Who do you blame for the failure between Pierre Luc Dubois and the Los Angeles Kings? Let me know if you think PLD will have a bounce back year with the Washington Capitals!
I think it's a weird situation, he definitely has effort issues but the kings playstyle did not open up for him to do what he wanted to do. Also, the caps are not a veteran team bro, only Carlson, Dowd, Wilson and Ovi, the rest lack experience or have not been in the league very long.
he is a spineless figurant,so many other guy would fight for a chance to play in the NHL and this dude floats around the ice grabbing a few millions on the way.
He has no will to compete, and will never live up to that contract. Watching him in LA, he doesn’t care enough. Good on L.A. for dumping him. Third liner at best.
No, not good on LA, they pissed away a pile of assets for a player everyone knew was a cancer, then gave him way too much money. Rob Blake should be fired, period
@@jimmyhockey granted, being able to get out from under that contract and turn it into a useful goalie which they needed, was masterful and likely what will save his job, lol
As a Kings fan, my frustration grew to the point where I'd specifically watch PLD when he was on the ice to see what was happening. The guy avoided the puck at all costs. It was incredibly rare that he'd bury his head and give 100% skating effort to make a play. There were even times when the other team had a breakaway, PLD was the closest guy, yet another teammate further back made it to the action. It was absolute insanity to see how little effort he put in. There were rare flashes of brilliance where he'd undress the other team's defense, and those are the plays that gave false hope. If I looked at the entire season, I'd say he gave 40% effort. As a Kings fan since the 80's, PLD is the only player that I wouldn't want to meet in person and get an autograph. I'm so happy he got traded.
Oh yeah, and don't forget how he would always literally point out his defensive assignments for other players to cover, as if he was out there just coaching his teammates.
As an LA kings fan, I was optimistic when we first got him. He played good to start, then you see the lazy plays. The flashes of brilliance come out too. It's about time people realize that after 3 teams, maybe its not the environment, maybe it is the player and just being flat out lazy. He has been in 3 different hockey environments, 2 contenders and still the same things get said over and over again. You really can't defend him anymore at this point.
I think he was solid with the Jets though. Columbus he was young and with Torts who knows what really happened. LA seemed like the low point of his career, if the same thing happens in Washington then yes its probably and attitude/effort issue with PLD
I don’t think he was hated or loved. He made it pretty clear signing long term in Winnipeg. He played well in Winnipeg just bellow Lianes points filled the role. Managed to give himself value and we got fan favourite valardi for him. Didn’t hate his time on the Jets tbh but valardi is king
PLD has always been the problem. The Kings forgot the Cardinal Rule of relationships, whether business or personal: You date the stripper, you never marry the stripper".
He’s not the sole problem, it’s about the system and of course PLD needing to give effort. The Kings were not setting him up for success and he wasn’t playing with 100% effort, just seemed like a poor fit
Moving in PLD to your organization these days would be like moving in a girl to your home that just got dumped by three different guys in short order. Probably something you might want to reconsider.🤔
The thing with PLD is that he simply doesn’t love the game of hockey. It’s an actual job for him. I’ve never seen someone play with no passion or energy in my entire life. It was infuriating
I saw an interview...sorry but I cant remember the retired baseball player...he was a good solid pro but not a superstar. He said he had a good career, but he hated to play baseball. He said " I just happened to be really good at it " . He made a shit ton of money doing something he couldnt give a rats ass about.
I remember reading articles from LA Kings scribes saying that PLD was going to be a crucial element in shutting down one of McDavid or Draisitl, should the Oilers and Kings meet in the playoffs. I then read even more articles saying the same thing when the Oilers and Kings were locked in a 1st round matchup for the 3rd year in a row. What's funny is that, not only did he NOT shut down McDavid or Draisitl, he got shut down...BY RYAN MCLEOD!
Their coach will get the most out of him, seems like a good influence on the Caps. LA is not innocent here they for sure left him to dry in a lot of different scenarios. This will be his prove it year.
I won't speak on that, I don't know him personally and this is solely based on rumors. I haven't seen players or coaches talk poorly about him outside of tortsy
He simply did not fit in with thee Kings' 1-3-1 system. Ironically, the team is trying to change to another, more creative system after Dubois is now gone. Chris Chelios watched him in action last year and said as a tv commentater, "He's talented. He's big and skates well. But I just don't see a pulse there." That could be part of the problem too.
There is a clip in the la kings training camp series where he meets todd maclelland on the ice and he tells the coach he “only likes positive reinforcement because he already knows when he’s done something wrong” (paraphrased). That tells you all you need to know, a grown “man” telling his coach to only tell him the good things he’s done not the bad….
Heard rumors he was out drinking and doing karaoke with Talbot and Lizotte a few days after they got eliminated and I'd imagine that pissed Blake off more than he already was. I defended him all year and gave him the benefit of the doubt. I thought this dude was gonna impact some games come playoff time but couldn't be further from the truth. IMO he lost his love of the game and does just enough to get by like your average worker does.
Hi, I'm Nobody Important in Hamilton. If PLD found that it stinks in Columbus and it stinks in Winnipeg and in L.A. maybe the stink is deep in him. Like under his nose.
I don’t think he felt Winnipeg or La Stunk, I think with Winnipeg he wanted a long deal and they didn’t want to pay him, and LA clearly things just weren’t a good fit for either party
As a Kings fan, I was hyped up for him. I heard all of the negative comments about him, but I dismissed it as, he was learning a new system, he was now playing on the 3rd line with bottom 6 players when he should have been on the second line. And after the all star break, it seemed like he was back to being a force. Unfortunately, my assumption of him was completely wrong. I don’t wish anything bad to him and hope he has a successful career playing for Washington, New Jersey, NYI, Buffalo, Nashville, Seattle, Calgary, Utah and Ducks.
