Sentimental twaddle! Cheating was just as rife then, just not commented on ! And there were just as many thugs, it was just tolerated more. I should know I've been watching since 1954 !And where did you get the idea they had jobs? They were full time Footballers!
Thank you for the wonderful video. 4:50 The gentleman facing the camera front and centre is my partners father and long time Spurs fan, Derek Hunt. I believe that he played for Brentford FC in the old second division before he was struck down with meningitis, which sadly curtailed his career with them. When he resumed playing, he spent some time at Barnet FC and Hendon FC.
"Fans can hardly exist without their football, football could never exist without the fans." What a perfect summation, one that any architects of Super Leagues would do well to remember.
@MathematicalPhysics indeed they did, did you notice how the bikes we saw didn’t appear to have locks, something else we have lost, definitely couldn’t do that now. I have watched a few of these videos now and it really does make you think how different life was, far more respectful in doing their jobs and everyday life. Don’t get me wrong I love all the advances in everything but think as a society we have definitely lost our way.
This was when the game belonged to us all, Now its a global business, run by wealthy agents, and TV companies. worst of all is, the players don't cycle to ground anymore, they are far too aloof, in their mansions and super-cars.
It didn't belong to us ! It belonged to pompous local.businessmen who.were just as dictatorial as the present owners ! And we found the Fulham and Chelsea players pretty aloof collecting autographs in the late fifties!!
@@johnsaunders2109 You have eleven years on me, so I will concede to your senior experience. I'm from the north, Blackburn, and as a young Rovers fan, I often got autographs from the players who parked their racing bikes in the club car park, some had cars, but very few back in 68.
@@robharding4028 We got them, but usually very grudgingly! Jim.Langley, Tosh Chamberlain and Roy Bentley were fine, but as for the rest ....! It might have been different up north, ther was lots of cultural differences between regions then.
I still remember when very young going to watch Brentford FC with my Grandad, must have been the very early 1960s. In the Fourth Division then but the place was packed. Mostly flat cap wearing and nothing more than animated clapping and a muted cheer or two.
Yellow shirts in north London!! Is it the first recorded case of City wearing yellow kit, as they did at Arsenal all those years later? Fascinating stuff!!
4:47 East - that is a fire waiting to happen. All the grounds of changed so much. There are no charities left anymore, and to think that these first division footballers were stay at home dad's, who could repair the Hoover, and drove a Wolsely!
I recall going to White Hart Lane many times in the late 1950's.There was no hooliganism,obscene songs or chanting.I used to see a couple of their players queuing for a bus near where I live,for home matches.No players earned more than the average working class person in the crowd.Strangely the Spurs team had players with names like Smith,Brown,Baker,White,Jones and Allen.Imagine that today ?
The top players earned at least 3 times the average wage, and after 1961, it was even more! As for hooliganism, it was st its peak in the 60s and 70s!!! Rose tinted glasses!!
@@johnsaunders2109 I was referring to the 1950's, not the 60's and 70's, when hooliganism became a problem.It was a different world.Admission prices were about 2 shillings or 10p in today's money.I even recall they played in boots backs then,as the "Continental" style came in during the late 1950's. No pink boots,gloves and pony tails back then.
@@michaelscales5996 different age! It still had its problems! The match throwing scandal of 1963 ,for example, only 4 years from your ' golden age' !!!
I'd say this was the 16th of April 1961 match? Crowd 40,278. I suspect the 70,000 figure was White Hart Lanes capacity at the time. Great film really gives you a sense of what going to games was like back then. none of your smooth green manicured pitches for those chaps!
Right at the end a reminder that the FA Cup was bigger than the league. And you know who held the record for the most FA cup wins before the premier league started? That's right. Spurs.
He isnt related to Terry Dyson as James Dyson,of vacuum cleaner fame is 74 and Terry Dyson is 86. Terry Dyson is the Uncle of golfer Simon Dyson though.
Cliff Mitchelmore's voice is very distinctive - I remember him presenting a travel show on TV for what seemed like decades. I think it was called Wish You Were Here and another presenter was Judith Chalmers, who was famous for an orange complexion long before it was fashionable. Pre-internet, before dodgy billionaires buying the clubs, one in 50 people apparently going to watch a game live at the football ground - it feels like ancient history now!
Not a replica shirt in sight !!!! If i remember correctly, it was Adidas, in the 70s that promoted the sponsorship and selling of replica shirts.----- In the States.
@@pressureworks in the UK it was admiral they wanted to cash in on the 1974 World Cup which was being broadcast in colour allowing the viewing audience to see what the players were wearing
All bollocks. I got my first replica shirt aged 6 and I was born in 1963. They were available for years before that. What changed in the mid 70s was the branding.
