I remember when she was the one who gave Hurrem a goal in her first day at the Harem, Nigar grabbed her aside and told her that she can be a Sultana, Hurrem had a reason to stay and fight at the Harem since that moment.
I love this episode. Hurrem withdrew her plan to have Ibrahim killed after seeing how sad and worried Hatice was, chose to be quiet while Mahidevran was teasing her, did not do anything even after learning that a concubine was sent to Suleiman's chamber. In the end, it was an unexpected victory for her! She remained respectful and sincere. And I liked how she delivered her lines to Mahidevran. Soft but piercing.
Nothing was soft. Yes, she was smiling, but triumphant at the same time. And her expectation of congratulations from Mahidevran is completely mocking her to the end ... it is clear that her opponent is crushed, she is in a swoon. Hurrem would be silent, at least at first, but no, he also adds nervousness with his behavior.
I wish the writers made Hafsa like she really was. A loving kind lady who cared only for her son's happiness and she treated Hürrem and Mahidevran the same. Hürrem and Hafsa had a cordial relationship
He also didn't marry Hurrem until after she died. No one could outrank the sultans mother. Hurrem also didn't have to bow to his sisters. When hafsa was dead and they were married she outranked everyone.
Well, if they did if wouldn't attract so many viewers. But they really went overboard. At least they could follow the real historic timeline as they married after Hafsa's passing.
Nobody knows if Hafsa was nice or a witch. Nobody knows if Hürrem was nice or a witch. We only know 5 sentences in letters and nobody knows if they were written with a political motive. Y’all act like Hafsa is your neighbor… The woman died 400 + years ago and besides her being Selim’s concubine and Suleyman’s mother we know exactly zero things about her.
Gulfem lost her child with Suleiman and she was put aside. Mahidevran expected sympathy from her? It would be the same as Hurrem asking for Mahidevran's sympathy when Firuze appeared in Suleiman's life... Or even worse because Gulfem wasn't even lucky enough to have her child alive at that time.
@@rhaeviserrang898 she was a concubine who becomes suleimans favourite later on in the series, where he starts to only spend Thursday nights with hurrem, but later on she is revealed to be a spy, and thrown out of the palace, after that no other women comes in suleimans life.
Gulfem started the mess when she poked Mahidevron about Hurrem in the first few episodes. She was cast aside for Mahidevron, Mahidevron was cast aside for Hurrem. Gulfem fanned the flame of jealousy and coasted til the end.
@@ahanyalama2724 if you're here because you only want to write a comment below my comment, then why are you even asking? An opinion is an opinion even if you consider it as a hate comment.
it's situationally Ironic, because you're correct. According to history, Suleyman and Hurrem married AFTER his mother had passed away as per her wishes.
Well myb bcz Noth really happened like the series and it upset me cuz suleyman is one of the strongest and smartest figures I the history of ottoman empire and they destroyed his image
The shock on Ibrahim's face when he learns that Suleiman is going to marry Hurrem 😈 Valide should have listened to Hurrem in the beginning when she begged her to release her
I always find it funny, the scene when Hurrem asks Mahi if she will congratulate their marriage. Suleiman's face is like "🙄You don't really have to rub it in her face... ", but he's also not saying anything, just letting his new wife gloat lol...
He didn't roll his eyes.....it was more a look up with a half grin as if to say "hmmm let's see how you respond to that". He was quietly approving what was asked.
No way, Oh please 😂The man is the kind who would ask something like that himself. If Hurrem didn't, he definitely would have made some sort of comment 😂
@@mamahalif7343 I read Suleiman married Hurrem after her death? I started watching this show back in 2015, but it was very difficult to find TRUE historical reports.
Nigar is the only person who are smiling after the solemnize announcement. Hurem has a lot of rivals and they're ain't happy to see her married to suleyman. but I'm with hurem.🤗
What gets me is that Hurrem just wanted Valide to be fair, yet her and Mahi created the threat they were so afraid of. If they just left her alone I doubt the marriage would have even happened.
They had to portray the marriage in the series because historically it happened. But they married after Valide Hafsa Sultan passed away and Mahidevran had been in Manisa for about two years with Mustafa. Of course, for drama and money sake they butchered real and great historical characters.
10/10 acting this series eclipses the acting of any mainstream movie or show I have seen. Even just a simple conversation can convey such powerful emotions it's hard to remember that it's a show and not reality!
It’s ironic to me when mahidevran is sobbing in front of gulfem and saying ‘as usual you don’t care about my pain’ meanwhile mahidevran took suleiman from Gulfem 🤣🤦🏻♀️
In all honesty, she did the exact same thing to Gulfem and gloated about it for years. She made sure that Gulfem never got a chance to have another child. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't kill Gulfem's son. Only the could Mustafa be safe and become the Sultan. No one ever found it strange with the dozens of women he had around, and with her having the most furtile night, why didn't he have more children than just with her and Hurrem? That would definitely be odd. Hurrem became a brilliant strategist. If they had treated civilly, they may have lived longer. And Gulfem isn't as innocent as she appears. All the time, she had no child yet stayed in the higher ranks by looking pitiful and attaching herself to those she felt had power. She was in the middle of it all and against Hurrem until she almost died. I do believe she did love his other kids, though. At least Mustafa and Mehmed anyway. She bidded her time until she could try her revenge against Sulemon. She did more manipulation behind the scenes I bet.
