My dad is the Butcher around the 3min mark! He turns 70 next month. He had that butchers until he retired 4 years ago. The whole family are still huge spurs fans! COYS
Spurs in the '60's was the pinnacle of ground atmosphere.NOTHING beats the intensity at WHL then. Every true Spurs fan wants those days back..that's why I love my club.
so happy to have all the memories and stories of going to spurs from 81 . Bunking off school to go to the uefa cup final with all my mates . Que round the ground at 1 o clock in afternoon . Shelfside skins with their white butchers coats with Spurs on the back . I think it was 1.20 on the door . golden years
The atmosphere on the terraces was electric miles better than in the seats football for fans "WAS" better back then cheaper,Better Atmosphere,for the working man 👍
Those guys fretting about all the money ruining the game back then needn't have worried. In ten years time, the Premiership would come along and transform the game into the ethical, honorable, moral, respectable and affordable game for the working classes that we all love today.
+danieljamesmead the premier league has allowed clubs such stoke and crystal palace (with all due respect) to sign quality players, who in 1984 would've been playing in their own national leagues.
Bjork Laser You're right. Every time I pay £60 to sit down in silence in a sterile Premier league ground, nowhere near my mates, surrounded by people taking selfies and discussing their dream teams and heat maps, I console myself with the fact that Stoke have bought some Slovakian I've never heard of who makes more money in a month than I will in 20 years.
danieljamesmead Des Robinson I understand where your coming from but at the end of the day it's 'supply and demand' mate. They set the prices because we're ready to pay for it. We're the reason that those players earn more in a week than we do in a year.
Björk you inferring the league is more egalitarian now? Stoke were in the 1st div till relegated c85 palace started 80s being touted as the team of the 80s. Back then Nottingham forest won 2 European cups off a league title win, villa won league 81 I think European cup in 82 and the scousers won leagues n cups. Look at their opposition in those comps - wasn't dominated just by the big names then. Ipswich almost won a league early 80s Everton and Arsenal won twice each in 80s we thought we had a problem then with the big 5 - I'm Man United but we hate the way football has gone - 2 or 3 home games a season worth going to. Even always are losing the lads now so the league cup away ties is one everyone tries to get to now. No swearing, no smoking fags let alone twisting one, couples, families everywhere (remember when the family stand was where dads n kids went? Where my old man took me loads) it's ruined the game. All these soulless grounds and all the lads who used to go have dropped out. There used to be 20 of us aged 14 onwards who went to United who'd meet at the station, was down to 5 by 17 (1992) dropped in with some other lads remember us taking 2 coaches 93 charity shield out of that hundred a good 30-35 packed in going by 1996. In 1993 we thought the atmosphere had gone at OT - it was positively wild compared with OT c2000. We are talking here about match day culture - the thing we all fell in love with - the match is a small part of a very long day out - Björn you talk about the benefits of premier league almost in economic terms - it's ridiculous - you can debate marketing as much as midfielders now. Not the game we fell in love with? Supply and demand? That wasn't how it worked when united were crap! It was loyalty and passion etc. when we go crap again we will leverage market forces in our favour lol. The sad fact is football used to be a place where working class lads grew up & congregated & enough got the bug to be going years later. That isn't supply & demand it's a shared passion and culture. Sad fact is grounds are full of middle aged folk now (Average age at OT must have doubled since early mid 80s) and whoppers who won't go through thick n thin. We haven't got Enough local kids in our support now & there no where they can congregate n build their own thing anymore. Future fan wise is grim. Spurs away was always lively - long walk to and from ground. Nasty poisonous atmosphere - we loved it - along with Goodison only 2 really good grounds left for 80s style atmosphere.
Would love to see a follow-up on this now. Try and track down the same interviewees, or their families and see how they feel now. Wonder how many of those younger ones grew up to be spurs fans / stayed local....
This video brought it all back. I used to travel all over Europe watching Spurs and recognised a few faces in the video. Seeing Eric, the Spurs fan originally from Aberdeen, made me feel very old. He is just a kid in the video, as was I. I no longer live in England, but still follow the Spurs from afar.
