THE SAD TRUTH ABOUT PIERRE LUC DUBOIS AND THE LA KINGS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Today let's delve into the reasons behind Pierre Luc Dubois' unsuccessful tenure with the LA Kings in the NHL. To fully understand this we need to look back at his tenure with previous teams as well as the Kings, to analyze his performance metrics, team dynamics, and the challenges he faced during his time with each Franchise. What contributed to this unexpected outcome and what does all of this mean for both Dubois and the Kings moving forward, well let's break this down and find out. Subscribe to Jimmy Hockey for more NHL News and Breakdowns.
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Who do you blame for the failure between Pierre Luc Dubois and the Los Angeles Kings? Let me know if you think PLD will have a bounce back year with the Washington Capitals!
I think it's a weird situation, he definitely has effort issues but the kings playstyle did not open up for him to do what he wanted to do. Also, the caps are not a veteran team bro, only Carlson, Dowd, Wilson and Ovi, the rest lack experience or have not been in the league very long.
What hurts is the fact we gave up Patrick laine for him !!!
he is a spineless figurant,so many other guy would fight for a chance to play in the NHL and this dude floats around the ice grabbing a few millions on the way.
IF he flies with the capitals it will be a black eye to a few organizations.
PLD mostly. But the Kings were utilizing players poorly last year, and there seems to be some issue now between the Kings and Kaliyev.
He has no will to compete, and will never live up to that contract. Watching him in LA, he doesn’t care enough. Good on L.A. for dumping him. Third liner at best.
No, not good on LA, they pissed away a pile of assets for a player everyone knew was a cancer, then gave him way too much money. Rob Blake should be fired, period
Iafollo, Vilardi, Kupari, Dubois, and. 2nd round draft pick in 2024 for Darcy Kuemper, not so good on LA
@@jimmyhockey granted, being able to get out from under that contract and turn it into a useful goalie which they needed, was masterful and likely what will save his job, lol
He and Laine
@@realtalk5931 They are ironically similar
I promise you PLD was not a fan favourite in Winnipeg lmao. Although we’re very grateful LA gave up everything to have the privilege of overpaying him
Shhhh nobody wants to play there lol
I think a lot of fans liked him, there was no issues until he allegedly requested a trade
I don’t think he was hated or loved. He made it pretty clear signing long term in Winnipeg. He played well in Winnipeg just bellow Lianes points filled the role. Managed to give himself value and we got fan favourite valardi for him.
Didn’t hate his time on the Jets tbh but valardi is king
@jimmyhockey We liked having a second line center, but he never lived up to being a third overall pick.
You still think LA gave up a lot to acquire PLD. The trade was Villardi for PLD essentially. And Villardi is made of glass. Good luck!
PLD is hockeys Tin Man. He’s got every tool it takes to be a star except for a heart.
Maybe this will be the time he finds it. After receiving so much criticism I’m sure he will play with a bit more edge this year
That’s a great analogy…he has too many moments where it looks like he has a job vs the honour of playing in the NHL.
Absolutely, could be easily a PPG player if only he had the desire. Pathetic as many kids would kill for his talent.
As an LA kings fan, I was optimistic when we first got him. He played good to start, then you see the lazy plays. The flashes of brilliance come out too. It's about time people realize that after 3 teams, maybe its not the environment, maybe it is the player and just being flat out lazy. He has been in 3 different hockey environments, 2 contenders and still the same things get said over and over again. You really can't defend him anymore at this point.
Yep. I'll be honestly surprised if anything changes in Washington.
He’s a nhl be a pro player, almost every opportunity I got, I asked for a trade 😂😂😂😂
As a Ducks fan, I wish he stayed on your team =)
I think he was solid with the Jets though. Columbus he was young and with Torts who knows what really happened. LA seemed like the low point of his career, if the same thing happens in Washington then yes its probably and attitude/effort issue with PLD
The unfortunate mix of talent and bad attitude
PLD has always been the problem. The Kings forgot the Cardinal Rule of relationships, whether business or personal: You date the stripper, you never marry the stripper".
