Dealerships are Getting What They Deserve
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.พ. 2025
- IN this video we’re gonna talk about the issue with most dealerships. They are struggling financially right now, most franchise dealerships, like Ford, and especially dodge Jeep and ram dealerships  and this video we’re gonna talk about some of the issues with the wholesale prices coming down  and just overall the dealerships are getting what they deserve people are finally slowing down buying vehicles the supplies up and the demand is down 
Remember when trucks were affordable and for working people?
And they were much smaller. Today peoples buy f-150 all over the place. At that time, pick up were more on the size of a Maverick. But hey, you'll be suprise how many peoples think that when you buy bigger, only the monthly payment increase...
And you are right, they were mainly for peoples that really need one...
Peoples do whatever they want with their money. It just make me laugh whe they buy big vehicle and then play it victim...
Remember when those trucks had vinyl seats, three on the column and roll up windows?
@@chashue6032 Hell yeah. Good times
Trucks were also built for working people
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
100K for a damn truck?? Does it make coffee, drive itself, and do your work for you? Insanity.
No, but there are 8 cup holders
Yes, but they have 6 way tailgates ( :
It better rub my back and feet on the way home.
100,000 is not enough money for a truck I think they should add 15,000 more dollars to that figure. No one’s gonna buy it anyways.
For that $$$, it better make wives obsolete!! 😂
What nightmare world did we wake up in where $55k gets you the "economy" trim?
One in which prices are artificially inflated by a Government preventing imports. The US legitimately thinks its own auto cos can't compete with foreign ones.
The same nightmare where 550$ for a GPU is considered “budget”
@@AMabud-lv7hy Same scam. In actual user scenarios (not benchmarks that are squeezing it to the maximum, actual user scenarios, where you'll be okay playing on Very High graphics instead of Ultra, which is visually barely different), the 1080ti is only 10% worse then all but the most expensive 4000 series card. And that card is how old? And if you want to play on 1080p, and don't need 4k (like me), a 1080ti is basically indistinguishable for gaming.
Cars and GPUs are both charging 3-4x what they used to, but with no practical improvement, just 'sell sheet' tat that doesn't actually improve your experience enough to justify the price cost.
Because imports are banned for 20 year wait limit. Have you seen the Japanese two seat 4x4 pickup that is only $11k? Our auto market has failed and is about to die completely. We are turning into Brazil in real time.
@@perciusmandate you can thank hubris for that. People always gotta out do the neighbors, and they'll gladly pay any amount to be in the lead for what? A week? A month? Stealerships know a sucker is born every second, and they price accordingly.
Most of these vehicles shouldnt even be worth 50k-70k thats insane.
Most of them are not worth $20,000.00
Pay 50k for a new American automobile and it gets recalled 3 months later
ALL cars shouldn't be worth *that* much, regardless if it just rolled out the assembly line. If a car is special edition or a classic rare model then that's a different story
Most of them aren't worth more than 35,000, but hey. It won't change until dealers start closing down.
@@Imhimonthestreet supply versus demand.alot of people now get a truck for looks. Trucks are made for work. I have an 02 Silverado that looks like it's been rode hard and put away wet. she just won't quit and I love it.
$130K for a regular truck? I bought my house for that much in 2017. Ridiculous.
lol. Bought my first house for 100k. A “fixer upper.” Well, I fixed it up and sold it for a real house. Easy Peasy.
@@tekay44 dang how'd you do that
I payed 83k for mine, now it's worth 800k , I did double the size of it, but did it myself , except for the rough plumbing under the slab . I can't afford to buy my own house. 2025 is going to hit the fan
People will buy trucks even if they go to 300k, as long a they can get 15 years payment plan.
Houses cost 3x that now unfortunately.
There has been a new Bronco at our local dealership with a sign in the window that says ‘Now only $90,000’
Who the hell would pay that for a *bronco* ???
value export markets, but they dont pay your taxes and fees and thats the thanksgiving truth
In 1966, a bronco was worth around $2,400. Today, that same bronco would be worth roughly $24,000 when accounting for inflation. Dealers are hiking that price up x4 or more for a new bronco. Insane.
@@hampter2445 in 1966 a bronco was 2400. in 2025 that same 1966 bronco is STILL 2400
In Europe that was the price of a base model Porsche 911 a few years ago
DO NOT BUY A NEW CAR! LET THESE THINGS ROT AT THE PRICES THEY WANT FOR IT!
Right on.
All that cheap plastic should rot pretty fast. New cars are crap.
@@midcenturymodern9330 They will fall apart like a wet taco.
Yup. They've been ripping us off for decades!!
@@DBAllen 🤣
And the manufacturer CEO's are upset at us buyers for being too poor to afford their overpriced big trucks.
maybe they should have a meeting with the CEO of United Healthcare. oh wait....
@robertravena
No, I think you've got an idea, there. Never said they had to meet on this plane of existence.
Yeah…cry me some crocodile tears eh
@@robertravena no you are right
Ha Ha Ha, dealers are a..holes
Americans are tired of middle men. whether it be in car shopping or healthcare. you're learning my friends!
I stopped buy anything made in usa after they went into Iraq, best decision I've made for my conscience. I added france to that list after Libya and germany, italy, canada after they supported the G-side by izrahel.
When the Government is actively ensuring the middle men stay in place, and work with the corpos to keep it that way... The solution is not more government...
Especially when, having worked for said US Government, its "free" is usually mediocre.
Example: The VA, despite existing for nearly 80 years, still struggles to help Veterans with Disabilities, Healthcare and basic amenities for those with extreme issues needing intensive attention. And the health insurance is free, garnered by service to country. That's less than 5% of the American population and the Government struggles and even ARGUES about how to help veterans. The people who signed the dotted line for various personal reasons, and served under that government... And said government can't even bother to give a smidge of concern, let alone ounce of care, for us, until election time.
