DeWALT's Unreleased "Project Ludicrous" DCF961 Impact
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Today we allegedly test the looks a lot like DeWALT might be a model number like DCF961 some might call it internally (wherever internally might be) "Project Ludicrous" torque. We do not own this tool, it merely stopped by the shop and our testing equipment exchanged salutations with it. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Well, this thing will do to sockets what Thanos did to humans.
@@enderblazex2718 Half the socket right down the center disappears? Haha
Finally, an impact wrench worthy of the 15 ah Flexvolt.
You should have used one of your special weight sockets... UGGGG I really want to see 1k.
So... Stanley is like Apple now and carefully accidentally putting their prototypes in public?
This will be ideal for really rightening down those oil filters
or making sure those lug nuts are nice and tight!👌
Im so glad that in the future my oil pan bolts will never leak 😊
As a person who has had the "priviledge" of tearing half the stuff off the side of an engine in a tight engine bay to fix the damage done by an idiot who ignored the large 25NM Max warning and screwed the oil filter in so tight that a machine shop was needed to repair the damage, allow me to say "You, sir, are a bad man!" 🤪
Don’t forget the drain bolt and your spark plugs
Lmfao!
The new 961 will also come with a bonus feature. Where it will turn all your your half inch square drive sockets, into a 7/10s circle drive socket. ⭕️
I’m giggling at this more than I should lol
Gotta turn them into t65 drive sockets
Exactly. How many impact socket can handle the repeated abuse that a 1/2” drive like this can dish out.
Imagine if you accidentally put a regular non impact socket on. An the poor extension bars
@@stephenparchewski1998 I kind of would prefer to be 3/4. I feel like it's easier to find 3/4 sockets that are larger sizes. You can find them at tractor supply but none over inch and a quarter that are half inch
nothing I own would ever require this many beans. I could never use it appropriately.
I am extremely inclined to buy one as soon as I can.
Everyone we showed it to at the shop wanted it, including the receptionist
when I saw VTEC kick in during the 10s run, my wallet shed a tear. I hope that makes it to production.
@@mourakue1172 Perfect impact for Honda crank bolts
@@mourakue1172 vtec😂😂
@@TorqueTestChannel gotta have something to unjam the printer with duh lol
If I were DeWALT, this is exactly what I would do for a pre launch campaign for a flagship product. Stick a fairly polished prototype out there under the guise of a leak, let it circulate for a while to tool channels, especially those tough to get on board ones. Let them have a whack at it for a bit, maybe even take some notes for a revision later on. Then make a small fuss about the leak to further spread the word, but not enough to piss the market off. Then a few weeks later, before the competition’s marketing and R&D department gets crapped on and whipped back into their skunkworks, release the finished product.
I'm not saying it's not possible. But the means by which we got this took a lot of... uh convincing we'll say to allow it to show up here. DeWALT is all about embargo dates to show a tool, dates you can test a tool. I very much do not think this is suppose to be seeing many eyes.
If the legal team takes it down, put black tape over all the logos and upload again!
Definitely not saying it is absolutely what they did. Just saying that, as unlikely as it may be (I don’t know enough about the back story to make any claims), it would be a clever way to get it done. Basically, if they wanted to make it seem unlikely, they (not exclusively “they” either) have very deep pockets to pay very clever people to make it happen that way. I imagine they can’t just ship you guys a tool, and say: hey look at this cool toy, as you guys would instantly get a spidey sense that there was a plot behind it.
Also don’t undervalue the value of your channel, which is all about facts, impartial testing and has a lot of trust from your audience, as a consequence. Additionally, don’t underestimate how much a brand/marketing team/agency with enough budget, would covet that kind of quality exposure, especially when that channel doesn’t take sponsorship deals.
I suppose we’ll have a better understanding when we see how they inevitably handle it:
If they 1: steer into the slide/indifference, it was likely accidental, but they are happy with the outcome, or it met certain KPIs for the budget. 2: offer small resistance, in which case, they either knew it was going to happen, or started to react poorly, but saw value in capitalising on the mistake. 3: scorched earth meaning it was completely accidental and they’re doing damage control instinctively but detrimentally.
