Haha love it, thank you for sharing my car on your channel, also I would like to add I am fully aware of the situation with the radiator and I am in process of getting it replaced, also going to change my Chinese turbo to a genuine turbo eventually, car is still got a long way to go!
The fact that it’s a vvti engine makes me question how it has been tuned. A turbo that size should be on full boost by no later than 3700rpm. JZ’s with vvti are known for having heaps of mid range power when tuned correctly
@@lukeyota I can't comment on this car but lots of kiwi tuners just say to ditch the vvti which - like you point out - takes things a long way backwards
the uzz31/32 1uz cars were the proper luxury models, the jz spec was base model the 32 has active suspension, the 31 has just regular air suspension, first car to have a rear vision camera, had the touch screen emv, mirrors that would shake to remove raindrops etc etc, hard to classify the jz as a luxury car, compared to the uz models, but the jz is the jz i have a uzz31 thats been 5spd converted and i love it
My Dad had one of these back in the late 90s (auto of course) - it was such a sleeper (as a lot of people had never seen one) - my Mum used to complain it was too hard to park and the doors were too wide. 😅He opened up the exhaust and intake a little and she breathed much better.
Yeah I think with shorter gears and a smaller turbo it would be heaps better with power coming in at 3000rpm and it would get to the top of 2nd before license losing speeds haha
It’s not the fact that the turbo is old. It’s the wrong one for the application followed by the tune. You can have the same issue today with a modern turbo by choosing the wrong a/r combo and size.
@@KiwiCarLife it could be because it’s “old”, because it’s damaged, needs new seals, leaking, shaft play, rebuilt wrong, check your vacuum there is probably a leak or a million other things that go with it when a turbocharger is used for 20+ years..all I know is any turbo even a 20 year old one shouldn’t be just starting to spool at 5k rpm. Something else is wrong.
Cool old cars and I love any inline 6 turbo pretty much haha, however the radiator top tank about to fail, needs replacing asap, needs a modern day turbo, doesn't need to be massive either, pulsar g30-660 with 0.83AR or smaller would do.
Reminds me of the Altezza/IS. They made a 2JZ varient with a manual (IS300 USDM) and I see people say all the time that it's the best version. But the JZ takes too long to get up to steam. The RS200 with the 3S is down on power but is so much more rev happy and usable. I think the RS was what Toyota really built as the benchmark for that car.
If this were my car I think I would change it out for a smaller turbo and yeah, make it kick in at 3.5K rpm or something. Looks like a fun car to drive though!
Good review, still looks like fun, but a bit of a flawed set up! I do remember an older Gentleman in Wellington who had a gold coloured V8 one many years ago, he wasn't afraid of giving it a bootfull and it was pretty quick!
Man you are smashing the videos out, I like that you review the average enthusiasts cars. If you want to review a stock 32gtr and a lightly modified 34gtr let me know. Auckland based however.
2000 rpm at 100kph...a change of diff ratio would help wake it up... VVTI is perhaps not working as it should? I've seen VVTI dyno tuning make a massive difference to boost threshold/area under the dyno curve... could also just be the cheap china charger, but it's hard to argue with the $$$ per KW they provide 😎
I think it's a combo of a super long final drive (he unknowingly put a longer 3.7FD in because it was LSD) and an unnecessarily large turbo. Smaller turbo and 4.5 ish FD and she'd be golden
That slanted Toyota transmission is very much an 80’s and 90’s thing. Back in the late 90’s had an ‘86 Corona coupe and the girlfriend at the time drove a ‘90 FXGT; both of the five speeds on those felt like they were slanted towards the driver, with first gear being where third gear would be in any other regular car… Slapping into fifth basically felt like it was borderline digging into your left leg 😂
@KiwiCarLife I'm fishing for a better turbo/manifold combo as well. Mines at full boost around 3100. I want it closer to 2500 so I might change the whole thing out, still looking into it.
VVTi 1JZ is single turbo. I had a JZX100 Chaser with this engine and R154 box, I had boost control problems with it and it lunched the turbine wheel in the turbo (they're ceramic in these). The stock turbo hits pretty hard early on but tapers off at about 5500RPM off memory.
