To Clarify: We actually think Josh’s video is great, as mentioned several times in our reaction. Though we question whether or not this video is the first thing a new or prospective brewer should see if they’re looking for a solid resource on making beer. For example, @thebrusho has an entire channel full of videos that rival the production quality of Josh’s vid, but with more relevant and accurate information (because @Thebrusho is a highly experienced home brewer!!!). Why not introduce a newbie to a resource like that instead of directing them to a guy who made a one-off brewing video containing outdated information?
Wow thank you so much for the shoutouts!!Agree with a lot of what’s said in this video. Maybe his video will bring more people into the hobby but hopefully channels like ours keep them around! 🍻
How would he have accomplished what you wanted? Put up a two minute video saying hey i was gonna make a homebrew video but I'm not the expert...you should go watch these guys, okay bye! If someone is an existing fan of Weissman, and they watch his video, who's to say that won't spark an interest in the hobby that drives them to more homebrewing content? I don't think he's trying to be a definitive source...he's providing another entry point for someone who likes his cooking content but hadn't thought of homebrewing before. I'd go with you as far to say that he could have included links to some of the better TH-cam homebrewing channels for more information, but he's more than allowed to try to make a one-off homebrewing video if he wants.
Brewing is fun! Great perspective on the vid! Beauty is he only has one video on it, so anyone researching will probably find two or three videos at least before they try it. Cheers!
@@jeff-martin Did Joshua Weissman put the recommendation up? No, that's TH-cam. They've repeatedly said the video is good. The problem is that TH-cam prioritizes large channels even when they aren't the best source for the material being searched for. TH-cam prioritizes more views, and more ad revenue. 🤷♂️
@@Vykk_Draygo yes but when the thumbnail and the majority of the focus is on Weissman’s video, that really kills the message. I’d be TOTALLY on Kyle’s side if he made a video about the algorithm favoring popular accounts over more definitive sources, but that is barely mentioned, and when it is, it’s poorly framed to the point that it looks like he’s calling Weissman out for not promoting more seasoned BrewTube creators.
This is a great breakdown of the video. You guys and girl at claw hammer and CH from H4L definitely are the top of my TH-cam brewers list, I hope more beer channels get the love they deserve!
Joshua Weissman's video was my very first introduction to home-brewing. I had been interested in cooking as a general skill, and brewing beer seemed like one of those extra things you could do for flair. I was watching Binging with Babish and Joshua pretty heavily, and on a whim, I bought and made a Saison extract kit with a homebrew starter kit. From there, I joined a local club and the rest is history, thanks to his video.
I recently helped a friend try homebrewing by getting them a starter kit. After looking around for the best intro-video on youtube, I found Homebrew 4 life's video was absolutely the best and it recommended the best starter kit to buy as well.
As a long time fan of both channels, I enjoyed Joshua's toe dip into the homebrew world, but 100% agree with the criticisms offered in this video. This is a great honest critique and was handled very politely. Kudos to the CHS team. PS. Joshua's Crispy chicken sando recipe is other worldly levels of awesome.
He started the video by saying that he thinks his videos great. He just adds that the information presented might not be the best for a someone who might be brewing for their very first time and that there are better resources. He absolutely means well and I wish Kyle would put out even more material. All love from Chi-town baby!
Joshua's video brought me back to homebrewing after 15 years almost. He is easy to understand. I didn't use that recipe or that equipment. but general tips and how to's.
No one has ever mastered a skill by watching one single video. Joshua's introduction to homebrewing made me look around for more content. His brewing techniques may not be up to par, however, his "tutorial" answered the basic questions about brewing in very easy to understand way.
Hi 👋 very interesting you mentioned his Video. I just ordered my first brewing equipment and before that, I watched a lot of videos to get into this topic. One of the first Videos I watched was Joshua's. Honestly I have to say if you're a newbie like me his video was a pretty good one. Not because it was the technical best, but it gave me the best impression which are the essential steps for brewing (even if he used malt extract). Yes I think you're right with a lot of points. When I got more deeply into every single aspect before ordering my setup, other channels were Simply better. Homebrew4life as example made a pretty good video about why you shouldn't buy a glass fermenter. Like you mentioned. But as a newbie the "brewing focused channels" turned out to be really cool for a deep dive, but for my first impressions how this works, Joshua's video was quite cool. I liked his video and it was a nice starting point as an source for information. Not a hate comment just an honest opinion. I like your channel and what you guys are doing. Sorry for grammar and greetings from Germany 🍻 Prost
I will admit this was one of the first videos I watched and watched it a few times through but it was the brusho channel that really got me. I’ve been binging your videos over the past few weeks and getting tons of good info. I just brewed my second extract batch. Wanna do a handful of these before making the jump to all grain biab. I’ve become a big fan of hb4l because of you guys as well. Thanks for what you do.
Since watching a heap of David Heath's videos, youtube has been suggesting a lot of yours, clawhammers and homebrew challenges vids (all of whom I now sub to), so you're doing something right in that respect. They keep suggesting Josh's beer video, I'm guessing because I watch a heap of his cooking videos, despite the fact that I've already watched it...and I didn't rate it, but that's coming from someone who has a decent knowledge of brewing already. P.s. love your channel!
Wow I must say that when I first started researching this hobby I started consuming EVERYTHING I could find on TH-cam, I never stumbled across his video which is kind of strange but happy because I probably would have run out and bought a glass carboy, until I saw the other brewtubers specifically Doin' The Mosts video on why carboys are suddenly shattering. Super happy that I found the ones I have and look forward to future one's as well. Loving my clawhammer system! I guess I never went with the simple search term of "how to brew beer" and more direct such as brewing an IPA or brewing a blonde ale, once I found a few good channels I started seeking out more. I learned a lot of stuff I didn't need to learn such as vourlauf, HLT, etc and went with a clawhammer system. I just don't have the ability to use propane at my apartment.
Interestingly, when I thought I want to know how to brew beer, Josh's video was the one I watched first. (Big fan of his channel by now actually...) But even more interestingly, you guys were the second source of brewing videos I watched. And you made it look like fun. Long story short, two years later (now) I would call myself almost a half decent home brewer. Funny thing to see what inspires people.
