a few drops of condensation on us but overall I felt very impressed with how it held up.
This is a great tent. Don't let anybody fool you into believing this is a 'beginner' tent or entry level. I think a lot of people try and find fault with it because it's priced so far below comparable tents.
This thing is not only priced well out of the gate but it goes on sale regularly. I picked up the Poly version for $70 as a starting out tent. Super impressed with it and even though I've since bought something a little lighter, it was difficult finding any reason to need another tent. I still use it in my regular gear rotation when I'm expecting bad weather conditions.
A lot of people have a subconscious need to justify their purchases and that usually entails faulting the cheaper alternatives. We're all predisposed to doing this, I guess, but some are better at keeping it under control than others.
Then there's people who really just don't know much about tents. They go and buy a poly tent because it's affordable and they think it's good quality because the material is thick and heavy, and it might be a good quality tent, but not because it's thick and heavy. Then they see a Naturehike tent with a design they like and it seems light, so they buy it and get it home and find out it's paper thin and/or it sags when it gets wet. Because they don't know much about different tent materials they think it's cheap junk because it isn't the same as their poly tent.
THEN there's the worst of all - The elitists who no matter how much a tent costs or what brand it is, it's a POS because it's not their $2.5k SuperDyneema UltraMegaElite Mountain Master that's so light it bobbles around like a balloon and comes packed inside a Tylenol bottle.
You are 100% on the mark , I used/still use a decathlon tent and can’t fault it , used it for seven months around Europe cycle touring , I laugh when I see numbnut creators showing you their touring gear for a week tour in that vein areal shot of them ant their gear and they have a $2000 tent and other overpriced gear , could have bought cheaper stuff and toured for a month or two.
I have a hiking business and hike for days on end, I completed a 1000 km trail here in heavy rain and strong winds; I have never been dripped on, and the 2 person is not heavy. Naturehike are great tents, full-stop.
I've got a Cloud Up 2 - taken it out backpacking a half dozen times. All-in-all, I like it. it seems loosely based on the Big Agnes Fly Creek, but at half the cost (and is truly freestanding, unlike the Fly Creek). Pros: It's relatively lightweight, easy to set up, just big enough for me, my dog, and my gear, yet still small enough to be set up in small spaces. Cons: I'm not crazy about the front-opening (it's kinda awkward getting in and out if you're sleeping with your head by the door, which appears to be what they intend) and condensation can be a bit of an issue, since there's no vent at the head end of the fly. Oddly, I've found sleeping with my head at the foot end addresses both of these cons pretty well, since the fly has a vent at the foot end.
Don't know if the 2 is that different but I have the Cloudup-1 (updated version) and it has both a vent at the peak above the door flap where the poles meet and also has 2 mesh side pockets. The version I have is 20D vs 210T, so has a higher waterproof rating, essential in Scotland.
I've bought one of the variants (the lightest silnylon one) of the first version years and years ago and it has honestly been amazing. It's still my main tent for both hikinh/trekking and some casual camping as you just can't beat how light it is.
Do you use the groundsheet? Trying to see if I need it (I'm trying to reduce carry weight!)
@@Rufiowascool You don't need it I guess. I use cause it prolongs the life of the tent, means I don't scrape or pierce the floor on some rocks, etc. Imho it's not a massive amount of weight to carry around. But you can for sure skip it if you're pushing the weight as low as possible.
@@nuadarstark Thank you so much - very much appreciated!
i have the cloud up one for a few years now, and its been well used on bike-packing adventures, its a great tent, its never let me down in rain storms. i'm currently looking to also purchase the the cloud up 2 this year so i have more room for longer adventures. highly recommend this tent for the price
Did you use it in cold weather ? Just got and willing to go to the highlands ( north Scotland) don’t know if I’ll survive with it or not 😢
I had this tent for 3 years and it served me pretty well. My main issue with it was the front entrance, felt like I had to be a gymnast to get back into the tent over my sleeping pad after getting up in the night. I've upgraded to the Durston X-mid and the side entrance is much easier to navigate!
I would be interested in a direct comparison of some gear (you choose), the high price versus budget option. It would be cool to see "this is what you are paying for." Love that you're getting some budget options reviewed.
Yeah, I’v thought of doing that before. I think that could be a cool video.
