What an excellent way of putting it. It's like stumbling upon pristine bottles of wine in a sun-glazed Italian village filled with flavours never previously tasted.
Hirasawa is one of the first musicians who openly embrace the internet in the late 90s and early 00s in Japan, he view it as a way to make and spread music without needing to go thru all the bullshit and corporate stuff of record companies, which he view as “garbage” and kills creativity. Kinda ironic that this made his music, published by himself, rather hard to access compared to “regular” music now in 2022. But given how much creative freedom he’s got I guess it’s worth it.
@@yanli111 Oh yeah definitely worth it in the long run, so many hoops all these companies make artists have to jump through. I don't blame him at all for preferring to handle it on his own.
For anyone interested in getting started with Susumu Hirasawa, I'll post a list of recommendations. Albums (I'll recommend the ones that are personally my favorite and most "friendly" to start with. They're in chronological order, but you can listen to them in any order you like): 1) Sim City. 2) Siren. 3) Technique of Relief. 4) Philosopher's Propeller. 5) Byakkoya. Individual songs (there are many, so I'll just pick the ones that seem appropriate to start with. There's no specific order): - Parade. - Forces. - Gardener King. - The Westward of Time. - Mother. - White Tiger Field/The Girl in Byakkoya. - Archetype Engine. - Town-0 Phase-5. - Rotation. - Adios. - Sign. - On Line Malaysia. - Beacon. - Code-Costarica. - Cambodian Limbo. - Siren. - The Iron Cutting Song. - The Secret of the Flowers of Phenomenon. - Kingdom. - Venus. - Big Brother. - Sim City. - Philosopher's Propeller-1. - Nurse Cafe. - Sign-2. - Aurora. - Dreaming Machine. - Rubedo. - Switched-On Lotus. - Strange Night of the Omnificence.
Judging by the lyrics, i always think this song tells a story about a king who used to live a prosperous life until fire consumed his kingdom and his villagers during a war, he lost everything asking why he couldn't recall everything, why his people are dying to the fire
Given the vibe of Planet Roll Call, what I understood was that a worldwide projected simulator had kept the populace under control until people started noticing irregularities, such as the "flowers that still bloom in ash". It would be then that the king of the simulated world succumbed to the ensuing chaos, waking up amnesiac. The lyrics I got that from are in Hirapedia.
This song got me through starscourge Radahn. As I charged up those sandy red hills on my way to die for the 11th time I got sniped because I missed the audio que of his gravity arrow hurtling toward me, 10/10 would listen to again
Your comment implies that usage of Delay Lama somehow makes music worse, unless if artist is not talented Which is genius line, that is unfortunately applies to any instrument
An English/Spanish translation of the lyrics I tried🙂 ---------------------------------------------- Naki kuni no ou doudou no The king of an utopia, so magnificient El Rey de una utopía, magnífico naki kuge wo humu oudou ni Crying, he steps on the flowers offered up on the royal road Llorando, pisa flores ofrecidos sobre el camino real ima mo utsutsu to mimagau sora niwa Against the sky so confusingly real even now Contra el cielo que todavía confundo como la realidad hi ga gidan no hi ga hi ga Fire is---, fire of doubt, fire Fuego está---, fuego de recelo, fuego daki ashiki hi wo taete Holding on, I endured the unfortunate days Abrazándome, aguanté los días de desgracias waki buyuu no shi wo tataeta Excited, I eulogized the knights for their prowess Excitándome, elogié a los caballeros por sus proezas imamo utsutsuto mimagau sora niwa Across the kingdom so confusingly real even now En todo el reino que todavía confundo como la realidad hi ga hisan no hi ga hi ga Fire is---, fire of misery, fire Fuego está---, fuego de miseria, fuego saa saa Come and see Ven y mira miyo shou wo shou wo See the show, it's a show! Mira el espectáclo, es un show! hi yo naze tami tachi wa Fire, tell me, why are my people Fuego, dime, ¿por qué mi pueblo está hashiru hashiru running, running? corriendo, corriendo? hi yo omoi dasenai nani yue Fire, tell me, I can't recall the reason why Fuego, dime, no puedo recordar porqué hi yo naze tami tachi wa Fire, tell me, why are my people Fuego, dime, ¿por qué mi pueblo está moeru moeru