Who were the Elamites? History of Ancient Elam

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    Who were the Elamites? History of Ancient Elam Documentary
    From the proto Elamites through the old middles and Neo Elamite periods to the dissolution of their state
    Sources:
    The Archaeology of Elam : By D. T. Potts
    The Elamite World : edited by Javier Álvarez-Mon, Gian Pietro Basello
    A History of the Ancient Near East, ca. 3000-323 BC by Marc Van De Mieroop

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  • @EpimetheusHistory
    @EpimetheusHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +455

    Notes:
    The coastline shown on the map I drew is the ancient coast line. So on modern maps the archaeological site of Susa will be shown looking further from the modern coast line compared to this map above. if you look at the light blue areas at the top of the gulf that corresponds to the modern coastline.
    One of the most interesting things I find about the Elam is their unusual matrilineal royal succession. It might have been beneficial having an heir who could be raised with the full attention of both parents and not a monarch too busy running the country. It interesting to theorize on the potential benefits of this system.

    • @amiroo0o581
      @amiroo0o581 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Epimetheus Persian gulf my brother, not THE GULF. U’re an educated person cmon

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Using the ancient coastline is a sign of quality, of love of details (and details do matter a lot).
      IMO if the royals were matrilineal, all society was, there's no reason to have been different. A lot of Neolithic populations through the World are or have been matrilineal, for example the Iroquois, or many African nations as well.

    • @_robustus_
      @_robustus_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Did you intend the map having the Kassites from the plateau instead of the Zagros? Is there archeology supporting this?

    • @tyronechillifoot5573
      @tyronechillifoot5573 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was actually a common thing in states along the african sahel

    • @sfccapello
      @sfccapello 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brother make a video about the Arameans, they are still alive, the todays Syriacs.

  • @timomastosalo
    @timomastosalo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +588

    England and France: We have this long-lasting frenemy thing going on.
    Iraq and Iran: What do you mean with long-lasting?

    • @Hanesboi
      @Hanesboi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      LMAO so true

    • @ousamadearu5960
      @ousamadearu5960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      China, Korea, Japan: Hold our wine.

    • @chadthunderstorm8148
      @chadthunderstorm8148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

      @@ousamadearu5960 not as old as Mesopotamia.

    • @ousamadearu5960
      @ousamadearu5960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@chadthunderstorm8148 you do not get the joke do you?

    • @wildfire9280
      @wildfire9280 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@ousamadearu5960 The joke is wrong, so...

  • @supremelordoftheauspicious2928
    @supremelordoftheauspicious2928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +291

    Fun facts related to elamites:
    1:The name of their city , Susa was Persianized as Huz in Old Persian, through common sound changes this word became Khuz and to this day the province in south western Iran that was previously inhabited be Elamites is still called Khuzestan and it is inhabited by mostly Lurs and a considerable Arab minority which again raises the question if Lurs are related to Elamites.
    2: The Elamite language might have survived well until the 8th century, as a Muslim geographer (don't remember his name) mentions a language which he calls Khuzi spoken in south western modern Iran's province of Khuzestan.
    3: The city of Susa still exists, known as Shush in Iran and has a population of 77000 people(according to wikipedia)
    4: There is a province called Ilam(i.e. elam) in Iran although not located in the exact location of their civilization but still gets its name from them.

    • @_robustus_
      @_robustus_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No matter what language was spoken in khuzistan, it would be called khuzi by outsiders.

    • @supremelordoftheauspicious2928
      @supremelordoftheauspicious2928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Robustus True that, but still a possibility

    • @7afeedalsunnah218
      @7afeedalsunnah218 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      West Khuzestan is almost completely Arab, most of Khuzestan was before the mountain dwelling Lors moved j to the region.

    • @hassanbassim4007
      @hassanbassim4007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think the Muslim scholar was talking about the Sumerian language , I think you are talking about Al-Jahiz who is a famous Muslim historian and scientist in Basra city on southern Iraq , I red an article from one of his books and he did said that an unknown language still spoken in the region that is not Aramaic nor Persian .

    • @fanzy1338
      @fanzy1338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      7afeed Al Sunnah In Khuzestan province only 30% speak Arabic of which 15% are ethnic Arab. The rest are Lurs, Qashqai, Afshar, indigenous Persians, Iranian Armenians, and half of Khuzestan’s population is Bakhtiari.

  • @omegaink5635
    @omegaink5635 5 ปีที่แล้ว +419

    I love ancient middle eastern civilizations.

    • @jibriel4918
      @jibriel4918 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      😉

    • @resistance-is-growing7632
      @resistance-is-growing7632 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      *West Asian* is the correct name.