The best Rob Blake trade in Kings history was Rob Blake getting out from under the worst Rob Blake trade in Kings history acquiring PLD in the first place. He'll bomb in Washington; last one back on D every shift, he is a 1-dimensional player hard on offense huge liability on D, worse yet a very selfish player taking selfish penalties who is all mouth and no fists, challenging opponents but won't drop the gloves, going to a team that is more O than D for a bad fit, he will never be their first line center as you can't have 2 O first players with Ovy and PLD on the same line so he will cop an attitude as he always has and underperform as usual and will get bought out eventually, move to Hawaii, buy a mansion on the beach and laugh all the way to the bank. Tortorelli had him pegged. Darcy stood on his head last night glad to see him back, the boy knows how to square up, a bargain at $5M. Let's hope they treat him better than they did Quickie, we had to give up a first rounder to get rid of a Cup MVP??????? Then Quick stands on his head in Vegas the last 10 games of the regular season after goalie injuries and gets another ring going for #4 with the Rangers Touche!!! Hopefully ownership will now dump Blake, he is terrible at judging talent, Byfield at #2 didn't take Stützle, no contact figure skater Turcotte at #5, can't skate Clake at #8, Blake has to go!!!!!!!!!!
I generally gave him a break on the “effort” because it’s possible that he’s just that efficient, that it looks like he’s not trying, but he is. On the other hand, he was WAY TOO EASILY bumped off the puck, especially on the boards. But that’s where “lack of effort” came in. I would NEVER see him make an effort to get the puck back once he was EASILY bumped off. I think that’s all the fans wanted: a hint of fight in the guy. I never saw it. Also, I would watch the bench to see if he was chatting with other players. I think the guy was on an island. I wonder if he lacks social skills or his teammates just get pissed due to his lack of effort. It’s pure speculation, but I always suspected he had trouble developing relationships with his teammates because they viewed him as a primadona.
PLD is a lazy bump. He fleeced the Kings on his contract and they did well to not fall prey to the sunk cost fallacy and moved off him as best they could. They likely would've been a far better team had they not traded for him. Your comments are what they said when he came to Los Angeles. As soon as he has a little adversity, his true colors will show. He's talented, but unwilling to work hard for success
I've been a King's fan since 1974. The onus falls on Rob Blake. PLD wasn't the only 'mistake' Blake has done. He gave a giant contract to goaltender Peterson who played like crap after the contract. Blake dumped him to Philly. Blake has been a nightmare. PLD was toxic in the locker room as I see it. All that to get Kemper who was got rid of several years ago. #epicfailure
Getting rid of PLD was the best move Blake made in the off season. He was a cancer on the ice and in the locker room. Kings are much better without him.
"Lazy" isn't quite the right word for him. A lazy guy won't spend enough time in the gym to even get to the NHL. He's not unwilling to work, he just doesn't have the inner compete level or the desire of an NHL player. He knows you want him to be first on pucks, win battles, recover pucks, and go full out. The problem is he just doesn't agree that that's what he should be doing. He thinks that the way he's playing is correct. It's obvious he thinks/sees the game in a way where he'll just stand straight up and watch it unfold around him. And it's obvious he's very secure and confident in doing what he thinks is right, regardless of the consequences. I think they only way he ever reaches his potential is through hypnotherapy.
I dont think PLD's ego will tolerate feeding an aging and flat footed Ovi for very long. By December we'll be hearing about some drama going on with him.
From anecdotal stories I've heard about him (take with a strong grain of salt), I've heard that he's just an introverted guy who doesn't really fit in with the hockey bro locker room cultures conmon across teams and that he's a guy who's just not really motivated by personal accolades that much. I don't know how that will affect his tenure with the Caps but at the very least playing with the star power of Ovi could help him reach his potential a bit more.
Not sure about all of that. I do agree that Ovi and his leadership should inspire PLD though. Either way he will be given better opportunities in Washington so his production should go up
Dubois got Torterella as a rookie, got sent to winnipeg and then signed a nb 1 center contract to play as a 3rd liner center. Most people would have trouble with this. The kings mismanaged this.
@@haraldgriefbacon1373 Some players need constant reinforcement and motivation, some players only work with people yelling at them. The king's locker room hierarchy seems pretty set in stone .
To me, he’s like the girlfriend who always cheats and the new boyfriend thinks that he can change her and now the Washington Capitals are the new boyfriend. I’m actually a fan of his but at some point it’s on him.
There’s some contracts you see get signed and you go “uhhhhhhhh why” and PLD to LA was one of those, we knew that ship was gonna sink but we didn’t think it was after year 1. I hope he gets bought out and doesn’t play in the NHL again, this guy is a clown
I never root against players, that just seems silly. PLD was perfect for the Kings on paper, just not great when it actually happened. I think he will have a bounce back year and will be in a good position with the caps
The Kings gave him a chance… they played him at C or even wing on every line and in the power play. They tried him with Fiala, Danault, Moore, Byfield, and others. No chemistry. I came away from that season not even sure what Dubois is actually *good* at. He’s not fast, he’s not a sniper, he doesn’t have excellent passing vision, he didn’t make crazy dekes, he’s not overly physical, he’s not a defensive wizard… I really never knew why the Kings wanted him in the first place!
I think he is a big bodied center who plays well in system hockey. Basically when he is giving his full effort he is a solid middle six guy who is average at all the things you listed, that was something the Kings felt would benefit their team
jet fan here pierre-luc Dubois showed flashes of Brilliance and ditto laZiness in Winnipeg and clb he struggled in LA he will need caps coach sc for modivation and trust i can't believe wash took this trade
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His second year in The Peg he really found his niche. LA had him on the wing and never gave him the 2C spot letting Daneault play ahead of him. Then the minutes shifted to Byfield and it was curtains.
It's projecting to say PLD's trade destroyed the Kings' chances for Cup contention in the playoffs. The Kings, with no 1C, no 1D and no 1G never had a chance. The moment they let go of Dean Lombardi in 2020, they should have been looking at a total rebuild within a couple years.
