How football used to be. Includes clips from Spurs v Man City in the 1960 season. Also snippets of Wolves, Cardiff and Celtic fans arriving at their games.
I think there was still media hype I mean it's the national game but it was in a different way and for the right reasons. The media loved the football for the passion and excitement it brought millions up and down the country every Saturday not for the big money now involved in the game
Working class football, work all week and on a saturday see your pride for only 2 quid at most, packed on to the terraces, the passion, god football really has gone to the dogs
Looking at comment history on your channel I get the impression that you love modern football? Let me guess, you're not even half the age you'd have to be to have been a match going football fan when this film was made?
berbatov3890 Does it matter how old he is? The point is that football these days is being marketed too much towards the middle-classes & being taken away from it's roots........Rest assured one day this will come back to bite the football clubs & authorities in the arse as the notoriously fickle middle-englanders will readily abandon the game when it's no longer popular among their peers..
berbatov3890 no i wasn't old enough for it, but hearing stories from my nan who was a follower of tottenham at this time gives me a pretty clear understanding of it, and videos like this just improve my feeling more then ever.
The same can be said for most stadiums, sadly it became the only way they could reduce hooliganism and even then it never fully worked. Stadiums like White Hart Lane, Main Road and Highbury were able to retain a lot of the atmosphere due to the fans being in tight proximity to the pitch but it was still never quite the same
Remarkably, this is the 1958-59 season in which my book on Bill Nicholson opens. The clue is that the FA Cup final features Forest against Luton. Wonderful stuff. The Way We Used To Be.
What a great piece of football nostalgia- Molineux, home of 'The Wolves', good to see the old South Bank gates next to the Molineux Hotel- passed through there hundreds of times!!
In nearly 50 years of supporting Man City, i have never, ever seen this kit before....and i don't want to see it again lol shocking, great result though, we keep on winning ;)
Is it really an improvement? Let's face it going in for a sliding tackle on a pitch covered in mud after a whole day of it pissing it down with rain is a lot of fun
1960,s - small boys invade the pitch to get an autograph. 2000,s - fan steps foot onto pitch, gets wrestled to ground by police, fined £2000 pound, loses job and gets lifetime ban by club.
@ Norman Giller: the game featured (from 5.02) was Tottenham 0-1 Manchester City on 16 April 1960. The presenter Cliff Michelmore keeps harping on about 70,000 regularly packing into White Hart Lane but the official attendance that day was just 49,767, about average for that season. The last time Tottenham had recorded a gate of 70,000 or more at WHL was 22 Sept 1951 when 70,882 watched Spurs beat Manchester United 2-0.
I was there for the 6th April game and saw Bert Trautmann save the Jones pen. My arms were sticking through the railings in line with the six yard box. They could be mine there. I wondered why the ref didn't give the goal, but found out later.
Someone asked me recently that if I had a time machine then what year would I go to. My answer was and is 1960. This film shows exactly why. We have ruined our country.
@@ShellysAshes Exactly. The people were never asked and any time there has been any kind of unofficial opinion poll the majority showed they did not want the destruction that has occurred.
@@colinellesmere First of all muddy pitches are far more enjoyable to play on than fake grass, if you haven't gone in for a sliding tackle on a pitch covered in mud after a day of pissing it down with rain you simply haven't lived. Secondly there may be more inclusivity in the playing side of football which I will admit is an improvement you know what else has happened? Football has stopped being a game for the fans. Your average fan's got no chance with rising costs. Football's become a game for billionaire owners and big money players who care more about their hair cuts, it's become a shadow of what it used to be, a plastic byproduct of billionaires who've never experienced what it's like to be your average football fan who just wants to go and cheer on his or her team, that's something they'll never understand
'"The fans could not exist without their football and football could not exist without the fans." Announced Michelmore at around eight minutes. Sadly, we are getting very close to a time when football can exist without supporters
Richard Payne I'm American. When hooliganism came in the scene in English football in the 80s, attendance dropped and the top tier of English football was way behind in the 1980s and early 90s. English clubs were banned from European comp for 5 season after the Heysel Stadium disaster along with Liverpool suspension of 6 years. Stadiums were outdated and the FA had to find a new way to get English football back on the map. That's why the Premier League was formed and it made a lot of English clubs reach a billion pound mark today. The Premier League saved English football and it went past Serie A and La Liga as the top league in the world.