Yeah most stock turbos are designed for mid range power. An aftermarket turbo, but one smaller than this and better designed would deliver 300kW but at much lower, more usable RPM
Let me know if you want do drive an Estoril blue/black leather, stage 2-ed, M135i EWG N55, with a xHP-ed z8 box and full Bilstein setup, at some stage mate, when you're up in Auckland. To see what your car can end up like. Only thing missing is the LSD, which I will be doing.
Its also wild that its a 6 cylinder. But with K24 you would propably spool the turbo faster and make more power everywhere because the honda cylinder head breathes so much more and VTC/Vtec gives a lot better power band from down low to 9k.
Yeah I think with supporting mods that turbo is probably made for like 400-500kW. At 300kW it's too laggy to be useful and doesn't make extreme power at the top end to be worth the wait. Long gears don't help
I’ve spoken to a lot of people in the comments with 1JZ’s and they all agree the turbo design is just really old. With a smaller modern turbo it would make the same power just as reliably but boost would come in hard at 3k not slowly at 5
@KiwiCarLife They're good too! The Aristo was the only other car to have the turbo 2JZ though :) It actually had it before the Supra, too! First turbo Aristo was in 91 and the Supra in 93.
It's a good sounding JZZ30 but that's about where it ends with the good... this a very rough example, the wheels don't even center on the hub which is probably why the steering wheel shakes? Your description of the shifter sounds like something is broken. The battery tie down is just hanging out in the bay and the lack of stereo surround is very untidy. It's great that Soarers are being appreciated and reviewed etc but poor examples really put the rest of the community in a bad light. On a side note, being a JZ model it comes with far less options compared to the UZ models.
You ever heard of wheel balance being out? Those wheels are my cert space wheels and they need a new balance hence the shacking, the battery tie down not being put in place is because I usually take the battery out and in this particular day I forgot to tie down properly, lastly I do agree with you regarding the central pice missing it does make the car look a bit ugly however it’s not a rough example of a soarer, specially compared to a lot of them on the market today. Thank you for your input tho.
The wheels he needs to have as they’re the correct offset for certification spec. Stereo surround would be nice but otherwise it’s a pretty well kept example especially for the age. Not every car is a brand new showroom spec example especially when they get to this age. The owner of this just enjoys driving it
@deeiaawad8283 I've had non hub centric steel wheels on a Soarer before, and it really didn't matter how well balanced they were it always gave vibration. If we just compare to rougher examples, then how do we get better :)
Needs it's arches rolled/pulled and coils lowered another inch and a half or so. Shouldn't be seeing the tops of those tires. Modern turbo will fix that lag quick, 400 hp on a 1jzgte vvti should be instant.
Yeah exactly that’s what I think too. The owner is seeking to make upgrades over time so in a year or so it’ll probably be instant 400hp as you suggest
As an answer to all these stupid comments about the turbo, it's a GT3076. So the turbo itself is not a problem. Possibly the excessive lag comes from a combination of a massive turbine housing , like a T4 1.06 a/r (which maybe adequate for the 2JZ but too big for the 1JZ) , a very loosy wastegate that opens too early and unfortunate tuning, who knows, for sure it's not the "old technology turbo"
@@KiwiCarLife you can ask other people that they know about turbochargers in your area. A GT3076 definitely won't be more laggy than a G30-770 that other people suggested. It would less powerful for sure, but more laggy, no. Also it's not oversized for the engine. But it could the reasons that I mentioned, could also a leaky blow off valve, who knows. Usually it's a combination of factors.
@@KiwiCarLife Strange because having owned 4 different manual toyotas (and specifically a manual Soarer) none of them have a diagonal pattern?! I can only assume the gear knob was not aligned properly if you check your video you will see its on the piss, maybe that made it feel weird?
Well, that's true I guess. It's only fun when you start going super quick because that's where the boost is. Shorter gears and a smaller turbo would do this car wonders
Can't hold back my laughter xD xD "OMG this is so fast" ... xD xD him: literally going 70 mph at max.... xDxD If you want to test such a car, get it on the Autobahn or one of the mexican roads without speed limit and punch through the gears and their full range of RPM, just then you can say if it really is fast, smooth or whatever... Driving 60mph aint telling you sh*t about how the car drives...
