And they were much smaller. Today peoples buy f-150 all over the place. At that time, pick up were more on the size of a Maverick. But hey, you'll be suprise how many peoples think that when you buy bigger, only the monthly payment increase... And you are right, they were mainly for peoples that really need one... Peoples do whatever they want with their money. It just make me laugh whe they buy big vehicle and then play it victim...
I payed 83k for mine, now it's worth 800k , I did double the size of it, but did it myself , except for the rough plumbing under the slab . I can't afford to buy my own house. 2025 is going to hit the fan
Seems to me America is doing great financially... It's just the actual Americans that are hurting. Now ask yourself: "Where does all that money actually go? Up, it goes upwards, not downwards. It always does. Could that have something to do with the wealthiest people in the country being determined to rig the system in their favour by financing "pro-business" political candidates who will crawl over broken glass to prevent change?
@@graydanerasmussen4071 Americans have been financing their "lifestyle" for decades. MASSIVE credit card debt and wages stagnant to keep it that way. Plus, they overspend on things that aren't necessities.
@@chashue6032Bull keep voting democrat putting brain dead biden in office. Blame every bit of it on bidens and the lefts war on oil. Soon Big Don will turn this 💩 around
Bought my truck back in 2020 and I had to strong arm them into putting in a liner for me after asking $1000 over msrp and giving me dirt for my trade. I can see why no one wants the dealership experience anymore.
I was going to buy a 2012 Boss 302, listed at 40k. Ok, fair enough. But when the salesman told me that there was a 20k “market adjustment “, I walked. That, in a nutshell, is what is wrong. Dealerships have become stealerships, so, yeah. Zero sympathy.
Im still driving my 50 year old vehicles ! I refuse to pay the outrageous prices ! Loaded with all kinds of crap i don't want or need ! To hell with them.
My truck is 25 years old . Would love to have a new pick up but they are just too expensive. I seen a 2020 GMC loaded it had sticker at 44 thousand and it had 125 thousand miles . 60 more miles then my old truck 🤦
Stelantis can't figure out why no one is buying Jeeps anymore and they've reacted very negatively to their dealers who have plainly told them that the insane mark-ups are the reason why no one buys their vehicles.
Oh ya I see it now a 3500 with 6.6L with power reclining heated and cooled seats, and a TV in the back for my kids that is my need to have list for no more than $40k. And I want the dealer to throw in free mud guards and oil changes for life. And it has to be all blacked out. "Otherwise fix what I got"
New cars are no good. They are too complicated. You cannot repair them when they break. They cost too much. Insurance is out of hand. Tags are too expensive. Any car built after the 1980s are no good. There are too many computers. The fobs die, leaving you stranded. You can't get the motor out without removing the body. I wish I could buy a compact pickup but they do not exist, just monster trucks. I don't want something the size of a city bus.
Look at Ford, "We are going to start making the Ranger again!" I was so excited, what did they do? The made a new truck about the 7/8 the size of the F-150. Car manufacturers lobbied the government to make laws so that they could not build small trucks, something to do with wheel base and fuel economy.
Earlier this year, I went to test drive a new car. At the end of the test drive, the sales manager told me the price was $4,000 over sticker and this was a deal because a few months before, he was getting $7,000 over sticker. I left and kept my 13 year old car.
Every five or six years I buy three new pick up trucks for my business. Right after Covid my usual dealership wanted $330,000 so I walked out the door. They were trying to rip me off with a bunch of add-ons. I’m still angry about it. I take excellent pair of my vehicles and I have no reason to buy new. They can rot on the lot. The new vehicles are junk anyway.
It's one thing to pay a lot of money for a quality well-built vehicle...BUT...it's quite another to pay a lot of money for a troublesome rolling piece of junk! What the hell ever happened to quality?
@@thatwenchAnd they went on strike to get more money under the pretense that they can’t afford the cars they make. Good job, you’re contributing to rising costs that will price many of Americans out of the market, so we’ll see how long you keep your jobs. And many of them vote blue, the party responsible for strong arming the manufacturers into the disastrous EV market that most don’t want or can afford.
@@thatwenchKia has unions? Because my used on has been a worthless POS for a while now. Company and dealership are definitely not trying to make it right. 😡
Dealers were sticking it to buyers with big premiums for the privilege of buying their garbage. Now, that they can’t give them away they’re begging for buyers. But, they still won’t sell their crappy cars and trucks at a discount. $100k for a Bronco is insane.
I don’t give two shits about these crooked ass dealerships crying that no one is buying cars. These leeches did it to themselves. “Market adjustment” at 40K for a car ? Man GTFOH, I bought a used Volvo instead and never looked back. I’ll NEVER buy a new car or truck again, they’ve just gotten way too expensive.