I hope nobody thinks u guys r being dinks about that video. The homebrew/brewing community actually wants anyone interesting brewing beer to be able to make good beer. We really r rooting for u! If u learn anything from this video, do ur research like the rest of us and don't rely on 1 reference. Nobody is perfect.
I don't drink very often, but the idea of making alcohol is fascinating. Fermentation in general is really fascinating. Nothing wrong with someone making something even if they aren't completely dedicated to it.
Seeing him shake that thing scared the shit out of me, so a PSA for anyone who uses glass: pour sanitizer in to cover the bottom, roll it over a towel to get the sides, and get the top as you're dumping it out.
glass is fragile and slippery when wet... got it. carboy handles and brewhauler straps have been around for a minute. oh, and you can aerate your wort in a carboy shaking it while tilted on it's edge safely on the floor just like a plastic bucket. besides sanitary concerns, I'd vote the biggest benefit of glass carboy is the ability to see all that awesome fermentation activity!
@@mpower1998 - I love glass carboys for that reason too (seeing what's going on inside). But ditched my glass carboy long ago mostly for the ease of use and cleaning that other fermenters offer, in addition to safety.
I would say that some good SEO practices along with the engagement in comments are the reason his videos are on top. I'm not quite experienced with TH-cam SEO, but I know that for websites he has good practices
Solid breakdown, watching Joshua's recipe videos then fermenting series and going into the beer brewing one led me to the rest of brewtube so I'm sure it's led many others to find out more!
Hey guys just wanted to let you know about 3 years ago I watched Joshua's beer video and became addicted to the hobby. I then started to look for other people's take on beer making. Witch led me to using your equipment and flowing a lot of recipes frome the home brew challenge and a lot of the others you showed in this video. I appreciate all of you to help me grow with a fantastic hobby. I guess you could say joshua was my gateway drug to home brew and you are now my head shop. Hope you guys can collaborate and get more people into home brew and more into cooking at home. Also looking forward into distilling in the near future and know were to get a good setup 😉
I watched Josh's video years ago (probably because it was first thing that came up). I never followed the recipe but found some other videos and I'm still brewing.
I started brewing quite a few years ago, so I do still ferment with the glass carboys I have. One thing I wouldn't do is touch a wet/full carboy without a secured handle.
Enjoy the discussion. I have a few "how to" videos on brewing BIAB (that I probably need to cycle back to since they were some of the first videos I made). Probably the best made video on brewing your first batch of extract beer is "Extract Brewing 101" video over on the small channel Benham Brewing. He also uses a glass carboy but at least has a carboy strap.
Your videos, The bru sho, homebrewing for life etc. Deserves more than joshua But I'm not underestimating anybody Joshua is perfect as a chef Yeah also good as a homebrewer But he spent his life on other things such as cooking and baking. On the other hand, some of brewers spent most of their time and trained on beer making but their videos couldn't have that much view as joshua I think joshuas video looks fancy and he is already popular with his stuffs that's why TH-cam promoted joshua more than y'all Try something like everyone would love not only for beer lovers Try recreating canned boozy drinks that can be found on market then i bet your channel is gonna grow fast Rebrew boozy mtn dew i heard it booze better than Seltzers Appreciate your contents thanks if you read this comment. must take care of yourself. Alcohol is not too good for health don't be a addict drink'em once a week also sell your brewed products online Eat healthy stay healthy my guy Much love ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Can attest, I have had a glass fermenter explode on me for pretty much no reason and it sliced me pretty good. Not fun to have a bleeding hand and no fermenter to put your brew into!
You guys got me with that airation tip. I brew kombucha and ran into one of those half brewed batches and was very confused by it. It would seem as my starter gets a higher alc content it seems to need me to treat the tea similar to a wort.
Ha - I learned how to make sourdough bread from Josh. He may have subconsciously planted the seed in my mind that got me back into homebrewing after a one-off many years ago.
I have been a professional brewer for 1 year now and I can say w/o a doubt that Clawhammer is right please check out those other channels. For a beginner there are so many "small" steps that can contribute to making a beer go from amazing to complete failure. Josh's it's easy attitude is both true and false which can be misleading. Also have some respect for this craft alot of us dedicate our lives to this shit.
Can you guys make a glycol chilled frost bar to keep my beer frosty cold :). I see no videos on how to do it. Saw it once at a brewery on Mt Hood in Oregon.
Kind of bummed you didn't mention Craigtube. His methods are a bit rudimentary and more brewing opinion than brewing fact but his vids helped out alot. From jazzing up simple extracts to helping me when I first started kegging. He also helped me get over the stigma of extract brewing 10 years ago. I had no stigma but everyone who I knew that brewed was switching over to all grain. I loved in a tiny ass apartment with a pair of under 2 irish twins at the time. Had no money to up my game in other words. He helped me realise I like my beer regardless of how it's made. Other people liked it too. I just stopped telling other brewers it was extract 🤣
You didn't really provide any examples of what should be the #1 video. Although from someone who doesn't know anything about home brewing this is a great response to the video.
"There are currently dozens of high-quality channels on TH-cam that are hyper-focused on the art and science of brewing beer at home" ...and if you were not previously interested in brewing beer, you'd never see a single one of them. But if you like cooking and you like Joshua Weissman, you may see his video, become interested in the idea of brewing beer at home, and look one of those channels up. JW's video is an outstanding appetizer for someone who may have otherwise never thought of brewing at home before, and you're gatekeeping their way in because you don't like how SEO and the TH-cam algorithm work. And that's your real argument - you're mad at TH-cam for not promoting these "better" videos. But again, at worst JW's video gets ignored by someone who doesn't wanna make beer. At best, it leads them down a path that they watch all these channels with regularity.
Seeing a lot of on-behalf-of offendees here in the comments. Just drop it, fanboy. You're making dumb and petty assumptions on the guys' motives for making this video. I think they made it very clear that they appreciate Joshua's video but wanted to point out the errors in it because of how popular it is.