    • @omegaink5635
      @omegaink5635 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@resistance-is-growing7632 I don't think so

    • @resistance-is-growing7632
      @resistance-is-growing7632 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@omegaink5635 those countries you Westerns claim to be Middle Easterns are part of Asia, they are Asian countries. Google it and you will see.

    • @omegaink5635
      @omegaink5635 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@resistance-is-growing7632 I looked it up, & your not wrong, however I call it the middle East because it's literally in the middle of Africa & west Asia.

  • @killthecensors58
    @killthecensors58 5 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Elam and Assyria were among the few states that (temporarily) benefitted from the chaos of the Bronze Age collapse.

    • @ar_ikramaliaskar7197
      @ar_ikramaliaskar7197 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you help me

    • @iaw7406
      @iaw7406 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its a shame elam no longer exists.

    • @TRAINAlytics
      @TRAINAlytics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@iaw7406 The destruction of Elam as an independent state is closer to our time than to the founding of their state.

    • @thenoblepoptart
      @thenoblepoptart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No, they suffered tremendously like any other civilization during this time. Just because they weren’t completely annihilated like the hittites and so had a comparative “advantage” didn’t mean that it wasn’t a time of huge decline for Ashur, Susa, and Anshan.

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thenoblepoptart Ashwar deserves death, King Nebuchadnezzar and Medibin killed all the Assyrians

  • @HistoryMarche
    @HistoryMarche 5 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Wow, I'm reading an article (or rather a post) about Elamites, and this pops up. Awesome!

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      :D That's Awesome!

    • @HistoryMarche
      @HistoryMarche 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@EpimetheusHistory It's great that you touched on their language. I find it quite fascinating.

    • @Toxicremixes
      @Toxicremixes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      im an iranian lor i have many many informations about elamites and history of iran with strong evidences u can give me your mobile phone number to chat in whatsapp or your instagram id i love to share my info with foreigners

    • @hayellada-ball3836
      @hayellada-ball3836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@EpimetheusHistory is Elam Persia?!

    • @manusharma3371
      @manusharma3371 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Toxicremixes will email do?

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +400

    Iranian history is criminally underrated

    • @zigzag5198
      @zigzag5198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Son of Mountain Don’t insult yourself

    • @micahistory
      @micahistory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zigzag5198 yeah

    • @hannibalbarca2928
      @hannibalbarca2928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      The people of Elamites, Jiroft and Medes are not ancestors of modern Iranian people.they did not come with the indo-europeans migration 2900 years ago.

    • @josem.deteresa2282
      @josem.deteresa2282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Fortunately the proto-elamite script has just been decyphered. I hope a large corpus of texts is found, and THAT will really change things!

    • @abloodorange5233
      @abloodorange5233 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@hannibalbarca2928 obviously with any population conquering and taken over s region they marry the women, so Iranian people are somewhat connected perhaps matrilineal.

  • @BalPanicker
    @BalPanicker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    The Elamite inheritance model of your oldest sister's eldest son being your heir, was practised until less than hundred years ago in Southern India, especially kerala. This system is known as "Marumakkathayam" (Marumakan means Nephew/Son-in-law as first cousin marriages were always encouraged in those times and thus was used interchangeably) In tamil language, the word Elam means something that can be translated as an Ethnic Nation.

    • @senaeco
      @senaeco ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It is also in vouge as "Aliya Santhana" in coastal Karnataka. Aliya = Nephew, Son-in-law, Santhana = progeny, generation. All over South India, Maharastra, Gujrat the relation ship between maternal uncle and the nephew is very special, they have a important place in their lives and all the life rituals.

    • @BalPanicker
      @BalPanicker ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@senaeco Aliya is a word in Malayalam too which means brother in law. Santhana is of Sanskrit origin which means progeny I believe

    • @thenoobprincev2529
      @thenoobprincev2529 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The name Elam was an Akkadian Exonym. The Elamites called their own land "Hatamti".

    • @senaeco
      @senaeco ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@thenoobprincev2529 Absolutely, at the same time. There are cognates which are common to Dravidian languages and Semitic languages since ancient times.

    • @prateeksharma6706
      @prateeksharma6706 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As a north indian hindi speaker i think Dravidian languages are just too underrated 😬

  • @coracias4523
    @coracias4523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    I live in Khuzestan ,the ancient homeland of Elamites🤗

    • @johnsmith-rk5mn
      @johnsmith-rk5mn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Greetings! My family is from there and I have dim memories of time spent in the region. That was 35 years ago and have not had an opportunity to go back since.

    • @alvarez985
      @alvarez985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      This Elamite approves!

    • @cyrusthegreat1893
      @cyrusthegreat1893 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Are you from Ahwaz or Ābādān?

