Not just bigger, but faster too. At the very least they could've used a SSHD. A Blu-Ray drive costs around 60 quid and up, new. Especially considering a 7200rpm and up HD/SSHD upgrade wouldn't leave much of an impact of that 60 quid (at minimum) saving.
Microsoft dropped a massive ball by not: A) Reducing the price to $200; or B) Keeping it at $250 but increasing the HDD to 7200 RPM and a minimum of 2TB Since they did neither option, they made their own product pointless.
You should also note, they left the headers on for the optical drive. You can actually plug one in. Will it work? No, looks like they've dropped something in the firmware that won't even look at those headers.
Optical media is one of the only reasons I prefer console gaming, since I can buy cheap used games this way that have no internet based DRM. So it will still work in a couple of years time. Taking away the drive just turns it in another device that can only be used for a few years at best and will eventually be rendered useless. Just look at the Wii Store. Sure, the Wii was old, but refusing access to titles one had previously bought is just unacceptable and something that will repeat itself for any such service.
If you do end up switching to PC someday, take a look at GOG. You actually own the game, not just a temp licence that can be revoked (at any time), and their's zero DRM. Hell, it's perfectly legal for you to burn a copy of the game and put it on your bookshelf to look at like classic games before the internet age of gaming.
I don't know how that's going to work " in a couple of years time" because, like I said elsewhere, games are now being released in parts: a great chunk of the game is released on disc while a considerable part of the game is distributed online via patches and game updates... GT6 has 10GB of patches and game updates that rely on Sony queeping their servers up because Sony doesn't officially allow for offline updates. If Sony discontinues PSN for PS3, I still don't know how people are going to play their games if their HDD fails and then need to reinstall the game with the updates and there's no PSN...
I don't know how that's going to work " in a couple of years time" because, like I said elsewhere, games are now being released in parts: a great chunk of the game is released on disc while a considerable part of the game is distributed online via patches and game updates... GT6 has 10GB of patches and game updates that rely on Sony queeping their servers up because Sony doesn't officially allow for offline updates. If Sony discontinues PSN for PS3, I still don't know how people are going to play their games if their HDD fails and then need to reinstall the game with the updates and there's no PSN...
Unfortunately, you can't simply do that. It's been a while, but you also need to format the drive correctly using various Linux tools. I don't know if there are size limitations as well. In previous versions of the Xbox, you needed to buy drives at specific sizes and get firmware that matched. Ie, at the time, you couldn't use a 120gb drive if all Microsoft had released was an 80gb and lower. But it's been a few years since I've done an Xbox hard drive upgrade, so things have more than likely changed.
@@avaviel I don't see why you can't do that, raw image cloning will resulted in the new disk looks exactly like the old disk, ofc you'll need repartitioning to use extra disk space of the new disk has but it would still boot up just fine, unless they enforce software limit on something like BIOS to only allow a specific disk model/serial
@@pierreuntel1970 That's the popular belief, however, that doesn't always work. There's a new script two format the drive correctly, and an official Microsoft download to copy to it. betanews.com/2018/01/04/upgrade-xbox-one-x-hdd-to-a-2tb-sshd/
SandPox Not sure about the specifics, but I recall users having bricked their hard drives (using the clone method) when the Xbox One did an update. Not sure how it happened, I didn't go too deep, but I do remember some complaints over the years. It can likely be fixed easily, but I suppose that's not really worth the risk considering you're dealing with people's data.
@@avaviel it might be a software limitation that it couldn't run a larger drive . I think going from 1TB HDD to 1TB SSD might be possible but I can't say that the firmware would support higher capacities.
Hard drive hackery not necessary. Simply replace the hard drive (I use a 2tb ssd), download the firmware update from Microsoft onto a USB, plug it in to the console and power it on.
losing that sweet 4k hdr bluray driver, not being able to get 2 hand games or even borrow games from your friends.... damn, something tells me that MS gonna screw their next console just like they did with original xbox one
Don't be intimidated when it comes to upgrading your hard drive. To reinstall the operating system, simply follow the offline update instructions on the Xbox website. All those complex partitioning scripts you'll find online are unnecessary. Just remember that the Xbox is only capable of fully recognizing 500GB, 512GB, 1TB, and 2TB internal drives
You can find regular Xbox One S' for less than $250, which renders the disc-less one even further. Microsoft dropped a massive ball by not: A) Reducing the price to $200; or B) Keeping it at $250 but increasing the HDD to 7200 RPM and 2TB Since they did neither option, they made their own product pointless.