What’s amazing is how the price you see on the internet might be $57,000 but when they quote you the price it’s always $6-8k more. Dealer called me and asked “ did we miss anything “ I said yeah the price
It's their cut. Sales people get a cut of every sale so the more money they get you to spend the bigger their cut. Trouble is, no one regulates what basically is a legal scam so they jackp up the prices out of greed and now they ended up shooting themselves on the foot by not only not getting their cuts, but also not making their quotas
Take all that useless crap out of a Car, Trucks keep all your LED screens and heated seats and heated steering wheels I don't need that s*** it's all garbage
Too bad Saturn model didn't last. Manufacturer direct to consumer. Get rid of dealer markup and warehousing. Truck bloat and greed is all too pervasive. Let's see a $10-$15k base pickup model the size of the old Ford Rangers. Manual locks and windows, basic engine with AC and cut out 50% of the electronic modules, actuators, and sensor crap that goes bad after a few years and they'll never be able to keep them in stock. Most people just want solid, reliable, basic economical transportation. The people who have the need to buy for vanity and to show off can continue to buy all the high-end expensive stuff they want. I just want a cheap daily driver. ALSO - $4-$5 for gas with the same crappy mileage American cars have been getting for DECADES just adds insult to the injury.
its the fact lobbyists pay to ban vehicles from asian countries, that new toyota hilux champ for $12k is banned you could honestly build your own vehicle for half the price they want
@@londomolari5715 For that Hilux Champ yes, it's not fuel efficient. But generally blaming CAFE standards for upsizing is just propaganda. Plenty of small and normal cars around the world meet those standards. You can get better quality too. But US manufactures bribed politicans to protect their market, and to get loopholes and weaker standards for trucks and big cars, and then they started to go boohoo over the normal standards.
it's all on credit and everyone is maxed out. can't squeeze blood out of a turnip. lowering prices and rates can only do so much to undo the damage of the last few years.
I've been in the market for a new car for the last four months. No prices are coming down and they're not budging even on the end of year cars. Lower prices is a dream.
I dunno i went to a dealership and they have no deals. ZERO. Everything is msrp + add one and some premium cars have 5k mark ups still to this day. mid Nov 2024
Same at my Jeep dealership. They had spider webs on the wheel wells of some of their vehicles and had not been moved in weeks if not months in October. No discounts or sales.
I Hope All Or At Least Most American Consumers Will Hold On To Their Current Vehicles. These Manufacturers & Dealers Have Put It To The Consumers For TOO LONG. It's Time The Consumers Show These Businesses Who Has The Power. Be Wise Hold Onto Your Money.😊😊😊
They got Geedy when cars weren't available, They tried to price that into their MSRP and it screwed them. In the Northeast these things will rust apart in 8 to 10 years, so not at those prices
And this is the same for the price of groceries and eggs but yet they blamed Biden. The President has no control over that and the little people got angry and now we will soon have Trump again. Does anyone thing that he will do anything about it? Nope! He will be playing golf, taking executive time, pooping his diapers and Tweeting or XXXing.
The other problem is That the Manufacturer's have all but stopped making cars and only want to make trucks and Suv and people to not have a choice anymore.
Three months of wages from Ford in 1920 could buy you a brand new model T. 2024 it would take you about two years worth of wages to be able to afford a bronco thats engine might more than likely blow up and be out of warranty before you even pay it off. what’s becoming an even bigger issue is that people aren’t even able to pay these cars off before they die and have to roll over loan payment into a new car. The cost of the vehicle already being totally unaffordable and then you have to roll $20,000 of an old loan payment into a new loan payment at a higher interest rate lol
I have a 2000 Chevy Express that will have to last me, it's nickel and diming to death but it still runs good, and it's turning into a rust bucket. Only 180k miles.
Even worse is that these new cars aren’t built to last like older cars and they are so advanced with computers that you can’t even work on them anymore to save money. 💰
As i always tell people, if you want to be convinced of what to buy, try a 12 year old toyota, drive the same as the brand new one, try a 12y old chev or ford (if they exists) and compare it to a new one. Toyota are built to last forever
The real reason for the bad sales is you can’t expect a person making $15- $20 dollars an hour to pay for a vehicle that cost $60- $100 dollars an hour to build. Between the manufacturer, the unions and the dealerships adding their mark-ups (sometimes 21%) places the cost outside of most average workers. I noticed that one of the trucks shown cost over $106,000 dollars, that’s more than my first house cost…and that was a 30 year mortgage rate. The other problem is once prices increase, (except for gasoline) the cost never ever gets reduced. The current policy - “Charge what ever the market will bear”…yeah, you’ll always find somebody with more money that sense to pay that high amount for a vehicle.
Automakers and dealers have now priced themselves out of the market. New cars ROTTING on factory and dealer lots sometimes for a year or more, is PROOF.
Was going to buy a new car, got 15k for a down payment, but it looks like ima save some more for a bigger down-payment. Drive my beater a little more till prices crash more.
Drive your beater. You can drive it till the wheels fall off and use your down payment money to put them back on 5 times over. I met a guy who was thinking of buying a new car. Instead he redid suspension, tinted windows, fancy radio and a professional detail on his old car. It drove like new, looked great and he saved a TON of money. He set that money aside for any other mechanical stuff that might come up. You earn interest instead of paying interest on a new car that way
Got a 96 Chevy K1500 with 225k. Every time I think I'm getting tired of fixing this old truck all I have to do is check out new & used truck prices. .."dad sigh".. guess I'll keep this old girl for a few more years....:)
Serves them right! Price gouging during COVID, lame excuses afterwards, and over-priced vehicles. No thank you. Waiting over a year for a Ford truck? Yeah, NO!!!
