This like the article of Charlies Angels Reboot. Headline 1: "Men, step a side. This film isn't for you" (Movie Flops) Headline 2: "Why Men Didn't Show up to support this film?!"
That's funny but if we are being real most of those people are either watching reruns of great shows, watching new non woke Anime, or playing one of thousands of great video games like the new Stellar Blade for example! ... No one only has the options of watching Woke garbage or touching grass LOL!
I'm remembering a scene from the simpsons when Marge gets rid of the itchy and scratchy show and the kids all play outside, only this time it's cause the terrible studios hating on their audience.
As someoen gay, I hate this nonsense of "We want fans who come in for the representation." I'm not a sheep. I'm not going to come watch your show because someone is gay. If I was a writer, director, or an actor, I do not want fans who care about my work because of my sexuality or the sexuality of my characters. This shallow 'fanbase' is not the fanbase anyone should want to foster.
have you or anyone else, they insist on representing, expressed your feelings on the matter to them, on any of the usual sites? what was their reaction or the average reaction?
@@cannibaletiquette5038 If you have an opinion that runs contrary to the Twitter Activist type of person, it pretty much gets tossed in the trash quickly. You're basically just going to be seen as wrong by default or that you don't speak for everyone. At worst you're a pick me, traitor, uncle Tom, ect. At the end of the day it isn't about listening to the voices of the minority, it's about listening to people parrot your own opinions.
This is why I keep insisting on not using LGHDTV to describe gay people. As that moniker will come to tarnish all gay people when the backlash will happen. Why I advice all gay people who are based to distance themselves from this cult. Because the T's and their crazy followers will drag you all down with them into the abyss.
Let me fix that quote for you: "For every hundred regular fans who don't give a crap what race, gender, or sexual orientation an actor is so long as it's not shoved right up in their face, there are going [to] be three to five weirdos who will hear that Doctor Who now has ideological representation, and will watch one or two episodes before they realize that it's a science fiction show and quickly lose interest."
And many of the will never even watch the show. They’ll just drop a tweet “hey all you straight, white, cis-gendered toxic males! Doctor Who is ours now!” And leave it all that.
@@denshoni I'm imagining a dude asking a girl on a date to a Marvel/Star Wars movie in 2024 and it makes me laugh just thinking about what that conversation would be like.
As a Brit, I can say with some authority that nice weather never stopped us watching anything that people really want to watch. As an example, the national grid brings more power generation capacity online for the half time break of big football matches. This makes sure the grid can supply all the kettles being switched on for a cup of tea. Brits will glue themselves to the TV if something worth watching is on.
They are still hiding from the monsters, the only difference now is that those monsters don't want to kill them but touch them inappropriately instead. That's Disney for you...
They do have all the excuses ready. We’re either racist, homophobic, transphobic or all three. Personally I lost interest in Who during Matt Smith’s run. I’m bowtiephobic.
YES, to both. The "sane LGBTQ" community hates this stuff as much as the normies. And Cap'n Jack was 100% the coolest character! I loved how they played with his sexuality.
@@kateshiningdeer3334 The sane LG & B's need to divest themselves from the T's and the Q's, because they will drag you down with them into the Götterdammerung that will follow when the backlash will happen. Their insanity will tarnish all of you. Better yet, stop using LGHDTV to describe yourself period, it is a tarnished brand, like Bud Lite, or Disney.
All LGBT+ people are like ~0.5-2% of each population in most countries. Maybe 4% in America. Even BBC admitted that. 2.2% in the UK I think. It's just a very loud minority with access to public media and unlimited money from powerful groups that support LGBT movement.
@@kateshiningdeer3334 Pretty much a lot of the gay/trans audience hate this kind of stuff as much as anyone else because strange as it may seem to these show writers they're real people with real tastes and liked the original show as much as anyone else and may or may not dislike the changes (some people do seem to like them).
Christ, this is Velma all over again. I'm also really not liking this whole trend of people in media getting way too sassy and lashing out against potential customers.
It's been around since Ghostbusters 2016. I don't even take offense at it anymore, I see it as a sign of us winning. The more they attack their own customers, the greater the chance of that their w0ke product will fail. Or is failing.
They're going to have the same response given to them, as many times as it takes, until they finally learn that you don't tell the audience to shove off
They do that over and over and over and always seem SO shocked when it backfires on them. Isn't that the textbook definition of insanity... doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?
Here's the best solution to this fiasco, hire a writer who's loyal to the original 20th century lore and hire a great actor to play the doctor, like Morgan Freeman or Idris Elba. Not only does Ncuti Gatwa not have the star power to grow a real fanbase, the political messages are a huge turn off for millions who preferred to be entertained instead of lectured.
It would be too expensive to have a big name outside of a special. The witcher lost Henry Cavill and doctor who is way more tarnished than the witcher at this point, so my hopes of a Dr who comeback are dashed after David tenant returned and dug the grave a little deeper
I don't agree with your assessment. I do think that RTD would be the perfect Showrunner and Ncuti Gatwa is a great cast for Dr. Who. What kills the vibe is the constant "They / Them" or whatever Pronoun. I absolutely don't give a "xxxx" if the Actor is gay or a certain role is bisexual, trans or whatever. I just don't want it to be a focus of the storyline. Have as many nonbinary people as you want, but don't force feed me the social justice warrior bs all the time. Watch "It's a sin" from RTD, which handles the Aids epidemic in London. YES in that kind of series it should be a mayor part of the story, not so in a family-centered TV-Show.
@@voinuppla I don't see how that is a response to any of the above comments. On the unrelated notes that you've brought up. RTD and Ncuti Gatwa are pushing and want to keep pushing alternative sexual lifestyles. They care way more about that than telling any story good or bad (bad from what I've seen/heard)
@@wambutu7679Ooh what if they got a whole new crew and redid it like these last two Doctors were a weird fever dream while Capaldi was ACTUALLY regenerating?
@@Brittanysplittany When the BBC loses the rights for pennies on the dollar (pence on the pound?) I suspect the new holders will do exactly that. Dr. Who is the one franchise that might survive this woke bullcrap because of its very nature. But until then it doesn't matter what Disney and the BBC do with the skin suit they put on to pretend it's Doctor Who because..., the 12th Doctor is still regenerating. 😉 Spread the good news! 👍
I was in 2 major bookstore chains this last weekend. I scoured the entire stores looking for any Doctor Who items I could find. Besides a few classic Who DVD's there was literally nothing else available. No books or novels. No figures or sonic screwdrivers. No Tardis's or Daleks. Nothing! Turn the clock back a mere 10 years ago (to a much better time) and you could literally trip over Who merchandise all over the stores. If that isn't telling I don't know what is
@@silentcrow6334 You're not wrong, but, to be fair in his case, I think the roles they give him either are written specifically for him, or put him into roles where he would already fit.
@@XianHu Black adam was a huge miscast, the rock doesnt want to be portrayed as a bad guy so they just made black adam an anti hero for no reason lol, i like him as a wrestler but an actor for movies.... Not so much.
@@silentcrow6334 Physically-wise and looks-wise the Rock is fantastic for Black Adam, even before the film was made he was already fan favorite for the casting. And Black Adam is already an anti-hero in the comics version. Problem is the movie has a different, bland meaning of "anti-hero" than the comics (he kills his enemies) which is a drop in the bucket of the things he is known for (ie. genocide). And then they put Justice Society in the film then focused on that kid and the mom instead of just fleshing out Black Adam, did Hollywood forget about Spiderman 3? And then desperately made it more Justice League/DC related than Shazam-verse which made Shazam like the odd man out fighting villains nobody cares about like in Shazam 2 instead of the awaited Shazam vs Black Adam. Oh and yeah the Rock sucks in acting, but he's way more lethargic in this film than he usually is.
Hey Don ! I am now officially your 6th subscriber on TH-cam !! Yay 🎉🎉 But yeah, it's all so tiresome AND they never seem to learn their lesson !?! They have become so consumed with political narratives and activism...