If it’s either one of those first two, my money is on them engineering the whole thing, which would be worthy of a tip of the hat. Especially since it would mean they played all of us perfectly and likely would be the first and only time it will ever happen on TTC. That in itself would be worth gold to them in bragging rights over the competition, being able to penetrate a market that was otherwise impossible to reach.
I’m a software engineer in a marketing department, with over 15years experience in, around and with similar schemes in the digital space. So even though I wouldn’t go so far as to say that they outright did, I know it’s absolutely possible that they could given enough time, budget and motivation. Accidental or not, your video has done more for them than 100’s of thousands of dollars in marketing spending ever would have.
Anyway, just my 2c and great video! Nice to see we can still get more beans from a saturated market of “high torque” cordless impact guns and that innovation isn’t just dead, due to engineering to a price point.
Shhh!
How are they going to sneak in free r&d testing if you give away their secrets like that?! 😡
Ya it was a total leak. Don’t listen to this guy!
Oh whoops would you look at that looks like this shipment of un announced tools some how got lost, and ended up in TTC shop space. I hope he abides by the “top secret do not test! 😠 “ signage!
The problem is that people won't buy the stuff on the shelves right now if they think a skunkwork product that would be a big upgrade would hit the stores soon.
VTEC wrench for a Honda crank bolt, a match made in heaven
Had to watch this as soon as it came out, kinda expecting a cease and desist
I feel like this is free advertising for dewalt though
@@IceColdBellPepper We test all the tools so whatever this made when it comes out would be on the channel anyways. I doubt they wanted this out before they announced it. I'm driving out of state now and leaving the phone at home :P
@@TorqueTestChannel don't worry too hard bro, the dewalt snipers kick out of the assassin's hands just like the high torques 😵💫
Nah these "leaks" generate a lot of buzz and thus free publicity for the company. People love feeling like we are some how in on a secret after all, just look at how rumors fly around a small town for example.
True true, you’re one of the few unbiased testers out there. Godspeed man 🫡
DeWalt is definitely working on their impacts. Several months ago some DeWalt engineers brought a very early prototype one inch 20volt impact to my job for real world mechanic's feedback. Apparently my boss has connections.
This tool is the literal embodiment of:
"Please come loose."
"No."
_"Alright, _*_the hard way it is."_*
Mad.
So basically the perfect tool for the quick lube shops to tighten the oil drain bolts.
@@blockbertus you legit made me cringe and gave me flashbacks to trying to work on my dad's car, cracked three sockets and busted a ratchet before I gave up.
I've never not managed to remove a stuck bolt. But generally the head just snaps off.
@@Mp57navy There's 3 stages of bolt removal.
"Come loose" - The High Torque
_"I wasn't asking"_ - The Acetylene Torch
*_"I'll drag out your corpse"_* - Rip off the head and drill out the rest.
If a bolt has to come out, it's coming out.
Whether that's in itty bitty pieces, or a nice and mostly intact shape, is entirely up to the rusty piece of shit that dares stand between me and the end of my shift. :)
Can't wait to use this to install those drain plugs, and spark plugs, and the almighty self tapping screws.
I’ll be using mine to bolt my toilet to the flange.
This will blow a spark plug right through your cylinder head lol
Oh Hello Mr. Lube
Just pulled out a DCF900 today to drive 12 foot lag rods into the clay soil for tomato stakes. 1" socket out them 6 feet down in no time. It's a mean bastard of an impact.
It's pretty crazy to think how far battery powered tools have come.
I'll never quit marveling at the possibilities now. Fuck man 20 years ago you thought your cordless drill was badass
An awful lot of mechanics just don't use air in day to day any more.
@@evergreenrider True
I cant justify Snap-On when I was impressed by Dewalt from 2014 1/4 apex driver
@@proscriptus I do because eventually weight and compactness comes into play
This channel is hands down my favorite tool channel. The accurate trustworthy, unbiased testing, the dry humor, and overall quality... Frick'n awesome 👍👍👍
Thanks for all the effort and hard work.