We are a token minority like Black Voters and Women Voters. We only matter every 4 years and then placed on the back burner when elections are over...
And you want that same Government in charge of the other 95% of Americans their Healthcare?
They can't even keep Social Security going past 2035 because they keep using it as a slush fund resource to fund pet projects because they are 33 Trillion dollars in debt and the Tax GDP can't cover it...
I'd trust my neighbor before I trusted suits in a nice building with a multimillion net value on a high 6 figure federal income, who illegally perform insider trading...
@@auntiesemite9295Might run out of places to buy cars then eventually haha 😅
@@auntiesemite9295 But Russia and China is still Fine? 😂
@@JohnDoe-wt9ek My way of putting it is "We really live in a time where trusting a drug dealer in a hoodie standing in a back alley is preferable to anyone wearing a suit. You can never truly tell what the suit will do."
They tried to screw me over with 10k over the price so I just kept my old car but know they are calling me and sending me emails. No thanks I’m good
That extra $10K is enough for a second used car. 🚗🚙
Why you giving dealerships your email address, phone number even? When they marking up 10k(or at all)?
2008 Honda Fit just keeps on running! Shove that new overpriced sideways !
What goes around comes around so if I were you I would stick it to them, offer to buy $15,000 below MSRP.
We got a 2010 ford ranger xlt 4.0 with 126.000 milesfor 11500 be fore tax they wanted 13456 runs drill great
I gotta be real with you dealers.
I don't want to buy a car that is bigger than a WW1 era tank
I do
But for that price I might aswell restore an old ISU 152 and spend the rest on, dunno, bubblegum or something
@@thegodofvodkai saw a driving Hetzer Tank Destroyer for i think 200k a few years ago.
I dont know of ANY car thats bigger than a tank.
@@redrustyhill2some say that a modern USA pickup truck is bigger then the Sherman tank
@@redrustyhill2Chevy Tahoe is bigger than a Sherman. 😂
A guy I work with bought a 2024 truck, don't know what model. $80k. His monthly payments were over a grand. Guy was working 7, 8, 9 days in a row, 12 hour shifts to pay for the thing. He had to sign a waiver with the company to work that many hours in a row. A couple weeks ago, he tells me "I'm thinking about buying a car!" I asked him why. "To save miles on my truck.." I will never understand spending that much money on a vehicle, then spending more money to not drive it. The market is insane right now, dealerships deserve to fail if nobody can afford any of their overpriced junk.
Guy sounds like a liability. Don't let him make any decisions at work that affect you!
Guy sounds like an entitled fool, don’t buy what you can’t afford. Econ 101, not taught at woke schools.
imagine: a socialist is jumping around at the export value parkinglot and selling fairy tales without sense
export market dont sell to americans and all "american brands" dont produced anymore in the US...
...and trump said to the EU bollocks in davos _" those industries which interested will be welcome with nearby zero taxfee "_
will the greened eel realise that apples can be faulty when they are lying too long around ? #whatsaboutwormsinipads
He's a good consumer. 🤫
Tell him to get a fkn bicycle or an electric scooter before he goes and buy a car while still making those payments on his truck lol
Hopefully this time when manufacturers go bankrupt, they wont get bailed out again with our tax dollars.
They will smh
That is actually the biggest part of this problem. Our Gov is protecting corporate greed from any consequence.
Omfg THE PEOPLE HAVE ALL THE DAMN POWER. There's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THEY CAN DO IF WE DONT BUY THAT INCLUDES BAILING THEM OUT EVEN THAT WONT HELP like damn where is you damn spine.
They most definitely will get bailed-out with our money. It’s a reflection of how broken our systems are. Corporate welfare at the expense of those of us that these unfathomably rich companies scam everyday. Disgusting.
Well, if you know Trump…
It's wild to see $80-100K trucks and no bed liner. Not even a cheap plastic one.
It's cause these truck aren't marketed at people who want to haul things with them.
it's wild to see $80-100k trucks in general
Bought my truck back in 2020 and I had to strong arm them into putting in a liner for me after asking $1000 over msrp and giving me dirt for my trade. I can see why no one wants the dealership experience anymore.
Yeap. They want more money and giving you less features.
@@donkarnage2568 That's true - Just pickup versions of the old H2 Hummers built to show off your wealth.
The fact that so many dealerships around here never sell cars but stay in business proves there is illegal shit going on with no regulation.
You’re right NOBODY has shed a tear over car salesman and dealerships taking Ls
No way am I buying one of those overpriced sh*tboxes. The only way they're going to learn is when it hits their bottom line HARD.
it's a carlot for value export markets - they dont want sell you !!!
Too bad our income doesn’t keep up with inflation
What inflation 😮😮 it's gaugation period ,call it what it is ,greed on every American good
Bernie tried -- long before that I put it on Reagan and his war on the working class, especially organized bargaining.
Seems to me America is doing great financially... It's just the actual Americans that are hurting. Now ask yourself: "Where does all that money actually go? Up, it goes upwards, not downwards. It always does. Could that have something to do with the wealthiest people in the country being determined to rig the system in their favour by financing "pro-business" political candidates who will crawl over broken glass to prevent change?
@@graydanerasmussen4071 Americans have been financing their "lifestyle" for decades. MASSIVE credit card debt and wages stagnant to keep it that way. Plus, they overspend on things that aren't necessities.
@@chashue6032Bull keep voting democrat putting brain dead biden in office. Blame every bit of it on bidens and the lefts war on oil. Soon Big Don will turn this 💩 around
My wife and I are seniors living on SSI and needed a new ride. I looked at the little Ford Matrix truck. On top of the base price going up the dealer had every after market item they could put on it installed. It was over 30K!! I simply had a new engine built for my full size truck. I have no use for a dealership!!