When you have engaging characters, you market the characters. When you have an exciting story, you market the story. When you have an immersive world, you market the world. When all you have to market your show is “look! Gays of color!!” It tells me you don’t have engaging characters, exciting writing, or cool world building to sell your story.
Nine Tenths of the population of THE ENTIRE PLANET don't want identity politics in ANYTHING they watch... Even the people that THINK that identity politics is important.
@@liljenborg2517 Yeah alot of traits they like to market for these characters. Is normally stuff you can tell, just by looking at them. Thinking the viewer is blind or can't tell, the character has these traits just from listening to them and seeing how they act. Which often they make these characters that single trait they promote, while having little to nothing else to them. With these traits often having little to nothing to do with the plot or story. By chance it does, it often so force and hammer in, you can tell it lacking in quality. Forgetting a good character, is meant to be more than just a single trait. Meant to be a collection of traits. Have things they like, dislike, that all collect and fit together like a good puzzle. Alot of people don't care about what the character is but who the character is. Of course they will just go and blame the fans, as being pure evil. For ah yes, science fiction fans, who are use to seeing lots of different things, who look nothing like them, different point of views and ways of thinking. Are of course the evil closed minded folk. For they can't accept, they put out low quality trash very few if anyone wants.
As a non white foreigner that grew up watching Doctor Who, what a letdown it is to look at the state the show is now, another show ruined by people with a savior complex and white guilt.
Whats there to be mad about? Are they not feeling any sense of pride and accomplishment fostering their imaginary audience, raking in tons of fake dollar bills, cheering around their pc established bubble?
oh you know they are going to blame the fans they actively drove away for this. Since this is disney. they can't handle anyone saying something negative about them. They always need scapegoat or someone to pin the blame on.
I watched a more in depth review of ep 1 earlier. Let me sum it up based on what I have heard: The Doctor and co arrive on a space station being run by babies. They live in terror of a violently aggressive monster made from their snot that lives on the lower decks. However Snot Lives Matter so the snot monster doesn't end up being blown out the airlock. The Doctor then uses the methane collecting in the hold to literally fart the space station to a better place. Correct me if I missed anything.
One reviewer said they belonged on the planet right below them but decided to 'illegally emigrate' to another one. Along with the thinly veiled abortion message they squeezed in 2 local US political issues in Ep 1. Haven't seen a review on 2 yet.
I say this all the time. As a gay guy I do not support stuff like this. It is like I am at a restaurant and I take a bite of a steak. The steak is cold. I ask for a new steak. They take the steak away, come back later and that steak is the same steak with my own bite still out of it. But now it's just covered with glitter. They go "Here you go, it's gay now just like you. You are welcome" I don't need an established straight character becoming gay all of a sudden. I want a new character. Changing a straight character that has been straight for decades suddenly gay is not representation. It's low hanging fruit attempts to try and get my money.
The Day of the Doctor was the perfect capstone and ending to the series. It resolved the Time War and gave the Doctor closure: 'It's taken me so many years- so many *lifetimes,* but at last I know where I'm going. Where I've always been going... Home, the long way around...' I'm so glad I ended there...
ALL the great who is still there. it is always there even if the high seas must be sailed. they can never take away what came before, they can only loose the viewers of the now.
Bringing back old creators doesn't always work out so well, George Lucas is back at SW rumors! Prequels when he had the most control over he gets the least respect for plus he's 80
UK here, they can have it, they can call me a bigot ect.. When you start a show, on a children's platform, telling a policeman "ive just been snow-maned, and going home". You proved to everyone what you're doing.. Talking about a sex act (think its illegal too) the start of a new show. Call me whatever you want to, its wrong, sick and grooming in my opinion.
I haven't watched, but I have a relative who is pretty flamboyantly gay, and is a lifetime hardcore Doctor Who fan. He watched the new episodes and sent me a message saying "That was too gay even for me, I'm out, don't even bother"
I've said it before and I'll say it again, when I started school in the late seventies and early 80's, where I am from in the UK, kid's birthday parties stopped for Doctor Who. It was mostly shown in Autumn through winter, but I remember in Summer when they would repeat some older episode's play would stop for those too. I do need to point out of course that I 'm from a low wage working class area so most people didn't have video's, so there is that, but still it was a very iconic programme.
They got what they wanted!! The people that they we're advertising to didn't even show up either. That's what they get for telling us that they hate us and we don't want you here. The die hard fans walked away or just kept on enjoying the older seasons.
Strangely enough I've never actually seen this "modern audience" show up for anything. Even Barbie was largely older fans bringing along daughters or seeing it with friends.
Im gay and loved the Classic Who and never needed to see myself in it but loved the show. I want a good scifi show. Highly doubt Doccy Who will get better in the ratings.
The best thing about that article is the BBC are telling BBC TV Licence payers not to watch it yet you can be fined £1000 or face prison if you don't pay the BBC TV Licence
Hey Kendrick ! I am now officially your 16th subscriber on TH-cam !! Yay 🎉🎉 But yeah, doesn't seem like they would eventually learn their lesson ?? But they never do...
As the saying goes, "be careful with what you wish for. You just might get it." I don't even watch "Doctor Who" & I knew that this is a disaster in the making.
What is up with directors, actors, writers openly hating fans?? Do they not realize they're in a business i.e. have too make money?? Talk about garbage parenting or they're just egomaniacs
Yea, and the audiences that they keep trying to "attract" don't like it either. And they keep doing this over an over and over again. An they've been doing this for 5+ years now... the "Midnight Mountain" better be paying these dum-dums their own weight in dosh cause there's no way they can keep this up much longer!
In a nutshell, Hollywood created its own echo chamber that reinforced their egos to the point that they believe they are cultural saviors who need to "convert" the rest of the world
Because they are not relying on the risk of audience money anymore. They no longer need to worry about being good enough or to make good enough content
Money and capitalism is evil, just ask them. They are neo-marxists who hate the West and hate anyone who disagrees with them, and think that the "common person" will watch because The Party has spoken. They don't realize that most people think they are insane.
Doctor Woke: If you go outside and touch grass, you're a bigot! Doctor Who Fans: Hey, you told us to go touch grass and we did, you can't tell us to touch grass then call us bigots for touching grass, you can't have it both ways.
His writing has always been terrible. He just got a free pass because a) he brought the show back, b) Midnight, and c) getting fandom speculating and engaged.
Nothing more satisfying than getting a ride on and mowing that grass,thats called touching grass at the very best level..it beats laying face down on it or if your a sheepie eating it.
I watched two episodes when Jodi Whittaker 'played' the Doctor and I was Oh-you-Tee. Haven't been back yet and I seriously doubt they can convince me to ever watch any new episodes again. I still watch the older ones though.
@@Mae4Ever user is talking about My Little Pony Friendship is Magic, which is a great show, but I don't see why bringing up is relevant to Doctor Who.
Don't forgive tenant.. there are clips of him standing up for this garbage saying that they are on the right side of history.. he's just as much into this garbage as the new who cast
I don't care anymore. I have no problems with gay, transgender, black, Asian, conehead, furry. I just don't want it or 'fantasy' in Doctor Who. This show was fun before, now it's stupid and preachy.
"I have no problems with..." Well, you need to start having a problem with them. They're killing the most advanced civilization on the planet and eventually, if left to it, will cause a backlash the world hasn't seen since the 1940s. Humans have "popped this pimple" before and it's always messy.
The whole point of keeping that stuff in the closet was to prevent what we're seeing now, and worse (children being c@strated, ped0philia and be@stiality being normalized, etc).