@@asd-en2ee when you’re putting someone’s face in your thumbnail and a big X over that thumbnail it tends to poison whatever other message you have in your video. I understand that Clawhammer throws a lot of compliments in Joshua’s direction. But I don’t think Joshua’s video is meant to be a definitive homebrew video. It’s a video to get non-brewers interested in brewing. And once they do they can look to Flora, Genus, Clawhammer, Homebrew Challenge and others for more information. Clawhammer’s primary complaint seems to be that TH-cam favors JW’s video when you search how to brew beer, which is a fair complaint, but it’s not something any of the parties he mentions in this video can address. All this I say as a huge fan of Clawhammer, their videos, and all the channels recommended here.
I like to use glass carboys because it makes me feel like an old timey scientist and it teaches me dicipline as far as thinking about the characteristics of different reactions. Which is what old timey scientists had to think about.
In defense of the glass fermenters. They are forever, you can better understand brewing when you watch the entire process (which is cool also), it's easier to syphon from them, and they are so much more good looking than a plastic bucket.
Also they can break when: dropped, hit by a spoon, temperature shocked. They are harder to clean because of the neck. They can't be stacked for storage.
@@HrafnirKrumr everything you just mentioned is user error not glass error. Get a carboy harness, get temp control, use a plastic spoon not a metal whip. Not rocket science. I always and will forever use glass carboys, plastic can get scratched and will degrade over time glass will not
Speaking of saisons. How is that solera clean Saison mix you guys bottled doing? Also any update on the foeder project? Keep killing it. Thank you for the content.
Hmmm. I've brewed a few beers. I've watched a few of Weissman's videos, though not this one (aside from what I've seen in the various reaction videos). I also remember watching Alton Brown's episode of Good Eats where he took a crack at brewing, long before I started brewing myself--and even then I was noticing problems. But it did pique my interest in the subject (I'm kind of weird; I was interested in brewing beer long before I was interested in drinking it), and I expect Weissman's video will do the same (as it seems, from the comments here and elsewhere, it has done). The Good Eats episode aired 20 years ago, and I think he can be forgiven for not referring his viewers to many of today's resources--he did highly recommend the LHBS, which was a good recommendation for the time. It's a pity Weissman didn't link to some of the bigger brewing channels or sites as a "for further study" thing, though.
I don’t like beer wanting to make it was just a way to impress my dad but now dad’s quit drinking so its mostly gonna be me trying to prove to myself that i can
I do use small 1 gallon glass carboys for mead and testing beer recipes at small scale, and they are pretty easy to handle at that size. (Stainless all day long at 3gal+, my main fermenter is 7.5 stainless) In addition to doing a more reasonable style like a porter or a pale, a first timer shouldn't be doing a 5 gallon batch IMHO. And kveik ftw if you don't have temp control.
Great break down. When I first started looking for videos on Home brewing I seen Josh's video first and stopped watching it about 2 minutes in. Couldn't stand his voice or face. Then came across claw hammer videos and was also turned off cause it seemed to be to silly to me. Ultimately I found The brushow and apartment brewer and watched the hell out of their videos. After brewing for a little while I now enjoy watching claw hammer videos cause you guys are silly and I can still pick up great tid-bits of helpful information now that I know more about the names and terms of things related to brewing. Still cant finish watching Josh's video though. lol
Oh, and glass fermenters are very dangerous to the untrained homebrewer. I have a 3 gallon for making large lager starters and a 6 gallon never used but on standby for mixed fermentation.
LOVE THIS VIDEO!!! I see that French dude copying the Grocery store ingredients home brew; has millions of views... We ALL know that was Barley and the Hops TV and several people have tried the same thing but NO ONE wanted to plug his channel. Bearded and Bored was the only dude that didnt try to take credit for someone elses work. Ballistic BBQ ALWAYS lets people know where he got the recipe or idea from as well. Its classless to steal someone else's work and not point your finger in the direction you took it from. Guga does that sh*t too. Like he knew WTF a fondant potato was before he watched Chef John.
In Josh's defense. His video is more ideal for beginners as it does not get very technical and it covers most of the basics. When I first started brewing I didn't really care for the technical aspect of brewing until I actually started brewing.
I agree with you here. Fine video, but not the best advice. Looking back, I got some questionable advice at the start from various sources. Including home brew shops. No problem calling that out.
Although not intended, this video comes across a bit like 'sour grapes'. I mean, with 6.5M subscribers he could literally do a video on taking a dump and it would race to the top of the 'charts'. As @thebrusho says, he has an opportunity to introduce this beautiful thing we love called 'homebrewing' to so many more people and that can only be a good thing. These people can then refine and hone their skills by watching quality homebrewing channels like yours, to produce the best beer they can. Love your channel ...
Also critiquing Josh's pouring technique whilst drinking from a simple mug. This definitely sounds like Clawhammer has ass-pain from nit having the same number of subscribers.
Brewing in next couple weeks. Great informational video! @JoshuaWeissman and @AltonBrown beer brewing videos make me feel like I can. They make it look easy. 🙌🏽 Researching the safe, proper, and tips from pros makes the process successful. Thanks cheers!
I've been a homebrewer for 3 years and still haven't acquired a taste for saison, they just not for me. Also glass carboys are amazing, I would highly recommend provided you are paranoid about safety. They clean super easy with chemicals such as caustic, and are completely immune to pretty much all chemicals which plastic and even steel aren't. Take care of your carboy and it will literally last forever
I think the video was a nice introduction but I agree, even the best saison ever can be funky and yeasty and people who drink mainly macro lagers might think that they messed up. Besides that I think the video is mainly positive for homebrewing as a whole.
I subscribe Joshua cause his recipes are damm delicious. And I had to admit that it was also him who bring me to this hobby. Cause I saw that video via my recomended and I was like "Is it really that simple ? Lemme try :D Since that day it´s been 2 years and I´ve brew almost 20 batches of beer ... But still no saison :D So I actually understand what r you trying to say.
