I've been searching for more videos too as I just bought this tent. Let me know if you find any and your initial impressions please! I've been worried I should have paid more $$$ for a lighter weight but I still think 3lbs 11oz isn't terrible...?
Beautiful B roll at the beginning and end of the video. Makes me wanna go backpacking. I have been watching videos for about 4 years now, still have not taken the plunge.
In the world of camping gear, I know a lot can change in a couple years. I'm looking for a lightweight backpacking tent that can sleep 3 with 25" sleeping pads. It is really hard to find anything unless I go up to a 4-person tent. I'm looking at the Copper Spur for that reason and saw this video. I have been enjoying your content and would appreciate your insight. Do you know of any 3-person backpacking tents that are at least 75" wide or what 4-person tent would you suggest?
Are you on the beaten path? You are in my back yard! We were supposed to go last year but switched trails. Sounds like it’s going to be closed to the full hike for awhile due to flooding and washed out bridges.
I have the Tiger Wall 2 Platinum. The tent + dyneema stuff sack + fly + poles + cordage comes out to 2 lbs 1 oz on my scale (I believe they advertise 2 lb 4 oz). Great tent. Not a lot of storage inside.
Im planning on buying a version of the Big House 4 with the full fly. I was going to go with a Kelty Wireless 6 but this model of the Big House is discontinued and on sale for a great price. I just do car camping.
I had a BA Copper Spur UL2 for about 5 years and it got a 3-4" tear in the mesh of one of the doors. Sent it back to BA to be repaired. They couldn't repair it, so they sent me back a brand new one! Big Agnes is amazing!
Using my Copper Spur in North Wales, it blew down in a storm and snapped a pole, replacement sections are not available at the moment in the UK, contacted Big Agnes and they sent me a pole section from Wisconson free of charge. Great company.
I wish my BA customer service experience was as good as some of the others in the comments. The zipper on my Copper Spur UL1 rainfly broke on the 2nd day of use. Sent it to Big Agnes and they say they cant repair it but would sell me a new rain fly for just under $200 which is robbery considering I paid only about $100 more for the original tent. Really disappointing experience
My favorite part about Big Agnes is their warranty and repair service. I had a zipper go out on my tent and I could send it in for repair. In the end, they could not repair it and they ended up replacing my tent with a new one.
I’ve been using BA tents for years, along with other brands, and they’ve held up really well. I always set it up at home following a trip, will clean up a bit, and let air dry before repacking. Works great for me!
I have the tigerwall 2p and the copper spur 2p being delivered soon. Looking forward to trying them both out and seeing which one I prefer. Right now I'm leaning towards the copper spur.
should u buy a big agnes tent? "yes!' i've had a Copper spur ul3 - amazing tent for the past 7 years at least? One of the best camping buys i've ever made.
Recently bought a Big Agnes Sheep Mountain 3. It's sort of heavy but it's tough and built to last, simple design, sets up quickly. Can confirm the customer service is very good! I had a bunch of questions before purchasing that I sent via email and they took care of me same day. Glad to see that others have had similar experiences and that the company stands behind their products.
Love your content could you recommend a backpacking tent for a married couple that would fit 2 of the low profile lightweight cots does that even exist...
My husband and I are new backpackers. We are both tall and on the large size. We were looking at a BA 2 person tent. Do you think it would be too small?
It’s a bit cramped but doable if you keep your gear in the vestibules. I’ve used a 2p with my wife and it’s been fine. But a 3p will have more wiggle room and you can split the weight between the two of you.
Just curious the tiger wall looks so light and almost translucent I would have hard time falling asleep, ba bike version is a darker grey color but is not available in reg version is it an issue , im sure you don't sleep in while backpacking but would be nice once in a while
I have just passed the 11 days of GR20 with my 2370 g 2 P tent (not saying which brand) some days of wind 100 km/h and even (official Corsica/France meteorology office) up to 180 km/h wind strikes... how are BA tents wind resistant?
