Discord didn't listen...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 มิ.ย. 2024
- Discord's new usernames are coming whether or not you want them to. And some things have changed.
Now how do we know the end is near for Discord's discriminator. Well if you visit the closest people to Discord (Discord staff) those gamers have a fancy new username. But they also have a fancy new badge. Now before you lose it since Discord has a new badge that badge goblins are going to consume, just know that something good actually came out of this: Display Names.
Display names are basically global nicknames. You don't have to worry about Discord's username cooldown or worry about too many people having the same username.
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Big Discord Community Post with upset people
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Discord Server
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00:00 - Discord ignorin yall
00:56 - The Problems
02:21 - How to hate people
03:32 - Discord Staff stole my name bruh
04:43 - BADGE BADGE BADGE BADGE BADGE
05:46 - Strange changes...
06:39 - Quick little deets for newbies
07:22 - Discord LIED omg?????
09:26 - They aint stopping g - บันเทิง
PLEASE READ: The reserved username list is in a weird spot. I'll make an updated video on it but as of now I wouldn't assume some Discord corruption if these names go on sale. (If I had to guess, I think the list either shows some names from the complex and ambiguous reserve system OR some of the names on the list got dropped due to the bot username changes). It's confusing as heck and I'm trying to stay on top of it.
Also, it seems like Discord’s automatic system banned a whole bunch of people who checked the pomelo endpoint (checked username availability). Thankfully this was quickly reversed and people got their accounts back.
It is a good warning though that if you are going to muck around with discord stuff, use an alt account.
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wow i hate discord they didn't listen their community like a rat yelling at u!
Will they ban better discord users
@@JonasSimp i hope not 💀
@@JonasSimp They won't unless you're using it in Discord owned servers. They know it exists
The # number system was the perfect balance of everyone being able to have whatever name they want and the security of avoiding scammers/fraud by using the number to verify.
Yes it was perfect, until they let people change their numbers. I still have no idea why they'd destroy their own discriminator system. It's like letting variables in code change themselves whenever they feel like it. :/
yep, with the numbers it was/is a lot safer than without... (i have the numbers but idk for how long)
@@NerdConfederation I've always assumed that being able to change your discriminator numbers prevented annoying/threatening people from sending friend requests after blocking them when they make new accounts to get through to you, that's just an example though. Of course, it would come with a cost too.
@@StarryClouds09 :(
YEAH. now its EASIER to impersonate people if you got nitro to get your username change before them. you can even hide the discriminator number badge so you can fully impersonate them so long as nobody asks you to turn on your legacy number badge. like i would (jokingly) impersonate my friend on april fools day for the silly goofies, but you can TELL who's who if you remember what their discriminator and what my discriminator were. they just removed one of the best ways to avoid scams and in turn let you pay to impersonate. additionally, its a lot easier to find people with a target username now, its what people used to see if the username they want is taken.
discord doesn’t disappoint when it comes to disappointing
Yeah i like when they dont disapoint to released an disappoint props for the hard working discord moderators
Discord did indeed didnt disappoint when it came to disappointing
It's disappointing that I feel disappointing about the disappointing fact that discord doesn't disappoint when it comes to disappointing.
Yes
AT LEAST IT'S NOT ACTIVISION BLIZZARD LMAOOOOOOO
I never understood usernames that are limited to one person in video games or on social media, I liked the tag system with the numbers after the username that don’t always show
Then you will love the new system which is equivalent to Steam's. You get to choose whatever Nickname you want.
@@Luxalpa Did you reply to the wrong person or something? He literally said he liked the tag system, as not just one person could be named "Mike".
The new system is the opposite of that, you DON'T get to choose whatever nickname you want, because if somebody registers with the name "Mike" before you, then you cannot also name yourself just "Mike", you must then name yourself "Mike1" or "Mike." or something like that.
It's not more freedom we get, it's less, and it makes it actually easier for scammers, easier to be hacked (because it's easier to guess the nickname), and then the bitterness of not being able to have the exact nickname you really want to use.
@@iamyourgreatgreatgreatgrea6291 Did you not read properly or something? Nickname and usernames are different systems. They meant the display name that has no restriction in regards to being unique (like the server nicknames currently are), because it's backed up by the unique username.
And just as a disclaimer: I'm as much against this new change as any other person.
@@rioghander2te Yes, nothing wrong with the display names, but adding more freedom in them shouldn’t mean giving less freedom in the username.
hot take, but I think Discord is gearing up to launch a social media service. They'll launch it in one of two ways. Either A, they'll automatically enroll every single user of Discord into this service to boast their numbers for the launch of the service, or, if they have any assemblance of soul left, they'll provide some kind of one-click option for users to join said social media service with their already existing Discord account. To me, this would make their name change update make more sense, since your name + 4 numbers wouldn't work particularly well on a social media service. Well, it would... but maybe not AS well as usernames.
my guess is that discord wants to go public and decided removing discriminators would appeal to investors more, given that it already is a form of social media. Maybe the weird excuses are them being disingenuous about their intentions.
actually that sounds about right, most of their recent changes have been about wider audiences and bigger groups
seeing what garbage yikyak just dropped, i wouldn't be surprised if they did. It would be - in fact - terrible, but I can see them doing that.
How would this differ from what Discord is currently? You envisioning some kind of public/serverless side to postings (ala twitter) ?
youre probably right. . .
instead of implementing better security measures and taking scam reports seriously, they instead inconvenience all of their current, non-malicious users. it's so obnoxious how WE are the ones that have to deal with scambaiting accounts pestering us on THEIR platform and in return they make every user suffer.