Dude my brothers childhood friend had one of those that year passed down from his dad , a Fn tank had almost 400k on it , but it rusted out being in NYS
This is why my wife's inherited 84 c10 was pulled from country by me and I help her fix and take care of it. Along with my 71 delta 88 convertible, and her 17 jeep patriot. All 3 crank up, run and are paid off. Only car note is 2020 gladiator, but we work from home. Feels great to have 4 vehicles run and 3 paid off in your yard. Let it rot. 😅
This is what is happening with everything. Made out of the cheapest materials they can find while they raise the prices through the roof and is all being intentionally made to break. This is even happening with food packaging. For example removed the zipper seal from hot dogs but they raised the price 2 dollars.
My 2005 4 Runner was bought for ~13k about 6 years ago with about 110k miles, and it still runs like a champ. No plans whatsoever to get rid of it anytime soon.
I'm 64, when I was a kid dealers only had one of each model on at the dealership. If you didn't want the one there you would order the color and options, you wanted. Then in the late 70's these massive dealers started popping up. 2 to 4 or more, of ever car and truck in every color. These giant dealers brought their own hardships on themselves. Also the prices today are crazy. Nobody buys vehicles anymore. The lease them for 1/3 the cost on the monthly payment. After the lease. The dealer tries selling the vehicle for a couple thousand less than the cost of a new one.
How is the union to blame? It's the CEOs that put profits before quality. And they bribed politicians to protect the US market from superior foreign brands.
My uncle has a sienna with 750km on it. He went on a business trip with a colleague who has a 2yr old gm, he could not believe it that the sienna was more solid than hi gm lol
I remember back in the day when you can order factory direct the exact car you wanted. You can get four wheel locking lug four-wheel drive or whatever little options you wanted now you have to go through the dealer you have to get the cookie cutter car and you have to go to some custom shop if you want to get some minor little difference other than the color.
Car prices are insane anymore. I could go out and finance a moderate size home for the price of some if these new cars nowadays. The only way prices are going to come down is for people to stop paying the absurd prices. Also never buy new it's a scam a used vehicle that is 1-2 years old with a few thousand miles on it is much cheaper in the long run and works just as well as a new one most of the stime still being under warranty as well. I have never bought a new vehicle in my life always pre-owned and have saved a bunch of money over the years.
Half the stuff in those things you don’t even need. I don’t even want a vehicle with Onstar equipped. Don’t even get me started on the parts and service.
My last purchased vehicle is a 2002 Chevrolet Venture. Spent 2,900. I've owned it for three year's. Paid cash. Runs just fine. Most I have paid for a vehicle about 6 grand. If I need to travel distance I will rent. No 5,6,7 hundred car payments for me, for a depreciated product.
You can buy a nice little condo for the price of these pieces of junk. Who the hell wants to spend $100k on a headache? My parents bought a really nice 2024 Honda CRV, and last week, they had to take it in because of a recall. They were sitting at the dealership for almost 7 hours waiting for the work to get done.
I'm keeping my 1995 F350 Powerstroke thank you very much. It's worth more now than what I paid for it. Every time I take it in for service the mechanics want to buy it.
I hope that pricing isn't the sole reason consumers are not buying, I for one am not interested in all the 4cyl push into full size vehicles that have no business using a 4cyl. I don't care if it's boosted with 50 turbochargers, I don't care if the torque is higher than it's V8 or V6 equivalent, it can't tow as much, it's going to be riddled with problems because news flash, 4cyl vehicles in full size models consume more fuel and have a higher maintenance cost. Minimum V6 turbo is fine but these idiots who are being cheap throwing these crappy 4cyl motors into everything are ruining what made their vehicles great.
4 years ago I bought a used Hummer H3 for 10k, had 130k miles on it. Got told I did a bad deal and all. I worked on it, fixed it up as much as I could afford, and to this day it's driving and needing repairs here and there. I look at today's prices and I guess I'll have to keep fixing her up, cause 90k for a truck is a no-go.
I’ve got 2008 Silverado 5.3L which still runs like a champ. Just changed the brakes and tyres so good for few more years. I have no intention of replacing it anytime soon.
2002 GMC Envoy, 340k on the counter, SLT option package, going strong,. Straight 6, you would not believe how many offers I've had for it. The best grey man car ever, why buy new when you like what you got. BTW, my tool chest is taller than me, and I use them all.
If all the car dealers and OEMs would sell their cars at about 35% what there worth, they'd sell off the shelves and recoup all there money back. Greed is what's holding them back. Always the $$$$$.
It took me more than a year to find my 2015, reg cab, shorty Ram, and it was a fluke. Now, 3 1/2 years after I bought it, the dealer still wants me to sell it for what I paid, just to spend $90k on a small semi truck with a tablet on the dash. no thanks.
I had a 2008 Taurus that I loved so much. Made it to 2022 but developed an electrical problem and no one could fix it. Had it to 3 shops, one kept it for 2 months, still no clue. Mechanics are not what they used to be either.
Remember when trucks were affordable and for working people?
And they were much smaller. Today peoples buy f-150 all over the place. At that time, pick up were more on the size of a Maverick. But hey, you'll be suprise how many peoples think that when you buy bigger, only the monthly payment increase...
And you are right, they were mainly for peoples that really need one...
Peoples do whatever they want with their money. It just make me laugh whe they buy big vehicle and then play it victim...
Remember when those trucks had vinyl seats, three on the column and roll up windows?
@@chashue6032 Hell yeah. Good times
Trucks were also built for working people
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
100K for a damn truck?? Does it make coffee, drive itself, and do your work for you? Insanity.
No, but there are 8 cup holders
Yes, but they have 6 way tailgates ( :
It better rub my back and feet on the way home.