Lol im literally making his sandwich bread for probably the 50th time right now, but id never follow his beer making video and im just watching videos to decide if an how i wanna get started. Hes a good cook, but ill get my beer brewing info from people who do it everyday
Lot of weird comments... Fanboys of this guy? Never heard of him for beer or cooking. I watch a lot of both cooking and beer videos. Just searched and he comes up 3rd now. Yes, a LOT of not great advice from a complete novice. I wouldn't recommend his video either. My first TH-cam video was John Palmer how to brew all grain beer because when I used to use extract, TH-cam didn't exist... AOL was just starting to send out floppy disks. Also saison kick ass. Problem is most Americans grew up on shitty beer and then blew their palettes out on hops. Doesn't help that every brewery I visit is a dozen IPA and a couple stouts. I guess that's this one guys saving grace is he picked a much better style. And no to glass carboys.
You know i was thinking what is molasses then i research and found out its one of the most common thing in my country and we have lots of varieties of them. And we use them on lot of food 😂😂
I agree 100%... I sub his channel and think he is super great too... But you would think he give some love to the pros with few shout outs to other channels... At the end of the day I don't come to a brew channel to find out how to make the best pizza and I will not go to a food channel to find out how to brew the best NEIPA haha 😂😂😂 May you both keep kicking ass at what ya doooo
My issue with Joshua’s vid is that he is making homebrewing look like a walk in the park, which already isn’t if you have great equipment, imagine then with a stove top, glass fermenter, bottle conditioning (with saison yeast!). There’s a specific main process to follow and that one, granted, is not complicated, it’s straightforward and repetitive. But to make GOOD beer, there’s way more to that. And as a longtime home/pro brewer I don’t want people thinking “oh yeah, that’s pretty easy, huh?” and they can do what I do because they watched Joshua’s go at homebrewing like it was done 30 years ago. Also, I can’t put my money on that beer having turned out great. Why? Let’s face it, first time brews are - most of the time - “meh” at most. And the dude is not even a beer drinker, how can I take his word at knowing if that saison turned out like a saison should turn out? At the end of the day, even if he KNOWS the beer sucks he can’t just dump it down the drain in front of 3 million viewers, can he? So yeah, maybe next time, if he wants to “teach” hot to homebrew, he should invite someone more experienced to participate on his video. And maybe, at least, some recommendations to all of the amazing brew tubers out there wouldn’t be bad either. Cheers!
maybe he doesn't like beer 'cause he started with a homemade saison haha. some of the local micro and nano brewers round my parts have made some very light saisons with a lot of finesse, but I can't imagine achieving that as a new homebrewer! for me it was that spicy/sharp flavour profile, often completely overbearing. sort of like trying to eat hot peppers for the first time, something you should do by using a tiny amount mixed in with the right food.
Sorry, my 6 glass fermenters have served me well for 30 years now - I’m not going to landfill them and buy new plastic or imported stainless product just cause glass is passé. Cheers to those recycling used ones. If you want to do a video for new brewers getting into the hobby, how about one on being resourceful finding used equipment. People are giving up on homebrewing as fast as they are entering - yet everyone buys a new setup? Maybe that video will rank #2 to JW?
Ok, so there are definitely worse home brew videos on TH-cam both in production and information. He gets mostly everything right but makes some assumptions and attempts to talk from an authority he doesn’t really have. I personally do not like Saison no judgement to those that do but I like beer flavored beer and doing a pale or blonde ale for a beginner video is probably the better route and room temp fermentation is fine for either. However if it’s a hobby that bites you then after a brew or two you will be looking for a mini fridge or other means of temp control I think I had three brews under my belt before I jumped into temp control and fancy fermenters. I am still using the same kettles because they work but one day I’ll probably pull the trigger on a claw hammer.
Every tap has an aerator in it these days to save water. When topping up the bucket the cold water is already aerated. Also none of the extract or BIAB kit recipes ever mentioned aeration. I would say the aeration is only needed when you boil the entire 23l batch in a AIO brewer or something similar.
Even if half the water in your fermenter is fresh out of the faucet and aerated, the other half you just boiled will be almost devoid of oxygen. Why not aerate and make sure the yeast have all the O2 they need? There's no downside and can only benefit the fermentation.
To Clarify: We actually think Josh’s video is great, as mentioned several times in our reaction. Though we question whether or not this video is the first thing a new or prospective brewer should see if they’re looking for a solid resource on making beer. For example, @thebrusho has an entire channel full of videos that rival the production quality of Josh’s vid, but with more relevant and accurate information (because @Thebrusho is a highly experienced home brewer!!!). Why not introduce a newbie to a resource like that instead of directing them to a guy who made a one-off brewing video containing outdated information?
Wow thank you so much for the shoutouts!!Agree with a lot of what’s said in this video. Maybe his video will bring more people into the hobby but hopefully channels like ours keep them around! 🍻
How would he have accomplished what you wanted? Put up a two minute video saying hey i was gonna make a homebrew video but I'm not the expert...you should go watch these guys, okay bye! If someone is an existing fan of Weissman, and they watch his video, who's to say that won't spark an interest in the hobby that drives them to more homebrewing content? I don't think he's trying to be a definitive source...he's providing another entry point for someone who likes his cooking content but hadn't thought of homebrewing before. I'd go with you as far to say that he could have included links to some of the better TH-cam homebrewing channels for more information, but he's more than allowed to try to make a one-off homebrewing video if he wants.
Brewing is fun! Great perspective on the vid! Beauty is he only has one video on it, so anyone researching will probably find two or three videos at least before they try it. Cheers!
@@jeff-martin Did Joshua Weissman put the recommendation up? No, that's TH-cam. They've repeatedly said the video is good. The problem is that TH-cam prioritizes large channels even when they aren't the best source for the material being searched for. TH-cam prioritizes more views, and more ad revenue. 🤷♂️
@@Vykk_Draygo yes but when the thumbnail and the majority of the focus is on Weissman’s video, that really kills the message. I’d be TOTALLY on Kyle’s side if he made a video about the algorithm favoring popular accounts over more definitive sources, but that is barely mentioned, and when it is, it’s poorly framed to the point that it looks like he’s calling Weissman out for not promoting more seasoned BrewTube creators.
This is a great breakdown of the video. You guys and girl at claw hammer and CH from H4L definitely are the top of my TH-cam brewers list, I hope more beer channels get the love they deserve!
So funny. His video was actually my introduction to home brewing. But after a little digging I found all of you guys
Started off watching yours and other videos like this... several years later I'm a qualified professional brewer, and I love my job.