1960 Maximum wage for players about to be abolished and Blackpool were still in Div 1. The lifting of wage restrictions were the death of smaller clubs in the top flight like Blackpool and Charlton. Had to happen, the best a top player could earn then, adjusted for inflation, to 2021 was £25k, not a week but a year!
Looking at the crowd. I think a high % of the men were waking caps. The footballers to me seem old even back then. The quality of the pitch was awful. Their pay was probably £5000 p.a. Now its £5000 per hour. Were the footballers then as fit as today's top footballers?
You said yourself - pitches could be mudbaths back then. So players had to be very, very fit indeed. What has changed is the "mental fitness" required to compete nowadays. At the top level, lapses in concentration are more readily punished now than they were then, perhaps.
They were as fit as they had to be, if it was possible to bring them forward with the same support todays lot get they would be just as good and in a lot of cases better. Charlton smoked most went for a few pints in fact the only time England won the WC was when all the clubs had British players and smoking and drinking was an accept thing not saying it is right just a fact.
City played in striped shirts at that point in their history. The sky blue colour was the thinner stripe - the thick stripe may have been a sort of claret. I forget now.
These men had jobs as well no divas no wags no millionaire life style just sportsman ship and stamina real professionals lovely film 🙏
and most died in poverty
Sentimental twaddle! Cheating was just as rife then, just not commented on ! And there were just as many thugs, it was just tolerated more. I should know I've been watching since 1954 !And where did you get the idea they had jobs? They were full time Footballers!
@@lesmoor001 load a crap. People where built better in them days! Not like todays snowflakes.
I seem to remember one footballer who went to play in the FA Cup Final,travelling to Wembley by bus. 👍
@@johnsaunders2109 a relative of mine played for Chelsea on the early 50’s before emigrating to Australia and he worked full time.
Thank you for the wonderful video. 4:50 The gentleman facing the camera front and centre is my partners father and long time Spurs fan, Derek Hunt. I believe that he played for Brentford FC in the old second division before he was struck down with meningitis, which sadly curtailed his career with them. When he resumed playing, he spent some time at Barnet FC and Hendon FC.
These look at life films are priceless!
They are! You can see where Harry Enfield got it from !!! You really couldn't make up this complacent crap!
"Fans can hardly exist without their football, football could never exist without the fans." What a perfect summation, one that any architects of Super Leagues would do well to remember.
Seeing most of these ' architects' are Americans it would fall on deaf ears !!!
The narrator,Cliff Michelmore ,only died a few years ago aged 97. He hosted”Tonight” on the BBC in the 1960s
Brilliant look our history shame that working class football is dead now these footballers don’t represent us anymore RIP real football 💕
Just their pockets
They never did !
In the lower divions its still here!
@@merseydave1 hope they keep it
@@DeneF you must be middle class
Loved seeing the fella wearing his motorcycle helmet in the crowd absolutely brilliant.
I noticed that and laughed 👍
Good idea! You were always in danger of being pissed on in ' the good old days' !!
😆😆😆
Ha ha . . . Yeah I saw him too. Dressed to impress.
Fantastic when football was a working class game when the people in the terrace houses that surrounded most grounds went to the game
Since when was it ever a working class game? It was dominated by arrogant local businessmen !
Liverpool, & Ibrox, Glasgow for example have the same surrounding environments, but the game has changed towards wealthy elitism.
@@Joe_Peroni No Joe. Changed from wealthy local.elitism to international wealthy elitism!
We are all responsible for making it that way to some degree.
Wow suits, shirts and ties to go to a footy match....... how smart they all look and how different things are now....
@MathematicalPhysics indeed they did, did you notice how the bikes we saw didn’t appear to have locks, something else we have lost, definitely couldn’t do that now. I have watched a few of these videos now and it really does make you think how different life was, far more respectful in doing their jobs and everyday life. Don’t get me wrong I love all the advances in everything but think as a society we have definitely lost our way.
@@R41NES we certainly did have to lock our bikes then !! This sentimental twaddle is getting out of hand !!
Lots of men worked on a Saturday morning so it was a five and a half day week.
Terry Dyson fixing a hoover, weird eh?
Fookin brilliant! Loved this! It's all about the fans, the towns/city you're from. This film sums it up, fab!!!
Brilliant piece of film, God how things have changed.
it's a different world.
1968 my first game great days great people thank you grandad for talking me always thinking of you .Saturday was football day great memories ⚽️👍
Seeing the legendary Dave Mackay on the treatment table, I was told by my dad that he was bombproof.