Why should discord care about security measures? If your account is compromised, and you have a payment method tied to it, the hacker who stole your account can use it to buy a bunch of nitro gifts to sell, which discord profits off of.
It's almost as if they were somewhat involved in such scams, isn't it?
Plus, display names will let them impersonate anyway
Do you mean scammer accounts? Scambaiting is the act of trolling scammers to waste their time
They just suffered a data breach too ROFL
Discord actually listen to what their users want challenge (impossible)
🤭🤭🤭 discord moment
Discord actually making an update thats useful or not related to nitro challenge (extremely impossible)
Invite TH-cam into that challenge
they probably do listen. they just dont give us what they are listening to.
The people who don’t want it is a vocal minority, stop making it seem as if the entire community is against it.
Not sure if anyone's talked about it yet but the fact they're not just removing tens if not hundreds of unicode characters for just ". and -" but also ALL 26 CAPITAL LETTERS is a huge deal and massive counterpoint to their idea of "but u can only have 10k Timmys before it's locked" cuz NOT ONLY can there only be 1 timmy (yes, timmy cuz no more capitals) but there is also way less possible combinations overall.
In a simulation of username combinations using only lowercase letters and between 2-10 characters, u can get somewhere around 7,119,490 different combinations, but just by adding a SINGLE character into the possible characters, u can get 10,970,245 possible combinations instead... a full 3,850,755 MORE POSSIBLE USERNAMES just by adding ONE character.
So if we step back a bit.... if we discount the fact like 10k(?) people can own the same username in the "Legacy" username system, merely removing ALL CAPITALS AND ALMOST ALL SYMBOLS in the new system will cost us hundreds of millions (maybe even billions since adding even a single character into a system exponentially increases the possible combinations over time) of possible usernames MULTIPLIED by the already lost 10k variations thanks to the discriminator numbers....
TL;DR:
We went from no real requirement to have "unique names" to a system where we MUST have a unique name but with less than half of usable characters.
What a total hogwash of an excuse to completely ruin a system. The new system is legitimately worse than the systems first created when the internet was created
But you can call yourself timmy1, timmy2, timmy3 etc
@Alex yes u can call urself timmy(insert arbitrary addons here), but if discords issue is there can only be 10k timmy's at any given time, how is removing all 10k and forcing them to make arbitrary differences in their name any different? All it does is make it so that there can only ever be 1 person with just "timmy", but to reiterate my point as simple as possible.
Imagine if instead of 2-32 u instead had 2-3 chars. Now imagine all possible combinations of a username, say "z"
The possible names for someone who wants to be called "z" is "z0" till "z99" (and some extra variations). With the old system not only would you be able to use these, you'd also be able to use each of them 10,000 times. ON TOP OF THAT you could also use capital Z as well, but in the new system ur limited to lowercase z.
The new system literally makes way more limited just from the fact they removed half of the alphabet and every single symbol except for 2 of em
Another way to think about it is this, how many unique combinations of 2 objects can you get from 3 objects? 3C2 = 3, you get 3 combinations. The more options you have the more combinations there are.
Discord removed MORE THAN HALF of the choices ON TOP of removing the ability to repeat any combination up to 10k times. That's the issue I'm trying to highlight.
tiktok beat youtube, will come time when another company will eat discord and they will realize their mistakes
very interesting point. i think it’s weird for people to be upset about “stolen usernames”, but this is an argument that i can take seriously. what was the reason behind this change anyway? let’s put aside what seems like their main reason: that usernames will be easier to remember. to me, that’s a weak argument for the change, since there are many strong arguments against the change
It's because sony doesn't like people to be happy.
I just really enjoyed having a username I know I would never have on most websites... That made discord a lot more special. Allowing letters to be generated in discriminators would've helped with the issue.
To elaborate on how easily it would remedy the issue--we are looking at an upwards of beyond one and a half million different combinations.
@@subatomicship I'll one up you here - increase it to 5 numbers AND add letters. You'll basically never need to realistically increase it again.
@@CerulianHimmel five could be too much. but if for some reason a combination of four characters (numbers and/or letters) does not suffice, five can happen. Bnet tag system is like this
literally only 5 letters could make a huge difference, you wouldnt need anything other than hexadecimal, instead of decimal
I think Discord Staff should get their usernames last. Like a captain going down with his ship.
They would change it back so quickly...
Well, it turns out they did literally the opposite 😅 .
Oh, and btw not only the staff accounts were allowed to call dibs early, their alts too have claimed the new usernames as well, some of those were registered as late as _this very month_ 😑 .
@@TheDragShot It IS interesting that a lot of staff members made new accounts just recently and they have every badge imaginable. Hmmm...
@@MaahirMomtaz12 probably a little side hustle to get some moneh
@@alexthemovie you will never feel the warmth of fame through leeching off of others and putting people down. buy yourself some talent and then state your piece
@@MaahirMomtaz12 it's because they are now required to have a work and a personal account
I still can't understand how "we could have only 9999 people with the exact same username, so now we're reducing that to one person per username" does nothing to meaningfully change the platform. People will probably still use their damn denominator but as a string at the end of their username, so it's just inconveniencing everyone to be twitter with more scams and just as reprehensible of an userbase
Good idea, actually. I'm doing that.
@@MaxMatters weird
Think what they were trying to say is moreso on, people usually never pay attention to the numbers after the tag, but if it's literally part of your username like instead of Mike#5912 its Mike5912, people will be able to remember or at least pay more attention to those numbers and add them better/ make its better for well known creators/ brand accounts to have their own name without impersonators.