Luke from The Outdoor Gear review did that with the Naturehike Vik and Mongar tents.
I used my Cloud up 2 for the first time this June and I love it. I'm about 5'-10" and a little over 200lbs, so the 2 person is just right for me and maybe a skinny girlfriend, but not a buddy lol. I looked for month for a budget tent and this one was the best I could find. This tent is replacing the Mountain Hardwear Optics 2.5 which is also a great tent with alot more room but it weighs twice as much.
Great review and a great little tent! The price of 119 dollars is for the polyester version and 165 dollars is for the nylon version. A little difference in price, weight and qualities.
Nice catch.
Which one should I get? Is the difference noticable?
I bought the nylon version because it is a little more durable, 300 grams/10 oz lighter, and the fabric is quieter in wind and rain.
@@SchwappSchwopp The weight difference is roughly half a pound. You won't really notice that on it's own, but it's a substantial contribution to whatever weight saving measures you might be taking overall. Because the material is thinner and lighter, the pack size will also be smaller. Like the weight savings, it's not much on it's own but it is when combined with other things you might be doing to reduce your pack size.
All that said, nylon is really only worth it if you're backpacking, purely for the weight and pack size reductions. If you're car camping, it's not worth the extra expense. Or the extra work, because nylon expands and sags when it gets wet and you have to readjust it, else it might leak, and that means you can't skimp on guy lines and they have to be positioned properly. And when it dries up it's going to shrink and be pulled super tight, so you really should readjust it AGAIN to relieve some of the stress on the material and stitching.
If you ARE backpacking, yes, you should spend the little extra for the nylon. It's worth it and Naturehike tents are very good quality, so you have an opportunity to buy a superior tent for very little money compared to name brands, like MSR, Big Agnes, etc. which, ironically, are made by Naturehike.
@@Im_With_Stupid Thanks! I want to do backpacking and bikepacking so I guess the 20D version it is. Are there any other tents that I should take into consideration? Maybe 3FUL Lanshan2? I really need to spend less than 200€ though. And what about sleeping bags? Thinking about the Kelty Cosmic 20 down currently although I'd like to spend less €. For the pad I already ordered the Klymit insulated static V lite for 90€.
Thanks for the review of this tent. I've had it for two seasons now and take it on bike tours with me. Never had a problem. This tent will be great for anyone looking to try out camping and not break the bank. When I purchased it, I paid closer to CAD $200, but I consider it money well spent.
which seasons are you referring to? Winter and automn or summer and spring?
@@fajrsabouni7753 2 season always refers to spring and summer. 3 season includes fall. 4 season included winter
Got this for 87 bucks today (amazon prime day) for my 12 year old..can't wait for him to test it!
Hi, I looked at this tent in 2020 but then bought the NatureHike Cloud Peak 2 instead. I prefer a semi-geodesic dome tent and where the inner and outer flysheet stay together so that the inner doesn't get wet when erecting under rainy conditions.
The design makes it stronger in windy conditions and it also has two doors & two vestibules so better access and storage and the mesh inner tent does have a pocket inside for small items (phone, keys, small torch (flashlight) etc.. It also includes the groundsheet (footprint) and, unlike the Cloud Up 2, the flysheet can also be erected without the inner tent or groundsheet if required, but the inner cannot be erected without the flysheet.
Due to the dome design, there is very little slack in the side-walls of the tent, it's much more taut and, if required, fixing the guy ropes eliminate that.
The main disadvantages are that, because it's a dome design, the inner tent isn't as long, so it's not ideal for anyone more than 6ft tall, it's also slightly heavier than the Cloud Up 2, but that's not a problem for me as some of my camping is from my motorcycle so an extra 1Kg (2 Lb) is negligible and even less if used without the groundsheet. it does take a little longer to erect as it has three separate poles rather than one linked pole system, but all three poles are identical so no need to determine which go where.
I've used it in very windy & wet conditions without any problems proving the 4000mm hydrostatic head (same as the Cloud Up 2), as compared to some other tents where it can be as little as 2000mm. My tent had no untrimmed seams or stitching and I've not had any issue with the aluminium pegs (stakes) supplied even in soggy soil.