For what they're wanting on new cars, you can take half that and completely rebuild your existing car. I have a 14 year old Camry with over 300k miles on it and it STILL runs like a champ. When it croaks I'm going to rebuild it completely and throw a middle finger at the dealers.
@@kyearwood3652 "When it croaks" I wouldn't bet on it. If you're treating it right and servicing it (which I bet you are, since you're talking about rebuilding it when it dies) those things can easily run into the 500k miles range. You're gonna have that Camry forever haha
I love the ceramic coats, no proof that there were any coats applied (whether it's useful or not) and they add 2k to the price. Stealership.
Once again, they did it to themselves.
100%
Dealerships did not cause inflation. The high price phenomenon affects every market, not just new cars
@@Blacksheepis500selling vehicles 5, 10, 15k over sticker doesn't cause inflation?
@@Blacksheepis500 No...they saw the opportunity to make more money and the took advantage of it. Dealers made record profits in the early 2020's
@@turnneIt's about to come to a screeching halt now. People are sick and tired of getting "screwed over,".
I was going to buy a 2012 Boss 302, listed at 40k. Ok, fair enough. But when the salesman told me that there was a 20k “market adjustment “, I walked. That, in a nutshell, is what is wrong. Dealerships have become stealerships, so, yeah. Zero sympathy.
I would have pointed my finger to my ass and told him "Here's my market adjustment " and walk out.
@@lensalvo6105 terrible. Greed
Stealerships have NEVER been on your side. They just can't hide it anymore.
Same here. Scum business practices at the dealer.
@@lensalvo6105 thieves
So many problems with new cars. They even are starting to make you pay monthly subscriptions for things like navigation! Greed, greed, greed in every corner of society
WHAT!?! A MONTHLY SUBSCRIPTION FOR NAVIGATION!?!?! MF I GET MAPS ON MY PHONE FOR FREE!!!! IF MY CAAR REQUIRES A SUBSCRIPTION TO USE A FEATURE THEN THAT AINT A CAR IM BUYING!!!
Bro hopefully you don't pay for navigation. Although subscription for navigation has been around for a while. You can use google or apple maps on your phone for free.
its the fact lobbyists pay to ban vehicles from asian countries, that new toyota hilux champ for $12k is banned
you could honestly build your own vehicle for half the price they want
If they had these trucks they would sell faster than Flash Gordon
The problem is all of the CAFE and safety regulations.
@@londomolari5715 For that Hilux Champ yes, it's not fuel efficient. But generally blaming CAFE standards for upsizing is just propaganda. Plenty of small and normal cars around the world meet those standards. You can get better quality too. But US manufactures bribed politicans to protect their market, and to get loopholes and weaker standards for trucks and big cars, and then they started to go boohoo over the normal standards.
There is a lot of corruption in the car industry. Tesla has started a new trend that people do not need a dealership, they can buy directly from factory people can pick and choose the options they want so the customer gets what they want and the cost is the same across the board there is no middle man jacking up the price.
Many states have banned buying directly from factory because they don't get the tax dollars as the sell doesn't happen in the state, also large dealerships have bribed representatives to try and keep these laws.
Once people can buy directly from factory dealerships, will turn into repair shops to service and fulfill warranty responsibilities when something that is under warranty breaks.
There's been a huge push to ban kei trucks in the last 5 years too.
Those things run forever, can easily find them for ~$5k. Yea, they're not a full size, not suitable for highway... but they're perfect if you have a ranch and want something that can also run to Home Depot or grocery store.
4wd, can attach a snow plow, hydraulic dump beds. Perfect little swiss army knife of a truck for really cheap... and States are going crazy banning them. Justifying it b/c they don't have the power to go on the highways... but they're more capable than these Smart Cars and Mopeds I see. Those aren't getting banned.
Even worse is that these new cars aren’t built to last like older cars and they are so advanced with computers that you can’t even work on them anymore to save money. 💰
At least on my 2021 Peugeot Partner I can switch lightbulbs with ease and refill fluids if needed any more advanced stuff I have not needed to bother with yet since the service timer usually runs to zero before that so off to car service garages I go
Forget about saving money. It should be a basic requirement, the right to repair. The fact we cannot repair or modify things we own without manufacturer or dealership permission overseen by trained techs is criminal. Look into John Deere tractors and the downright dystopian software built into them. They completely shut down when a single sensor fails, and the only way to fix it is to take it out to a John Deere technician. So the farmers must move their bricked tractor with a huge truck out of the fields and into the city, wait hours or days for a repair, painfully high costs, and the return journey. All to harvest their field, which may be too late by the time it is all said and done. When it could be able to just be bypassed, or repaired by hand in minutes.
@@pauldeddens5349 you said it with more detail than i would've, excellent comment. but god did it remind me of shit that pissed me off. i hate this lack of control corpos are giving you over the things you own.
Thats right not only over priced but built to fail .Its like inflation and shrinkflation !
You're not able to work on them by design, just look at what John Deere is doing to farmers
How the hell do they expect people to buy vehicles when we can’t even afford to pay rent, food, insurance. A new car is the last thing anyone wants. Inflation crazy
the only way they will come down in price is if people stop buying.
What I used to see, when sales went down, the prices actually went up
yes 🙌 if people stand united on this, something will have to change
@@ghostrider6267 you just described commercial realtors 😂 “the more murders that occur outside, the more money we charge. the weirder, more outdated, and more inconvenient the layout is, the more we can charge. has the building been vacant for six years because the rent is too high? that’s a sign that rent is not high enough, we need to charge more money. updating an old unit? time to charge everyone more money to cover the cost! why no, I have no idea how capitalism works, why do you ask? isn’t that the one where I pay nothing and everyone gives me money?”
You're never going to see a cheap American car again. What will happen is they will give up and remove the auto-import 20 year ban and then we will all just buy japanese and asian cars instead and our auto market will be done.