Ahh yes so I’ll fly this car and myself to Germany just to keep you happy. Genius bro! Fast can mean high speed yes, but it can also mean acceleration. Don’t have to do 200kmh to figure out it’s a quick car
There’s lag, and then there’s just a poorly tuned car. This is the latter. It ruins what would otherwise be a fantastic drive because you can hardly use the power it has available. Not to mention the fact it would be easily beaten by a much less powerful car. A smaller turbo and better tune would make similar power, but it would come in hard at 3000rpm
Owner said he has to have them on to get a WOF because that’s the spec it was certed with. Once he finishes all the mods he’ll put better wheels on and re-cert it
looks like a very china turbo, wouldnt be surprising that its laggy, but perhaps change a gear down further? lol, there are larger turbos by Garrett or Precision that come on HARD from 3000rpm.
Yeah man I reckon with the right turbo it would make the same power but at much lower RPM. Hard to change down any more gears when most of the time I was already in 2nd haha
Haha love it, thank you for sharing my car on your channel, also I would like to add I am fully aware of the situation with the radiator and I am in process of getting it replaced, also going to change my Chinese turbo to a genuine turbo eventually, car is still got a long way to go!
Keep going mate. Car has so much potential
hahaha wa7sh deeia a7la like habibi - omar
Yeah man once she's done it'll be epic!
@@deeiaawad8283 All good, pulsar turbos are fantastic and fairly nicely priced too
Love your car :D
Great example of why dyno numbers dont tell the full picture, decent peak power but the area under the curve is what matters for the street
Exactly right!
The fact that it’s a vvti engine makes me question how it has been tuned. A turbo that size should be on full boost by no later than 3700rpm. JZ’s with vvti are known for having heaps of mid range power when tuned correctly
@@lukeyota
I can't comment on this car but lots of kiwi tuners just say to ditch the vvti which - like you point out - takes things a long way backwards
The sounds it makes on the on-ramp is incredible
Yeah man so good!
the uzz31/32 1uz cars were the proper luxury models, the jz spec was base model
the 32 has active suspension, the 31 has just regular air suspension, first car to have a rear vision camera, had the touch screen emv, mirrors that would shake to remove raindrops etc etc, hard to classify the jz as a luxury car, compared to the uz models, but the jz is the jz
i have a uzz31 thats been 5spd converted and i love it
Very cool! Yeah the old Lexus/Toyotas were very pioneering
My Dad had one of these back in the late 90s (auto of course) - it was such a sleeper (as a lot of people had never seen one) - my Mum used to complain it was too hard to park and the doors were too wide. 😅He opened up the exhaust and intake a little and she breathed much better.
That's excellent! Would have been a very fast car in the 90's for sure
Must be tuned for peak power, I used to have a chaser with the same motor and stock it makes boost from basically 2400rpm
Not a modern turbo charger definitely needs to be binned
Yeah I think with shorter gears and a smaller turbo it would be heaps better with power coming in at 3000rpm and it would get to the top of 2nd before license losing speeds haha
@KiwiCarLife big turbo on these is definitely a highway pull sorta deal.
Cams help a lot with the mid range pick up and helps the top end a lot
ovbiusly made boost from 2400 lmao
It’s the diff need to love to a 4.11
FYI They released factory manual 1jzgte soarers. Not all were automatic
Yes true! But it’s definitely the kind of car you would expect with an automatic
This guy always reminds me of the F&F Tokyio Drift high school guy with the viper.
😂😂😂
Not sure on the reference but thanks!
@@KiwiCarLife Just the looks, not the bad attitude 👍
It’s not the fact that the turbo is old. It’s the wrong one for the application followed by the tune. You can have the same issue today with a modern turbo by choosing the wrong a/r combo and size.
Yeah for sure man
@@KiwiCarLife it could be because it’s “old”, because it’s damaged, needs new seals, leaking, shaft play, rebuilt wrong, check your vacuum there is probably a leak or a million other things that go with it when a turbocharger is used for 20+ years..all I know is any turbo even a 20 year old one shouldn’t be just starting to spool at 5k rpm. Something else is wrong.
Cool old cars and I love any inline 6 turbo pretty much haha, however the radiator top tank about to fail, needs replacing asap, needs a modern day turbo, doesn't need to be massive either, pulsar g30-660 with 0.83AR or smaller would do.
Yeah agree
Reminds me of the Altezza/IS. They made a 2JZ varient with a manual (IS300 USDM) and I see people say all the time that it's the best version. But the JZ takes too long to get up to steam. The RS200 with the 3S is down on power but is so much more rev happy and usable. I think the RS was what Toyota really built as the benchmark for that car.