Wow! I was thinking about upgrading to the 900. Now I’m thinking about getting the new mid torque for a daily driver and this monster for when things get serious 🤔
Funk!!!!
It's time to retest the drill and hex drive adapters.
What kinda drones are you flying that you need all the beans? :O
@@blockbertus First person forklifts.
I really hope this is available in a 3/4! Otherwise my 1/2 sockets are gonna be on a never ending warranty rotation lol
You know you’ve been watching a LOT of TTC when you know torque values are gonna be high just by the rotation speed of the dyno bolt in the opener 😂
yeah
Aww the difference between men and women.... a Tool Time moment over Torque and power!!! then women Gawk over over priced Chinese made fake name brand purses..
I own regular sized vehicles that only require about 100ftlbs to break. This is crazy and would have no use for it ever. I hope they launch it so I can buy it!!
This must be what all those other tire shops are putting locked lug nuts on with before throwing away the key
If this ends up being an actual product as a truck trailer mechanic I will be straight ditching my Milwaukee high torque and switching to this, as quite often it will be required for just general use haha
Great video. I’m a Milwaukee user, but this thing is a beast. It makes you wonder how much more powerful they can make these high torque 1/2” drives before anvils start snapping.
The numbers coming out of these 1/2" impacts are insane. Makes you wonder if the proffesional homeowners out there ever get to stretch the legs of these machines lol My midtorque has handled everything I've thrown at, from lug nuts on passenger cars to semi leaf spring hanger bolts torqued to 375/400 ftlbs.
Well, with me, if I need to loosen anything requiring over 500 ft lbs, chances are I’m stepping up to 3/4” drive because of the bigger socket size.
There at the limit now. Even the dcf900 is tearing sockets up.
Great for hobbyists/weekend warriors to brag to their mates but for proffesional users makes it nigh on useless - I'd rather not be replacing sockets every month.
Kinda makes me think about getting rid of all my red stuff so I can get an impact with VTEC!!
As soon i saw the v-tec kick in and stuff jumping around i'm like...fuck my wallet
It's like VTEC for impacts, lol!
NAWSSSSS!
Having worked at a Honda dealership in the rust belt region of the US, I 110% appreciated that mention of the Honda crank bolts. What I would've given to have had an impact like this back then, lol. The Snap-On cordless impact I had at the time was powered by a Ni-Cad battery 🤣. There were lug nuts it couldn't handle, let alone one of those God forsaken crank bolts.
Biggest rip ever is the older SnapOn battery tools. They're toys compared to what Milwaukee was putting out at the time. But now it seems DeWalt is the name to beat.
And yeah, the only bolt my M18 high torque couldn't handle was the infamous Honda crankshaft bolt. 😢 I wonder if my new dcf900 would handle?
@bluedistortions hard facts, lol. I destroyed the hammer on mine after about a year and a half of usage. Switched to DeWalt and never looked back. Yeah, I'm also curious whether these newer models could break a Honda crank bolt free. Would be a game changer!
Milwaukee R&D feverishly working away. That is a beast. Size torque and weight
Hope this comes out soon with a 3/4" anvil. I love my 899 for most jobs around the farm, but I have to put a 3/4" adapter on it for the tractor lug bolts and a bunch of other big ugga dugga nuts/bolts. This would go nicely with all my other DeWalt torque guns.
Wonder if the 961 could be part of the Power Detect line?
Can't wait to see what it can do with a 6 or 8 ah battery.
What I hear you saying is not to limp wrist DeWalt impacts to get the max out 💁🏼♂️
Great video 👍🏻
that extra kick 4 seconds in reminds of the newer brushless Makita saws, maybe only reversed?. I own 3, the 7 1/4" and the 6 1/2", wood saw, and the 5 7/8" metal saw. They have a high speed and high torque mode which the tool decides as your using it. Its high speed first then as the load gets higher, it goes to high torque mode. Pretty neat function. It would definitely be a cool function on impacts.