I got the Scout 2 Carbon. I fabbed the rear pole, made a footprint, ditched the stakes (which are worthless in the Sierra) and replaced them with pads (circles of tarp material), and use BOTH of my poles to prop up the front so I don't have to dodge to get out, and added a second front guy for the same reason. All in all, with a bag to hold it all, 22 oz. I do not actually use a tent unless it is raining, so light is right.
So...looking to buy 2 tents in the near future, and pretty sure I'll stick with BA. Will by a standard Tiger Wall 3-person for camping with my partner; the decision now is for myself. Trying to go UL... there's the Scout Carbon...and now the Tiger Wall 2 Carbon. The Tiger Wall is 7 oz heavier and $200 or 300 more expensive, but just a better, more comfortable tent (and fewer stakes). Any thoughts or comparative experiences, anyone?
BA rocks and has great customer service. I have three of their tents in my gear stable: a Tiger Wall UL 2 for solo BPing, a Copper Sur 3 for when I’m out with the wife or just one of my teenage kids, and a Flying Diamond 8 for car camping with the entire family (6 of us). Love their sleep systems as well.
I have the Tiger Wall 2 and a Jack Rabbit3, I think that's what it's called. I purchased both tents on sale at REI. I paid 300.for my Tiger Wall and I use it solo. The Jack Rabbit is not the lightest tent but I split the weight with my daughter so it's fine. For me the Tiger Wall has made solo trips much more doable. I have a Granite Gear 38 L pack and a Western Mountaineering ultra 20 bag along with a bunch of other light gear. I am in my 60s so pack weight means alot. I am still doing the same or more mileage as I did 30 years ago because my pack is so much lighter. Someday I will pull the trigger on a Zpack big three. Take care. Nice channel and content, thanks. Update, pulled the trigger on a Zpacks Duplex and I love it. I took it on my hike of the Long Trail in Vermont and it’s a palace for my dog and I. Super easy to set up and the tent material is not super thin like your BA. Well worth the money.
Love this video. I backpacked when I was a kid and your videos are getting me back into it. I’m 57 years old and banged up but I think I can find some short distance hikes here in Southern Oregon.
Hi dan,how long did you use with the Ba copper spur ? I’m finding an tent for 2 to 3 days camping, so I want some suggest between Ba copper spur and msr hubba hubba, especially the life of them
Dan, you listed the scout carbon at 1lb 5oz and asked if it is infact the lightest 2p tent. The zpacks duplex is 1lb 4oz AND has 2 VESTIBULES AND HAS MESH lol
Good video. Thanks. Wife and I Just bought and used the copper spur 3 mtn glo last week in Colorado in all day rain at crater lake and woke up to snow ❄️ it performed very well.
I've used big Agnes tents for close to 20 years and love them, but I just took a Copper Spur out of storage (2 years) and the shock cord is totally shot!! It's so slack I can barely stuff it back into the poles to set it up.
I had a similar issue with my Copper Spur and BA replaced the cord and a couple of bent poles under warranty. The tent is over 3 years old and they fixed and replaced parts for free! Great service. Just create a repair report on their website.
I was desperate to have at least one BA item and the only thing I could afford was a sleeping quilt, which I love ! Can you say what tarp you were using here?
That tent really compares more to the tiger wall. Since they are both semi freestanding. But I would definitely take the tiger wall. The mountain hardware is really finicky to set up. It has very odd clip attachments to the poles. Other than that it’s a pretty good tent. But again my vote is the tiger wall.
I've been using my Big Agnes UlL Scout 2 for years and love it. It's a single wall as well but that has been my only gripe. Great video Dan. I did spy that St Croix rod strapped to your pack though. Are you a fly guy or a spin fishing guy. You should do a video on your camping fishing gear.
Are you aware of any B.A. models that require, or benefit from after-market seam sealing of rain fly, (with the sealer for Sil-Nylon of course)? When new, and/or after a few uses?