Never understood why they don’t let people buy direct from manufacturers. It would be better for everyone except the dealer
tldr: corpos corrupted laws meant to protect small scale vendors
as always, its because of outdated laws. back in the 40's and 50's, most dealerships were mom and pop type businesses, think a corner store but for car sales and service. this was fine when automobiles were first becoming a thing, but after WW2, most car companies were able to switch back to civilian market and started opening brand specific stores, which cut out the private businesses, who then inevitably started complaining about it. after a bit of lobbying, this resulted in it being illegal to not sell new vehicles through a 3rd party dealership. you can see some newer companies like Tesla skirting this by only having showrooms and having the rest of the purchasing process be done online, but most legacy brands already have established buisness relations and don't see the need to move online.
Look at the political party that dealerships usually donate to. Connect the dots.
Like the guy above said, outdated laws. But now dealerships lobby to keep those laws in place so they can middleman profiteer
It was good in the past since it was expensive to send the cars to everyone in the US, so dealerships were necessary. The problem is that now, with the way the world is connected, dealerships are not necessary anymore, but in order to protect their monopoly they continue to lobby the government which continues to protect them at the expense of normal people.
Because Americans idea of the free market is fucked
I absolutely agree that vehicle prices are out of control. Here is the thing though... I've been watching videos like these for the past 6-7 months? What I haven't seen are prices come down. I am afraid that this is just going to be normalized and from "now" on this is simply how much vehicles are going to cost.
I forget who in the comments said that you could, once, buy a house for 120K, you still can! Sure, in the middle of nowhere and a small place, but you still can! We are now paying as much for a vehicle as a damn house!
They should start selling mansions to homeless people
Or cars they can't get rid of.
....ALL HOPES FOR TRUMP WILL MAKE EVERYTHING RIGHT
.......ALL I CAN SAY.....
@@robotnikkkk001 Shit's gonna shoot up anywhere from 15-25% for most things now if Trumps tariffs go through. So yeah, unlikely lol.
Screw over your customers, you will pay later
Amen
Stelantis can't figure out why no one is buying Jeeps anymore and they've reacted very negatively to their dealers who have plainly told them that the insane mark-ups are the reason why no one buys their vehicles.
Yep, all for short term gain.
No foresight at all. Now, they're gonna pay for it. 😂
Unless your an insurance company
@@TerpDerp dang, so true bro......
Twenty six years ago I bought a nice truck, with lots of extras included, for 32,000. That truck is still with me. I'm keeping it, because the prices I've been seeing for trucks, and the fact that trucks are HUGE now compared to what they were before (and I don't need huge), it's actually less expensive for me to put hundreds of dollars into fixing what ails my truck instead of buying new.
Im still driving my 50 year old vehicles !
I refuse to pay the outrageous prices !
Loaded with all kinds of crap i don't want or need !
To hell with them.
All kinds of crap is right. Start with power windows.
Cheaper to fix than buy new one!!!! If Cuba can do it so can we!!
@@TimothyHandl power windows don't work in water, but the hand cranked ones DO. Good luck finding those, however.
@@daredevil1956 Cuba doesn't have the EPA, and I wonder what's undere the hood of those classic vehicles?
My truck is 25 years old . Would love to have a new pick up but they are just too expensive. I seen a 2020 GMC loaded it had sticker at 44 thousand and it had 125 thousand miles . 60 more miles then my old truck 🤦
No sympathy with these greedy dealers as now the people hold the power 👍
Trumps still a felon though.
The dealership I work just recently blanket dropped prices 15% and are still barely selling cars.
Its crazy how they talk about the prices though, saying stuff like “people save up there whole lives to afford these cars so they can be proud of them” shits so fucked up
I don’t give two shits about these crooked ass dealerships crying that no one is buying cars.
These leeches did it to themselves.
“Market adjustment” at 40K for a car ? Man GTFOH, I bought a used Volvo instead and never looked back.
I’ll NEVER buy a new car or truck again, they’ve just gotten way too expensive.
100k for a ford model teabag... the dream of "every american a brand new car" comes true
what does mean ford to be a car ?
Ten years ago a hundred grand could buy you a house and now it won't get you a new pickup truck.
We've got serious problems.
Who'd you vote for bud
@@johnf817both parties are owned by the same bank bud. Kennedy warned the sheeple 60 years ago.
@@johnf817 i voted for trump but as long as we use fiat currency and not gold or bitcoin infalation will continue. regardless of president my man.....smh
@@johnf817WHO'D you voted for, "bud:?
Obviously not that collectivist warmongering economy and business destroying coward that will be gone by next month? Right, "bud"?
The irony of the stupid is palpable.
Don't forget your mask and shots.
You can buy a brand new f150 for 48k. This video and the commenters on the video are cherry picking and showing trucks that are literally the most expensive in their lineup. It’s not like every truck out there is 100k.
John Adams 1826 - 'There are two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.'
Bring them trucks down to $35 to $55k and we'll be back.
Otherwise fix what ya got-
Oh ya I see it now a 3500 with 6.6L with power reclining heated and cooled seats, and a TV in the back for my kids that is my need to have list for no more than $40k. And I want the dealer to throw in free mud guards and oil changes for life. And it has to be all blacked out. "Otherwise fix what I got"
@@kelviskelvis7140 I hear ya, I drive a 2007 cobalt and I just keep fixing it. great little easy to work on car
No that's still over priced!
That 55k also needs to be at least a full ton truck with all the bells and whistles
$55k after financing ,TVT, taxes, misc fees you'll end up $85k out.
It's almost like making it impossible for anyone to buy your vehicles is bad for your business
Right? Who would've thunk it
The government also designed cities to force people to drive just to get groceries, which helps car manufacturers/dealerships, since customers MUST purchase their products eventually. I want to live somewhere that the government doesn't prop up the car industry.