it seems to me as though this console was more of an experiment by Microsoft than a new console (as apparently the motherboard is the EXACT SAME as in the standard one s, but with an altered firmware so that it no longer looks for the optical drive)
They are, and have been for a long time. The problem is, with nobody wanting to prosicute a company (due to the amount of money you'd need to actually go through with proceedings) over something like this, the stickers will likely stay in place for many more years to come.
bullshit at 1:26 !!! Exchange HDD by a SSD is so simple !!! - Step one disconnect. - Step 2 Connect the SSD - step 3: plug a USB key with the Firmware on it - Step 4 run recovery mode, choose option delete all and re-install - WAit - reboot - and voila And you say it is non a easy task for beginners !!! Again !!! bullshit
If you are working on this with only a plastic spider and you are having issues removing the bottom piece in step 1 after the sticker, a kitchen butter knife does work in place of metal spider. I do not recommend it for the interior though.
Guys, please make an "Oculus GO COMPLETE Teardown" video. Everyone disassembly it until they reach the LCD panel attached to the lenses, and stop disassembling it... And I really want to know how to separate the lenses because of my IPD.... Thank you!!!
Hmm, they left the SATA and power cable connections on the motherboard. I wonder if putting a drive in is possible, or there would need to be a matching drive board for the motherboard..
My Xbox won’t turn back on, could somebody maybe give me a reason why? I followed the steps very carefully and didn’t do anything I wasn’t supposed to but nothing is working, please help 😢
Zach Berg No. It won’t support it. Even on normal (disc edition) Xbox One units, the drives cannot be swapped between units because the decryption key in the drive needs to match one stored on the main unit’s motherboard.
Anzetal Because the internal software for the console is on it. If you buy a new HDD for your computer, you need to reinstall Windows. But on Xbox - you do not have a way to install the Xbox OS onto your new HDD.
Nice teardown! Wish Microsoft would have put a bigger hard drive in it or something to make it worth buying!
Not just bigger, but faster too. At the very least they could've used a SSHD. A Blu-Ray drive costs around 60 quid and up, new. Especially considering a 7200rpm and up HD/SSHD upgrade wouldn't leave much of an impact of that 60 quid (at minimum) saving.
Then they would have made it way more expensive tho that’s the problem
@@apzrn2735 at least we know now why they did what they did,
They wanted to see how a all digital console would sell for future references ( series s)
@@joshrichter3391 not really a fan of digital games tbh only benefit is no switch disc and less waste made
Microsoft dropped a massive ball by not:
A) Reducing the price to $200; or
B) Keeping it at $250 but increasing the HDD to 7200 RPM and a minimum of 2TB
Since they did neither option, they made their own product pointless.
C) Making it a smaller form factor.
But I think long term they might just give these away with some kind of Gamepass plan.
Or at LEAST an SSHD!
@@next_5022 Same
Lucas how did you get it can you tell me please like the website
You should also note, they left the headers on for the optical drive. You can actually plug one in. Will it work? No, looks like they've dropped something in the firmware that won't even look at those headers.
Thank you, was looking for this information.
Everyone else: OnePlus 7
Then there is iFixit.
Optical media is one of the only reasons I prefer console gaming, since I can buy cheap used games this way that have no internet based DRM. So it will still work in a couple of years time. Taking away the drive just turns it in another device that can only be used for a few years at best and will eventually be rendered useless. Just look at the Wii Store. Sure, the Wii was old, but refusing access to titles one had previously bought is just unacceptable and something that will repeat itself for any such service.
If you do end up switching to PC someday, take a look at GOG. You actually own the game, not just a temp licence that can be revoked (at any time), and their's zero DRM. Hell, it's perfectly legal for you to burn a copy of the game and put it on your bookshelf to look at like classic games before the internet age of gaming.
I don't know how that's going to work " in a couple of years time" because, like I said elsewhere, games are now being released in parts: a great chunk of the game is released on disc while a considerable part of the game is distributed online via patches and game updates... GT6 has 10GB of patches and game updates that rely on Sony queeping their servers up because Sony doesn't officially allow for offline updates.
If Sony discontinues PSN for PS3, I still don't know how people are going to play their games if their HDD fails and then need to reinstall the game with the updates and there's no PSN...
I don't know how that's going to work " in a couple of years time" because, like I said elsewhere, games are now being released in parts: a great chunk of the game is released on disc while a considerable part of the game is distributed online via patches and game updates... GT6 has 10GB of patches and game updates that rely on Sony queeping their servers up because Sony doesn't officially allow for offline updates.