Hey Dan! Looking for the best lightest 4 person family backpacking tent, so far I see the “Big Agnus Copper Spur HV UL4 Tent 4 person and 3 season” that is only 5lbs 8 oz for a 4 person tent! Do you think this is the best light family backpacking tent option for 4 person or do you think there is a better one? I have a wife and 3 small kiddos to stuff in there. It’s not cheap at $650. Thanks!
Definitely. I would say that’s probably at the top of my list for a tent that large and at that weight. Definitely expensive though! Alternative would be a couple of 2 person tents. Something less expensive and a bit heavier that you could buy two of. Paria Outdoor Products sells some pretty decent tents that are very expensive for what they are.
Tx Dan. Appreciate the info.
Nice commercial
i just bought the BA salt creek sl2 and theres like no videos on it but it looks sweet
I've been searching for more videos too as I just bought this tent. Let me know if you find any and your initial impressions please! I've been worried I should have paid more $$$ for a lighter weight but I still think 3lbs 11oz isn't terrible...?
Prices ? Can you purchase in UK 🇬🇧?
Cheers Dan 👍
What is that snow camo sleeping bag he shows for a second inside the tiger wall? You can see it at like 7:06
You can find it here. The print is called a hexcam. 👉 ugqoutdoor.com/top-quilts/bandit/?ref=2098
is the super bivy rain proof?
Thanks man for your reviews but it would be nice that we talk about waterproof also i don't see a lot of this on TH-cam.
Check out this video.. th-cam.com/video/HzktQBzrSQw/w-d-xo.html
Thinking of buying a Big Agnes copper spur hv ul2 for motorcycle camping 🛵🏕 or a Msr hubba hubba which in your opinion is the best
How do the BA tents hold up to dogs nails?
Borrowed them out? Lent?
Here in Europe they don’t have BA carbon at all..
Woah using a tarp like that as a place to hang out is brilliant! Very cool man
Which tent would you recommend for a motorcycle/bike camper?
What’s your opinion on them compared to Nemo I’m in the market for a two person
so basically get a 3 person tent so theres enough room for me the missus and then we would have space to throw the rest of our gear inside?
This is good to hear. I just ordered a fly creek hv ul2. Looking forward to lugging that around until I find a different tent to obsess over haha
Beautiful B roll at the beginning and end of the video. Makes me wanna go backpacking. I have been watching videos for about 4 years now, still have not taken the plunge.
I WISH backpacking like that was possible in my country.. But everything is flat and boring with strict rules about camping.
In the world of camping gear, I know a lot can change in a couple years. I'm looking for a lightweight backpacking tent that can sleep 3 with 25" sleeping pads. It is really hard to find anything unless I go up to a 4-person tent. I'm looking at the Copper Spur for that reason and saw this video. I have been enjoying your content and would appreciate your insight. Do you know of any 3-person backpacking tents that are at least 75" wide or what 4-person tent would you suggest?
Are you on the beaten path? You are in my back yard! We were supposed to go last year but switched trails. Sounds like it’s going to be closed to the full hike for awhile due to flooding and washed out bridges.
How did you set up the minifly with? Trekking poles?
BA nice tents but I think Hilleberg are the best.
I have the Tiger Wall 2 Platinum. The tent + dyneema stuff sack + fly + poles + cordage comes out to 2 lbs 1 oz on my scale (I believe they advertise 2 lb 4 oz). Great tent. Not a lot of storage inside.
Im planning on buying a version of the Big House 4 with the full fly. I was going to go with a Kelty Wireless 6 but this model of the Big House is discontinued and on sale for a great price. I just do car camping.
That Scout 2 Carbon tent looks to me like a big cellophane bivy sack lol.
Big Agnes Copper Spur for the win for me!
Hvul1?
I had a BA Copper Spur UL2 for about 5 years and it got a 3-4" tear in the mesh of one of the doors. Sent it back to BA to be repaired. They couldn't repair it, so they sent me back a brand new one! Big Agnes is amazing!
That one fact may be why I'd buy big games tents..a company that cares about their customers is worth spending extra money on.
Big Agnes...(dang spellcheck..🤦♂️).
