I didn't like the looks of the Grand Wagoneer until my boss bought his 2024 Series 3 with the Palermo interior (Camel) gorgeous and super high-end. He had a 2022 Cadillac Escalade, but that Cadillac does not compare to the luxury of his Wagoneer.
Anybody here who says: "$140,000 for a Jeep! Wadda you nuts?" simply can't afford a fantastic vehicle like the Grand Wagoneer and probably never will. They also can't afford a Dassault Falcon 6X either. But for those of us who can, not waiting in long airport lines and having to deal with the TSA, flight delays, cancellations, arbitrary departure times and unruly, combative, inebriated fellow passengers, it's well worth the money for the convenience. Believe me, for the money, the Jeep Grand Wagoneer is well worth it to be surrounded by soft, comfortable, heated and cooled leather, a quiet cabin and amenities out the ying yang, especially on long trips. Not buying (if you can afford it) a Jeep Grand Wagoneer because "it's a Jeep," is like not accepting the gift of a Bombardier Challenger Global 6000 because it's built by the same company that makes snowmobiles. "$40 million for a snowmobile! Wadda you, nuts?"
Good grief this price is truly absurd, which is why Wagoneers aren't selling. You can go to any Jeep dealer in the US and find Wagoneers that have been sitting for over a year. I say it's way past time for some sanity to return to vehicle pricing, so I'm thrilled that stupidly overpriced vehicles like this aren't selling.
Probably super reliable because it never leaves the showroom. Here in the States, these have been sitting in dealer lots. Some for two years - new 2022 model year units.
@@Ploto-c2k selling to who? Government G-Men because their blacked out Tahoes and Caddies have gotten too old? And they make only 4,000 or so Navigators per year so pretty much everything outsells a Navigator.
2023 sales figures: Lincoln Navigator 17,549 Jeep Grand Wagoneer 9,946 BTW. Thanks whoever is deleting my comment with sales statistics while allow someone in this thread to leave his comment accusing the OP with not not telling the truth.
I don't even know why they build these things, I watch the guys on caredge and last week they were talking about a brand new 2022 Grand Wagoneer 110,000 us with a 38,000 discount on it and they still can't sell it.
Well if you watched the whole video, you might want to hear the reasoning from Steve as they're probably not targeting sales on this vehicle, but try to make it more luxurious than the other competitors.
I agree with the comment made on the horrific appearance of the exterior of that vehicle. The interior designer should be promoted, and the parties responsible for the exterior should be fired. You almost wonder if the former should be responsible for the exterior as well since they did such a great job with the inside. I love the powertrain if this is going to be a 39 month lease and the interior design and choice of materials is class-leading. The only way I could stomach this vehicle is to have the blacked out edition with tints. As you commented, nobody is going to be purchasing this vehicle so switching to the forced induction high output inline 6 was a no-brainer. If you could drop this interior into an Escalade, you would have a home run.
With all the different people reviewing vehicles these days, I was pleasantly surprised how much I enjoyed this comprehensive report on the Jeep GW... I was glad you focused on the vehicle, the different angles as well as the views of the interior as you were discussing each one. Many of the other reviewers love to make sure they are always on camera, sometimes more than the vehicle... You and your dad were excellent, thorough and prepared.... Brilliant job to both of you, the camera guy and all involved... I just liked & subscribed my man...!
I have the Wagoneer. Most beautiful SUV on the road. Driving from coast to coast nothing else feels better. Feels very secured and safe. Takes command on the road, even 18 wheelers take notice. Can turn into a mobile home.
I agree cornbread. I have had mine since last July. only issues was a couple software glitches. not 1 issue with drivability. these have been resolved and I could see myself driving no other vehicle. Grand, series III. perfection.
@@jaywhitehead1171 Has the space to add a mattress, and install a 30 inch television in the rear side panel, add a microwave oven, add some 305 wide all season performance tires, take timeout at a nearest Walmart to wash and clean, pull along a small trailer, see the sites on the open and back roads. America’s not done yet. 🙂
Whoever decides the background music for these videos has GREAT music taste! (Assuming Howard, lol). One reason I love Truck King, besides the professionalism, content quality, and execution. I'm looking forward to seeing what's in store for 2024! Keep up the good work!
I’ll wait till it’s 10 years or so old and buy it for way cheaper. Grabbed a 11 grand Cherokee overland with the hemi last year for $16k still runs well.
To me luxury is not just about the product but about sales and service experience of brand. I shudder taking ,y vehicle to a Jeep dealer for service for $140,000 vehicle. Good luck with that
Having owned 2 brand new Chrysler products over the years I can say I would never even look at one of these even if I had the money. It’s a shame because I like Chrysler styling but being fooled twice, it won’t happen a third.