burning, burning? llameando, llameando? hi yo omoi dasenai nani yue Fire, tell me, I can't remember the reason why Fuego, dime, no puedo recordar porqué haiiro yo fure fusawashiku The color gray, come raining down to suit El color gris, ven lloviendo para que lo adecue naze no wa imada saku Why are the fields still flowering? ¿Por qué todavía están floridos los campos? imada utsutsu to mimagau nobe ni wa Around the fields so confusingly real even now Alrededor de ellos los que todavía confundo como la realidad hi ga kujuu no hi ga hi ga Fire is---, fire of distress, fire Fuego está---, fuego de angustia, fuego saa saa Come and see Ven y mira mi yo shoo wo shoo wo See the show, it's a show! Mira este espectáclo, es un show! hi yo naze tami tachi wa Fire, tell me, Why are my people Fuego, dime, ¿por qué mi pueblo está aegu aegu gasping, gasping? jadeando, jadeando? hi yo omoi dasenai nani yue Fire, tell me, I can't remember the reason why Fuego, dime, no puedo recordar porqué hi yo naze tami tachi wa Fire, tell me, why are my people Fuego, dime, ¿por qué mi pueblo están kuchiru kuchiru decaying, decaying? pudriendo, pudriendo? hi yo omoidasenai nani yue Fire, tell me, I can't remember the reason why Fuego, dime, no puedo recordar porqué ----------------------- Although the official translation of the title is "Royal road, Paradise", I think it can be translated as "Righteous kingship, Utopia" , because the very first line of the lyrics says "naki kuni (無き国)", means "a country that doesn't exist". It perfectry fits with "Utopia", which literary means "no-place".
No problem. I'll upload some more stuff by him soon. Likely some of his older, harder to find stuff (such as Cowboy and Indian, which I also uploaded). I just want more people to get into Susumu Hirasawa's work. :)
I've been familiar with this song for a long time but just learned about the Delay Lama connection so I get to experience some unique amusement and of course the song sounds really good.
I had auto play on while working and I heard fucking delay lama and i have just been staring at my screen for a few minutes. It factory reset me essentially.
people think the delay lama vst sounds bad because it has a strange tone and an unorthodox interface, but a guitar also sounds pretty bad if you only pluck one string. maybe the delay lama is a better tool than you thought, and the fact that it sounds good here isn't all that surprising
I swear to god I'm hearing the nasa space program Text to speech sing AAAAIIIIYAIYAAAIYAAA followed by what sounds like the gachi ass slaps and I can't unhear it.
Delay lama was used unironically in this song *Delay lama is based of Susumu Hirasawa's own voice* *Susumu Hirasawa is using his own distorted voice for this song*
Finding out that this genius unironically uses Delay Lama as an instrument is beautiful.
real
Seriously? I thought that was his own voice?
@I Hate LGBTQ+, Furries, Femboys guts would despise you, be better
@I Hate LGBTQ+, Furries, Femboys fatherless
@@friktogurg9242 who said he is not the original voice from delay lama?
Finding a new Hirasawa song is like stumbling upon a cellar filled with bottles of amazing wine with flavors never tasted before
What an excellent way of putting it. It's like stumbling upon pristine bottles of wine in a sun-glazed Italian village filled with flavours never previously tasted.
I'm ascending the heavens
grape wine semi sweet Stella rosa black
the real deal
You said it!! His music is sooooo beautiful 💜
really it's like otherworldly songs
I came here after listening delay lama sing gatsu but susumu hisarawa already used delay lama 12 years ago holy shit and in fact they are beautiful
Dude,same
The cycle of karma continues
Came here for the same reason, guess it hit the algorithm again
Same.
Im amazed at how he managed to use delay lama so elegantly...
DELAY LAMA IS POLY ITS A LEAD ALSO THIS IS HIS VOICETHE ALBUM WAS RELEASED BEFORE THE RELEASEOF DELAY LAMA
😁
@@svgv3141 it's just some other formant synth most likely
@@svgv3141 album released in 2009 whereas delay lama has been out since 2002
@@Oricksiosusumu hirasawa has made music since the 80s I'm pretty sure
@@xynium. he has but that has nothing to do with my comment bro what r u saying
knew it was going to be amazing as soon as he came in with that AAAAIIIIYAIYAAAIYAAA
This part is way too good.
ikr lmao
It was probably made with an obsolete software called Harmony (IIRC) by the company Myriad.