I've heard this from so many people. Big Agnes has a great reputation for customer service.
Using my Copper Spur in North Wales, it blew down in a storm and snapped a pole, replacement sections are not available at the moment in the UK, contacted Big Agnes and they sent me a pole section from Wisconson free of charge. Great company.
I sewed my mesh tear .. good as new
I got a B.A. copper spur 4 years ago and the shock cord in the poles completely lost the stretch!
Scout. 👍😎🇨🇦
I just found a Big Agnes Seedhouse SL1, brand new never used and it was packed inside of a brand new 20L dry bag at Goodwill for $6.99! 😁
I wish my BA customer service experience was as good as some of the others in the comments. The zipper on my Copper Spur UL1 rainfly broke on the 2nd day of use. Sent it to Big Agnes and they say they cant repair it but would sell me a new rain fly for just under $200 which is robbery considering I paid only about $100 more for the original tent. Really disappointing experience
You can use an umbrella 🌂 as a vestibule I've been doing it for awhile works well with my dynemma tarp with a beak.
My favorite part about Big Agnes is their warranty and repair service. I had a zipper go out on my tent and I could send it in for repair. In the end, they could not repair it and they ended up replacing my tent with a new one.
Thanks Dan
Would love to see how you take care of your gear after backpacking trips!
I’ve been using BA tents for years, along with other brands, and they’ve held up really well. I always set it up at home following a trip, will clean up a bit, and let air dry before repacking. Works great for me!
My guess is that he cleans it…
I have the tigerwall 2p and the copper spur 2p being delivered soon. Looking forward to trying them both out and seeing which one I prefer. Right now I'm leaning towards the copper spur.
I prefer Nemo tents they just seem slightly higher quality to me
should u buy a big agnes tent? "yes!' i've had a Copper spur ul3 - amazing tent for the past 7 years at least? One of the best camping buys i've ever made.
You ever hiked the cdt or seen grizzly bears ever ?
My wife and I just backpacked 5 days through the Beartooth mountain last week.
Sir that tent that you used in this video is not a tent its a cocoon. It is so sheer! Mind blown!
😂😂
Borrowed out to some people is Wisconsinese for loaned out. German based languages don't differentiate borrowed and loaned.
Have you had any issues with the TipLocks breaking on the copper spur?
I bought a BA on a whim once, it’s hands down my favorite tent ever.
nice video, 3 of the tents I'm intrested in side by side
ughh can never decide, need one of each
Dan Becker.. the YT Hiking Gear advertising machine!!!
I crammed 3 people in a 2 person tent last weekend and it was squishy but perfectly fine. Definitely warm 😅
What do you call the tarp structure in the middle of your campsite with all the chairs under it? I have brought tarps but never with poles like that.
Porch mode
I have the Copper spur HV UL 2P in green ish and it’s far and away the best iv ever had. Copper spur HV UL 2P 4 life!
Love my BA old style Tiger Wall UL2.
I literally just bought the tiger wall UL2 last night. So excited. Keep up the great vids!
I have it. Used it in February in Connecticut doing a AT section. Snow on the ground, packed down the snow and set her up. Great tent.
Where is the Marmot Super Alloy?
Gave it to my editor. He loves it! It’s a great tent.
what a salesman :D just love the way you plug things. well done. laidback and informative
😂👍 Thanks! But I honestly was not paid a single penny to make this video. I just really like big Agnes!
Of those 4 I would go with the big and heavy one. Thanks
What’s a good backpack for a day use?
Recently bought a Big Agnes Sheep Mountain 3. It's sort of heavy but it's tough and built to last, simple design, sets up quickly.
Can confirm the customer service is very good! I had a bunch of questions before purchasing that I sent via email and they took care of me same day. Glad to see that others have had similar experiences and that the company stands behind their products.
Been using tiger wall ul3 for a year now and it’s done exceptionally well in all seasons
Ever used the black tail?
I love a big tarp..and I prefer to put the entrance to my tent right under the edge if we have the space for it..