But it does wonders for _this_ quarter's profits, and isn't that what really matters?
@@pdblouinlol this is not a thing
@@Whatisrock237 lol it quite literally is. Do basic research on how cities were designed and built before cars, and look how many train stations and public transit stations were demolished to make more roads. The automotive lobby is one of the most powerful lobbies on the damn planet.
News cars should be like 30-40k.. trucks MAYBE 60k if it's huge.
Earlier this year, I went to test drive a new car. At the end of the test drive, the sales manager told me the price was $4,000 over sticker and this was a deal because a few months before, he was getting $7,000 over sticker. I left and kept my 13 year old car.
A couple years ago it was normal to walk if they even tried to charge sticker.
Never pay sticker, damn sure don't pay above that.
i hope you ran away at the same shouting " you know where to shove your over sticker "
Good!
What is the point of a MSRP?
When they cut prices AT LEAST IN HALF I might start looking
At the minimum
I couldn’t afford that.
140k /2 is 70k. No Fuxxing way! 40k tops
And insurance will still be high and you need to start saving for costly repairs after the warranty expires.
And the yearly taxes on a new car are outrageous.
What we need is simple, mechanical cars that can be easily repaired by the owner themselves with a little elbow grease. That is without mentioning the fact that it needs to be reliable and affordable, bring us back to the old days
Every five or six years I buy three new pick up trucks for my business. Right after Covid my usual dealership wanted $330,000 so I walked out the door. They were trying to rip me off with a bunch of add-ons. I’m still angry about it. I take excellent pair of my vehicles and I have no reason to buy new. They can rot on the lot. The new vehicles are junk anyway.
Go through your fleet and make sure they are in tip top shape, wait another five years
@ I spent a lot of money on maintenance and keep my vehicles in perfect condition. It’s much cheaper to maintain a vehicle than buy a new one.
I’m from Australia so the tax law may be different, but can you run depreciation over 5 years on your business vehicles?
I saw a commercial the other day, promising $15.000 off! That only means they were that much over priced before.
What’s amazing is how the price you see on the internet might be $57,000 but when they quote you the price it’s always $6-8k more. Dealer called me and asked “ did we miss anything “ I said yeah the price
It’s all games. They do it in hopes of getting you in the dealership.
It's their cut. Sales people get a cut of every sale so the more money they get you to spend the bigger their cut. Trouble is, no one regulates what basically is a legal scam so they jackp up the prices out of greed and now they ended up shooting themselves on the foot by not only not getting their cuts, but also not making their quotas
What also pisses me off is that most of those prices are for if you want to finance . If you want to pay cash they will mark up the price or remove any discount offering .
@@VisualEnjoyer9756 I worked for 3 Toyota Dealerships for 8 years+, I did not "sell" cars, Car Salsemen (Usually) make a Minimum or did when they sell at MSRP, if they sell Options or get a Better Price they can get a Bonus on Top, but it is "not" Salsemen who make the Lions Share of the money, that goes to the Finance Managers and Upstairs to the GM.
The Best Car Salsemen I ever saw had 0 Ethics, No Conscience, Could Lie straight into their own Mothers Face without blinking, and were Pure Assholes, and they Vet these "Qualifications" when they think about retaining you, it was Shit 20 years ago, I can only Imagine now
My Better half bought a 42k Mile Mini for 15k from a Dealership last Summer, she Financed it, made 1 payment and then paid the Balance off, I told her to do this.
This isn't "just car dealerships", it is Idiots Financing 100k Vehicles and "the UAW along with the Big 3" setting MSRP's, dealerships get what they get, it is those Manufacturers who price the Vehicles, dealerships live with it.
Brought to you by the Commie Liberals in DC and elswhere who do not want anyone buying any ICE's anyway.
Everything seen here is 100% Intentional.
@@VisualEnjoyer9756but what value do they bring to this whole operation ? Why do they have to make their "cut" ?
The fact that you can only buy cars through a dealership in the US is crazy to me, and honestly seems like evil capitalism, forcing normal people to get ‘middleman taxed’. In my country dealerships usually sell pre-owned vehicles, sure some sell new vehicles as well, but majority of the time, when people wants to buy a brand new Benz, well they go to the Benz showroom.
Saw a video in the past about this issue as well.
Dealers were sticking it to buyers with big premiums for the privilege of buying their garbage. Now, that they can’t give them away they’re begging for buyers. But, they still won’t sell their crappy cars and trucks at a discount. $100k for a Bronco is insane.
$100k for a Bronco? Does it come with O.J Simpson's corpse? 😆
I'm second gen Ford/UAW (retired) and told them for years that the factories need to own the dealers to eliminate the middleman & their gross markups!
No excuses now
@@unionrdr yes a good idea. Buy greed goes down the line
What stopped you from opening up your own factory and selling directly to the public?
@@jocarson5310
Do you think he's a millionaire??
@@jocarson5310 wtf were those politician parties which protected criminal insane pirates in the 20th century which came from the orion belt ?
Chevy stopped making sparks because they supposedly weren’t selling well enough but they keep desperately pushing their EVs that nobody wants. Please bring back fair priced economy cars.
EVs are the future. You sound the people who said horseless carriages would never catch on. Just say you can't afford one.
I’m 50/50 that you’re a bot because what you said to me was utter nonsense. Maybe you just didn’t catch it. My problem is price… I (and many others) DONT want an EV because it IS super expensive. Like what the hell else do you think I’m saying?
The Spark was a decent economy car the problem is Chevy NEVER marketed it right
@fallout0624 Now that you say it, I don’t remember any marketing for it at all. It took me actual research to find out that it was the perfect car for me and I really thought Chevy was catering to customers like me when I found out about it. I don’t see a vehicle as a status symbol or anything to be super proud of, shoot, I only own one because I absolutely don’t have a choice living in the United States. I just wanted the bare minimum in a vehicle, for it to get me from point a to point b and be fairly priced, and that’s it. I literally could care less about anything else but it’s looking like decent economy cars are going the way of the dodo to make way for these EVs and big trucks that nobody is buying. It really baffles me that none of the manufacturers predicted this market shift and planned accordingly.