Never have I been more sad and mad that someone with talent just absolutely SQUANDERING everything handed to him. Sid still does ridiculous drills in the summer. I don't know if he likes being a hockey player. He hasn't proven anything since his sophomore season. All in all disappointed
For the Kings it’s Rob Blake for the stupid decision making the trades of iafallo etc. but now it’s fine we have now acquired some players that’ll definitely fill in his spots
Yeah not sure why people are praising the Kings for what they did here. Like I highlighted, Kupari, Iafollo, Vilardi, 2nd rnd 2024 pick, and PLD for Darcy Kuemper, not great
Well, as an arm chair player, I think PLD is just straight up lazy. Now, you might object to that statement, but lets be real....if you mess up in one market, sure that happens. If you mess up in 2, ok....if you mess up in every single market you enter? Thats just a lazy player, get the money, check out. I think PLD is exactly that kind of player. Honestly, I think he should be kicked to the curb and let some younger, hungrier, willing to play their worth players in. He has has enough chances.
Columbus was because Torts is not the coach for everyone and clearly he didn’t mesh well with PLD, in Winnipeg he was solid and played quite well, and LA there was a slight lack of effort but the coaching staff put him in tough situations, I think he can be lazy at times but it’s not that bad
PLD wanted out of Winnipeg and wanted to play for the Habs, no question! Habs didn’t want to pay for him and LA stepped up with a ridiculous overpay that Chevy couldn’t refuse,lol! Thanks LA!
Give him minutes? Wtf is this? Entitlement city? All three players traded from the Kings had more effort than PLD. You earn your minutes. If you're making 8.5 a year it shouldn't matter who's around you. You wanted the man paycheck but dont wanna be the man. PLD is washed.
Great Video, as usual, Jimmy. I think that you've got to give a lot of criticism to Torts. Both Patrik Laine & he had troubles with John Tortorella/Torts in Columbus. Let me know what you think
I like Torts but his coaching style if built for a different era of hockey. Players seem to be gravitating more towards the good guy coach over the hard edged ones. For Laine and PLD clearly they don't respond to his style, which is fine but tough when neither the coach or player is willing to compromise
@@jimmyhockey Thank You for your comment & response. I agree that Torts is A Terrific Coach & can get Results (as he did with The Bad Philadelphia Flyers team, the past season), however, having said that, it's not that I don't think that he's got to press the guys, but, I think that he's got to find a way to relate to the players & get the results without the Anger Management issues that he seems to have, even in interviews with The Media/Next Question comments. I think that it's really the reason Cam Atkinson & Ryan Johansen don't want to play for him & parted ways with The Philadelphia Flyers. Let me know what you think
PLD is going to drag the Caps down, Ovi is going to score even LESS than he did last season, Caps will NOT make the playoffs. Ovi signs with the NYR and breaks the needle nosed pricks' record at MSG in a blueshirt in Jan '26 then IMMEDIATELY retires the next game.
Why do people say small market teams can’t sign stars? It’s such lazy journalism! PLD got 60 points once and he’s a star the jets couldn’t re sign? LOL! No problem signing multiple players producing more than 60 points a season, one of the best defencemen in the league and a multiple vezina winning best goalie in the NHL. Listening to people from Edmonton talking about nobody wanting to play in a small market with cold weather is pretty funny
nhl paycheck for a beer league ringer. when you can notice a player coasting out of 12 players and 4 referees/linesman on the ice, in every game, oh hell nah. get the grifter off the ice. I think once he got the bag, and the grift secured, he don't gaf. Rob Blake, stop surfing in that dirty Pacific ocean and getting hit on the head at beach volleyball. what were you thinking?
At the end of the longest day, I am glad it's over. All in all, thank you PLD for causing L A to soul-search and re-beef. I am ready for my team to take back it's cup and become the beast it needs to be , amen.
P L Diva, Columbus found out, here in Winnipeg we found out, we fleeced LA on that trade and they found out, now Washington will too. Dude is a cancer to any team he touches.
the fact that rob blake still hs a job after the biggest bungle of a trade since ottawa and mika zibannejad is a testament of how inept the kings are ran since their last cup... also i give pld 2 seasons before he wants out of washington
It was evident that PLD has a low learning curve. He coasts the perimeter with his stick horizontal and is never ready for the puck. He had the minutes, he just never performed to expectations or his pay scale.
The LA Kings gutted themselves to add Dubois. Who didn't see that coming? Besides LA I mean. At his best he is a 3/4 of a point a game 25 goal player. He has done that, his best, three times in his seven year NHL career. he struggled in his last year in Columbus, during his first year in winnipeg and in his first year in LA. he will probably work fine on a team in Washington that is just looking to feed Ovechkin and is going to be terrible again. His one moment of playoff glory came versus the Leafs. You redraft the 2016 draft and he goes 17th to Nashville behind carter hart ahead of Ross Colton.
I don't like when fans call guys a bust This guy is still a top 6 Center on a NHL team finished playing World Championships for Canada. Has put up 60+ pts. It's not a failure to me yes he doesn't try,yes he didn't show loyalty and cares more about money and location. Reminds me of the EvanderKane hate and DanyHeatley back in day. How many hockey players grow up wanting get drafted,make millions,play NHL/pro hockey,Represent country WJC/WC,and is only 26yrs old. Yes he's not a McDavid,McKinnon,Crosby but it's not like he was drafted never played or got a regular job,isn't talented or gets to do what is a dream of many hockey players. Even say a 1st round pick who still gets to play pro either I KHL/NHL/NLA make 150k plus a year I don't consider a bust they are still living their dream. And making more then us regular folk.
I'm expecting a bounce back. The second half of last year PLD was playing good enough that I picked him up onto my fantasy hockey roster. With top six minutes he should be back to a 60+ point player.
Very true, people seem to miss that LA had him playing 3rd or 4th line minutes most of the year, Washington will have more opportunities for him and I expect him to look more like he did in Winnipeg
The LA Kings never should of traded for him. He wasn't wanted in Columbus or Winnipeg. Why would Blake make that trade? He gave up a bunch of talent for a lazy under performing player. Not happy in LA! Go Kings Go!