Really good to see some balanced coverage of football fans back in the 80s, instead of all that bollocks glamorising hooligans. Great footage of North London and of White Hart Lane. Used to stand in the Park Lane back then but couldn't afford to get to away games for the most part. COYS
In another 34 years it will be dead as working class kids are already priced out of going and kids will just play more video games..r.i.p...football!🤨👹
Our beautiful game will always be the working mans game. More than just a game. Belongs to the people all the clubs up and down our country. Fuck the establishment and their ideas. Bring back terraces. Good vid spurs from a cardiff city fan 👍🏽
I took the shelf on my own...!!!!! Jokin obviously....!!! Early 80's maybe 84/85...( i was 19) i went with Liverpool couldn't get in the away end so i walked round and paid in the shelf....!!!! Clearly i never said a word.. !!! I got sussed by the clobber i had on but tbf to spurs...they left me alone....! Spurs won... As i left and thought id got away with it....but these younger spurs outside the ground shouted ... There's a scarser....!! And had me on my toes down seven sisters road.....great times looking back....!!!!
Even though I am a gooner and this is that lot; I love this. Fair play. Everyone misses the terraces. I bought some of those sausages and they tasted red and white, to be honest.
Lol. I'm Spurs but I'd have been happy to have seen a similar doc on the Arsenal if this one didn't exist.Some great old footage of North London and of North Londoners.
I grew up watching arsenal home game saturday and Tuesday nite. Spurs home alternate Sat's and wednesday nites. Most of my muckas were Arsenal and Spurs fans, Point being? We all settled with 'Our preference' on the day alas, North London Derby! All fell out and many times, put up enemy lines. However, we still have the ability to get on! The more modern fan hasn't got a fkg clue! Have a good look at Dainton McConnels aka 'The Bear'? So have a proper look in the mirror, ALL, PLZ? Robbie Redmond AFC
I’m not knocking progress, I know that you can’t avoid it and the new stadium is amazing but there was a magic about the old WHL and going to football back in the day.
Lisa's husband, Andy here, I am a Barnsley fan. Spurs are a a great club, that is true. However, I bet Spurs don't give a S**t about these type of fans anymore.
Excellent doc from CHELSEA HEADS. Over the years many thanks for. Jimmy Greaves,Bobby Smith,Les Allen,Clive Allen,Mickey Hazard,Glenn Hoddle,Tez Venables,William Gallas,Gus Poyet,Carlo Cudicini,Graham Roberts,Mark Falco,Jukebox Durie, and Tommy Harmer, Johnny Brooks, Keith Weller, Colin Lee, Sid Tickeridge and Clive Wilson. To name but a few. Thanks for anglo spurs chelsea players but we still hate ya lol.....CHEWSEA---CHEWSEA---CHEWSEA---
Remember judas durie...wouldn't go in penalty box when facing Chelsea in away end..he was verbalised...as we started that unbeaten run of 29 games or so against them 😂🤣
@@redrobins65hkr58 yeh we had a right run unbeaten 90s - 2000-2010s. Durie made his name at Chelsea, scored 5 goals away at Walsall, that day he was world class. Before he came to Chelsea noone ever heard of him.
That time almost every Spurs fans live around Tottenham area, sadly now they end up 20 miles outside. Cos foreigners taken over their houses and businesses.
I am a Tottenham boy left around this time, family sold our house no foreigner took over our house moved to leafy Crouch End........ most English in Tottenham were dead beat factory fodder and had no buisnesses......... Back then Tottenham High Rd was a waste land with white yobs smashing it up on the weekend and West Indian gangsters robbing every buisness at other times....... it was only in the 90s that Turks started investing that Tottenham high rd become viberant......... You do talk a whole ;load of Shit
As much as I hate modern football of what it has become nothing will l stop me going week in week out, meet up with the lads at the top of my street then walk to Anfield two/one hour before kick off go to pubs on breck road stand on the kop and socialize in my usual specs that's what going the match is about la nothing will change that! Fuck knows what it will be like in a couple of years..
My dad is the Butcher around the 3min mark! He turns 70 next month. He had that butchers until he retired 4 years ago. The whole family are still huge spurs fans! COYS
He looks like a nice guy, but I'm not surprised the blue and white sausages didn't sell 😜
6.01 Ray Clemence signs an autograph for a kid, An absolute gentleman. R.I.P.Ray.
That's my mates lad Garry.
Spurs in the '60's was the pinnacle of ground atmosphere.NOTHING beats the intensity at WHL then.
Every true Spurs fan wants those days back..that's why I love my club.
True , nothing like the home games standing in the shelf. Now , all seating (south stand) it's not the same.
Love you Spurs nearly half a century all the ways from Ireland
so happy to have all the memories and stories of going to spurs from 81 .