    • @coracias4523
      @coracias4523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@cyrusthegreat1893 ahwaz

    • @coracias4523
      @coracias4523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@johnsmith-rk5mn nice to meet you bro. I wish this province return to it's golden age

  • @shark7n10
    @shark7n10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    I’m from Kerala, A Dravidian state in India and historically the Kings of our land also had a maternal succession just like the Elamites. There is much history out there to still be discovered and discussed!

    • @Brahmdagh
      @Brahmdagh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      How did that succession system work? When was it in practice?

    • @shark7n10
      @shark7n10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Brahmdagh You can check about the last rulers of Kerala, The Kingdom of Travancore and many previous Kingdoms like the Cheras.....The King's eldest sister's son would be the heir traditionally.

    • @vanisridhar5509
      @vanisridhar5509 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @saewha Elamites are Dravidians ancestors. Creators of indus.

    • @user-si5ci4bh9y
      @user-si5ci4bh9y หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vanisridhar5509 No, the Elamites are not the ancestors of the Dravidians. They have no historical connection with the Dravidians, just that the language they spoke is similar to the Dravidians. Stop falsifying history. It is more likely that the Elamites were closer to the Iranian peoples.

    • @user-si5ci4bh9y
      @user-si5ci4bh9y หลายเดือนก่อน

      The testimonies about the history of the Dravidians are half-baked. They often have a bad habit of trying to link the history of the Dravidians to ancient civilizations. The historical basis for the idea that the Aryans and the Dravidians are the same ethnic group is too weak.😅

  • @antonteodor6305
    @antonteodor6305 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Damn, the Elamites were neither the heart of Mesopotamia (Sumer/Akkad/Babylon), nor fierce conquerors (Assyria), nor one of the most enduring and recognisable cultures on Earth (Egypt), yet they are as important and interesting as any of these three

    • @EasternOrthodox101
      @EasternOrthodox101 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@chheinrich8486 Clearly the dude doesn't understand that:
      a) Persia = Elam
      b) Elamites were conquering Mesopotamia just like everyone else

    • @chheinrich8486
      @chheinrich8486 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EasternOrthodox101 yeah right,

    • @shutruk-nahunte3309
      @shutruk-nahunte3309 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@EasternOrthodox101Persia has nothing to do with Elam Elam is khuzestans history

    • @EasternOrthodox101
      @EasternOrthodox101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shutruk-nahunte3309 🤦Get education cl0wns...

    • @AverageHandEnjoyer-jp3xu
      @AverageHandEnjoyer-jp3xu หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sumer is far more interesting

  • @DemetriosLevi
    @DemetriosLevi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    The Elamites were always fascinating to me, especially since they're a language isolate. That always makes a people more mysterious. Great as always!

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      My take is that Neolithic West Asia was a complex linguistic landscape, with many language families (isolates or near isolates or related to each other in ways too obscure for us to discern) and that some of them expanded outwards: one was the proto-Vasconic, which was surely spoken in Neolithic Anatolia and spread to Europe, another was Elamo-Dravidian (it must be a thing), which expanded to India around the same time, maybe even a precursor of proto-Indoeuropean expanded northwards to the Russian steppe, etc. (more families are involved, certainly the three Caucasian ones, plus Sumerian, plus Semitic plus, proto-Pelsago-Tyrsenian, plus maybe even Nubian and who-knows-what). So that's why we find so many isolates in that region and not so much in Europe or India, where only some of those branches expanded to.

    • @zigzag5198
      @zigzag5198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Luis Aldamiz Interesting hypothesis. If it appears to be accurate, Middle-East/West Asia as a whole would indeed really be the cradle of civilization

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@zigzag5198 - It is for sure the craddle of Neolithic for all Western Eurasia, India, North and East Africa. However East Asia, Papua and the Americas had their own independent Neolithic developments. The advent of genetics and especially archaeogenetics made us realize that whole populations migrated in all directions, that it wasn't for the greatest part just people learning from their more advanced neighbors as not so long ago was believed.

    • @vijayrajasekaram8113
      @vijayrajasekaram8113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@LuisAldamiz Elam is a pure Tamil word and really supprised to here the same spelling and pronouncian. Tamil is South Indian, one of Dravidian language and the oldest clasical, living language in the world. Tamil researchers believe Mesopotamians, Sumerians should have connection to Tamils.

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@vijayrajasekaram8113 - Tamil is only one of many Dravidian languages, including critically Brahui, which is a fossil from the very first Indian (or South Asian) Neolithic and the Indus Valley Civilization.
      A single word is useless to show association or not, serious linguists use much longer standardized lists or other even more complicated and difficult methods to discern relationship between languages. But indeed Elamo-Dravidian has been argued for a very long time already and seems very plausible not just from the linguistic but also archaeological and genetic viewpoints.
      As for the Sumerians they were a different nation with a different language, my personal take is that Sumerian is rather related to NE Caucasian (Chechen and such) via Hurrian but I'm not certain at all, it just seems closer than to others on primary evaluation. Sumerian surely had influence on IVC Dravidian and vice versa but horizontally, via contact and well documented trade. I understand that the word "uru" (city) made it to Dravidian, much as the related word "ili" (and variants: "iri", "uri", "uli", probably from Palestine or the Aegean) made it to the West (Basque hiri, ancient Iberian ili, anicent Aquitanian eli, Tartessian uba, Latin urbs, etc.) This is a very clear case of wanderwort (migrant word, like could be modernly "telephone" or "Internet" or "video" or "nuclear missile"). So beware of too filmsy single-word connections!