@@lisamonteleone13 as per the show gulfem was a good friend of hatice and she was so close to valide Sultana.. she had her share of grudge with mahidevran and hurrem and she showed in her words with mahidevran when mahi goes overboard.. she never left her rank until hurrem got married and moved her.. it's shown in nigar's marriage sequence were hurrem wears her crown first time.. hurrem brilliance and charm got her everything she wished.. iconic character..
If hurrem and ibrahim were allies, the family would have lived happily ever after. Ibrahim wouldn't have died, Mustafa would slowly start understanding hurrem and there would be no death
They are unhappy but they made her she was never protected so she learnt that more power will protect her. They made her and they have to live with what they made.
She rose from a captured slave who was taken to unknown lands, to become the Sultan’s legal wife and Ottoman Empress. I wish that Magnificent century stayed closer to the historical facts, as Hurrem’s story is already great on its own.
He only married Hürrem after his mother's death. He adored his mother and he owed her a lot. Given his character, it would not have been possible for him to do that to his mother.
@@gunescelik4207 I have never read that from any historian. Shortly before Valide's death, they were probably more of a community of convenience to protect the empire and the Sultan himself from the power-drunk Ibrahim.
@@siggisn7885absolutely agree. We can only speculate what the relationship between Hurrem and Valide Sultan was. No one was ever allowed in the Harem and most of what we know is from thirdy party sources, mostly ambassadors and foreigners, who again relied on other sources. Valide Hafsa is said to have been a very loving mother and her only concern was the well being of his son. Even if she didn't agree with Hurrem having multiple children or Suleyman supposed faithfulness, she would never ever try to kill her. And yes, the power drunk Ibrahim was a much bigger concern around that time. But Suleyman, the real one, handled it very well. Ibrahim stepped over the line and burned to the ground.
The saddest part is Mustafa's little face falling. He loves his siblings because they told him the last time his mom was pregnant that the baby boy knew he didnt want a brother, so he decided not to come, His mom was always lying and sobbing and he had to bear the blunt of it. Hurrem hated that look on his face, too. If they had executed her when she beat Hurrem or when she posioned her, Hurrem would have raised Mustafa as her own, and then maybe they would have had long lives together and peace. Hurrem never allowed her kids to disrespect her even if she tried to get Mustafa to get rid of Hurrem over and over. It would have been likely that Selim would have been the only dead sibling.
Хюрем своих то детей не смогла правильно воспитать ей некогда было она каждый божий день напрягала свою голову как бы кого отравить оболгать уничтожить
It’s like my wedding, mother in law hated me hahaha! But I gave him two boys, the only ones in the family. That really made them angry and none came to see me or the babies. But I did not care, my family and husband rejoiced!
@@luneluna307 in many parts Africa having male children is a essential to keeping a husband's love and attention and in-laws happy. Else the woman is replaced with one who can produce children especially sons. Sad but true
@@waitaminutewhat6210 The woman is sent out with kids and the ex husband pays for the children's upkeep. He then brings on the new wife who will give him the son. In most cases the side chic is already pregnant with a male child so he brings her in to make her his wife
@@nka8786 How would they know that it's a male? What if it's a girl? What happens then? I'm sorry to bombard you with so many questions... I'm just curious 🫣
Them letting him be raised by her was part of his down fakl she was still so bitter even after years she would not stop openly being wounded and letting her son see her that way surely poisoned his heart
Mahidevaran..Was strong woman She desired the life to live with Suleiman but hurrem lived that life with Suleiman..She took fight from hurrem.from day one and always Wanted to put hurrem down..and always paid a very heavy price for her cheap actions..Lost Suleiman's favour,Lost her son Mustafa...She started using Mustafa as her sheild when she couldn't defeat hurrem...
She wasn't strong at all. All her ways of fighting are scandals, tantrums and assassination attempts. Strong women in such situations leave, do not try to return the man. There, Nigar-kalf has a stronger character.Hurrem was strong when she was ready to drink poison or run away from the palace, having learned about new slaves. A man who goes to the end, no matter what it threatens him with.
@@8730namdarmaneshshe believed in justice and didn't want Blood on her hands ,sadly in these Times what matters is to be smart and cunning not kind and Innocent
@@rsync9490 it was early on during Suleyman's reign but read it got shifted later. Maybe u r correct that it went their during time of Murad 3. But what I was trying to say was until Mustafa went to Sanjak with Mahidevran
@@muhammadtaimur1498 You are right about the marriage thing. In 1534 when Topkapi Harem was ready, Hürrem and the kids moved from Eski Saray. Hafsa died 1 year before and Mahidevran left with Mustafa. Bjt Suleyman planed anyways to move his harem to Topkapi. If the constructions were finished earlier Valide and Mahidevran would also move in there.