20% or $20 off?
Love your content could you recommend a backpacking tent for a married couple that would fit 2 of the low profile lightweight cots does that even exist...
I literally *just* got my new BA tigerwall 2 on Saturday! it will be my home for 6 months on the AT!
Gotta love MT mountain weather, can snow on any day of the year 😉
How is that Rab Phantom, kinda off topic but really want to know! PS the Duplex is 19oz.
So nice. Just over 3 oz and has yet to wet thru. Just a pull over so no pockets or other features. Expensive though at around $200
My husband and I are new backpackers. We are both tall and on the large size. We were looking at a BA 2 person tent. Do you think it would be too small?
It’s a bit cramped but doable if you keep your gear in the vestibules. I’ve used a 2p with my wife and it’s been fine. But a 3p will have more wiggle room and you can split the weight between the two of you.
Thanks! I have my sights set on the new Fly Creek bikepacking tent for bikepacking. I think my backpacking days are done because of my knees.
This is all good to know as after many months I have finally narrowed my choice of tent down to a BA Copper spur bike edition.
Just curious the tiger wall looks so light and almost translucent I would have hard time falling asleep, ba bike version is a darker grey color but is not available in reg version is it an issue , im sure you don't sleep in while backpacking but would be nice once in a while
I have just passed the 11 days of GR20 with my 2370 g 2 P tent (not saying which brand) some days of wind 100 km/h and even (official Corsica/France meteorology office) up to 180 km/h wind strikes... how are BA tents wind resistant?
I got the Scout 2 Carbon. I fabbed the rear pole, made a footprint, ditched the stakes (which are worthless in the Sierra) and replaced them with pads (circles of tarp material), and use BOTH of my poles to prop up the front so I don't have to dodge to get out, and added a second front guy for the same reason. All in all, with a bag to hold it all, 22 oz. I do not actually use a tent unless it is raining, so light is right.
So...looking to buy 2 tents in the near future, and pretty sure I'll stick with BA. Will by a standard Tiger Wall 3-person for camping with my partner; the decision now is for myself. Trying to go UL... there's the Scout Carbon...and now the Tiger Wall 2 Carbon. The Tiger Wall is 7 oz heavier and $200 or 300 more expensive, but just a better, more comfortable tent (and fewer stakes). Any thoughts or comparative experiences, anyone?
I did my outward Bound in the Beartooths. Absolutely gorgeous.
Ok, bud, you sold me on Big Agnis tents.
BA rocks and has great customer service. I have three of their tents in my gear stable: a Tiger Wall UL 2 for solo BPing, a Copper Sur 3 for when I’m out with the wife or just one of my teenage kids, and a Flying Diamond 8 for car camping with the entire family (6 of us). Love their sleep systems as well.
My copper spur UL 3 is great form and setup but mannnn does it wet out, you can’t get out of it without getting drenched. Moved to DCF as such.
I have the Tiger Wall 2 and a Jack Rabbit3, I think that's what it's called. I purchased both tents on sale at REI. I paid 300.for my Tiger Wall and I use it solo. The Jack Rabbit is not the lightest tent but I split the weight with my daughter so it's fine. For me the Tiger Wall has made solo trips much more doable. I have a Granite Gear 38 L pack and a Western Mountaineering ultra 20 bag along with a bunch of other light gear. I am in my 60s so pack weight means alot. I am still doing the same or more mileage as I did 30 years ago because my pack is so much lighter. Someday I will pull the trigger on a Zpack big three. Take care. Nice channel and content, thanks.
Update, pulled the trigger on a Zpacks Duplex and I love it. I took it on my hike of the Long Trail in Vermont and it’s a palace for my dog and I. Super easy to set up and the tent material is not super thin like your BA. Well worth the money.
Not one of those would stand up to British weather
Love this video. I backpacked when I was a kid and your videos are getting me back into it. I’m 57 years old and banged up but I think I can find some short distance hikes here in Southern Oregon.
Awesome!