BTW, Naturehike's website now describes the Cloud Up 2 tent as a 3 season not 4 season tent and there is a separate version with a snow skirt, so possibly that might be more suited to harsher conditions.
Best regards, Tony - UK Camper, motorcyclist & SCUBA diver.
This is an interesting option. Thanks for sharing.
You couldn't explain it better than that Man !! I have 3 tents fron Naturehike plus all my motorcycle gears are from this brand since 2016 and none of them have failed in any circumstances or wheather conditions !!
Cheers 🍻 👏 ✌
I bought this for my son, to be fair I prefer it over my MSR hubba hubba, the front entrance is much easier to see out of, with the door open. as well it is way easier to get in and out of the tent.
the front vestibule works great for heating up some water in a rain storm, and keeping your gear out of the rain.
I was living on Vancouver island at the time, we did both the Juan De Fuca, and the West Coast trail, in the Pacific rain forest. the tent never leaked once excellent tent for the money.
Purchased Cloud Up 2 in August 2021 as I wanted more space than my Marmot Tungsten 1 person tent for kayak camping and backpacking. I have to say I love everything about it and soo much room when solo in the tent.
Yeah it’s great for solo trips.
Miles, I just purchased both the Marmot Tungston 1 and the Cloud Up 2 trying to decide which one to take on the A.T. trail. If you had to pick one for a 5-6 day hike, which would you prefer?
@@richromano1093 If I had to use one or the other I’d go with the Cloud Up 2. As much as I love my Marmot Tungsten 1 having the extra room in the Cloud Up 2 is the deal maker.
The CloudUp2 has a couple of versiosn besides just the Nylon v Poly choice, they have the update version with vents at front and rear - and also the version with snow flaps. I think the snow flaps is where they're saying "4-season", not the regular style. I have the snow flaps and they're awesome at eliminating cold drafts (camping winter in NZ) and in strong winds (beach camping in Western Australia, just pile sand on the flaps and it is solid as a rock)
Ive used mine on dozens of trips so far and absolutly love it! There is no coming close for such a quality tent for the money
I got mine on sale for $89 on Amazon and love it, I use it more than my MSR 1 person. It is waterproof and tones of space for one person.
Just used mine for the first time a few weeks back. Was very impressed, just enough space for two cots and my dog, with our gear in the vestibule.
I bought a NatureHike 'Hiby". I added a stove jack for my small titanium stove. Very few small tent this can be done. Due to their design, I actually works well.
I was able to get this tent on sale for $89 as my first tent and it has worked perfect. I would agree the walls can be a bit droopy but other then that there are no issues!
Excuse me, where did You get it for such money?
The $165 version is 20D nylon. The $90-120 version is the same except 210T polyester, which is good too (just weighs a little more)
So glad my son noticed that little detail. I ended up with the 20D Nylon version and I cannot believe how light it is.
i own a lot of naturehike gear, and so far, i haven't been disappointed
I use a tent maybe once a year at some lake place with friends, so weight isnt a big deal, because we drive there. For me the most important aspect is quality and ease of setting up. Nothing is more annoying than waking up after some party tired, knowing it will take half hour to disassemble it and put everything in the bag.
Get the cloud up 1, its lighter, has a big enough vestibule to fit your bag easily and has room around your mat to store smaller things it also has a side pocket. I got mine for like 90 bucks of off Amazon. The cloud up 1 has basically no other down sides. I have used this tent on multiple one night trips and back yard campouts, I've used it in wind and rain throughout the year and it has done marvelously, I highly recommend this tent
I have a 1 person version. I would agree with you about the walls. Other than that it survived a really powerful storm with flying colours.
I just found out they have an ultralight version (2 pounds). I’m trying to get my hands on one
I have this tent and is GREAT! I have been on heavy rain and no water inside.. It's compact enough for the price point.. It's freestanding so points for that! It's small for two people (big enough if you are with your girlfriend.. or VERY good friend.. 😂).. but overall rating: very good! Approved by me! 😎
I like the length of this review. The footprint is good for setting up a tent in rain (start with a fly) and the door is poorly designed as you can't open it during rain. Overall, one of the best options on the market around $150
I agree on the con that the sides should be taut. Ideally, they should be stretched by the tent frame alone, clips from the side to a fixture, preferably the tent poles. However, this may require a redesign.