I may get some hate for this comment, but I grew up watching Dr. Who with my Dad. I will preface by saying that I do my best to keep an open mind and let others live their lives however they choose whether I agree with it or not. That said, I am absolutely fed up with all the real world ideologies taking over the entertainment industry as a whole. From children's programming to movies, things that once were only aired on channels like Cinemax, are now ok for mainstream. Bring back morals, integrity, and common sense. Entertainment is for escaping the real world for a bit and for the love of all things good, stop shoving Adult issues onto our children. I am sure some may agree that shoving all these adult issues onto children is adding to their mental health crisis.
At this point I actually believe that cultural destruction is the actual goal. As such these shows has been very successful at accomplish what they where meant to do.
@@michaelpettersson4919 perverse incentive is only thing that makes sense here. CEOs of corporations are not stupider than the average Joe, and Larry Fink doesn't hate money.
@@michaelpettersson4919 Someone is incentivizing the cultural destruction, and it looks to me like it's China. Undermining the West furthers their global ambitions, and they have a lot of economic power to influence the people who provide capital for these kind of productions. The capital firms openly state their intention to push these agendas, someone has to be backing them up that is bigger than even them.
From a British perspective, the 2 episodes of Dr Why were followed by the Eurovision Song Contest. To represent the UK, the BBC sent a gay singer, simulating sex with a bunch of guys in a dirty locker room (no joke). For context, ESC is considered a family show and is broadcast worldwide. It gets similar audience figures to the Super Bowl, and the BBC scored zero points this year from the 180 million viewers. 👏🤣🇬🇧
@@Xbalanque84 in the UK, Dr Huh got 2.6m on the first episode, then 2.4m on the 2nd. So, nearly half the viewers from Christmas didn't come back, then 200,000 of those that did, saw the space babies and quit. 🤣 Immediately after that, 180m worldwide tuned in to watch the Eurovision and decided between them, that the song the BBC selected and had been championing for the last few months, wasn't worth a single point. Maybe people didn't enjoy seeing men cottaging in the family entertainment show? 🤯
All the ESC BBC presenters and commentator were of the same ilk as our new Dr who and our entrant in the song contest,so they really catered for the minority group that night.
Most of these brain-dead decisions are from old people that fizzled out or too untalented to cut it when talent mattered. Think about it, how much of this sht was made by people under 40?
Don't forget the failure of Mortal Kombat 1, that couldn't even restart the series as it was intended and halfway through it brings up the tired gimmick of the multiverse and villains from the previous game. What an amazing work of a overpaid writer.
It has increasingly been used to try and excuse people saying and doing things they shouldn't have, namely the rich and famous An unfortunate consequence of this is that those with genuine mental health issues are finding it increasingly difficult to be taken seriously.
Those 'high ratings' for the Christmas episode on iplayer are because the beeb had just recently put *all* the DW eps up, and so they were weaseling the numbers by reporting such high views for DW & people/journalists assumed it meant for the ep when those numbers were actually people watching _older episodes_ .
“For every bad fan we lose this season, we will get 4-5 new fans that come in for the representation” This is a statement made by someone who does not understand how audiences, humans or businesses work at all. If you were going to like a show like Dr Who, you would be watching it already. If you don’t like shows like Dr Who, replacing the main character with someone who “better identifies with you” will not make that person like the show.
I apologise for my sarcasm here: No, gay, trans and black people who didn't watch Doctor Who before are totally going to start now and they'll become bigger fans than any of its remaining obsessive geek fanbase. They'll come for representation and realise they love this silly sci-fi kids show and will absolutely watch more than one episode and won't just move on to something else they think has more credibility.
They're just so vindictive about it all. All these people taking over IPs that people loved to ruin it. It's all vindictive and on purpose. I refuse to believe they actually went into it with the desire to make a good show, much less a good show on the established IP. It's why they are going more and more ridiculous and all out with how they ruin everything.
'Vindictive,' yes that hits the nail on the head. There's such a palpable difference between DW that's been made with love & pride in the great British public and culture, and DW that's been made with elitist disdain for that same public and heritage.
Doctor Who felt dead before I realized Star Wars was being actively murdered as I watched on, helpless. The fact Disney is running Doc Who now is upsetting to me, because I liked the quintessential Englishness of DR, even in 2005. It was a fun and different franchise, and 2005 was a good year for sci fi in America.
I know. When Tennant was the Doctor I supported and loved the show. Each Saturday night I made sure I was at home watching it live, like I did when I was kid with Tom Baker etc. I wanted to see it there and then, I did not want to wait for catchup but to enjoy it live with other fans then go online to talk about it and review it etc. That was the buzz it had back then. We were also getting cool action figures, playsets and remote control Daleks etc as well as classic era figures. And they all sold like mad. Now even the merchandise has died a death, only the classic series can still sell some figures....
Back in the day, when talk shows were actually good, celebrities always came on and said everything they could to get you to watch their new project. That has stopped and been replaced with gaslighting. Wtf
According to Radio Times, the poor ratings don't include the iPlayer numbers for the overnights... Why? They have ALWAYS included the iPlayer in the overnights since the iPlayer's inception. This is the FIRST TIME they've reported the overnight ratings WITHOUT adding the iPlayer views. I bet they're buying more time to allow additional views over the week before adding them on so they can bump the numbers and make it look more successful than it is. We've seen them shift the goalposts time and time again. It's opaque at this point. And, when I filed a FOI request for the iPlayer numbers for the specials, I was refused.
Reminds me of an interview in which Rian Johnson and Mark Hamill are promoting The Last Jedi. Hamill recalls a discussion on set in which he tells Johnson "you need to think of the fans". I can't remember the exact words but Johnson in responds something along the lines of "no, we're going to make our own fans".
"The good weather affected the viewing figures" However, straight after the two 'Doctor Who' episodes, five million more people tuned in to watch the Eurovision Song Contest, even though it was still warm and sunny outside... 😶
Yes I was thinking that. The Eurocrapovision Dong contest got 8 million plus live viewers. It was a nice day though, maybe by the time the Dong contest came on it was getting dark and cooling off. I know where I live in the Uk, the whole street was sitting out in the garden. I got home myself about 7pm after spending the day out in the countryside enjoying it as well.....
@@Simon-xc5oyThe interesting thing is, usually, the programme before Eurovision receives a bump in the viewing figures by people tuning in early. It seems as though people purposefully waited until Doctor Who was over before switching on/over. Unless people did tune in early and gave a bump to the Doctor Who viewing figures, which means that the numbers watching it were even lower than thought...!
@@davidjhitchcock Well from what I saw on Saturday most people were outside in gardens, on day trips at the beach / river etc. They were still outside in gardens when the Song contest came on. I can only think that some of these, the really sad ones decided to go inside and watch a load of gay camp trans people singing badly, rather than sit out enjoying the evening. Which also makes you wonder if they like gay / camp and trans so much why did they not watch Doctor Who? Not only that but the first one got 2.6 million and the second 2.4 million. So 200,000 people did not watch the second episode. It did not increase in views as people switched on for EuroCrapovision. The whole thing is more than a bit strange and telling. People were indeed outside and the weather did draw people away, but they came back for the singing, so all you can assume is...Doctor Who was that bad it drove people away and was a total fail. It was getting dark and the night was drawing in when the singing started so maybe some people just decided to call it a day, go in and turn the tv on....and watch any old crap and that was Eurovision. I know my neighbours around me do and did exactly that. I did not get in myself till it was dusk, then I was pottering with the car in the garage, went in for a cup of tea and watched Miami Vice then Clarksons Farm, that was my night. You could not pay me to watch Doctor Who or Eurovision now....
Which ACTUALLY is a brilliant premise for a Mind Robber meets Trial Of A Time Lord type plot line if there was a Screen writer capable of delivering it (a kind of Zen Buddhist version of The Trueman Show but set in the Time Lord APC Matrix).
People want to watch interesting, engaging characters, not characters whose defined solely by their race, gender, and/or sexuality. The moment they wanted to make absolutely sure that the audience knew that Doctor Who was going to be gay and black, that was it. Game over for Doctor Who.