I absolutely LOVE my Tiger Wall UL2! This is a great video, thanks for sharing!
Classic. Love the used to live for hammock tents. Now I’m a ground guy. Lol
Unless Big Agnes uses DCF fabric for their tents, they will always be an inferior company vs Zpacks when it comes to weight savings.
Hi dan,how long did you use with the Ba copper spur ? I’m finding an tent for 2 to 3 days camping, so I want some suggest between Ba copper spur and msr hubba hubba, especially the life of them
We're using the Tiger Wall UL2. It is a little snug, but the weight is perfect.
I have a Big Agnes copper spur that I love, but I love my Warbonnet hammock with superfly tarp even more. Why did you switch to tent from a hammock?
Dan, you listed the scout carbon at 1lb 5oz and asked if it is infact the lightest 2p tent. The zpacks duplex is 1lb 4oz AND has 2 VESTIBULES AND HAS MESH lol
I listed two tents. Scout carbon (16 oz) and also the scout platinum (21 oz) 😁
Good video. Thanks. Wife and I Just bought and used the copper spur 3 mtn glo last week in Colorado in all day rain at crater lake and woke up to snow ❄️ it performed very well.
Thanks for sharing. I have BA Fly Greek UL 2 for more than 8 years now. I really like it so much.
I've used big Agnes tents for close to 20 years and love them, but I just took a Copper Spur out of storage (2 years) and the shock cord is totally shot!! It's so slack I can barely stuff it back into the poles to set it up.
I had a similar issue with my Copper Spur and BA replaced the cord and a couple of bent poles under warranty. The tent is over 3 years old and they fixed and replaced parts for free! Great service. Just create a repair report on their website.
I wish I could get out to these parts of the country! Cool stuff!
make it a priority.
I was desperate to have at least one BA item and the only thing I could afford was a sleeping quilt, which I love ! Can you say what tarp you were using here?
Any chance of trying a hilleburg tent?
Any luck with the Mountain Hardware Strato UL 2 tent? Stuck between getting that or a Copper Spur.
That tent really compares more to the tiger wall. Since they are both semi freestanding. But I would definitely take the tiger wall. The mountain hardware is really finicky to set up. It has very odd clip attachments to the poles. Other than that it’s a pretty good tent. But again my vote is the tiger wall.
@@DanBecker great, thanks for the insight!
i’ve read the tigerwall is very easy to tear. wondering if anyone’s had that problem? been leaning towards the copper spur for that reason.
I've been using my Big Agnes UlL Scout 2 for years and love it. It's a single wall as well but that has been my only gripe. Great video Dan. I did spy that St Croix rod strapped to your pack though. Are you a fly guy or a spin fishing guy. You should do a video on your camping fishing gear.
The Copper Spur is my luxury tent. When I want to go lighter it’s my Six Moon Designs Lunar Solo.
Are you aware of any B.A. models that require, or benefit from after-market seam sealing of rain fly, (with the sealer for Sil-Nylon of course)? When new, and/or after a few uses?
Not that I’m aware of. I’ve owned big Agnes for quite some time and never had to worry one bit about any seam sealing or have had leaks at all.
Hey Dan! Looking for the best lightest 4 person family backpacking tent, so far I see the “Big Agnus Copper Spur HV UL4 Tent 4 person and 3 season” that is only 5lbs 8 oz for a 4 person tent! Do you think this is the best light family backpacking tent option for 4 person or do you think there is a better one? I have a wife and 3 small kiddos to stuff in there. It’s not cheap at $650. Thanks!
Definitely. I would say that’s probably at the top of my list for a tent that large and at that weight. Definitely expensive though! Alternative would be a couple of 2 person tents. Something less expensive and a bit heavier that you could buy two of. Paria Outdoor Products sells some pretty decent tents that are very expensive for what they are.
Big Agnes Frying Pan SL2 Tent with Footprint. Got it a few years ago so no longer in production and a bit heavy but I enjoy the comfort of space.
The tiger wall is inferior to the Mountain Hardwear Strato Ul2.