He’s not the sole problem, it’s about the system and of course PLD needing to give effort. The Kings were not setting him up for success and he wasn’t playing with 100% effort, just seemed like a poor fit
@@jimmyhockey For me. 100% effort is non-negotiable, especially when you're making millions of dollars.
@@jimmyhockey IMHO...he must earn top line spot. And he never did. $ 8 million to watch him refuse to back check. You must earn the top 6
@@jimmyhockeycalling him the sole problem seems like the lazy answer but in his case it's correct
@@jimmyhockey Just amazed that the kings got him to play him as a 3rd center, He was not going to replace Kopitar or Danault.
PLD is a lazy diva. No business in NHL.
Imo the problem is his attitude. Not a character guy
I won't speak on that, I don't know him personally and this is solely based on rumors. I haven't seen players or coaches talk poorly about him outside of tortsy
Moving in PLD to your organization these days would be like moving in a girl to your home that just got dumped by three different guys in short order. Probably something you might want to reconsider.🤔
Bergevin. He is to blame in LA.
Good point
Love these types of videos Jimmy, keep up the great work!
Thanks! Appreciate the kind words🙏🏻
It’s crazy how the media before all the Tortorella drama hyped this guy up like he was the best center in the league 😂
He definitely had the potential size and skill wise to be talked about as a very good center not a generational talent or anything though
Great work man. Really like your channel. Keep it up 👍🏼
Thanks, appreciate it
They also gave up Sean durzi to acquire the 2nd in the pld trade
Yeah the package they gave the Jets is what really makes this one hurt
Hey bro! Love the videos I’m also trying to get into covering hockey videos myself and couldn’t help but notice you have a fduce mic ? Would ya recommend it? I’m using a blue yeti atm and it doesn’t give clear good professional sound like yourself ! Just thought I’d reach out and ask ya what you think (: thanks
My advice, don't focus so much on equipment, make videos you enjoy and the results won't matter. As long as you are happy and enjoying what you do success will always follow. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!
@@jimmyhockey thanks my guy appreciate it !
he just got absolutely smoked by the Providence Bruins
PLD is a lazy baby.
It's easy to blame Dubois but he was thrown into a new locker room, with less icetime as a 3rd center.
1- Kopitar was the nb 1 center with offensive duties
2- Philip Danault was the nb 2 center with defensive duties. (the guy changed team because of potential reduced ice time)
3- His linemates were rookies and rank fillers ( sorry Trevor Lewis)
How exactly is that a winning condition?
It wasn’t a winning condition the Kings definitely put him in a tough situation, however he clearly checked out during the season at times, just was a bad fit all together
@@jimmyhockey 100% . Some people are calling him a locker room cancer.. I would not go that far, but Dubois clearly needs support.
I watched 4/5ths of the games PLD was in for the Kings. The Kings emphasize two-way play and PLD with his big body would often dodge opponents in the defensive zone. So many goals were scored against the Kings when he and rookie defenseman Jordan Spence were on the ice in the Kings' zone. Jordan is a rookie puck mover so while it's not ideal for a defenseman to let in goals, he's a rookie and learning. PLD is a huge center and a longtime veteran and you can see him skating around the defensive zone around players he should be checking (body, stick, whatever).
TL DR, you play your way into the top six. You also play your way out of the top six. PLD played his way out of the top six.
@@Rorschachqp Playing regularly with Laferriere, Trevor Moore, victor addison is a wierd spot when you arrive with a new team. He has been bundled around with every forward in that team.
Let's face it. The LA kings had no idea what they wanted when they got Dubois. They knew how he played and tried to change his ways while cutting his icetime and using him as filling.
Lots of team do this, they just do not usually offer 8.5 million contracts for 8 years to do so.
Even if PLD has a bad attitude, this was pure mismanagement by LA
@@MrDecelles You're misconstruing cause and effect.
Just a locker room cancer
So happy Habs management didn't get fooled like the French fanbase and media clamoring for him
Nice video boss , I enjoy your vids .
