One thing I think you forgot to mention about vigil is not only is he invis to Lion scans, Drones and Hackes cams but also Iana's gemini can't see him when it's active
Yeah that's my favorite thing to do against an IANA I've killed like 2 ianas because i was using my gadget as vigil and they just walk past me hell once i even had a IANA clone walk into me and she was wondering what was happening until she realized that there was a vigil there
As a gold player hard stuck in silver, it baffles me how much people like Cav. I’m glad you explained how niche she is. Especially with other TH-camrs defending her as of lately the last few weeks to a month. It honestly annoys me so much when people waste a ban on her or auto lock her every round because 90% of the time, nothing comes of it, and that’s being generous
hey man just a quick suggestion to make ratings more accurate , you're giving both the primary gadget and the secondary gadget a rating out of 10 although primary gadget is much more important , IMO secondary gadget should be under "loadout" with the guns, so 10 points for loadout , 10 for primary gadget, and 10 for versatility
I feel like cav’s ability is less of the silent steps and more of the interrogation. Silent steps simply assists her with easy pistol kills so she can interrogate. And that interrogate sure as hell isn’t selfish.
Vigil’s k1A is an assault rifle like jeager. It’s damage drop off is not as bad as smgs but not as good as attacker ARs. It’s an SBR (Short Barrel Rifle)
With Cav, you could just hide from drones and only start roaming once the round starts. If the enemy team doesn’t know a cav is on the map, they may be less inclined to search for one.
Yeah but Im taking a good Oryx or a good Vigil over a good Cav any site tbh unless you down 3 ppl a coordinated team will just pick u off on interos and ur fuck if somebody gets a good pixel peak on u at range
Oryx shouldn’t be placed number 1 as you can only make the most of oryx’s gadget on certain maps. Playing chalet or club house really hurts oryx however with vigil you can always use his gadget to full affect on every map
@@bukashi_sensei9613not really there's a huge lack of hatches that he can climb and most of the hatches are either too important and get reinforced meaning oryx can't jump up them or are in places the attacker can take very quickly like construction
@ireallydontknow278 that's the thing when your team know your an oryx main all hatches are open and bro the hatches on club house are amazing it's literally one of my fav maps to play oryx
I’d say that the best of these 3 is very dependent on the rank/skill of a given lobby, the map/site you’re playing on, and what operators the attackers are using. For example, Oryx is amazing on certain maps but practically loses 1/2 of his utility on others. Caveira is only good in lower skill lobbies, as droning or mild attacker organization shuts her down. Vigil is good in higher skill lobbies, but not in lower ones because NOBODY DRONES PAST PREP PHASE. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, AND YOU HAVE 2 DRONES FOR A REASON. U S E T H E M .
it's actually vice versa,she need to face a bad team to be able to do what she is intended to do which is exists in almost every lobby of low rank player
Note in the new patches vigil can no longer hide from lion scans but can negate pings by activating mid scan (Note I’m not sure but that’s what I think I read)
With the new update being out, if you stand still during Deimos's deathMARK he wont be able to track you and if you run iron sights on the smg-12 it has some managable recoil. Even more of a solid option now i'd say
I remember when Vigil's gun was so busted it's one of the highest damage dealing gun in the game.. I think it was even the second highest damage for defenders..
The answer is now smoke, a soft roam with that man wins games, vibes on your flank, holding down a door to site or a room before it with the shotgun or smg-11, you’re gonna be hard to kill
Probably month tbh since his shield is the largest probably followed by blitz and fuze is probably the last since his shield is just a tad bit too small for his body like no cap you can shoot the sides of fuze even when he has the shield in front of his faze that's not an issue for both blitz and Monty even when months shield is unextended it still covers his entire body
I've found if the enemy team knows there's a cav they burn time trying to roam clear. Just Play normal if spotted but don't get pinned and they will hunt you instead of site
All of them can do something for the team. The point of roaming is to delay pushes and waste attacker time. Oryx is the best at flanking, Vigil at holding an area, and Cav at punishing bad play.