I'm a grown man with adequate armaments, and yet the Weeping Angels scared the absolute crap out of me! I tried watching the one episode with Whitaker and large spiders (no fan of spiders), and that was a serious dud. I want Doctor Who episodes that scares me, make me think about time/space possibilities, and the wonders of different alien species. This new Doctor Who ain't it. It hasn't been it for awhile.
It keeps astounding me that they think chasing away their core audience to be a solid business practice, specially when there is no new audience coming to replace it.
I am not white, nor american or british, never needed to see myself in the show to enjoy it, now it doesn't even look like a british show anymore instead it looks like any other generic show made for the international market (a show for everyone that really is for no one).
Remember when the title "Doctor Who" suggested that he was a mysterious, otherworldly stranger? Yeah, I miss those days. Now we're all up in his booty. Yuck!
Torchwood was always intended for a mature audience and its timing in the schedule reflected that. But this is going out in its traditional Saturday teatime slot and is still supposedly pitched at a "family audience". Ugh. Davies is clearly doing with/to the Doctor now what he wanted to do with him back in 2005, but knew he couldn't get away with, which is why we got Captain Jack inserted (oo - er missus) into the series.
Ncutti Gatwa "Turn off the TV. Go and touch grass."
Audience "Your terms are acceptable"
"WHAT ARE YOU A RACHEST? DO YOU NOT LIKE BLACK MAN AS DAWCTAR?"
I enjoy nature. See you all outside!
Yeah if I want to see shit moving, I'd go outside and watch the birds poop.
well, grass has yet to insult me and everyone can enjoy it, i say it has the upper hand already
Watching grass grow is more entertaining than Dr WTF
This like the article of Charlies Angels Reboot.
Headline 1: "Men, step a side. This film isn't for you" (Movie Flops)
Headline 2: "Why Men Didn't Show up to support this film?!"
Totally ignoring the other side of the coin "Why Women Didn't Show up to support this film?!" - As usual never women's fault.
WNBA anyone?
@@sharkytoolI thought they renamed that the TNBA? I mean, they let a lot of men pretending to be women play.
@@rwuttke Gynocentric dictatorship ftw.
@@Qardo I really don't know why 50% are not wang holders. lots of failed collage players can find great success there.
Looks like most people decided not only to “touch grass” but would rather watch grass grow
It's so peaceful.
They rather watch paint dry than to watch anything modern
That's funny but if we are being real most of those people are either watching reruns of great shows, watching new non woke Anime, or playing one of thousands of great video games like the new Stellar Blade for example! ... No one only has the options of watching Woke garbage or touching grass LOL!
it's pretty relaxing honestly
I'm remembering a scene from the simpsons when Marge gets rid of the itchy and scratchy show and the kids all play outside, only this time it's cause the terrible studios hating on their audience.
1963: "Hey kids! Here's science and history!"
2024: "Hey kids! Here's sexual identity!"
Slight correction: “Here’s a made up sexual identity…”
And is it any wonder the wokaectivists don't have basic skills like computing math & reading comprehension lol.
Many US Public schools are doing the same thing
No you don't get it! Dr Who is black AND gay. ...so that makes it good.. ..right? ....right?
@@Muljinn or in the case of the villain Maestro, "here's a man with a misogynistic fêtîsh for dressing up and acting like a parody of a woman" 😒
Peter Capaldi said it best, almost as a prophecy. "Doctor, I let you go."
And I did exactly that.
Doctor woke: "Go away, we don't want or need you!!"
Fans: "Okay."
Doctor woke: "Why is nobody watching our show?"
Fans: "You told us to"
they REALLY don't understand economics at the simplest level.
I'm a fan. I didn't have time to watch it on Saturday. I watched it last night
Fans; "... why are we paying for this garbage?!? *BUGGER OFF BBC!"*
2 weeks from now- Dr. Who: the UK is racist. Ur all mediocre White ppl and I'm a genius
As someoen gay, I hate this nonsense of "We want fans who come in for the representation."
I'm not a sheep. I'm not going to come watch your show because someone is gay. If I was a writer, director, or an actor, I do not want fans who care about my work because of my sexuality or the sexuality of my characters.
This shallow 'fanbase' is not the fanbase anyone should want to foster.
have you or anyone else, they insist on representing, expressed your feelings on the matter to them, on any of the usual sites? what was their reaction or the average reaction?
gay too, 100% what you said, is so fking tiring they think so low of us
@cannibaletiquette5038 Internalized Homophobia and self hating gay or minority if that applies. Those are some I've seen tossed around.
@@cannibaletiquette5038 If you have an opinion that runs contrary to the Twitter Activist type of person, it pretty much gets tossed in the trash quickly. You're basically just going to be seen as wrong by default or that you don't speak for everyone. At worst you're a pick me, traitor, uncle Tom, ect.
At the end of the day it isn't about listening to the voices of the minority, it's about listening to people parrot your own opinions.
This is why I keep insisting on not using LGHDTV to describe gay people. As that moniker will come to tarnish all gay people when the backlash will happen. Why I advice all gay people who are based to distance themselves from this cult. Because the T's and their crazy followers will drag you all down with them into the abyss.
Attacking fans before the show even airs is a sure sign of quality.
Straight from the Disney playbook.
Tbf, it’s the only form of quality they have left.
@@steventhomas2856the last playbook anyone should borrow from
Getting the digs in early to justify why the numbers start tanking…
They tell you, with every turn of the wheel that they. HATE. YOUR. GUTS.
turning a generations long adventure story for all ages into a gay camp musical doesn't sound terribly inclusive.
Dr who? Check.
MCU? Check.
Star Wars? Check.
Comic books? Check.
Gaming? Check.
Anime and Korean shows??? Not yet but they are trying hard.
And I hope the Asian entertainment holds strong. 🙏
Also Star Trek.
40k
D&D? Check
If it makes money, it's a target for Black rock
There are people on Twitter literally blaming this on the weather.
Mental Asylums should make a comeback....
@@ellugerdelacruz2555 They have we call then colleges and universities.
Pathetic as fuck
The Tardis can't travel in bad weather, bigot 😂
How? If the weather is so bad that you stay inside wouldn't more people tune in to watch it?
Let me fix that quote for you: "For every hundred regular fans who don't give a crap what race, gender, or sexual orientation an actor is so long as it's not shoved right up in their face, there are going [to] be three to five weirdos who will hear that Doctor Who now has ideological representation, and will watch one or two episodes before they realize that it's a science fiction show and quickly lose interest."
And many of the will never even watch the show. They’ll just drop a tweet “hey all you straight, white, cis-gendered toxic males! Doctor Who is ours now!” And leave it all that.
3 to 5 is still generous
More like for every one fan they will go and tell 3-5 friends not to bother watching it either.
@@denshoni I'm imagining a dude asking a girl on a date to a Marvel/Star Wars movie in 2024 and it makes me laugh just thinking about what that conversation would be like.
They think the whole of society reflects their 'urbanite cubicle mouse' fashionable opinions. Hilarious.
These people are seriously overestimating the amount of people interested in men acting like women. It’s just so plain boring
And it's becoming less popular each time.
Who cares
As a Brit, I can say with some authority that nice weather never stopped us watching anything that people really want to watch. As an example, the national grid brings more power generation capacity online for the half time break of big football matches. This makes sure the grid can supply all the kettles being switched on for a cup of tea.
Brits will glue themselves to the TV if something worth watching is on.
The kids used to hide behind the sofa because of the monsters, they now hide behind the sofa because of the messaging.
They are still hiding from the monsters, the only difference now is that those monsters don't want to kill them but touch them inappropriately instead.
That's Disney for you...
@@Erik-Winters You're disgusting
When this show inevitably fails, they’ll blame the fans whom they said they didn’t want for not watching it
They do have all the excuses ready. We’re either racist, homophobic, transphobic or all three. Personally I lost interest in Who during Matt Smith’s run. I’m bowtiephobic.