How is the starting and braking on this vehicle. I owned a lincoln navigator, and sometimes the tires would spin on starting and on braking the car would bounce around...does that happen on this car? I've been looking at it for awhile and want an honest opinion. You do very well on your videos, but could you always include how it feels and what it does when you start driving and how it reacts when braking? That will be the icing on the cake. Thanks for your thorough reviews and rounding things out with your dad involved...
Being that Jeep invented the luxury SUV, I'm not sure why you'd be that surprised that it costs that much...over the years Jeep have always had options available in the Corvette and Cadillac price range and up.
People for get the GW goes way back. Long before Cadillac Escalade came along. Long before. The suburban is older, but its a workhorse. Not a luxury vehicle, and certainly not as off-road capable.
You might be onto something! You should suggest this idea to the San Francisco and Portland Oregon city councils as a solution for the - homeless /cross that/- unhoused people’s housing. Everyone gets a Jeep Wagoneer to live in. Cheaper than what they do now and it helps auto sector.
escalade vs G wagoneer vs navigator : exterior : escalade interior : GW , navigator If Lincoln and jeep change the exterior design will be awesome. Also V8 sound on the escalade is a beast.
I own this vehicle and have to admit this is one badass vehicle, plenty of passing power very quite ride ....smooth on the road ....way better thank Chevy, gmc and cadillac
A short lease is the only way these things will get off the lot, as no one wants to deal with the reliability issues that this will inevitably have. Plus the depreciation is going to be insane. I doubt many of the features will be working in 10 years on this Jeep. Hard pass even with markdown, if I had this money there's no reason to not get an Escalade or Navigator even. As an owner of a current gen Expedition, I would get the Cadillac.
140k for a jeep? I don't see the difference between Jeep and (say) Yukon/Cadillac or the Ford thing. It's all the same and I wouldn't feel less secure spending that money on a Jeep. My Grand Cherokee was an excellent vehicle in every way, already way back in 2011. The issue isn't that "it's a jeep", the issue is that its way too much money for any vehicle. And I worry about the future of Jeep because they can't survive on low sales numbers no matter how good this thing is. The GC and Wrangler and Ram 1500 can't carry all of FCA, they're going to tank quickly unless they get some good high volume stuff to market that people can actually afford.
Not sure how many 110v outlets it has but i think it should have one in the cargo area. too much piano black in the interior. 10k sales units wont keep this suv alive. esp when gmc has over 275k in total sales with all their full size suv brands.
Also, the 2 engines are not physically identical. There is more than just a software tune, I don't remember off the top of my head but there are definitely physical differences too.
Imagine spending that kind of money to have it rust out within 10 years. Not sure if it was the video but sounded like the interior rattled a bit on those rough roads, I assume it was just how the video captured the sounds?
I love mine. didn't buy it with the intention of owning it for 10 years. Though, Stellantis/Chrysler seem to have a good hold on their rust issues like the older rams had. plus, it won't rust faster than a Toyota.
Undoubtedly, coming to a rental fleet near you! Stellantis vehicles have the worst used resale value, worst reliability, in the market why anybody would buy this over a Tahoe, suburban, Cadillac Escalade, GMC or Ford expedition is beyond me.
did you say stellantis vehicles have the worst resale value? have you priced a used dodge challenger, they cost a fortune even used? or used jeep wrangler or grand cherokee, fortune even used? or have you priced a used land rover or mercedes...these two so called luxury brands are worthless after 15 years? i dont think you know what you`re talking about
6:40 the red rear indicator lights are a fail and need to be illegal. Come on, Jeep, how is it 2024 and you don't know all indicator lights, front, side and rear are amber? Utterly mind boggling.
Are you implying Jeep can't build a luxury car? You do realize that Lexus is just gussied up Toyota. The true mistake these brand make when they mover up is the service department is the same place
Id rather have a Tahoe or suburban high country and not spent 100k the jeep looks great and is great but i want to see how it does with age and reliability. We dont know if its going to be reliable or have many issues in 6month to 2 years of owner ship. I always like to wait to see how new models or engines do for a few years. Hopefully the jeep engine turns out to be good and reliable . I always loved cheerokes from 97 to 02 and older grand wagoneers and thr grand cheerokes.
Inline engines are the best! More power, less vibration, less noise and better fuel economy versus V engines! I agree $140,000 is too much for any SUV but when you compare it too Cadillac it trials badly in prestige! Not as much with Lincoln but if quality holds up it will take sales from Lincoln, Lexus and maybe Range and land rover due to terrible Quality from Rover group!
