Bought my truck back in 2020 and I had to strong arm them into putting in a liner for me after asking $1000 over msrp and giving me dirt for my trade. I can see why no one wants the dealership experience anymore.
Oh ya I see it now a 3500 with 6.6L with power reclining heated and cooled seats, and a TV in the back for my kids that is my need to have list for no more than $40k. And I want the dealer to throw in free mud guards and oil changes for life. And it has to be all blacked out. "Otherwise fix what I got"
It's one thing to pay a lot of money for a quality well-built vehicle...BUT...it's quite another to pay a lot of money for a troublesome rolling piece of junk! What the hell ever happened to quality?
@@thatwenchAnd they went on strike to get more money under the pretense that they can’t afford the cars they make. Good job, you’re contributing to rising costs that will price many of Americans out of the market, so we’ll see how long you keep your jobs. And many of them vote blue, the party responsible for strong arming the manufacturers into the disastrous EV market that most don’t want or can afford.
Every five or six years I buy three new pick up trucks for my business. Right after Covid my usual dealership wanted $330,000 so I walked out the door. They were trying to rip me off with a bunch of add-ons. I’m still angry about it. I take excellent pair of my vehicles and I have no reason to buy new. They can rot on the lot. The new vehicles are junk anyway.
I was going to buy a 2012 Boss 302, listed at 40k. Ok, fair enough. But when the salesman told me that there was a 20k “market adjustment “, I walked. That, in a nutshell, is what is wrong. Dealerships have become stealerships, so, yeah. Zero sympathy.
What’s amazing is how the price you see on the internet might be $57,000 but when they quote you the price it’s always $6-8k more. Dealer called me and asked “ did we miss anything “ I said yeah the price
I dunno i went to a dealership and they have no deals. ZERO. Everything is msrp + add one and some premium cars have 5k mark ups still to this day. mid Nov 2024
Same at my Jeep dealership. They had spider webs on the wheel wells of some of their vehicles and had not been moved in weeks if not months in October. No discounts or sales.
Was going to buy a new car, got 15k for a down payment, but it looks like ima save some more for a bigger down-payment. Drive my beater a little more till prices crash more.
They got Geedy when cars weren't available, They tried to price that into their MSRP and it screwed them. In the Northeast these things will rust apart in 8 to 10 years, so not at those prices
And this is the same for the price of groceries and eggs but yet they blamed Biden. The President has no control over that and the little people got angry and now we will soon have Trump again. Does anyone thing that he will do anything about it? Nope! He will be playing golf, taking executive time, pooping his diapers and Tweeting or XXXing.
Three months of wages from Ford in 1920 could buy you a brand new model T. 2024 it would take you about two years worth of wages to be able to afford a bronco thats engine might more than likely blow up and be out of warranty before you even pay it off. what’s becoming an even bigger issue is that people aren’t even able to pay these cars off before they die and have to roll over loan payment into a new car. The cost of the vehicle already being totally unaffordable and then you have to roll $20,000 of an old loan payment into a new loan payment at a higher interest rate lol
Too bad Saturn model didn't last. Manufacturer direct to consumer. Get rid of dealer markup and warehousing. Truck bloat and greed is all too pervasive. Let's see a $10-$15k base pickup model the size of the old Ford Rangers. Manual locks and windows, basic engine with AC and cut out 50% of the electronic modules, actuators, and sensor crap that goes bad after a few years and they'll never be able to keep them in stock. Most people just want solid, reliable, basic economical transportation. The people who have the need to buy for vanity and to show off can continue to buy all the high-end expensive stuff they want. I just want a cheap daily driver. ALSO - $4-$5 for gas with the same crappy mileage American cars have been getting for DECADES just adds insult to the injury.
Dealers were sticking it to buyers with big premiums for the privilege of buying their garbage. Now, that they can’t give them away they’re begging for buyers. But, they still won’t sell their crappy cars and trucks at a discount. $100k for a Bronco is insane.
I Hope All Or At Least Most American Consumers Will Hold On To Their Current Vehicles. These Manufacturers & Dealers Have Put It To The Consumers For TOO LONG. It's Time The Consumers Show These Businesses Who Has The Power. Be Wise Hold Onto Your Money.😊😊😊
I have a 2000 Chevy Express that will have to last me, it's nickel and diming to death but it still runs good, and it's turning into a rust bucket. Only 180k miles.