@@yashjoglekar7230 i agree.if done correctly. Too bad 99% of roamers die either way too early or they never retreat back to obj when they got a kill or shot some drones.
Tbh i feel like people are always making this droning aspect the main focus since trust me 90% of the time the attackers will do very hal shallow droning meaning they won't check under every table or corner you might be hiding in i mean hell I've had a couple of games where there were people droning the very same room i was in and they didn't see me hiding under a table and i was vigil and didn't even use my clock because it would give away that i was there
And just like beastmodplayer said in another comment solis isn't technically a roamer sure you can roam with her but the 3 showcased in this video were made for roaming only Solis isn't made for roaming but people still play her as a roamer
@@Sperm_whale_squid_killer tbh with the fact she can see case when being planted i feel like she was made to be a shallow roamer more than a deep roamer tbh
@@ireallydontknow278 usually most of the cases attackers won't plant at the last moment. So Solis being played as a anchor/shallow roamer is not worth. I mainly use her for more deep roam/lurking. Not only because u can get rid of all of they drones,but If attackers don't clear ur roam game than u can easily flank them as well later in the round.
I think by definition its oryx, he can vault hatches, avoiding all traps, claymores etc and make inf rotates on the go. But for best gameplay perspective, its prob caveria due to interrogations
Really solid video but I strongly have to disagree with your statement that barbed is better than prox. Barbed isn’t nearly as loud and the slowing isn’t that big imo. You can be so creative with the placement of the prox and catch attackers of guard. If you place it smart they have to change their crosshair placement drastically.
Yeah I was baffled by that statement. Not only is proxy WAY louder than barbwire but also it can be placed much more dynamically, is much scarier to deal with, is not telegraphed, has a larger AoE, gives you a notification when triggered and doesn't hinder you or your allies. Barbwire is only ever useful in combination with other gadgets like traps or Mira's gadget.
Well the slowness is actually quite bad sure not as bad as melusis but still and also fun fact barbed wire makes more sound if there's an attacker in it it makes more noise when the attackers walk trough it
Vigil got a buff so now the effect on cameras are gone but if he shoots or runs he gets a hitch effect where he is standing as well as when he is moving during lion scan or in grims bees
while I do think oryx’s dash is good it should be at best 6 out of 10 for the sole purpose that there’s no defense against drones, jackal, lion, etc compared to vigil or cav
@@alidaqlavi3142 where? They know where your at/moving if you get droned or jackal tracked so at least 2 people are hunting you down you don’t really have anywhere to go unless you have an amazing hatch spot which barely any maps have. Running to site defeats the purpose of him being a roamer
vigil is good op but since solis exist she overwhelmed vigil. I hope they buff vigil, maybe make his gadget similar like nokk (didnt turn off when shoot or doing action)
how we not talking about warden? he has two of the best primaries and really good secondaries he has a nitro cell and shield the two best util in the game and the only downside is you have to stand still for his gadget and he has a selfish gadget but also he has a 1.5 like what??!
2 of the best primaries ha that's funny he does not sure the m590 is super good but the mpx is not it has a below average fire rate for defence which is around 900 and it has super low damage really if you want a better gun really run vigil with extended on the k1a 40 damage per shot and sure the fire rate is kinda slow at least compared to the mpx but the damage should outweigh that 10 fold and the matter of the fact is there's way better operators that can do the same as warden but better
Probably not as she's now a 2 speed meaning she's way slower and her scorpion Evo got merged to shreds and it has way higher recoil now with less damage and less bullets
as someone that simply plays for fun i would say oryx its pretty fun to run and jump around like a monkey and kill these filthy monty players (yes i suck at the game and dont have any other way of dealing with them)
This video is completely one sided. You only looked at a few things objectively but compared gadgets with minimal effort. You probably got a few aces with Oryx and decided to make a video prioritizing him. The biggest draw back he has is that he doesn't work on every map. Both vigil and cav excel in that aspect. They aren't limited to a few maps. They can work well on every map depending on the player. From my perspective Vigil is the best one. Cause of weapons and secondary equipment. I mainly play Cav, but even I can see that he'll probably be the next operator I get.