Yeah it’s sorta similar, the IS is much more sporty though. This is a boat by comparison haha
@KiwiCarLife oh I can imagine haha. A great highway cruiser
As good as that sound is it would get old getting blown away at the lights by a stock Daihatsu Charade waiting for the boost to come in.
Exactly hahah
If this were my car I think I would change it out for a smaller turbo and yeah, make it kick in at 3.5K rpm or something. Looks like a fun car to drive though!
Yeah I reckon even with a stock turbo sure the peak power wouldn't be as high but it would be much better to drive
it is a small turbo for that car. its just an old tech turbo
Good review, still looks like fun, but a bit of a flawed set up!
I do remember an older Gentleman in Wellington who had a gold coloured V8 one many years ago, he wasn't afraid of giving it a bootfull and it was pretty quick!
Oh that’s excellent I love old guys that give it some beans. And it needs a smaller turbo and shorter gears
What's the turbo's compressor wheel made from... Lead? Lol 😂
Must be HAHA
The uzz32 is the luxury one’s leather wood sunroof jz ones were not luxury focused
It’s still far from a “sports car” though. Very cushy even if it’s not the highest spec one
As a future Soarer owner this is soo nice :D
Yesss
Man you are smashing the videos out, I like that you review the average enthusiasts cars. If you want to review a stock 32gtr and a lightly modified 34gtr let me know. Auckland based however.
Yeah man I’m trying my best! Yeah I’d totally be keen man! Send me an email kiwicarlife@icloud.com
Growing up it was one of my most loved cars and we have a v8 version in Sydney also
How good!
That radiator is moments away from failing look at the color of it lol
Oh yeah just noticed that haha it's changing colour
I remember when they were new, Damn 28 years. Nice.
Wow! Long time ago!
2000 rpm at 100kph...a change of diff ratio would help wake it up... VVTI is perhaps not working as it should? I've seen VVTI dyno tuning make a massive difference to boost threshold/area under the dyno curve... could also just be the cheap china charger, but it's hard to argue with the $$$ per KW they provide 😎
I think it's a combo of a super long final drive (he unknowingly put a longer 3.7FD in because it was LSD) and an unnecessarily large turbo. Smaller turbo and 4.5 ish FD and she'd be golden
That slanted Toyota transmission is very much an 80’s and 90’s thing. Back in the late 90’s had an ‘86 Corona coupe and the girlfriend at the time drove a ‘90 FXGT; both of the five speeds on those felt like they were slanted towards the driver, with first gear being where third gear would be in any other regular car… Slapping into fifth basically felt like it was borderline digging into your left leg 😂
Yeah that's weird aye! This was definitely like that
I haven't seen this Soarer around. I have a Z20 Soarer in Welly.
Very nice! Yeah this is the guy that organizes a lot of welly meets on Fridays
*_hard to beat the 1jz for sound @ full noise 🎶🎵🎶🤤_*
absolutely man it sounds sooooo good
I got the v8 model, super fun cruiser I need to manual swap it though for a more engaging drive.
Yeah man manual conversion would make it excellent. Have you seen my manual Altezza video? That would give you an idea of what it’ll be like
@KiwiCarLife I'll check it out
Needs a better and smaller turbo but with that you'll want to drive the car again. I have a Chaser with the same engine.
Yeah man going to do another review on a chaser with a better setup soon
@KiwiCarLife I'm fishing for a better turbo/manifold combo as well. Mines at full boost around 3100. I want it closer to 2500 so I might change the whole thing out, still looking into it.
When it was stock it had twins and less lag.
VVTi 1JZ is single turbo. I had a JZX100 Chaser with this engine and R154 box, I had boost control problems with it and it lunched the turbine wheel in the turbo (they're ceramic in these).
The stock turbo hits pretty hard early on but tapers off at about 5500RPM off memory.
Yeah most stock turbos are designed for mid range power. An aftermarket turbo, but one smaller than this and better designed would deliver 300kW but at much lower, more usable RPM
The lag!! I have the same engine, Holset hx35 12cm twin scroll and 4.3 diff. Can hardly keep it off boost in 5th at 100kph (same roads even)
I know man! I'm sure your one would be a lot more peppy down low
Let me know if you want do drive an Estoril blue/black leather, stage 2-ed, M135i EWG N55, with a xHP-ed z8 box and full Bilstein setup, at some stage mate, when you're up in Auckland. To see what your car can end up like. Only thing missing is the LSD, which I will be doing.