One of the best things I’ve ever seen on TH-cam. Should have 30 m views
Hats off to the groundsman, that pitch is in tiptop condition.
I had forgot how bad the pitch used to be and that was a top level pitch lol.
All the manure playing on it every week!
@@jasenwright1178 hahahaha
@@TheLucreziia if you can not spell forgotten, then you were certainly not alive when that match was played.
Enjoyed the spurs match knowing that my father was almost certainly in that crowd
No. He'd been thrown out !
This was when the game belonged to us all, Now its a global business, run by wealthy agents, and TV companies. worst of all is, the players don't cycle to ground anymore, they are far too aloof, in their mansions and super-cars.
It didn't belong to us ! It belonged to pompous local.businessmen who.were just as dictatorial as the present owners ! And we found the Fulham and Chelsea players pretty aloof collecting autographs in the late fifties!!
@@johnsaunders2109 Interesting, you must be knocking on a bit ?
@@robharding4028 74.
@@johnsaunders2109 You have eleven years on me, so I will concede to your senior experience. I'm from the north, Blackburn, and as a young Rovers fan, I often got autographs from the players who parked their racing bikes in the club car park, some had cars, but very few back in 68.
@@robharding4028 We got them, but usually very grudgingly! Jim.Langley, Tosh Chamberlain and Roy Bentley were fine, but as for the rest ....! It might have been different up north, ther was lots of cultural differences between regions then.
Saturday 16th April 1960
Tottenham Hotspur 0-1 Manchester City.
Att: 49,767
Man City fan then?
Nope, been a Tottenham fan for 54 years!
@@stephencooper684 COYS
Thanks for the information Stephen, wonderful to see so many great faces from Spurs history.
Thanks for the info. Danny Blanchflower would have been playing midfield for Spurs i'm guessing if it was 1960
I love that - Terry Dyson trying to put a plug on a . . . vacuum cleaner.
This is the 1959 Cup Final at the end, that's Forest beating Luton isn't it!?
Now football is just a money making industry.
Has been since professionalism was legalised !
It always was, nothing's changed.
@@nigden1 Too true!
That little lad running to get a spot by the rails. Just like me and my mates at spurs from 1960 onwards as we were so small. Great film.
Its the April 16 1960 match.
I still remember when very young going to watch Brentford FC with my Grandad, must have been the very early 1960s. In the Fourth Division then but the place was packed. Mostly flat cap wearing and nothing more than animated clapping and a muted cheer or two.
"but what's the good if you can't see it" how true.
Southport FC, a great little club that the majority of supporters across the country would love to see back in the football league.
UP THE 'PORT !!
Oi , Paulios thanks for uploading I found it interesting watching the goings on in the 60s.
Could you imagine telling them they'll all have to socially distance!
The way most of them stunk, it was self enforcing !!!
Especially The Spurs players. Although they do Socially distance themselves from trophies these days.
Was the City goalkeeper Bert Trautmann?
Great stuff I look to see if I’m there
Love the cyclists getting their bikes back after leaving them in the neighbouring gardens for throppence!!!
Yes thruppence
And not a kneeler or virtue signalling car delivering the football in sight. Bliss
I used to mind cars around Anfield a shilling per car ... happy days🙂
State of that pitch though!
the legendary Bert Trautman in goal for City that day
Yellow shirts in north London!! Is it the first recorded case of City wearing yellow kit, as they did at Arsenal all those years later? Fascinating stuff!!
@@michaelroberts7374 Middlesex then !
I wonder if he’s related to the colonel trautman outta first blood haha
@@michaelroberts7374 Today would be a lottery of knowing what kit they'll be in!!
@@Roscoe.P.Coldchain Bert was an ex German army paratrooper
Looking below this was April 1960, The cup final clip was clearly Notts Forest v Luton in the previous season's final in 1959. (2-1 to Forest)
Spurs match was April 16 1960.
4:47 East - that is a fire waiting to happen.
All the grounds of changed so much. There are no charities left anymore, and to think that these first division footballers were stay at home dad's, who could repair the Hoover, and drove a Wolsely!
those were the days! - when heading the ball gave you dementia later in life
The football firms in these days smoked pipes and threw Sherry at each other
A TIME WHEN BRITAIN WAS BRITISH, NOWADAYS I DONT SEE IT LIKE THAT ANYMORE AND ITS SAD.
Oh look, a racist in TH-cam comments. That's unusual.
@@dunebasher1971 oh look, a snowflake. Not really unusual.....just pathetic.
Boo fucking hoo
Made me cry to be honest
Working class life. A forgotten people 🥺
Great vid. but would love to know the date! Thanks for posting.