Bunking off school to go to the uefa cup final with all my mates . Que round the ground at 1 o clock in afternoon . Shelfside skins with their white butchers coats with Spurs on the back . I think it was 1.20 on the door . golden years
Graham Roberts-THFC and Rangers, hard as fuck. Legend.
🇬🇧💪🤍🇬🇧
The atmosphere on the terraces was electric miles better than in the seats football for fans "WAS" better back then cheaper,Better Atmosphere,for the working man 👍
Love this. Up the Spurs. We're not customers, we're football fans.
Those guys fretting about all the money ruining the game back then needn't have worried. In ten years time, the Premiership would come along and transform the game into the ethical, honorable, moral, respectable and affordable game for the working classes that we all love today.
+danieljamesmead the premier league has allowed clubs such stoke and crystal palace (with all due respect) to sign quality players, who in 1984 would've been playing in their own national leagues.
Bjork Laser You're right. Every time I pay £60 to sit down in silence in a sterile Premier league ground, nowhere near my mates, surrounded by people taking selfies and discussing their dream teams and heat maps, I console myself with the fact that Stoke have bought some Slovakian I've never heard of who makes more money in a month than I will in 20 years.
+Bjork Laser I was going to reply, and then i read danieljamesmeads reply. He put it perfectly.
danieljamesmead Des Robinson I understand where your coming from but at the end of the day it's 'supply and demand' mate. They set the prices because we're ready to pay for it. We're the reason that those players earn more in a week than we do in a year.
Björk you inferring the league is more egalitarian now? Stoke were in the 1st div till relegated c85 palace started 80s being touted as the team of the 80s. Back then Nottingham forest won 2 European cups off a league title win, villa won league 81 I think European cup in 82 and the scousers won leagues n cups. Look at their opposition in those comps - wasn't dominated just by the big names then. Ipswich almost won a league early 80s Everton and Arsenal won twice each in 80s we thought we had a problem then with the big 5 - I'm Man United but we hate the way football has gone - 2 or 3 home games a season worth going to. Even always are losing the lads now so the league cup away ties is one everyone tries to get to now.
No swearing, no smoking fags let alone twisting one, couples, families everywhere (remember when the family stand was where dads n kids went? Where my old man took me loads) it's ruined the game.
All these soulless grounds and all the lads who used to go have dropped out. There used to be 20 of us aged 14 onwards who went to United who'd meet at the station, was down to 5 by 17 (1992) dropped in with some other lads remember us taking 2 coaches 93 charity shield out of that hundred a good 30-35 packed in going by 1996. In 1993 we thought the atmosphere had gone at OT - it was positively wild compared with OT c2000.
We are talking here about match day culture - the thing we all fell in love with - the match is a small part of a very long day out - Björn you talk about the benefits of premier league almost in economic terms - it's ridiculous - you can debate marketing as much as midfielders now. Not the game we fell in love with? Supply and demand? That wasn't how it worked when united were crap! It was loyalty and passion etc. when we go crap again we will leverage market forces in our favour lol. The sad fact is football used to be a place where working class lads grew up & congregated & enough got the bug to be going years later. That isn't supply & demand it's a shared passion and culture. Sad fact is grounds are full of middle aged folk now (Average age at OT must have doubled since early mid 80s) and whoppers who won't go through thick n thin. We haven't got Enough local kids in our support now & there no where they can congregate n build their own thing anymore. Future fan wise is grim.
Spurs away was always lively - long walk to and from ground. Nasty poisonous atmosphere - we loved it - along with Goodison only 2 really good grounds left for 80s style atmosphere.
The good old days when you could just turn up at the ground, buy a ticket and stand on the terraces
Spurs we’re nuts in late 70s early 80s , Liverpool had some crazy run ins with them on the seven sisters a few times
Would love to see a follow-up on this now. Try and track down the same interviewees, or their families and see how they feel now. Wonder how many of those younger ones grew up to be spurs fans / stayed local....
This video brought it all back. I used to travel all over Europe watching Spurs and recognised a few faces in the video. Seeing Eric, the Spurs fan originally from Aberdeen, made me feel very old. He is just a kid in the video, as was I. I no longer live in England, but still follow the Spurs from afar.
brings a tear to my eye.......love you spurs
+Darren Ladlow COYS!!!