@@hexyko4850 L8 but that's a VST called Delay Lama
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 really tho!!
Yep... Guts Delay Lama got me here.
I love Hirasawa's music, but finding it is already so difficult. I had no idea this song existed until now.
Same here
Same lmao
Hirasawa is one of the first musicians who openly embrace the internet in the late 90s and early 00s in Japan, he view it as a way to make and spread music without needing to go thru all the bullshit and corporate stuff of record companies, which he view as “garbage” and kills creativity. Kinda ironic that this made his music, published by himself, rather hard to access compared to “regular” music now in 2022. But given how much creative freedom he’s got I guess it’s worth it.
@@yanli111 Oh yeah definitely worth it in the long run, so many hoops all these companies make artists have to jump through. I don't blame him at all for preferring to handle it on his own.
@@naufaldyas61 Ayyyy!
Jokes aside I think that Delay Lama was used well here, powerful piece of music.
this was before delay lama
@@Raii_Chu delay lamas been around since the early 2000s and this song only came out in 2009 though
@@Raii_Chu no it wasnt, delay lama has been around since 2002 and this song came out in 2009
@@Raii_Chu delay lama has been around since 2002 but this song came out in 2009
the delay lama has existed for millennia
3:04からのギターが鳥肌立つくらいカッコ良すぎだわ…(惚れる)
This song hit me with the feelings as soon as he said...
"Aiiiiiiiyaaaaaeeeeeeyaaaaooooowaaaaaaaawawaaaiiiiieeeee"
It's even better on Phonon Belt. Really gives me an urge to cry when he goes "OOOAAAAYYYYAAAAAAAYYYAAAYYYOOOOYYYYAAAAYYYAAAA"
ボソボソショー...ヲ...ショー...\├"├"├"├"├"├"├".../を"お"お"お"お"お"お"お"お"お"お"お"お"お"お"お"お"お"お"お"!!!!!!!!
For anyone interested in getting started with Susumu Hirasawa, I'll post a list of recommendations.
Albums (I'll recommend the ones that are personally my favorite and most "friendly" to start with. They're in chronological order, but you can listen to them in any order you like):
1) Sim City.
2) Siren.
3) Technique of Relief.
4) Philosopher's Propeller.
5) Byakkoya.
Individual songs (there are many, so I'll just pick the ones that seem appropriate to start with. There's no specific order):
- Parade.
- Forces.
- Gardener King.
- The Westward of Time.
- Mother.
- White Tiger Field/The Girl in Byakkoya.
- Archetype Engine.
- Town-0 Phase-5.
- Rotation.
- Adios.
- Sign.
- On Line Malaysia.
- Beacon.
- Code-Costarica.
- Cambodian Limbo.
- Siren.
- The Iron Cutting Song.
- The Secret of the Flowers of Phenomenon.
- Kingdom.
- Venus.
- Big Brother.
- Sim City.
- Philosopher's Propeller-1.
- Nurse Cafe.
- Sign-2.
- Aurora.
- Dreaming Machine.
- Rubedo.
- Switched-On Lotus.
- Strange Night of the Omnificence.
I completely agree with this. I think Sim City is a masterpiece and a great staring off point.
@@RenegadeReplicantthe only other song I think I'd add to the list is Stillborn City but this list is pretty comprehensive.
TH-camの不完全な日本語訳でも全部なんとなく曲名が分かるのタイトルを英訳してくれた人たちの正確性を感じる
Oh my God, he actually uses Delay Lama, the madlad.
Suzumu Hirasawa is literally the voice sample for delay lama. This song released before delay lama from what I gather.
@@ashmoleproductions5407 WHAT THE HEEEEEEEEEELL
Judging by the lyrics, i always think this song tells a story about a king who used to live a prosperous life until fire consumed his kingdom and his villagers during a war, he lost everything asking why he couldn't recall everything, why his people are dying to the fire
I probably shouldn't compare this to Berserk because it has nothing to do with it, but it certainly seems like the story of King Gaiseric
@@vinegar3617 can i go a day of listening to hirasawa without one of these?!
i used to ruuuule the world
@@purpledefaultpfp6233 seasons changed when i gave the word
Given the vibe of Planet Roll Call, what I understood was that a worldwide projected simulator had kept the populace under control until people started noticing irregularities, such as the "flowers that still bloom in ash". It would be then that the king of the simulated world succumbed to the ensuing chaos, waking up amnesiac. The lyrics I got that from are in Hirapedia.