2002 GMC Envoy, 340k on the counter, SLT option package, going strong,. Straight 6, you would not believe how many offers I've had for it. The best grey man car ever, why buy new when you like what you got. BTW, my tool chest is taller than me, and I use them all.
My suv is 6 years old and my wifes is 4. I have 46,000 miles on mine and it is running strong. A few bugs here and there but not worth trading it in for.
Im still driving my 50 year old vehicles ! I refuse to pay the outrageous prices ! Loaded with all kinds of crap i don't want or need ! To hell with them.
If all the car dealers and OEMs would sell their cars at about 35% what there worth, they'd sell off the shelves and recoup all there money back. Greed is what's holding them back. Always the $$$$$.
Still no deals to be had in Central WI: Working with the local Nissan dealer on a 3-pedal Versa. They are over $21K without all the extra fluff. Too much and I am holding @ $17K out the door all-in cash. I continue to hear how awful the car world is: We shall see.
Last year in October at dealership I asked the price of a CLA 1st gen that was sitting outside and in my currency was 1,600,000 MZN, which is equivalent to a little over $25,000. Just a couple of months ago (which was almost a year later) I went there again and found the car exactly on the same spot exposed and rotting and I asked for the price again and they gave me the same price. As I'm typing this it's still sitting on that very same spot.
Part of the huge cost of these vehicles is the labor. You gotta remember the guy that screws in the light buld into the assembly makes 80-90k starting plus benefits. They just pass that along to you.
I am in the market for a New Truck, but I don't Need One. But at these Insane Prices and Crap Quality. Not a Chance. See You on the Street Corner with Your HELP Sign.
they milked the system to the edge with LOW QUALITY & INCREASED PRICING that when interest went up.they automatically outpriced their core market.& are left holding the bag with low quality unsellable junk. just think, these CEO's make 20 million a year for these dumbass decisions.THEY NEED REPLACED!!!
Im not sure why youd feature a shelby as the thumbnail for this video, as those are specifically collectable, and rather expensive trucks. Same with the hummer EV. Its specifically marketed as a high end luxury EV SUV/offroader. Not sure what you were expecting. Prices are definitely up, but at least be realistic about it
Buying a vehicle is a purchase, not an investment. If I am going to spend $130,000 it with be on real estate, which is an (long term) investment. Vehicles start depreciating the moment you accept ownership. So my advice is that if you need to replace your vehicle, figure out the minimum you need to serve your usage, then by a certified used vehicle that fits you need.
Have a 04 f150 would like a newer truck cant afford it prices payments over a grand a month insurance is more the way gas prices go up and down if you keep it and pay it off whats it worth
This is the end of dealerships. Manufacturers can fund and operate display lots and sales will be online, efficient and not fund the lifestyles of crooks with no service or value to the car buying process. Sweets to the Sweet
I was chatting with an honest salesman the other day, and he told me his truck has 200,000 on it but there’s no way in heck he’s gonna buy ANYTHING as it sits now.
Tuner cars (the Rausch F150, the Boss 302) and "specialty" models are always primed for markups; I think people would settle for a market-priced regular truck. The problem is financing is still way too easy, as proven by all the super high car payments, repo's, etc.. Dealers are handling out sub-prime high-interest loans to people with skinny paychecks just to get that interest payout, even for a few months, then repo the car and auction off ...
The trucks will sell. Even at 100k+. 45 year old Suburban dads who don't haul anything have to keep their appearance and show off their new grocery-getters.
Let’s wait to see what happens once the new tariffs take effect on cars, household goods, etc. Hopefully dealerships will make deals to move inventory and I just might get that Bronco that I would love to have.
Within days of making the last loan payment on my new car, the dealership was calling and texting to see if I want to trade in and by a new one. Thanks, I may see you 10 years from now.
At this point, all of these are luxury vehicles, even the work trucks. People don't have that kind of money. Dealerships are living in lala land or something. 😂
..Yup. Vehicles cost half as much as a big house, and are almost impossible to troubleshoot and repair by owners. Plus all the frivolous electronics and sensors make them buggy as hell, with dealer mechanic shops there to rip off the customers, while making excuses to not honor he warranty.