Dewalt putting some v-tec is something I didn't know I needed.
That is a monster fitting the name. There is no sane reason to pack so much torque in such a small package. This thing, whoever makes it, will give the whole industry a kick in the groin and a bonk on the head.
DeWALT’s been killing the impact game recently. Ya live to see it.
Love the new dewalt content you guys keep posting. The research you all are doing is amazing. Love all the content brothers!
Phenomenal. I can’t wait to see how hikoki it’s not even hit mhpt press releases yet upcoming high torque release fares against this i think it’s rated at 1600 N as well and ip56 rated. Hikoki has some great stuff just wish it was all available stateside, but phenomenal work boys..The one time I didnt cared to watch a TH-cam ad was halfway this video lol…Again Well done TTC & of course dewalt as theyve stepped it up this year maybe more than ever for the mechanics out there
It's getting to the point where impacts will have to come with bolt stretch meters.
I hope they give the guy at that DeWalt meeting who said:
Hey, what if we put VTEC in an impact?
I hope he gets a raise.
Man my notification bell on a Friday is the most anticipated notification hands down form TTC and im from a little island in the Caribbean lol TNT 😉
i just received my DCF961b, i had my wife order it from Lo's online.. The other orange Big Box Store dont even show a item number for it..... Cant wait to put it to the Test...
What about the battery powered nascar pit guns from Bristol’s dirt race? I saw them at the stage stops
Your sound chanel is on another level!!
Just saw on your rankings chart " We've opened this up and it's definitely a DeWalt" LMFAO! Love the changes you've done on the chart, BTW...
Shhhhhhhhhh :P
I hope Dewalt does release this model this year. Just add a 15 Ah battery, and it would easily be the best 1/2" cordless impact. Release it in 3/4" as well and add a removable side handle, and it will dominate them as well.
Dewalt continues to impress! Love it!!!
It's not impressive if it destroys the sockets, in fact its useless.
Time to go to 3/4"
@@deezelfairy If they don't release it in a 3/4 variant, I'd bet someone will make an aftermarket replacement to change it.
@@ohhhLuna Going from 1/2" to 3/4" doesn't sound as easy as going the opposite way. It'd be quite tricky to make the hole bigger to fit the bigger drive size i think.
@@deezelfairy warranty is a beautiful thing
I want one in 3/4 or 1". Somehow I manage to find myself working on forklifts and bulldozers and far too often I come across nuts that just laugh at my current options and I use my hot wrench instead, plus even at 8lbs it's lighter than my 3/4" air impact. Put a 3" socket and adapter on the end of that beast and it doesn't take long for your arm to start screaming at you.
I’m definitely buying this when it’s available!! That’s truly like a 3/4 in power from a 1/2 in that impressive!!
I am so Hyped! Ketchup coming soon I hope
Just when we thought the 891 was a monster then they bring this out😱😱😱😱. My daily is the 921 . I wouldn't mind having this for the larger bolts I deal with
DeWalt said Milwaukee hold my beer a minute.
I know this channel is tilted more to the mechanic but I do a lot of work with steam piping and I fully concur with TTC that if you can get more torque into a handheld platform that is great. If anyone out there has ever tried to loosen the bolts from a 8"' or larger flange that has been in place for 30 plus years and has been heated and cooled over those 30 years, you know that most impact wrenches won't even touch them. We always try impact wrenches first because they are convenient, but usually we have to get the torch and cut them out. Great content as always.
I like the new intro bro! Short and sweet!
It would be awesome if this was a flex volt tool and performance increase a lot with higher voltage. If gearing is really the same but rpm is down due to brushless motor being bigger and needing more volts to reach 2k+
Yeah this thing on 60v would be nuts.
Maybe it's flexvolt capable? Can't wait for the more battery video they are going to do!
I mean something that big would only excel with 60v batteries.
On the farm this will be a game changer... very excited. Dewalt, please leave this up.
