That first pitch talks like a scam. He kept misinterpreting Deborah’s worry about understanding the type of pain you’re feeling when using it. She asked very clearly how would I know if the discomfort I’m feeling is the “mechanism” is working or me making a mistake. He kept just focusing on the pain and ignored what her real question is. Sounds like a MLM man who avoids and diverts a concern.
@@rf159a So are a lot of pyramid schemes, doesn't mean they're not a scam. I don't think Mr. 'i'M a DoCToR oF TRaDiTioNaL CHiNeSe MeDiCiNe' is a scam, by the by, but I don't think being a scam or not precludes one from being lucrative.
I like how the first guy calls himself a doctor, because he studied "traditional Chinese medicine" for 20 years. I don't know about calling ya a doctor buddy lol😂
He's a very rich "Doctor" now! After the dragons den their company went from £200,000 to £3 million in just one year, helped by many celebrity endorsements of the product. This was one pitch that the dragons got wrong by rejecting it.
There are many rich and successful Chinese doctors. Just because a school is in Asia does not make degrees imaginary. Surgery is performed all over the world, are they not doctors?
@@vibecity5381 there's a difference between what hospitals perform and 'traditional Chinese medicine.' TCM is not what is practiced in your local hospital.
@@donchamers6916 no they got it right. These people aren't so desperate for a few thousand dollars that they want to associate their name with a clear scam on TV
11:23: "I gave up trusting reports a long time ago. I believe in results." That is a scary thing to hear from someone claiming to be a medical professional.
The second one was odd. How do those chairs make you 'lose weight' unless you're in those chairs and NOT EATING AT ALL? No exercise is involved so it's completely unfounded. The smoking one might have some value though if people ARENT smoking if people are there.
Piss*d myself when the 2nd guy came up the stairs! I will never forget him! Debroah loved Hillary exhausting herself! Really, how did he even turn over 200k?
I had a couple of major back operations in 2010, prior to that I tried everything I found on the market to prevent that but nothing helped. None of the gimmick devices are worth the effort. My back was so bad I was turned down by 4 Chiropractors before turning to the dark side of gimmicks.
@@JeremiahEcks777 the first surgery they removed 6 discs and replaced them with plastic cages filled with bone shavings from the rib they removed too. the next day they put in 2 12" rods with 14 screws. the original problem was fixed but unfortunately the surgeon messed up a different part of my back and now I have to walk with a cane. I waited 28 years until I couldn't stand the pain to have to operations and now I regret having it. Nothing, gimmick wise has helped.
The first duo, I reckon the quiet one knew exactly what they’d say and the other one bullied him into going. He looked pretty smug to me, holding his, “I told you so”.
@@oliveryoung6845 What do you mean AI writes degrees? It's a qualification, how can you write it. Also that clip is from 2009, what AI was "writing degrees" back then.
25k for 10% of the company is very little money tor quite the share. Bargain selling their company either means the product is bad or they just came on dragons den for marketing. Well after hearing the news that they made massive bank after the episode it is most likely the latter.
you can tell by the way hes talking that first one is a blagger used to blagging his way through life, i wouldn't trust him telling me the weather,looks like hes scooped up that poor guy to be his piggy bank.there's one born everyday lol the second one IT COULD BE 5 MILLION was enough for me buy buy BS guy
Comparing the loon in the first pitch to 'an actual spine doctor' is an unbelievable insult to the amount of scientifically-backed, rigorous, results-driven training that ACTUAL spine doctors undertake.
That first pitch talks like a scam. He kept misinterpreting Deborah’s worry about understanding the type of pain you’re feeling when using it. She asked very clearly how would I know if the discomfort I’m feeling is the “mechanism” is working or me making a mistake. He kept just focusing on the pain and ignored what her real question is. Sounds like a MLM man who avoids and diverts a concern.
They are still in business.
@@rf159a So are a lot of pyramid schemes, doesn't mean they're not a scam. I don't think Mr. 'i'M a DoCToR oF TRaDiTioNaL CHiNeSe MeDiCiNe' is a scam, by the by, but I don't think being a scam or not precludes one from being lucrative.
It IS a scam, he's not a real doctor.
@@rf159astill scamming
He's a chiropractor... those guys are always a bit scammy :D
I like how the first guy calls himself a doctor, because he studied "traditional Chinese medicine" for 20 years. I don't know about calling ya a doctor buddy lol😂
He's a very rich "Doctor" now! After the dragons den their company went from £200,000 to £3 million in just one year, helped by many celebrity endorsements of the product. This was one pitch that the dragons got wrong by rejecting it.
There are many rich and successful Chinese doctors. Just because a school is in Asia does not make degrees imaginary. Surgery is performed all over the world, are they not doctors?
@@vibecity5381 there's a difference between what hospitals perform and 'traditional Chinese medicine.'
TCM is not what is practiced in your local hospital.
@@donchamers6916 no they got it right. These people aren't so desperate for a few thousand dollars that they want to associate their name with a clear scam on TV
11:23: "I gave up trusting reports a long time ago. I believe in results."
That is a scary thing to hear from someone claiming to be a medical professional.
For the first one, there's is definitely a "Okay, you did this for 20 years...why are you no longer doing it?"
Cause he's a highly qualified DOCTOR (of Chinese medicine)
Im a doctor,( of Chinese medicine)
Oh! A bull💩 doctor!! 🤣🤣🤣
There is nothing wrong or funny with traditional Chinese doctors.
@@peterreber7671 Too bad you didn't get the money. Better luck next time.
@@peterreber7671unless you want an effective solution.
@@peterreber7671nothing wrong with them, but they are not doctors
The second one was odd. How do those chairs make you 'lose weight' unless you're in those chairs and NOT EATING AT ALL? No exercise is involved so it's completely unfounded. The smoking one might have some value though if people ARENT smoking if people are there.