The reason why you got the $165 tent is because they sent you the SilNylon version. The $120 version is the SilPoly version and weighs another 4 or 5oz more. The SilPoly version is superior in the rain since polyester does not sag when wet.
Naturehike makes multiple versions of the Cloud Up. They sent you the 20d SilNylon version. For $120 they have the SilPoly version, $160 is the 20d version, $190 they have the 15d CloudUp wing and for $230 they have a 10d superlight version.
I’m curious. Why do you say that a sagging silnylon is better than a nonsagging silpoly? The rest of the tenting community is thinking in the other direction.
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Its not better. Silpoly, which the X-Mid has, is a better matieral. It just weighs more typically. It depends on what you want.
what is your opinion about 20D, It looked thin and probably fragile, is it? or it's just an impression?
This was my home for a month whilst i did a 400 mile hike in the UK. I had 50 mph and nights with heavy rain for 8 hours and this little tent coped with everything the elements through at it. One thing that wasnt mentioned in the video was pitch time. It is such a simple little tent and i had pitch time down to a shave under 4 minutes from arriving at camp to sitting inside. An excellent option for anyone wanting to explore the outdoors, not just beginners.
I have the Cloudup 1 updated and it's the best budget three season tent you can buy. It's a copy of similar looking MSR and Big Agnes tents. For 20% of the price of the above you get 80% of the quality. While the Cloudup doesn't have all the bells and whistles, it's ultralight and made from quality material (at least if you buy the 20D version). I'm very pleased with the purchase and if I ever need to buy another tent I definitely will get another Naturehike one. It's so good that I really don't see any reason to spend 4-5 times more on an MSR tent.
The polyester is a good tent, too. A little heavier than nylon but more weather resistant and a longer lifespan. I think it's awesome they offer the poly as well as the 10D and snow skirt versions to make the same tent viable across a range of needs.
I used the nature hike for several trips. I like mine. Good in heavy rain and wind. And frankly keeps warmer inside then my tiger wall.
I’ve been waiting for an opportunity to use mine (I don’t have a backyard to test it in) so this makes me more hopeful it will work!
Won’t go anywhere tooo remote my first night anyway
I hope it serves you well enjoy your trip!
When quoting weights I would appreciate the breakdown in terms everyone can relate to ... please state both Lbs and Kg's in future - it will make your reviews far more accessible.
No problem. I have started putting metric stats in titles on the screen. Check out my most recent video to see an example
@@MyLifeOutdoors Awesome, ta!
Thanks for the valuable contributions from Commenters who have differentiated between the versions of the Cloud Up 2 (20D vs 210T).
This has been super helpful filtering through all the options/offers on Amazon - have just pulled the trigger on a 2-person 20D fir my daughter to take on her DofE exped. Should be fine enough for two teens for one evening and positively palatial for one plus her gear.
Naturehike tents are actually really solid.
The vik has problems with condensation, but the cloud uo and Mongar series are really really good.
I have this tent. I love the small stakes. Here in Ontario Canada the ground is so rocky and there is almost no soil so longer stakes are useless
Awesome review.
I have a Naturehike Mongar 2 that I have taken out twice and had no issue. It rained my last outing and there were no leaks and I had no issue with condensation.
I’m really impressed with Naturehike’s gear. They are making good stuff cheap. Thanks for watching!
I have this tent but I’ve ended up buying lighter and more expensive tents. I still love my cloud up 3 when taking my kids with me. You’ve made all great points, the thing I don’t like about this tent are the zips. They don’t work well.
I've seen reviews of some tents costing over three times the price of the Naturehike products where the manufacturers use more expensive and lighter materials (such as "Cuban fibre") but they don't finish their tents and require the owners to seal all the seams!
Although they may be 30% lighter and possibly stronger, I doubt that they will last 3 times longer in normal use and paying $600 / £500 for an unfinished product is taking the P1$$.
Super expensive products are IMHO generally bought by three types of person, the first are those who do push the boundaries and need extreme kit to survive. These are the minority. The second are those who want to use them in extreme conditions but never do and have the money to buy the best even if it's overkill and are the majority of those who buy expensive kit. The last are those with money to burn and are driven by either peer-pressure or want to show off that they have the best kit. They will never really need the best kit.