Big problem with 3rd rows is not fitting back there it is getting in and out. Getting out in particular always has the risk of a face plant and it is noisier back there as one is essentially sitting in the trunk.
Great video guys. Howard made an excellent point, almost no one keeps vehicles long term anymore. Gone are the days where people purchase a vehicle and drive it for 20 years or more. The timeline people keep vehicles for has been dwindling for a longtime. I’ve heard people literally say “ I need a new car, I’m bored of this one “. They drive it for a couple years or so, and get a new one. As long as they don’t have negative equity, That’s another conversation 😂
I'm one of those who get bored easily. I just bought a Grand Wagoneer L Series III. Traded my 2022 BMW X7 because the GW was so much nicer and the X7 was just too small. This is my 40th vehicle, all purchased, none leased. I am retired.
its not a JEEP, though! its a Grand Wagoneer. remember that. remember they made the wagoneer its own category, and not considered a jeep. remember wagoneer was the first luxury suv. remember it was the first to have full time 4x4. it was a forerunner before the rest.
People did the same thing when the Lexus was called the Toyota Lexus...people were frazzled becsuse they said it was still a Toyota...down to today, the Lexus is awesome!
Ya out the door price is 180 dollars in 🇨🇦 that includes delivery fees,dealership fees, 10 percent luxury tax and also HST (harmonized sale tax) up to 15% depending on which province you live in 😮
It’s really funny how everyone is talking about how 140k is too much for a gw but number 1. This vehicle is only 106k American and number 2. This has a better interior and reliability than an Escalade yet people are complaining even though it’s cheaper.
Yes i always have said that the back is weird looking. Im glad someone said it. But idk who would buy it. Vehicles should never cost that much money. Idk what these car companies are thinking.
The designers failed miserably on the exterior design of this vehicle….No matter how good the interior looks, the exterior past the front doors backwards makes you want to loose your stomach contents 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮. Also, there are reports on the interior quality for longevity is having some issues as well on the ones that are a few years old. Bottom line, those who can truly afford these will lease them for 24 to 36 months max. That way it stays under a factory warranty. And if after a few months they really don’t like it and can’t stomach the look of the outside anymore, they dump it and move into something else. …..
Dude it’s 510 hp and 500 gt torque . Also it’s not same engine as entry level hurricane. These a list as long as both arms that parts are vastly different . Typical TH-cam videos where people don’t research their product , get educated , upon doing a video for public .
Exterior styling are here and there but most importantly is the engine and transmission reliable? Normally, Jeep do not have great reliability record. If they are reliable, can Jeep provide 10 year unlimited mileage warranty on engine and transmission? At 140K!!! It should at least come with good warranty.
you should also point out that a similarly price land rover or mercedes which costs the same, are less reliable and have worse resale values. in 10 years you can buy a used mercedes or range rover for $3,000. i can tell you that in 10 years the wagoneer will cost more than $3,000
It's certainly expensive though I cant comment on much other than I think it was missed opportunity for Jeep not to offer an offroad trim of this model lineup. They've known now for years how the offroad and overlanding market was in full swing, but then brought out this low slung wagon form factor. I am not interested in that type of vehicle, but I know having one on offer would have helped increase popularity and sales for their intended market.
Not sure about the 2024 models, but for 2023 you can get a Wagoneer with the Advanced All-terrain Group. It has 18” all-terrain tires, two-speed transfer case, skid plates, electronic rear diff, and air suspension to increase ground clearance, etc.
@@davidhypes5228 Oh interesting, I had no idea there was such a package available. I dont see any package like that for the '24s but maybe some of the features or components were added in with other packages or made standard? Wonder why that wasnt more prominent in their marketing, I feel like Tahoe Z71 and Expedition Wilderness kind of play into a lot of people's desire for an offroady SUV and I always thought the Wagoneer would benefit from that approach.
Too much chrome and I am not a fan of twin turbos. I am way past having kids but the fam cam looks like a good idea. My brother and I knew to separate when Dad started scooting to the middle of the front seat and getting his arm over the seat back. We quickly learned there was no way he could reach to the back seat corners of a 49 Buick Roadmaster.
*a $140K Luxury SUV that will break down because Cheap Jeep Quality never changes no matter how nice they make the interior and exterior look in the showroom, save your money and buy a Lexus SUV*
As they said in the video very few will pay $140k for this. This will be leased for 3 years in which time even a jeep won’t have any issues. The fact this outsells the Lexus LX by a huge margin proves this point. Anyone who can afford payments that high doesn’t care about reliability 20 years down the road. That’s what used buyers think about.