There is a underrated strategy I like doing, Thunderbird and Oryx combo, its basically free rotates because thunderbird's konas provide infinite health.
Simple, its castle
Honestly, this kinda wisdom deserves a pin
Hell no castle are either brain dead don’t know where to put their castle barricades or goated
Their is no in between
Nah it’s recruit
Nah, it's Doc and Mira
One thing I think you forgot to mention about vigil is not only is he invis to Lion scans, Drones and Hackes cams but also Iana's gemini can't see him when it's active
does that mean if ur standing in a mute jammer iana gemini cant see u?
@@mellomoose_no
Yeah that's my favorite thing to do against an IANA I've killed like 2 ianas because i was using my gadget as vigil and they just walk past me hell once i even had a IANA clone walk into me and she was wondering what was happening until she realized that there was a vigil there
He can also walk through trim bees without being tracked
@@yeetmansupreme9721next patch vigil is harmed by grims bees and lion scan
Vigil is useless in my rank of copper where no one uses drones
Unlucky, Goodluck ranking up :)
@@kream_8127 much needed luck lol
Lucky you, everyone I fight in Copper is pretty good for some reason
As a gold player hard stuck in silver, it baffles me how much people like Cav. I’m glad you explained how niche she is. Especially with other TH-camrs defending her as of lately the last few weeks to a month. It honestly annoys me so much when people waste a ban on her or auto lock her every round because 90% of the time, nothing comes of it, and that’s being generous
Me and my friends are gold/silver and we never see cav
@@ruredeyed8949 I want your lobbies
@@jacobwhelan45 are you on pc cause I play on Xbox and that’s how mine are
I only really play her in Casual, really like her pistol
@@ruredeyed8949 no I’m Xbox as well
hey man just a quick suggestion to make ratings more accurate , you're giving both the primary gadget and the secondary gadget a rating out of 10 although primary gadget is much more important , IMO secondary gadget should be under "loadout" with the guns, so 10 points for loadout , 10 for primary gadget, and 10 for versatility
y2 - y5 doc puts all these "roamers" to shame
I feel like cav’s ability is less of the silent steps and more of the interrogation. Silent steps simply assists her with easy pistol kills so she can interrogate. And that interrogate sure as hell isn’t selfish.
Vigil’s k1A is an assault rifle like jeager. It’s damage drop off is not as bad as smgs but not as good as attacker ARs. It’s an SBR (Short Barrel Rifle)
With Cav, you could just hide from drones and only start roaming once the round starts. If the enemy team doesn’t know a cav is on the map, they may be less inclined to search for one.
Careful droning is must everytime, not just to search for cav
For me as a duoq player it is Cav. It is actually insane how even in high Plat some people still fall for Caveira.
I’m in the same category with you even now I catch aces with cav she’s so fast and hard to hit if played correctly
Yeah but Im taking a good Oryx or a good Vigil over a good Cav any site tbh unless you down 3 ppl a coordinated team will just pick u off on interos and ur fuck if somebody gets a good pixel peak on u at range
6:06 i hate that the c75 has slower recoil 🤕
Oryx shouldn’t be placed number 1 as you can only make the most of oryx’s gadget on certain maps. Playing chalet or club house really hurts oryx however with vigil you can always use his gadget to full affect on every map
Bro club house is amazing for oryx wym?😂😂
@@bukashi_sensei9613not really there's a huge lack of hatches that he can climb and most of the hatches are either too important and get reinforced meaning oryx can't jump up them or are in places the attacker can take very quickly like construction
@ireallydontknow278 that's the thing when your team know your an oryx main all hatches are open and bro the hatches on club house are amazing it's literally one of my fav maps to play oryx
I’d say that the best of these 3 is very dependent on the rank/skill of a given lobby, the map/site you’re playing on, and what operators the attackers are using. For example, Oryx is amazing on certain maps but practically loses 1/2 of his utility on others. Caveira is only good in lower skill lobbies, as droning or mild attacker organization shuts her down. Vigil is good in higher skill lobbies, but not in lower ones because NOBODY DRONES PAST PREP PHASE. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE, AND YOU HAVE 2 DRONES FOR A REASON. U S E T H E M .