@@macandcheese7632 Chevy is a company that really struggles to market, the Spark was a good car but you had to actually go out of your way to find out about it or randomly come across one in the lot
No new car is worth more than $20k period.
@ms.annthrope415 I guess you've never heard of mark-up value. Car dealerships have some of the highest mark-ups of any industry.
I cant spend over 25k for any vehicle. These prices are straight BS
@lukedaron8838 totally. Markup is markup, in reality these cars aren't really worth said markup price. 20k for sure
Wish I could like this 1000x, you are spot on!!!!!
Spot on!
It's one thing to pay a lot of money for a quality well-built vehicle...BUT...it's quite another to pay a lot of money for a troublesome rolling piece of junk! What the hell ever happened to quality?
unions
@@thatwenchAnd they went on strike to get more money under the pretense that they can’t afford the cars they make. Good job, you’re contributing to rising costs that will price many of Americans out of the market, so we’ll see how long you keep your jobs. And many of them vote blue, the party responsible for strong arming the manufacturers into the disastrous EV market that most don’t want or can afford.
@@thatwenchKia has unions? Because my used on has been a worthless POS for a while now. Company and dealership are definitely not trying to make it right. 😡
Capitalism.... that's what.
@@thatwench Bullsh*t.
BUY LESS STUFF and the prices will have to come back down. I'm saying this to anyone who will listen. If we all go a year without buying 'new' or unnecessary things, they will HAVE TO LOWER PRICES. Or they'll all go out of business. Stop buying 'New" things. Stop buying things you don't need. You can do it for a year.
New cars are no good. They are too complicated. You cannot repair them when they break. They cost too much. Insurance is out of hand. Tags are too expensive. Any car built after the 1980s are no good. There are too many computers. The fobs die, leaving you stranded. You can't get the motor out without removing the body. I wish I could buy a compact pickup but they do not exist, just monster trucks. I don't want something the size of a city bus.
If we could do away with the private import ban, there are lots of countries that have small trucks like what you're talking about.
1980s is a whack number but I getcha, and they would just charge you unfair prices if you were buying a small truck too 🤷♀️
Look at Ford, "We are going to start making the Ranger again!" I was so excited, what did they do? The made a new truck about the 7/8 the size of the F-150. Car manufacturers lobbied the government to make laws so that they could not build small trucks, something to do with wheel base and fuel economy.
You mean 90s because anything pre fuel injection is trash
Motorcycle is the way to go, don't need insurance, very cheap and easy to repair. Only downside is other crazy drivers. But you can save alot! Of money. In the summer tho you tend to sweat alot , I always wear Motorcycle gear and it can start to smell really bad in the summer.
price needs to come down like 90%
Yep
🤣🤣
So you should be able to buy a vehicle that cost $30K to build for a third of the price? Then don't complain when it doesn't last, or is crap quality. Or when the workers decide that you've lived too long.
@TheoHawk316 doesnt have to be bad quality
@TheoHawk316 current new cars dont last long either way
I had a deal lined up for a 2024 F150 Lariat last month, MSRP was like $75,000, which is insane for a mid-trim level truck to begin with. They knocked it down to $67,000 out the door with the Holiday incentives and I double checked their inventory before I pulled the trigger. Luckily there was a 2023 F150 Platinum trim on their lot, used with only 19,000 miles for $52,000. So, I went with the Platinum. Higher trim level, only 1 year old, only 19,000 miles and it saved me $15,000. The salesman was visibly upset that I decided to not go with the brand new truck.
_" F-150 mid-trim level truck "_
...comes the F-650 around and says _" hello alien on mask "_ and _" zwitter not needed in the underground "_ , farts the tweetie and the driver died by carbonmonoxyde
coroner: nice color, indian !
This is why I happily ride a motorcycle. I can buy a premium Japanese 1000cc for $12k. I can buy a nice used 1000cc for $3K. I’ve been car free for years.
That’s great if you live in the city, in a rural, mountainous area you basically need a enclosed vehicle like a SUV or a truck that can handle the terrain
@@jacksheppard2096 dont forget about rain and snow!
Yeah it’s nice but, when it comes to gear it definitely adds up lol
Cant sleep in your motorcycle
Another motorcycle benefit: You can get a bike that will smoke most "fast" cars for a few grand. Even the slowest motorcycles are more fun than a fast car. I just wish our weather allowed me to ride year round (and still enjoy it)
I love these videos. I used to ride by dealerships looking at the vehicles like, “ There’s no way they’re selling all of those cars”
Cars are being made more cheaply yet their cost is still stupid high...
I am never buying a new car ever again as long as I live. I'm disgusted with the auto industry.
Same here. I haven't bought a new car or a new RV in many, many years, and I'm a happy, debt-free camper. Let someone else pay for the steep depreciation.
@@melaniedeare5427if my car falls apart I’m just gonna go get a foreign car, it would be cheaper then a dealer. Probably more efficient to
People want to look RICH but can hardly afford gas and insurance.
That is because most Americans have a spending problem.
@@kennixox262 all american company's have a greed problem. start there first.
it's all on credit and everyone is maxed out. can't squeeze blood out of a turnip. lowering prices and rates can only do so much to undo the damage of the last few years.
@@MFFL674 I'm not maxed out on my credit cards and pay them off in full monthly. Sounds like most have a spending problem.
I don't know why...restaurants are packed, so it the airport with vacay travel. Priorities????