@@ridleysaria They're already trotting out the transphobe one for people leaving. Strangely these transphobes didn't leave for Jack Harkness.
WASH, RINSE, REPEAT 🔂
It'll be moved from Saturday night to Sunday, or even a mid-week slot with viewing figures like this. Good!
I think that Disney is overestimating the size of the LGBT+ community .
Captain Jack Harkness was an awesome character.
YES, to both. The "sane LGBTQ" community hates this stuff as much as the normies.
And Cap'n Jack was 100% the coolest character! I loved how they played with his sexuality.
Yep
@@kateshiningdeer3334 The sane LG & B's need to divest themselves from the T's and the Q's, because they will drag you down with them into the Götterdammerung that will follow when the backlash will happen. Their insanity will tarnish all of you. Better yet, stop using LGHDTV to describe yourself period, it is a tarnished brand, like Bud Lite, or Disney.
All LGBT+ people are like ~0.5-2% of each population in most countries. Maybe 4% in America. Even BBC admitted that. 2.2% in the UK I think.
It's just a very loud minority with access to public media and unlimited money from powerful groups that support LGBT movement.
@@kateshiningdeer3334 Pretty much a lot of the gay/trans audience hate this kind of stuff as much as anyone else because strange as it may seem to these show writers they're real people with real tastes and liked the original show as much as anyone else and may or may not dislike the changes (some people do seem to like them).
Disney bought and ruined another show, who could’ve guessed that would happen?
So glad I cancelled my Disney subscription.
He is giving the doctor AND gays a bad name.
I am gay, i have a husband. I dont feel represented i feel insulted.
I stopped watching because Gatwa wanted me to. I didn't want to disappoint him.
You stopped watching because Gatwa wanted you to.
I stopped watching because Whittaker and Chibnall wanted me to.
We are not the same.
Christ, this is Velma all over again.
I'm also really not liking this whole trend of people in media getting way too sassy and lashing out against potential customers.
It's been around since Ghostbusters 2016. I don't even take offense at it anymore, I see it as a sign of us winning. The more they attack their own customers, the greater the chance of that their w0ke product will fail. Or is failing.
They're going to have the same response given to them, as many times as it takes, until they finally learn that you don't tell the audience to shove off
They do that over and over and over and always seem SO shocked when it backfires on them.
Isn't that the textbook definition of insanity... doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?
"Stunning and brave": code words for: "Stunned and depraved"
Stunted and depraved
Here's the best solution to this fiasco, hire a writer who's loyal to the original 20th century lore and hire a great actor to play the doctor, like Morgan Freeman or Idris Elba. Not only does Ncuti Gatwa not have the star power to grow a real fanbase, the political messages are a huge turn off for millions who preferred to be entertained instead of lectured.
The solution is to shut the whole thing down and not ruin it any more.
And that fool wouldn't shut up for five minutes.
It would be too expensive to have a big name outside of a special. The witcher lost Henry Cavill and doctor who is way more tarnished than the witcher at this point, so my hopes of a Dr who comeback are dashed after David tenant returned and dug the grave a little deeper
I don't agree with your assessment. I do think that RTD would be the perfect Showrunner and Ncuti Gatwa is a great cast for Dr. Who. What kills the vibe is the constant "They / Them" or whatever Pronoun. I absolutely don't give a "xxxx" if the Actor is gay or a certain role is bisexual, trans or whatever. I just don't want it to be a focus of the storyline. Have as many nonbinary people as you want, but don't force feed me the social justice warrior bs all the time. Watch "It's a sin" from RTD, which handles the Aids epidemic in London. YES in that kind of series it should be a mayor part of the story, not so in a family-centered TV-Show.
@@voinuppla I don't see how that is a response to any of the above comments. On the unrelated notes that you've brought up. RTD and Ncuti Gatwa are pushing and want to keep pushing alternative sexual lifestyles. They care way more about that than telling any story good or bad (bad from what I've seen/heard)
Imagine pandering to the 0,1% and expect good results.
Doctor Who died with Capaldi. RIP
The 12th Doctor is still regenerating.
Honestly that's a great way to end it, he was amazing
@@wambutu7679Ooh what if they got a whole new crew and redid it like these last two Doctors were a weird fever dream while Capaldi was ACTUALLY regenerating?
@@Brittanysplittany
When the BBC loses the rights for pennies on the dollar (pence on the pound?) I suspect the new holders will do exactly that. Dr. Who is the one franchise that might survive this woke bullcrap because of its very nature. But until then it doesn't matter what Disney and the BBC do with the skin suit they put on to pretend it's Doctor Who because..., the 12th Doctor is still regenerating. 😉
Spread the good news! 👍
RIP Dr Who (23/11/1963 - 25/12/2017). It was nice while it lasted.
same
Except it's 2024 and we have at least one more series after this one
@@peterjermey7235 That thing that went flying over your head was the point. You missed it.
@@TheRobmcknz why 2017 and not 1981?
@@peterjermey7235 Because this person likes new who up to a point.
I was in 2 major bookstore chains this last weekend. I scoured the entire stores looking for any Doctor Who items I could find. Besides a few classic Who DVD's there was literally nothing else available. No books or novels. No figures or sonic screwdrivers. No Tardis's or Daleks. Nothing! Turn the clock back a mere 10 years ago (to a much better time) and you could literally trip over Who merchandise all over the stores. If that isn't telling I don't know what is
I don't want to see Doctor Who's Drag Race.
WhoPaul's Drag Race
Actors seem to have forgotten that they’re supposed to become the role, not make the role become them.
This is dwayne johnsons mindset lmao he always has to play himself, the big, tough goofy guy, he cant act for shit tbh.
@@silentcrow6334 You're not wrong, but, to be fair in his case, I think the roles they give him either are written specifically for him, or put him into roles where he would already fit.
@@XianHu Black adam was a huge miscast, the rock doesnt want to be portrayed as a bad guy so they just made black adam an anti hero for no reason lol, i like him as a wrestler but an actor for movies.... Not so much.
@@silentcrow6334 I haven't seen that one, but from everything I've heard, you're right. I was thinking about things like, "Central Intelligence".
@@silentcrow6334 Physically-wise and looks-wise the Rock is fantastic for Black Adam, even before the film was made he was already fan favorite for the casting. And Black Adam is already an anti-hero in the comics version.
Problem is the movie has a different, bland meaning of "anti-hero" than the comics (he kills his enemies) which is a drop in the bucket of the things he is known for (ie. genocide).
And then they put Justice Society in the film then focused on that kid and the mom instead of just fleshing out Black Adam, did Hollywood forget about Spiderman 3?
And then desperately made it more Justice League/DC related than Shazam-verse which made Shazam like the odd man out fighting villains nobody cares about like in Shazam 2 instead of the awaited Shazam vs Black Adam.
Oh and yeah the Rock sucks in acting, but he's way more lethargic in this film than he usually is.
If you make identity politics the centerpiece of your show, it’s going to crash and burn, don’t you doubt it.
Hey Don ! I am now officially your 6th subscriber on TH-cam !! Yay 🎉🎉 But yeah, it's all so tiresome AND they never seem to learn their lesson !?! They have become so consumed with political narratives and activism...
When you have engaging characters, you market the characters.
When you have an exciting story, you market the story.
When you have an immersive world, you market the world.
When all you have to market your show is “look! Gays of color!!” It tells me you don’t have engaging characters, exciting writing, or cool world building to sell your story.
Nine Tenths of the population of THE ENTIRE PLANET don't want identity politics in ANYTHING they watch... Even the people that THINK that identity politics is important.
@@liljenborg2517 Yeah alot of traits they like to market for these characters. Is normally stuff you can tell, just by looking at them. Thinking the viewer is blind or can't tell, the character has these traits just from listening to them and seeing how they act. Which often they make these characters that single trait they promote, while having little to nothing else to them. With these traits often having little to nothing to do with the plot or story. By chance it does, it often so force and hammer in, you can tell it lacking in quality.