Yes he was bad for the Kings. But the Kings are already on the road to recovery. What I can't figure out is why Washington or any team would want him now.
Because he still is a good hockey player, he isn’t even two years removed from a 60 point season and if he is placed in the right system who knows. For a team like Washington they are taking the risk because they need better center play with all of their injuries and this could work out for them in the end
Washington trading for him gave the kings a huge lifeline. If I was the owner of washington I would fire the GM the second I heard of this trade. What in the world was washingotn thinking.
Washington is in a limbo period, their roster is aging and they have no center help. The team wants to be competitive until Ovi retires, but they just don't have the makeup. They signed Kuemper to that terrible deal and wanted to dish off the contract which is why is was one bad deal for another swap. Not a bad move, risky, but not bad given their current situation
@@jimmyhockey could just be the French talking. Here, any francophone is considered the next lafleur so anyone not living up to that standard is a bust. But he has a record of laziness and sub standard play vs hos wages and potential.
He will have 25 goals and 40 assists, and play 17 minutes a night. He only played 15 minutes in LA and not much pp time. In Washington he will have a good year.
I think pld will have a come back year because his back is against the wall. Also the expectations with Washington will be less. They aren't a cup contender.
His back was up against the wall in LA and that didn't turn him around. Jim Fox always struggled to find positive things to comment on PLD. He would say things like, "I have been told, that PLD skates faster than he looks."
He is a lesser Yashin. Maybe a 1/4 of one. He got his contract and now mails it in every 3 games out of 4. Talented? Yes! Lazy? Entitled? Yes. I am ok with players that look afyer #1. Can't fault that. But he is never committed to anything but his contract.
All they needed was a goalie which they very easily could’ve gotten at the deadline had PLD panned out. Remember they were expecting him to come in and be at lease a 60 point player with a ton of upside
Who do you blame for the failure between Pierre Luc Dubois and the Los Angeles Kings? Let me know if you think PLD will have a bounce back year with the Washington Capitals!
I think it's a weird situation, he definitely has effort issues but the kings playstyle did not open up for him to do what he wanted to do. Also, the caps are not a veteran team bro, only Carlson, Dowd, Wilson and Ovi, the rest lack experience or have not been in the league very long.
What hurts is the fact we gave up Patrick laine for him !!!
he is a spineless figurant,so many other guy would fight for a chance to play in the NHL and this dude floats around the ice grabbing a few millions on the way.
IF he flies with the capitals it will be a black eye to a few organizations.
PLD mostly. But the Kings were utilizing players poorly last year, and there seems to be some issue now between the Kings and Kaliyev.
PLD is hockeys Tin Man. He’s got every tool it takes to be a star except for a heart.
Maybe this will be the time he finds it. After receiving so much criticism I’m sure he will play with a bit more edge this year
That’s a great analogy…he has too many moments where it looks like he has a job vs the honour of playing in the NHL.
Absolutely, could be easily a PPG player if only he had the desire. Pathetic as many kids would kill for his talent.
Truth
He has no will to compete, and will never live up to that contract. Watching him in LA, he doesn’t care enough. Good on L.A. for dumping him. Third liner at best.
No, not good on LA, they pissed away a pile of assets for a player everyone knew was a cancer, then gave him way too much money. Rob Blake should be fired, period
Iafollo, Vilardi, Kupari, Dubois, and. 2nd round draft pick in 2024 for Darcy Kuemper, not so good on LA
@@jimmyhockey granted, being able to get out from under that contract and turn it into a useful goalie which they needed, was masterful and likely what will save his job, lol
He and Laine
@@realtalk5931 They are ironically similar
As a Kings fan, my frustration grew to the point where I'd specifically watch PLD when he was on the ice to see what was happening. The guy avoided the puck at all costs. It was incredibly rare that he'd bury his head and give 100% skating effort to make a play. There were even times when the other team had a breakaway, PLD was the closest guy, yet another teammate further back made it to the action. It was absolute insanity to see how little effort he put in. There were rare flashes of brilliance where he'd undress the other team's defense, and those are the plays that gave false hope. If I looked at the entire season, I'd say he gave 40% effort. As a Kings fan since the 80's, PLD is the only player that I wouldn't want to meet in person and get an autograph. I'm so happy he got traded.
Oh yeah, and don't forget how he would always literally point out his defensive assignments for other players to cover, as if he was out there just coaching his teammates.
As an LA kings fan, I was optimistic when we first got him. He played good to start, then you see the lazy plays. The flashes of brilliance come out too. It's about time people realize that after 3 teams, maybe its not the environment, maybe it is the player and just being flat out lazy. He has been in 3 different hockey environments, 2 contenders and still the same things get said over and over again. You really can't defend him anymore at this point.
Yep. I'll be honestly surprised if anything changes in Washington.
He’s a nhl be a pro player, almost every opportunity I got, I asked for a trade 😂😂😂😂
As a Ducks fan, I wish he stayed on your team =)
I think he was solid with the Jets though. Columbus he was young and with Torts who knows what really happened. LA seemed like the low point of his career, if the same thing happens in Washington then yes its probably and attitude/effort issue with PLD
The unfortunate mix of talent and bad attitude
I promise you PLD was not a fan favourite in Winnipeg lmao. Although we’re very grateful LA gave up everything to have the privilege of overpaying him
Shhhh nobody wants to play there lol
I think a lot of fans liked him, there was no issues until he allegedly requested a trade
I don’t think he was hated or loved. He made it pretty clear signing long term in Winnipeg. He played well in Winnipeg just bellow Lianes points filled the role. Managed to give himself value and we got fan favourite valardi for him.
Didn’t hate his time on the Jets tbh but valardi is king
@jimmyhockey We liked having a second line center, but he never lived up to being a third overall pick.
You still think LA gave up a lot to acquire PLD. The trade was Villardi for PLD essentially. And Villardi is made of glass. Good luck!