Dealerships were bought out in the 1990s because they couldn’t turn a profit. Plus, in the late 70s early 80s is when most unwanted births were sent out of this country, it has had a huge impact on our economy because normally growth always continues but in our case, it was cut off quite fast, thus is why consumerism seems to have been cut off and the oversupply of homes have caused many cities to fall into decline.
I’ve seen a $30,000 discount on ram trucks but wholesale prices have came down dramatically here recently that will take some time to hit retail But all the crap is still overpriced!
Dealers made ridiculous money for the time after Covid. Now it’s payback time. Charging way over MSRP during that time is now coming back to haunt them.
Yea, no. When your vehicles cost more than 1/3 of my house to more than that; they can rot. I'll NEVER pay anything close to that for a vehicle, new or otherwise. Especially since all the dealerships have been doing for decades is extorting us over those prices..... Let them rot, let them fail, I have ZERO sympathy for them or the manufactures.
DO NOT BUY A NEW CAR! LET THESE THINGS ROT AT THE PRICES THEY WANT FOR IT!
Right on.
All that cheap plastic should rot pretty fast. New cars are crap.
@@midcenturymodern9330 They will fall apart like a wet taco.
Yup. They've been ripping us off for decades!!
They tried to screw me over with 10k over the price so I just kept my old car but know they are calling me and sending me emails. No thanks I’m good
That extra $10K is enough for a second used car. 🚗🚙
Why you giving dealerships your email address, phone number even? When they marking up 10k(or at all)?
2008 Honda Fit just keeps on running! Shove that new overpriced sideways !
What goes around comes around so if I were you I would stick it to them, offer to buy $15,000 below MSRP.
We got a 2010 ford ranger xlt 4.0 with 126.000 milesfor 11500 be fore tax they wanted 13456 runs drill great
It's wild to see $80-100K trucks and no bed liner. Not even a cheap plastic one.
It's cause these truck aren't marketed at people who want to haul things with them.
it's wild to see $80-100k trucks in general
Bought my truck back in 2020 and I had to strong arm them into putting in a liner for me after asking $1000 over msrp and giving me dirt for my trade. I can see why no one wants the dealership experience anymore.
Yeap. They want more money and giving you less features.
Why would you need a bedliner for groceries or your kids baseballs shoes?
Bring them trucks down to $35 to $55k and we'll be back.
Otherwise fix what ya got-
Oh ya I see it now a 3500 with 6.6L with power reclining heated and cooled seats, and a TV in the back for my kids that is my need to have list for no more than $40k. And I want the dealer to throw in free mud guards and oil changes for life. And it has to be all blacked out. "Otherwise fix what I got"
When they cut prices AT LEAST IN HALF I might start looking
At the minimum
Nah never give in
I couldn’t afford that.
It's one thing to pay a lot of money for a quality well-built vehicle...BUT...it's quite another to pay a lot of money for a troublesome rolling piece of junk! What the hell ever happened to quality?
unions
@@thatwenchAnd they went on strike to get more money under the pretense that they can’t afford the cars they make. Good job, you’re contributing to rising costs that will price many of Americans out of the market, so we’ll see how long you keep your jobs. And many of them vote blue, the party responsible for strong arming the manufacturers into the disastrous EV market that most don’t want or can afford.
Once again, they did it to themselves.
100%
Dealerships did not cause inflation. The high price phenomenon affects every market, not just new cars
@@Ndw1995selling vehicles 5, 10, 15k over sticker doesn't cause inflation?
@@Ndw1995 No...they saw the opportunity to make more money and the took advantage of it. Dealers made record profits in the early 2020's
Every five or six years I buy three new pick up trucks for my business. Right after Covid my usual dealership wanted $330,000 so I walked out the door. They were trying to rip me off with a bunch of add-ons. I’m still angry about it. I take excellent pair of my vehicles and I have no reason to buy new. They can rot on the lot. The new vehicles are junk anyway.
Go through your fleet and make sure they are in tip top shape, wait another five years
@ I spent a lot of money on maintenance and keep my vehicles in perfect condition. It’s much cheaper to maintain a vehicle than buy a new one.
I’m from Australia so the tax law may be different, but can you run depreciation over 5 years on your business vehicles?
