Remember when Jager wasn't just the best op at denying nades but the best op in the game? I think he has to be the most nerfed operator taking big hits to literally everything in his kit except his pistol, and yet he is still this good just because at its core his gadget provides something that you always want
Ikr right, one point in time his carbine was easily the best weapon on defense and could even outgun some attackers, having him in second made me feel kinda insulted as an old jaeger main but then again this game has drastically changed since Years 1 & 2
They shouldn't be able to be shot from the side. Their whole point was for melee or utility to get rid of them. At least they should be renamed if kept the way they are.
Nades and flashes still work with wamai and obviously with jäger you can set them up way faster and they RECHARGE unlike wamais which take forever and you only get like 6 of jäger is simply better pick wamai is underpicked for a good reason
Yeah aruni is the kind of op that just becomes more useful when paired with others. Her ability to stop 1 gadget for all 3 laser gates is kinda on the same line as Jäeger. It doesn’t have the same radius, only limited to walls, doors, and hatches but it also has the physical damage aspect. Applying 30 damage to a player. This combined with a castle and a kapkan can make a door to an objective one of the most painful obstacles to deal with. Both utility and health wise. Her gadget can also be reset so it does have infinite charges as well it is the indestructible.
Personally I prefer Prox Alarms over Barbed Wire. It’s easier to capitalize on the trigger of the alarms than it is on barbed wire because if they are hidden well, attackers have to look for them to deactivate them
My argument based on the title is easy (since it's asking whose the best at denying grenades): Jäger. He is the only operator that can safely deny a grenade totally in 3 separate areas with the most versatile placement. With enough time between grenades thrown as well, Jäger can TECHNICALLY deny an infinite number of grenades, unlike Wamai, and is more flexible with placement over Aruni. HOWEVER, overall-operator wise, I'd say personally Wamai. His gadget is as flexible as Jäger's, and while it doesn't delete the projectile, it does pull it away from what you're trying to protect. He also has better guns than Jäger (and to a small degree I'd argue Aruni), and he still brings enough utility to be worth it in most situations.
1:31 umm, what do you mean they don't mesh well? People will use utility to blow up or remove barb wire and bullet proof cams. Am I just missing something?
Original design over Jaeger was top tier, since each ADS had 2 charges so total of 6. And if you were smart with the timing of how to reset it before it dies out, you technically could of have 1 incl Jaeger Tricking would equal 4 so upto 12+ uses until inactive. However thanks to the rework of him, even aside of the gun he’s a shell of himself. He’s able to place his gadget in a lot of places if you position him right funny enough. Qamai is a character that can do what Jaeger can but slightly better and on the fly. Aruni is slightly underrated since her gadget stops whatever projectiles including operator abilities and drones. Her counter is pretty much everything however she wastes Utility and also some players just take 1 for the team incl Monty. Her team still benefits when she dies since they are able to reset but that’s like 15-25sec I can’t remember. She can counter a lot however is countered by a lot as well. Oh, and on top of that even when you deactivate the gadget, it has like 2-3sec where it’s still somewhat active and can even do more damage if not thought of properly
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You missed the fact that wamai discs need to charge up meanimg if you die early youve provided arguably less than jager. Plus the ads recharges after ten seconds if im not mistaken which remains after death
wamai is receiving a 1.5 scope on his mp5, this will bring him up further making him even better than jaeger but yes as you've said, if your a bad player and die in the first 20-30 seconds of the round then yes jaeger would be better for the team but if you can stay up for at least a minute then wamai stays on top.
I would say jäger is SLIGHTLY better than wamai, because misusing him can a will get your teammates killed, jäger ability is 100% set and forget, so you can run him as u see fit, aruni is kinda like a duck, and by that I mean she does everything but she isn’t really good at anything, if u want entry denial, run kapkan, if u want to frag out alibi is better, protecting site, azami and kaid/bandit will be better. But she is the only op in the game that can somewhat cover every other op and still be decent
Wamai can be better than Jager, but i still wouldn't buy it. It will probably be one of the last operators that i will buy, because it's only slightly different than the 1k Jager.
@@TheIneedneam2_ as in it catches them and still makes them useable he would be a10/10 if it surrounded the object in a metal case to capture the flashbang and explosive and not make it blow up the other gadgets around the door
Jagar is by far the best nade denial operator. Wamai is only useful when you have a less coordinated enemy and should only be played as a situational pick. (Clubhouse rafters to block capitao bolts) And I don’t even know why arunis here 🤷♂️
i think aruni can be great for solo q. she has great guns, can make her own rotates and head holes, and has a cam or barb wire. her ability is great for solo because of the sound qs you get and you can know a general area of entry
yeah because of his 1.5 and not bcs of his gadget which is just boring ngl like jager is way superior to wamai he has to throw disks and if he dies into 1 minute then you lose lot of value
Yeh I love alarms, unless you're near the barbed wire you ain't hearing it whereas alarms, most everyone hears those, plus if you hide them well they'll just keep going off. I do like me some wire tho don't get me wrong, if I had to pick...I think I'd go alarms actually
Remember when Jager wasn't just the best op at denying nades but the best op in the game? I think he has to be the most nerfed operator taking big hits to literally everything in his kit except his pistol, and yet he is still this good just because at its core his gadget provides something that you always want
Blackbeard is definitely the most nerf op in the game but on defense jager does have a strong case
BB is the most Nerf op without a doubt.