PLD has always been the problem. The Kings forgot the Cardinal Rule of relationships, whether business or personal: You date the stripper, you never marry the stripper".
He’s not the sole problem, it’s about the system and of course PLD needing to give effort. The Kings were not setting him up for success and he wasn’t playing with 100% effort, just seemed like a poor fit
@@jimmyhockey For me. 100% effort is non-negotiable, especially when you're making millions of dollars.
@@jimmyhockey IMHO...he must earn top line spot. And he never did. $ 8 million to watch him refuse to back check. You must earn the top 6
@@jimmyhockeycalling him the sole problem seems like the lazy answer but in his case it's correct
@@jimmyhockey Just amazed that the kings got him to play him as a 3rd center, He was not going to replace Kopitar or Danault.
Moving in PLD to your organization these days would be like moving in a girl to your home that just got dumped by three different guys in short order. Probably something you might want to reconsider.🤔
The thing with PLD is that he simply doesn’t love the game of hockey. It’s an actual job for him. I’ve never seen someone play with no passion or energy in my entire life. It was infuriating
I saw an interview...sorry but I cant remember the retired baseball player...he was a good solid pro but not a superstar. He said he had a good career, but he hated to play baseball. He said " I just happened to be really good at it " . He made a shit ton of money doing something he couldnt give a rats ass about.
As a jets fan I was pissed when we traded for him....then super excited when I heard what the LA Kings gave us for him
PLD is a lazy diva. No business in NHL.
I remember reading articles from LA Kings scribes saying that PLD was going to be a crucial element in shutting down one of McDavid or Draisitl, should the Oilers and Kings meet in the playoffs. I then read even more articles saying the same thing when the Oilers and Kings were locked in a 1st round matchup for the 3rd year in a row. What's funny is that, not only did he NOT shut down McDavid or Draisitl, he got shut down...BY RYAN MCLEOD!
...and took dumb penalties
Its his play away from the puck. Hes the last guy to back check. Lazy, Not a 2 way player at all. Caps will find out fast.
Their coach will get the most out of him, seems like a good influence on the Caps. LA is not innocent here they for sure left him to dry in a lot of different scenarios. This will be his prove it year.
It’s crazy how the media before all the Tortorella drama hyped this guy up like he was the best center in the league 😂
He definitely had the potential size and skill wise to be talked about as a very good center not a generational talent or anything though
Imo the problem is his attitude. Not a character guy
I won't speak on that, I don't know him personally and this is solely based on rumors. I haven't seen players or coaches talk poorly about him outside of tortsy
He simply did not fit in with thee Kings' 1-3-1 system.
Ironically, the team is trying to change to another, more creative system after Dubois
is now gone.
Chris Chelios watched him in action last year and said as a tv commentater, "He's talented. He's big and skates well. But I just don't see a pulse there."
That could be part of the problem too.
Whats funny to me is PLD always wanted to go to the Canadiens, but it was Laine whom he got traded with who went to the Canadiens.
It all started when they traded Quick in the middle of the night. Since that day it’s been sketchy up in the offices.
There is a clip in the la kings training camp series where he meets todd maclelland on the ice and he tells the coach he “only likes positive reinforcement because he already knows when he’s done something wrong” (paraphrased). That tells you all you need to know, a grown “man” telling his coach to only tell him the good things he’s done not the bad….
Heard rumors he was out drinking and doing karaoke with Talbot and Lizotte a few days after they got eliminated and I'd imagine that pissed Blake off more than he already was. I defended him all year and gave him the benefit of the doubt. I thought this dude was gonna impact some games come playoff time but couldn't be further from the truth. IMO he lost his love of the game and does just enough to get by like your average worker does.
Karaoke?! God forbid..Should they have been in mourning??
@@theScotian24 yep
Hi, I'm Nobody Important in Hamilton. If PLD found that it stinks in Columbus and it stinks in Winnipeg and in L.A. maybe the stink is deep in him. Like under his nose.
I don’t think he felt Winnipeg or La Stunk, I think with Winnipeg he wanted a long deal and they didn’t want to pay him, and LA clearly things just weren’t a good fit for either party
The Kings got fleeced just like his previous three teams. Dudes effort is less than acceptable.
As a Kings fan, I was hyped up for him. I heard all of the negative comments about him, but I dismissed it as, he was learning a new system, he was now playing on the 3rd line with bottom 6 players when he should have been on the second line. And after the all star break, it seemed like he was back to being a force. Unfortunately, my assumption of him was completely wrong. I don’t wish anything bad to him and hope he has a successful career playing for Washington, New Jersey, NYI, Buffalo, Nashville, Seattle, Calgary, Utah and Ducks.
Dean Lombardi would never let this guy on the Kings let alone give up a young player like Gabe Vilardi.
Lazy is lazy it doesn't matter were you are at , it's a statement of character and PLD has none.
Bergevin. He is to blame in LA.
Good point
Robitaille too...he was lobbying hard to get PLD
The best Rob Blake trade in Kings history was Rob Blake getting out from under the worst Rob Blake trade in Kings history acquiring PLD in the first place. He'll bomb in Washington; last one back on D every shift, he is a 1-dimensional player hard on offense huge liability on D, worse yet a very selfish player taking selfish penalties who is all mouth and no fists, challenging opponents but won't drop the gloves, going to a team that is more O than D for a bad fit, he will never be their first line center as you can't have 2 O first players with Ovy and PLD on the same line so he will cop an attitude as he always has and underperform as usual and will get bought out eventually, move to Hawaii, buy a mansion on the beach and laugh all the way to the bank. Tortorelli had him pegged. Darcy stood on his head last night glad to see him back, the boy knows how to square up, a bargain at $5M. Let's hope they treat him better than they did Quickie, we had to give up a first rounder to get rid of a Cup MVP??????? Then Quick stands on his head in Vegas the last 10 games of the regular season after goalie injuries and gets another ring going for #4 with the Rangers Touche!!! Hopefully ownership will now dump Blake, he is terrible at judging talent, Byfield at #2 didn't take Stützle, no contact figure skater Turcotte at #5, can't skate Clake at #8, Blake has to go!!!!!!!!!!