100,000 is not enough money for a truck I think they should add 15,000 more dollars to that figure. No one’s gonna buy it anyways.
For that $$$, it better make wives obsolete!! 😂
DO NOT BUY A NEW CAR! LET THESE THINGS ROT AT THE PRICES THEY WANT FOR IT!
Right on.
All that cheap plastic should rot pretty fast. New cars are crap.
@@midcenturymodern9330 They will fall apart like a wet taco.
Yup. They've been ripping us off for decades!!
@@DBAllen 🤣
$130K for a regular truck? I bought my house for that much in 2017. Ridiculous.
lol. Bought my first house for 100k. A “fixer upper.” Well, I fixed it up and sold it for a real house. Easy Peasy.
@@tekay44 dang how'd you do that
I payed 83k for mine, now it's worth 800k , I did double the size of it, but did it myself , except for the rough plumbing under the slab . I can't afford to buy my own house. 2025 is going to hit the fan
Most of these vehicles shouldnt even be worth 50k-70k thats insane.
Most of them are not worth $20,000.00
Too bad our income doesn’t keep up with inflation
What inflation 😮😮 it's gaugation period ,call it what it is ,greed on every American good
Bernie tried -- long before that I put it on Reagan and his war on the working class, especially organized bargaining.
Seems to me America is doing great financially... It's just the actual Americans that are hurting. Now ask yourself: "Where does all that money actually go? Up, it goes upwards, not downwards. It always does. Could that have something to do with the wealthiest people in the country being determined to rig the system in their favour by financing "pro-business" political candidates who will crawl over broken glass to prevent change?
@@graydanerasmussen4071 Americans have been financing their "lifestyle" for decades. MASSIVE credit card debt and wages stagnant to keep it that way. Plus, they overspend on things that aren't necessities.
@@chashue6032Bull keep voting democrat putting brain dead biden in office. Blame every bit of it on bidens and the lefts war on oil. Soon Big Don will turn this 💩 around
They tried to screw me over with 10k over the price so I just kept my old car but know they are calling me and sending me emails. No thanks I’m good
That extra $10K is enough for a second used car. 🚗🚙
Why you giving dealerships your email address, phone number even? When they marking up 10k(or at all)?
2008 Honda Fit just keeps on running! Shove that new overpriced sideways !
What goes around comes around so if I were you I would stick it to them, offer to buy $15,000 below MSRP.
We got a 2010 ford ranger xlt 4.0 with 126.000 milesfor 11500 be fore tax they wanted 13456 runs drill great
Once again, they did it to themselves.
100%
Dealerships did not cause inflation. The high price phenomenon affects every market, not just new cars
@@BagBreakerMMAselling vehicles 5, 10, 15k over sticker doesn't cause inflation?
@@BagBreakerMMA No...they saw the opportunity to make more money and the took advantage of it. Dealers made record profits in the early 2020's
@@turnneIt's about to come to a screeching halt now. People are sick and tired of getting "screwed over,".
It's wild to see $80-100K trucks and no bed liner. Not even a cheap plastic one.
It's cause these truck aren't marketed at people who want to haul things with them.
it's wild to see $80-100k trucks in general
Bought my truck back in 2020 and I had to strong arm them into putting in a liner for me after asking $1000 over msrp and giving me dirt for my trade. I can see why no one wants the dealership experience anymore.
Yeap. They want more money and giving you less features.
@@donkarnage2568 That's true - Just pickup versions of the old H2 Hummers built to show off your wealth.
I was going to buy a 2012 Boss 302, listed at 40k. Ok, fair enough. But when the salesman told me that there was a 20k “market adjustment “, I walked. That, in a nutshell, is what is wrong. Dealerships have become stealerships, so, yeah. Zero sympathy.
I would have pointed my finger to my ass and told him "Here's my market adjustment " and walk out.
@@lensalvo6105 terrible. Greed
Stealerships have NEVER been on your side. They just can't hide it anymore.
Same here. Scum business practices at the dealer.
@@lensalvo6105 thieves
Hopefully this time when manufacturers go bankrupt, they wont get bailed out again with our tax dollars.
They will smh
That is actually the biggest part of this problem. Our Gov is protecting corporate greed from any consequence.
No sympathy with these greedy dealers as now the people hold the power 👍
Trumps still a felon though.
Im still driving my 50 year old vehicles !
I refuse to pay the outrageous prices !
Loaded with all kinds of crap i don't want or need !
To hell with them.
All kinds of crap is right. Start with power windows.
Cheaper to fix than buy new one!!!! If Cuba can do it so can we!!
@@TimothyHandl power windows don't work in water, but the hand cranked ones DO. Good luck finding those, however.
@@daredevil1956 Cuba doesn't have the EPA, and I wonder what's undere the hood of those classic vehicles?
My truck is 25 years old . Would love to have a new pick up but they are just too expensive. I seen a 2020 GMC loaded it had sticker at 44 thousand and it had 125 thousand miles . 60 more miles then my old truck 🤦
And the manufacturer CEO's are upset at us buyers for being too poor to afford their overpriced big trucks.
maybe they should have a meeting with the CEO of United Healthcare. oh wait....
@robertravena
No, I think you've got an idea, there. Never said they had to meet on this plane of existence.