This song got me through starscourge Radahn. As I charged up those sandy red hills on my way to die for the 11th time I got sniped because I missed the audio que of his gravity arrow hurtling toward me, 10/10 would listen to again
then you'll be addicted to this by the time you get to malenia
true
Idk why this song reminds me of Radahn.
@@Seto_A4
it's before your radahn 💀
Radahn was a real bitch
Thought it was a solid song at first, 2 more listens and it’s absolutely incredible.
サビのリズムに乗るのが半分からっていうのが、ヤヴァイ。
The only guy in the world to use Delay Lama and made it sound majestic.
Wrong.
@@muftalbatil9938 name one
@@daviusworrick1531 late but search up hige driver - fire temple
Your comment implies that usage of Delay Lama somehow makes music worse, unless if artist is not talented
Which is genius line, that is unfortunately applies to any instrument
ショーを゛を゛を゛!ほんとすき
歌詞 ギターソロ すべてに置いて素晴らしい曲
アアアイヤ~♪の所マジでいいな!
西蔵の喇嘛がライブ会場でコーラスをしていると思うと鳥肌が立つ
An English/Spanish translation of the lyrics I tried🙂
----------------------------------------------
Naki kuni no ou doudou no
The king of an utopia, so magnificient
El Rey de una utopía, magnífico
naki kuge wo humu oudou ni
Crying, he steps on the flowers offered up on the royal road
Llorando, pisa flores ofrecidos sobre el camino real
ima mo utsutsu to mimagau sora niwa
Against the sky so confusingly real even now
Contra el cielo que todavía confundo como la realidad
hi ga gidan no hi ga hi ga
Fire is---, fire of doubt, fire
Fuego está---, fuego de recelo, fuego
daki ashiki hi wo taete
Holding on, I endured the unfortunate days
Abrazándome, aguanté los días de desgracias
waki buyuu no shi wo tataeta
Excited, I eulogized the knights for their prowess
Excitándome, elogié a los caballeros por sus proezas
imamo utsutsuto mimagau sora niwa
Across the kingdom so confusingly real even now
En todo el reino que todavía confundo como la realidad
hi ga hisan no hi ga hi ga
Fire is---, fire of misery, fire
Fuego está---, fuego de miseria, fuego
saa saa
Come and see
Ven y mira
miyo shou wo shou wo
See the show, it's a show!
Mira el espectáclo, es un show!
hi yo naze tami tachi wa
Fire, tell me, why are my people
Fuego, dime, ¿por qué mi pueblo está
hashiru hashiru
running, running?
corriendo, corriendo?
hi yo omoi dasenai nani yue
Fire, tell me, I can't recall the reason why
Fuego, dime, no puedo recordar porqué
hi yo naze tami tachi wa
Fire, tell me, why are my people
Fuego, dime, ¿por qué mi pueblo está
moeru moeru
burning, burning?
llameando, llameando?
hi yo omoi dasenai nani yue
Fire, tell me, I can't remember the reason why
Fuego, dime, no puedo recordar porqué
haiiro yo fure fusawashiku
The color gray, come raining down to suit
El color gris, ven lloviendo para que lo adecue
naze no wa imada saku
Why are the fields still flowering?
¿Por qué todavía están floridos los campos?
imada utsutsu to mimagau nobe ni wa
Around the fields so confusingly real even now
Alrededor de ellos los que todavía confundo como la realidad
hi ga kujuu no hi ga hi ga
Fire is---, fire of distress, fire
Fuego está---, fuego de angustia, fuego
saa saa
Come and see
Ven y mira
mi yo shoo wo shoo wo
See the show, it's a show!