I appreciate how modest you are about your channel I’ve learned a lot from you guys and appreciate you
Joshua Weissman's video was my very first introduction to home-brewing. I had been interested in cooking as a general skill, and brewing beer seemed like one of those extra things you could do for flair. I was watching Binging with Babish and Joshua pretty heavily, and on a whim, I bought and made a Saison extract kit with a homebrew starter kit. From there, I joined a local club and the rest is history, thanks to his video.
Awesome, I'm getting into home brewing because of the boycott
same story here from China
his video was resposible for raising my interest to homebrewing. But im thankfull for all the dedicated brewing channels out here
I recently helped a friend try homebrewing by getting them a starter kit. After looking around for the best intro-video on youtube, I found Homebrew 4 life's video was absolutely the best and it recommended the best starter kit to buy as well.
As a long time fan of both channels, I enjoyed Joshua's toe dip into the homebrew world, but 100% agree with the criticisms offered in this video. This is a great honest critique and was handled very politely. Kudos to the CHS team.
PS. Joshua's Crispy chicken sando recipe is other worldly levels of awesome.
0:45 - I finally saw my channel 'featured' on a clawhammer supply video!
I just love how the brewing community on YT recommends each other. 👍👍💯💯🍻🍻. Learned how to brew with all of you. Except the No 1 video.
He started the video by saying that he thinks his videos great. He just adds that the information presented might not be the best for a someone who might be brewing for their very first time and that there are better resources. He absolutely means well and I wish Kyle would put out even more material. All love from Chi-town baby!
Joshua's video brought me back to homebrewing after 15 years almost. He is easy to understand. I didn't use that recipe or that equipment. but general tips and how to's.
No one has ever mastered a skill by watching one single video. Joshua's introduction to homebrewing made me look around for more content. His brewing techniques may not be up to par, however, his "tutorial" answered the basic questions about brewing in very easy to understand way.
Joshua is one of the best at cooking everything from scratch
Hi 👋 very interesting you mentioned his Video. I just ordered my first brewing equipment and before that, I watched a lot of videos to get into this topic. One of the first Videos I watched was Joshua's. Honestly I have to say if you're a newbie like me his video was a pretty good one. Not because it was the technical best, but it gave me the best impression which are the essential steps for brewing (even if he used malt extract). Yes I think you're right with a lot of points. When I got more deeply into every single aspect before ordering my setup, other channels were Simply better. Homebrew4life as example made a pretty good video about why you shouldn't buy a glass fermenter. Like you mentioned. But as a newbie the "brewing focused channels" turned out to be really cool for a deep dive, but for my first impressions how this works, Joshua's video was quite cool. I liked his video and it was a nice starting point as an source for information.
Not a hate comment just an honest opinion. I like your channel and what you guys are doing. Sorry for grammar and greetings from Germany 🍻 Prost
I will admit this was one of the first videos I watched and watched it a few times through but it was the brusho channel that really got me. I’ve been binging your videos over the past few weeks and getting tons of good info. I just brewed my second extract batch. Wanna do a handful of these before making the jump to all grain biab. I’ve become a big fan of hb4l because of you guys as well. Thanks for what you do.
Thanks for your honesty and not selling yourself out ❤ that's worth a like.
Joshua's video is what made me begin my homebrewing odyssey!
Thanks for the shoutout guys!
Since watching a heap of David Heath's videos, youtube has been suggesting a lot of yours, clawhammers and homebrew challenges vids (all of whom I now sub to), so you're doing something right in that respect. They keep suggesting Josh's beer video, I'm guessing because I watch a heap of his cooking videos, despite the fact that I've already watched it...and I didn't rate it, but that's coming from someone who has a decent knowledge of brewing already.
P.s. love your channel!
@@SimonBorg I appreciate it man!
my favorite clawhammer vids are when Kyle has clearly had a few beveraginos before recording
“Beveraginos” is my new favorite word.
Wow I must say that when I first started researching this hobby I started consuming EVERYTHING I could find on TH-cam, I never stumbled across his video which is kind of strange but happy because I probably would have run out and bought a glass carboy, until I saw the other brewtubers specifically Doin' The Mosts video on why carboys are suddenly shattering. Super happy that I found the ones I have and look forward to future one's as well. Loving my clawhammer system! I guess I never went with the simple search term of "how to brew beer" and more direct such as brewing an IPA or brewing a blonde ale, once I found a few good channels I started seeking out more. I learned a lot of stuff I didn't need to learn such as vourlauf, HLT, etc and went with a clawhammer system. I just don't have the ability to use propane at my apartment.
Interestingly, when I thought I want to know how to brew beer, Josh's video was the one I watched first. (Big fan of his channel by now actually...)
But even more interestingly, you guys were the second source of brewing videos I watched. And you made it look like fun.
Long story short, two years later (now) I would call myself almost a half decent home brewer.
Funny thing to see what inspires people.
I hope nobody thinks u guys r being dinks about that video. The homebrew/brewing community actually wants anyone interesting brewing beer to be able to make good beer. We really r rooting for u! If u learn anything from this video, do ur research like the rest of us and don't rely on 1 reference. Nobody is perfect.
Brilliant video! Particularly the part where you said "we are not the channel for new people as we screw around far too much." 🤣🤣
I don't drink very often, but the idea of making alcohol is fascinating. Fermentation in general is really fascinating. Nothing wrong with someone making something even if they aren't completely dedicated to it.
Loving the honesty and you're right, Joshua is a chef, not a brewer.
Seeing him shake that thing scared the shit out of me, so a PSA for anyone who uses glass: pour sanitizer in to cover the bottom, roll it over a towel to get the sides, and get the top as you're dumping it out.
glass is fragile and slippery when wet... got it. carboy handles and brewhauler straps have been around for a minute. oh, and you can aerate your wort in a carboy shaking it while tilted on it's edge safely on the floor just like a plastic bucket. besides sanitary concerns, I'd vote the biggest benefit of glass carboy is the ability to see all that awesome fermentation activity!
@@mpower1998 - I love glass carboys for that reason too (seeing what's going on inside). But ditched my glass carboy long ago mostly for the ease of use and cleaning that other fermenters offer, in addition to safety.