Yeah…cry me some crocodile tears eh
Screw over your customers, you will pay later
Amen
Stelantis can't figure out why no one is buying Jeeps anymore and they've reacted very negatively to their dealers who have plainly told them that the insane mark-ups are the reason why no one buys their vehicles.
No new car is worth more than $20k period.
@ms.annthrope415 I guess you've never heard of mark-up value. Car dealerships have some of the highest mark-ups of any industry.
I cant spend over 25k for any vehicle. These prices are straight BS
@lukedaron8838 totally. Markup is markup, in reality these cars aren't really worth said markup price. 20k for sure
Wish I could like this 1000x, you are spot on!!!!!
Spot on!
Bring them trucks down to $35 to $55k and we'll be back.
Otherwise fix what ya got-
Oh ya I see it now a 3500 with 6.6L with power reclining heated and cooled seats, and a TV in the back for my kids that is my need to have list for no more than $40k. And I want the dealer to throw in free mud guards and oil changes for life. And it has to be all blacked out. "Otherwise fix what I got"
@@kelviskelvis7140 I hear ya, I drive a 2007 cobalt and I just keep fixing it. great little easy to work on car
No that's still over priced!
That 55k also needs to be at least a full ton truck with all the bells and whistles
$55k after financing ,TVT, taxes, misc fees you'll end up $85k out.
the only way they will come down in price is if people stop buying.
What I used to see, when sales went down, the prices actually went up
New cars are no good. They are too complicated. You cannot repair them when they break. They cost too much. Insurance is out of hand. Tags are too expensive. Any car built after the 1980s are no good. There are too many computers. The fobs die, leaving you stranded. You can't get the motor out without removing the body. I wish I could buy a compact pickup but they do not exist, just monster trucks. I don't want something the size of a city bus.
If we could do away with the private import ban, there are lots of countries that have small trucks like what you're talking about.
1980s is a whack number but I getcha, and they would just charge you unfair prices if you were buying a small truck too 🤷♀️
Look at Ford, "We are going to start making the Ranger again!" I was so excited, what did they do? The made a new truck about the 7/8 the size of the F-150. Car manufacturers lobbied the government to make laws so that they could not build small trucks, something to do with wheel base and fuel economy.
You mean 90s because anything pre fuel injection is trash
When they cut prices AT LEAST IN HALF I might start looking
At the minimum
I couldn’t afford that.
140k /2 is 70k. No Fuxxing way! 40k tops
And insurance will still be high and you need to start saving for costly repairs after the warranty expires.
And the yearly taxes on a new car are outrageous.
Earlier this year, I went to test drive a new car. At the end of the test drive, the sales manager told me the price was $4,000 over sticker and this was a deal because a few months before, he was getting $7,000 over sticker. I left and kept my 13 year old car.
A couple years ago it was normal to walk if they even tried to charge sticker.
They should start selling mansions to homeless people
Every five or six years I buy three new pick up trucks for my business. Right after Covid my usual dealership wanted $330,000 so I walked out the door. They were trying to rip me off with a bunch of add-ons. I’m still angry about it. I take excellent pair of my vehicles and I have no reason to buy new. They can rot on the lot. The new vehicles are junk anyway.
Go through your fleet and make sure they are in tip top shape, wait another five years
@ I spent a lot of money on maintenance and keep my vehicles in perfect condition. It’s much cheaper to maintain a vehicle than buy a new one.
I’m from Australia so the tax law may be different, but can you run depreciation over 5 years on your business vehicles?
I saw a commercial the other day, promising $15.000 off! That only means they were that much over priced before.
It's one thing to pay a lot of money for a quality well-built vehicle...BUT...it's quite another to pay a lot of money for a troublesome rolling piece of junk! What the hell ever happened to quality?
unions
@@thatwenchAnd they went on strike to get more money under the pretense that they can’t afford the cars they make. Good job, you’re contributing to rising costs that will price many of Americans out of the market, so we’ll see how long you keep your jobs. And many of them vote blue, the party responsible for strong arming the manufacturers into the disastrous EV market that most don’t want or can afford.
@@thatwenchKia has unions? Because my used on has been a worthless POS for a while now. Company and dealership are definitely not trying to make it right. 😡
Capitalism.... that's what.
@@thatwench Bullsh*t.
Dealers were sticking it to buyers with big premiums for the privilege of buying their garbage. Now, that they can’t give them away they’re begging for buyers. But, they still won’t sell their crappy cars and trucks at a discount. $100k for a Bronco is insane.
$100k for a Bronco? Does it come with O.J Simpson's corpse? 😆
I don’t give two shits about these crooked ass dealerships crying that no one is buying cars.
These leeches did it to themselves.
“Market adjustment” at 40K for a car ? Man GTFOH, I bought a used Volvo instead and never looked back.
I’ll NEVER buy a new car or truck again, they’ve just gotten way too expensive.
I'm second gen Ford/UAW (retired) and told them for years that the factories need to own the dealers to eliminate the middleman & their gross markups!
No excuses now
@@unionrdr yes a good idea. Buy greed goes down the line
What stopped you from opening up your own factory and selling directly to the public?
What’s amazing is how the price you see on the internet might be $57,000 but when they quote you the price it’s always $6-8k more. Dealer called me and asked “ did we miss anything “ I said yeah the price
It’s all games. They do it in hopes of getting you in the dealership.