Also like, to get more people to be able to have the same name, there's actually a pretty good solution: Change the discriminator to use hexadecimal or some other higher base that uses letters. No need to even change anything for existing users since all current discriminators would still be valid, and it would add WAY more username availability
@@Lawfyy what if I don't want to be Mike5792 but Mike? the old system is just better and if it's such a huge issue why not add a fifth or sixth denominator number? (Nevermind that it's not and nobody ever complained)
the number tag system was so important to discord imo bc it allowed people to have the same username instead of having to make it different
The # with 4 numbers where great because not only made possible for 10,000 people to have the exactly same username but also made impossible for random people to add you by accident or arrass you for your username since they needed to have both your nick and your numbers to add you, but now with the new system, i'm sure a lot of people will get flooded with random friend requests
Finding out that a man got swatted just because of a certain username isn't surprising at this point which just shows how much mentally deranged humanity has become
This reply section is very amusing to read
humanity are pretty advanced, they can evolute fowards and they can evolute backwards at the same time.
Just for. FUCKING USERNAME
@@TheHoodAmbassador I mean, you're not wrong.
cool now the swat is going to chase me down cause of some dude being jealous of me having "um" as username
to make it worse it was perpetrated by an 18 year old
gotta love how they just refuse to listen to their community because theyre CONVINCED theyre doing BETTER when the entire point of companies operating well is listening to their customers’ feedback
companies try to listen to their own customers’ feedback challenge (they’re the only reason they are a company in the first place)
THIS UPDATE IS SO GOOD AND NTTS IS SO BAD. IM BETTER!
@@alexthemovie then explain why you only have 128 subscribers? lol?
Nah, nowadays the only good company is those making money.
Bungie moment
As a person who was regularly stalked in the past, I LOVE the number system at the end of discord tags. You can't easily search me up without them. But now.. you can. And I'm scared of that person seeking me out again.
It's honestly funny how almost every single tech startup that has a genuinely good product for the niche they are filling eventually waters down and turns that product into the precise thing that a majority of people who used it don't want.
What I find the most amusing about this whole situation is that they claim one of their reasons behind doing it is that the discriminator system creates a limit of 9,999 of the same username, so if 9,999 people already have a certain name, then nobody else can get it. So, in an effort to "prepare for the future", they're making it so that 9,998 LESS people can have any particular name. Makes a lot of sense, right?
They made the username cap 9999x lower, which is insanely stupid.
@@ertgb_
It's just yet another example of standardization progressively ruining a service. Companies anymore are so terrified of the idea of even one person in the world preferring someone else's approach over theirs that they'd rather all conform to the same "standard", regardless of whether or not the "standard" is actually comprised of good ideas.
Just add 5th and 6th string. Its really not that hard
You can have the same display name.
@@idogaming3532 Inconvenient. Nickname + discriminator worked fine, making it more complex by adding THIRD layer of nickname is just stupid by all means.
The thing I hate most about this, is that it doesn’t solve any problems. Their ‘problem’ was that you can only have 9999 of a username and usernames are difficult to remember with the 4 digit code. However now, you can only have 1 of each username and if you want the same one you need to basically type the code yourself; if Mike is already taken, you can’t also be Mike, you have to be Mike2, or MikeH, or Mike0, so common usernames will still be very complicated as people end up needing to have their username be MikeA2753.
Secondly, now you can try to message anyone, just message a random, but common, username and then you have someone, before you had to know their username and the 4 digit code, which almost added a layer of security, as people need the correct code to add you. The 4 digit code didn’t make anything difficult either because most of the time you will either be adding your friend or someone from a server you’re in, in the first case, they can easily just show you the code or even write it down for you, and in the second you don’t even need to remember it.
So there wasn’t any actual problem to begin with, and all this has done is cause more problems.
lmao this is so true, they try to fix not-a-problem and that makes a lot more problems
Yeah the privacy aspect and the fact that you’ll probably just have to just graft the discriminator onto your real username are two of my biggest gripes with the new system that I feel like don’t get talked about nearly as much as they should
Well if anything, makes me feel confident that whoever made this decision's job must not be hard at all.
I always see Discord's argument being cited as the tags being "too hard to memorize"
except what if there was a way to send your username+tag to someone without memorizing it
maybe by clicking a single button to be able to send it.. almost like a copy button for your account?
nah, that would never work, it's simply not something that can be done
except it is literally already a thing, and the above was pure sarcasm and loathing
hell, I have my tag memorized and I use the copy feature because I'm lazy
@@rydergolde3169 how are you going to send someone a discord handle if they can't receive it because they don't have discord? Or are you saying that users should install another chat application in order to receive your nickname on discord? Do you realize how ridiculous you are?
I remember when the biggest selling feature for nitro back in the day was custom identifiers. I wonder if they will do something to replace that feature that I’m guessing will go away
I am convinced that Discord just wants less users or something because they're going to lose a lot of their userbase- not just because of backlash from the entire community but also because there aren't enough combinations of letters and characters to support the current userbase
Something special everyone liked about discord was how you can have any username and now people will be hacked or have an unnecessary amount of adjectives and number behind their usernames.
Yeah, unless your username is super rare and you pray that nobody takes it before you, you can't have the one you want.
could not agree more. People are going to be fighting for usernames now, and nobody's exactly left happier this way.
that or the minecraft crisis, with people selling 2-4 letter usernames for thousands of dollars
it's been like that since the 90s.
and you can't recognise a discord handle on sight any more, you have to be told that it's discord
I love it when social media companies always add things nobody even asked for and never adds things weve needed for as long as weve used it
I can almost guarantee this is just being done because the developers are trying to make themselves look good for investors. There's no chance they actually care about the user experience at this point
@@XecularOfficial that's pretty much the reason. It's all about the illusion of progress.
no app cares about their users, let's be real @@XecularOfficial
that's the first video I've watched on your channel, and that ending kiss caught me off guard lol
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The biggest issue to me is also security: for me, a way to make sure not just anyone could add me on Discord was that this number was sort of secret to people that I don't share a Discord server with (and a lot of users aren't really active on servers). This way only people could add me who I gave this 4 digit number. Even if I get to keep my name on Discord, now random people and scammers can add me just by seeing my name on the internet.