What kills me is, my wife and I volunteer at the local foodbank and you'd be amazed at how many people drive thru the line in a $75k truck... These things need to come down 50% at least... the more people who get caught in this debt bomb the longer the lines are gonna be at the foodbank. Nobody needs a 50" flatscreen on their dashboard, especially on a truck! My 2005 f350 is doin just fine... Probably put another 20 years on her. King Ranch dually and I paid $10.5k used 6 years ago, I'm too afraid to even know what a new King Ranch would cost...
No one can afford a new vehicle, too much money goes into the pockets of salesman and dealerships etc, we are just trying to buy groceries.
It's literally the owners. The salesmen don't make jack. The owners of the dealerships are taking all the profit
.....THAT'S PLAN OF DEMOCRATS AS THEY WANT every common people TO USE *_ONLY PUBLIC TRANSPORT_*
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@@mindset220 well the F&I (aka f you and insure you) guys make bank
@@mindset220 That's complete BS 3% on a 100k car is far more then 3% on 50k for those salesmen.
@@mindset220 usury is not profit - it is still usury
Never bought a new car in my 68 years on this planet and I don't plan on it now. Those prices are insane.
wreckihg yard only
Problem is, the supply of _used_ cars is drying up, so we may actually get to the point where there's no other option.
Great insight and perspective, thanks for the video.
Get rid of all the useless and overly expensive technology that serve little purpose in many of the vehicles and bring the price down.
For real... Each seat doesn't need it's own climate control when they're 1ft from each other... You don't need one tv per back seat for your brainrot children... 19 cameras... Etc etc
Poor quality and high prices means death to the new vehicle market. Just about every manufacturer is building junk with tons of quality issues.
Nobody is trying to pay a mortgage for a new car. Go get that used, half price truck thats 3 years old and less than 30k miles and a percentage of the payment.
When you’ve got compact SUVs like the rav4 listing for 60k new, you know everything else is gonna be equally as absurd.
The big 3 can kick rocks
We don’t need fancy technology and luxury body styles that cost as much as a house we just need a car and truck that can take us from point a to b
American car companies really shot themselves in the foot when they decided to start charging European luxury car prices for mediocre American junk.
True
westphalian here - " european quality cars ? "_ 🤣
I live in a small town and it’s crazy to me how many car dealerships we have. They’re all full idk why we have so many.
I do too. We do legitimately have a lot of stupid people here that care too much about appearances and will buy new vehicles.
The cost of operating is probably cheaper. People from more populated areas will come out and buy there.
@@luketimmer6108 you still have plenty of dealerships inside big cities too. Maybe not metropolis like new york city or Chicago but still sizable cities have many dealerships too
Most people think having a choice from a selection in a market place is a good thing.
really ? i thought those are all parkinglots for export value markets...
...remind the deal of obama with 8000 tanks for russia, great britain sold 6000
the eu is screaming, and trying now to get their looted money into the ship market now... it is the year 2025 where old 2-stroke diesel went to the wreckyard. those car dealers all are NOT AMERICAN - EVEN NOT HUMAN MANKIND
Dealerships should not exist. Americans should be able to buy directly from the manufacturer
Learned my lesson 20 years ago, went to a broker, told him what i wanted, found my Tacoma, he offered to drive me a hundred miles to pick it up,saved several thousand dollars, got the truck for 4 thousand less then sticker price. No muss, no fuss, i never talked to a salesman or went to a dealership.
I'm ignorant af what's a broker? LMAO.
@@d2cuadrados510 they are like a middleman for the buyer and seller, pretty much you hire a broker to go look for what you want and they negotiate for lower prices and other important stuff for you.
"A broker is an intermediary who facilitates transactions between buyers and sellers, often for a commission. Brokers help negotiate terms, provide market information, and assist with paperwork. In finance, a stockbroker buys and sells stocks or other investments on behalf of clients, and many online brokers now offer commission-free trades" - From google
@@d2cuadrados510they work on Wall Street and deal in standards and acquisitions
Same here. Bought a 1996 silverado back in 2002 through a broker. I saved 5-7k from stealership prices. Still have it too. Since then, I've only ever bought used vehicles directly from the owners.
@d2cuadrados510 someone with a dealers license who doesn't have a car lot or keep an inventory. You tell him what you want and he buys it from the dealer auctions with a slight markup for his efforts. 22 uears ago i was going through a broker, his commission was only $200
Three months of wages from Ford in 1920 could buy you a brand new model T. 2024 it would take you about two years worth of wages to be able to afford a bronco thats engine might more than likely blow up and be out of warranty before you even pay it off. what’s becoming an even bigger issue is that people aren’t even able to pay these cars off before they die and have to roll over loan payment into a new car. The cost of the vehicle already being totally unaffordable and then you have to roll $20,000 of an old loan payment into a new loan payment at a higher interest rate lol
i remember dealers were asking for premium for used cars about 3 years ago
I bought an ebike.
0 insurance
0$ in gas
30$ tubes and tires every so often
15$ chain once a year
And now in decent shape. And I pass those savings to my door dasher when I need groceries delivered.
Cap*
*Last part
not to mention the hospital bill when you get hit with 0 safety
buddy you realize most people don't bike friendly cities? specially americans which this comment secrion is obviously filled with
@bow-89you can’t just run over someone for riding a bike laws are still laws and even if they do that’s a paycheck if you survive
Though you can cover those for 200 yr. Good for theft.
I dunno i went to a dealership and they have no deals. ZERO. Everything is msrp + add one and some premium cars have 5k mark ups still to this day. mid Nov 2024
Same
Same at my Jeep dealership. They had spider webs on the wheel wells of some of their vehicles and had not been moved in weeks if not months in October. No discounts or sales.
That's because people are still buying them at that price.