Everyone keeps bashing the price of these while conveniently forgetting that all its competitors are similarly priced. Some of it more. This thing mainly competes with the Navigator and Escalade. The Navigator is about evenly matched on price and the Escalade is MORE. I own one of these GW’s and I compared all the competition before buying one. The Wagoneer is just nicer. People don’t want to admit it, but it is. And don’t talk to me about reliability. Yes I’ll admit, Stellantis vehicles aren’t known for it; but GM’s reliability has absolutely TANKED in the last couple decades. Ford has never been great either. They all suck. You want reliability? Go buy a Toyota. I bought the GW because it’s freaking sweet. Haven’t had any problems with it yet. Knock on wood; which I can easily do because it has ACTUAL WOOD in the interior. Yes, it’s real wood. Not that fake shit you see in everything else.
I didn’t watch the video and will not for something that insanely pricy. Came here for the comments. So have to ask, are you sure this giant monstrosity has the same engine as my 2-door Sport Jeep Wrangler at 3,900 pounds?
why is it ok for other brands to charge over $100,000? is it because they are better, or because they told you they were better and you believed them? audi, mercedes, land rover are mostly worthless junk after 10 years. you can buy any luxury brand for $3,000 after 10 or so years. this wagoneer will be worth more than $3,000 in 10 years.
I didn't like the looks of the Grand Wagoneer until my boss bought his 2024 Series 3 with the Palermo interior (Camel) gorgeous and super high-end. He had a 2022 Cadillac Escalade, but that Cadillac does not compare to the luxury of his Wagoneer.
My wife went from a 2021 Tahoe premier to a 2022 grand wagoneer with the 6.4. We absolutely love it. 48k on it now with zero issues.
Anybody here who says: "$140,000 for a Jeep! Wadda you nuts?" simply can't afford a fantastic vehicle like the Grand Wagoneer and probably never will. They also can't afford a Dassault Falcon 6X either. But for those of us who can, not waiting in long airport lines and having to deal with the TSA, flight delays, cancellations, arbitrary departure times and unruly, combative, inebriated fellow passengers, it's well worth the money for the convenience. Believe me, for the money, the Jeep Grand Wagoneer is well worth it to be surrounded by soft, comfortable, heated and cooled leather, a quiet cabin and amenities out the ying yang, especially on long trips. Not buying (if you can afford it) a Jeep Grand Wagoneer because "it's a Jeep," is like not accepting the gift of a Bombardier Challenger Global 6000 because it's built by the same company that makes snowmobiles. "$40 million for a snowmobile! Wadda you, nuts?"
Completely agree.
That would be a blessing to have enough money to buy one of those and travel the country with your family in it😊
Good grief this price is truly absurd, which is why Wagoneers aren't selling. You can go to any Jeep dealer in the US and find Wagoneers that have been sitting for over a year. I say it's way past time for some sanity to return to vehicle pricing, so I'm thrilled that stupidly overpriced vehicles like this aren't selling.
Probably super reliable because it never leaves the showroom. Here in the States, these have been sitting in dealer lots. Some for two years - new 2022 model year units.
That’s a lie they’re selling more than the navigators
@@Ploto-c2k selling to who? Government G-Men because their blacked out Tahoes and Caddies have gotten too old? And they make only 4,000 or so Navigators per year so pretty much everything outsells a Navigator.
@@mikehughes8023 selling to upper middle class families who can afford a vehicle like this…
They sell about 1,500 navigators per month
2023 sales figures:
Lincoln Navigator 17,549
Jeep Grand Wagoneer 9,946
BTW. Thanks whoever is deleting my comment with sales statistics while allow someone in this thread to leave his comment accusing the OP with not not telling the truth.
I don't even know why they build these things, I watch the guys on caredge and last week they were talking about a brand new 2022 Grand Wagoneer 110,000 us with a 38,000 discount on it and they still can't sell it.
$140K. You can see why all Stellantis product sales are down in 2023. Great review as always.
Well if you watched the whole video, you might want to hear the reasoning from Steve as they're probably not targeting sales on this vehicle, but try to make it more luxurious than the other competitors.
That makes no sense. Its just one car.
@krane15 boomer, its meant to complete the Escalade, and the Lincoln Navigator. Get with the times boomer.
I agree with the comment made on the horrific appearance of the exterior of that vehicle. The interior designer should be promoted, and the parties responsible for the exterior should be fired. You almost wonder if the former should be responsible for the exterior as well since they did such a great job with the inside. I love the powertrain if this is going to be a 39 month lease and the interior design and choice of materials is class-leading. The only way I could stomach this vehicle is to have the blacked out edition with tints. As you commented, nobody is going to be purchasing this vehicle so switching to the forced induction high output inline 6 was a no-brainer. If you could drop this interior into an Escalade, you would have a home run.