Forgetting a good character, is meant to be more than just a single trait. Meant to be a collection of traits. Have things they like, dislike, that all collect and fit together like a good puzzle. Alot of people don't care about what the character is but who the character is. Of course they will just go and blame the fans, as being pure evil. For ah yes, science fiction fans, who are use to seeing lots of different things, who look nothing like them, different point of views and ways of thinking. Are of course the evil closed minded folk. For they can't accept, they put out low quality trash very few if anyone wants.
As a non white foreigner that grew up watching Doctor Who, what a letdown it is to look at the state the show is now, another show ruined by people with a savior complex and white guilt.
They got what they wished for so they better not complain when they fail. These brats in adult bodies don't deserve the fans.
Happy Mothers day Geeky
Whats there to be mad about? Are they not feeling any sense of pride and accomplishment fostering their imaginary audience, raking in tons of fake dollar bills, cheering around their pc established bubble?
oh you know they are going to blame the fans they actively drove away for this. Since this is disney. they can't handle anyone saying something negative about them. They always need scapegoat or someone to pin the blame on.
I watched a more in depth review of ep 1 earlier. Let me sum it up based on what I have heard:
The Doctor and co arrive on a space station being run by babies. They live in terror of a violently aggressive monster made from their snot that lives on the lower decks. However Snot Lives Matter so the snot monster doesn't end up being blown out the airlock. The Doctor then uses the methane collecting in the hold to literally fart the space station to a better place.
Correct me if I missed anything.
One reviewer said they belonged on the planet right below them but decided to 'illegally emigrate' to another one. Along with the thinly veiled abortion message they squeezed in 2 local US political issues in Ep 1. Haven't seen a review on 2 yet.
Reading your plot summary alone made me want to [CTRL-ALT-DEL]. And I've never even watched Doctor Who, even when it was supposedly good.
I say this all the time. As a gay guy I do not support stuff like this.
It is like I am at a restaurant and I take a bite of a steak. The steak is cold. I ask for a new steak. They take the steak away, come back later and that steak is the same steak with my own bite still out of it. But now it's just covered with glitter. They go "Here you go, it's gay now just like you. You are welcome"
I don't need an established straight character becoming gay all of a sudden. I want a new character. Changing a straight character that has been straight for decades suddenly gay is not representation. It's low hanging fruit attempts to try and get my money.
The Day of the Doctor was the perfect capstone and ending to the series. It resolved the Time War and gave the Doctor closure:
'It's taken me so many years- so many *lifetimes,* but at last I know where I'm going. Where I've always been going... Home, the long way around...'
I'm so glad I ended there...
ALL the great who is still there. it is always there even if the high seas must be sailed. they can never take away what came before, they can only loose the viewers of the now.
@@sharkytoolAmen and alleluia!
That's pretty much the perfect ending to modern Doctor Who, really no reason to watch "Clara Who" co-starring the Doctor played by Peter Capaldi.
@@sharkytoollose is to lose something loose means something is loose and not fixed.
The 11th Doctor is still regenerating.
“The wages of woke is broke!” - H. Cthulhu
Without respect, we reject😡✊️
Well, he may be right about this by KK was supposed to be gone years ago....
"Everything Woke turns to $@$^" - Former president of the US
@@retromeister3709 Amen, brother!
#pushthebuttonDoomcock
good luck finding the mythical "modern audience" RTD!
Bringing back old creators doesn't always work out so well, George Lucas is back at SW rumors! Prequels when he had the most control over he gets the least respect for plus he's 80
@@aleccampbell7707 Prequels were better than the og series I don't even care
@@samhobbs9116no. Just no.
@@aleccampbell7707 Original trilogy didn't have Jar Jar or CGI or even any senate hearings, prequels were so much better.
Another funny thing about the good weather excuse is that Eurovision was on immediately after Doctor who and got around 7.6 million overnight
UK here, they can have it, they can call me a bigot ect..
When you start a show, on a children's platform, telling a policeman "ive just been snow-maned, and going home". You proved to everyone what you're doing..
Talking about a sex act (think its illegal too) the start of a new show. Call me whatever you want to, its wrong, sick and grooming in my opinion.
I agree, talk of sexual preferences, groups, and activities do not belong in content geared toward children.
And they ain't coming back
Hey Zzplys ! I am now officially your 24th subscriber on TH-cam !! Yay 🎉🎉 But yeah...you're right....they certainly are not coming back...
I know I am not. This is just sad they are pushing out the dedicated fans and only want the brain dead ones instead.
@@ElectricCamelAnalyticsNo one cares.
@@oriongear2499 No one cares that no one cares
That's what you get for being DEIvisive!
I haven't watched, but I have a relative who is pretty flamboyantly gay, and is a lifetime hardcore Doctor Who fan. He watched the new episodes and sent me a message saying "That was too gay even for me, I'm out, don't even bother"
Internalised homophobia
Turns out he was straight all along, no "no homo" needed
Starting with Jodi Whittaker, they've sought the whole Cartman Trifecta, "Make it a woman, make it gay, make it lame!"
I've said it before and I'll say it again, when I started school in the late seventies and early 80's, where I am from in the UK, kid's birthday parties stopped for Doctor Who. It was mostly shown in Autumn through winter, but I remember in Summer when they would repeat some older episode's play would stop for those too. I do need to point out of course that I 'm from a low wage working class area so most people didn't have video's, so there is that, but still it was a very iconic programme.
They got what they wanted!! The people that they we're advertising to didn't even show up either. That's what they get for telling us that they hate us and we don't want you here. The die hard fans walked away or just kept on enjoying the older seasons.
Strangely enough I've never actually seen this "modern audience" show up for anything. Even Barbie was largely older fans bringing along daughters or seeing it with friends.
Wait... Stargate SG-1 is on Blu Ray now.... 10 seasons - that should keep me going for awhile
@TheMschipp Idk if you're in the UK but it's also in the box sets on sky/nowTV
@@AttackPoodle I'm in Oz mate
Well, I’ve enjoyed Doctor Who since the 1970’s, so this just makes me sad. I’ll see myself out, thank you.
I prefer the 1996 “Doctor Who” movie than this one. I used to watch the movie when it was aired on Fox back in 1996 and it was excellent.
Im gay and loved the Classic Who and never needed to see myself in it but loved the show.
I want a good scifi show.
Highly doubt Doccy Who will get better in the ratings.
The best thing about that article is the BBC are telling BBC TV Licence payers not to watch it yet you can be fined £1000 or face prison if you don't pay the BBC TV Licence
Funny how when they do stuff like this, the people who they pander to also don't watch it either.
To the surprise of who? Like they have learned nothing the last 5 years of failures that tried the same exact tactics.
Hey Kendrick ! I am now officially your 16th subscriber on TH-cam !! Yay 🎉🎉 But yeah, doesn't seem like they would eventually learn their lesson ?? But they never do...
It isn't about turning a profit, its about indoctrination.
@terenceblakely4328
Can't indoctrinate anyone if no one is watching.
As the saying goes, "be careful with what you wish for. You just might get it."
I don't even watch "Doctor Who" & I knew that this is a disaster in the making.
Everyone did
"If you don't like my politics,
*DON'T BUY MY BOOK"*
Dr Who: Hold my Bud Light!
lol
"kids have Enormous joy in the bedroom" yep we know what you are aiming for Russel
If they weren't watching in the first place they won't start watching now
What is up with directors, actors, writers openly hating fans?? Do they not realize they're in a business i.e. have too make money?? Talk about garbage parenting or they're just egomaniacs
Yea, and the audiences that they keep trying to "attract" don't like it either. And they keep doing this over an over and over again. An they've been doing this for 5+ years now... the "Midnight Mountain" better be paying these dum-dums their own weight in dosh cause there's no way they can keep this up much longer!