Wondering if you'll ever get the new Metabo ssw 18 ltx 1750 bl. Obviously the proper dark green German model.... thats claiming 1450nm or 2100nm nut busting torque....looks a beast though that's 3/4 drive.
How to get a bolt out. You tighten it till it breaks loose. It's like whispering to the bolt : "You don't wanna come out ? I was not asking, and we don't have any compromises." 😂
I prey they make it a 3/4 I’m a mobile tech for a trucking company and I have destroyed a few 1/2 sockets doing rusty tires with my Dcf900. I can only imagine what this thing would do to them.
When you compare to the DCF900 it's very apparent that they continued with the trend of making impact wrenches a little shorter and fatter. As you increase the size of the mechanism to increase torque, the diameter of the moving parts is a more powerful factor than their length. It's much like the relationship between diameter, length, and volume of a cylinder (e.g. the amount of water a bucket holds). Increasing the diameter increases the volume much more than increasing the length by the same amount.
I own every red fuel tool. But because of TTC I have my first dewalt. Dcf923b it’s sweet. I think this (when released) beast will be my next. Thanks a lot TTC! more tools I really don’t need.
Dcf923 was my first DeWalt tool ever purchased too (quickly followed by a DCF900)! just a few days ago, also thanks to TTC. Been team red for over 20 years, but really disappointed at their choices the past few years, and impressed more by DeWalt than anyone else on the market right now.
If Milwaukee doesn't lose customers, they won't change. 🤷🏼♂️
Do you think the bigger batteries help dampen the rotational forces? If so, wouldnt that also transmit more of that rotational force to the fastener? Would be interesting to see a 5ah vs a 5ah with a 2 lb weight mounted to the bottom of the battery. And then of course 8ah with weights, using a weighted socket. For science n stuff.
Man I bought the dcf 961 today . Let me tell ya this thing is massive 8+ lbs and I'll tell ya. That 1300ftlb is way way way underrated lol. Check out the 2700ftlb it actually brakes .
That "turbo" is battery management. Longer battery life when you're only drawing half the power for applications that don't need the full beans
Luckily I don't have any use for a hammer like this but it's fun to watch you guys drool over it. It's got the right color battery for my shop but I won't be asking Santa for it this December.
i work oil field on equipment that has seen better days , if that tool can fit where I need it I will for sure be using this beast.
I know this is an older video but I’m at a bit of an impasse. Looking at buying my first impact wrench. 90% of its use will be on cars at home. Engineer (still in college but work in the trade) so would use it at times in work for disassembly. Looking at a compact platform as I’ll buy a bigger unit later down the line for bigger jobs at home on vehicles. Choosing between M12 and DCF921. My question is, are the DCF921 batteries the same used on the newer high torques by Dewalt? Although the DCF921 is Approx 100 euro more for the kit €253 vs €365, the battery’s being usable on the high torque units could sway me in that direction
Finally, an impact driver that can dislocate my shoulder and put it back by rotating it a full 360 degrees!
I love the bigger Hammer design. Cuz in the real world the impact of one-hit matters a lot! because if you don't move anything with the one-impact you'll never loosen anything!
It sure beats the ole "4 foot pipe on a 3 foot breaker bar, jump on it until you come crashing down" method.
Also those stronger thumps would have to be better on breaking down rust.
And the bonus: it tries to loosen the nut reasonably.. before breaking stuff.
had to pause to let u know that for me being norwegian its great that you added metric value(the true value) to the captions :) convert to metric sir. its the best
I wish the US was metric trust me!
@@TorqueTestChannel meeeeeetriX! hehe its so much easier to deal with if one has to do math with them values ehh? most yanks dont even know that their sae scale is actually a metric value that gets converted via a conversion table to sae imperial value of inches :)
Personally i use the tengtools chart if i need a conversion. some odd pipes and other round gear still uses sae here too
I'm all about the numbers, but I remember you saying that you found yourself reaching for the Matco over the 900 cuz it was nicer to use. What about the Makita 3/4? Would you take that over this 961 in 3/4? I waited for that 900 to come out but never got it cuz it just seemed to pop around too much - just didn't seem like a refined tool and looks like a blimp. (I did buy the 891, then sold my 894)Thanks for everything you guys do - keeping these Manufacturers honest... Love your flashlight vids, got me hooked. You guys are the best!