With all the different people reviewing vehicles these days, I was pleasantly surprised how much I enjoyed this comprehensive report on the Jeep GW... I was glad you focused on the vehicle, the different angles as well as the views of the interior as you were discussing each one. Many of the other reviewers love to make sure they are always on camera, sometimes more than the vehicle... You and your dad were excellent, thorough and prepared.... Brilliant job to both of you, the camera guy and all involved... I just liked & subscribed my man...!
I have the Wagoneer. Most beautiful SUV on the road. Driving from coast to coast nothing else feels better. Feels very secured and safe. Takes command on the road, even 18 wheelers take notice. Can turn into a mobile home.
I agree cornbread. I have had mine since last July. only issues was a couple software glitches. not 1 issue with drivability. these have been resolved and I could see myself driving no other vehicle. Grand, series III. perfection.
@@jaywhitehead1171 Has the space to add a mattress, and install a 30 inch television in the rear side panel, add a microwave oven, add some 305 wide all season performance tires, take timeout at a nearest Walmart to wash and clean, pull along a small trailer, see the sites on the open and back roads. America’s not done yet. 🙂
Whoever decides the background music for these videos has GREAT music taste! (Assuming Howard, lol). One reason I love Truck King, besides the professionalism, content quality, and execution. I'm looking forward to seeing what's in store for 2024! Keep up the good work!
Appreciate it! That would be our videographer/editor Liam. Also why the videos look so good these days.
I'd be better off burning my cash for heat
There are like ten of these for sale at a lot by my house.. they have been there for like a year and a half.... Way too much money!
I’ll wait till it’s 10 years or so old and buy it for way cheaper. Grabbed a 11 grand Cherokee overland with the hemi last year for $16k still runs well.
Do an Internet search, there is still 2022 models sitting on dealer lots
Not a bad price for a competitive luxury SUV, great video thanks for all the information
To me luxury is not just about the product but about sales and service experience of brand. I shudder taking ,y vehicle to a Jeep dealer for service for $140,000 vehicle. Good luck with that
Not a hope in hell would I pay that kinda money.
That's nuts
Looks fantastic , Ive it way above the others in the segment ! Stellatus did it right but the cost eaves most f us out
not for you buddy. why even bother commenting or even watching the video? just watch videos of the toyota camry.
Having owned 2 brand new Chrysler products over the years I can say I would never even look at one of these even if I had the money. It’s a shame because I like Chrysler styling but being fooled twice, it won’t happen a third.
$140k for a vehicle I wouldn’t pay $70k for. 😂😂there’s a sucker born every minute!
would you pay $140 for a land rover, mercedes, or audi? yes, you would..why? because theres a sucker born every minute
No way you can get an off-road vehicle with all the tech for a mere 70K. Can you name that car?
Stephen, Do they send armed guards when they loan you a $140,000 SUV? 🤔😉🤣
Love you guys ! One of the Best Channels out there !
How is the starting and braking on this vehicle. I owned a lincoln navigator, and sometimes the tires would spin on starting and on braking the car would bounce around...does that happen on this car? I've been looking at it for awhile and want an honest opinion. You do very well on your videos, but could you always include how it feels and what it does when you start driving and how it reacts when braking? That will be the icing on the cake. Thanks for your thorough reviews and rounding things out with your dad involved...
Being that Jeep invented the luxury SUV, I'm not sure why you'd be that surprised that it costs that much...over the years Jeep have always had options available in the Corvette and Cadillac price range and up.
People for get the GW goes way back. Long before Cadillac Escalade came along. Long before. The suburban is older, but its a workhorse. Not a luxury vehicle, and certainly not as off-road capable.
Saw the thumbnail and looked up opulent 😂😂😂😂
Realistically with the Canadian economy on the verge of a housing collapse, this may not be a bad option for a family to live in.
You might be onto something! You should suggest this idea to the San Francisco and Portland Oregon city councils as a solution for the - homeless /cross that/- unhoused people’s housing. Everyone gets a Jeep Wagoneer to live in. Cheaper than what they do now and it helps auto sector.
That's why I love American automotive, what a size. Shame that Hemi V8 isn't available any more. Great review as always. Greetings
escalade vs G wagoneer vs navigator :
exterior : escalade
interior : GW , navigator
If Lincoln and jeep change the exterior design will be awesome.
Also V8 sound on the escalade is a beast.