COYS for life
Really good to see some balanced coverage of football fans back in the 80s, instead of all that bollocks glamorising hooligans. Great footage of North London and of White Hart Lane. Used to stand in the Park Lane back then but couldn't afford to get to away games for the most part. COYS
EVERTON fan here good vid this well worth watching
E V E R T O N, won again, won again Top Team!
Even back in 1984, they were talking about how money is ruining the game. Imagine what it will be like in another 34 years.
When does the 34 yrs start from? Lost me La
In another 34 years it will be dead as working class kids are already priced out of going and kids will just play more video games..r.i.p...football!🤨👹
Our beautiful game will always be the working mans game. More than just a game. Belongs to the people all the clubs up and down our country. Fuck the establishment and their ideas. Bring back terraces. Good vid spurs from a cardiff city fan 👍🏽
Great comment. I totally agree. 👍👍
@@mrkipling2201 just saying how it is mate 👊🏽
@@Shaundarmani1978 definitely mate, I totally agree with you. Well said 👍👍
What ideas do the establishment have?
Terraces disappeared because of the Mickey's
I took the shelf on my own...!!!!! Jokin obviously....!!! Early 80's maybe 84/85...( i was 19) i went with Liverpool couldn't get in the away end so i walked round and paid in the shelf....!!!! Clearly i never said a word.. !!! I got sussed by the clobber i had on but tbf to spurs...they left me alone....! Spurs won... As i left and thought id got away with it....but these younger spurs outside the ground shouted ... There's a scarser....!! And had me on my toes down seven sisters road.....great times looking back....!!!!
Even though I am a gooner and this is that lot; I love this. Fair play. Everyone misses the terraces. I bought some of those sausages and they tasted red and white, to be honest.
Lol. I'm Spurs but I'd have been happy to have seen a similar doc on the Arsenal if this one didn't exist.Some great old footage of North London and of North Londoners.
I grew up watching arsenal home game saturday and Tuesday nite. Spurs home alternate Sat's and wednesday nites. Most of my muckas were Arsenal and Spurs fans, Point being? We all settled with 'Our preference' on the day alas, North London Derby! All fell out and many times, put up enemy lines. However, we still have the ability to get on! The more modern fan hasn't got a fkg clue! Have a good look at Dainton McConnels aka 'The Bear'? So have a proper look in the mirror, ALL, PLZ?
Robbie Redmond AFC
The fella going on about the tout prices earlier on. Nowadays, the normal price is dearer than the tout prices he mentioned.
That's the late Ian Drury 5.36
I’m not knocking progress, I know that you can’t avoid it and the new stadium is amazing but there was a magic about the old WHL and going to football back in the day.
Lisa's husband, Andy here, I am a Barnsley fan. Spurs are a a great club, that is true. However, I bet Spurs don't give a S**t about these type of fans anymore.
When football was proper
Yes proper stupid, FN embarrassing
I wonder what became of some of these fans and where they are now and do the still go to Spurs games.
deleted by the NWO.
Remember several people from this from Warmington House Spurs supporters club from 1984 onwards , friends of the late Johnny Culshaw RIP.
This is what football is about. Predicted way back. There is not supporter anywhere who would not understand this
A wish it was still like that.
Love the senior 'Lass'1 OUTSTANDING NARRATIVE XXX
6:20 breaks my heart
Complaining about ticket touts charging £20 for a £4.50 ticket. We’ve come a long way.
My old mate Vic , with his boy Garry.! Brilliant days on the cattle trains
Do they still go? I'd like to think so
Vic is suffering from Alzheimer’s now God Bless him 😢
Love that old ladie
Walking Dude oh yeah never seen any trouble! Gets stuck in with her brolly when it got lively around her! Haha
Ian Dury going to Spurs! Magic.
Good old days have a beer in the Milford x tottenham boys
is that morgan freemans dad
This is the Tottenham I knew, I started going to WHL in 1981...
WW1 1918?
7.00 not much has changed then. The way English clubs treat fans is a disgrace, meanwhile a season ticket at the likes of Bayern cost £120
bloody hell this looks like ancient history not 1984 ! , good interesting social documentary.
8 minutes 33 seconds thats an 8 year old me
If only they knew what the game would become
That leg breaker of a challenge at 12:12 WTF!!!
😳😳😳 looks like Paul Miller. Not sure who the Norwich player was, maybe John Deehan??