@@ful48j well said 👌 Naturehike make great stuff and for 95% of people it does the job! I bikepack (bike + camp) over 1000kms at a time and honestly Naturehike would have done the job. The 1kg weight saving is important on mountain climbs but I would be better off losing weight than buying an expensive tent haha
Picked one of these up a few years back and really enjoyed it. Think it cost me around £70 / $90 via AliExpress.
I looking for comenta about this camping tent, for now, i Will Buy, for My fast backpack for camping!!
Thanks for this video!!
I own tons of tarps, hammock flys & tents from super small to crua Loj 6 person base camp tent I still feel the best Camping / BP tarp I’ve ever used is the SixMoon Designs Deschutes Tarp tent unless your Glamping
Bought mine 4yrs ago and it's the best light weight low budget tent out there.
Proove me wrong.
It is 4 seasons, just not 4 Seasons in an extreme blizzard in some remote alpine area. One would buy a different tent for that!
I have this exact tent and same colour for 2 years and I am extremely happy with it, faster setup than any of the pricey tents, dependable, front door for the views. However, the footprint is important as with rough camping tiny holes 🕳 will be in the bottom of the tent allowing the water to get into the tent if it rains, but could be solved with the special tape , another con is breathability if no or low wind is there as it is front door only while two side doors could be a little better in that
The white/red color in 20D nylon is $95 on Amazon right now. If he thought $120 would have been an amzing deal, then now it's a steal.
I got one and I like it. The only thing I was disappointed with is that they sell it as a 2 persons tent, when in fact is a comfortable 1 person tent.
I've been using Naturehike gear for over 4 years. Good stuff, have to wait for sales, then it's an amazing deal.
Mine ordered August 2021 has two mesh side pockets as well.
I recently bought this tent but the one for one person, its almost the same thing but its design is kinda different, you shoukd make a video reviewing it
I have it and really like it. Performs wel and very easy to set op.
Con is the front opening. After 10days TMB I found I like a tent with a bigger side opening better. Also because when it rains, the flap falls inside so you get wet getting in and out...
So I bought the Star River 2 (after comparing with the Mongar 2).
For UL trekking I'm now looking at the 3FUL Lanshan. Hear many positive reviews.
Have one. Great tent, just a bit difficult to get in and out. Looking to get their Naturehike Mongar 2, which has a side opening (MSR clone I hear).
I have the Nature Hike Mondur 2P, which is comparable to this in weight and size, but it has two mesh pockets on the head and foot ends!
3 years later and it's $109. And they actually do make a Four Season version now with a snow skirt
Idk, the cons seemed like nit picking to me. I’d like to learn how it held up in wind and how was the condensation after a cold night
Watch summit or nothing,trev does a review in really bad winds,tent is pretty bomb proof 👍
I have the Naturehike Mongar 2, it's a great tent for the money. Not as light as others but perfect size and features for when I backpack with my dog or use it for moto camping
Hey Steven I’m not sure if you know. But you were correct. It is actually 119 dollars. But that’s for the 210D version. The version you received for 165 was the 20D version
I have a cloud up one, the upgraded 1 person in dark green. The only problems are when the door is open while its raining, water can drip inside. Also the little clips that hold the inner to the outer are too short, pulling the bathtub floor up at an angle. I added shock cord to the loops on the ouside of the inner where the clips are to peg down separately
Just got one and willing to go to highlands 😔
I'm happy with my $30 tent from Big 5 Sporting Goods. I've had it for 6 years. I just don't use it in the snow.
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In Bangladesh I bought this brand new cloud up 2 (20D best version) with just only 53$.
It is superb quality.
I am a big fan of the Duplex Zpack and Stratospire Li tent which I have both. Not freestanding and wanted a free stand for a sandy beach. Yes I can rope out the two tents on the beach and attach to logs but I thought why not try a cheap free standing tent after years of not owning one. Did not take the footprint but brought a cheaper lighter material for under the tent.
Slept with my head at the door and had no problems with condensation but I had the fly door open. There was big wind and this tent was bombproof. Last night on the beach it rained so had to close the door and there was no wind. Yes condensation happened but it was very dry in the tent. Yes the inside walls sag but I found putting my gear on either side up against the walls worked perfectly. I even checked to make sure that by doing this the inside walls did not come in contact with the fly and they did not. Yes a quick fix would be to make this tent with the inside walls naturally extending away from the living area but my solution worked while in the tent and it was not annoying. I recommend this tent and am glad I made the purchase.