Really nice vehicle. Chrome on the front great chrome on the side and back is a no go has to be blacked out
I own this vehicle and have to admit this is one badass vehicle, plenty of passing power very quite ride ....smooth on the road ....way better thank Chevy, gmc and cadillac
Someone would have to out of their mind to spend that much money on a jeep!
A short lease is the only way these things will get off the lot, as no one wants to deal with the reliability issues that this will inevitably have. Plus the depreciation is going to be insane. I doubt many of the features will be working in 10 years on this Jeep. Hard pass even with markdown, if I had this money there's no reason to not get an Escalade or Navigator even. As an owner of a current gen Expedition, I would get the Cadillac.
140k for a jeep? I don't see the difference between Jeep and (say) Yukon/Cadillac or the Ford thing. It's all the same and I wouldn't feel less secure spending that money on a Jeep. My Grand Cherokee was an excellent vehicle in every way, already way back in 2011. The issue isn't that "it's a jeep", the issue is that its way too much money for any vehicle. And I worry about the future of Jeep because they can't survive on low sales numbers no matter how good this thing is. The GC and Wrangler and Ram 1500 can't carry all of FCA, they're going to tank quickly unless they get some good high volume stuff to market that people can actually afford.
You forgot to mention it has FLIR vision for night time driving.
It’s very apparent the bulk of your viewers aren’t the target audience for a 6 figure luxury SUV 😂
Im glad its a inline 6 that reminds me of the jeep cheerokes 4.0 high output. Straight 6 is good for torque
Not sure how many 110v outlets it has but i think it should have one in the cargo area. too much piano black in the interior. 10k sales units wont keep this suv alive. esp when gmc has over 275k in total sales with all their full size suv brands.
Now that's a BIG AMERICAN SUV
Imagine if stellantis lose their minds and put the hellcat powertrain on this behemot for no reason lol
Kudo's to the old man for biting his lip at juniors saying the engine being a v6.
Looking at it from the back I keep expecting the rear to open to show a long wooden box and 6 pallbearers inside.
Also, the 2 engines are not physically identical. There is more than just a software tune, I don't remember off the top of my head but there are definitely physical differences too.
HO has forged pistons, bigger turbos and 2 high pressure fuel pumps.
Imagine spending that kind of money to have it rust out within 10 years. Not sure if it was the video but sounded like the interior rattled a bit on those rough roads, I assume it was just how the video captured the sounds?
I love mine. didn't buy it with the intention of owning it for 10 years. Though, Stellantis/Chrysler seem to have a good hold on their rust issues like the older rams had. plus, it won't rust faster than a Toyota.
Living in Ontario you absolutely have to have it rust proofed, especially with that box steer frame.
Undoubtedly, coming to a rental fleet near you! Stellantis vehicles have the worst used resale value, worst reliability, in the market why anybody would buy this over a Tahoe, suburban, Cadillac Escalade, GMC or Ford expedition is beyond me.
did you say stellantis vehicles have the worst resale value? have you priced a used dodge challenger, they cost a fortune even used? or used jeep wrangler or grand cherokee, fortune even used? or have you priced a used land rover or mercedes...these two so called luxury brands are worthless after 15 years? i dont think you know what you`re talking about
you sold me on the Fam Cam... Does this come in a Obsidian3 package?
$140K!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
6:40 the red rear indicator lights are a fail and need to be illegal. Come on, Jeep, how is it 2024 and you don't know all indicator lights, front, side and rear are amber? Utterly mind boggling.
Not in Canada, that amber signal light thing is European.
I beg to differ. I don’t think anything else is as satisfying traveling cross country than the Wagoneer.🤷🏼
Why does every company think they need to be a luxury brand. At about 50k and less tech if you market this to families they would sell way better
$140k for a Jeep….$140K!!
Welcome to Canada
its not a jeep...its a wagoneer
Are you implying Jeep can't build a luxury car? You do realize that Lexus is just gussied up Toyota. The true mistake these brand make when they mover up is the service department is the same place
$140k?????? Nah
Id rather have a Tahoe or suburban high country and not spent 100k the jeep looks great and is great but i want to see how it does with age and reliability. We dont know if its going to be reliable or have many issues in 6month to 2 years of owner ship. I always like to wait to see how new models or engines do for a few years. Hopefully the jeep engine turns out to be good and reliable . I always loved cheerokes from 97 to 02 and older grand wagoneers and thr grand cheerokes.
Inline engines are the best! More power, less vibration, less noise and better fuel economy versus V engines! I agree $140,000 is too much for any SUV but when you compare it too Cadillac it trials badly in prestige! Not as much with Lincoln but if quality holds up it will take sales from Lincoln, Lexus and maybe Range and land rover due to terrible Quality from Rover group!