Good Info...Thanks for posting
I'm still driving my Dad's 99 Ford 150 as he passed away 4 years ago. Truck doesn't even have 200,000 miles on it. I also have a 2007 Mercury Grand Marquis with about 169,000 miles. Nothing special and least I can get to work and I don't have any car payments.
cant ask for anything more my man.
I just paid my final car payment yesterday. Never getting a car from dealership ever again.
@@xchino0427 I got ripped off with my car. They told me the interest rate would be less than half of what was eventually on the paperwork when I ultimately went to sign. The guy seemed very surprised that I actually read it. I should have walked away but I really like the car (rugged & durable, plus ease of at-home maintenance/ repair) so I figured I'd pay it off early and it hopefully wouldn't be too big a deal; ended up paying $13k for a $10k car despite paying it off 2 years into what was supposed to be a 6 year payment plan.
You're right, nobody should ever buy from a dealer again. I sure won't. As they say, there's nothing better than driving a paid-off car to a paid-off home after the end of a work day
You've got two great vehicles that should last a very long time.
They got Geedy when cars weren't available, They tried to price that into their MSRP and it screwed them. In the Northeast these things will rust apart in 8 to 10 years, so not at those prices
And this is the same for the price of groceries and eggs but yet they blamed Biden. The President has no control over that and the little people got angry and now we will soon have Trump again. Does anyone thing that he will do anything about it? Nope! He will be playing golf, taking executive time, pooping his diapers and Tweeting or XXXing.
ukrainians love american luxury cars ... everyome has one here in germany
Unless you work construction and or need to tow shit you don’t need a truck. Simple as that. They are extremely overpriced. Most people will do just fine with a small SUV like a CRV if you want something that is a little higher off the ground for living in snowy areas or south Florida where a little more ride height keeps your car from flooding. Plus you get the gas mileage and lower insurance rates too. Same thing for people buying massive SUV. Unless you have 3+ kids you don’t need an Escalade with 7 Seats.
Too bad Saturn model didn't last. Manufacturer direct to consumer. Get rid of dealer markup and warehousing. Truck bloat and greed is all too pervasive. Let's see a $10-$15k base pickup model the size of the old Ford Rangers. Manual locks and windows, basic engine with AC and cut out 50% of the electronic modules, actuators, and sensor crap that goes bad after a few years and they'll never be able to keep them in stock. Most people just want solid, reliable, basic economical transportation. The people who have the need to buy for vanity and to show off can continue to buy all the high-end expensive stuff they want. I just want a cheap daily driver. ALSO - $4-$5 for gas with the same crappy mileage American cars have been getting for DECADES just adds insult to the injury.
I like the direct model, but Saturns were big POS.
@johnkruton9708 gm killed off the saturn line because the cars were built to last with proper maintenence. 20 year old car, same transmission, same engine, same everything from when it was new and the only payments made are registration, insurance, and gas.
Take all that useless crap out of a Car, Trucks keep all your LED screens and heated seats and heated steering wheels I don't need that s*** it's all garbage
@ms.annthrope415 oh shut up and go drink your latte,
The less there is in a car, the less can malfunction and break.
And a headache when anything electronic fails
Just more cheaply made 💩 to break
Base models depreciate less.
Please nobody buy a new car! The market needs to adjust hold out!
The other problem is That the Manufacturer's have all but stopped making cars and only want to make trucks and Suv and people to not have a choice anymore.
@@craigsmith3683 truer words have never been spoken. I've thought the same thing for quite some time now.
Totally agree, they price themselves out of the market !! Pathetic greed ! CEOs making millions, its an insult !
Vehicles are too expensive and _too big._ When people only want a big truck to feel safe driving near all the big trucks on US roads, we've got our priorities backwards.
Serves them right! Price gouging during COVID, lame excuses afterwards, and over-priced vehicles. No thank you. Waiting over a year for a Ford truck? Yeah, NO!!!
CoVIDeots ?
100k for a domestic...5yrs later resale 25k...imo
If you're lucky
It’d be worse on an Audi, BMW, Mercedes, or Jaguar.
Yep
As i always tell people, if you want to be convinced of what to buy, try a 12 year old toyota, drive the same as the brand new one, try a 12y old chev or ford (if they exists) and compare it to a new one. Toyota are built to last forever
A domestic made in another country.
this is what they deserve for refusing drivers the right to control the car market and deny manufacturers success on shitty cars
I had a Nissan salesman tell me he's never sold so many cars regardless of price. I just laughed and laughed.
This is what is happening with everything. Made out of the cheapest materials they can find while they raise the prices through the roof and is all being intentionally made to break. This is even happening with food packaging. For example removed the zipper seal from hot dogs but they raised the price 2 dollars.
I refuse to buy a new car.
Great job consumers.Dont buy these over priced pieces of junk.The prices will come down I guarantee it.❤❤❤❤❤
nice to see how dumb the discussion about mass value export markets is... they dont want to sell you - those are for export only my deer
I'm happy with my 08 Buick Lacrosse. The engine will outlive me and it's comfortable
I have a 2000 Chevy Express that will have to last me, it's nickel and diming to death but it still runs good, and it's turning into a rust bucket. Only 180k miles.
Does that have the 3.8 V6?
@@notoriousLSGshow It does. Very quiet engine.
How long does a new vehicle have to sit on a lot in the elements before it's no longer a new vehicle?
Its what I here all the time everywhere. Here in Europe even VW sedans such as passat cost above 55 000 euros! that is insane! And then you ask why they cost as much and you always get the same yadda yadda answer. And then when you try to put YOUR car a s a down payment, suddenly they value your car for wayy bellow average of what the online market is offering. So are they expensive for all the relevant reasons its just the greed?
I stopped buying new cars many years ago. It has been and will forever be a ripoff.
You have a completely CLOSED auto market. It takes a 20 year hold on any new imports and YOU STILL CANT SELL THE CARS
A lot of vehicles these days cost more than my first home!! Insane😂😂