  • @gorgon6680
    @gorgon6680 5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    You really are spoiling us with these frequent uploads.

  • @bobsvagene3021
    @bobsvagene3021 5 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    I believe Persian culture was heavily influenced by the elamites. The elamites probably mixed with the other Iranians and Persians as well and got assimilated fully.

    • @hassanbassim4007
      @hassanbassim4007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      John smith Persian culture got heavily influenced by the Mesopotamian one , Elamites were already eliminated and their civilization vanished by the Assyrians before Persian tribes cane to the region .

    • @lightshedd986
      @lightshedd986 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Elamits were among the most influencial Iranians who contributed to the establishment and management of the Persian empire . They basically chose an Iranian/ Persian Id.

    • @ghanvedsingh8946
      @ghanvedsingh8946 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Baluchis are the most probable inheritors of the Elamites and there is town ilam in eastern Nepal too

    • @scientificatheist9381
      @scientificatheist9381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dravidian

    • @CirosKhan
      @CirosKhan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's what humans do, you learn, adapt amd improve

  • @nikzad2167
    @nikzad2167 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I'm from Iran and i didn't know much about Elam! The city of pillars it's known in Iran

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Iranian history is very long and interesting. I love learning more about it

    • @Julius1997.
      @Julius1997. 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Elam is pre-Iranian ;-)

    • @micahistory
      @micahistory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@Julius1997. I am talking about the area that is now Iran

    • @bayan6325
      @bayan6325 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Persian empire covered Ethiopia to india amazing indeed

    • @micahistory
      @micahistory 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bayan6325 yup

    • @adityanawani8134
      @adityanawani8134 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Baya N
      India?
      When?😏😏😏

  • @jozz2248
    @jozz2248 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Good stuff, much of this history is criminally under appreciated. I hadn't heard much of that before. Thanks so much for sharing. 👏🍻

  • @thedoruk6324
    @thedoruk6324 5 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    The Great historian has returneth!
    The high-king emissary of the achaemenid squarespace! :)

    • @avtaras
      @avtaras 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lmao yeah, why did he repeat the same advert again?

    • @stegotyranno4206
      @stegotyranno4206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ey Doruk, is great to see ya here.

    • @thedoruk6324
      @thedoruk6324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stegotyranno4206 Hello!

    • @stegotyranno4206
      @stegotyranno4206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thedoruk6324 its super cool how we both have such similar interests

    • @thedoruk6324
      @thedoruk6324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stegotyranno4206 Agreed glad to know the great channels have good people

  • @saeedmohammadi3719
    @saeedmohammadi3719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    susa(shush in farsi language) and elam or ilam are names of cities
    in the same places in iran now

    • @dreamland7078
      @dreamland7078 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      اون استان ایلام اصلا در محدوده ی عیلامی ها نیست ۹۰ درصدش و توسط رصا شاه ایجاد شد و بار سیاسی داره برای جدا کردن لرها از هم

    • @saeedmohammadi3719
      @saeedmohammadi3719 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dreamland7078 میدونم

    • @xerxes8191
      @xerxes8191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Susa is Persian name

    • @dreamland7078
      @dreamland7078 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xerxes8191 actually shusha is what Elamites called the city so it's not persian but I know what you mean

    • @xerxes8191
      @xerxes8191 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dreamland7078 please read the inscriptions of Darius the great

  • @bungalo50
    @bungalo50 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Wow I had no idea elamite used to be the official language in the first persian empire. You cover the best topics dude!