Glad you like them!
I think pld will have a come back year because his back is against the wall. Also the expectations with Washington will be less. They aren't a cup contender.
All true, he has to show that he can work well with a team for more than two years, I think he found the perfect situation to do that
Not every player who gets drafted deserves to be there.. the draft is usually a bust and more teams shouldn't rely upon it to build a team
did you say "adding to their cup ready roster" LMFAO bro LA was nowhere near cup ready roster when they added PLD wow lol
Incompetent management thought they were though
All they needed was a goalie which they very easily could’ve gotten at the deadline had PLD panned out. Remember they were expecting him to come in and be at lease a 60 point player with a ton of upside
Heavily underestimating the LA Kings
I agree with you, but I never heard anyone else saying that
$8.5mill
Wow. Up there with the outrageous Benn/Huberdeau/Nurse/Jones contracts.
Thats a F ton of money for a 3rd/4th liner.
He’s definitely a bit overpayed based on his production from last year
Washington trading for him gave the kings a huge lifeline. If I was the owner of washington I would fire the GM the second I heard of this trade. What in the world was washingotn thinking.
Washington is in a limbo period, their roster is aging and they have no center help. The team wants to be competitive until Ovi retires, but they just don't have the makeup. They signed Kuemper to that terrible deal and wanted to dish off the contract which is why is was one bad deal for another swap. Not a bad move, risky, but not bad given their current situation
There’s some contracts you see get signed and you go “uhhhhhhhh why” and PLD to LA was one of those, we knew that ship was gonna sink but we didn’t think it was after year 1. I hope he gets bought out and doesn’t play in the NHL again, this guy is a clown
I never root against players, that just seems silly. PLD was perfect for the Kings on paper, just not great when it actually happened. I think he will have a bounce back year and will be in a good position with the caps
Heard rumors he was out drinking and doing karaoke with Talbot and Lizotte a few days after they got eliminated and I'd imagine that pissed Blake off more than he already was. I defended him all year and gave him the benefit of the doubt. I thought this dude was gonna impact some games come playoff time but couldn't be further from the truth. IMO he lost his love of the game and does just enough to get by like your average worker does.
Karaoke?! God forbid..Should they have been in mourning??
@@theScotian24 yep
That's Charlie
Never believed in PLD.
Agree with you. 3 teams, nearly a decade in the league.
0 thirty goal seasons and plenty of evidence of being a petulant asshole
I believe in him, I just think he is not an 80 Point player, I always felt like he was more of a middle six guy capable of around 60 points
Rumors is he was asking for 8+million from the Jets, who were not willing to meet his demands, so they traded him to the Kings. His parents live in Winnipeg and had said he enjoyed the city. After he got to the Kings he didn't get to play the same minutes as he got in Winnipeg. His points and confidence took at hit. If he gets the minutes to can get a good number of points.
I agree, I think given where the Jets are now, they probably feel okay about this trade, but even so they could use a second line center and PLD likely would have been a 60+ point player there had he stayed. I think Washington will be a good spot for him, Veterans with championship aspirations and a team that has a lot to prove
Winnipeg is A dump. It literally shouldn’t exist. No more need for A city located there. Why would any millionaire professional athlete want to play there?
Very true.
They are a great organization to play for, management will pay fair contracts, fans love their players, truly a hockey city. Just a small market
this is your capitalistic and consumer brain everyone
The thing with PLD is that he simply doesn’t love the game of hockey. It’s an actual job for him. I’ve never seen someone play with no passion or energy in my entire life. It was infuriating
Lazy is lazy it doesn't matter were you are at , it's a statement of character and PLD has none.
From anecdotal stories I've heard about him (take with a strong grain of salt), I've heard that he's just an introverted guy who doesn't really fit in with the hockey bro locker room cultures conmon across teams and that he's a guy who's just not really motivated by personal accolades that much.
I don't know how that will affect his tenure with the Caps but at the very least playing with the star power of Ovi could help him reach his potential a bit more.