I had a Naturehike Cloud Up 1 and, it a very good tent, but I was disappointed, with the lack of headroom and the shape of the footbox area. I'm sure the 2p version would've been much better.
Great review 👍
Just received my Cloud up 2 today and I’m looking forward to my first time using it.
I didn’t even think about just using the footprint and fly, I’ll have to try it this fall when the bugs are gone.
Iv never slept in a tent with just the fly. You will have to let me know how it is. I hope you enjoy your cloud up.
Thank you for the review, I really like your channel! I have the Cloud Up 3 (20D version) myself and think it offers great value for money. Thinking about buying the UL 10D version of the Cloud Up 2 and would love to see you do a comparison video of that one vs simular UL freestanding tents by a brand like Big Agnus. Furthermore I am also wondering how the 10D version will hold up in the rain. Cheers from the Netherlands!
Love my cloudup 2 pro, 1 person palace. And the high price probably includes import taxes? I did get it for about 100USD (in China, where its made).
Also would say it holds its own in winter, used it at -8 degrees Centigrade, however not in snowy conditions so it is a 3 seasons tent. Perfectly dry and surprisingly ventilated.
Donwnside for me: tiny vestibule… no cooking there and the front entry means no views.
Big pro: was playing around with no fly now mesh set ups, surprisingly versatile.
Just got a Paria Bryce from a sm company in Colorado, I had thought about the cloud up 1. I am very happy with it on first impression. Has two pockets above tent floor. Less than 150
I’m hearing more and more about Paria. I need to check them out. That’s a great price! Im glad you like it. Thanks for watching!
the 40$ mismatch is because they have a version made of polyester, which is cheaper. the one you got is the nylon one, which also explains why the walls were droopy like that since the mounting points are probably designed for the less stretchy polyester variant
I bought the CloudUp 2 poly version. Pitched it under a tarp on a sand tent pad and used the footprint under the tent. After a solid night’s rain in the Canadian Laurentians I awoke to water on the floor of the tent! All over the place. So glad my gear was in bags. I don’t know if it soaked up through the sand then the groundsheet then the tent floor but I thought that being under a tarp with the footprint should have made a difference. It made me question the waterproofness of the whole tent. Needless to say that fail means I no longer have the tent and now have the Eureka Midori 2P instead. A note about footprints. I did not use them with my first tent, a MEC Tarn 3 which has a sturdy floor but somehow it got two small holes in it from something sharp I did not know was there. Since then I always use a footprint be it from the tent maker or homemade. I also find that even pitching on grass that in the morning there can be condensation on the bottom of the tent so having a footprint means I have a smaller thing to dry.
I’m sorry to hear you had that experience. I know there are quality control issues so it makes me wonder if you just had a defective tent? Either way I don’t blame you for ditching it for something a little more reliable.
Was it wet AND windy? I could imagine that if wind pushes the rain hard enough the tent might be receiving water rather from the side than from straight above. Suitably strong side wind could force the lower part of the fly against the upper edges of the floor part so water running down the sides does not pour properly away from the tent but is pushed by the wind between the floor and the groundsheet.
@@dogmanone8237 I agree with what you’re saying but in my case the tent was covered by a tarp pitched with a ridge line that covered the tent. The tent’s fly was dry the whole night so there is no way the fly could have been pushed against the inner. Plus I had pitched the tent using all stake out points so that it was properly held away from the inner at all times. Wind was not a factor that night.
@@wanderworm Actually I think the flooding might be a problem in general. I was watching (here on YT) a channel called Bike Touring with Mike and he was using the Cloud up 2. His tent was flooded the next morning. Check it out: the series is called Bicycle Touring Provence Day 2. I'm having second thoughts about this tent. Cheers.
Got cloud up 1 omg what quality omg light weight for Australia use inner bcos loads ticks snakes crawlers .
I like your analytical thinking process. Here’s a suggestion that was recommended to me by Cliff Jacobson. In my experience, he is correct.