That's excellent yes I would be most interested, send me an email - kiwicarlife@icloud.com
I call that 90's interior vinyl, "Elephant hide", cos it's grey and has wrinkles in it.
Yeah looks like it aye!
So its been restricted to 300kw with way too big of a turbocharger for maybe money or future power plans reasons.
Its also wild that its a 6 cylinder. But with K24 you would propably spool the turbo faster and make more power everywhere because the honda cylinder head breathes so much more and VTC/Vtec gives a lot better power band from down low to 9k.
Yeah I think with supporting mods that turbo is probably made for like 400-500kW. At 300kW it's too laggy to be useful and doesn't make extreme power at the top end to be worth the wait. Long gears don't help
Tuned to keep the engine safe...
I’ve spoken to a lot of people in the comments with 1JZ’s and they all agree the turbo design is just really old. With a smaller modern turbo it would make the same power just as reliably but boost would come in hard at 3k not slowly at 5
Love these cars. This needs a G30-660 and it'd be seeing boost solid by 3krpm
Yeah I reckon aye. Smaller turbo would do wonders
@@KiwiCarLife Just better newer tech. I have a G30-770 on a 2L 3sgte and even its seeing good boost by 4krpm
Should have a go in an Aristo. AKA Dad's Supra or the 4 door Supra.
Have driven a chaser, that was very good
@KiwiCarLife They're good too! The Aristo was the only other car to have the turbo 2JZ though :)
It actually had it before the Supra, too! First turbo Aristo was in 91 and the Supra in 93.
7.59 sketchy moment on boost around that corner bruv, esp w 300kw rwd. nice ride
Yeah man was a bit of a handful haha
It's a good sounding JZZ30 but that's about where it ends with the good... this a very rough example, the wheels don't even center on the hub which is probably why the steering wheel shakes? Your description of the shifter sounds like something is broken. The battery tie down is just hanging out in the bay and the lack of stereo surround is very untidy. It's great that Soarers are being appreciated and reviewed etc but poor examples really put the rest of the community in a bad light.
On a side note, being a JZ model it comes with far less options compared to the UZ models.
You ever heard of wheel balance being out? Those wheels are my cert space wheels and they need a new balance hence the shacking, the battery tie down not being put in place is because I usually take the battery out and in this particular day I forgot to tie down properly, lastly I do agree with you regarding the central pice missing it does make the car look a bit ugly however it’s not a rough example of a soarer, specially compared to a lot of them on the market today. Thank you for your input tho.
Some people just like to drive, not pose
The wheels he needs to have as they’re the correct offset for certification spec. Stereo surround would be nice but otherwise it’s a pretty well kept example especially for the age. Not every car is a brand new showroom spec example especially when they get to this age. The owner of this just enjoys driving it
@deeiaawad8283 I've had non hub centric steel wheels on a Soarer before, and it really didn't matter how well balanced they were it always gave vibration. If we just compare to rougher examples, then how do we get better :)
@KiwiCarLife I wouldn't expect it to be show room spec, but some attention to detail would go a long way in this particular case.
Bro, get a hybrid turbo and slightly smaller intercooler set up bet it'll be loose as shit
Yeah I reckon that's what this car needs aye
Must be fun on a wet road😮
Oh I imagine haha it would be a death trap
Needs it's arches rolled/pulled and coils lowered another inch and a half or so. Shouldn't be seeing the tops of those tires. Modern turbo will fix that lag quick, 400 hp on a 1jzgte vvti should be instant.
Yeah exactly that’s what I think too. The owner is seeking to make upgrades over time so in a year or so it’ll probably be instant 400hp as you suggest
Tune?
I think it’s a custom tune on a dyno
This is why you don't go big turbo. It makes the car suck to drive anywhere but a straight line
Yeah agree. Even the factory turbo while not as fast would be more fun to drive I reckon
I've seen drug addicts shake less than that steering. Cool car though, we're lucky to have access to these JDM cars.
HAHA yeah the wheels were quite out of balance
He should go to jail for having those rims.......