We'll see what this guy can do with other batts and weigh in on that for you.
Whew! Thank God I didn't get that Milwaukee tat!
Ordered mine last week the day they were announced in the uk
The official impact of "oh, your buddy said he can do it cheaper? Alright, I'll put it back together for ya"
That shape on the back looks like the perfect sized spot for a flexvolt logo!
It already says XR on it tho
@@TorqueTestChannel can't we dream? Lol
@Torque Test Channel maybe power detect then? We all just want more power. Like you! ;)
Would this be a good choice for tightening sump plugs?
Such a Tease not using the 15AMP battery in this vid! can't wait to see if it cracks 1000
I cant wait to see what Milwaukee has coming? My 2017 2767 is getting tired! She's still a beast tho, busts off track bolts and big rig lug nuts daily
Few more months
Another thought is breakaway torque. When you do the loosening from a certain torque you might want to not use your test setup because of the hydraulic pressure you do have some crush.
A nut or a bolt flat up against a solid metal surface would give a better idea I think for speed on breakaway torque
You're totally correct. We dont normally show it, but thought it might demonstrate the difference here in another way
Would like to have seen you test it with the 6 amp at least or bigger. Love the videos keep em coming. 👍
So when are they going to add a control board that regulates ft/lb torque?
So there's a screen with up and down buttons. just press up and down to your desired ft/lb torque and it will stop whenever
Realizing I turned into my father as I sat here watching this video with so much excitement.
I have not yet had a moment with my DCF900 where I thought it was underpowered, and the high RPM is just so good. It's hard to imagine a case for this being a half inch, why obsolete Bruiser 2 like a year after I went on sale?
I have a sneaky suspicion that if/when the release model drops, testing it will show why this one was a prototype. Even if it's just upping it from a 1/2 inch!
Those dam Honda Crank bolts be afraid! I would have loved to seen a 8ah battery test cheers
The ultimate "I'm not asking anymore" tool.
I wonder if it's 1/2" just because they wanted it to be tested by a wider group without requiring them to have 3/4 drive tools?
That's a good point
3/4 drive sets are really pricey, that would make sense. I have like 2 sockets... one for duramax half-shaft nuts and one for the duramax crank bolt.
Man 2 new high torques within a year from big yellow. Really hoping team red comes up with w new generation sometime soon
What body parts do I need to sell to acquire one of these?
please do some longer forward tests, it would really help for picking the right impact, we need a lot of forward torque. reverse is almost untouched on most tools here
Consider the M18 Pistol 1"
I can see this having “Flexvolt Advantage” and breaking into the 1000+ ft•lbs. probably 1100+ with flexvolt batteries
Wonder what it can do with some flex volt batteries?
It sounds like it almost has the same pace as my pneumatic air wrench after that so called turbo kicked in. Love to have this model for my shredder drum cover cap 2in' bolts .
A company like SB&D wouldn’t “leak” a tool like that. Either it’s field prototype that is being tracked, or it’s the best knock off “fan fiction” driver ever.
Dewalt new fill plug wrench is nice! 😎👍🏼 can’t wait
I’ll buy one. When they stop bumping the number to look good and leaving the 1/2” extension. It eats sockets. To much torque for 1/2” drive.
I swear dewalt has no chill when it comes to high torque and power my god
Do I need this power? An unqualified YES! This beast would make farm equipment repair a breeze.
Great impact wrench!
Does show the limit to 1/2” anvil. And how much the human wrist will endure after repeated use.
If you do a follow up, plese compare it to xgt high torque, it looks better in every way to me, thanks!
DeWalt really putting heavy hitters out now
Will it have a drill bit adapter?
What a monster - I'll have to up the pounds at the gym to be ready for this bad boy !!!🏋️♂️