  • @shayanmobasheri5605
    @shayanmobasheri5605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Thank you for showing an interest in the history of our precious country IRAN 😍

    • @islamislam-zw3il
      @islamislam-zw3il 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Iran *was * a great nation , homeland to many civilizations ..
      Until prophet -of -doom 's caliphate showed up ...😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @shayanmobasheri5605
      @shayanmobasheri5605 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@islamislam-zw3il that is not true . Iran is still a great nation and we have many sources of guidance including our national book the Shahname and also the words of the Prophet (peace be upon him). In Iran Islam is not against our national interest unless we Make it . Zoroastrianism was far more complicated than Islam and although that is my heritage as well but I think Iranians have made Islam great too

    • @charlesroberts3650
      @charlesroberts3650 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@islamislam-zw3il Although I am a Christian, Christianity has been around for much longer and people (i.e. Catholics, Protestants etc.) have perpetrated more evil upon the world under the guise of "Christendom" than any other religion. The yoke of colonialism, spearheaded by and in the name of "converting" indigenous peoples have turned many cultures and countries into absolute "shit-holes". Whenever and wherever these "conquistadors", "Puritans", "colonials" etc., were, they have left a legacy from that colonialism that is hard to overcome. The Latin-Americas for example and also the Europeans that are STILL occupying Canada and the "U.S.", they STILL have not gone back to wherever they came from. Talking about "Caliphates of doom" .......

    • @alibala4506
      @alibala4506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ehsan soleimani First: Sefevids were Turks, second Iran was ruled by Turks almost 1000years and flourished too.

    • @alibala4506
      @alibala4506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @ehsan soleimani Dude! Wasn't the Samanid Empire predominantly a Turkic state?

  • @tommy-er6hh
    @tommy-er6hh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Kudos on a nice summary, I especially like you used the old coastline - although probably the coastline changed during that long time as well.

  • @HistorySkills
    @HistorySkills 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love it that you're doing videos on topics like this. There is so much scope to cover topics like this in ancient history that I am glad you are doing it!

  • @cslos77
    @cslos77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Exactly how I love history: concise, to the point, and illustrated.

  • @Deathrune14
    @Deathrune14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're one of the best history channels on TH-cam. Keep up the great work!

  • @gingerkrieg9062
    @gingerkrieg9062 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing style! Love it! Great job! Keep ancient history alive! It is so interesting! And you present it very well in such short time!

  • @PopGoesTheology
    @PopGoesTheology 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a brilliant video! Thanks for the hard work. I'm looking forward to more. Well done, please don't stop!

  • @UndisputedGH05T
    @UndisputedGH05T 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you Epimetheus! i had requested in one of the earlier videos that you do something on the elamites as there was nothing on them and they were largely ignored! great video!

  • @HoundofOdin
    @HoundofOdin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have been hoping you would do a video on the Elamites for a long time now, and I'm so happy you finally did! This culture is so hard to find real information on. Most of what's available is meant for scholars or just conspiracy theories. Great video and very informative!

  • @aryehyehudahajzenberg9503
    @aryehyehudahajzenberg9503 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dude... As usual your videos are among the few reasons we have to access TH-cam. What impress me the most is the accuracy of your text. You show such a respect for biblical narratives that are absolutely uncommon nowadays. As a rabbi, I recommend your channel to whoever asks me about History and I do not know the answer.
    Keep up the excellent job and may God grant you unmeasurable wisdom for the next 120 years !
    As soon as I can, I will donate you on Patreon ! To you, it is worth the donation !

  • @itsyaboithanos717
    @itsyaboithanos717 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great quality as always!

  • @avtaras
    @avtaras 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks! Was waiting for this video so much ;)

  • @philRminiatures
    @philRminiatures 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Absolutly superb! A fascinating subject, and a fantastic vid, lovely animations, maps, and explanations on ancient writings...😍😍

  • @Anfernee3355
    @Anfernee3355 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was utterly fantastic. I studied this area and this helped to fill in the gaps masterfully. Much appreciated!

  • @domeniclocalzo9498
    @domeniclocalzo9498 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome. Most thorough work I've seen yet thanks

  • @RoninIV_unleashed
    @RoninIV_unleashed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Thank you for putting this together!

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Iw wish Iranian history was more known, it is so fascinating and there are so many new things to learn

  • @marc9324
    @marc9324 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Great job with this uploads dude, your art is pretty great.

    • @EpimetheusHistory
      @EpimetheusHistory  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Marc!

    • @marc9324
      @marc9324 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EpimetheusHistory No problem! Keep it up and you'll be gaining subs like Boone's business and we'll be here all the way.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting. Your topics are always great

  • @-haclong2366
    @-haclong2366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great documentary, thanks for making it.

  • @antonlavrentiev5249
    @antonlavrentiev5249 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent narration. Thank you very much

  • @MrDroenix
    @MrDroenix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey man enjoying the video have to say I'm digging the real-life picture of the Zagros Mountains in the scene at 1:02 think it helps give perspective great work again brotha, thank you

  • @bubbagintz1274
    @bubbagintz1274 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great breakdown of info.
    Easily understood. Thank you

  • @terrybuggage724
    @terrybuggage724 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    U did well with your names , dates & places . Your time line is what gives this credibility & good work !

  • @kellyjohns6612
    @kellyjohns6612 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just wanted to let you know, this is my "go to" channel when an unusual question pops into my never ending curiosity.
    Thanks for your work.