It's their cut. Sales people get a cut of every sale so the more money they get you to spend the bigger their cut. Trouble is, no one regulates what basically is a legal scam so they jackp up the prices out of greed and now they ended up shooting themselves on the foot by not only not getting their cuts, but also not making their quotas
Take all that useless crap out of a Car, Trucks keep all your LED screens and heated seats and heated steering wheels I don't need that s*** it's all garbage
@ms.annthrope415 oh shut up and go drink your latte,
The less there is in a car, the less can malfunction and break.
And a headache when anything electronic fails
Just more cheaply made 💩 to break
Base models depreciate less.
Too bad Saturn model didn't last. Manufacturer direct to consumer. Get rid of dealer markup and warehousing. Truck bloat and greed is all too pervasive. Let's see a $10-$15k base pickup model the size of the old Ford Rangers. Manual locks and windows, basic engine with AC and cut out 50% of the electronic modules, actuators, and sensor crap that goes bad after a few years and they'll never be able to keep them in stock. Most people just want solid, reliable, basic economical transportation. The people who have the need to buy for vanity and to show off can continue to buy all the high-end expensive stuff they want. I just want a cheap daily driver. ALSO - $4-$5 for gas with the same crappy mileage American cars have been getting for DECADES just adds insult to the injury.
price needs to come down like 90%
its the fact lobbyists pay to ban vehicles from asian countries, that new toyota hilux champ for $12k is banned
you could honestly build your own vehicle for half the price they want
If they had these trucks they would sell faster than Flash Gordon
The problem is all of the CAFE and safety regulations.
@@londomolari5715 For that Hilux Champ yes, it's not fuel efficient. But generally blaming CAFE standards for upsizing is just propaganda. Plenty of small and normal cars around the world meet those standards. You can get better quality too. But US manufactures bribed politicans to protect their market, and to get loopholes and weaker standards for trucks and big cars, and then they started to go boohoo over the normal standards.
Never understood why they don’t let people buy direct from manufacturers. It would be better for everyone except the dealer
People want to look RICH but can hardly afford gas and insurance.
That is because most Americans have a spending problem.
@@kennixox262 all american company's have a greed problem. start there first.
it's all on credit and everyone is maxed out. can't squeeze blood out of a turnip. lowering prices and rates can only do so much to undo the damage of the last few years.
@@MFFL674 I'm not maxed out on my credit cards and pay them off in full monthly. Sounds like most have a spending problem.
I don't know why...restaurants are packed, so it the airport with vacay travel. Priorities????
I've been in the market for a new car for the last four months. No prices are coming down and they're not budging even on the end of year cars. Lower prices is a dream.
I dunno i went to a dealership and they have no deals. ZERO. Everything is msrp + add one and some premium cars have 5k mark ups still to this day. mid Nov 2024
Same
Same at my Jeep dealership. They had spider webs on the wheel wells of some of their vehicles and had not been moved in weeks if not months in October. No discounts or sales.
That's because people are still buying them at that price.
I am never buying a new car ever again as long as I live. I'm disgusted with the auto industry.
When you’ve got compact SUVs like the rav4 listing for 60k new, you know everything else is gonna be equally as absurd.
Poor quality and high prices means death to the new vehicle market. Just about every manufacturer is building junk with tons of quality issues.
I Hope All Or At Least Most American Consumers Will Hold On To Their Current Vehicles. These Manufacturers & Dealers Have Put It To The Consumers For TOO LONG. It's Time The Consumers Show These Businesses Who Has The Power. Be Wise Hold Onto Your Money.😊😊😊
I drive a 1999 Honda CRV that has 120K miles and no dents. Perfect inside and out and not going to get a new vehicle until this one rots.
Hopefully the greedy sobs don't jack up replacement parts
They got Geedy when cars weren't available, They tried to price that into their MSRP and it screwed them. In the Northeast these things will rust apart in 8 to 10 years, so not at those prices
And this is the same for the price of groceries and eggs but yet they blamed Biden. The President has no control over that and the little people got angry and now we will soon have Trump again. Does anyone thing that he will do anything about it? Nope! He will be playing golf, taking executive time, pooping his diapers and Tweeting or XXXing.
The other problem is That the Manufacturer's have all but stopped making cars and only want to make trucks and Suv and people to not have a choice anymore.
Three months of wages from Ford in 1920 could buy you a brand new model T. 2024 it would take you about two years worth of wages to be able to afford a bronco thats engine might more than likely blow up and be out of warranty before you even pay it off. what’s becoming an even bigger issue is that people aren’t even able to pay these cars off before they die and have to roll over loan payment into a new car. The cost of the vehicle already being totally unaffordable and then you have to roll $20,000 of an old loan payment into a new loan payment at a higher interest rate lol
I'm happy with my 08 Buick Lacrosse. The engine will outlive me and it's comfortable
I have a 2000 Chevy Express that will have to last me, it's nickel and diming to death but it still runs good, and it's turning into a rust bucket. Only 180k miles.
Does that have the 3.8 V6?
@@notoriousLSGshow It does. Very quiet engine.
Totally agree, they price themselves out of the market !! Pathetic greed ! CEOs making millions, its an insult !
Even worse is that these new cars aren’t built to last like older cars and they are so advanced with computers that you can’t even work on them anymore to save money. 💰
100k for a domestic...5yrs later resale 25k...imo
If you're lucky
It’d be worse on an Audi, BMW, Mercedes, or Jaguar.