I generally gave him a break on the “effort” because it’s possible that he’s just that efficient, that it looks like he’s not trying, but he is. On the other hand, he was WAY TOO EASILY bumped off the puck, especially on the boards. But that’s where “lack of effort” came in. I would NEVER see him make an effort to get the puck back once he was EASILY bumped off. I think that’s all the fans wanted: a hint of fight in the guy. I never saw it.
Also, I would watch the bench to see if he was chatting with other players. I think the guy was on an island. I wonder if he lacks social skills or his teammates just get pissed due to his lack of effort. It’s pure speculation, but I always suspected he had trouble developing relationships with his teammates because they viewed him as a primadona.
PLD is a lazy bump. He fleeced the Kings on his contract and they did well to not fall prey to the sunk cost fallacy and moved off him as best they could. They likely would've been a far better team had they not traded for him. Your comments are what they said when he came to Los Angeles. As soon as he has a little adversity, his true colors will show. He's talented, but unwilling to work hard for success
I've been a King's fan since 1974. The onus falls on Rob Blake. PLD wasn't the only 'mistake' Blake has done. He gave a giant contract to goaltender Peterson who played like crap after the contract. Blake dumped him to Philly. Blake has been a nightmare. PLD was toxic in the locker room as I see it. All that to get Kemper who was got rid of several years ago. #epicfailure
Getting rid of PLD was the best move Blake made in the off season. He was a cancer on the ice and in the locker room. Kings are much better without him.
"Lazy" isn't quite the right word for him. A lazy guy won't spend enough time in the gym to even get to the NHL. He's not unwilling to work, he just doesn't have the inner compete level or the desire of an NHL player. He knows you want him to be first on pucks, win battles, recover pucks, and go full out. The problem is he just doesn't agree that that's what he should be doing. He thinks that the way he's playing is correct. It's obvious he thinks/sees the game in a way where he'll just stand straight up and watch it unfold around him. And it's obvious he's very secure and confident in doing what he thinks is right, regardless of the consequences. I think they only way he ever reaches his potential is through hypnotherapy.
They also gave up Sean durzi to acquire the 2nd in the pld trade
Yeah the package they gave the Jets is what really makes this one hurt
I dont think PLD's ego will tolerate feeding an aging and flat footed Ovi for very long. By December we'll be hearing about some drama going on with him.
Love these types of videos Jimmy, keep up the great work!
Thanks! Appreciate the kind words🙏🏻
His mom and dad never made him accountable when growing up as he outlined in some interviews-so go figure
From anecdotal stories I've heard about him (take with a strong grain of salt), I've heard that he's just an introverted guy who doesn't really fit in with the hockey bro locker room cultures conmon across teams and that he's a guy who's just not really motivated by personal accolades that much.
I don't know how that will affect his tenure with the Caps but at the very least playing with the star power of Ovi could help him reach his potential a bit more.
Not sure about all of that. I do agree that Ovi and his leadership should inspire PLD though. Either way he will be given better opportunities in Washington so his production should go up
Dubois got Torterella as a rookie, got sent to winnipeg and then signed a nb 1 center contract to play as a 3rd liner center. Most people would have trouble with this.
The kings mismanaged this.
@@haraldgriefbacon1373 Some players need constant reinforcement and motivation, some players only work with people yelling at them.
The king's locker room hierarchy seems pretty set in stone .
I honestly just think he needs a solid mentor/friend. @@MrDecelles
The problem with PLD like all superstars where their egos sometimes overrule their talents and blame everyone else but themselves
Nah, you're talking about NBA players, not NHL players.
To me, he’s like the girlfriend who always cheats and the new boyfriend thinks that he can change her and now the Washington Capitals are the new boyfriend. I’m actually a fan of his but at some point it’s on him.
There’s some contracts you see get signed and you go “uhhhhhhhh why” and PLD to LA was one of those, we knew that ship was gonna sink but we didn’t think it was after year 1. I hope he gets bought out and doesn’t play in the NHL again, this guy is a clown
I never root against players, that just seems silly. PLD was perfect for the Kings on paper, just not great when it actually happened. I think he will have a bounce back year and will be in a good position with the caps
The Kings gave him a chance… they played him at C or even wing on every line and in the power play. They tried him with Fiala, Danault, Moore, Byfield, and others. No chemistry.
I came away from that season not even sure what Dubois is actually *good* at. He’s not fast, he’s not a sniper, he doesn’t have excellent passing vision, he didn’t make crazy dekes, he’s not overly physical, he’s not a defensive wizard… I really never knew why the Kings wanted him in the first place!
I think he is a big bodied center who plays well in system hockey. Basically when he is giving his full effort he is a solid middle six guy who is average at all the things you listed, that was something the Kings felt would benefit their team
jet fan here
pierre-luc Dubois showed flashes of Brilliance and ditto laZiness in Winnipeg and clb
he struggled in LA
he will need caps coach sc for modivation and trust
i can't believe wash took this trade
As a caps fan and I am excited to have him
You should be! I’m expecting a big bounce back year
@trisgilmour ditto
Let us know how that works out for ya!
This will age poorly. Check back at Christmas
@@trisgilmour
Sorry bud, you ain’t excited. You’re just desperate for any jolt that might keep the ovi era alive.
Laine never should have left the Jets
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Could there be a more hated guy? He's an ABSOLUTE bust! He reminds me of Semin with his attitude. Dubios will be gone as fast as Yakapov was.
PLD is a lazy baby.
Great work man. Really like your channel. Keep it up 👍🏼
Thanks, appreciate it
His second year in The Peg he really found his niche. LA had him on the wing and never gave him the 2C spot letting Daneault play ahead of him. Then the minutes shifted to Byfield and it was curtains.