Not sure about all of that. I do agree that Ovi and his leadership should inspire PLD though. Either way he will be given better opportunities in Washington so his production should go up
Dubois got Torterella as a rookie, got sent to winnipeg and then signed a nb 1 center contract to play as a 3rd liner center. Most people would have trouble with this.
The kings mismanaged this.
@@haraldgriefbacon1373 Some players need constant reinforcement and motivation, some players only work with people yelling at them.
The king's locker room hierarchy seems pretty set in stone .
Its his play away from the puck. Hes the last guy to back check. Lazy, Not a 2 way player at all. Caps will find out fast.
Their coach will get the most out of him, seems like a good influence on the Caps. LA is not innocent here they for sure left him to dry in a lot of different scenarios. This will be his prove it year.
As a Kings fan, my frustration grew to the point where I'd specifically watch PLD when he was on the ice to see what was happening. The guy avoided the puck at all costs. It was incredibly rare that he'd bury his head and give 100% skating effort to make a play. There were even times when the other team had a breakaway, PLD was the closest guy, yet another teammate further back made it to the action. It was absolute insanity to see how little effort he put in. There were rare flashes of brilliance where he'd undress the other team's defense, and those are the plays that gave false hope. If I looked at the entire season, I'd say he gave 40% effort. As a Kings fan since the 80's, PLD is the only player that I wouldn't want to meet in person and get an autograph. I'm so happy he got traded.
He simply did not fit in with thee Kings' 1-3-1 system.
Ironically, the team is trying to change to another, more creative system after Dubois
is now gone.
Chris Chelios watched him in action last year and said as a tv commentater, "He's talented. He's big and skates well. But I just don't see a pulse there."
That could be part of the problem too.
As a caps fan and I am excited to have him
You should be! I’m expecting a big bounce back year
@trisgilmour ditto
Let us know how that works out for ya!
This will age poorly. Check back at Christmas
@@trisgilmour
Sorry bud, you ain’t excited. You’re just desperate for any jolt that might keep the ovi era alive.
he wanted to be real to himself, and to his teammates....real lazy. To answer your question, how do you spell bum? P L D
As a Kings fan, I was hyped up for him. I heard all of the negative comments about him, but I dismissed it as, he was learning a new system, he was now playing on the 3rd line with bottom 6 players when he should have been on the second line. And after the all star break, it seemed like he was back to being a force. Unfortunately, my assumption of him was completely wrong. I don’t wish anything bad to him and hope he has a successful career playing for Washington, New Jersey, NYI, Buffalo, Nashville, Seattle, Calgary, Utah and Ducks.
I remember reading articles from LA Kings scribes saying that PLD was going to be a crucial element in shutting down one of McDavid or Draisitl, should the Oilers and Kings meet in the playoffs. I then read even more articles saying the same thing when the Oilers and Kings were locked in a 1st round matchup for the 3rd year in a row. What's funny is that, not only did he NOT shut down McDavid or Draisitl, he got shut down...BY RYAN MCLEOD!
Isn't it ironic that PLD wanted to go to the habs, but now Laine is playing for them? 😅
It's projecting to say PLD's trade destroyed the Kings' chances for Cup contention in the playoffs. The Kings, with no 1C, no 1D and no 1G never had a chance. The moment they let go of Dean Lombardi in 2020, they should have been looking at a total rebuild within a couple years.
jet fan here
pierre-luc Dubois showed flashes of Brilliance and ditto laZiness in Winnipeg and clb
he struggled in LA
he will need caps coach sc for modivation and trust
i can't believe wash took this trade
Also, despite it being a bad trade… the kings only lost injury riddled Vilardi who has only played 45 games in a season once. He was gone regardless.
As a Kings fan i was pretty heartbroken considering the haul it took to get him and the financial commitment the Kings had made.
The Kings did drop the ball on his usage. Any player that gets over 100 minutes less power play time is not going to give you much, hut at the same time for $8 million dollars a player should make things pretty evident he needs more usage.
Pierre simply didn't earn much and didn't make it a hard decision to use him less.