A part of me wants to see the blackmarket for usernames become so big it becomes bad PR (well, worse than Discord will tolerate) so they'd actually revert this.
what does PR mean? I keep seeing it but Urban Dictionary doesn't help with it having several and ambiguous definitions
@@DestopLine bad press, a bad reputation
@@DestopLinePR is a companies reputation. Example: McDonald’s adds a salad to their menu for good PR
@@DestopLine "Public Relationships", the department in any company that deals with the press, media and so on. When we talk about good or bad PR, we're talking about the public reputation (same letters but not the real meaning).
@@XannisV thanks
One of the things that really upset me about this was them changing it to "older accounts get first dibs" to nitro users getting first pick
I can understand having staff a chance to pick first or even discord partners given the importance of having specific user names but
older accounts should have priority.
Imagine being on discord for 6 years and losing your username because someone with a month old nitro account stole it first....
yes I agree! imagine how that'd be even presented within the Discord program. imagine it just randomly force restarts one day and...
"a new feature has joined Discord. (patchnote video) you can't send a message or use this account again until you pick a new username. also your current name is taken! super exciting new feature right?"
I get the disappointment for that, but think about the other way around too. Imagine having nitro for a long time (I've paid for two full years now, hundreds of euros) only to have someone get dibs first cause their account is a bit older
that's not how it works the said they would do year by year alternating between nitro and non nitro. e.g. 2015 nitro accounts then 2015 free accounts then 2016 nitro etc.
@@KIxYOSHI2077 Skill issue
@@Johannesburgus try and be more creative, then someone might laugh
Never forget that, when experts warned Discord that their "inclusive" new color scheme would make the platform harder to use for visually impaired users, Discord's response was to claim the experts were wrong and continue spewing misleading information about how great their new theming was for the same disabled users they are screwing over.
wow this channel is really growing, I remember when it had under 100k subs like last year
Discord doesn’t fail to make the worst updates
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Same thing with roblox lol
My biggest issue is, of course, me not getting my name because it isn't rare, but my second biggest issue is what someone pointed out either on reddit or on one of the other NTTS videos:
Discriminators kind of existed before already, we would add random numbers do our names until we found a combination that was available, discord made that system much cleaner by allowing most of us to remove such numbers and instead we had discriminators. Now all that chaos will start again. Also I liked the @ at the beginning of the name, and I loved that you could use more than just lowercase and some special characters.
Discord is just speedrunning to become hated by everyone that once supported them.
It also alienates folks who don't use latin characters in their language, like their growing Japanese userbase
@@Eeponae true I forgot to mention that. Personally I use zalgo, so I will need to kiss that one goodbye too. Sadge
@@Eeponae I've seen plenty of Russian and Japanese users
@@alexthemovie this is the saddest spammer ever since i don't even think it's a bot
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 A person named black lives matter is saying that they don't care about the billions of people who use different alphabets
That @ sign was actually somewhat useful, made people realize you can use the @username to specifically talk to them on servers
Oh and, I was kinda bummed about the loss of # numbers
I (through nitro) changed my # number to be # 4343, and it was kinda neat
Heyy Gary ;)
I didn’t know the story about that man. Damn what has society come to.. smh rip that poor man
Is one of their arguments really "If there are already 9999 *username* taken you can't have it" and make it worse by making it so only one person can have their username
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Then also making it so some names literally cannot be chosen in the first place as well
discord isn't too fond of listening to people
I mean, they removed the AKA feature after backlash because it clogged your screen
use reverse psychology lol
theyre not fond of people in general they're all furries
@@MaahirMomtaz12 yea but when it comes to actual half decent features they only listen to what they want to hear, any type of criticism goes into one ear and out the other
@@ikheb8619 The username change was an executive decision from the higher ups. The AKA thing wasn't, plus it was experimental
I love how they get rid of the 4 digits, but then most people I know just tag it on the end of their usernames anyways because theirs was taken.
As a programmer I have to wonder if there's something going on in their servers for them to have changed it.
This is the small period of time where the naming system on Discord is as close to perfect as it can be, so let's embrace it while we can
no i'll cry about it like the little baby I am
@@BurntSushi. crying about it like the little baby I am team!
@@calamaricalamity6757 Baby Boys (and girls) Bureau
EVERYONE IS MAD BECAUSE IM BETTER THAN NTTS! 🤣
@@alexthemovieyou're such a fucking loser. Get lost 12 year old, don't you have homework to do? Is this really the best way to spend your limited hours on the internet before mommy and daddy take your phone for the night?
I'm really gonna miss the old username system. I kept the same name and number the whole time and I've had the number memorized for years now. Also four numbers even when they're all different like in my case, really isn't that hard to remember if you look at it enough.
i like how they say to hard to remember and i still remember it out of my head
This update reasoning to make the usernames 'easier to remember' is so strange to me, because people whose previous name was like Cherry#1543 will now have to name themselves cherry.1_0 or some other meaningless symbols and that to me is way more confusing and harder to remember than a 4 number discriminator
get ready for the._real._mark1 comin in real hot
@@xyouthe god damn that’s awful to see every single day
Or they can name themselves cherry1543. Exact same amount to remember.
@@xyouthe looks like we're going back to the 2000s boys.