Ikr right, one point in time his carbine was easily the best weapon on defense and could even outgun some attackers, having him in second made me feel kinda insulted as an old jaeger main but then again this game has drastically changed since Years 1 & 2
Yeah, Jager is at least still a solid pick, BB is quite literally the worst op right now
@Spunky7819Hove-bi4eg almost 1yr latter he still is
Bulletproof cameras deserve more love man
Fr bro- soo much intel and like they have to waste util or get close enough and be vulnerable
110% agreed
I feel they’re kinda easy to break but other than that they can provide decent intel
They shouldn't be able to be shot from the side. Their whole point was for melee or utility to get rid of them. At least they should be renamed if kept the way they are.
@@robnlarie that actually sounds viable
One thing I noticed, gridlocks trax are also not affected by ads, only mag-nets, just like capitao
Yes this true. It doesn't come into affect much but it when it does it can be really useful for Wamai.
Ace charges as well, and that can be really strong in some sites
Something cool that was recently discovered is that the magnet can rid off aces gadget
I do agree that wamai is very strong because the magnets are throwable and could be set up if you are behind cover
Nades and flashes still work with wamai and obviously with jäger you can set them up way faster and they RECHARGE unlike wamais which take forever and you only get like 6 of jäger is simply better pick wamai is underpicked for a good reason
Yeah aruni is the kind of op that just becomes more useful when paired with others.
Her ability to stop 1 gadget for all 3 laser gates is kinda on the same line as Jäeger.
It doesn’t have the same radius, only limited to walls, doors, and hatches but it also has the physical damage aspect.
Applying 30 damage to a player.
This combined with a castle and a kapkan can make a door to an objective one of the most painful obstacles to deal with.
Both utility and health wise.
Her gadget can also be reset so it does have infinite charges as well it is the indestructible.
Up here in 2024...no barbed wire..just observation blockers..
Personally I prefer Prox Alarms over Barbed Wire. It’s easier to capitalize on the trigger of the alarms than it is on barbed wire because if they are hidden well, attackers have to look for them to deactivate them
Prox alarms are pretty great if you know how to use them
@@Buckent i mean even if you dont know how to use/hide them well. just placing them above doorways could help you
I never understood why people rate barbed wire so high
@@Cittadini07 makes noise , slows enemy, requires wasting utility to break or getting close and in a bad spot to break it with melee
Whoever the enemy team plays seems to always be the best operator.
My argument based on the title is easy (since it's asking whose the best at denying grenades): Jäger.
He is the only operator that can safely deny a grenade totally in 3 separate areas with the most versatile placement. With enough time between grenades thrown as well, Jäger can TECHNICALLY deny an infinite number of grenades, unlike Wamai, and is more flexible with placement over Aruni.
HOWEVER, overall-operator wise, I'd say personally Wamai. His gadget is as flexible as Jäger's, and while it doesn't delete the projectile, it does pull it away from what you're trying to protect. He also has better guns than Jäger (and to a small degree I'd argue Aruni), and he still brings enough utility to be worth it in most situations.
1:31 umm, what do you mean they don't mesh well? People will use utility to blow up or remove barb wire and bullet proof cams. Am I just missing something?
Hey man great video!
Thanks bro :)
Concept: a new op that bounces throwable objects towards the attackers
This is what i was hoping for Wamai.
Works like wamai to pull it in and functions like thunderbird to shoot it back
Original design over Jaeger was top tier, since each ADS had 2 charges so total of 6. And if you were smart with the timing of how to reset it before it dies out, you technically could of have 1 incl Jaeger Tricking would equal 4 so upto 12+ uses until inactive. However thanks to the rework of him, even aside of the gun he’s a shell of himself. He’s able to place his gadget in a lot of places if you position him right funny enough.
Qamai is a character that can do what Jaeger can but slightly better and on the fly. Aruni is slightly underrated since her gadget stops whatever projectiles including operator abilities and drones. Her counter is pretty much everything however she wastes Utility and also some players just take 1 for the team incl Monty. Her team still benefits when she dies since they are able to reset but that’s like 15-25sec I can’t remember. She can counter a lot however is countered by a lot as well. Oh, and on top of that even when you deactivate the gadget, it has like 2-3sec where it’s still somewhat active and can even do more damage if not thought of properly
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@@Ryeandr if you were able to brainrot watching the video that’s 8min30sec, I think you’re TikTok brain is cooked if you can’t dedicate 2 mins (not even) to read. So unless you’re just scrolling through comments bc you have no life while I do and can make a structured sentence, your point literally is invalid have a nice day :)
Wamai's gadget sucks against smoke grenades. Attackers smoke doorway for a plant. Wamai's gadget pulls it to the side. Door is still smoked anyway.