HAHAH
Never good as a supra but made popular drift cars in the uk
Yeah I guess it's the model down in a way?
@@KiwiCarLifeit's is since we never got the turbo version but people imported or converted them
You’re welcome to review my 280whp s14 if you’re ever in Christchurch mate. Bring a change of undies though because it is sketchy 😂
Haha definitely keen man! Hit me up at kiwicarlife@icloud.com
As an answer to all these stupid comments about the turbo, it's a GT3076. So the turbo itself is not a problem. Possibly the excessive lag comes from a combination of a massive turbine housing , like a T4 1.06 a/r (which maybe adequate for the 2JZ but too big for the 1JZ) , a very loosy wastegate that opens too early and unfortunate tuning, who knows, for sure it's not the "old technology turbo"
I don't know enough about turbo tech to confidently confirm or deny your analysis
@@KiwiCarLife you can ask other people that they know about turbochargers in your area. A GT3076 definitely won't be more laggy than a G30-770 that other people suggested. It would less powerful for sure, but more laggy, no. Also it's not oversized for the engine. But it could the reasons that I mentioned, could also a leaky blow off valve, who knows. Usually it's a combination of factors.
hell yeah
Oh yeahhh
At the least the seats look comfy
Very!
S1 have 1jz non vvti and the s2 have a 1jz vvti motor
Very nice!
Um, maybe change down a gear? Its not hard.
Into first? Every pull I did was in 2nd and it still took 5+ seconds to build boost
Uh... the H pattern should NOT be 'diagonal'...something is seriously fucked there!!
Another guy commented and said that's normal and all the old Toyota gearboxes had that quirk
@@KiwiCarLife Strange because having owned 4 different manual toyotas (and specifically a manual Soarer) none of them have a diagonal pattern?! I can only assume the gear knob was not aligned properly if you check your video you will see its on the piss, maybe that made it feel weird?
Definitely not street car/daily material. To be honest, these types of set-ups are licence takers 🤷✌️😎
Well, that's true I guess. It's only fun when you start going super quick because that's where the boost is. Shorter gears and a smaller turbo would do this car wonders
That's a badly theres no way it would be having soo much lag unless its running massive amounts of power
Yeah I feel like with this much lag you'd be expecting like 600kW haha
you gotta find a proper Toyota Soarer build
Don’t worry I have another one lined up!
All that money to probably get chopped by an ls1 commodore or an xr6 turbo worth half the price lol
With subtle changes this would definitely be quicker, but correct in its current state anything n/a or with a quicker spooling turbo would walk
nice
Yessss
Can't hold back my laughter xD xD
"OMG this is so fast" ... xD xD
him: literally going 70 mph at max.... xDxD
If you want to test such a car, get it on the Autobahn or one of the mexican roads without speed limit and punch through the gears and their full range of RPM, just then you can say if it really is fast, smooth or whatever...
Driving 60mph aint telling you sh*t about how the car drives...
Ahh yes so I’ll fly this car and myself to Germany just to keep you happy. Genius bro!
Fast can mean high speed yes, but it can also mean acceleration. Don’t have to do 200kmh to figure out it’s a quick car
Who cares if it's laggy that's the whole point so saying it's a waste of time is bullshit
There’s lag, and then there’s just a poorly tuned car. This is the latter. It ruins what would otherwise be a fantastic drive because you can hardly use the power it has available. Not to mention the fact it would be easily beaten by a much less powerful car. A smaller turbo and better tune would make similar power, but it would come in hard at 3000rpm
lol 300kw .. its not even 300hp..
The long gears and lag probably make it seem that way. But it's definitely making some serious power... briefly...
Probably one of the cringiest car review ive ever seen
Well I’m sorry to hear
These wheels are crazy ugly…
Owner said he has to have them on to get a WOF because that’s the spec it was certed with. Once he finishes all the mods he’ll put better wheels on and re-cert it
looks like a very china turbo, wouldnt be surprising that its laggy, but perhaps change a gear down further? lol, there are larger turbos by Garrett or Precision that come on HARD from 3000rpm.
Yeah man I reckon with the right turbo it would make the same power but at much lower RPM. Hard to change down any more gears when most of the time I was already in 2nd haha
Why is the steering wheel shaking so much 🤣
Wheels need a balance haha