@@mickys8065 Don't forget XxMark1337xX
I have no idea how this is going to work. They're changing a very fundamental part of the service, possibly breaking it. I hope this either doesn't go through, or it instantly fails so badly that Discord actually reverts it.
Four-digit tags are probably one of the most recognizable and important features. If it's going to be changed, it should at least be very successful and make it seem like there was never a system in place. It wouldn't even make sense to have those kinds of usernames that Twitter has, because Discord is not like Twitter. Since it has you join servers to connect with people, there's a lot more secrecy. You can make a private server that only certain friends can join, or that nobody can. Discord is only from your perspective, which is why they allowed 9,999 people to have the same username, just with different tags. Twitter, however, as well as other social media, is from the entire world's perspective, and anyone can see the stupid things you posted 4 years ago, unlike on Discord, where only some people can.
All I'm saying is, Discord's old username system fits considering what kind of social media it is, and changing it could take away a part of their identity.
That's definitely what I'm most upset about. If I walk around with a #4267 or whatever after my username, most people who use discord will instantly recognize that as a discord username they can add and shittalk. Sort of how (primarily) if you saw an @ before a username you knew it was a twitter handle. It's a brand recognition thing, and they're shooting themselves in the foot in a number of ways by removing it.
Discord is taking notes from Roblox's stupidity and introducing stupid updates
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 Discord is full of amazing communities and Roblox is full of amazing developers who might've never touched unity or unreal engine
@@headcrab4 Yup. My old art all uses my discord discriminator as a watermark because it's very recognizable as a Discord name. Now it's a gamble on if someone will find my actual account or just a random user named 'Xecular" on another platform. This really is just a clone of Roblox's mistake with display names that lead to widespread impersonation and confusion
@BlackLivesMatter you do know that roblox gives a platform to countless incredibly talented developers and allows them to host their games without server or publishing fees? besides theyve definitely improved somewhat recently, still mediocre but not bad enough to be shutdown
also just because a games on roblox doesnt make it not a real game
going from 9999 people with a username to just one person makes total sense!! wow!! good job discrd
Thanks Gary, very cool!
They are literally removing what makes them special...
But seriously, how hard can it be to remember 4 numbers or just look at the phone to look it up?
Also copy and paste username exists
@@chocolatecaake_ true
dude, discord doesnt even know what the definition of "study" is, our brain is gotta be smaller than a cell to not remember a frickin 4 digit number
@@--okk that 4 digit number is really forgettable because you don't use it all the time and its not really important to remember unlike numbers like your P.I.N. for your debit/credit card or your phone's passcode
@@nickf6674 IT'S A 4 DIGIT NUMBER
The continued decisions companies like Discord make to actively worsen their products is making Fosscord really appealing right now.
I personally prefer Guilded, _tho that for bought by Roblox a couple years ago._
I'd still highly recommend it tho.
I'm privy to Revolt, myself
@@Valcuda yah, it looked neat, but if I’m gonna switch platforms, the FOSS sounds really nice
@@toxic_shr00m forgot about revolt too. Or running a matrix node, if all I want is chat.
Fosscord goes by Spacebar now
In the game, Splatoon, because there's no lobby chat,
People put their discord username on their splat tag.
Because it has the hashtag, everybody knows that's a discord name, and that person can be found online.
i honestly hate this change because there's a character in my actual first name that would no longer be allowed thanks to the new username system. i've been a user of discord since the beginning, and they somehow always manage to make things worse.
i hope discord keeps the username system what we have today (display name and usernames with tags) because it is something between both and im really fine with that
I 100% agree with this
It's already too late for those wishful thoughts.
This
not gonna happen
sadly though, there is nothing that we can do. they’re gonna go through with it
Can't wait to see Mike1 and Mike2 after Mike was taken, definitely removing the #number is going to stop ppl from just adding numbers to their name if the one they wanted was taken
The numberless username update lol
that's what i'm gonna end up doing
@@MuggyOne71
>opens numberless username update
>forced to use numbers for username
@@XMYeks LOL
actually, that's gonna make the problem worse. the old system you could have 9,999 slots, so you could have 9,999 people named Mike. now there's only one Mike allowed.
Damn, this is infuriating. Thanks for the info, Gary.
Ive never seen more community backlash than this, and yet they are still chugging along with it lol
The fact that a man got swatted and killed over a twitter handle is really heartbreaking. The guy behind it should've gotten life. People are insane.
Ikr
The guy behind it should have gotten the death sentence
@@BulletproofKuloodporny not really, just a longer sentence
@@unaincreibleroca3427 nah, a different sentence. Should’ve gotten first degree murder
@@anakinlowground5515 First degree murder? Idk, it doesn't seem like he was planning to kill the guy
MOST people remember their discrims. If the people at discord cant remember FOUR NUMBERS but can remember their PHONE NUMBERS (a 10 digit number) then THEY are the ones with the problem.
thats the fax right there
guarantee they went through all twelve years of public school needing their school-bus number written on their hand to remember which bus they were supposed to get on.
@@baronfuath5872 they're likely on their second year of private school
@@baronfuath5872 ah yes I need to write number one me To find and get on a giant yellow twinkle
Side note: I knew the number back when i was in school to get on the school Bus but you can ignore this if you don't care
Plus, their another reason behind the change, is that when adding people, it's case sensitive and symbol sensitive. remembering the 4 numbers is easy, but god knows how much people likes to use weird symbols such as "0 width space" or those fancy letters. They justify the reasons behind the change because of those cases, but people often refer to the 4 digit denominator.