I was going to buy a 2012 Boss 302, listed at 40k. Ok, fair enough. But when the salesman told me that there was a 20k “market adjustment “, I walked. That, in a nutshell, is what is wrong. Dealerships have become stealerships, so, yeah. Zero sympathy.
What’s amazing is how the price you see on the internet might be $57,000 but when they quote you the price it’s always $6-8k more. Dealer called me and asked “ did we miss anything “ I said yeah the price
It’s all games. They do it in hopes of getting you in the dealership.
I dunno i went to a dealership and they have no deals. ZERO. Everything is msrp + add one and some premium cars have 5k mark ups still to this day. mid Nov 2024
Same
Same at my Jeep dealership. They had spider webs on the wheel wells of some of their vehicles and had not been moved in weeks if not months in October. No discounts or sales.
No new car is worth more than $20k period.
I have a Toyota Sienna 500,000 miles. Regular maintenance still going. It’s like the Energizer bunny of vehicles.
Because it's a Toyota, my dude. I have a 2018 RAV4 with 100,000. I've EASILY got years to go before it wears out
100k for a domestic...5yrs later resale 25k...imo
If you're lucky
It’d be worse on an Audi, BMW, Mercedes, or Jaguar.
Yep
Screw over your customers, you will pay later
Build the basic two or four wd vehicle. Anything beyond am radio and heater is a customer option
Was going to buy a new car, got 15k for a down payment, but it looks like ima save some more for a bigger down-payment. Drive my beater a little more till prices crash more.
I’ve been doing that for ten years now. I got to the point that I’m happier having a massive bank account then a new truck to drive to work.
They got Geedy when cars weren't available, They tried to price that into their MSRP and it screwed them. In the Northeast these things will rust apart in 8 to 10 years, so not at those prices
And this is the same for the price of groceries and eggs but yet they blamed Biden. The President has no control over that and the little people got angry and now we will soon have Trump again. Does anyone thing that he will do anything about it? Nope! He will be playing golf, taking executive time, pooping his diapers and Tweeting or XXXing.
It’s the norm, dealers mark down one or two vehicles to advertise. But once you show up everything is full price plus.
Too bad our income doesn’t keep up with inflation
Three months of wages from Ford in 1920 could buy you a brand new model T. 2024 it would take you about two years worth of wages to be able to afford a bronco thats engine might more than likely blow up and be out of warranty before you even pay it off. what’s becoming an even bigger issue is that people aren’t even able to pay these cars off before they die and have to roll over loan payment into a new car. The cost of the vehicle already being totally unaffordable and then you have to roll $20,000 of an old loan payment into a new loan payment at a higher interest rate lol
Too bad Saturn model didn't last. Manufacturer direct to consumer. Get rid of dealer markup and warehousing. Truck bloat and greed is all too pervasive. Let's see a $10-$15k base pickup model the size of the old Ford Rangers. Manual locks and windows, basic engine with AC and cut out 50% of the electronic modules, actuators, and sensor crap that goes bad after a few years and they'll never be able to keep them in stock. Most people just want solid, reliable, basic economical transportation. The people who have the need to buy for vanity and to show off can continue to buy all the high-end expensive stuff they want. I just want a cheap daily driver. ALSO - $4-$5 for gas with the same crappy mileage American cars have been getting for DECADES just adds insult to the injury.
Dealers were sticking it to buyers with big premiums for the privilege of buying their garbage. Now, that they can’t give them away they’re begging for buyers. But, they still won’t sell their crappy cars and trucks at a discount. $100k for a Bronco is insane.
Most of these vehicles shouldnt even be worth 50k-70k thats insane.
I Hope All Or At Least Most American Consumers Will Hold On To Their Current Vehicles. These Manufacturers & Dealers Have Put It To The Consumers For TOO LONG. It's Time The Consumers Show These Businesses Who Has The Power. Be Wise Hold Onto Your Money.😊😊😊
People want to look RICH but can hardly afford gas and insurance.
That is because most Americans have a spending problem.
I'm second gen Ford/UAW (retired) and told them for years that the factories need to own the dealers to eliminate the middleman & their gross markups!
*I'm happy with my 08 Buick Lacrosse. The engine will outlive me and it's comfortable*
I have a 2000 Chevy Express that will have to last me, it's nickel and diming to death but it still runs good, and it's turning into a rust bucket. Only 180k miles.