@@datminiplaysgames not really, it's allowed to get married this way in islam tho. So 2 people represent the bride and the groom for nikah. That's fine. And for the case they didnt ask hurrem or suleyman abt the nikah was bcs they definitely wanted to marry each other. And the concubine thing is also allowed in islam. Concubine = slave. You can have children with your female slaves. Slavery isnt prohibited in islam tho yet Allah commands us to free slaves
When living in a state where the winters are really cold, I would leave the water running in small stream. The pipes never froze up. It doesn't matter if it is cold water.
Sumbul Agha witnessing the union of Sultan Suleiman and Sultan Hurrem. Sumbul Agha might have played a significant role in ensuring the smooth execution of the event or perhaps provided crucial support to the couple in some way.
Maturity is when you develop the brains to realise this show is falsified and her real life Hürrem was the first Haseki and the only woman Suleiman was with until their death and Mahi was just a slave with a prince!
a lawful slave to his master. at that time Hurrem was free, because Sulaiman had freed her from her slave status. therefore Sulayman marries Hurrem in order to be together again.
Yes, it was one of the two times Mahi got called out for her drama. The other time was when Ibrahim finally refused to rescue her after she'd failed yet again.
Mahidevran Sultan is a forerunner for the exact expression and reaction of Ayse Sultan when Murad IV of tv series married fictional tv series princess Farya😅🙄
Interesting how the marriage ceremony is done behind gated windows. Also kinda sad for Mahidevran because she never became his legal wife. Id probably grieve just like her if my true love married someone else
Suleiman wasn't Mahidevran's true love. As a member of Prince Suleiman's harem, then later, Sultan Suleiman's harem, she knew that she wasn't the only woman he slept with or had children with. In the show, we learn he had at least one child with Gulfem that died, and in real life, he had three children before he had Mustafa with Mahidevran, all of whom died young. Obviously, the drama between her, Hurrem, and Suleiman is heightened for TV, but it probably was nowhere near that in reality. I don't doubt it was uncomfortable for women in the harem to have to share him with others, particularly if they developed feelings for him, but they also understood that their time with him was finite. The rule was, "One mother, one son" meaning, once you had a male child, the sultan didn't bring you to his chambers anymore. Hurrem obviously blew that out of the water because she had six children with him; in the show, we don't see Abdullah, but he died very young. She was obviously very, very different from other women in Ottoman history.
@@feverspell That is very interesting. Thank you for an explanation. I was wondering about one thing: when Hurrem was rejected to do Charity for sacred places Mecca and Medina because she was a slave (concubine), how did Mahidevran manage to do charity? Makhidevran doing charity basically triggered Hurrem to do the same, but I don't understand why it was allowed for Mahidevran but not for Hurrem even though both of them were considered slaves?
@@feverspell based on historical record, during his tenure as Saruhan Governor, Süleyman had 17 concubines and Mahidevran wasn't his highest consort that time. Mahidevran became Süleyman's highest rank consort in 1521 (Suleyman's early reign as sultan) when Süleyman's other sons died. But that year also when Mehmed was born, made Hürrem as Süleyman's senior concubine and her rank only below to Mahidevran.
@@keizelharf5393 Exactly! Mahi recived 4 aspers a day and his three other favorites named Yasemin, Hubeh and Server recived 5. But I am not sure when Hürrem exactly ouranked Mahidevran. Allready when she had Mihrimah or only after she had Selim?
Can someone explain to me why for the wedding ceremony, the bride is not present. I noticed the same thing when Ibrahim married Hatice, that he was there but she wasn’t, and in this case they listen in. I’m just curious for a more in-depth cultural and religious explanation on the Muslim wedding ceremony as shown in the show
Since no one whant to answer, it's because men and women are separated during the ceremonies and shall not come in contact to one another. A man's wife is uniquely his and shouldn't be seen by other men without her being covered.
Because, women who hasn't been married(virgens) before or has families are represented by proxy by the men in thier families(virgens should be married by proxy by men of the family means that the males who are the guards of her honor/hymen are so sure is pure that they are Marrying her) especially if they are strict and don't allow thier women to be seen by men, so because the ceremony didn't happen or end she couldn't see the groom and the shike and the witnesses (the shike and witnesses should always be Muslim men according to rules of islam). Now a days it is normal in many places to have the bride and groom in the ceremony without needing a proxy. But others prefer to do it because of tradition (like a father walking his daughter to the aisle in Western countries). Marrying by proxy caused many women to be married unwillingly through history, many others to die in crimes that is called honor killings because they didn't bleed in thier wedding day.
Mahi has 6 additional chins when she smiles and her face looks likes a zombie's at times. You are the blind one bruh. No to mention she is a greedy and bitter woman who never truly cared about Suleiman,she was fighting for power.
The only one who smiled back at Hürrem after Süleyman announced their solemnize, was Nigar.
I remember when she was the one who gave Hurrem a goal in her first day at the Harem, Nigar grabbed her aside and told her that she can be a Sultana, Hurrem had a reason to stay and fight at the Harem since that moment.
@@user-mm8ei9nx4o Nigar is neutral, she is kind hearted person that full fill her duty in harrem
Even Daye hatun was happy but didn't express bcoz she knows Valide Sultan did not like it.