N. GT The Premier League did not take the heart out of football. It saved the sport. Why did a lot of English players left for Serie A and La Liga in the 1980s? Answer me that question. People were getting jumped, stabbed, beaten, or killed by hooligans a lot during that time. Stadiums were getting crumbled. What about the 96 people that got killed in Hillsborough in 1989? English football was in its worst period in the 1980s and early 90s. Clubs were banned from European competition for 5 years. Hooliganism messed up English football in the 1980s. Give credit to the Taylor Report for improving football grounds. Clubs like Man U and Liverpool were well supported worldwide because of the EPL,
Showed this to my dad, and he recognized a couple of people, including his old friend Malcolm. It's amazing to compare to today. No replica shirts, and very little in the way of team colours. Great look at the way things were.
This was April 16th 1960 and a crucial Easter weekend for the title race. Spurs were top and second placed Wolves also lost 0-1 at Newcastle and Burnley beat Luton 3-0 to leave all three tied on 49 points with only 4, 3 and 5 games left each.
Lovely lovely video, how it takes me back to my youth. I started going to Tottenham games in 1964, just after this film was made.I have not been to a game since around 1986, is it still possible to pay at the gate or do you need to reserve a ticket? I would love to go and see Tottenham's new ground and watch a match there, but I fear that it will be prohibitively expensive. Nice to hear the great Cliff Michelmore again, I had no idea he was a footie fan, although hearing his pronunciation of Dave 'Mackay ', he may not have been!!
Are you sure this is season 1958/59 Norman? It would appear by what is shown here is that this match was played on 16th April 1960 when Spurs lost 1-0 to Manchester City. A great video this and of crystal clear quality.
And they were heroes! Not your egotistical big money player who only cares about his hair cut you see rolling around the pitch these days. These guys were just like you or me, humble and brilliant at what they did
Despite being focussed on the Yids, I still love this video. I love the days when football was a sport not a cash cow rip off. It was about wanting your team to win rather than sitting down and expecting to be entertained. The working class created these clubs only to be kicked out by the greedy.
Priced out now by big business your average fan hasn’t a chance. The footballs better..the stadiums are safer.. but us fans lost our game along the way
The football's better? The football's better? You sure about that? The football now is better than when 6-3, 6-2 5-3 wins and 4-4 and 5-5 draws, 9 10 11 goal matches were common place? The defensive football on display now by the likes of Jose Mourinho is better than open ended attacking football with both teams giving it a good go? VAR which destroys the flow of a game is better than end to end football? Big money players who care more about their hair cuts rolling around looking for a penalty is better than tough tackles and players staying on their feet and keeping the flow alive? One team running away with a league with100 points is better than 4 or 5 teams being in contention for the title even right at the end of the season? The same old teams winning week in week out is better than anyone being able to beat anybody with a bit of belief and team spirit? Well then I guess the word "better" has taken on a new meaning
The football is better now in my opinion. The players are technically better , fitter and the playing surfaces are better. Even playing equipment is better. The premier league averages nearly 3 goals a game and shock results are not uncommon to be honest . The game has moved on a bit however I do agree real men played in this era and football is all the worse for the diving and theatrics now. The less said about VAR the better.
@@brokerduet5938 Very much disagree on a lot of points including the playing surface, a muddy pitch on a day where it's pissing it down with rain is all part of the fun. Players may be fitter but let's be honest it doesn't really feel like an improvement when you look at what else they're become. Average of 3 goals a game? That's practically a boring match compared to some of the games you used to get in the old First Division back in the early 60s and while shock results do happen it's not nearly as common as it used to be. The league isn't as competitive although that can probably be put down to the fact that a team can now finish 4th and still play in Europe's top teir I mean Arsenal basically lived on finishing 4th for years whereas before if they wanted to have any chance of playing in the European Cup they had to go for the title or else it would be UEFA Cup or possibly Cup Winner's Cup if they won the FA Cup. Of course there have been improvements, there's a lot more inclusivity for players from different backgrounds and cultures but that's just one improvement and overall I can't agree tha the football's improved
“8.01 football can’t exist without fans “ so right all those fans no trouble no hi viz jackets no fans wanting to hurt each other must have been great back then. Can’t wait to this covid 19 has gone and we can get back to normal, and maybe the fans will realise that we can get on without the violence take care COYS
@@kingkane1051 Disagree with you on VAR, I am not a fan but agree with you on the big money, football's still for someone just not your average fan anymore
I've always said this and will continue indefinitely there is English football that is superior to the rest of the world and then the rest of the world that copies English football in a clumsy, painful mistake
During the era when football was working class entertainment and not bloody business and media hype.