So much talent. Frustrating why it never works out for him. Why???
Isn't it ironic that PLD wanted to go to the habs, but now Laine is playing for them? 😅
It's projecting to say PLD's trade destroyed the Kings' chances for Cup contention in the playoffs. The Kings, with no 1C, no 1D and no 1G never had a chance. The moment they let go of Dean Lombardi in 2020, they should have been looking at a total rebuild within a couple years.
$8.5mill
Wow. Up there with the outrageous Benn/Huberdeau/Nurse/Jones contracts.
Thats a F ton of money for a 3rd/4th liner.
He’s definitely a bit overpayed based on his production from last year
PLD didn’t ask for a trade he just said he wouldn’t sign another contract with Winnipeg. After that he was not a fan favourite here.
Im from Peg there was no question he asked for a trade, it was widely reported. That said Chevy does make sure the contact is worth it.
In hindsight Chevy made the right call and got some great players for it
Never have I been more sad and mad that someone with talent just absolutely SQUANDERING everything handed to him. Sid still does ridiculous drills in the summer. I don't know if he likes being a hockey player. He hasn't proven anything since his sophomore season. All in all disappointed
For the Kings it’s Rob Blake for the stupid decision making the trades of iafallo etc. but now it’s fine we have now acquired some players that’ll definitely fill in his spots
We Caps fans are thankful to get PLD off the scrap heap. He's looking great & fills a huge hole at 2C.
That’s amazing
The kings will pat themselves on the back by trading him and even getting a half decent goalie in return.
They gave him 8.5🤦♂️
Embarrassing
La was a better team with Vilardi and Iafallo. They also gave up a second round pick which is gross.
Yeah not sure why people are praising the Kings for what they did here. Like I highlighted, Kupari, Iafollo, Vilardi, 2nd rnd 2024 pick, and PLD for Darcy Kuemper, not great
Well, as an arm chair player, I think PLD is just straight up lazy. Now, you might object to that statement, but lets be real....if you mess up in one market, sure that happens. If you mess up in 2, ok....if you mess up in every single market you enter? Thats just a lazy player, get the money, check out. I think PLD is exactly that kind of player. Honestly, I think he should be kicked to the curb and let some younger, hungrier, willing to play their worth players in. He has has enough chances.
Columbus was because Torts is not the coach for everyone and clearly he didn’t mesh well with PLD, in Winnipeg he was solid and played quite well, and LA there was a slight lack of effort but the coaching staff put him in tough situations, I think he can be lazy at times but it’s not that bad
PLD wanted out of Winnipeg and wanted to play for the Habs, no question! Habs didn’t want to pay for him and LA stepped up with a ridiculous overpay that Chevy couldn’t refuse,lol! Thanks LA!
Also, despite it being a bad trade… the kings only lost injury riddled Vilardi who has only played 45 games in a season once. He was gone regardless.
Give him minutes? Wtf is this? Entitlement city? All three players traded from the Kings had more effort than PLD. You earn your minutes. If you're making 8.5 a year it shouldn't matter who's around you. You wanted the man paycheck but dont wanna be the man. PLD is washed.
Great Video, as usual, Jimmy. I think that you've got to give a lot of criticism to Torts. Both Patrik Laine & he had troubles with John Tortorella/Torts in Columbus. Let me know what you think
I like Torts but his coaching style if built for a different era of hockey. Players seem to be gravitating more towards the good guy coach over the hard edged ones. For Laine and PLD clearly they don't respond to his style, which is fine but tough when neither the coach or player is willing to compromise
@@jimmyhockey Thank You for your comment & response. I agree that Torts is A Terrific Coach & can get Results (as he did with The Bad Philadelphia Flyers team, the past season), however, having said that, it's not that I don't think that he's got to press the guys, but, I think that he's got to find a way to relate to the players & get the results without the Anger Management issues that he seems to have, even in interviews with The Media/Next Question comments. I think that it's really the reason Cam Atkinson & Ryan Johansen don't want to play for him & parted ways with The Philadelphia Flyers. Let me know what you think
Nice video boss , I enjoy your vids .
Glad you like them!
Not every player who gets drafted deserves to be there.. the draft is usually a bust and more teams shouldn't rely upon it to build a team
PLD is going to drag the Caps down, Ovi is going to score even LESS than he did last season, Caps will NOT make the playoffs. Ovi signs with the NYR and breaks the needle nosed pricks' record at MSG in a blueshirt in Jan '26 then IMMEDIATELY retires the next game.
I can almost guarantee none of this will happen
Why do people say small market teams can’t sign stars? It’s such lazy journalism! PLD got 60 points once and he’s a star the jets couldn’t re sign? LOL! No problem signing multiple players producing more than 60 points a season, one of the best defencemen in the league and a multiple vezina winning best goalie in the NHL. Listening to people from Edmonton talking about nobody wanting to play in a small market with cold weather is pretty funny
nhl paycheck for a beer league ringer. when you can notice a player coasting out of 12 players and 4 referees/linesman on the ice, in every game, oh hell nah. get the grifter off the ice. I think once he got the bag, and the grift secured, he don't gaf. Rob Blake, stop surfing in that dirty Pacific ocean and getting hit on the head at beach volleyball. what were you thinking?
At the end of the longest day, I am glad it's over. All in all, thank you PLD for causing L A to soul-search and re-beef. I am ready for my team to take back it's cup and become the beast it needs to be , amen.
Ovie will put him in his place and make him act right. Ovie got him lol
I like the pairing
I can totally see that. 😂
P L Diva, Columbus found out, here in Winnipeg we found out, we fleeced LA on that trade and they found out, now Washington will too. Dude is a cancer to any team he touches.
As a Kings fan, I knew this deal was crap and it turned out worse than I imagined
the fact that rob blake still hs a job after the biggest bungle of a trade since ottawa and mika zibannejad is a testament of how inept the kings are ran since their last cup... also i give pld 2 seasons before he wants out of washington
You forgot to mention that Kuemper is on his second stint with the Kings.