Yep
As i always tell people, if you want to be convinced of what to buy, try a 12 year old toyota, drive the same as the brand new one, try a 12y old chev or ford (if they exists) and compare it to a new one. Toyota are built to last forever
A domestic made in another country.
Build the basic two or four wd vehicle. Anything beyond am radio and heater is a customer option
An FM radio is actually cheaper.
The real reason for the bad sales is you can’t expect a person making $15- $20 dollars an hour to pay for a vehicle that cost $60- $100 dollars an hour to build. Between the manufacturer, the unions and the dealerships adding their mark-ups (sometimes 21%) places the cost outside of most average workers. I noticed that one of the trucks shown cost over $106,000 dollars, that’s more than my first house cost…and that was a 30 year mortgage rate. The other problem is once prices increase, (except for gasoline) the cost never ever gets reduced. The current policy - “Charge what ever the market will bear”…yeah, you’ll always find somebody with more money that sense to pay that high amount for a vehicle.
Labor contributes only 10 to 12% to the price of a vehicle.
Those 60k to 100k trucks cost 15k to 18k to build
@@briancrook6564 That was one of my questions....how much does it 'really' cost to build these units of the line
Great job consumers.Dont buy these over priced pieces of junk.The prices will come down I guarantee it.❤❤❤❤❤
Automakers and dealers have now priced themselves out of the market. New cars ROTTING on factory and dealer lots sometimes for a year or more, is PROOF.
American car companies really shot themselves in the foot when they decided to start charging European luxury car prices for mediocre American junk.
Get rid of all the useless and overly expensive technology that serve little purpose in many of the vehicles and bring the price down.
This information made my heart stop for a second! I can get a house for that! Unbelievable!
Was going to buy a new car, got 15k for a down payment, but it looks like ima save some more for a bigger down-payment. Drive my beater a little more till prices crash more.
I’ve been doing that for ten years now. I got to the point that I’m happier having a massive bank account then a new truck to drive to work.
Drive your beater. You can drive it till the wheels fall off and use your down payment money to put them back on 5 times over. I met a guy who was thinking of buying a new car. Instead he redid suspension, tinted windows, fancy radio and a professional detail on his old car. It drove like new, looked great and he saved a TON of money. He set that money aside for any other mechanical stuff that might come up. You earn interest instead of paying interest on a new car that way
I had a Nissan salesman tell me he's never sold so many cars regardless of price. I just laughed and laughed.
It’s the norm, dealers mark down one or two vehicles to advertise. But once you show up everything is full price plus.
That is called “Bait and Switch” .
I think it’s still illegal.
I've got a 99 Chevy Silverado,it runs great. I just had rocker panels and cab corners fixed. No payment for last 14:years.
Yep! My new resolve is to not even entertain buying a new car. Their turned to get ripped!
does anyone know what exactly happens with the unsold cars each year, where are those unsold cars, are they for sale?
Got a 96 Chevy K1500 with 225k.
Every time I think I'm getting tired of fixing this old truck all I have to do is check out new & used truck prices.
.."dad sigh".. guess I'll keep this old girl for a few more years....:)
The big 3 can kick rocks
Serves them right! Price gouging during COVID, lame excuses afterwards, and over-priced vehicles. No thank you. Waiting over a year for a Ford truck? Yeah, NO!!!
Still driving my grandpa’s ‘92 Buick Roadmaster. I remember riding in the backseat when I was a little boy, now it’s my daily driver.
Dude my brothers childhood friend had one of those that year passed down from his dad , a Fn tank had almost 400k on it , but it rusted out being in NYS
Awesome
This is why my wife's inherited 84 c10 was pulled from country by me and I help her fix and take care of it. Along with my 71 delta 88 convertible, and her 17 jeep patriot. All 3 crank up, run and are paid off. Only car note is 2020 gladiator, but we work from home. Feels great to have 4 vehicles run and 3 paid off in your yard. Let it rot. 😅
This is what is happening with everything. Made out of the cheapest materials they can find while they raise the prices through the roof and is all being intentionally made to break. This is even happening with food packaging. For example removed the zipper seal from hot dogs but they raised the price 2 dollars.
My 2005 4 Runner was bought for ~13k about 6 years ago with about 110k miles, and it still runs like a champ. No plans whatsoever to get rid of it anytime soon.
I'm 64, when I was a kid dealers only had one of each model on at the dealership. If you didn't want the one there you would order the color and options, you wanted. Then in the late 70's these massive dealers started popping up. 2 to 4 or more, of ever car and truck in every color. These giant dealers brought their own hardships on themselves. Also the prices today are crazy. Nobody buys vehicles anymore. The lease them for 1/3 the cost on the monthly payment. After the lease. The dealer tries selling the vehicle for a couple thousand less than the cost of a new one.
UAW=Poor quality work for outrageously high prices. That's why I don't buy American.
How is the union to blame? It's the CEOs that put profits before quality. And they bribed politicians to protect the US market from superior foreign brands.
I have a Toyota Sienna 500,000 miles. Regular maintenance still going. It’s like the Energizer bunny of vehicles.
Because it's a Toyota, my dude. I have a 2018 RAV4 with 100,000. I've EASILY got years to go before it wears out
Who cares?
2004 scion xB with 306,000. Everything works.