@@mrinalraut7547 oh
S7ch a beautiful woman
I am so glad they took Zumbul-Aga to represent Hürrem. Not just because he was the main for the harrem, but also because they were great friends.
I loved that too
He was her greatest friend after Suleiman himself. You can see the depth of that friendship in the last episodes, so touching.
He was loyal and great friend too her and into Hürrum Sultan death
He is a terrific actor!!!!❤❤❤❤
Sümbul agha
I LOVE him grinning behind her at her uncontrollable giggles of excitement during the ceremony 🥰❤️
Yes, that was cute.
Yes, there's no laugh or giggle like a Hurrem giggle and laugh
@@mariakelly90210yeq0wtyoeyyoepy400wyryw0ywuwjyr0wy 19:26 m
I love this episode. Hurrem withdrew her plan to have Ibrahim killed after seeing how sad and worried Hatice was, chose to be quiet while Mahidevran was teasing her, did not do anything even after learning that a concubine was sent to Suleiman's chamber. In the end, it was an unexpected victory for her! She remained respectful and sincere. And I liked how she delivered her lines to Mahidevran. Soft but piercing.
Thats great revenge ever for mahidevran...😂
Whats there to like about Hurrem hurting and teasing Mahidevran? Hurrem has no INNER beauty. Ppl who have no class hurt others.🙄
Nothing was soft. Yes, she was smiling, but triumphant at the same time. And her expectation of congratulations from Mahidevran is completely mocking her to the end ... it is clear that her opponent is crushed, she is in a swoon. Hurrem would be silent, at least at first, but no, he also adds nervousness with his behavior.
@@yeshonestly4268At first, Hurrem attacked by Mahi. (according to this series)
@@fariyaafroz7608you mean mahi attacked by hurrem and lost her baby watch from ep 1
I wish the writers made Hafsa like she really was. A loving kind lady who cared only for her son's happiness and she treated Hürrem and Mahidevran the same. Hürrem and Hafsa had a cordial relationship
He also didn't marry Hurrem until after she died. No one could outrank the sultans mother. Hurrem also didn't have to bow to his sisters. When hafsa was dead and they were married she outranked everyone.
Well, if they did if wouldn't attract so many viewers. But they really went overboard. At least they could follow the real historic timeline as they married after Hafsa's passing.
They do show it in the play later on
Well, they also made Hürrem evil, while there are no evidences that she was ever included in any killing, especially in Mustapfa's one.
Nobody knows if Hafsa was nice or a witch. Nobody knows if Hürrem was nice or a witch. We only know 5 sentences in letters and nobody knows if they were written with a political motive. Y’all act like Hafsa is your neighbor… The woman died 400 + years ago and besides her being Selim’s concubine and Suleyman’s mother we know exactly zero things about her.
Gulfem lost her child with Suleiman and she was put aside. Mahidevran expected sympathy from her? It would be the same as Hurrem asking for Mahidevran's sympathy when Firuze appeared in Suleiman's life... Or even worse because Gulfem wasn't even lucky enough to have her child alive at that time.
Yes and we never saw Gulfem whine and complain a wery classy women
What is the Firuze subplot?
@@rhaeviserrang898 she was a concubine who becomes suleimans favourite later on in the series, where he starts to only spend Thursday nights with hurrem, but later on she is revealed to be a spy, and thrown out of the palace, after that no other women comes in suleimans life.
@@richajain7753but princess Isabella
Gulfem started the mess when she poked Mahidevron about Hurrem in the first few episodes. She was cast aside for Mahidevron, Mahidevron was cast aside for Hurrem. Gulfem fanned the flame of jealousy and coasted til the end.
this had to be Hurrem's biggest victory
love how she shows class
what class are you talking about? She's got the cheapest crown look ever... Even Valide was surprised how cheap Hurrem was...
@@anastasialem6866 if u wnna write a hate comment then y r u even watching this?
@@ahanyalama2724 if you're here because you only want to write a comment below my comment, then why are you even asking? An opinion is an opinion even if you consider it as a hate comment.
@@anastasialem6866 coming from kidnapped & slavery she become huge its her victory
I don't think gloating is a classy move. I dont like this about Hurrem. Asking Mahi to congratulate them was unnecessary.
"I wish I died and didn't see today"
How ironic is that line lol since historically they married AFTER Valide died
it's situationally Ironic, because you're correct. According to history, Suleyman and Hurrem married AFTER his mother had passed away as per her wishes.
Well myb bcz Noth really happened like the series and it upset me cuz suleyman is one of the strongest and smartest figures I the history of ottoman empire and they destroyed his image
The shock on Ibrahim's face when he learns that Suleiman is going to marry Hurrem 😈 Valide should have listened to Hurrem in the beginning when she begged her to release her
I always find it funny, the scene when Hurrem asks Mahi if she will congratulate their marriage. Suleiman's face is like "🙄You don't really have to rub it in her face... ", but he's also not saying anything, just letting his new wife gloat lol...
no, he was just giggling to himself. He obviously loved the fact that Hurrem was fiery. :)))
He didn't roll his eyes.....it was more a look up with a half grin as if to say "hmmm let's see how you respond to that". He was quietly approving what was asked.