PLD was lucky to be a pro athlete in LA making $8.5 million in LA and he wasted it, if I had his life playing pro hockey in LA making $8.5 million I would buy a house in the hills drive a roof down Ferrari and bang every Instagram model living in LA. Too bad PLD only lived in LA for a year but hopefully he made the most out of the lifestyle there.
nhl paycheck for a beer league ringer. when you can notice a player coasting out of 12 players and 4 referees/linesman on the ice, in every game, oh hell nah. get the grifter off the ice. I think once he got the bag, and the grift secured, he don't gaf. Rob Blake, stop surfing in that dirty Pacific ocean and getting hit on the head at beach volleyball. what were you thinking?
The problem with PLD like all superstars where their egos sometimes overrule their talents and blame everyone else but themselves
He is a waist of time and money always has been always will be. If he gets a contract after this one runs out it will only be because he signs for what he is maybe worth. The league minimum which I truly believe is again over payment.
the fact that rob blake still hs a job after the biggest bungle of a trade since ottawa and mika zibannejad is a testament of how inept the kings are ran since their last cup... also i give pld 2 seasons before he wants out of washington
I hated when the habs fans were so desperate for PLD, dodged a bullet!
Dean Lombardi would never let this guy on the Kings let alone give up a young player like Gabe Vilardi.
Never have I been more sad and mad that someone with talent just absolutely SQUANDERING everything handed to him. Sid still does ridiculous drills in the summer. I don't know if he likes being a hockey player. He hasn't proven anything since his sophomore season. All in all disappointed
Ovechkin will either inspire him or break him. Either way, PLB is a bigger bust than chucky…barring the felony convictions.
Bust is strong, its really only one bad season. I expect a bounce back, sometimes things don't work out, but you should always root for the players
@@jimmyhockey could just be the French talking. Here, any francophone is considered the next lafleur so anyone not living up to that standard is a bust. But he has a record of laziness and sub standard play vs hos wages and potential.
how does rob blake have his job still? stop hiring plumbers to be architects. it doesn't work.
The simple truth about dubois is that he wants to play for him hometown, and hes willing to be a suckhole to do so
Pierre lived in the suite beside mine in Winnipeg. He's a cool dude. Smoked lots of weed with him lol
Kind of reminds me of Alexandre Daigle
Same guy who got taken over keller. Tage, mcavoy you name it 😂
🙄So what IS the sad truth??
he is a typical french hockey player. They are all Divas
PLD reminds me of Jason Bonsignore.
He is a bust and a toxic individual.
Hoppe Walk
Im really hoping he likes dc. If not we are cooked
Washington would benefit a lot if he can find his game again
Well, as an arm chair player, I think PLD is just straight up lazy. Now, you might object to that statement, but lets be real....if you mess up in one market, sure that happens. If you mess up in 2, ok....if you mess up in every single market you enter? Thats just a lazy player, get the money, check out. I think PLD is exactly that kind of player. Honestly, I think he should be kicked to the curb and let some younger, hungrier, willing to play their worth players in. He has has enough chances.
Columbus was because Torts is not the coach for everyone and clearly he didn’t mesh well with PLD, in Winnipeg he was solid and played quite well, and LA there was a slight lack of effort but the coaching staff put him in tough situations, I think he can be lazy at times but it’s not that bad
Hi, I'm Nobody Important in Hamilton. If PLD found that it stinks in Columbus and it stinks in Winnipeg and in L.A. maybe the stink is deep in him. Like under his nose.
I don’t think he felt Winnipeg or La Stunk, I think with Winnipeg he wanted a long deal and they didn’t want to pay him, and LA clearly things just weren’t a good fit for either party
PLD is going to drag the Caps down, Ovi is going to score even LESS than he did last season, Caps will NOT make the playoffs. Ovi signs with the NYR and breaks the needle nosed pricks' record at MSG in a blueshirt in Jan '26 then IMMEDIATELY retires the next game.