Excellent doc from CHELSEA HEADS. Over the years many thanks for. Jimmy Greaves,Bobby Smith,Les Allen,Clive Allen,Mickey Hazard,Glenn Hoddle,Tez Venables,William Gallas,Gus Poyet,Carlo Cudicini,Graham Roberts,Mark Falco,Jukebox Durie, and Tommy Harmer, Johnny Brooks, Keith Weller, Colin Lee, Sid Tickeridge and Clive Wilson. To name but a few. Thanks for anglo spurs chelsea players but we still hate ya lol.....CHEWSEA---CHEWSEA---CHEWSEA---
Remember judas durie...wouldn't go in penalty box when facing Chelsea in away end..he was verbalised...as we started that unbeaten run of 29 games or so against them 😂🤣
@@redrobins65hkr58 yeh we had a right run unbeaten 90s - 2000-2010s. Durie made his name at Chelsea, scored 5 goals away at Walsall, that day he was world class. Before he came to Chelsea noone ever heard of him.
Used to go spurs from Sutton 1973.4
Spurs til I die
+flying dutchman hahahaha
Trinet Montana hurry up ! KTBFFH
I remember the coloured bloke from all those years ago
I'd love to have a follow up documentary to see what the fans who are still around think about the club's progress. Obviously it won't happen.
Garth Crook?
Coloured ???🧐
Newsmedia hasn't changed...
Ha ha, that elderly lady who said she a Hoolie with her umbrella - great ha ha
To be fair the old bill would go off grid
£20 for a ticket! Done, I'll have 2
That time almost every Spurs fans live around Tottenham area, sadly now they end up 20 miles outside. Cos foreigners taken over their houses and businesses.
I still live around there so shut up
Sad 😔
White flight
I am a Tottenham boy left around this time, family sold our house no foreigner took over our house moved to leafy Crouch End........ most English in Tottenham were dead beat factory fodder and had no buisnesses......... Back then Tottenham High Rd was a waste land with white yobs smashing it up on the weekend and West Indian gangsters robbing every buisness at other times....... it was only in the 90s that Turks started investing that Tottenham high rd become viberant......... You do talk a whole ;load of Shit
Thought the man at 7:26 was going to break into a 'I have a dream speech' COYI
The old girl from 12 minutes... 😁 COYS
6:31 that’s the spurs dna levy’s talking about.
The bloke who describe a 40 year old ,as a old man ,i wonder if he says that now😊
Come On You Spurs!!
notice how hardly anyone is fat- even eating chippy dinner etc.
Poor guy must be spinning in his grave at the site of ticket prices now
Away games back then you had opposition fans and the police to deal with, sometimes you would rather meet the away fans than the police!!
7.13... A youthful Prince Charles, very nearly slams the door into the face of Heir William 😂 Anyways... great doc. Spurs til I die. Coys!!!
Some clubs dont have the history that Spurs do..................................ugh Man City ugh....................
What about the. 81 final knob head
Peanut seller! Forgotten about him 🥲
"All roasted" used to walk around the shelf,can hear him now
"Peanuts?"😂😂🇮🇱
“An old man of 40.” !!!!!
6.52 Jimmy is that you son? Ha Ha!Smiffy x
Terry Venables working in the butchers 🤣
As much as I hate modern football of what it has become nothing will l stop me going week in week out, meet up with the lads at the top of my street then walk to Anfield two/one hour before kick off go to pubs on breck road stand on the kop and socialize in my usual specs that's what going the match is about la nothing will change that! Fuck knows what it will be like in a couple of years..
Pete Docherty! Breck Road Lover?
Old boy selling monkey nuts at 4 min 14 even i can remember him selling them around the ground in early 90s when he was much older
keith lemon at 18.32
The beautiful game ⚽️ invented by the working class only to be stolen by the rich..
RIP Football
Premier league and Sky killing the game since 1992
Spot on
Keith Lemon 6:05 18:31
Coys
Brilliant vid. Old man at 40 though lol, shit I'll pretend I'm in me 30s
no doubt they once were a great club.
Good times :)
Tottenham - biggest tradition of getting battered on and off the pitch in English history.
🤡
Bollocks you faking Rentboy 😂
@@engineere2865 Get a life wankie ...
Won the ball at 12.10!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tottenham
Shame Londoners don't talk like that any more.
Nicked an OLD man of 40! Bleedin cheek.
LOL, an old man of 40
COYS
Merchant bankers
Up the Spurs
💪🤍
spastics then spastics now
Profound that.