Ubi did Vigil dirty with the new patch
This man touches me at night
Unless we're talking about maps with gigantic rooms like Bank, Vigil is just a meme in front of Solis
Theyre both defenders tho
Been waiting for this one
Sam3
Same
Tbh Vigils primary smg is so underrated it is crazy
I think Cav can be the a wayyyy stronger operator than what he leads in but you’ve gotta have the skill to be able to do it
it's actually vice versa,she need to face a bad team to be able to do what she is intended to do which is exists in almost every lobby of low rank player
Note in the new patches vigil can no longer hide from lion scans but can negate pings by activating mid scan
(Note I’m not sure but that’s what I think I read)
I love this series, maybe drone denial next?
Oryx most athletic
Forgot to mention how cav’s smg got huge horizontal recoil *overtime* so for the new peeps who doesn’t use the spas-12 watch out for that
Vigil can also hide from Ianas ability . Found that out the hard way
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Yeah I've killed like 2 ianas because i was hiding from them with my cloak with vigil which was a free kill for me
With the new update being out, if you stand still during Deimos's deathMARK he wont be able to track you and if you run iron sights on the smg-12 it has some managable recoil. Even more of a solid option now i'd say
Pulse is like a roamer/intel hybrid who does both extremely well
I remember when Vigil's gun was so busted it's one of the highest damage dealing gun in the game.. I think it was even the second highest damage for defenders..
Na the best roamers rn are warden and mozzie. Those players pissing me off lately
yall was shitting on cav the whole section thank you
I would say Solis is clapping them all
Yeah
The operator with legs is a good roamer.
Next one should be best intel/drone denial. Mozzie vs solis vs mute
The answer is now smoke, a soft roam with that man wins games, vibes on your flank, holding down a door to site or a room before it with the shotgun or smg-11, you’re gonna be hard to kill
Next you should do Fuze, Blitz or monty | who's the best shield operator
Probably month tbh since his shield is the largest probably followed by blitz and fuze is probably the last since his shield is just a tad bit too small for his body like no cap you can shoot the sides of fuze even when he has the shield in front of his faze that's not an issue for both blitz and Monty even when months shield is unextended it still covers his entire body
And I’ve been plat since phantom sight I love cav she’s so op if you don’t get spotted it’s so easy to use her
I've found if the enemy team knows there's a cav they burn time trying to roam clear. Just Play normal if spotted but don't get pinned and they will hunt you instead of site
You listed way too many positives with cavs gadget to justify a score as low as a 3/10
Only caveira can do something for the team. The others are selfish k/d operators
All of them can do something for the team. The point of roaming is to delay pushes and waste attacker time. Oryx is the best at flanking, Vigil at holding an area, and Cav at punishing bad play.
@@yashjoglekar7230vigil is amazing if used correctly. In 5he drone heavy meta not knowing where a vitil is is sary
@@yashjoglekar7230 i agree.if done correctly. Too bad 99% of roamers die either way too early or they never retreat back to obj when they got a kill or shot some drones.
@@SwissChez i would say his ability to "see" drones when nearby is way more powerful than his cloaking ability
All of them are useful plus oryx is good at getting rotates
You would be suprised but i love roam with smoke SMG. Agressive use of smoke can be great cover to rotate
First time seeing Oryx's passive. His hops are higher than any 6ft basketball player bruh
I’m emerald but I think cav is underrated. People hate on if you drone you’ll find cav. It can be like that for any other roamer to.
Tbh i feel like people are always making this droning aspect the main focus since trust me 90% of the time the attackers will do very hal shallow droning meaning they won't check under every table or corner you might be hiding in i mean hell I've had a couple of games where there were people droning the very same room i was in and they didn't see me hiding under a table and i was vigil and didn't even use my clock because it would give away that i was there
@@ireallydontknow278bros played too much seige
Solis was too strong to include in the video.