A can of baked beans used to cost 99 cents. Now over $2. That's why the vehicle costs $140k. Inflation. Also, affluent customers who can pay that.
Big problem with 3rd rows is not fitting back there it is getting in and out.
Getting out in particular always has the risk of a face plant and it is noisier back there as one is essentially sitting in the trunk.
Great video guys. Howard made an excellent point, almost no one keeps vehicles long term anymore. Gone are the days where people purchase a vehicle and drive it for 20 years or more. The timeline people keep vehicles for has been dwindling for a longtime. I’ve heard people literally say “ I need a new car, I’m bored of this one “. They drive it for a couple years or so, and get a new one. As long as they don’t have negative equity, That’s another conversation 😂
BS. The amount of cars made today that will last 20 yrs forces people to trade often.
I'm one of those who get bored easily. I just bought a Grand Wagoneer L Series III. Traded my 2022 BMW X7 because the GW was so much nicer and the X7 was just too small. This is my 40th vehicle, all purchased, none leased. I am retired.
its not a JEEP, though! its a Grand Wagoneer. remember that. remember they made the wagoneer its own category, and not considered a jeep. remember wagoneer was the first luxury suv. remember it was the first to have full time 4x4. it was a forerunner before the rest.
People did the same thing when the Lexus was called the Toyota Lexus...people were frazzled becsuse they said it was still a Toyota...down to today, the Lexus is awesome!
Ya out the door price is 180 dollars in 🇨🇦 that includes delivery fees,dealership fees, 10 percent luxury tax and also HST (harmonized sale tax) up to 15% depending on which province you live in 😮
Thats criminal...
Buy a Denali and save a ton of cash.
It’s really funny how everyone is talking about how 140k is too much for a gw but number 1. This vehicle is only 106k American and number 2. This has a better interior and reliability than an Escalade yet people are complaining even though it’s cheaper.
“ This vehicle is only 106k American”
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@@is6566 and worth it too
Yes i always have said that the back is weird looking. Im glad someone said it. But idk who would buy it. Vehicles should never cost that much money. Idk what these car companies are thinking.
They want people with money.
great video! thanks guys!
$140k for a hearse on wheels. Interior looks awesome though.
The designers failed miserably on the exterior design of this vehicle….No matter how good the interior looks, the exterior past the front doors backwards makes you want to loose your stomach contents 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮. Also, there are reports on the interior quality for longevity is having some issues as well on the ones that are a few years old. Bottom line, those who can truly afford these will lease them for 24 to 36 months max. That way it stays under a factory warranty. And if after a few months they really don’t like it and can’t stomach the look of the outside anymore, they dump it and move into something else. …..
Seem to be rocking around alot when driving
when you buy luxury you do not want engine sound. You also want to be talking to the people in the back row without talking over the engine.
You got the numbers wrong. It's 510 horsepower and 500 T
And here I thought only I noticed. I have one.
Dude it’s 510 hp and 500 gt torque . Also it’s not same engine as entry level hurricane. These a list as long as both arms that parts are vastly different . Typical TH-cam videos where people don’t research their product , get educated , upon doing a video for public .
$140 K for a Stellatis product. In the words of Dr. Evil from Austin powers, "How about nooooo"
Great Luxury amenities but Has MAJOR Mechanical Problems!!! They haver a HUGE Buyer return rate
mostly software glitches. from what i have been seeing..... mine drive like a dependable champ.
What are you talking about?
Yes the back end is awkward and ugly, doesn’t matter, nobody is going to buy them, who is the customer base for this vehicle?
If someone pays that money for a Jeep there is no helping them.
not worth it
If I had the money and if it was proven to be a reliable car. I would absolutely love one.
Exterior styling are here and there but most importantly is the engine and transmission reliable? Normally, Jeep do not have great reliability record. If they are reliable, can Jeep provide 10 year unlimited mileage warranty on engine and transmission? At 140K!!! It should at least come with good warranty.
you should also point out that a similarly price land rover or mercedes which costs the same, are less reliable and have worse resale values. in 10 years you can buy a used mercedes or range rover for $3,000. i can tell you that in 10 years the wagoneer will cost more than $3,000
I did not expect to see such a nice interior in a Jeep, nice review
It's certainly expensive though I cant comment on much other than I think it was missed opportunity for Jeep not to offer an offroad trim of this model lineup. They've known now for years how the offroad and overlanding market was in full swing, but then brought out this low slung wagon form factor. I am not interested in that type of vehicle, but I know having one on offer would have helped increase popularity and sales for their intended market.