BUT THERE'S THIS THING CALLED AN INVITE LINK???? IF THE PROBLEM IS ABOUT TELLING YOUR IRL FRIENDS YOUR DISCORD ACCOUNT, YOU'LL JUST BE SENDING THEM YOUR INVITE LINK???? YOU'RE NOT GONNA SAY "capital X lowercase killer capital double X" TO THEM????
OH WAIT, THEY REMOVED THE INVITE LINK FEATURE JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, IT DOESN'T APPEAR APPARENTLY WHEN YOU OPEN THE FRIENDS TAB. SO THEY'RE JUST DUMB?????
That's really nice Gary.
It gets even worse when you realize that they pushed it out in waves completely ignoring the “priority” they promised with nitro, at the time i had nitro for well over a year and my friend whos account has never had nitro was able to switch name systems before me
There's one other kind of thing I think you're missing. Now with discriminators being removed, it means that if your username is simple enough, expect A LOT more bot and scam DMs if they are open. When I used Fish as a username, it meant that even if you knew my name was Fish and wanted to send me a mean comment, you had a 1/10000 chance of bothering me instead of someone else.
Obviously scam bots are gonna be sending you scam tactics, so you can expect a nice and fun 500% increase in seeing those!
from a 1/10000 to a 1/1, thats more like a 1000000% increase
You won’t be bothered if you just have your DM settings set to friends only.
@titledgoose866 I shouldn't have to. If someone in a server I'm in needs to talk to me, I don't want to have to accept a friend request. It'd also help for if one of my friends makes a new account and needs to say "hey, it's me!"
@@ThisIsRealFish I know I was just pointing out a solution.
Oh hey im also named fish
One of the reasons I liked discord so much, was _because_ I didnt need to have a unique user name. It was the most accsessable username moddle that my dysleix didnt get in the way of. I can just remeber the base name and not stupid extra words.
honestly i'm not dysleix neither but that's so annoying on twitter and instagram... forced to triple check everytime you type a username so you don't misspell it
This would be solved entirely if they simply allowed hashtags and numbers in the new username system. Then you can make your own tag-style username.
you can still use numbers in the new system. So you can do: name1234 if your old name was name#1234
3:20 prison? Why not death penalty?
This is actually a huge privacy concern, now people can literally have just random usernames generated and that's it, no
need to also match usernames to discriminators... Discord doesn't really know what they are doing.
I don't understand. Random usernames are possible both before and after the update?
@@lgasc no, I think they mean contacting people. Before, if you wanted to spam a "Mike", you'd need to know their random #. Now, its just "Mike", or "ian". No need to guess their code.
@@mickys8065 exactly. All you need is for someone to create a bot and you can automatically dm everyone your spam in minutes rather than days because you get to have a simpler script to run
Hello Teimo here gues how many people add me to check if im the guy from my sumemr car
They claim that this is simpler because of other social media sites, yet not one thought went through their minds that this has been happening on these sites for ages
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I hate this handle system because recently youtube adopted it but at least it's an EXTRA feature whereas discord just killed an important functionality with this. the fact they give display usernames is like changing my nickname in each server.
And they never considered that Discord is a messaging app which is fairly different from a social media site, and where the ease of finding people that’s useful on social media sites might not even be a desirable feature at all on Discord, let alone more desirable than having the username you want
@@XBGamerX20 They killed no functionality at all. The only thing they did was make usernames easier to type and made discriminators optional instead of forcing them on you. The rest is the same as before. What used to be your username is now called a Display Name. What used to be your discriminator is now your username. In effect, nothing changed. Yet people are mad as if they lost anything.
@@SlushieDee And you never considered that maybe Discord wants to be more than just a messaging app? Since they added threads, it seems more and more like it's rivaling message boards, which also have the normal identifier system like every other messaging app on earth. Skype has it, Teams, WhatsApp, Email, etc. None of these apps forces discriminators on you. Discord used to be the odd one out.
I have had my account since mid 2016 and when I looked I saw that bunch of random partnered server owners who had created their account as late as 2019 had already gotten their spesific username, and meanwhile i have to wait for my turn. Thats just hilarious. Considering they are somewhat "known people" I am ok with them having a little priority but its just dumb if they still are ahead of me in line while I was here way before them
My username is literally something i’m so attached to for seemingly no reason, but when this update comes out and i get my username (if i’m even able to get it), i feel like it would literally put a target on my back.
it’s a terrifying thought
Can't believe that discord already reserved the username "catboy" this is truly 1984
I wouldn’t really call it the “vocal minority”
The website has a lot less reach then the actual consensus of people. So yea there are only 11,000 on the website but there is probably many more then that. Also I haven’t seen anyone opposed to discriminators so does it really make sense to call us the minority when most people are neutral or on our side
considering i don't even know how to get there and I'd probably have to sign into an account to voice my opinion and all that, yea, that website does not have any real reach at all. And discord is so against using their purpose built client to actually check people's minds aren't they? They're fine with sending a annoying update log only... 6 percent of the time but not informing people and letting them vocalize their thoughts anywhere.
Exactly it, NO one asked for this ever, we aren’t the minority at all here
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@@alexthemovie that's a good way to get dislike bombed, especially since you have videos
The discord community site is trash, discord themselves just ignores it, so yeah... Nobody uses it
People selling short user names reminds me of the times where ICQ was still relevant and people tried to sell 6 digit ICQ numbers (8 digit numbers were the standard).
The rollout system was garbage too, changed it the second I could but still got my name that's actually quite unique snipped by an account 3 yours younger than mine. I've literally used this name for over 13 years now
This username system just makes stalking easier and many people in constant danger.
How?