FutureIsNow and no hooligans ruining it
During the era when football was for everybody entertainment not like rubbish last 20 years
I think there was still media hype I mean it's the national game but it was in a different way and for the right reasons. The media loved the football for the passion and excitement it brought millions up and down the country every Saturday not for the big money now involved in the game
Working class football, work all week and on a saturday see your pride for only 2 quid at most, packed on to the terraces, the passion, god football really has gone to the dogs
Looking at comment history on your channel I get the impression that you love modern football? Let me guess, you're not even half the age you'd have to be to have been a match going football fan when this film was made?
berbatov3890
Does it matter how old he is? The point is that football these days is being marketed too much towards the middle-classes & being taken away from it's roots........Rest assured one day this will come back to bite the football clubs & authorities in the arse as the notoriously fickle middle-englanders will readily abandon the game when it's no longer popular among their peers..
berbatov3890 no i wasn't old enough for it, but hearing stories from my nan who was a follower of tottenham at this time gives me a pretty clear understanding of it, and videos like this just improve my feeling more then ever.
Two quid young man? Four shillings and sixpence more like!
Wait till Sky get bored with the game!
The irony, a player called Dyson fixing a vaccum cleaner @ 01.40 :)
What a magnificent sight White Hart Lane was before it went all seated....
The same can be said for most stadiums, sadly it became the only way they could reduce hooliganism and even then it never fully worked. Stadiums like White Hart Lane, Main Road and Highbury were able to retain a lot of the atmosphere due to the fans being in tight proximity to the pitch but it was still never quite the same
Remarkably, this is the 1958-59 season in which my book on Bill Nicholson opens. The clue is that the FA Cup final features Forest against Luton. Wonderful stuff. The Way We Used To Be.
This is the only colour film I have seen of the 1959 Cup Final
Great to see an unfashionable club like Southport included. Respect due!
Love this. Fan picking up his Bike with no lock after the game.
people in the house looked after them for 2bob ie 10p
What a great piece of football nostalgia- Molineux, home of 'The Wolves', good to see the old South Bank gates next to the Molineux Hotel- passed through there hundreds of times!!
And once more the crowd ask why he left he's glasses in the dressing room. ..brilliant
love the background brass band music - used to get this before & after every game
In nearly 50 years of supporting Man City, i have never, ever seen this kit before....and i don't want to see it again lol shocking, great result though, we keep on winning ;)
Hi Blue, can you name the scorer? They only played in that Gold kit a very few times I believe.
One must admit that the grass on the pitch is greener today. But that's the only thing that has improved.
Well. For me it aint a real pitch if there more mud than grass :D
@tackler96 screwed pitchs are the worst
@tackler96 yeah lol, only played on these high tech pitches once in my whole life, but screwed pitches have a place in my heart
@@eugenest screwed party as Lib Lab are the worst
Is it really an improvement? Let's face it going in for a sliding tackle on a pitch covered in mud after a whole day of it pissing it down with rain is a lot of fun
Brilliant , some of those routines looked really tough! particularly the jumping up on the benches whilst holding the weights!
See, the UK WAS once a decent place. People dont believe me but its true.
T B Well said!
also now is a decent place
We still are in many ways but not in football
A nostalgic dream. Days that will never come back. Sigh.
Not a Stone Island Jacket in sight.
Or an African, Pakistani etc.
@@folksurvival well whats wrong with them
@@everythingerina9379 I didn't say there was anything wrong with them.
There's a real magic about football from this era. So iconic.
1960,s - small boys invade the pitch to get an autograph.
2000,s - fan steps foot onto pitch, gets wrestled to ground by police, fined £2000 pound, loses job and gets lifetime ban by club.
I`m not a Spurs supporter but I totally love this. White hart lane was such a big ground then.
@ Norman Giller: the game featured (from 5.02) was Tottenham 0-1 Manchester City on 16 April 1960.
The presenter Cliff Michelmore keeps harping on about 70,000 regularly packing into White Hart Lane but the official attendance that day was just 49,767, about average for that season.
The last time Tottenham had recorded a gate of 70,000 or more at WHL was 22 Sept 1951 when 70,882 watched Spurs beat Manchester United 2-0.
I was there for the 6th April game and saw Bert Trautmann save the Jones pen. My arms were sticking through the railings in line with the six yard box. They could be mine there. I wondered why the ref didn't give the goal, but found out later.
Someone asked me recently that if I had a time machine then what year would I go to. My answer was and is 1960. This film shows exactly why. We have ruined our country.