Don't forget about jager's op shotgun
Wamai’s MP5K has the 1.5x scope so I’ve been made maining him
You missed the fact that wamai discs need to charge up meanimg if you die early youve provided arguably less than jager. Plus the ads recharges after ten seconds if im not mistaken which remains after death
wamai is receiving a 1.5 scope on his mp5, this will bring him up further making him even better than jaeger but yes as you've said, if your a bad player and die in the first 20-30 seconds of the round then yes jaeger would be better for the team but if you can stay up for at least a minute then wamai stays on top.
Yes Aruni is anti-nades but I use her more for anti entry against Ace and Thermite
I would say jäger is SLIGHTLY better than wamai, because misusing him can a will get your teammates killed, jäger ability is 100% set and forget, so you can run him as u see fit, aruni is kinda like a duck, and by that I mean she does everything but she isn’t really good at anything, if u want entry denial, run kapkan, if u want to frag out alibi is better, protecting site, azami and kaid/bandit will be better. But she is the only op in the game that can somewhat cover every other op and still be decent
They should give jager a secondary shotgun a 4th ads and ill be happy
Honestly Aruni is much more useful as entry denial than nade denial. If there are hatches above im using Aruni.
Wamai can be better than Jager, but i still wouldn't buy it. It will probably be one of the last operators that i will buy, because it's only slightly different than the 1k Jager.
wamais gadget shouldnt be a 10/10 considering how it can capture a ying or other operator gadgets
It shouldnt be a 10 cus it can capture yings ????
@@TheIneedneam2_ as in it catches them and still makes them useable he would be a10/10 if it surrounded the object in a metal case to capture the flashbang and explosive and not make it blow up the other gadgets around the door
Nah man Warden is the best made denial
how
@@vlonvx see through stun and smoke, has a c4, has a decent gun etc..
@@Hello-kb8qm he’s not a made denial 💀 oh can he survive a gerbare right in front of him? no
Aruni + wami + jaeger
jager is waaaay better, a coordinated team can stomp wamai, this is a video on nade DENIAL after all.
Face the fact bro, wamai is better.
exactly nade denial wise jager is better
@@xVenxs any pro league would say jager is better dawg jager will forever be the face of siege
Wamai is better just check pro league pickrates of jager and wamai,wamai has higher pickerate than jager btw.
aruni vs thorn who is stronger you think ?
Imagine losing your arm in an accident and needing a prosthetic arm just for someone to say you have a robot arm lmao
Jagar is by far the best nade denial operator. Wamai is only useful when you have a less coordinated enemy and should only be played as a situational pick. (Clubhouse rafters to block capitao bolts)
And I don’t even know why arunis here 🤷♂️
i think aruni can be great for solo q. she has great guns, can make her own rotates and head holes, and has a cam or barb wire. her ability is great for solo because of the sound qs you get and you can know a general area of entry
@@deadbyfroze4164 she does NOT have great guns😂
Wamai is better just look at pro league pickrates.
What screen size is he playing? It's a 3:4? Or what?
Wamai 1.5 makes him the best in the game rn
yeah because of his 1.5 and not bcs of his gadget which is just boring ngl
like jager is way superior to wamai he has to throw disks and if he dies into 1 minute then you lose lot of value
Your forgetting warden he technically counters smokes and flashes
Great comparison but I do think stunk deserves a Higher versatility score
Stunk 😭
Aruni right?
Bro has jager black ice ☠️☠️☠️☠️
Why do you think alarm is bad?
Because it only gives audio while barbed wire gives you an audio warning and slows the attacker
@@BMP
Usualy i don't the barbed wire because of him making noise when a defender crosses It, i've Lost so many gun fights because of this
@@BMP
And the noise hides my steps Very often
Yeh I love alarms, unless you're near the barbed wire you ain't hearing it whereas alarms, most everyone hears those, plus if you hide them well they'll just keep going off.
I do like me some wire tho don't get me wrong, if I had to pick...I think I'd go alarms actually
Me, I'm the best operator.
I like Jager way more than Wamai
Y9 man give jager his acog back especially after the nerf to wamai pls ubi listen to ur players bot just the pros
I think yeager is better but it is just my opinion
Proxim alarms are amazing information wtf are u talking about
Wamai is just awesome.
He's one of my favorite ops rn
It's Aruni, by far
yuh
L picks tbh
Jäger is better than wamaii
yeah wamaii is black
Wamai is better just check pro league pickrates of jager and wamai,wamai has higher pickerate than jager btw.
@@S1mple-z5i he's black
1. Wamai,2.jager,3.aruni
Gadget 10/10 for Wamai??? Bro that is BS
it is actually pretty good tbh you can place it anywhere while jaeger gadget is limited