@@radicalescapist its harder to change your nickname code
You can literally block people, turn off dms and more
also it gives you a badge that shows your old nickname
@@odpierdolka you can disable it dumass
It's too bad they dont let us use # as a special character cause I just would find it funny as shit if people made their username the exact same as before.
Probably what I would've done lol.
exactly what I was going for too 😂
I'll just use an underscore then, jerks.
@@kneelessnightcat9164 "hol up, let him cook"
I'll just use an underscore or a period
My alternateaqua user was saved and I'm very happy about it, but still I believe a lot of people would lose their names for being generic
Thanks for showing how to force a username. I could finnaly change my account username to Knight :))
For anyone thinking Discord will listen. It'll be another TH-cam with the dislikes situation;
Remove Dislikes (To much Backlash) >> Ignore it until people stop complaining
TH-cam ReVanced:
@@aq_uaTH-cam Revanced Extended:
Return TH-cam Dislike:
@@EP1CxEMAN08 Using tht rn
@@Carahato True, I mean they have a large share of the potential market I suppose. But things like Guilded and Teamspeak are still around and available just less mainstream than Discord is/has become.
Wait, it can be 32 characters long, lemme just claim iHaveAgiganticDickInmyPants
Not if i do first
Not if I do first
not if you don't have it in the first place
this sentence can have 2 meanings.
You can't, but "ihaveagiganticdickinmypants" should be available.
@@ivaxian poet
the whole hashtag username stuff was literally fine, like when u saw the hashtags you were like "oh yeah thats discord" like it was a trademark or brand. they didnt need to change it
it's funny because my new discord handle is just my old one but without the hashtag, it literally changed nothing to me. I think it's interesting that xbox's usernames switched to something similar to discords old username system. They added a system where if you choose a username that someone else has you'll be assigned a hashtag and a 4 digit number to differentiate you from other people with that name.
This entire update really goes to show how extremely dense Discord staff are. Like you can't look at this entire update and tell me that Discord knows at all what they're doing.
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@@alexthemoviebro no one knows who you are rando 💀💀
@@alexthemovie I checked your channel before. Bro. You need serious help.
@@psion1C Im not reading all that
Discord won't listen, but Discord will reply with bots in any review you do.
Gotta put that Clyde AI trained with user messages to good use.
And I know Discord staff has said they didn't use user messages to train their bots, but after enough conversation with Clyde I've come to the conclusion that's a shameless lie. The bot knows about topics that have been discussed only in private servers. There's no way those conversations would be out there somewhere else, they had to give it access to the chatlogs in the platform for the bot to know all of those details.
@@TheDragShotthey have used user messages, they updated their tos and if you hadnt disabled a certain setting in the privacy category it would feed all of your messages to the ai
@@TheDragShot I see, and also, most of their responses in Play Store or Support... Feels like not a "genuine conversation" but more like an AI is trying to help you
(I know they did fix my issue about like my account got locked by 2FA by resetting my password or smth, but the conversation i've had with them was like an AI is helping rather.)
@@azurius4507 do you know what it is?
Discord's making a discord in the community.
over my 7 years on discord, I can't remember the time I wasn't disappointed by a Discord update, but hey im still using the app, and im pretty sure they know we won't go anywhere
Funny how Discord refuses to just simply add letters to the tags. With the english alphabet consisting of 26 letters + the 10 numbers we would literally get 36^4 possible outcomes per nickname (correct me if I'm wrong) (that's about 1.7 million). I believe if anything the new display name system is great. The impersonation issue could easily be patched by allowing the tag nicknames to have standard english alphabet letters only. And boom, you easily fixed your old system without annoying the community.
and even if you don't wanna use letters cause it could be annoying, it takes infinitely less brain power to think "oh if we're running out of discriminators just add another number" (ex: name#86383) than "oh we're running out of discriminators let's just make it so only one person gets the name"
..like honestly how drunk are they?
@@chickennugget6684 Unfortunately it seems that they think the display name system will coverup the old problem. Funny how they say 9k names is too little so they make it 1 only
Honestly! I feel like there would be a little bit of backlash if they added letters (if they hadn't mentioned the new username system), but not NEARLY as much as what they're doing now
@@BurntSushi. I can't see why, I'd think it;s funny in the scenario someone pays for nitro to have their discriminator be butt.
@@kneelessnightcat9164 right? With letters added they'd just get even more money! And they could even make it so that letters only start to appear once the 9999 numbers have already been picked, if they are *really* worried
Imagine using a unique new username system that solves a bunch of problems and then unsolving those problems.
personally the main problem i have with the update is that i get way more bogus friend requests.
i got my old 5 character username just fine. couldnt get the exact one i wanted, but that was already full in the old system so that makes sense.
but with one letter to number, i got it just fine since ive been here a while
This is probably related to some database changes due to amount of usernames. Probably similar reasons when they redid the messaging system.
Gotta love how the first thing discord mods did is giving themselves the "ultra-rare" 3 letter usernames
And? These people are responsible for keeping Discord running as a service. Without them there'd be no Discord for people to use, ofcourse they get first dibs over anyone else. Plus you can trust them better than anyone else to not break ToS by account selling. I'm not a fan of the new system, but complaining about staff getting it first makes no sense
@@bulletnotloaded3586 bro we cant even trust them to remove child predators from the platform
@@bulletnotloaded3586 "Why would we need to trust them if this new system is so much better". The fact they knew they would get issues from this new system, and still go along with it is a huge problem.
discord a copy cheap of guild app , lol @@bulletnotloaded3586
@@bulletnotloaded3586 "you can trust them better than anyone else to not break ToS by account selling."
Or, alternatively, just don't make a system that encourages account selling... like, forexample, allow multiple people to have the same username... hear me out.