If Sony discontinues PSN for PS3, I still don't know how people are going to play their games if their HDD fails and then need to reinstall the game with the updates and there's no PSN...
*Everybody: a 2tb SSD plzzzzzz*
*Microsoft: OK its faster coz we REMOVED THE ODD*
*everyone:*
Couldn't you just clone the original hard drive using a program like Acronis TrueImage?
Unfortunately, you can't simply do that. It's been a while, but you also need to format the drive correctly using various Linux tools. I don't know if there are size limitations as well. In previous versions of the Xbox, you needed to buy drives at specific sizes and get firmware that matched. Ie, at the time, you couldn't use a 120gb drive if all Microsoft had released was an 80gb and lower.
But it's been a few years since I've done an Xbox hard drive upgrade, so things have more than likely changed.
@@avaviel I don't see why you can't do that, raw image cloning will resulted in the new disk looks exactly like the old disk, ofc you'll need repartitioning to use extra disk space of the new disk has but it would still boot up just fine, unless they enforce software limit on something like BIOS to only allow a specific disk model/serial
@@pierreuntel1970 That's the popular belief, however, that doesn't always work. There's a new script two format the drive correctly, and an official Microsoft download to copy to it.
betanews.com/2018/01/04/upgrade-xbox-one-x-hdd-to-a-2tb-sshd/
SandPox Not sure about the specifics, but I recall users having bricked their hard drives (using the clone method) when the Xbox One did an update. Not sure how it happened, I didn't go too deep, but I do remember some complaints over the years. It can likely be fixed easily, but I suppose that's not really worth the risk considering you're dealing with people's data.
@@avaviel it might be a software limitation that it couldn't run a larger drive . I think going from 1TB HDD to 1TB SSD might be possible but I can't say that the firmware would support higher capacities.
This comment section is so toxic towards this console. It's more options for people to choose to best tailor to their needs.
But... DVDs are digital
Did you guys notice the change in heatsink
Hard drive hackery not necessary. Simply replace the hard drive (I use a 2tb ssd), download the firmware update from Microsoft onto a USB, plug it in to the console and power it on.
Looks like the swapped the heatsink out with a more cost-effective one as well. The original One S had a stack of fins with two heatpipes.
1:48 Technically it´s an APU because it has both CPU and GPU combined in one chip ;)
@Seth That's the Southbridge.
You are wrong….installing the firmware is really simple.
Why all you Tubers always make it a million times more complicated than it really is?
They cheaped out on the hdd. MS could of taken the hit and given an SSD
it's spelled it "could have"
losing that sweet 4k hdr bluray driver, not being able to get 2 hand games or even borrow games from your friends.... damn, something tells me that MS gonna screw their next console just like they did with original xbox one
the days of the cds are over. Get over it.
@@Varookz He wasn't talking about CD's though. 4K Blu-Rays are the best way to experience movies.
Don't be intimidated when it comes to upgrading your hard drive. To reinstall the operating system, simply follow the offline update instructions on the Xbox website. All those complex partitioning scripts you'll find online are unnecessary.
Just remember that the Xbox is only capable of fully recognizing 500GB, 512GB, 1TB, and 2TB internal drives
My Xbox doesn't wanna budge at all, any tips?
NEED THAT TOOL TO OPEN MY XBOX WHERE CAN I BUY IT?
8 for beginners 10 for code junkies and modders
They just took off some parts to sell it at a lower price there is no point on buying it, its always better to have more options not less.
You can find regular Xbox One S' for less than $250, which renders the disc-less one even further.
Microsoft dropped a massive ball by not:
A) Reducing the price to $200; or
B) Keeping it at $250 but increasing the HDD to 7200 RPM and 2TB
Since they did neither option, they made their own product pointless.
Hard drive replacement has nothing to do with "tearing it down". That's grasping at straws and it was a 10/10.
it seems to me as though this console was more of an experiment by Microsoft than a new console (as apparently the motherboard is the EXACT SAME as in the standard one s, but with an altered firmware so that it no longer looks for the optical drive)
That first step….. take off the black plastic bottom is a pain in the nether region…..
I thought tamper proof stickers were illegal?
They are
They are, and have been for a long time. The problem is, with nobody wanting to prosicute a company (due to the amount of money you'd need to actually go through with proceedings) over something like this, the stickers will likely stay in place for many more years to come.
cant you just clone the drive?
wow that's SAD
bullshit at 1:26 !!! Exchange HDD by a SSD is so simple !!!
- Step one disconnect.