Not sure about the 2024 models, but for 2023 you can get a Wagoneer with the Advanced All-terrain Group. It has 18” all-terrain tires, two-speed transfer case, skid plates, electronic rear diff, and air suspension to increase ground clearance, etc.
@@davidhypes5228 Oh interesting, I had no idea there was such a package available. I dont see any package like that for the '24s but maybe some of the features or components were added in with other packages or made standard? Wonder why that wasnt more prominent in their marketing, I feel like Tahoe Z71 and Expedition Wilderness kind of play into a lot of people's desire for an offroady SUV and I always thought the Wagoneer would benefit from that approach.
Yes i would i love this suv dnt own one but would love to one day ❤❤❤
I want this vehicle in 6x6
Too much chrome and I am not a fan of twin turbos.
I am way past having kids but the fam cam looks like a good idea. My brother and I knew to separate when Dad started scooting to the middle of the front seat and getting his arm over the seat back. We quickly learned there was no way he could reach to the back seat corners of a 49 Buick Roadmaster.
I’m not impressed with these new Wagoneer’s - the late ‘70’s and early ‘80’s Wagoneer’s were beasts!!!
INSANE PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent review!!! 😁
its probably trying to compete with rangerover ,landrover,this might be more reliable than those.
*a $140K Luxury SUV that will break down because Cheap Jeep Quality never changes no matter how nice they make the interior and exterior look in the showroom, save your money and buy a Lexus SUV*
Only a fool who hates their money would spend that kind of money on a Chrysler.
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Yea but would just be trading in the option to own one pos for another pos😑……..buy a Lexus psssssssst, only if you’re blind and love ugly!
As they said in the video very few will pay $140k for this. This will be leased for 3 years in which time even a jeep won’t have any issues. The fact this outsells the Lexus LX by a huge margin proves this point. Anyone who can afford payments that high doesn’t care about reliability 20 years down the road. That’s what used buyers think about.
Lmao Toyota and Lexus people are something else. Check the tundra recalls and get back to me.
Sr. Has it right, no one’s worried about the total cost of this vehicle, this is a lease for 3/4 years then move on type of vehicle.
No problems with the styling. The ou have to stick out some how
i dont understand why the company wont call it a jeep, yet they use jeep headlights and the 7 slot grill. that makes no sense to me and i`m a jeep guy
Love everything about it.
Ugly. Just plain ugly. $140K? For a Jeep product? Ridiculous.
They are pricing themselves right out of the market and won’t sell. 140k for an unreliable piece of 💩.
Would you really take something like that off road?
I like it. Not for me cause for $140,000 i would buy something more fitting for myself
Everyone keeps bashing the price of these while conveniently forgetting that all its competitors are similarly priced. Some of it more.
This thing mainly competes with the Navigator and Escalade. The Navigator is about evenly matched on price and the Escalade is MORE.
I own one of these GW’s and I compared all the competition before buying one. The Wagoneer is just nicer. People don’t want to admit it, but it is.
And don’t talk to me about reliability. Yes I’ll admit, Stellantis vehicles aren’t known for it; but GM’s reliability has absolutely TANKED in the last couple decades. Ford has never been great either. They all suck. You want reliability? Go buy a Toyota.
I bought the GW because it’s freaking sweet. Haven’t had any problems with it yet. Knock on wood; which I can easily do because it has ACTUAL WOOD in the interior. Yes, it’s real wood. Not that fake shit you see in everything else.
Guys, I don't think either Ford or GM makes an interior like this. IMHO
The only complaint I have is that it wasn't as funny to see Steven in the 3rd row of this SUV.
Looks like a Hearse! Dead bodies apply!
Jeep out of their mind!
a 3.0L V6??? In that massive SUV? 😂😂😂😂😂
I didn’t watch the video and will not for something that insanely pricy. Came here for the comments. So have to ask, are you sure this giant monstrosity has the same engine as my 2-door Sport Jeep Wrangler at 3,900 pounds?
@@is6566 it's a twin turbo 3.0 inline 6, so a different engine to Wrangler (though less displacement than the 3.6 in the Wrangler).
Ok tx. That is fine then. Twin turbo will move it just fine. It’s still pricey as heck.
why is it ok for other brands to charge over $100,000? is it because they are better, or because they told you they were better and you believed them? audi, mercedes, land rover are mostly worthless junk after 10 years. you can buy any luxury brand for $3,000 after 10 or so years. this wagoneer will be worth more than $3,000 in 10 years.
High Country selling for $122,000. Not under 100k.