Mira este espectáclo, es un show!
hi yo naze tami tachi wa
Fire, tell me, Why are my people
Fuego, dime, ¿por qué mi pueblo está
aegu aegu
gasping, gasping?
jadeando, jadeando?
hi yo omoi dasenai nani yue
Fire, tell me, I can't remember the reason why
Fuego, dime, no puedo recordar porqué
hi yo naze tami tachi wa
Fire, tell me, why are my people
Fuego, dime, ¿por qué mi pueblo están
kuchiru kuchiru
decaying, decaying?
pudriendo, pudriendo?
hi yo omoidasenai nani yue
Fire, tell me, I can't remember the reason why
Fuego, dime, no puedo recordar porqué
-----------------------
Although the official translation of the title is "Royal road, Paradise",
I think it can be translated as "Righteous kingship, Utopia" ,
because the very first line of the lyrics says
"naki kuni (無き国)", means "a country that doesn't exist".
It perfectry fits with "Utopia", which literary means "no-place".
you translated very-very well
Gracias , en serio gracias por traducir al menos está canción del maestro
@@leonardoramirez579 Gracias. Pero ahora me di cuanta de que cometí un montón de errores gramaticales... ¡Qué vergüenza! 😳 Corregí los que he notado.
sry but i cant understand anything because of the random english in the middle of japanese why is that
muchas gracias!
This really is one of the more powerful pieces of music I've heard in my life lol
unreal how good this is
My thoughts exactly
2:24
を゛を゛を゛を゛を゛!!!すき
Guys not everything Hirasawa makes needs to be involved with Berserk
That being said, these lyrics could fit Skull Knight
I think they would fit Farnese pretty well too, considering the mention on fire throughout the song.
i think his music is better in Final Fantasy or Shin Megami Tensei
@@n3onf0x It really fits dark fantasy in general
sometimes it's involved with Paprika
sure, but he doesnt really mind. he is a fan after all
No problem. I'll upload some more stuff by him soon. Likely some of his older, harder to find stuff (such as Cowboy and Indian, which I also uploaded). I just want more people to get into Susumu Hirasawa's work. :)
いつ聴いてもイントロの謎の癖になる違和感(不安感)には慣れない
Yeah that strange feeling really enhances the song
I never noticed how good was this song!
every where i go i cant stop thinking of him, RIP miura
Same its tragic
@@putadatuamaecorno1192 feel yea...
Hope susumu is doing great
@@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique i hope so too kinda seems like his tweets are stranger then normal i think idk
@@LOLMIKEF His tweets are always weird lol.
so he used it, ha, I thought it sounded familiar (:
that moment, when DelayLama does solo, my heart is just in clouds.
Falling head over heels for this man’s music
yeee
Hirasawa is a wizard
i love the delay lama vst that Hirasawa used on this song ^^
I KNEW I WASN'T GOING BATSHIT AND IT WAS THE DELAY LAMA
I've been familiar with this song for a long time but just learned about the Delay Lama connection so I get to experience some unique amusement and of course the song sounds really good.
Perfection...
This hits harder now more than ever...
That clamor at 2:23 "Oooooaaaaaa!!!" >:V
Things just got real!
sableroku Agree! It's just fantastic!!!
he really scared me with that i was wearing headphones while being outside at night lol
@@zetsuron_g4 Haha
Mental tune this one. Love every bit of it
誰も攻めては来ない、火も燃え上がってはいない。しかし、王、正確には王だと思わされていた男は、脅されて、攻め入る兵と燃え上がる炎の恐怖に、民を売ってしまった。
宣統帝かしら
@KingOfUm
Yeah, its overwhelming, but the more you listen to it, the more it just... works.
Fantastic song.
I'm so thankful that i know about this song
its been like 7-8 years since i first heard this song and i only just now recognized that delay lama
omg! more and more amazing music from him!
Lmao he used Delay Lama, what a legend.
I was just thinking that. Not only did he use it, he used it well.
as exepeted from berserk most epic behelit 💀
He, you also recognised it. Do you happen to make music, too?
@@vidarhjal yeah, have for a long time. I used to use delay llama back in 06-07 but it was just too recognizable. Now I'm thinking of using it again.
@@Spookyjordan nice! Hehe, I only started gathering experience with music production in 2009 in puberty
This is legit beautiful
This was very calm and spoopy at the same time
ベルセルクのサントラに入ってても違和感無さそう
Why tf is this so good
I have been listening to this on loop for like 30 minutes, help
平沢進の曲の中では1番好き
Marvelous upload thanks for that!
これ僧侶の声入ってるよなw
This song is awesome
これ聞いてたらベルセルクのナメクジ伯爵思い出した
凄いマッチしてる
So many emotions
where is the love button!!!!