He was well please with hurrem for that question ... as a punishment for mahi past behavior of poisoning of their food.
No way, Oh please 😂The man is the kind who would ask something like that himself. If Hurrem didn't, he definitely would have made some sort of comment 😂
He fears his wife
I love how Suleiman's smile slowly disappears when valide isn't showing happiness for them
I know it’s not historically accurate, but I still love this show.
But about the wedding it's real
@@mamahalif7343 I read Suleiman married Hurrem after her death? I started watching this show back in 2015, but it was very difficult to find TRUE historical reports.
@@kapioleilanionalanielua Sulaiman married Hurrem when Valide sultan is passed away.. in this series just to make more dramatic
@@mamahalif7343 Thank you!
@@kapioleilanionalanielua youre welcome
Nigar is the only person who are smiling after the solemnize announcement. Hurem has a lot of rivals and they're ain't happy to see her married to suleyman. but I'm with hurem.🤗
And hurrem wore that ring till her last breath 💗
I'm so glad that Sumbul Agha was at the wedding!
What gets me is that Hurrem just wanted Valide to be fair, yet her and Mahi created the threat they were so afraid of. If they just left her alone I doubt the marriage would have even happened.
They had to portray the marriage in the series because historically it happened. But they married after Valide Hafsa Sultan passed away and Mahidevran had been in Manisa for about two years with Mustafa. Of course, for drama and money sake they butchered real and great historical characters.
10/10 acting this series eclipses the acting of any mainstream movie or show I have seen. Even just a simple conversation can convey such powerful emotions it's hard to remember that it's a show and not reality!
It’s ironic to me when mahidevran is sobbing in front of gulfem and saying ‘as usual you don’t care about my pain’ meanwhile mahidevran took suleiman from Gulfem 🤣🤦🏻♀️
In all honesty, she did the exact same thing to Gulfem and gloated about it for years. She made sure that Gulfem never got a chance to have another child. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't kill Gulfem's son. Only the could Mustafa be safe and become the Sultan. No one ever found it strange with the dozens of women he had around, and with her having the most furtile night, why didn't he have more children than just with her and Hurrem? That would definitely be odd. Hurrem became a brilliant strategist. If they had treated civilly, they may have lived longer. And Gulfem isn't as innocent as she appears. All the time, she had no child yet stayed in the higher ranks by looking pitiful and attaching herself to those she felt had power. She was in the middle of it all and against Hurrem until she almost died. I do believe she did love his other kids, though. At least Mustafa and Mehmed anyway. She bidded her time until she could try her revenge against Sulemon. She did more manipulation behind the scenes I bet.
Gulfem was the last person who was beside Sultan at his last breath
@@SaminaAlia the first and the last...with Sultan..
@@lisamonteleone13 as per the show gulfem was a good friend of hatice and she was so close to valide Sultana.. she had her share of grudge with mahidevran and hurrem and she showed in her words with mahidevran when mahi goes overboard.. she never left her rank until hurrem got married and moved her.. it's shown in nigar's marriage sequence were hurrem wears her crown first time.. hurrem brilliance and charm got her everything she wished.. iconic character..
@@lisamonteleone13 he had other children before mustafa and they all died in a sickness but after that yeah i thought it wierd too
IN MY VIEW
The casting could not have been more perfect!
I have always loved Suleiman and Hurrem together.❤
I love how much Hurrem is glowing ❤
Yeah she is extremely beautiful I am also her great fan ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
She is sooo beautiful among the women there. If I were the sultan, I would also fall in love with her beauty.
So… Cihangir is the only child who was born in wedding bond ?
Hurrem sultan wins!!!! That's her third biggest victory in series, looking forward for episode 63 and the ultimate victory in 123!!
He can't do this without valide Sultan’s permission..
@@tashfiarahman9600 yea she can
If hurrem and ibrahim were allies, the family would have lived happily ever after. Ibrahim wouldn't have died, Mustafa would slowly start understanding hurrem and there would be no death
They are unhappy but they made her she was never protected so she learnt that more power will protect her. They made her and they have to live with what they made.
They bullied her they were like you will service the king!11! and then they got mad that she...serves the king? Talk about lacking foresight.
True love.. nobody can be like you my haseki hurrem sultana..
Hurrem was a real survivor. Captured as a slave, taken to an unfamiliar country, culture, and religion, and planted in a bed of vipers.
An astounding rise and accomplishments.
She rose from a captured slave who was taken to unknown lands, to become the Sultan’s legal wife and Ottoman Empress.
I wish that Magnificent century stayed closer to the historical facts, as Hurrem’s story is already great on its own.
I felt so happy fof her in this episode! She triumphed over those that tried to keep her down.
He only married Hürrem after his mother's death. He adored his mother and he owed her a lot. Given his character, it would not have been possible for him to do that to his mother.