- Step 2 Connect the SSD
- step 3: plug a USB key with the Firmware on it
- Step 4 run recovery mode, choose option delete all and re-install
- WAit - reboot - and voila
And you say it is non a easy task for beginners !!!
Again !!! bullshit
How thoughtful. They included an ifixit logo under the casing.
Mine out of no where is not turning on I hit the power button and it automatically turns off in like 3 seconds can anyone help me?
they couldve put something there in the empty optical drive space to make it worth buying. to me the all digital ones just arent worth it.....
What kind of fucking screwdriver is that. I took this back off and was like damn yall forgot the most important part the damn screwdriver name
But it's useless
proprietary screws AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH XDXDXDXXDDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDD
Something from Microsoft scored more than 1😎
the optical drive connectors are still there
How’s it I’ve had my disc edition for so long and never knew the one s came as a digital editon as well lmfao
Is that's it?! All I saw was sadness inside there.
If you are working on this with only a plastic spider and you are having issues removing the bottom piece in step 1 after the sticker, a kitchen butter knife does work in place of metal spider. I do not recommend it for the interior though.
What tools I need to get it open enough to clean it out
Guys, please make an "Oculus GO COMPLETE Teardown" video. Everyone disassembly it until they reach the LCD panel attached to the lenses, and stop disassembling it... And I really want to know how to separate the lenses because of my IPD.... Thank you!!!
not able to follow this,you missed a step or something can't take top off like that.waste of my time and others,show everything
to take top off push the sides out btw
5400 RPM Hard Drive 🤦🏽no wonder the Console is $300 and replacing is not easy
Hmm, they left the SATA and power cable connections on the motherboard. I wonder if putting a drive in is possible, or there would need to be a matching drive board for the motherboard..
Is it possible to remove the blu-ray from the Xbox one s and put it in an external case for use with a computer or Xbox séries s ?
My Xbox won’t turn back on, could somebody maybe give me a reason why? I followed the steps very carefully and didn’t do anything I wasn’t supposed to but nothing is working, please help 😢
Is it working now?
@@Godzilla_Beast_of_Revelation yes thank you, I have fixed the issue. Your video was very useful in helping me understand how!
Debo cambiar el disco duro porque dejo de funcionar , debo poner uno de las mismas características o puede ser mejor ?
Saludos :)
Anyone know if it’s possible to take the hard drive out and format it to use on a pc?
Can you do a put together one
The HDD would be the last thing to die . HDDs have good life span
I can’t fuckin get it open
0:4 ehy xbox dip xbox 2020 :
Спасибо пацан! Можно подключить внешний dvd привод?
Please can i know if i can swap my xbox one s hard drive with my xbox one s all digital's hard drive...
How did it go
Why haven’t they at least put an SSD in?
Do not remove the warranty that they tell you to remove, it will void the warranty and you can't send it to Microsoft for a repair
I purchased mines frm target will i get an replacement or what?
(The sad Xbox)
Thank you so very much - exceptional video of the teardown!
Just clone the hdd with any cloning soft. And you are good to go
what are the screw sizes
Could you reflash the original S fw to this and adding an optical drive?
without a plastic case, it is more beautiful!
this xbox one s suport bluray drivers hahaha
What screwdriver do you need
Wait so you cant just remove the rear I/O plate its attached to the metal chassis?
Yep.
Ya break
Can't you just clone over the HDD?
It should be cheaper.
Im wondering if it would be possible to put a blu-ray drive in the all digital edition?
Zach Berg No. It won’t support it. Even on normal (disc edition) Xbox One units, the drives cannot be swapped between units because the decryption key in the drive needs to match one stored on the main unit’s motherboard.
@@АрсенийБабенко-е8ю I'm pretty sure that if you hard mod it you can change it the key
Zach Berg There is no “freeboot” or “RGH” mod (putting a custom dashboard/OS) for the Xbox One so you will not be able to do so.
Jvm
Please one plus 7 pro
Some legends say that theres no way to find a optical disk drive in this console.
hello. what's music plays on the background?
Yeah, but the question is why would anyone buy Xbox?
PC >>> consoles
Thanks now I can sell all of them for parts
why's swapping the HDDs not easy?
They literally said it when they mentioned the HDD. Twice.
Anzetal Because the internal software for the console is on it. If you buy a new HDD for your computer, you need to reinstall Windows. But on Xbox - you do not have a way to install the Xbox OS onto your new HDD.
Where is the disc drive?
What a joke...
First 🤷
Hi can I change ps2 to ps3 is there any chance for repairing