Early this one. Look at Life ran '59 to '69. I would guess '60 filmed
The clip at the end showed Nottingham Forest beating Luton in the 1959 Cup Final.
@@NGT-eb2oy thanks!
Going to see a football match in a suite , how civilized is that . When England was England 🏴
It never was the England you inagine it to have been!
@@johnsaunders2109
What a ridiculous statement.
Ah, when England was England. Those were the days….
Wait a minute. England still IS England! Hooray!
@@supersonicsid5930 Not really! It was never the England you wide eyed sentimentalists imagine! And no one went in a sofa!!!
@@johnsaunders2109
Have you mixed up your meds again John .
Season 1958-59, I think. Seems to be Forest v Luton in the Cup Final.
😂🤣 I live on that Road in Cardiff, that was the Old Ninian Park, 🏴👌🏻✌🏻
Great stuff - what year I wonder, early 60's at the latest?
It's April 6th 1960
@@TheGiantKillers ah thanks 🙂
@@TheGiantKillers FA Cup final footage at the end was the 1959 final
@@TheGiantKillers Fat-fingers, its April 16 1960.
Memories for really old people
I recall going to White Hart Lane many times in the late 1950's.There was no hooliganism,obscene songs or chanting.I used to see a couple of their players queuing for a bus near where I live,for home matches.No players earned more than the average working class person in the crowd.Strangely the Spurs team had players with names like Smith,Brown,Baker,White,Jones and Allen.Imagine that today ?
The top players earned at least 3 times the average wage, and after 1961, it was even more! As for hooliganism, it was st its peak in the 60s and 70s!!! Rose tinted glasses!!
@@johnsaunders2109 I was referring to the 1950's, not the 60's and 70's, when hooliganism became a problem.It was a different world.Admission prices were about 2 shillings or 10p in today's money.I even recall they played in boots backs then,as the "Continental" style came in during the late 1950's. No pink boots,gloves and pony tails back then.
@@michaelscales5996 different age! It still had its problems! The match throwing scandal of 1963 ,for example, only 4 years from your ' golden age' !!!
@@johnsaunders2109 I hate meeting sad gits like you....
@@viennapalace well you haven't met me , so shut up !!
I liked the bloke in the crowd combing his eyebrows...
The days when a gate of 45k was not unusual
I'd say this was the 16th of April 1961 match? Crowd 40,278. I suspect the 70,000 figure was White Hart Lanes capacity at the time. Great film really gives you a sense of what going to games was like back then. none of your smooth green manicured pitches for those chaps!
True they played on the same type of surfaces as we used on the local park pitches
Brilliant the working mans game pure magic
Right at the end a reminder that the FA Cup was bigger than the league. And you know who held the record for the most FA cup wins before the premier league started? That's right. Spurs.
What has happened to the country ,so sad to see what its become
Meaning... what?
We dont wear hats like that anymore
@@Hometruths29 See how you get on with an all white XI 🤡🤡🤡
Magical
Look no politics in sight just a game of football ⚽️
Except the implied Toryism !!!
Yes it is brilliant.
The start music reminds of of the same music out of carry on camping
Terry Dyson fixing a vacuum cleaner. Anyone know what his son went on to do?
Great line
Very good! That'll be the son that made his work force redundant then moved operations to India, net worth at da time £400,000,000!
Arf Arf!!
3:43 -- and theres Michael Schumachers dad
He isnt related to Terry Dyson as James Dyson,of vacuum cleaner fame is 74 and Terry Dyson is 86. Terry Dyson is the Uncle of golfer Simon Dyson though.
The guy watching the match wearing a motorcycle helmet!
Some fella had a suitcase with him at the spurs match🤣🤣🤣
Back when spurs were champions!
Not this season they weren't. The exact date was April 6th 1960. Burnley were two weeks away from deposing Wolves as Champions. Spurs finished third.
@@TheGiantKillers oh im sorry! Slap my wrists, i was talking about the era, early 60s,please forgive me! 🙄🙄🙄🙄Ffs
I don't recognise that country anymore...and all it took was 70 years.
I can still recall seeing stars after heading that soggy, mud splattered, heavy leather ball, worse if you headed where the laces were
Players now suffering CTE from doing just that
Football match 5:03 was on April 16 1960
Who were Tottenham playing?
That was the 1959 fa cup final
Cliff Mitchelmore's voice is very distinctive - I remember him presenting a travel show on TV for what seemed like decades. I think it was called Wish You Were Here and another presenter was Judith Chalmers, who was famous for an orange complexion long before it was fashionable. Pre-internet, before dodgy billionaires buying the clubs, one in 50 people apparently going to watch a game live at the football ground - it feels like ancient history now!