We didn’t ruin it at all. The globalists did.
Yeah. Look what those globalists did. Covered the mud with grass. Fxxxxxng globalists. I'm off to support Xenophobia United in the All White League.
lib lab RUINED the country ...but Tories and Farage FIX IT NOW!
@@ShellysAshes Exactly. The people were never asked and any time there has been any kind of unofficial opinion poll the majority showed they did not want the destruction that has occurred.
@@colinellesmere First of all muddy pitches are far more enjoyable to play on than fake grass, if you haven't gone in for a sliding tackle on a pitch covered in mud after a day of pissing it down with rain you simply haven't lived. Secondly there may be more inclusivity in the playing side of football which I will admit is an improvement you know what else has happened? Football has stopped being a game for the fans. Your average fan's got no chance with rising costs. Football's become a game for billionaire owners and big money players who care more about their hair cuts, it's become a shadow of what it used to be, a plastic byproduct of billionaires who've never experienced what it's like to be your average football fan who just wants to go and cheer on his or her team, that's something they'll never understand
'"The fans could not exist without their football and football could not exist without the fans." Announced Michelmore at around eight minutes. Sadly, we are getting very close to a time when football can exist without supporters
cracking video, football before silly money came in !
Well it was football before hooliganism and fences came in, then the big money came after hooliganism was reduced.
Richard Payne I'm American. When hooliganism came in the scene in English football in the 80s, attendance dropped and the top tier of English football was way behind in the 1980s and early 90s. English clubs were banned from European comp for 5 season after the Heysel Stadium disaster along with Liverpool suspension of 6 years. Stadiums were outdated and the FA had to find a new way to get English football back on the map. That's why the Premier League was formed and it made a lot of English clubs reach a billion pound mark today. The Premier League saved English football and it went past Serie A and La Liga as the top league in the world.
N. GT Disagreed with you. The game have to move on. English football can't live in the past.
N. GT The Premier League did not take the heart out of football. It saved the sport. Why did a lot of English players left for Serie A and La Liga in the 1980s? Answer me that question. People were getting jumped, stabbed, beaten, or killed by hooligans a lot during that time. Stadiums were getting crumbled. What about the 96 people that got killed in Hillsborough in 1989? English football was in its worst period in the 1980s and early 90s. Clubs were banned from European competition for 5 years. Hooliganism messed up English football in the 1980s. Give credit to the Taylor Report for improving football grounds. Clubs like Man U and Liverpool were well supported worldwide because of the EPL,
Saved the sport? It is ruined by money, greed, corruption, agents, diving players etc
Love the documentary on football at its finest.
Showed this to my dad, and he recognized a couple of people, including his old friend Malcolm.
It's amazing to compare to today. No replica shirts, and very little in the way of team colours. Great look at the way things were.
Yer Dads a Liar ............
Better times....
This was April 16th 1960 and a crucial Easter weekend for the title race. Spurs were top and second placed Wolves also lost 0-1 at Newcastle and Burnley beat Luton 3-0 to leave all three tied on 49 points with only 4, 3 and 5 games left each.
Excellent video quality and very entertaining to watch. Thanks for uploading!
Lovely lovely video, how it takes me back to my youth. I started going to Tottenham games in 1964, just after this film was made.I have not been to a game since around 1986, is it still possible to pay at the gate or do you need to reserve a ticket? I would love to go and see Tottenham's new ground and watch a match there, but I fear that it will be prohibitively expensive. Nice to hear the great Cliff Michelmore again, I had no idea he was a footie fan, although hearing his pronunciation of Dave 'Mackay ', he may not have been!!
I have all the FA Cup final 1970's and 1980's watching that and I feel good!
Cliff Michelmore commentated in some matches during the mid to late 50s for the BBC, very weird voice.
Love it. When football was football.
When it was for the fans and not for Billionaire owners
16th April 1960 this game was played 1.0 to City. 1959/1960 season
Are you sure this is season 1958/59 Norman? It would appear by what is shown here is that this match was played on 16th April 1960 when Spurs lost 1-0 to Manchester City. A great video this and of crystal clear quality.
great film
This was when Britain was still civilised enjoying the post WW2 years of the 50s.
Not if you were in any way different it wasn't
this... is... f#*king.. awsome!!!
RIP Bill Nick
Against modern football!
against lib lab murdock ...WE MUST BACK TO BASIC .....back our OLD LOVELY ENGLISH FOOTBALL
Brexit we can SAVE ALL THAT!