I would say that some good SEO practices along with the engagement in comments are the reason his videos are on top. I'm not quite experienced with TH-cam SEO, but I know that for websites he has good practices
Every small or larger channel should be thanking Josh for utilizing his platform to bring more folks to this awesome hobby!
Solid breakdown, watching Joshua's recipe videos then fermenting series and going into the beer brewing one led me to the rest of brewtube so I'm sure it's led many others to find out more!
Hey guys just wanted to let you know about 3 years ago I watched Joshua's beer video and became addicted to the hobby. I then started to look for other people's take on beer making. Witch led me to using your equipment and flowing a lot of recipes frome the home brew challenge and a lot of the others you showed in this video. I appreciate all of you to help me grow with a fantastic hobby. I guess you could say joshua was my gateway drug to home brew and you are now my head shop. Hope you guys can collaborate and get more people into home brew and more into cooking at home. Also looking forward into distilling in the near future and know were to get a good setup 😉
There are a bunch of PET carboy options, I love the Fermonster one, its widemouth and suuper easy to clean! The seal is great, no isues there
I watched Josh's video years ago (probably because it was first thing that came up). I never followed the recipe but found some other videos and I'm still brewing.
It was the first video I saw that got me into brewing. 2 years later with a brewzilla I've brewed way better beers. Cheers clawhammer! Love ya work!
You guys are the ones that inspired my to homebrew!!! Don't underestimate yourselves ;-)
I started brewing quite a few years ago, so I do still ferment with the glass carboys I have. One thing I wouldn't do is touch a wet/full carboy without a secured handle.
You can get a rubber coated steel handle for your glass carboy that makes it slightly better to handle
actually, a *lot* better. Still have to be careful lifting it as you could snap the neck where the handle goes on.
His video actually got me into homebrewing. Full stop. Luckily I did more research before actually starting it ;)
That video is what inspire me to learn and deepened my brewing skill
Enjoy the discussion. I have a few "how to" videos on brewing BIAB (that I probably need to cycle back to since they were some of the first videos I made). Probably the best made video on brewing your first batch of extract beer is "Extract Brewing 101" video over on the small channel Benham Brewing. He also uses a glass carboy but at least has a carboy strap.
I love clawhammer supply! I gotten 2 still kits and I love them
Excellent video man, I cut my brewers teeth the home brew channels the you recommended, especially the apartment brewer and barley and hops
Your videos, The bru sho, homebrewing for life etc. Deserves more than joshua
But I'm not underestimating anybody
Joshua is perfect as a chef
Yeah also good as a homebrewer
But he spent his life on other things such as cooking and baking.
On the other hand, some of brewers spent most of their time and trained on beer making but their videos couldn't have that much view as joshua
I think joshuas video looks fancy and he is already popular with his stuffs that's why TH-cam promoted joshua more than y'all
Try something like everyone would love not only for beer lovers
Try recreating canned boozy drinks that can be found on market then i bet your channel is gonna grow fast
Rebrew boozy mtn dew i heard it booze better than Seltzers
Appreciate your contents thanks if you read this comment. must take care of yourself. Alcohol is not too good for health don't be a addict drink'em once a week also sell your brewed products online
Eat healthy stay healthy my guy
Much love ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Great Video, I love this kind of x-raying videos cheers!
Josh is great, and I think this was a fair critique. Hope this somehow leads to a collab
The French saison yeast is also diastatic which can lead to other issues as well.
Right?!? Using this yeast for the first time is like the perfect recipe for bottle bomb
@@vertharion694 i had some full on fountians when i used it for the first time,lol.
Don Osborn’s channel donosborn was my gateway to all grain homebrewing
DON-O is the best
@@ClawhammerSupply DON-O bro I freaking love that man. Oh, and Chip from Chop n Brew. So good.
Can attest, I have had a glass fermenter explode on me for pretty much no reason and it sliced me pretty good. Not fun to have a bleeding hand and no fermenter to put your brew into!
Style, well pointed out, Joshua did well jumpin straight in the deep end, thats seems to be his attack on food and beverages
You guys got me with that airation tip. I brew kombucha and ran into one of those half brewed batches and was very confused by it. It would seem as my starter gets a higher alc content it seems to need me to treat the tea similar to a wort.
Ha - I learned how to make sourdough bread from Josh. He may have subconsciously planted the seed in my mind that got me back into homebrewing after a one-off many years ago.
Never heard of Joshua's channel before 🤷♂ Surprised you did not include a link for Jus' Brewing. I also like Elementary Brewing.
Ooops, forgot both! Will add now.
I have been a professional brewer for 1 year now and I can say w/o a doubt that Clawhammer is right please check out those other channels. For a beginner there are so many "small" steps that can contribute to making a beer go from amazing to complete failure. Josh's it's easy attitude is both true and false which can be misleading. Also have some respect for this craft alot of us dedicate our lives to this shit.
Would you want to aerate a cream stout before pitching the yeast? It did’t say anything about doing that in my kits instructions
Can you guys make a glycol chilled frost bar to keep my beer frosty cold :). I see no videos on how to do it. Saw it once at a brewery on Mt Hood in Oregon.
Kind of bummed you didn't mention Craigtube. His methods are a bit rudimentary and more brewing opinion than brewing fact but his vids helped out alot. From jazzing up simple extracts to helping me when I first started kegging. He also helped me get over the stigma of extract brewing 10 years ago. I had no stigma but everyone who I knew that brewed was switching over to all grain. I loved in a tiny ass apartment with a pair of under 2 irish twins at the time. Had no money to up my game in other words. He helped me realise I like my beer regardless of how it's made. Other people liked it too. I just stopped telling other brewers it was extract 🤣
You didn't really provide any examples of what should be the #1 video.
Although from someone who doesn't know anything about home brewing this is a great response to the video.
"There are currently dozens of high-quality channels on TH-cam that are hyper-focused on the art and science of brewing beer at home"
...and if you were not previously interested in brewing beer, you'd never see a single one of them. But if you like cooking and you like Joshua Weissman, you may see his video, become interested in the idea of brewing beer at home, and look one of those channels up. JW's video is an outstanding appetizer for someone who may have otherwise never thought of brewing at home before, and you're gatekeeping their way in because you don't like how SEO and the TH-cam algorithm work. And that's your real argument - you're mad at TH-cam for not promoting these "better" videos. But again, at worst JW's video gets ignored by someone who doesn't wanna make beer. At best, it leads them down a path that they watch all these channels with regularity.