My uncle has a sienna with 750km on it. He went on a business trip with a colleague who has a 2yr old gm, he could not believe it that the sienna was more solid than hi gm lol
I remember back in the day when you can order factory direct the exact car you wanted. You can get four wheel locking lug four-wheel drive or whatever little options you wanted now you have to go through the dealer you have to get the cookie cutter car and you have to go to some custom shop if you want to get some minor little difference other than the color.
Car prices are insane anymore. I could go out and finance a moderate size home for the price of some if these new cars nowadays. The only way prices are going to come down is for people to stop paying the absurd prices. Also never buy new it's a scam a used vehicle that is 1-2 years old with a few thousand miles on it is much cheaper in the long run and works just as well as a new one most of the stime still being under warranty as well. I have never bought a new vehicle in my life always pre-owned and have saved a bunch of money over the years.
Me too…bought a new Sunbird one time only…served me well tho…
100k+ for a truck?
Does it suck me off while I drive? 🤣🤣🤣
ROFL 94k for a Chevy truck, do you know how many times I could rebuild my Excursion for that?
2001 Silverado 2500hd 8.1l. $5000 13 years ago! My daily driver! No issues, I can't fix!
Half the stuff in those things you don’t even need. I don’t even want a vehicle with Onstar equipped. Don’t even get me started on the parts and service.
This video makes me love my used cars that I paid cash for. I doubt the prices of cars built in Canada and Mexico are going down.
My last purchased vehicle is a 2002 Chevrolet Venture. Spent 2,900. I've owned it for three year's. Paid cash. Runs just fine. Most I have paid for a vehicle about 6 grand. If I need to travel distance I will rent. No 5,6,7 hundred car payments for me, for a depreciated product.
You can buy a nice little condo for the price of these pieces of junk. Who the hell wants to spend $100k on a headache? My parents bought a really nice 2024 Honda CRV, and last week, they had to take it in because of a recall. They were sitting at the dealership for almost 7 hours waiting for the work to get done.
WAY TO OVERPRICED SELLING FOR WHAT HOUSES USED TO SELL FOR
My dad bought his suburban Cleveland house in 1959 for $25K. Sold last year for $200K
I met a GM executive once. He had more money than Lucifer. I'm pushing my old car still probably will keep it running til the day I die. Good ridens
124K for an F150. what kind of drugs are you on?
I'm keeping my 1995 F350 Powerstroke thank you very much. It's worth more now than what I paid for it. Every time I take it in for service the mechanics want to buy it.
This is a clear sign of a recession, at least for the automotive industry.
It is a clear sign of gouging...all around.
Not just the United States, Canada too. Prices are completely ridiculous.
Home keeping my 2016 Buick Until the wheels fall off Dealerships get their head out of their butts
A lot of vehicles these days cost more than my first home!! Insane😂😂
I hope that pricing isn't the sole reason consumers are not buying, I for one am not interested in all the 4cyl push into full size vehicles that have no business using a 4cyl. I don't care if it's boosted with 50 turbochargers, I don't care if the torque is higher than it's V8 or V6 equivalent, it can't tow as much, it's going to be riddled with problems because news flash, 4cyl vehicles in full size models consume more fuel and have a higher maintenance cost. Minimum V6 turbo is fine but these idiots who are being cheap throwing these crappy 4cyl motors into everything are ruining what made their vehicles great.
turbocharged gasoline cars are just not reliable
4 years ago I bought a used Hummer H3 for 10k, had 130k miles on it. Got told I did a bad deal and all. I worked on it, fixed it up as much as I could afford, and to this day it's driving and needing repairs here and there.
I look at today's prices and I guess I'll have to keep fixing her up, cause 90k for a truck is a no-go.
It's still a clown car.
@@swampwiz Then don't buy one. I'll stick to it.
No matter what they cost their still JUNK. ford, chevy, dodge, all of them.
Not worth the price! Never have been!
I’ve got 2008 Silverado 5.3L which still runs like a champ. Just changed the brakes and tyres so good for few more years. I have no intention of replacing it anytime soon.
A 100 yr old dealership in my area was forced to close because of what's going on.
Sanity coming after 100 years
If it doesn't have crank windows and manual transmission, I am not buying it
2002 GMC Envoy, 340k on the counter, SLT option package, going strong,. Straight 6, you would not believe how many offers I've had for it. The best grey man car ever, why buy new when you like what you got.
BTW, my tool chest is taller than me, and I use them all.
2002 Nissan Frontier. 335K. Bought it new.
Production costs of the F150 is around $35k, give or take a few thousand. Selling these trucks at $75k+ is ridiculous!
If all the car dealers and OEMs would sell their cars at about 35% what there worth, they'd sell off the shelves and recoup all there money back. Greed is what's holding them back. Always the $$$$$.
Root of all evil eh
It's difficult to find a regular cab with an 8 foot bed .. Everything on the lots are 4 door fully loaded trucks ...
It took me more than a year to find my 2015, reg cab, shorty Ram, and it was a fluke. Now, 3 1/2 years after I bought it, the dealer still wants me to sell it for what I paid, just to spend $90k on a small semi truck with a tablet on the dash. no thanks.
2009 mazda 3 that's still going. Stick with you cars people.
I had a 2008 Taurus that I loved so much. Made it to 2022 but developed an electrical problem and no one could fix it. Had it to 3 shops, one kept it for 2 months, still no clue. Mechanics are not what they used to be either.
We just had a Ford dealership in Holden, MA close after 101 years in business. No surprise.