Hafsa and hurrem had a great relationship
In history Valide Sultan loved and supported Hurrem
@@gunescelik4207 I have never read that from any historian. Shortly before Valide's death, they were probably more of a community of convenience to protect the empire and the Sultan himself from the power-drunk Ibrahim.
@@siggisn7885absolutely agree. We can only speculate what the relationship between Hurrem and Valide Sultan was. No one was ever allowed in the Harem and most of what we know is from thirdy party sources, mostly ambassadors and foreigners, who again relied on other sources. Valide Hafsa is said to have been a very loving mother and her only concern was the well being of his son. Even if she didn't agree with Hurrem having multiple children or Suleyman supposed faithfulness, she would never ever try to kill her.
And yes, the power drunk Ibrahim was a much bigger concern around that time. But Suleyman, the real one, handled it very well. Ibrahim stepped over the line and burned to the ground.
The saddest part is Mustafa's little face falling. He loves his siblings because they told him the last time his mom was pregnant that the baby boy knew he didnt want a brother, so he decided not to come, His mom was always lying and sobbing and he had to bear the blunt of it. Hurrem hated that look on his face, too. If they had executed her when she beat Hurrem or when she posioned her, Hurrem would have raised Mustafa as her own, and then maybe they would have had long lives together and peace. Hurrem never allowed her kids to disrespect her even if she tried to get Mustafa to get rid of Hurrem over and over. It would have been likely that Selim would have been the only dead sibling.
Хюрем своих то детей не смогла правильно воспитать ей некогда было она каждый божий день напрягала свою голову как бы кого отравить оболгать уничтожить
It’s like my wedding, mother in law hated me hahaha! But I gave him two boys, the only ones in the family. That really made them angry and none came to see me or the babies. But I did not care, my family and husband rejoiced!
From what century did u come from
@@luneluna307 in many parts Africa having male children is a essential to keeping a husband's love and attention and in-laws happy. Else the woman is replaced with one who can produce children especially sons. Sad but true
@@nka8786 Replaced? What do you meant by that? What happens to the wife and her children?
@@waitaminutewhat6210 The woman is sent out with kids and the ex husband pays for the children's upkeep. He then brings on the new wife who will give him the son. In most cases the side chic is already pregnant with a male child so he brings her in to make her his wife
@@nka8786 How would they know that it's a male? What if it's a girl? What happens then? I'm sorry to bombard you with so many questions... I'm just curious 🫣
Сколько поклонников у этого сериала. А ведь, казалось бы, всего лишь " гаремные сказки", но как они нас все захватили
I love when Valide faints
It's her signature move lol
😂😂😂
But she's the only one who ever faints and isn't pregnant
Signature move lmao!
They must teach that at the Harem training school
Hafsa faints, Mahi fainted, Hurrem fainted. Everyone just be fainting over there 😂😂
Congratulations to the newlyweds 🎉🎉
The queen mother was already dead in real life when they got married.
fantastic actors. i watch this over and over!
Amazing, look everyone how mahidevil ran to hafsa again to help her against hurrem sultan, look.
I never liked series like this but acting here is so good unreal !
Happy for hurrem and Suleiman, but so sad for Mahidevran and mustafa watching his mother suffer 💔💔💔
Them letting him be raised by her was part of his down fakl she was still so bitter even after years she would not stop openly being wounded and letting her son see her that way surely poisoned his heart
12:59 Well said Gülfem
No doubt... She deserves this..!!!
👑👑👰👰👑👑
The look on Suleyman’s face slowly shifting when nobody says Congratulations…
He knows that not everyone likes Hurrem and knows everything they do to her.
Mahidevaran..Was strong woman She desired the life to live with Suleiman but hurrem lived that life with Suleiman..She took fight from hurrem.from day one and always Wanted to put hurrem down..and always paid a very heavy price for her cheap actions..Lost Suleiman's favour,Lost her son Mustafa...She started using Mustafa as her sheild when she couldn't defeat hurrem...
She wasn't strong at all. All her ways of fighting are scandals, tantrums and assassination attempts. Strong women in such situations leave, do not try to return the man. There, Nigar-kalf has a stronger character.Hurrem was strong when she was ready to drink poison or run away from the palace, having learned about new slaves. A man who goes to the end, no matter what it threatens him with.
That's the biggest weakness. Poor joy he got caught in the crossfire. And was suspected by his own father!
Hurrem burn maria, and she throw out one concubines, kill isabella
Mahidevran was not strong like Hurrem.She could have killed her just like hurrem killed all her rivals.
@@8730namdarmaneshshe believed in justice and didn't want Blood on her hands ,sadly in these Times what matters is to be smart and cunning not kind and Innocent
Fact is, Sultan didn't marry Hurrem when his mother was alive or when Mahidevran was in Topkapi.
Wasn't the harem in a different location in this time period? I thought a later sultan(probably Murad III) brought the harem to Topkapi.
@@rsync9490 it was early on during Suleyman's reign but read it got shifted later. Maybe u r correct that it went their during time of Murad 3.