  • @joshelam8756
    @joshelam8756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My family and ancestors thank you for this documentary. Elams are proud of our history!

    • @Bombo505
      @Bombo505 ปีที่แล้ว

      A fellow Elam. 👋

  • @victorwong65
    @victorwong65 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thoroughly enjoyed your presentation!

  • @benberry792
    @benberry792 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoy your videos :) the long breakdowns are fantastic!

  • @vishakhav9794
    @vishakhav9794 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    In the Dravidian language Tamil, the homeland is known as Eelam. The presence of DNA of the people of the Zagros mountain area in the population of the people of India is well established. The proto Elamite script and the IVC script are both undeciphered. They may be connected

    • @asifanwar9636
      @asifanwar9636 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It is also my opinion.

    • @owaisahmad7841
      @owaisahmad7841 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Too much speculation.

    • @dysprosiumdead5078
      @dysprosiumdead5078 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The issue is the zagrossian dna is in rhe North India while the dravidian languages are in South india

    • @vanisridhar5509
      @vanisridhar5509 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dysprosiumdead5078 No, dravidian tamil "vellalar" community has more J2 haplogroup in india.
      North Indians mixed with Greeks, Mongolians and Mughals so they have more R1a1 and they don't have j2.

    • @vanisridhar5509
      @vanisridhar5509 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@owaisahmad7841 It's possible, because we are the one who has more J2 in south asia.

  • @madderhat5852
    @madderhat5852 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like the map graphics showing the movement of the cultures. It brings the changing of the times to life.

  • @micahistory
    @micahistory 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have always appreciated how this channel covers global history and topics that most historians ignore

  • @EurasiaOnYT
    @EurasiaOnYT 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video like always!!!

  • @guillervz
    @guillervz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a map nerd myself, I have to tell you that I love your maps @Epimetheus

  • @466chalk
    @466chalk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Mom can I have some TH-cam?
    To watch video game playthroughs?
    Yeeesss
    (Actually watches Near East History vids like a boss)

  • @quolagriffin6455
    @quolagriffin6455 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well put together and extremely informative ty

  • @Steven-dt5nu
    @Steven-dt5nu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the information and the work you do in your videos. I dig the cadences.

  • @F9kkk
    @F9kkk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Can you please make a video on the history of the Nabataeans, who built Madain Saleh and Petra.

    • @walid3745
      @walid3745 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They say they are Arabs but they are not

    • @youngsavag666
      @youngsavag666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@walid3745 They are arabs

    • @walid3745
      @walid3745 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@youngsavag666 they are not

    • @GLOmar-my6xc
      @GLOmar-my6xc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@walid3745 shut up

    • @NWOterminated
      @NWOterminated 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Muslim terrisost They are ancestors of arabs, but not arab. They spoke neo-aramaic. In other words, arabs are assimilated

  • @nurmaybooba
    @nurmaybooba 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this was fascinating. I have always wanted to know more about this part of the world.

  • @marquispatton8198
    @marquispatton8198 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are one of the greatest history video makers on TH-cam. Keep it up bro

  • @michaelfraser4396
    @michaelfraser4396 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for an informative and well done presentation on the Elamites.

  • @SarahGreen523
    @SarahGreen523 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you! You filled in some blind spots for me!

  • @Hanesboi
    @Hanesboi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How interesting, I had never once heard of the Elamites or anything of Middle Eastern history but I am loving it. It's so nice to have a Historytuber that doesn't just repeat the same European history. Keep up the good job sir.

    • @dynasty4683
      @dynasty4683 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do not say Middle Eastern, say West Asian

  • @cynsalm2288
    @cynsalm2288 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent documentary!

  • @aramgocer253
    @aramgocer253 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent work.

  • @Muguratiu
    @Muguratiu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I was just thinking that if you are passionate about the Fertile Crescent, you can't really overlook the states bordering the MVP, Mesopotamia, like Elam or the Hittite Empire. And if you love Mesopotamia, you will love these too, for sure. For the few fellow passionate about this kind of history I send greetings :) Thanks for the video, Epimetheus!

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    YEEEESSS!!! At last :) very very nice video. Elamites were a black hole, participating in all past videos and now are shown as well. Indeed, the succession is different, but tricky, what if the nephew dies? But agree that being raised by both parents have an advantage in administration and character. Now I'm interested in their language too. Esdras book include them giving a panorama about the powers if the era. Very very nice video, thanks! :)

  • @arnoldlayne9918
    @arnoldlayne9918 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These videos are great, very interesting.

  • @justbe1451
    @justbe1451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video!

  • @ricktasker8248
    @ricktasker8248 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the interesting and clear view of the Elamites :-)

  • @stevenv6463
    @stevenv6463 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Elamites are so underrated. I always ignored them when I learned about the time period but they seem pretty interesting.

