AWD 5.0 Coyote Mustang Oil Pan Part 1, The plan - AWD Mustang Ep 19

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  • @paulbush7095
    @paulbush7095 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’ve never seen a YT project that involved as much engineering and CAD design as this one. It’s like watching what goes on in the engineering department of one of the big automakers but the whole engineering department is just one person.

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, I appreciate the comment. I am trying to explain the design process and how it isn't always very obvious.

    • @paperboyqc
      @paperboyqc ปีที่แล้ว

      So exceptional .
      Well built. Well done.
      Masterly explain .
      Merci.

    • @paulbush7095
      @paulbush7095 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mikecom32 I followed that series for a long time. Those guys were fantastic and were excellent machinists in their own right. Everything was way over engineered. How many hours did they spend on the windshield wiper assembly alone.

  • @nickcautrell2514
    @nickcautrell2514 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still working my way through the series. I love your problem solving steps. And can truly appreciate that tons of hours it takes to research all those parts and figure out what works together.

  • @stephengoates4085
    @stephengoates4085 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good oil pan situation would actually be a dry sump system

  • @fusionsvt00
    @fusionsvt00 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Most scanning software allows scanning from 2 positions and then you can join them for a seamless scan. You can also do a remesh using quads which allows higher fidelity with a lower file size

  • @notJW13383
    @notJW13383 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. I appreciate all the time spent producing them.

  • @Paul_D_Lashley
    @Paul_D_Lashley ปีที่แล้ว

    Every engineer is like let me redesign everything so this rack will fit, every mechanic is like put a manual rack in it and lets go. Great videos!

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am not going to lie, the thought of going hydraulic power steering did cross my mind. But, don't know how the computer would react.

    • @Paul_D_Lashley
      @Paul_D_Lashley ปีที่แล้ว

      @@npvg your solutions have gotten you this far. I’m not if the car will even operate without whatever signal it gets from that module. People get upset over different manufacturers parts on cars, like nobody ever put a Cadillac motor in a T bucket or a 9 in rear under a Camaro. Just keep doing what you’re doing. If it were easy everyone would do it.

  • @fjord-fjesta
    @fjord-fjesta ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve just binge watched the whole project to this point over the past few days. The fact that the unibody clears a CV so well while only modifying the subframe makes me think this whole thing, with some development, could be a kit. Very exciting prospect.
    You may have answered this on one of the earlier videos, but do you expect to integrate transfer case control into the Mustang body/engine controls or will it be stand-alone? I’ve been surprised by how easy you made it look to adjust parameters like gear ratios, but I have to imagine adding a function like transfer case PWM into the traction control strategy could be a lot more complicated.

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am going to use a stand alone controller for the transfer case. There are several that are available.

  • @05Yote
    @05Yote ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe a tubular k member will help.

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If I make one from scratch it would. I don't see the point of spending $1000 for a k-member just to cut a bunch of it off.

  • @SRFirefox
    @SRFirefox ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @12:00 Toyota Prius power steering assist uses a motor on the steering shaft rather than on the rack. Might switching to a manual rack with the toyota steering shaft give you the space you need?

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am concerned about the car freaking out if the current electronic rack is not plugged in. Otherwise I seriously considered switching to a hydraulic rack, which would probably have better feedback.

  • @Jumpnjahosofat
    @Jumpnjahosofat ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait to see this thing launch.

  • @josephcervantes6872
    @josephcervantes6872 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    100th like! Awesome progress.

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks, I am starting to thrash to get it on the wheels.

    • @josephcervantes6872
      @josephcervantes6872 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@npvg when this gets finished you will blow up! You will have so many requests of how you did this. I can't wait till people see what you can do.

  • @adubbelde1
    @adubbelde1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I suspect there might be some double U-Joint Borgesons in your future

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think so actually, I will just have to make a small extension.

  • @jpabon18
    @jpabon18 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awrsome video series, I look sooo forward to new video drops! Thank you for your hard work, I appreciate your skills 👍🏼

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks!

  • @MattSoppa
    @MattSoppa ปีที่แล้ว

    Moving the rack forward or backwards is going to dramatically change your Ackerman as well

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว

      It is very likely that it will affect it. Will it be a big deal is the question. I can make offset inner tie rod mounts if it becomes a problem, like what some drift cars use.

    • @MattSoppa
      @MattSoppa ปีที่แล้ว

      @@npvg as a drifter and suspension guru I know it will. Ran into the same problem with my RWD fusion and changing the ball joint position.

  • @geraldrodriguez5739
    @geraldrodriguez5739 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 1:30 you said "the STL file is then symplified ..." how didyoudo that? What software did you use?