He's a god to me,, a living god
師匠のアルバムのどっかの国のよく分からんバンドのジャケットみたいなん好き
That's the same dude who created the song The Girl in Byakkoya. Amazing.
Love the Delay Lama used in this song
これ先日カラオケで歌ってきた。
「ショー を う゛お゛お゛お゛お゛!」
の直後に店員がガラス扉から軽く覗いていた、ように見えた。
ちょっと辛かった。
this feels like Guts standing up after an exhausting fight
pulling The Dragonslayer over his shoulder
and then marching onward
So nostalgic after reading Lost Children Arc (Berserk) with this ost
Ok yeah now I hear the Delay Lama in here for sure.
i read vagabond with this song, it was beautiful
サビが好き
世界一ディレイラマをかっこよく使う男
最近気づいたんだけど、0:32からのコーラスDelay Lama じゃんww
ダメだ僧侶の幻影がww
I had auto play on while working and I heard fucking delay lama and i have just been staring at my screen for a few minutes. It factory reset me essentially.
ディレイラマをかっこよく使える男
正直師匠の声かと思ってた
I think I'll play Armored Core 6 while listening to this song...!
2023年発売予定になったアーマードコア6はコレを聞きながら遊ぶのだ…!
people think the delay lama vst sounds bad because it has a strange tone and an unorthodox interface, but a guitar also sounds pretty bad if you only pluck one string. maybe the delay lama is a better tool than you thought, and the fact that it sounds good here isn't all that surprising
2:22 that shit epic af
王道楽土?
この曲のイントロをきくと、朽ち果てた荒野で死にかけている兵士が赤くなった空に手を伸ばして息絶えて行く風景が頭に浮かんだ
"Is Delay Lama an instrument?"
"Yes, Patorikku-san, it is!"
Madlad actually use delay Llama for this 10/10 song
0:32 there it is
幻想の亡国とそのリアルな享楽を謳った鎮魂歌
I can imagine this song is used in a berserk anime adaptation which will never happened irl
band of the hawk returning victorious from battle, adored by the public/griffith getting knighted(lorded?) by king
This Song is amazing, would also fit perfectly to BERSERK
Z0dd TV ikr just added it Tod my berserk manga reading list haha
DELAY LAMA GANG
DELAY LAMA GANG
ダクソに合いそう
コヨミチャンネル むしろ平沢を楽曲担当にして、フロム作品一本作るべき案件
タイトルはHorse Boneですか?
2:16 elavated a banger
Who's Susumu Hirasawa?
I'm here for the great Delay Lama.
it has begun
この曲。ダクソの火継ぎの、特にヨームの曲だと勝手に思ってる。
F0X隊員くせもの
この曲聴いてヨームの設定作ったとしか思えないくらい歌詞がまっちしてますよねw
この曲のダクソ2MADを最初見てたときは誰が当てはまるんだ?と考えてたんですが当てはまる人物いました
マヌスの落し子デュナシャンドラに洗脳されて巨人の戦争をさせられたドラングレイグのヴァンクラッド王でした
*Aiaiaaaaaioooo*
aaaiaaaaaiiiiiiiaaooooaaaaaai
@JuCyb3rc4t
The whole song is great, but I agree it really gets good at 2:23.
I swear to god I'm hearing the nasa space program Text to speech sing AAAAIIIIYAIYAAAIYAAA followed by what sounds like the gachi ass slaps and I can't unhear it.
Delay lama was used unironically in this song
*Delay lama is based of Susumu Hirasawa's own voice*
*Susumu Hirasawa is using his own distorted voice for this song*
It's still funny that he used Delay Lama
Is there another Susumu song with that _aaayoo_ part?
That specific chant really calls to me man, don't know if I already heard it before
Phonon Belt
In the same his album
Search " Delay Lama "
I can clearly hear "Him"
僧侶マスター
Wow great song :O got better at 2:23 .o/
My man used the dali lama inport!
「火よ」が本当に焔が立ち昇る音にしか聴こえない。
こんなええ曲なのに知名度が低いのがほんまに惜しい
まぁ彼的にはおおむねこんなもんでいいのでしょう
ハイ!
@@馬修羅-v7e 「まぁおおむね良しといった所かな」
まぁ、おおむねこんなもん