I can almost guarantee none of this will happen
Im from Peg there was no question he asked for a trade, it was widely reported. That said Chevy does make sure the contact is worth it.
In hindsight Chevy made the right call and got some great players for it
Still think he would flourish under Marty St Louis. Back where he wanted to be in the first place.
I think he will thrive in Washington if he wants to. But in Montreal I’m not sure especially with them having Laine now
Ovie will put him in his place and make him act right. Ovie got him lol
I like the pairing
he will be lucky to get 80 points just for being on the first line
80 seems like a stretch, he’s only been max a 60 point player so that’s kind of been his ceiling
4 teams in 8 seasons…. That’s a good look lol
For sure but doesn’t really matter. All that matters is how he plays with Washington this year, it will tell a lot
The kings will pat themselves on the back by trading him and even getting a half decent goalie in return.
They gave him 8.5🤦♂️
Embarrassing
La was a better team with Vilardi and Iafallo. They also gave up a second round pick which is gross.
Yeah not sure why people are praising the Kings for what they did here. Like I highlighted, Kupari, Iafollo, Vilardi, 2nd rnd 2024 pick, and PLD for Darcy Kuemper, not great
Rob Blake is to blame.
For the trade yes, everything else was just a bad fit
I don't like when fans call guys a bust
This guy is still a top 6 Center on a NHL team finished playing World Championships for Canada. Has put up 60+ pts.
It's not a failure to me yes he doesn't try,yes he didn't show loyalty and cares more about money and location. Reminds me of the EvanderKane hate and DanyHeatley back in day.
How many hockey players grow up wanting get drafted,make millions,play NHL/pro hockey,Represent country WJC/WC,and is only 26yrs old. Yes he's not a McDavid,McKinnon,Crosby but it's not like he was drafted never played or got a regular job,isn't talented or gets to do what is a dream of many hockey players.
Even say a 1st round pick who still gets to play pro either I KHL/NHL/NLA make 150k plus a year I don't consider a bust they are still living their dream. And making more then us regular folk.
Great Video, as usual, Jimmy. I think that you've got to give a lot of criticism to Torts. Both Patrik Laine & he had troubles with John Tortorella/Torts in Columbus. Let me know what you think
I like Torts but his coaching style if built for a different era of hockey. Players seem to be gravitating more towards the good guy coach over the hard edged ones. For Laine and PLD clearly they don't respond to his style, which is fine but tough when neither the coach or player is willing to compromise
@@jimmyhockey Thank You for your comment & response. I agree that Torts is A Terrific Coach & can get Results (as he did with The Bad Philadelphia Flyers team, the past season), however, having said that, it's not that I don't think that he's got to press the guys, but, I think that he's got to find a way to relate to the players & get the results without the Anger Management issues that he seems to have, even in interviews with The Media/Next Question comments. I think that it's really the reason Cam Atkinson & Ryan Johansen don't want to play for him & parted ways with The Philadelphia Flyers. Let me know what you think
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I'm expecting a bounce back. The second half of last year PLD was playing good enough that I picked him up onto my fantasy hockey roster. With top six minutes he should be back to a 60+ point player.
Very true, people seem to miss that LA had him playing 3rd or 4th line minutes most of the year, Washington will have more opportunities for him and I expect him to look more like he did in Winnipeg
I respect your right to be wrong. He’s broken. Soft mentally and bugger all work ethic
@@jimmyhockey
How’s that that an excuse? lol
If he practiced hard and showed some Dam fight he’d get more minutes.
Love your channel though btw. 🤣
PLD ‘s father is a coach in the Jets organization. I wonder if that influenced his decision?
For him to leave the organization? Not sure... feels like he would want him to stay instead right?
PLD is a lazy bust. Period. He whined to go to Montreal, but they knew what kind of player he was, thank God.
I wouldn’t call a 40-60 point player a “bust” overpayed for sure but a bust is a bit strong
@@jimmyhockey see if he ever gets 60 points again.
And, by the way, 60 points, for where he was drafted and what he's paid, is worse than disappointing. And that's his high point.