And don't forget that the Kings traded Durzi for a second round pick because they knew they couldn't sign him with PLD coming.
Need to tell him every game that there is a scout from Montreal watching him to get the best version!
he just got absolutely smoked by the Providence Bruins
It was evident that PLD has a low learning curve. He coasts the perimeter with his stick horizontal and is never ready for the puck. He had the minutes, he just never performed to expectations or his pay scale.
The LA Kings gutted themselves to add Dubois. Who didn't see that coming? Besides LA I mean.
At his best he is a 3/4 of a point a game 25 goal player. He has done that, his best, three times in his seven year NHL career.
he struggled in his last year in Columbus, during his first year in winnipeg and in his first year in LA.
he will probably work fine on a team in Washington that is just looking to feed Ovechkin and is going to be terrible again. His one moment of playoff glory came versus the Leafs.
You redraft the 2016 draft and he goes 17th to Nashville behind carter hart ahead of Ross Colton.
I don't like when fans call guys a bust
This guy is still a top 6 Center on a NHL team finished playing World Championships for Canada. Has put up 60+ pts.
It's not a failure to me yes he doesn't try,yes he didn't show loyalty and cares more about money and location. Reminds me of the EvanderKane hate and DanyHeatley back in day.
How many hockey players grow up wanting get drafted,make millions,play NHL/pro hockey,Represent country WJC/WC,and is only 26yrs old. Yes he's not a McDavid,McKinnon,Crosby but it's not like he was drafted never played or got a regular job,isn't talented or gets to do what is a dream of many hockey players.
Even say a 1st round pick who still gets to play pro either I KHL/NHL/NLA make 150k plus a year I don't consider a bust they are still living their dream. And making more then us regular folk.
I'm expecting a bounce back. The second half of last year PLD was playing good enough that I picked him up onto my fantasy hockey roster. With top six minutes he should be back to a 60+ point player.
Very true, people seem to miss that LA had him playing 3rd or 4th line minutes most of the year, Washington will have more opportunities for him and I expect him to look more like he did in Winnipeg
I respect your right to be wrong. He’s broken. Soft mentally and bugger all work ethic
@@jimmyhockey
How’s that that an excuse? lol
If he practiced hard and showed some Dam fight he’d get more minutes.
Love your channel though btw. 🤣
Do I need to give you more ice time so you can score more or are you gonna score more so I can give you more ice time?
The LA Kings never should of traded for him. He wasn't wanted in Columbus or Winnipeg. Why would Blake make that trade? He gave up a bunch of talent for a lazy under performing player. Not happy in LA! Go Kings Go!
Yes he was bad for the Kings. But the Kings are already on the road to recovery. What I can't figure out is why Washington or any team would want him now.
Because he still is a good hockey player, he isn’t even two years removed from a 60 point season and if he is placed in the right system who knows. For a team like Washington they are taking the risk because they need better center play with all of their injuries and this could work out for them in the end
Washington trading for him gave the kings a huge lifeline. If I was the owner of washington I would fire the GM the second I heard of this trade. What in the world was washingotn thinking.
Washington is in a limbo period, their roster is aging and they have no center help. The team wants to be competitive until Ovi retires, but they just don't have the makeup. They signed Kuemper to that terrible deal and wanted to dish off the contract which is why is was one bad deal for another swap. Not a bad move, risky, but not bad given their current situation
Ovechkin will either inspire him or break him. Either way, PLB is a bigger bust than chucky…barring the felony convictions.
Bust is strong, its really only one bad season. I expect a bounce back, sometimes things don't work out, but you should always root for the players
@@jimmyhockey could just be the French talking. Here, any francophone is considered the next lafleur so anyone not living up to that standard is a bust. But he has a record of laziness and sub standard play vs hos wages and potential.
It’s funny that people think OV is a leader.
Kind of reminds me of Alexandre Daigle
He will have 25 goals and 40 assists, and play 17 minutes a night. He only played 15 minutes in LA and not much pp time. In Washington he will have a good year.
Definitely a better situation in Washington for him to get more PP time and TOI
Still think he would flourish under Marty St Louis. Back where he wanted to be in the first place.
I think he will thrive in Washington if he wants to. But in Montreal I’m not sure especially with them having Laine now
Just a locker room cancer
So happy Habs management didn't get fooled like the French fanbase and media clamoring for him
As soon as the Caps start losing, he'll disappear as usual. He's in for a long 7 years if he stays there!
PLD is a virus to every team he plays for.
I think pld will have a come back year because his back is against the wall. Also the expectations with Washington will be less. They aren't a cup contender.
All true, he has to show that he can work well with a team for more than two years, I think he found the perfect situation to do that
His back was up against the wall in LA and that didn't turn him around. Jim Fox always struggled to find positive things to comment on PLD. He would say things like, "I have been told, that PLD skates faster than he looks."
PLD reminds me of Jason Bonsignore.
I hated when the habs fans were so desperate for PLD, dodged a bullet!
Pierre lived in the suite beside mine in Winnipeg. He's a cool dude. Smoked lots of weed with him lol
That explains a few things. 😂
How many stars does Wpg need to sign before that narrative gets retired.
Scheiffele
Connor
Helle
Come on dude.
He is a lesser Yashin. Maybe a 1/4 of one. He got his contract and now mails it in every 3 games out of 4. Talented? Yes! Lazy? Entitled? Yes.
I am ok with players that look afyer #1. Can't fault that. But he is never committed to anything but his contract.
did you say "adding to their cup ready roster" LMFAO bro LA was nowhere near cup ready roster when they added PLD wow lol
Incompetent management thought they were though
All they needed was a goalie which they very easily could’ve gotten at the deadline had PLD panned out. Remember they were expecting him to come in and be at lease a 60 point player with a ton of upside
Heavily underestimating the LA Kings
I agree with you, but I never heard anyone else saying that
Rob Blake is to blame.
For the trade yes, everything else was just a bad fit