2002 GMC Envoy, 340k on the counter, SLT option package, going strong,. Straight 6, you would not believe how many offers I've had for it. The best grey man car ever, why buy new when you like what you got.
BTW, my tool chest is taller than me, and I use them all.
Home keeping my 2016 Buick Until the wheels fall off Dealerships get their head out of their butts
My dear ole dad who passed away 20 years ago, would always pay cash for a new car. If he saw the prices of vehicles today, he would be angry.
My suv is 6 years old and my wifes is 4. I have 46,000 miles on mine and it is running strong. A few bugs here and there but not worth trading it in for.
I had a Nissan salesman tell me he's never sold so many cars regardless of price. I just laughed and laughed.
They should start selling mansions to homeless people
Could this finally be the point to where the car market has had their fill of HUGE trucks? Does everyone really NEED a massive TRUCK? Probably not.
The price of vehicles are not going up. The value of the US dollar is going down. #Inflation
This is a clear sign of a recession, at least for the automotive industry.
Im still driving my 50 year old vehicles !
I refuse to pay the outrageous prices !
Loaded with all kinds of crap i don't want or need !
To hell with them.
Yep! My new resolve is to not even entertain buying a new car. Their turned to get ripped!
If all the car dealers and OEMs would sell their cars at about 35% what there worth, they'd sell off the shelves and recoup all there money back. Greed is what's holding them back. Always the $$$$$.
No sympathy with these greedy dealers as now the people hold the power 👍
Lots of businesses pay these prices because they can write it off.
Still no deals to be had in Central WI: Working with the local Nissan dealer on a 3-pedal Versa. They are over $21K without all the extra fluff. Too much and I am holding @ $17K out the door all-in cash.
I continue to hear how awful the car world is: We shall see.
WAY TO OVERPRICED SELLING FOR WHAT HOUSES USED TO SELL FOR
Last year in October at dealership I asked the price of a CLA 1st gen that was sitting outside and in my currency was 1,600,000 MZN, which is equivalent to a little over $25,000. Just a couple of months ago (which was almost a year later) I went there again and found the car exactly on the same spot exposed and rotting and I asked for the price again and they gave me the same price. As I'm typing this it's still sitting on that very same spot.
There's an ass for every seat and a seat for every ass. The cars will sell. They may sit. But idiots will buy them.
Part of the huge cost of these vehicles is the labor. You gotta remember the guy that screws in the light buld into the assembly makes 80-90k starting plus benefits. They just pass that along to you.
American car companies really shot themselves in the foot when they decided to start charging European luxury car prices for mediocre American junk.
A 100 yr old dealership in my area was forced to close because of what's going on.
I am in the market for a New Truck, but I don't Need One. But at these Insane Prices and Crap Quality. Not a Chance. See You on the Street Corner with Your HELP Sign.
they milked the system to the edge with LOW QUALITY & INCREASED PRICING that when interest went up.they automatically outpriced their core market.& are left holding the bag with low quality unsellable junk. just think, these CEO's make 20 million a year for these dumbass decisions.THEY NEED REPLACED!!!
Im not sure why youd feature a shelby as the thumbnail for this video, as those are specifically collectable, and rather expensive trucks.
Same with the hummer EV. Its specifically marketed as a high end luxury EV SUV/offroader. Not sure what you were expecting.
Prices are definitely up, but at least be realistic about it
To get you to click the video ???
@@jetx2599give buddy a pass bro 😂😂
It not just the dealership.
Forget a new vehicle. Fix what you have, and invest those payments in your future.
Buying a vehicle is a purchase, not an investment. If I am going to spend $130,000 it with be on real estate, which is an (long term) investment. Vehicles start depreciating the moment you accept ownership. So my advice is that if you need to replace your vehicle, figure out the minimum you need to serve your usage, then by a certified used vehicle that fits you need.
Have a 04 f150 would like a newer truck cant afford it prices payments over a grand a month insurance is more the way gas prices go up and down if you keep it and pay it off whats it worth
This is the end of dealerships. Manufacturers can fund and operate display lots and sales will be online, efficient and not fund the lifestyles of crooks with no service or value to the car buying process. Sweets to the Sweet
I was chatting with an honest salesman the other day, and he told me his truck has 200,000 on it but there’s no way in heck he’s gonna buy ANYTHING as it sits now.