In a nutshell, Hollywood created its own echo chamber that reinforced their egos to the point that they believe they are cultural saviors who need to "convert" the rest of the world
Because they are not relying on the risk of audience money anymore. They no longer need to worry about being good enough or to make good enough content
Money and capitalism is evil, just ask them. They are neo-marxists who hate the West and hate anyone who disagrees with them, and think that the "common person" will watch because The Party has spoken. They don't realize that most people think they are insane.
Because they’re (possibly) Trump voters (and, therefore, obviously Yahtzees). And they can’t not vocally hate them.
Doctor Woke: If you go outside and touch grass, you're a bigot!
Doctor Who Fans: Hey, you told us to go touch grass and we did, you can't tell us to touch grass then call us bigots for touching grass, you can't have it both ways.
Are you kidding! Having it both ways is the very definition of the woke progressive mob.
They can sure try ... repeatedly!
I always felt that Russel T Davies was really overrated. It's been hilarious watching him utterly destroy what little credibility and legacy he had.
I remember cringing when The Doctor “snogged” Rose. By the current production team’s definition, I must be a straight heterophobe!
His writing has always been terrible. He just got a free pass because a) he brought the show back, b) Midnight, and c) getting fandom speculating and engaged.
Nothing more satisfying than getting a ride on and mowing that grass,thats called touching grass at the very best level..it beats laying face down on it or if your a sheepie eating it.
I watched two episodes when Jodi Whittaker 'played' the Doctor and I was Oh-you-Tee. Haven't been back yet and I seriously doubt they can convince me to ever watch any new episodes again. I still watch the older ones though.
"You are a biggot!"
"Yea? And that invalidates my argument how?"
based
Ponies are not bigots. MLP FiM is still a fun show to watch, but no woke or bigots there.
@@Musicradio77Network show turn towards the end of the ninth season
@@Musicradio77Network who’re you talking to and what are you talking about?
@@Mae4Ever user is talking about My Little Pony Friendship is Magic, which is a great show, but I don't see why bringing up is relevant to Doctor Who.
Don't forgive tenant.. there are clips of him standing up for this garbage saying that they are on the right side of history.. he's just as much into this garbage as the new who cast
Yup, this crap wont age well.
Yup. this is why my favorite doctor will always be the 4th doctor and even he was sorry he came back to the 50th anniversary seeing what it became.
Yeah, standing by the castration of his own child is... not good.
They love that thing and parrot the same talking points as often as possible.
I don't care anymore. I have no problems with gay, transgender, black, Asian, conehead, furry. I just don't want it or 'fantasy' in Doctor Who. This show was fun before, now it's stupid and preachy.
I do care about gay, trans, and furry. And if they don't like that I'll keep my money.
@@MamaMOB
"I have no problems with..." Well, you need to start having a problem with them. They're killing the most advanced civilization on the planet and eventually, if left to it, will cause a backlash the world hasn't seen since the 1940s. Humans have "popped this pimple" before and it's always messy.
The whole point of keeping that stuff in the closet was to prevent what we're seeing now, and worse (children being c@strated, ped0philia and be@stiality being normalized, etc).
@@MamaMOB The doctor is a British man not some zesty Scottish larper
Western entertainment is no longer about entertaining audiences; it's about lecturing them.
I may get some hate for this comment, but I grew up watching Dr. Who with my Dad. I will preface by saying that I do my best to keep an open mind and let others live their lives however they choose whether I agree with it or not. That said, I am absolutely fed up with all the real world ideologies taking over the entertainment industry as a whole. From children's programming to movies, things that once were only aired on channels like Cinemax, are now ok for mainstream. Bring back morals, integrity, and common sense. Entertainment is for escaping the real world for a bit and for the love of all things good, stop shoving Adult issues onto our children. I am sure some may agree that shoving all these adult issues onto children is adding to their mental health crisis.
DOCTOR WHO is dead. RIP DOCTOR WHO, STAR WARS, INDIANA JONES, and other IP from my childhood!
At this point I actually believe that cultural destruction is the actual goal. As such these shows has been very successful at accomplish what they where meant to do.
@@michaelpettersson4919 perverse incentive is only thing that makes sense here. CEOs of corporations are not stupider than the average Joe, and Larry Fink doesn't hate money.
@@michaelpettersson4919 Someone is incentivizing the cultural destruction, and it looks to me like it's China. Undermining the West furthers their global ambitions, and they have a lot of economic power to influence the people who provide capital for these kind of productions. The capital firms openly state their intention to push these agendas, someone has to be backing them up that is bigger than even them.
"And if you don't like my BS don't watch my show!"
Your terms are acceptable.
‘RRRRRAAAAAACCCCIIIIIISSSSST!!!!!!’
From a British perspective, the 2 episodes of Dr Why were followed by the Eurovision Song Contest. To represent the UK, the BBC sent a gay singer, simulating sex with a bunch of guys in a dirty locker room (no joke). For context, ESC is considered a family show and is broadcast worldwide. It gets similar audience figures to the Super Bowl, and the BBC scored zero points this year from the 180 million viewers. 👏🤣🇬🇧
Wait, were those numbers for Doctor What-What, In-The-Butt, ESC, or both?
@@Xbalanque84 in the UK, Dr Huh got 2.6m on the first episode, then 2.4m on the 2nd. So, nearly half the viewers from Christmas didn't come back, then 200,000 of those that did, saw the space babies and quit. 🤣
Immediately after that, 180m worldwide tuned in to watch the Eurovision and decided between them, that the song the BBC selected and had been championing for the last few months, wasn't worth a single point. Maybe people didn't enjoy seeing men cottaging in the family entertainment show? 🤯
All the ESC BBC presenters and commentator were of the same ilk as our new Dr who and our entrant in the song contest,so they really catered for the minority group that night.
@@paul-t-geist4245 true, I doubt they know what the world is actually like outside their bubble.
OMG! Our entry for Eurovision was complete trash. 🤢
It's a musical because Disney got a hold of it and that's all they know how to do
Doctor Who has been replaced by Doctor What-What, In-The-Butt's Drag Show.
Xbox 1, D&D ONE, Dr Who S1. This generation has no creativity. 'Let's just pretend we made everything first!'
They don’t even pretend. They don’t enjoy the hobbies so paid no attention to what came before and genuinely don’t know what came before but better.
Most of these brain-dead decisions are from old people that fizzled out or too untalented to cut it when talent mattered.
Think about it, how much of this sht was made by people under 40?
Its peak "year zero" thinking. Destroy the past, we are the new beginning.
Why drag Xbox into this? They weren’t pretending they made something first lmao, the gimmick was it was an all in one entertainment system.
Don't forget the failure of Mortal Kombat 1, that couldn't even restart the series as it was intended and halfway through it brings up the tired gimmick of the multiverse and villains from the previous game. What an amazing work of a overpaid writer.
I wasn't touching grass, I was watching paint dry. It was very soothing after all of that cringe.
"Mental health" has been tossed around so much it's useless.
The ones in the most need of mental health help are using their issue as their "identity" and will attack you if you dare say that they need help.
It has increasingly been used to try and excuse people saying and doing things they shouldn't have, namely the rich and famous
An unfortunate consequence of this is that those with genuine mental health issues are finding it increasingly difficult to be taken seriously.
It benefits scam therapists--like BetterHelp. Gen alpha is doomed to be perpetually scammed.
Those 'high ratings' for the Christmas episode on iplayer are because the beeb had just recently put *all* the DW eps up, and so they were weaseling the numbers by reporting such high views for DW & people/journalists assumed it meant for the ep when those numbers were actually people watching _older episodes_ .
“For every bad fan we lose this season, we will get 4-5 new fans that come in for the representation”
This is a statement made by someone who does not understand how audiences, humans or businesses work at all. If you were going to like a show like Dr Who, you would be watching it already. If you don’t like shows like Dr Who, replacing the main character with someone who “better identifies with you” will not make that person like the show.