They could program it so that everyone get a four number identifier with their username, that way, a "rare valuable" username would lose all value because you could literally make 9999 copies of it....
I know it's an original idea that's never been done before, but I think it could work!
I love Linus but if he thought for a couple seconds longer he probably would have realised that while which character you use is somewhat arbitrary, having something there is a very useful tool to distinguish that this is a username. Additionally the @ symbol works well with the existing mention system making it basically not arbitrary at all.
Admittedly, thats true but theres undoubtedly a better system, maybe just have it as 'username AS displayname' or something, because the @ is still just a little gross for most people who have rightfully started viewing twitter as gross.
@@AstralDragn Twitter's been a gross cesspit for years now. I don't think anything there has changed
If you stopped to think you'd realize that the feature of the @ symbol already present in discord would functionally clash with an @ symbol forced at the start of the name. Trying to tag somebody with the display name "Ian" if they're not the twat referred to in the video who's taken "ian" as a username then we're now in the crossroads of "did we mean to ping the guy with the display name "Ian" in this discord, or are we posting the username for a shitty staff member?
Since the "@" already serves a different purpose, using it anywhere else will cause problems.
My only issue with the lack of the poundsign/hashtag and numbers is that it makes it easier to be impersonated if someone were to find a loophole. If there's not a loophole, there's nothing to worry about, but no code is perfect.
before they changed it I used to mention a lot how much more I like discords username system over every other system. now it's just the same as almost every other app out there
Calling it a "vocal minority" has gotta be incorrect. I have not seen a single person in support or even neutral about these changes out of the 32 servers im in. Discord is literally shooting themself in the chest with these changes
The vocal minority, as in in the feedback page. Only 3K people.. out of idk... millions... actually went up to the feedback page and started telling Discord not to implement this feature.
the problem here is that there's a LOT of "dead" accounts : students who made one to join a class server during lockdown, people who stopped using discord, people who just didn't like discord and never went back on it without deleting their account, unused alt accounts for recovery purposes or simply unused alt accounts...
Also there's a lot of people who are not even aware of the change yet because they don't watch NTTS and disabled discord emails
So if we counted only active discord users, I'm pretty sure most of them are against this update, however the line between "active" and "dead" account is too blurry to legitimately count this way and discord has no interest in proving themselves wrong, so they count the millions of accounts created no matter who are behind and that's a big enough number to make the vocal a minority :')
@@oxymore13 At this rate Discord should roll out a "we'll terminate any inactive accounts after 90 days of inactivity." update.
I'm "in support" if i can get the exact username I want, which lets be fr is unlikely..
@@BlackLivesMatter1414 When's the last time you deleted an old account for a service you don't use? Also some people does not a majority make. I don't know about the dead accounts thing (which tbh probably has at least some merit to it) but the idea that you can gauge the community's response to this rollout based on one support page that no one uses is stupid. I've been a Discord user for a very long time now and a nitro subscriber for about 2 years and have been to that website maybe twice.
"Discord didn't listen" is perhaps even more obvious than the sky is blue. When has Discord ever listened to us? Certainly not at the unnecessary brand change 2 years ago when everyone hated it and called for its reversion. Same thing here. Discord doesn't give a shit because its users actually do.
The sky isn't actually blue, we just see it that way, but discord has never cared about it's users unless they give it money
that's large companies in a nutshell... youtube removed the dislike counter and in one of their official announcement videos they said "you'll get over it." and we totally did.
Back to IRC?
Once a company amasses a large enough following, they can pull whatever shit they want with minimal repercussions, all for their own benefit. It's happened with literally everything you can think of, since there's no better place to go.
@@nootics I got over by the removed dislike button by using a browser addon to put it back in.
In short, the only reason most people are "over it" is because we could find a relatively low effort way to un-fuck it.
It's weird that they want to change it cause of the numbers on the basis of "they're hard to remember." There's no need to remember them (except your own username which isnt hard), you only need it for adding friends which you can either tell them on the spot or write it done. Otherwise, there's no hassle to it; and since Discord is a social platform having the numbers allows multiple users to have the same name. This isn't like Twitter where you're trying to brand yourself and build a following, you're just hanging out with friends and meeting like-minded people.
I literally had the four numbers in memory without even trying, very disappointed they took that away. Great job, Discord.
What will this cause:
-impersonating
-scams
-getting hacked
Yea
the getting hacked part is because of cool looking names, right
@@krasistefanovlol Right
@@krasistefanovlol Yeah, some people will do anything to have a name they want.
-Backlash
-Users leaving the platform and migrating to different websites
dont forget ur privacy too
It’s insane more companies are moving away from this awful @ system but now Discord wants to be late to the party and embrace it.
Moving away from? YT basically introduced the @ system recently.
@@vinetak2645 better than whatever the fuck the + system was
I had my username as bread for years now and seeing that list made me so angry just now knowing that I won't even have the possibility to keep my username
CAn we just take a minute to appreciate how good Discord is at making terrible updates :D
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It really upsets me that some usernames are claimed by "companies", my user was Meta for a long time and since facebook for some reason decided to change that now I cant have my name anymore, pretty cool right
I somehow never knew this was a thing. I keep getting the pop up for switching my username to the new system but have just ignored it all this time so I still have the # in my discord name. Now I'm going to keep it till it forces me to switch my username lol.
Fixing something not broken? nah dawg, we breaking something working fine now
If they wanted to prevent common 4 letter usernames from getting all taken, why didn't they just make a minimum character limit dor future accounts? Thats much easier to do, and wouldn't have nearly the same amount of backlash.
Oh no but then ian wouldn’t get his username :(
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