Well I already had her in a previous vs series. So I couldn't even have her in here if I wanted to
And just like beastmodplayer said in another comment solis isn't technically a roamer sure you can roam with her but the 3 showcased in this video were made for roaming only Solis isn't made for roaming but people still play her as a roamer
@@ireallydontknow278 Solis main job is to be played more of lurker/deep roamer than a anchor/shallow roamer.
@@Sperm_whale_squid_killer tbh with the fact she can see case when being planted i feel like she was made to be a shallow roamer more than a deep roamer tbh
@@ireallydontknow278 usually most of the cases attackers won't plant at the last moment. So Solis being played as a anchor/shallow roamer is not worth. I mainly use her for more deep roam/lurking. Not only because u can get rid of all of they drones,but If attackers don't clear ur roam game than u can easily flank them as well later in the round.
I miss oryx 1.5. I need that crutch again 😭
Vigil aged like fine wine after this mid season update i believe.
auryx being 2 armor and 2 speed making him loud as fuck
Cav is underrated she can just run up to you in complete silence and asswhoop you
I can play all of them, but my favourite is probably Oryx because of the hetchjump.
while watching this i dropped an ace with caveira on 40 health. im still runnin cav after this 💀
Give cav ability to hop on hatch like Oryx but silencely
I think by definition its oryx, he can vault hatches, avoiding all traps, claymores etc and make inf rotates on the go. But for best gameplay perspective, its prob caveria due to interrogations
droning doesnt matter on cav, you just move once spotted
I think cav has the best versatility out of the specific ops & oryx is right behind
Really solid video but I strongly have to disagree with your statement that barbed is better than prox. Barbed isn’t nearly as loud and the slowing isn’t that big imo. You can be so creative with the placement of the prox and catch attackers of guard. If you place it smart they have to change their crosshair placement drastically.
Yeah I was baffled by that statement. Not only is proxy WAY louder than barbwire but also it can be placed much more dynamically, is much scarier to deal with, is not telegraphed, has a larger AoE, gives you a notification when triggered and doesn't hinder you or your allies.
Barbwire is only ever useful in combination with other gadgets like traps or Mira's gadget.
Well the slowness is actually quite bad sure not as bad as melusis but still and also fun fact barbed wire makes more sound if there's an attacker in it it makes more noise when the attackers walk trough it
I don’t like how people compare operators to champ lobby’s like 90% of the player base is gold😂
The correct answer is Rook, no one suspects the roaming Rook.
Has an ability that benefits the entire team
Has a solid loadout
I feel cav is a victim of time, over time more options to deal with her became more available. Not counting her nerfs
Cav, has one of the best secondary gadgets in the game, 5/10 XD
My guy didn’t just say that oryx has better guns that Vigil
The t5 is better then k1a since t5 has 0 recoil you can put extended on it and since t5 has better firerate the 5 dmg difference isn't much
Why you think everyone ran oryx when he had the 1.5
firerate is king in siege
@@Lp-army1 I agree that the t5 is easier to use. I just get more out of the K1a + smg 12 combo.
@@legitplayin6977 I can agree with that you win
Vigil got a buff so now the effect on cameras are gone but if he shoots or runs he gets a hitch effect where he is standing as well as when he is moving during lion scan or in grims bees
while I do think oryx’s dash is good it should be at best 6 out of 10 for the sole purpose that there’s no defense against drones, jackal, lion, etc compared to vigil or cav
Jackal? Drone? Bro just runaway. Lol
@@alidaqlavi3142 where? They know where your at/moving if you get droned or jackal tracked so at least 2 people are hunting you down you don’t really have anywhere to go unless you have an amazing hatch spot which barely any maps have. Running to site defeats the purpose of him being a roamer
good vid
The best Roamer is Tachanka
People hate on you picking Cav until they get wall hacks during the round. Cav is my personal favorite and no one can change my opinion lol
Best r6 TH-camr
Vigil would be broken if submachine gun got the acog
It’s obviously tachanka
I single handedly take down teams as cav in ranked… dont sleep on herr
You forgot that oryx can deal with shields
vigil is good op but since solis exist she overwhelmed vigil. I hope they buff vigil, maybe make his gadget similar like nokk (didnt turn off when shoot or doing action)
or maybe when his teammate check camera he doesnt go invisible to the teammate vision i guess
it was leaked that they’ll rework his gadget so it doesn’t turn off during shooting
@@professiggitwaysas a vigil main…source?