Could not have said this better! Bravo.
Seeing a lot of on-behalf-of offendees here in the comments. Just drop it, fanboy. You're making dumb and petty assumptions on the guys' motives for making this video. I think they made it very clear that they appreciate Joshua's video but wanted to point out the errors in it because of how popular it is.
@@asd-en2ee don't hate the players buddy, hate the game. That's the message.
@@vruychev A message to who - Clawhammer? Why? Because you say they're hating, which they ain't, and it's childish to assume otherwise.
@@asd-en2ee when you’re putting someone’s face in your thumbnail and a big X over that thumbnail it tends to poison whatever other message you have in your video. I understand that Clawhammer throws a lot of compliments in Joshua’s direction. But I don’t think Joshua’s video is meant to be a definitive homebrew video. It’s a video to get non-brewers interested in brewing. And once they do they can look to Flora, Genus, Clawhammer, Homebrew Challenge and others for more information. Clawhammer’s primary complaint seems to be that TH-cam favors JW’s video when you search how to brew beer, which is a fair complaint, but it’s not something any of the parties he mentions in this video can address. All this I say as a huge fan of Clawhammer, their videos, and all the channels recommended here.
I like to use glass carboys because it makes me feel like an old timey scientist and it teaches me dicipline as far as thinking about the characteristics of different reactions. Which is what old timey scientists had to think about.
Old timey scientists also thought diseases came from ghosts in your blood and prescribed cocaine to treat it.
In defense of the glass fermenters.
They are forever, you can better understand brewing when you watch the entire process (which is cool also), it's easier to syphon from them, and they are so much more good looking than a plastic bucket.
Also they can break when: dropped, hit by a spoon, temperature shocked. They are harder to clean because of the neck. They can't be stacked for storage.
@@HrafnirKrumr everything you just mentioned is user error not glass error. Get a carboy harness, get temp control, use a plastic spoon not a metal whip. Not rocket science. I always and will forever use glass carboys, plastic can get scratched and will degrade over time glass will not
@@emperorphil2547 agreed. Apart from cleaning and stacking.
I use both and like both for different reasons.
Plastic carboys are also sensitive to heat, so 😅
Speaking of saisons. How is that solera clean Saison mix you guys bottled doing?
Also any update on the foeder project? Keep killing it. Thank you for the content.
Hmmm. I've brewed a few beers. I've watched a few of Weissman's videos, though not this one (aside from what I've seen in the various reaction videos). I also remember watching Alton Brown's episode of Good Eats where he took a crack at brewing, long before I started brewing myself--and even then I was noticing problems. But it did pique my interest in the subject (I'm kind of weird; I was interested in brewing beer long before I was interested in drinking it), and I expect Weissman's video will do the same (as it seems, from the comments here and elsewhere, it has done).
The Good Eats episode aired 20 years ago, and I think he can be forgiven for not referring his viewers to many of today's resources--he did highly recommend the LHBS, which was a good recommendation for the time. It's a pity Weissman didn't link to some of the bigger brewing channels or sites as a "for further study" thing, though.
I don’t like beer
wanting to make it was just a way to impress my dad
but now dad’s quit drinking so its mostly gonna be me trying to prove to myself that i can
I do use small 1 gallon glass carboys for mead and testing beer recipes at small scale, and they are pretty easy to handle at that size. (Stainless all day long at 3gal+, my main fermenter is 7.5 stainless) In addition to doing a more reasonable style like a porter or a pale, a first timer shouldn't be doing a 5 gallon batch IMHO. And kveik ftw if you don't have temp control.
Good point. We use 1 gallon glass carboys for small batches.
Great break down. When I first started looking for videos on Home brewing I seen Josh's video first and stopped watching it about 2 minutes in. Couldn't stand his voice or face. Then came across claw hammer videos and was also turned off cause it seemed to be to silly to me. Ultimately I found The brushow and apartment brewer and watched the hell out of their videos. After brewing for a little while I now enjoy watching claw hammer videos cause you guys are silly and I can still pick up great tid-bits of helpful information now that I know more about the names and terms of things related to brewing. Still cant finish watching Josh's video though. lol
Oh, and glass fermenters are very dangerous to the untrained homebrewer. I have a 3 gallon for making large lager starters and a 6 gallon never used but on standby for mixed fermentation.
Not hating here but if he brings any of his viewers into the community, you benefit.
excellent video!
I mean video is solid, only one issue. You held that beer for 7 minuites and only took two sips maybe...
shots fired on TH-cam algo. cheers
Great stuff as always!
LOVE THIS VIDEO!!! I see that French dude copying the Grocery store ingredients home brew; has millions of views... We ALL know that was Barley and the Hops TV and several people have tried the same thing but NO ONE wanted to plug his channel. Bearded and Bored was the only dude that didnt try to take credit for someone elses work.
Ballistic BBQ ALWAYS lets people know where he got the recipe or idea from as well.
Its classless to steal someone else's work and not point your finger in the direction you took it from. Guga does that sh*t too. Like he knew WTF a fondant potato was before he watched Chef John.
In Josh's defense. His video is more ideal for beginners as it does not get very technical and it covers most of the basics. When I first started brewing I didn't really care for the technical aspect of brewing until I actually started brewing.
I agree with you here. Fine video, but not the best advice. Looking back, I got some questionable advice at the start from various sources. Including home brew shops. No problem calling that out.
Lmao, try throwing some shade in your next reaction video
Although not intended, this video comes across a bit like 'sour grapes'. I mean, with 6.5M subscribers he could literally do a video on taking a dump and it would race to the top of the 'charts'. As @thebrusho says, he has an opportunity to introduce this beautiful thing we love called 'homebrewing' to so many more people and that can only be a good thing. These people can then refine and hone their skills by watching quality homebrewing channels like yours, to produce the best beer they can. Love your channel ...
Also critiquing Josh's pouring technique whilst drinking from a simple mug.