I think it was BBC holiday shows.
Not a prima donna in sight!
How do you know?!? There were divers then , I can assure you!
Not a replica shirt in sight !!!! If i remember correctly, it was Adidas, in the 70s that promoted the sponsorship and selling of replica shirts.----- In the States.
It was Admiral actually
It was admiral
@@robertreape it may have been Adidas, in the states.
@@pressureworks in the UK it was admiral they wanted to cash in on the 1974 World Cup which was being broadcast in colour allowing the viewing audience to see what the players were wearing
All bollocks. I got my first replica shirt aged 6 and I was born in 1963. They were available for years before that. What changed in the mid 70s was the branding.
A different world all together
Would not show that now on the BBC as its not diversity enough to many
White, British, and proud of there country
Fellas talking about Scottish Football Mentioning Celtic and Showing Rangers Fans😂
That’s cos they were playing rangers
Forest winning the FA Cup in 1959! Not won it since unfortunately.
vs Luton Town wasn't it?
I think there won a few trophies by way of compensation, however !!
Can you imagine David Beckham changing a plug on his vacuum cleaner lol
he would have to have a brain to start with
Someone would have to take a picture of him doing it so he could advertise Hoover
No!
Hed have to ask Victoria how to do it !
Or even wiping his own arse!🙄
No date?
So sad what this country has become now .....
1960 Maximum wage for players about to be abolished and Blackpool were still in Div 1. The lifting of wage restrictions were the death of smaller clubs in the top flight like Blackpool and Charlton. Had to happen, the best a top player could earn then, adjusted for inflation, to 2021 was £25k, not a week but a year!
not to bad when you consider the average wage was around £15 a week.
How smart everyone was in the day, most men wearing blazers and even ties, makes me feel very underdressed when I go to watch the Leicester games now…
7:33 note the Rossi's ice cream van. From the family of Francis Rossi of Status Quo fame
Looking at the crowd. I think a high % of the men were waking caps. The footballers to me seem old even back then. The quality of the pitch was awful. Their pay was probably £5000 p.a. Now its £5000 per hour. Were the footballers then as fit as today's top footballers?
You said yourself - pitches could be mudbaths back then. So players had to be very, very fit indeed. What has changed is the "mental fitness" required to compete nowadays. At the top level, lapses in concentration are more readily punished now than they were then, perhaps.
They were as fit as they had to be, if it was possible to bring them forward with the same support todays lot get they would be just as good and in a lot of cases better. Charlton smoked most went for a few pints in fact the only time England won the WC was when all the clubs had British players and smoking and drinking was an accept thing not saying it is right just a fact.
“The rich and the poor, the tall and the short, young and old”
But no females……
Indeed they would be .
My wife was at Wolves every other week in 60's.
not one mobile phone or stone island jacket. Not even any Trim Trabb
This footage is so ancient. Probably the last time Spurs won the League. PML!
70,000 at WHL? Lovely to see my godfather and namesakes Danny Blanchflower...
This is what freedom looked like.
All the team in the bath together no way todays players would accept that and as for the football boots lol.
1.39 Terry Dyson fixes a hoover. Irony.
Okay - why were Man City playing in yellow? There's shouldn't have been a colour clash with Spurs' white shirts and City's light blue shirts.
Maybe because of their gutless ways.
City played in striped shirts at that point in their history. The sky blue colour was the thinner stripe - the thick stripe may have been a sort of claret. I forget now.
Couldn't film my lot they were in Europe somewhere winning something! Up the Blues 👍 KRO 😃
I first went to St Andrews to watch my beloved Birmingham City in 1967. Different world then. KRO.
In 1960?
Come on you Spurs!!!
C'mon Gunners!
Shut up , you north London bores !!!
The old leather football's
No taking the knee crap in those day's.
Lots of their own crap though!
@@Ineverreadreplies he's right ... I want to see Raheem Sterling talk include income inequality in his instragram soliloquies
There were dictionaries though 🤡🤡🤡
Proper case balls then too
When football was solid Working Class.....not an executive box insight.
Imagine running this before the movie Saturday (Night) Fever?
Simpler times
Spurs never got crowds of 70,000 very few did.!!!!
As an Arsenal fan, Spurs did get crowds over 70,000 in the fifties actually 71, 000 against man United in 1951
Bob Mortimer
When the players were ripped off!
1:31 BONK !!!
Times may change but the results are always the same....Tottenham Hotspur 0 - 1 Man City.....How very Spursy !