Question: How do you have it so teammates are icons through walls instead of outlines? Answer pls
It’s an option in settings
The bosg is the most op gun in the game ask any champ,its a meme pick because its way to op
It’s tachanka
It's obviously rook. You clearly didn't dare include him as it would be simply unfair because he would score a 60/40
If he doesn’t say vigil I am not watching his videos anymore
how we not talking about warden?
he has two of the best primaries and really good secondaries he has a nitro cell and shield the two best util in the game and the only downside is you have to stand still for his gadget and he has a selfish gadget but also he has a 1.5 like what??!
2 of the best primaries ha that's funny he does not sure the m590 is super good but the mpx is not it has a below average fire rate for defence which is around 900 and it has super low damage really if you want a better gun really run vigil with extended on the k1a 40 damage per shot and sure the fire rate is kinda slow at least compared to the mpx but the damage should outweigh that 10 fold and the matter of the fact is there's way better operators that can do the same as warden but better
Do yall consider Ela a roamer? Excuse my ignorance, I haven't played since 2016. I use her to roam often.
Probably not as she's now a 2 speed meaning she's way slower and her scorpion Evo got merged to shreds and it has way higher recoil now with less damage and less bullets
@@ireallydontknow278 I don't have great recoil control but I think the Evo is very easy to handle. But the rest makes sense
@@Sarnt_T well if you say you haven't played since 2016 the game has changed a shit ton over time
@@ireallydontknow278 I mean I'm playing consistently now for the past 2 months
@@Sarnt_T so you just straight up lied ok then
Yeah opinion discarded. Didnt mention her pistol knocks on headshots making interogations easier
Best roamers are the enemies on T hunt
Vigil gets best roamer because his elite animation is so awesome
iterro being countered by leaving the game just makes cav even worse
Alright bro, you picked Oryx, I know you're trolling.
You forgot solid
Simple, its warden
thats what im saying
Pulse crying in the corner:
It’s kinda sad how Cav’s whole purpose is to be a roamer but even then she’s still one of the worst at that
Did they buff bosg? Its very strong how come you say its a joke
Me roaming and slapping cheeks with Kapkan 🤣🤣
Vigil isn't roamer , it Sniper
I hate anyone who roams… I hate myself
as someone that simply plays for fun i would say oryx its pretty fun to run and jump around like a monkey and kill these filthy monty players (yes i suck at the game and dont have any other way of dealing with them)
Where tf is solis? Solis is objectively the best dedicated roamer.
is cavs suppresor still bugged?
what about kapkan ant alibi
This video is completely one sided. You only looked at a few things objectively but compared gadgets with minimal effort.
You probably got a few aces with Oryx and decided to make a video prioritizing him. The biggest draw back he has is that he doesn't work on every map.
Both vigil and cav excel in that aspect. They aren't limited to a few maps. They can work well on every map depending on the player.
From my perspective Vigil is the best one. Cause of weapons and secondary equipment. I mainly play Cav, but even I can see that he'll probably be the next operator I get.
false cav is the best because of her abs
Yo where is solis
What about mozzie?
why do u say arguably he literally is the best roam clearer
Solis. It's a complete sentence.
Why only these 3 roamers?? Make comparison among all the roamers
these are the only roamers
@@Xoltaros What about Solis, Lesion,Pulse etc
@@NearPlatypus
they can be used for roaming but their gadgets aren’t dedicated to roaming
Solis and pulse are plant deniers.
Lesion is a trap operator
There is a underrated strategy I like doing, Thunderbird and Oryx combo, its basically free rotates because thunderbird's konas provide infinite health.