Maybe make it actually affordable instead of trying to make it all about screwing the customers over🤦🏽♂️
Tuner cars (the Rausch F150, the Boss 302) and "specialty" models are always primed for markups; I think people would settle for a market-priced regular truck. The problem is financing is still way too easy, as proven by all the super high car payments, repo's, etc.. Dealers are handling out sub-prime high-interest loans to people with skinny paychecks just to get that interest payout, even for a few months, then repo the car and auction off ...
My daughter just bought a Ram Rebel for less than I paid for my 2022 Ram. I about fell over as her truck has everything mine doesn’t
The trucks will sell. Even at 100k+.
45 year old Suburban dads who don't haul anything have to keep their appearance and show off their new grocery-getters.
Not worth the price! Never have been!
the only way they will come down in price is if people stop buying.
What I used to see, when sales went down, the prices actually went up
I priced out a F-150 work truck (no options) just a V-8 4X4 and it came out to $48K!!
Time to do like the Amish and horse & buggy it.😜
They’ll be churning in their own stickers
Let’s wait to see what happens once the new tariffs take effect on cars, household goods, etc. Hopefully dealerships will make deals to move inventory and I just might get that Bronco that I would love to have.
At current new car prices they are more than the average person can afford
Within days of making the last loan payment on my new car, the dealership was calling and texting to see if I want to trade in and by a new one. Thanks, I may see you 10 years from now.
At this point, all of these are luxury vehicles, even the work trucks. People don't have that kind of money. Dealerships are living in lala land or something. 😂
..Yup. Vehicles cost half as much as a big house, and are almost impossible to troubleshoot and repair by owners. Plus all the frivolous electronics and sensors make them buggy as hell, with dealer mechanic shops there to rip off the customers, while making excuses to not honor he warranty.
When is the sweetest time to buy a vehicle and what month ?
Dealerships were bought out in the 1990s because they couldn’t turn a profit. Plus, in the late 70s early 80s is when most unwanted births were sent out of this country, it has had a huge impact on our economy because normally growth always continues but in our case, it was cut off quite fast, thus is why consumerism seems to have been cut off and the oversupply of homes have caused many cities to fall into decline.
They need to come down to reality with their prices. They took advantage for a little while. It's all coming back around now.
But no prices are going down. Every dealer I see want sticker on every car and truck. I’ve been hearing this bull crap for a year now.
I’ve seen a $30,000 discount on ram trucks but wholesale prices have came down dramatically here recently that will take some time to hit retail
But all the crap is still overpriced!
Low volume high profit. The battle cry of Ford and Chevy.
Good grief these pick ups are hideous no surprise the cant sell
I come here for the Stuck like Chuck references!
Poor quality and high prices means death to the new vehicle market. Just about every manufacturer is building junk with tons of quality issues.
My, how the tides have turned!
Dealers made ridiculous money for the time after Covid. Now it’s payback time. Charging way over MSRP during that time is now coming back to haunt them.
Does Canada still have the law where dealers cannot sell over msrp?
"Sometimes you gotta wreck tha truck to make tha truck payment"
That big Tacoma crew cab 4x4 will last about 50K miles with that Turbo 4
I'm looking for that brand new 2021-23 discounted by 50% that's just been sitting around as the 24 and 25s have been showing up. 😂
I would never buy a new car to much technology taking away privacy. No thanks
>prices are coming down
>shows a pickup for over 100 grand
I don’t understand why you people even consider buying a new car 🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
What do I think...I think they can keep them. Great video BTW.
Id love a new truck off the lot.. but f these prices
I am just a hard-working man,I just want a truck.If I had wanted a Cadillac, I would have purchased one😮
Stop with all this technology crap.
Folks was good, well made transportation.
They deserve to be broke. Charging way too much.
Yea, no. When your vehicles cost more than 1/3 of my house to more than that; they can rot. I'll NEVER pay anything close to that for a vehicle, new or otherwise. Especially since all the dealerships have been doing for decades is extorting us over those prices.....
Let them rot, let them fail, I have ZERO sympathy for them or the manufactures.
Justice at last
Keep em. The dealers will eventually run out of people to spend 80k for vehicles.
Overpricing is going to kill greedy dealers
Bought new PU in 2000 under 20k.non are worth more than that.
How do you know dealerships are declining cars?