All tent floors either already leak, or will. A footprint - no matter how much overpriced they are - can prolong the leak starting. But seldom prevent the final onset of seepage and leakage. The emphasis here, should be to PROTECT THE CAMPER, NOT THE TENT.
A cheaper, more effective approach is to get a piece of visqueen plastic drop cloth. Measure the tent floor, and cut a piece of visqueen that is 4” longer, and 4” wider than the tent floor. Fold up a 2” high edge on each side and end; miter each corner; and secure the folded corners with duct tape. You now have a waterproof bathtub to use inside the tent. In several camps, I have had rain seep, soak, or leak in. It ran between the plastic and the floor. I and my gear remained dry every time. When the plastic does get a pinhole, duct tape on both sides is a temporary patch. A new piece of plastic starts you out all over again.
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June 2023 ... Prices dropping, finally. I paid $100 USD in 2018 and it's been great. Awkward getting in and out but unbeatable performance per dollar. Made me want more! Now the mongar and cloud peak are down off their covid highs and I've just bought both.
I have one and have used it 3 times and like it.
Great review! You know I love a budget option! Looking forward to see you comment on others comments on how the size felt. True 2 person? Or more of a 1 person + gear? Thanks for sharing!
It feels like a true two person. But in all honesty I haven’t had two people in it. But for sure 1 with gear no problem.
@@MyLifeOutdoors I think with two persons inside you have to stack your gear into the cramped vestibule (if you want to have them near you anyway) which in turn makes a quick visit out when nature calls in the middle of the night quite a challenge.
@@dogmanone8237 I agree. I never put my pack in the vestibule, at most my shoes and maybe a water bottle or sat communicator. I leave my pack outside with a rain cover. But it is inconvenient if I want something from my pack.
It's physically big enough for two regular-sized sleeping pads, but because of the single front entrance, single, small vestibule, and headroom issues, I would call it a 1 person + dog & gear tent, or two kids tent.
I have used it with my girlfriend and it is okay for two people (we have sleeping bags that zip together) but if you hike frequently -> consider tent with two doors..
How did you manage to never use a footprint? 👌🏻 How thick was the tent floor of your tents most of the time? 20D? And did you had any moisture problems on the floor with that?
Remember that is a truly reliable lightweight gear for the Walmart price! Way more excel than other products at this price range with no major drawback.
I have a couple naturehike products. Hit and miss like things sized for very small people. Quality has been good though.
Just bought the 20D Grey version of this tent on sale for $91 usd, taxes & shipping included! Grey wouldn't have been my first choice, would have preferred the 20D Green, but at less than $100 I'm not complaining.
Where did You buy it?
Have bought a Marmot Crane Creek 3p tent for 169 Cad+tax;((( in 2022 so Naturehike didn't won in this competition and so far I haven't regretted.
A two way zip on the front door would be handy
What other brand was selling high quality NYLON tents for $160 two years ago? Because that's the thing. Sure, you could buy high quality tents for $160, but they were heavy, bulky polyester tents, not nylon. Two years ago, $160 for a high quality nylon tent was a steal. Today, the price is closer to $200 and that's still a very good price. The only name brand maker I can think of that even comes close is Sierra Designs.
Paria makes good and reasonably priced gear. And some Kelty stuff is pretty good. REI makes some of their own gear that has good pricing though sometimes the quality is off. Decathalon makes cheap gear, but sometimes it's just junk that falls apart very quickly.
I have this tent and truly enjoy it!
Yes, good tent, prices on Amazon fluctuate, wait until you pick it up cheaper 🤙
I think I did buy it but the 3 person. I love it. The three person has four mesh pockets. You can place your garbage bags over the mesh to close off the mesh
I think that tent designers should stitch ties along the screen so that you can affix garbage bags to it
Cause under high heat like in Europe at plus 40 degrees it really keeps you a lot cooler
I really love this tent it's like a mansion
I like a closed in tent cause too many times bugs some poisonous crawl into my bags and you can wake up in the morning with numerous ticks attached to your arms.
Great review! Thanks for doing it. I am considering between Cloud Up 2 and Mongar 2. I would love to know which one you will recommend.
The Mongar is going to be a more convenient tent as far as size and getting in and out. But it’s also a lot heavier. I don’t spend a lot of time in my tent, mostly sleeping (maybe a little more in the rain) so I prefer to save the weight. But you may want the connivence. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!
hey, i got this -- a little heavier than I expected, but nice tent
Awesome vid, as usual!!