This definitely sounds like Clawhammer has ass-pain from nit having the same number of subscribers.
Brewing in next couple weeks. Great informational video! @JoshuaWeissman and @AltonBrown beer brewing videos make me feel like I can. They make it look easy. 🙌🏽 Researching the safe, proper, and tips from pros makes the process successful. Thanks cheers!
I've been a homebrewer for 3 years and still haven't acquired a taste for saison, they just not for me. Also glass carboys are amazing, I would highly recommend provided you are paranoid about safety. They clean super easy with chemicals such as caustic, and are completely immune to pretty much all chemicals which plastic and even steel aren't. Take care of your carboy and it will literally last forever
Great video!
Please add Party Time Brewing to the list.
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I think the video was a nice introduction but I agree, even the best saison ever can be funky and yeasty and people who drink mainly macro lagers might think that they messed up. Besides that I think the video is mainly positive for homebrewing as a whole.
I subscribe Joshua cause his recipes are damm delicious. And I had to admit that it was also him who bring me to this hobby. Cause I saw that video via my recomended and I was like "Is it really that simple ? Lemme try :D Since that day it´s been 2 years and I´ve brew almost 20 batches of beer ... But still no saison :D So I actually understand what r you trying to say.
Lol im literally making his sandwich bread for probably the 50th time right now, but id never follow his beer making video and im just watching videos to decide if an how i wanna get started. Hes a good cook, but ill get my beer brewing info from people who do it everyday
Lot of weird comments... Fanboys of this guy? Never heard of him for beer or cooking. I watch a lot of both cooking and beer videos. Just searched and he comes up 3rd now. Yes, a LOT of not great advice from a complete novice. I wouldn't recommend his video either. My first TH-cam video was John Palmer how to brew all grain beer because when I used to use extract, TH-cam didn't exist... AOL was just starting to send out floppy disks.
Also saison kick ass. Problem is most Americans grew up on shitty beer and then blew their palettes out on hops. Doesn't help that every brewery I visit is a dozen IPA and a couple stouts. I guess that's this one guys saving grace is he picked a much better style.
And no to glass carboys.
You know i was thinking what is molasses then i research and found out its one of the most common thing in my country and we have lots of varieties of them. And we use them on lot of food 😂😂
I started with hiss videos and found my way to yours. So he's boosting your results. You should send him a thank you card for helping your algorithm.
I rolled my eyes the moment I saw him do a beer recipe lol. Just riding the wave.
I agree 100%... I sub his channel and think he is super great too... But you would think he give some love to the pros with few shout outs to other channels... At the end of the day I don't come to a brew channel to find out how to make the best pizza and I will not go to a food channel to find out how to brew the best NEIPA haha 😂😂😂 May you both keep kicking ass at what ya doooo
Is it possible to grow more yeast out of yeast?
Yep. It's a good way to save on having to buy new yeast every time.
Dammmm we got beef boyz !
Do a collab maybe and promote different brewing channels he would probably be down
what about the boys at basicbrewing
Here's the thing: beer is freaking tight.
My issue with Joshua’s vid is that he is making homebrewing look like a walk in the park, which already isn’t if you have great equipment, imagine then with a stove top, glass fermenter, bottle conditioning (with saison yeast!).
There’s a specific main process to follow and that one, granted, is not complicated, it’s straightforward and repetitive. But to make GOOD beer, there’s way more to that. And as a longtime home/pro brewer I don’t want people thinking “oh yeah, that’s pretty easy, huh?” and they can do what I do because they watched Joshua’s go at homebrewing like it was done 30 years ago. Also, I can’t put my money on that beer having turned out great. Why? Let’s face it, first time brews are - most of the time - “meh” at most. And the dude is not even a beer drinker, how can I take his word at knowing if that saison turned out like a saison should turn out? At the end of the day, even if he KNOWS the beer sucks he can’t just dump it down the drain in front of 3 million viewers, can he?
So yeah, maybe next time, if he wants to “teach” hot to homebrew, he should invite someone more experienced to participate on his video. And maybe, at least, some recommendations to all of the amazing brew tubers out there wouldn’t be bad either. Cheers!
maybe he doesn't like beer 'cause he started with a homemade saison haha. some of the local micro and nano brewers round my parts have made some very light saisons with a lot of finesse, but I can't imagine achieving that as a new homebrewer! for me it was that spicy/sharp flavour profile, often completely overbearing. sort of like trying to eat hot peppers for the first time, something you should do by using a tiny amount mixed in with the right food.
Glass has to be less chemically invasive than plastic though no?
Sorry, my 6 glass fermenters have served me well for 30 years now - I’m not going to landfill them and buy new plastic or imported stainless product just cause glass is passé. Cheers to those recycling used ones.
If you want to do a video for new brewers getting into the hobby, how about one on being resourceful finding used equipment. People are giving up on homebrewing as fast as they are entering - yet everyone buys a new setup? Maybe that video will rank #2 to JW?
True. homebrew 4 life does a great job talking about what and where to buy used…
Ok, so there are definitely worse home brew videos on TH-cam both in production and information. He gets mostly everything right but makes some assumptions and attempts to talk from an authority he doesn’t really have. I personally do not like Saison no judgement to those that do but I like beer flavored beer and doing a pale or blonde ale for a beginner video is probably the better route and room temp fermentation is fine for either. However if it’s a hobby that bites you then after a brew or two you will be looking for a mini fridge or other means of temp control I think I had three brews under my belt before I jumped into temp control and fancy fermenters. I am still using the same kettles because they work but one day I’ll probably pull the trigger on a claw hammer.
It’s like when a non coffee drinker makes coffee at work. Just stop, let someone that knows coffee make the coffee. Same goes for beer
Every tap has an aerator in it these days to save water. When topping up the bucket the cold water is already aerated. Also none of the extract or BIAB kit recipes ever mentioned aeration. I would say the aeration is only needed when you boil the entire 23l batch in a AIO brewer or something similar.
Even if half the water in your fermenter is fresh out of the faucet and aerated, the other half you just boiled will be almost devoid of oxygen. Why not aerate and make sure the yeast have all the O2 they need? There's no downside and can only benefit the fermentation.