In 1988-89 a season ticket Arsenal was £88.
now arsenal stadium is a DISGRACE! SHIT
In the days when you could just turn up match day pay your few bob at the turnstiles and see your British heroes at play.
And they were heroes! Not your egotistical big money player who only cares about his hair cut you see rolling around the pitch these days. These guys were just like you or me, humble and brilliant at what they did
Thought that was Bob Mortimer in the crowd for a second
Despite being focussed on the Yids, I still love this video. I love the days when football was a sport not a cash cow rip off. It was about wanting your team to win rather than sitting down and expecting to be entertained. The working class created these clubs only to be kicked out by the greedy.
ask lib lab tony blair that sold all the beautiful game to murdock to pay tv ONLY FOR BIG MONEY
@@kingkane1051 werent Tony Blair. The premiership 1st season was 1992.
Tony Blair didn't come to power untill 1997.
@@kingkane1051 You total more Ron
Priced out now by big business your average fan hasn’t a chance. The footballs better..the stadiums are safer.. but us fans lost our game along the way
The football's better? The football's better? You sure about that? The football now is better than when 6-3, 6-2 5-3 wins and 4-4 and 5-5 draws, 9 10 11 goal matches were common place? The defensive football on display now by the likes of Jose Mourinho is better than open ended attacking football with both teams giving it a good go? VAR which destroys the flow of a game is better than end to end football? Big money players who care more about their hair cuts rolling around looking for a penalty is better than tough tackles and players staying on their feet and keeping the flow alive? One team running away with a league with100 points is better than 4 or 5 teams being in contention for the title even right at the end of the season? The same old teams winning week in week out is better than anyone being able to beat anybody with a bit of belief and team spirit? Well then I guess the word "better" has taken on a new meaning
The football is better now in my opinion. The players are technically better , fitter and the playing surfaces are better. Even playing equipment is better. The premier league averages nearly 3 goals a game and shock results are not uncommon to be honest . The game has moved on a bit however I do agree real men played in this era and football is all the worse for the diving and theatrics now. The less said about VAR the better.
@@brokerduet5938 Very much disagree on a lot of points including the playing surface, a muddy pitch on a day where it's pissing it down with rain is all part of the fun. Players may be fitter but let's be honest it doesn't really feel like an improvement when you look at what else they're become. Average of 3 goals a game? That's practically a boring match compared to some of the games you used to get in the old First Division back in the early 60s and while shock results do happen it's not nearly as common as it used to be. The league isn't as competitive although that can probably be put down to the fact that a team can now finish 4th and still play in Europe's top teir I mean Arsenal basically lived on finishing 4th for years whereas before if they wanted to have any chance of playing in the European Cup they had to go for the title or else it would be UEFA Cup or possibly Cup Winner's Cup if they won the FA Cup.
Of course there have been improvements, there's a lot more inclusivity for players from different backgrounds and cultures but that's just one improvement and overall I can't agree tha the football's improved
Those were the days
“8.01 football can’t exist without fans “ so right all those fans no trouble no hi viz jackets no fans wanting to hurt each other must have been great back then. Can’t wait to this covid 19 has gone and we can get back to normal, and maybe the fans will realise that we can get on without the violence take care COYS
That bus is kind of awesome.
guy at 4:37 combing his eyebrows :D
1959-the last time we won the FA Cup !
I want Forest in PREMIER NOW!
Not a black person in sight... Wow how things change💜💜💜
great, thanks for posting
how much was a ticket to a game like this
Burnley skins No surrender
Wee boy with dark green cap taking the p. out the band is funny as f* @ 04:34. Plus the 2 kids in front of him.
What year did the wearing of a scarf arrive?
great video
And not a prawn 🦐 sandwich in sight.
We're all having a party...the tottenham fucked it up.. I despise them yiddos.. But gotta say White hart lane was awesome in those days
What a great bit of history! We have come along way, all the way to fucking VAR😩
no var is ok , fuck all the modern football about money ...
@@kingkane1051 Disagree with you on VAR, I am not a fan but agree with you on the big money, football's still for someone just not your average fan anymore
4:33 CHEEKY BASTARDS!
4:05 Never Red?
How things have changed 🤔no longer the sport of the working class man.
I've always said this and will continue indefinitely
there is English football that is superior to the rest of the world and then the rest of the world that copies English football in a clumsy, painful mistake
You really want to believe that bull shit you say to yourself, don´t you?
hahahahahaha.... What a joker
All wearing shirt and ties even while gardening
IDIOTIC