I apologise for my sarcasm here:
No, gay, trans and black people who didn't watch Doctor Who before are totally going to start now and they'll become bigger fans than any of its remaining obsessive geek fanbase. They'll come for representation and realise they love this silly sci-fi kids show and will absolutely watch more than one episode and won't just move on to something else they think has more credibility.
He's an Industry Plant. He doesn't even know he's being used.
Tried to warn you… 🤦♀️
Yet we ignored it and only have ourselves to blame besides the showrunners.
They're just so vindictive about it all. All these people taking over IPs that people loved to ruin it. It's all vindictive and on purpose. I refuse to believe they actually went into it with the desire to make a good show, much less a good show on the established IP. It's why they are going more and more ridiculous and all out with how they ruin everything.
'Vindictive,' yes that hits the nail on the head.
There's such a palpable difference between DW that's been made with love & pride in the great British public and culture, and DW that's been made with elitist disdain for that same public and heritage.
Yep, a culture war, Movies, Music and now they're doing after the gaming industry hardcore
I think if 3 to 5 new fans were gonna come for every one that left for the representation that would have happened during Jodies era, and it didn't.
Doctor Who felt dead before I realized Star Wars was being actively murdered as I watched on, helpless.
The fact Disney is running Doc Who now is upsetting to me, because I liked the quintessential Englishness of DR, even in 2005. It was a fun and different franchise, and 2005 was a good year for sci fi in America.
Wasnt watched because of good weather. They clearly dont understand Nerds.
I know. When Tennant was the Doctor I supported and loved the show. Each Saturday night I made sure I was at home watching it live, like I did when I was kid with Tom Baker etc. I wanted to see it there and then, I did not want to wait for catchup but to enjoy it live with other fans then go online to talk about it and review it etc. That was the buzz it had back then. We were also getting cool action figures, playsets and remote control Daleks etc as well as classic era figures. And they all sold like mad. Now even the merchandise has died a death, only the classic series can still sell some figures....
Back in the day, when talk shows were actually good, celebrities always came on and said everything they could to get you to watch their new project. That has stopped and been replaced with gaslighting. Wtf
Everyone left to touch grass, enjoy your new audience.
The Piano Mam looks like she escaped from Hocus Pocus (Bette Midler as Winifred Sanderson) or Alice in Wonderland Queen of Hearts.
0:37
“ it’s a fantastic jumping off point….”
Quote of the year right there
According to Radio Times, the poor ratings don't include the iPlayer numbers for the overnights... Why? They have ALWAYS included the iPlayer in the overnights since the iPlayer's inception. This is the FIRST TIME they've reported the overnight ratings WITHOUT adding the iPlayer views. I bet they're buying more time to allow additional views over the week before adding them on so they can bump the numbers and make it look more successful than it is. We've seen them shift the goalposts time and time again. It's opaque at this point. And, when I filed a FOI request for the iPlayer numbers for the specials, I was refused.
Ah yes weekend* veiwing figures
*(weekend is deffined as fri through fri)
This is why people prefer classic Doctor Who instead
Reminds me of an interview in which Rian Johnson and Mark Hamill are promoting The Last Jedi. Hamill recalls a discussion on set in which he tells Johnson "you need to think of the fans". I can't remember the exact words but Johnson in responds something along the lines of "no, we're going to make our own fans".
Out of cardboard and glitter I presume since they're not attracting anyone new currently just losing the old ones.
The Doctor no longer needs the sonic screwdriver, he now has “Sonic Jazz Hands”!! Slay
"The good weather affected the viewing figures"
However, straight after the two 'Doctor Who' episodes, five million more people tuned in to watch the Eurovision Song Contest, even though it was still warm and sunny outside...
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Yes I was thinking that. The Eurocrapovision Dong contest got 8 million plus live viewers. It was a nice day though, maybe by the time the Dong contest came on it was getting dark and cooling off. I know where I live in the Uk, the whole street was sitting out in the garden. I got home myself about 7pm after spending the day out in the countryside enjoying it as well.....
@@Simon-xc5oyThe interesting thing is, usually, the programme before Eurovision receives a bump in the viewing figures by people tuning in early.
It seems as though people purposefully waited until Doctor Who was over before switching on/over.
Unless people did tune in early and gave a bump to the Doctor Who viewing figures, which means that the numbers watching it were even lower than thought...!
@@davidjhitchcock Probably the latter. People being forced to see a terrible doctor who because they were in good time.
@@linusgustafsson2629 Could be...!
@@davidjhitchcock Well from what I saw on Saturday most people were outside in gardens, on day trips at the beach / river etc. They were still outside in gardens when the Song contest came on. I can only think that some of these, the really sad ones decided to go inside and watch a load of gay camp trans people singing badly, rather than sit out enjoying the evening. Which also makes you wonder if they like gay / camp and trans so much why did they not watch Doctor Who? Not only that but the first one got 2.6 million and the second 2.4 million. So 200,000 people did not watch the second episode. It did not increase in views as people switched on for EuroCrapovision. The whole thing is more than a bit strange and telling. People were indeed outside and the weather did draw people away, but they came back for the singing, so all you can assume is...Doctor Who was that bad it drove people away and was a total fail. It was getting dark and the night was drawing in when the singing started so maybe some people just decided to call it a day, go in and turn the tv on....and watch any old crap and that was Eurovision. I know my neighbours around me do and did exactly that. I did not get in myself till it was dusk, then I was pottering with the car in the garage, went in for a cup of tea and watched Miami Vice then Clarksons Farm, that was my night. You could not pay me to watch Doctor Who or Eurovision now....
Doctor Who reimagined for a modern audience that does not exist and they are wondering why people are not watching this show.
Well I suppose an imaginary audience for a reimagined show makes a certain degree of sense.
Which ACTUALLY is a brilliant premise for a Mind Robber meets Trial Of A Time Lord type plot line if there was a Screen writer capable of delivering it (a kind of Zen Buddhist version of The Trueman Show but set in the Time Lord APC Matrix).
People want to watch interesting, engaging characters, not characters whose defined solely by their race, gender, and/or sexuality. The moment they wanted to make absolutely sure that the audience knew that Doctor Who was going to be gay and black, that was it. Game over for Doctor Who.
I'm a grown man with adequate armaments, and yet the Weeping Angels scared the absolute crap out of me! I tried watching the one episode with Whitaker and large spiders (no fan of spiders), and that was a serious dud. I want Doctor Who episodes that scares me, make me think about time/space possibilities, and the wonders of different alien species. This new Doctor Who ain't it. It hasn't been it for awhile.
They act like it’s about being “gay” but it’s about VULGARITY. Everything doesn’t have to be sexual. 🙄
It keeps astounding me that they think chasing away their core audience to be a solid business practice, specially when there is no new audience coming to replace it.
They say that it isn't made for us and tell us to leave, but then wonder why no one watched their show.
I am not white, nor american or british, never needed to see myself in the show to enjoy it, now it doesn't even look like a british show anymore instead it looks like any other generic show made for the international market (a show for everyone that really is for no one).
Anglo market, not international market.
I guess that the 0.01% of the population that they're appealing to didn't show up.
They never do. Too busy complaining on twitter. Nor do they buy the Merchandise. Doubt they are even going to bother to make merch this round.
Remember when the title "Doctor Who" suggested that he was a mysterious, otherworldly stranger? Yeah, I miss those days. Now we're all up in his booty. Yuck!
Torchwood was always intended for a mature audience and its timing in the schedule reflected that. But this is going out in its traditional Saturday teatime slot and is still supposedly pitched at a "family audience". Ugh.
Davies is clearly doing with/to the Doctor now what he wanted to do with him back in 2005, but knew he couldn't get away with, which is why we got Captain Jack inserted (oo - er missus) into the series.
the shock when you tell an audience they don't want them any more and the audience listens