Man Hilary is awesome, said what everyone was thinking. rest in peace
Piss*d myself when the 2nd guy came up the stairs! I will never forget him! Debroah loved Hillary exhausting herself! Really, how did he even turn over 200k?
I love the last guy hope he did really well with it
He’s a scammer now
@@ciarangrey7576haha read the reviews all 1 star complaining that they didn’t get what they paid for
@@ciarangrey7576 I think they are being sarcastic
These three presentations seemed rather depressing with how they ended up...
Unemployed
On the first pitch I honestly thought Jenny was going to make an offer 🤣🤣🤣
2nd one was selling the HYPNOSIS CHAIR
Dont know why the last one was included. He was brilliant. SO MANY MORE pitches with unreliable claims, like that 'Progains' guy!
He ended up scamming a bunch of people and the complains flowed in of people paying him and not getting anything out of it.
Yes another episode 😊
Third fellow seems very credible. Lets see how this goes
He scammed loads of people, that's how it went.
oh the famous Extreme Liars 😁 the infamous Indigogo Project has replies approaching 40,000 and still no drone after 5 years 😆
I had a couple of major back operations in 2010, prior to that I tried everything I found on the market to prevent that but nothing helped. None of the gimmick devices are worth the effort. My back was so bad I was turned down by 4 Chiropractors before turning to the dark side of gimmicks.
How has it ended up for you? Did you get some relief?
@@JeremiahEcks777 the first surgery they removed 6 discs and replaced them with plastic cages filled with bone shavings from the rib they removed too. the next day they put in 2 12" rods with 14 screws. the original problem was fixed but unfortunately the surgeon messed up a different part of my back and now I have to walk with a cane. I waited 28 years until I couldn't stand the pain to have to operations and now I regret having it. Nothing, gimmick wise has helped.
@@Crash33333a I'm sorry to hear about this.
I wish and pray somehow they find a way to provide you a much better quality of life.
The first duo, I reckon the quiet one knew exactly what they’d say and the other one bullied him into going. He looked pretty smug to me, holding his, “I told you so”.
Saying you were 2 marks off a first is a very insecure way of saying you're on a 2.1 lmao
Haha trust me the amount of degrees which are written by ai is crazy
That's still a good result!
@@oliveryoung6845 lolwhat?
Ohhhh.... your comment was written by AI, I get it :D
@@oliveryoung6845 What do you mean AI writes degrees? It's a qualification, how can you write it. Also that clip is from 2009, what AI was "writing degrees" back then.
Vernon the man!!!
Good advice from theo..❤
No wonder the NHS is going down, when it uses the services of this scammer in Pitch No.2.
19:35 that pained smile is delicious muhuhuhuhuua
That’s a lot of wishy washy language to describe what should be a scientific medical device.
25k for 10% of the company is very little money tor quite the share. Bargain selling their company either means the product is bad or they just came on dragons den for marketing.
Well after hearing the news that they made massive bank after the episode it is most likely the latter.
"i'm a doctor.......of traditional chinese medicine" oh okay. he had us in the first half i ain't gonna lie
I'm a soldier.....in Call of Duty
God why does the third guy make so many mouth sounds?
Because he’s an irritating boffin
Nearly made my head explode
Funny - every single time I hear anyone say "The fact of the matter is", whatever they have to say, is not worth listening to.
This is Fish and Chips without Salt and Vinegar !
Ofc there is a Buddha head next to the chairs (second pitch). :/
Jenny - Thank you for bringing these scky products into the den - You're IN but I'm OUT!
RIP Hillary you really was 1 of a kind
Miruji Health is OUT of Business!!
I'm so surprised 😂
The first guys managed to use the word "simultaneously" and the phrase "at the same time" in the same sentence. Should anyone take him seriously?
But he's a DoCToR oF CHiNeSe MeDiCiNe so clearly he knows what he's doing, surely?
Glad I'm not the only one that picked it up! Like filling out an essay with unnecessary words to hit the wordcount!
@@michaellynn9763you’re right and correct. I agree and concur.
The best treatment for backpain is walking. Cost you nothing.
Vernon the rat
I don't see how a doctor of Chinese medicine is an expert on back pain 😅
Extreme Fliers is STILL in Business.
I just checked the company and it's dissolved. Where are you getting your information?
It's not
@@BenjaminGooselooks like he started a new one and scammed a ton of people. 1 star reviews all around
Where's Giselle Boxer?
13:36 - 13:40😂
what happened to the young guy?
He scammed a ton of people online
snake oil
you can tell by the way hes talking that first one is a blagger used to blagging his way through life, i wouldn't trust him telling me the weather,looks like hes scooped up that poor guy to be his piggy bank.there's one born everyday lol
the second one IT COULD BE 5 MILLION was enough for me buy buy BS guy
Hello. I'm jenny. I don't have 2 brain cells to rub together. Something smells fishy, that's why I'm trout
First one total dork😅
I just farted
😐
Nice. DId your cheeks flap?
Congrats
Excuse you!
Why shouldn't you be passionate about your product? The first guy was an actual spine doctor so why not believe him?
Because he is a doctor in TCM which is a scam lol
Less of a scam than a commenter claiming something is a scam without evidence.
Comparing the loon in the first pitch to 'an actual spine doctor' is an unbelievable insult to the amount of scientifically-backed, rigorous, results-driven training that ACTUAL spine doctors undertake.
Second pitch was such a textbook example of being a scam, I thought the presenter was an Indian.😂
Please jenny camble just get out from there, you’re wasting people time and nerves
Who is sara? There's noone called sara in this whole video!
Jenny*
@@lee6023sorry I mean Jenny my mistake
"And for that reason I'm out"