  • @SlackerGlobal
    @SlackerGlobal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about replacing that steering rack with one that puts the motor inline with the steering shaft itself? You could get a smaller rack and pinion without all extras inside and have more placement options for the motor itself.

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would go hydraulic before that. But, the real reason is that I am concerned about the car's ECM freaking out if there is not a electric rack to talk to.

    • @SlackerGlobal
      @SlackerGlobal ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@npvg Makes sense. I'm kinda over chasing hydraulic leaks at this point😅 Figuring out how to plan around the electric booster has me spooked.
      Your build is definitely inspirational. I'm glad to be here for the ride.

    • @fordmooreperformance8079
      @fordmooreperformance8079 ปีที่แล้ว

      Get in touch with power by the hour and Lund Racing for your tune. They do thousands of swap cars. They can advise you on keeping the electronics happy.

    • @fordmooreperformance8079
      @fordmooreperformance8079 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can get you an Ngauge if you go that route. Best device ever made for factory ECU tuning.

  • @fordmooreperformance8079
    @fordmooreperformance8079 ปีที่แล้ว

    So awesome woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @fordmooreperformance8079
    @fordmooreperformance8079 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got a stock 2016 k member if you need one. Left over from a steeda k member upgrade. I bet you could get the steeda cad drawing if you wanted to try it instead!

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว

      Where are you located?

    • @fordmooreperformance8079
      @fordmooreperformance8079 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@npvg Southeast Washington near Hanford nuclear facility

  • @Liam_Pluxury
    @Liam_Pluxury ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much time its gonna take i cant wait 😅

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am trying to get it on the wheels again in July.

  • @scottperfetti8026
    @scottperfetti8026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cut, angle and re-weld the steering input on the steering rack?

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t quite understand what you are suggesting? Can you elaborate?

  • @goodkill1
    @goodkill1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Have you thought about a manual rack with a column assisted power steering? Like a Prius?

  • @Darkipod
    @Darkipod ปีที่แล้ว

    I just started watching this series, very very interesting. I would like to cut my own splines and involute splines, could you maybe help me find where you purchased tooling? I have some ideas for other projects but shafts are constantly an issue.

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am using tooling from Advent tool.
      adventtoolusa.com/
      I can be more exact if you need me to. But, basically you need to buy a holder and then determine what insert you need for the exact spline you are making. The holder is about $200 and the inserts are about $50, but they seem to last a long time. Let me know if you need more help.

  • @nissejarnet
    @nissejarnet ปีที่แล้ว

    You probably already know this, but you should really try to make the front CV shafts the same length :)
    Looks good!

    • @briankuhn7396
      @briankuhn7396 ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven’t watched the entire video… Hopefully he’s using an intermediate shaft to keep the cv shafts equal length.

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, my goal is to make them the same length.

  • @G5Ckxew
    @G5Ckxew ปีที่แล้ว

    @8:50 - I'm concerned that your proposed jack-shaft location is dangerously close to your #2 and #6 connecting rod caps. Are you sure it's going to clear the full range of rotation? I think it might be a good idea to 3D print a modular fixture to place on the block's oil pan mating surface to take measurements. Or maybe just lay some 1-2-3 blocks on the surface and lay a straight edge across.

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a legitimate concern. You are absolutely correct, the cross tube for the jack shaft is going to be directly below the crank through. I basically did what you are suggesting and if I did everything correctly, I should about 0.100 inches of clearance to the rod bolts. Common internet wisdom suggest .08 is enough.

  • @adubbelde1
    @adubbelde1 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you're doing all this, do you think back to the Merkur and wonder what it would have been like to have 3D printing?

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      3D printing and my own cnc mill😁

  • @crazybenny747
    @crazybenny747 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any reason why you haven't just adapted a 5.7 hemi AWD Hemi oil pan, diff, and rack to fit? I imagine you could cut the top of the pan off and and weld in a new mounting surface for the ford block. A police dodge charger AWD Hemi would be a perfect donor.

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The simple answer is I want to try and keep the Mustang front suspension geometry.
      The longer answer is that the Charger front diff is sort of an odd ball and there are not a lot of gears ratios or limited slips available for it. In the Chrysler applications, they are all 3.07, which is not good for a manual transmission.

    • @fordmooreperformance8079
      @fordmooreperformance8079 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said

  • @eformance
    @eformance ปีที่แล้ว

    Dumb question, but why not swap the rack for a fluid power steering rack and use an electric power steering pump?

    • @npvg
      @npvg  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am concerned the car will freak out if the electric rack is not plugged in. I am not sure it can be turned off with Forscan?