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j ปีที่แล้ว

      They were very powerful in ancient times, but when the Aryan immigrant tribes appeared, they killed the indigenous people.

  • @carolynring2350
    @carolynring2350 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting and comprehensive. Thank you.

  • @BarbaraHanner
    @BarbaraHanner 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very informative! Thank you!!!

  • @louisritter7906
    @louisritter7906 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    can you do one on the baltic region please? (Curonians, livonians, lithuanians e.t.c.)

  • @eldariontelkontar
    @eldariontelkontar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Until today there's a province and city of Ilam in Iran :) Although much further north-northwest from Susa (which is today's Shush)

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's an interesting bit, TY. I can find that Ilam province was part of Elam at some point but I cannot find any info on the founding of the city of Ilam, do you know?

    • @goghnos8826
      @goghnos8826 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LuisAldamiz search sush city in iran

    • @LuisAldamiz
      @LuisAldamiz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@goghnos8826 - I was asking for Ilam city as such, not Sush/Susa.

    • @eldariontelkontar
      @eldariontelkontar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@LuisAldamiz I could ask around but I guess it has risen in prominence during like a 10th century when Lurs (Lors) became an organised polity and were causing trouble to Iranian dynasties, prominently to Safavids. Lorestan was then separated into two provinces, Lorestan itself with the capital in Khorramabad and Pusht-e Kuh with the capital in Ilam. If you ever happen to travel there you should have a look at the vali's (governor's) palace, it's small but pretty.
      Sorry for not being very helpful

    • @eldariontelkontar
      @eldariontelkontar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RokoKaran Yeah, I know it :) I just said that Ilam city gained prominence with Lurs. Also, they may have mixed Elam-Iranian blood,

  • @guillermomalo4027
    @guillermomalo4027 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty cool video my guy. I like how this channel focuses mainly on Near East bronze age empires and cultures. Though I would like some more videos on African empires and cultures from before the Scramble as well.

    • @lts3248
      @lts3248 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The issue with the african empires is that a lot of the history was oral, which got kinda fucked by the scramble, the atlantic slave trade, the arabic slave trade and this oral story transforming into myth over time

  • @LordLebu
    @LordLebu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome narration

  • @dansmith3343
    @dansmith3343 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your work. Maybe consider doing a series on the roman absorbance/wars with the hellenistic kingdoms?

  • @micahminor4764
    @micahminor4764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Is there anymore information about that trio of Elamite goddesses mentioned? I wouldn't be surprised if all that was left for us is only their imagery but even a scrap of written record about them would be fun to look over. And thank you for all the detail you put into this vid. I think Elam might be my new favorite bronze age kingdom.

  • @doh2934
    @doh2934 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love history. I will have to listen to this more than once because-respectfully, take a breath? I want to listen to all your videos I see listed. Hope periods mean something. What I captured on the first run was really great information. Thanks

  • @moslemaf9898
    @moslemaf9898 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great information

  • @menaseven9093
    @menaseven9093 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wonderful short history of Elam, I am happy to learn that the Elamite kingdom was matriarchal and the oldest princess son succeeded the king, the three main God in Elam were female and women was depicted like men in Elam art. The Assyrian king Asshurbanipal was very cruel for destroying Susa, digging up their old kings and dumped salt in Elam fields. I am also happy to learn that the Persian learned government administration from the Elamites.

    • @user-cg2tw8pw7j
      @user-cg2tw8pw7j ปีที่แล้ว

      Because of this, the Assyrians killed these people

    • @aalampara7853
      @aalampara7853 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The same system was followed in parts of South India and Jaffna region until recent times! Inheritance was given to sister’s son not own’s son! Even Kingdom of Travancore followed similar system until 1949

  • @srikanthxxxxx
    @srikanthxxxxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Interesting that you mentioned the connection between Dravidian languages and Elamites. Until a few decades ago, people from Kerala in South India also followed the same matrilenial system of succession. Would like to know your opinion.

    • @surendarav8406
      @surendarav8406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Elamites DNA is similar to Dravidians, shares lost of R1a1 gene. Author does not mention it deliberately. It is now well known

    • @srikanthxxxxx
      @srikanthxxxxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@surendarav8406 nanba, not everything is a conspiracy against tamils. R1a1 is spread all across India, central Asia and Europe. Please check.

    • @surendarav8406
      @surendarav8406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@srikanthxxxxx focus : where it is most intensive and longer back in time. It is in India. Now make your conclusion.

    • @srikanthxxxxx
      @srikanthxxxxx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@surendarav8406 so you would like to pick and choose, so as to suit a specific narrative? That is not how science works. Inferences should be derived from facts. Besides, this whole annoying trend of who came first, who came second is ridiculous. We all came from Africa.