But what I was trying to say was until Mustafa went to Sanjak with Mahidevran
@@muhammadtaimur1498 You are right about the marriage thing. In 1534 when Topkapi Harem was ready, Hürrem and the kids moved from Eski Saray. Hafsa died 1 year before and Mahidevran left with Mustafa. Bjt Suleyman planed anyways to move his harem to Topkapi. If the constructions were finished earlier Valide and Mahidevran would also move in there.
Nit picker!
@@mariakelly90210it's not nitpicking. Only trying to inform people of the real history.
This not how Muslims Marry they didn't even ask the bride or groom instead they asked the witness like where it happened or how is this a nikah.
It's falsely based on culture not Islam
Even it's Haram for men to have concubines in Islam. Yet in this shows they still show something like this
@@datminiplaysgames its ok if they are not muslim
@@datminiplaysgames LOL, in Islam jariyahs are allowed.
@@datminiplaysgames not really, it's allowed to get married this way in islam tho. So 2 people represent the bride and the groom for nikah. That's fine. And for the case they didnt ask hurrem or suleyman abt the nikah was bcs they definitely wanted to marry each other.
And the concubine thing is also allowed in islam. Concubine = slave. You can have children with your female slaves. Slavery isnt prohibited in islam tho yet Allah commands us to free slaves
6:52 I hope nigar can always b hurrem best friend.....but love is blind.....nigar willing to betray hurrem because of Ibrahim...yasak
Rivalry in the harem is brutal on everyone.
It is a life and death struggle in the harem.
Love the white dress and the veil she looks stunning truly ❤
IF ONLY they all rested their schemes and mischief after Hurrem's wedding. If only...
There are very strong side eyes in this show, and I love it!
Mahidevran is a snake. The way she talked to Gulfem is shameful considering Gulfem went through so much more. Gulfem is the best of them all.
I missed the previous subtitle that Mahidevran said to Gulfem "You don't give a flying fludge"
Just think how different everything would have been if they'd celebrated the marriage.
They literally hated her simply because he didn't want Mahidiveran anymore.
I see no lies!!!!
When living in a state where the winters are really cold, I would leave the water running in small stream. The pipes never froze up. It doesn't matter if it is cold water.
What does this comment have to do with this episode? Rather out of place.
This series remains my best
Wanting Gulfem to feel sorry for her.....she did the same to her
He really loves her it's her eyes he fallen deep into the love
Sumbul Agha witnessing the union of Sultan Suleiman and Sultan Hurrem. Sumbul Agha might have played a significant role in ensuring the smooth execution of the event or perhaps provided crucial support to the couple in some way.
You can just feel the happiness and joy in that room. Not one of them has a poker face.
I loved the diplomat advisor of the Sultan ...originar from Prague...like calm, fizionomy very autentic
I jus loved this scene, even i was so happy while watching
the level of emotional manipulation is serious
Maturity is when you realise Sultan Suleiman was the main culprit
LooL.. Killed me😂😂
Exactly
Maturity is when you develop the brains to realise this show is falsified and her real life Hürrem was the first Haseki and the only woman Suleiman was with until their death and Mahi was just a slave with a prince!
He really showed no thought for how his actions affected anyone.
@@teaonrainyday888Can we say this louder for the people who don't believe it.
Hurrem is smart because in Islam a couple cannot commit adultery and must marry, making Suleyman change his own rules. She deserves it.
a lawful slave to his master. at that time Hurrem was free, because Sulaiman had freed her from her slave status. therefore Sulayman marries Hurrem in order to be together again.
I love Ibrahim saying is it about me?😅😂😅😂
Suleiman: Yes My dear beloved🫦🤣🤣
love Gulfem's reply to Mahidevran
Yes, it was one of the two times Mahi got called out for her drama. The other time was when Ibrahim finally refused to rescue her after she'd failed yet again.
And also, way to go Gulfem.
Mahidevran Sultan is a forerunner for the exact expression and reaction of Ayse Sultan when Murad IV of tv series married fictional tv series princess Farya😅🙄
Interesting how the marriage ceremony is done behind gated windows. Also kinda sad for Mahidevran because she never became his legal wife. Id probably grieve just like her if my true love married someone else
Suleiman wasn't Mahidevran's true love. As a member of Prince Suleiman's harem, then later, Sultan Suleiman's harem, she knew that she wasn't the only woman he slept with or had children with. In the show, we learn he had at least one child with Gulfem that died, and in real life, he had three children before he had Mustafa with Mahidevran, all of whom died young. Obviously, the drama between her, Hurrem, and Suleiman is heightened for TV, but it probably was nowhere near that in reality. I don't doubt it was uncomfortable for women in the harem to have to share him with others, particularly if they developed feelings for him, but they also understood that their time with him was finite.
The rule was, "One mother, one son" meaning, once you had a male child, the sultan didn't bring you to his chambers anymore. Hurrem obviously blew that out of the water because she had six children with him; in the show, we don't see Abdullah, but he died very young. She was obviously very, very different from other women in Ottoman history.
@@feverspell That is very interesting. Thank you for an explanation. I was wondering about one thing: when Hurrem was rejected to do Charity for sacred places Mecca and Medina because she was a slave (concubine), how did Mahidevran manage to do charity? Makhidevran doing charity basically triggered Hurrem to do the same, but I don't understand why it was allowed for Mahidevran but not for Hurrem even though both of them were considered slaves?