I don't even know your name! Do you ever introduce yourself??
I really really love the MSR Elixir 2, I have fallen in love with it after much research and even though I'm gutted that it's still quite heavy for a hiking tent, at 2.5 kg, I absolutely will sacrifice the weight for the durability, the amazing design that it is, and all its features!!
It's everything I want in a tent and more!
The colour! Very important indeed, being that lovely olive grean, stealthy!
The shape and style!!
The pole structure, way more bendproof in stormy conditions!!
The rainfly being super low!
The pockets and design of mesh! Plus I also love that there is more a blocked fabric, making it a true 3 season tent!!
It's just fantastic!!
I would LOVE for you to get that tent and give us your thoughts?? I'm trying to save for it!
My name is Steven, it’s Nice to meet you. If I get an opportunity to test the MSR Elixir 2 I’ll take it. Thank you for the request. I’m always interested in what people want to see. Thanks for watching!
@@MyLifeOutdoors oww! I'm so glad you took notice! Thank you!
Hello Steven, so nice to meet you! I'm Lenni (female solo/couple hiker).
I really enjoy your content and it's just amazing to me. You produce such good quality vids that are so entertaining and smart! And your personality is so likeable and friendly!
Yes, if you can get your hands on the Elixir 2 I would be so hyped!!
Thanks again for commenting 😊😊🙏🏻🙏🏻
Good value but pretty straight copies of other tents, down to the colors. The logo looks like MSR.
They ended up changing the rating to 3 seasons! Your voice got through to them
I know this was posted over 2 years ago but this is currently on sale, along with the north face storm break 2, which would you recommend?
similar cheap but efficient chinese tent i appreciate is the 3F UL GEAR Cloud 2
I’m not familiar. I’ll check it out. Thanks!
Thanks for the good info about the NH Cloud Up 2. Your weight information doesn't seem to match the manufacturer's info, or have I missed something? They say the whole kit is 4.7 lbs. You're right about it not being a 4-season tent, otherwise all tents are 4-season tents. Thanks again.
Thanks. So I should have mentioned this but the weight I mentioned is without the foot print which I’ve never used on any tent I’ve ever taken. But because the footprint is included with the tent i believe they are including it in the product stats. I used my own (cheap) scale to get that weight.
I believe the Cloudup 3P is 4.7 pounds. The Cloudup 2P is under 4 pounds.
Pretty good review if brief. Being able to set up the fly and footprint only is s plus however, can the tent canopy itself then be clipped in underneath the fly? That would be critical for keeping it dry while erecting it in the rain.
Just set this up and commenting from my camp site. It was the absolute smallest (packet) 2 person tent I could find. Barely over 15 inchesd long X 3.5 inches. Light! Set up super easy, costs far less than big brand back tents and this one still came in smaller dimensions packed. Set up, easily two 6’4 or shorter can fit with a little extra space. Highly under rated and rivals and over priced 3-season pack tent like Marmot, Big Agnes, Eureka, etc.
Naturehike does make good gear. I have three tents and two chairs from them and it's all fantastic stuff, but the name brands aren't necessarily overpriced. Those name brands have a much higher overhead and invest a lot in R&D to create products which companies like Naturehike, who actually makes a lot of those name brand tents, simply copies. They do have a few in house designs, but most of what they make is either just clones or uses technology based on someone else's R&D.
In any case, where Naturehike and others like them falls short is customer support. They basically have none. You get a 30 day Amazon return window and that's it. If you have a problem past that their warranties are useless because they ignore you. In the event they don't, if two weeks after you contact them they actually reply to you, their solution is this: Send back the entire tent at your expense, wait for them to inspect it and then maybe they'll send you a new one. They don't ship parts at all, ever. Marmot, Big Agnes, MSR, etc., you can call them on the telephone and speak to someone immediately and if you need a part they will send it, just email them a copy of your invoice and a picture of the damaged part. Do it early enough in the day and they'll probably ship it out that day. There's a cost associated with this and a portion of it is baked into every product they sell.
Can’t decide between this and the phoxx ii v2
Sounds like a good starter tent.