    • @surendarav8406
      @surendarav8406 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't care a damn of your opinion on my observations. What I posted is fairly well known among the informed circles. If you want to throw your mouth , keep throwing. I don't have time to engage in this wasteful hubris of yours. To hide your poor knowledge you are trying to attribute motives. Typical hypocrisy.. Longlive and Effff off. RIP. ( I will not engage you further )

  • @danconnors8961
    @danconnors8961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I sure appreciate the work you put into summarizing the peoples of the ancient eras. Our history books is school do not cover any of this. Thanks so much

  • @theambitious1271
    @theambitious1271 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job

  • @thegreatkoorosh7407
    @thegreatkoorosh7407 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for your effort of showing true iranian history!

  • @shayk4791
    @shayk4791 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another fantastic video!! Can you do a video on the Chola Empire of India and their wars with the kingdoms of Southeast Asia?

    • @asmrnaturecat984
      @asmrnaturecat984 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, that would be nice, but some historians didnt include the fact that it was a retaliation against srivijaya empire which have several territory on southern india

  • @quentinplummer2339
    @quentinplummer2339 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks again for all the videos! I'm definitely gonna look more into their religion and stuff

  • @ChristesII
    @ChristesII 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are just so many facets of history that are underrepresented like this.

  • @zanny7819
    @zanny7819 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My father's side comes from the village of dastgerd, the village holds the fire temple of Isfahan beside it; apparently dastgerd is from the elamite period.

  • @obenrob
    @obenrob 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    THANK YOU!
    you are the only youtuber making videos on ancient civilizations

  • @robandrews4815
    @robandrews4815 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! I never heard of the Elamites before watching this video.

  • @taijanroychiu3883
    @taijanroychiu3883 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great channel !!!!!!!

  • @albatros33
    @albatros33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Epimetheus please do video about Qajar Dynasty.

  • @user-ll6pr5cw1f
    @user-ll6pr5cw1f 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My ancestors where from Elam , then came to subcontinent and created one of the world's largest indusvalley civilization then came to South India and created dravidians civilization , wow

    • @surendarav8406
      @surendarav8406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is other way around , from IVC they went there

    • @indranildutta5838
      @indranildutta5838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol no

    • @scert7329
      @scert7329 ปีที่แล้ว

      South India was more fertile and inhabited much before

    • @indranildutta5838
      @indranildutta5838 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scert7329 south is an ugly shithole

    • @sivagnanam5803
      @sivagnanam5803 ปีที่แล้ว

      The migration was made by Tamils from south to north.

  • @CosmaSan99
    @CosmaSan99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Every time i get a notification from your channel, it makes my day

  • @arioavesta7302
    @arioavesta7302 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good job👍👍👍

  • @KTG841
    @KTG841 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yes.. Thankyou so much for showing ancient IRANIAN and Elamite history..... As a Zoroastrian. The Pre- muslim era of the near east is very interesting to me. Learing about our cultural and ethnic history and seeing what of our old culture survived to this day... Such as Nowrouz. Persian new year.... It is very rare to see such a accurate and artistic portrayal of this Era in history...... Thankyou very much Sir..... And please make more vidoes like this!!!!

    • @approachinggnosis4613
      @approachinggnosis4613 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      KTG841 I hope to see an Iran freed from Islamic oppression

    • @FatmaDemir-mq9nc
      @FatmaDemir-mq9nc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@approachinggnosis4613 They were NOT iranian.Their language was isolated and their origin related to Dravidians and Ancient Semitics.Not Indo-Arians.

    • @dysprosiumdead5078
      @dysprosiumdead5078 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@FatmaDemir-mq9ncgenetic studies proved otherwise in the recent decade

  • @camilofernando7952
    @camilofernando7952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am Ethnic Tamil, one of the ancient Dravidian peoples. Our language, culture and kinship has close resemblance with the Elamites. Maybe Elamites were our distant cousins ? Only time will tell.

    • @mrwersa1
      @mrwersa1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you know your culture resembles Elamiets?

    • @yilmaz-no4tr
      @yilmaz-no4tr ปีที่แล้ว

      Your culture isnt elamite. Only in theory that they might have spread their language to east but this is just a theory.

    • @vanisridhar5509
      @vanisridhar5509 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yilmaz-no4tr Then who south indians got high J2 haplogroup??

    • @vanisridhar5509
      @vanisridhar5509 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrwersa1 because women's given high priority.

    • @tomorrow.
      @tomorrow. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@yilmaz-no4trmore of a hypothesis. But the word Elam it's self is Tamil. We can't rule out the possibilities

  • @humzabhatti6745
    @humzabhatti6745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video

  • @NgonyamaShobane775
    @NgonyamaShobane775 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After watching and I'm impressed with your content, l just subscribed to your channel.