@@molinodeviento8598 Mahidevran's charity wasn't placet at Mecca or Medina, so its still allowed
@@feverspell based on historical record, during his tenure as Saruhan Governor, Süleyman had 17 concubines and Mahidevran wasn't his highest consort that time. Mahidevran became Süleyman's highest rank consort in 1521 (Suleyman's early reign as sultan) when Süleyman's other sons died. But that year also when Mehmed was born, made Hürrem as Süleyman's senior concubine and her rank only below to Mahidevran.
@@keizelharf5393 Exactly! Mahi recived 4 aspers a day and his three other favorites named Yasemin, Hubeh and Server recived 5. But I am not sure when Hürrem exactly ouranked Mahidevran. Allready when she had Mihrimah or only after she had Selim?
Hurrem truly won that day❤
Boy howdy! Check and mate!
12:22 Would someone PLEASE give Mahidrivan a Xanax?
Congratulations Suleiman and Hurrem! 🎊🥳🎉
I watches many of episods and before and it seems to me that Hurrem was a real villain of her time in the Harem and castle
Yes indeed, and so, she survived and gained power, therefore safety.
What was Hurrem’s rank after marrying the Sultan? Was she ranked above everyone else?
Yes, except the valide.
Yes,as she was the sultan's legal wife,after marriage she automatically became a part of the dynasty
Success for Baginda Sulaiman Hurrem❤😊
2:48 from this moment atleast, Ibrahim should have realised that hurrem is important to sultan. He could have stand by on hurrem side instead of mahi
Idk. Was Hurrem crying or laughing at Sumbul Agha being there?
12:49 straight facts even tho i love mahi
She deserve happiness.
Why? Isn’t she the one who killed Mustafa? The most eligible to become Emperor
@@tithicooks3325no. That was Ibrahim himself. His greed and arrogance overtook his soul
best serials ever! how come not shown on Europe properly?!
It was shown in Hungary
They shouldent argue infront of the kids
Can someone explain to me why for the wedding ceremony, the bride is not present. I noticed the same thing when Ibrahim married Hatice, that he was there but she wasn’t, and in this case they listen in. I’m just curious for a more in-depth cultural and religious explanation on the Muslim wedding ceremony as shown in the show
Google must help you
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Since no one whant to answer, it's because men and women are separated during the ceremonies and shall not come in contact to one another. A man's wife is uniquely his and shouldn't be seen by other men without her being covered.
Because, women who hasn't been married(virgens) before or has families are represented by proxy by the men in thier families(virgens should be married by proxy by men of the family means that the males who are the guards of her honor/hymen are so sure is pure that they are Marrying her) especially if they are strict and don't allow thier women to be seen by men, so because the ceremony didn't happen or end she couldn't see the groom and the shike and the witnesses (the shike and witnesses should always be Muslim men according to rules of islam). Now a days it is normal in many places to have the bride and groom in the ceremony without needing a proxy. But others prefer to do it because of tradition (like a father walking his daughter to the aisle in Western countries). Marrying by proxy caused many women to be married unwillingly through history, many others to die in crimes that is called honor killings because they didn't bleed in thier wedding day.
Women don't decide their marriage. Male members decide based on how many goats and camels they get. It's just like trading cattle
Even Gulfem has had enough of Mahidevran's wynning
Mahidevran is stunning in this episode... Suleyman is a real blind😂
Not everything is about looks tho
Mahi has 6 additional chins when she smiles and her face looks likes a zombie's at times. You are the blind one bruh. No to mention she is a greedy and bitter woman who never truly cared about Suleiman,she was fighting for power.
The only one who is actually happy with this alliance is nigar 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hurrem evil smile and make one cry a bucket of tears 😂😂😂😂
She is really beautiful actually ❤😍
Mahiderva 😢cry baby like always
Crying doesn't make anyone weak or crybaby
A perfect series that shows the pursuit of the Power of Hurrem ❤️
Although I don't like hurrem, I am glad that she became a free woman. I think this was the pain for the palace.
Mahidevran used to cry on every issue rather than focusing on her son"s future.
Sultan Sulaiman warned his bestie to respect Hurrem. But he decided to against it. And what happened to Ibrahim 😊
What episode is this
Hurrem destroyed mahidevan ' reputation..planned all the way
Mahidevran cared only about herself..
She cared for Mustafa more than for herself
Hafsa sultan was a concubine herself to Sultan Selim Yavuz
Mihrimah Hurrem and Suleiman s daughter was 11 or 12 when her parents married and the child who player her looks like 7 or 8 years old
Both are too adorable truly mashaaAllah especially the sultan ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I want to know The Gulfem and Mahideveran story
Kjo eshte pjesa me e bukur. Nuk jam ndjekese e telenovelave ,por kete telenovele e kam ndjekur per personazhin Hyrrem.
11:15 sultan must have stopped hurrem to insult Mahidevran😢
Hahahahahaha! No he shouldn’t! Cryy