Motorcyclists in general cause a LOT of accidents damaging civilians vehicles and bodies. If no-one is near by I'll ignore them and won't pull them over but if a civilian is within a couple miles and the riders are speeding or doing anything reckless I'm all over their selfish Douche-bag selves !!! I've seen too many wives, moms, grandmothers, sons and daughters horrifically injured, killed, or having to pay THOUSANDS to fix their vehicles. Losing jobs because they lose their cars. Then to make it worse outlaws will threaten civilians for trying to get insurance involved etc. No honor. The outlaws have changed in the last 20 years. They used to have deep respect for civilians and families etc and I left them alone as did my fellow officers. Something has changed though. I don't see any respect for civilians or even eachother anymore. Now local angels and others are the same as ghetto gang members. It's...I know this is going to sound weird but honestly it's very sad. I know they've always trafficked drugs and whatever but they aren't forcing people to buy. They're going to get what they want no matter who is selling so we'd leave the clubs alone because if it's going to happen anyway then we'd prefer men with honor and respect for civilians and eachother. They used to understand that assaults etc is disruptive to their business earnings and they used to police eachother for rape and domestic violence child abuse. They used to have charity events..they were illegal but rarely..unjust? Not sure how to articulate that. These days we're seeing behavior that would have been SHUT DOWN IMMEDIATELY internally that's happening all the time. Whomsoever reads this I hope that you and those you care for are happy, healthy, and safe this new year. Semper Fidelis P.S Please forgive me for any misspellings words that are out of context or poor punctuation. I lost my hand in Afghanistan so now I dictate rather than type and the program is not perfect. Traveling the roads is a privilege NOT a right.
For a Outlaw MC so much Rules. I give a shit of their fucking Rules, it's Not their Road, i Ride my Bike where i want, in my Speed and If you are to slow, Just get the fuck Out of my way. Wish you a good ride.
What's up, brother? I was a 1% for almost 10 years. It's just that when you're in a group as A MC club. No one just for respect. Should pass them for one because it could Cause an accident. Two when you're in a It's just disrespectful to pass them going back to number one and cause an accident.
I don't care about the "disrespectful" behavior of 1% of the population who, as the term "one-percenter" suggests, see themselves outside of society and the law. Sorry for hurting the feelings of outlaws. Drive carefully, as outlaws do, otherwise an accident may occur.
I've been riding since I was 17. I'm 49 now. I have no problem with MC's, Groups, Organizations, etc, but it's not my thing. When I go ride, occasionally I'll ride with friends, but I like to ride alone. It's my throttle therapy time. I know how to ride in formation, but I also enjoy gliding across the road and cutting around it like it's butter. I don't do stupid stunts or anything, I just enjoy my space. I give the wave to anything on 2 or 3 wheels. You don't have to be a fellow Harley rider. I'll wave at foreign sports bikes, dirt bikes, mopeds, hell even people on bicycles because they may be a future motorcycle owner. My only problem is with anyone who looks down on someone else because they think they are better than them for one reason or another. You don't know anyone else's life or circumstance. You don't know their pain or the different trials and hells they've survived. If you think you are too good to talk to someone because they aren't in a club or they haven't earned the "status" you have, you really need to check your pride. I believe respect is earned individually between each person you encounter. I offer the same amount of starter respect to everyone, general human decency. Above and beyond that, gonna have to be earned. On the subject of wearing a cut when you aren't in a club, I don't wear one. I wear a jacket when the weather calls for it, otherwise just my shirt. I have a jacket that the sleeves zip out of, but it's just a plain jacket, no patches. I've been given patches, I just don't ever do anything with them. Just shove them in a drawer back home. I also don't go out of my way to try to irritate anyone. So if I went to an event and there was a 1% club there, I wouldn't be intentionally trying to push anyone's buttons. After watching videos like these my main concern would be if I did something unintentionally out of ignorance for club culture and someone got in my face over it. It's never happened to me, but I see videos where thing have happened and wonder how I would react in that situation. I don't really want to find out, but I would hope clubs would at least try to be understanding. I don't know man, I'm just the kind of guy who carries around a tire iron in my saddle bags to help a person change a tire on the side of the road if I see a person who needs help. I prefer to be that random nice biker you didn't expect. In the last year I've changed 5 car tires and pushed 3 broke down cars out of the road just because I was on a joy ride and saw that someone needed help.
To be a real biker isn't about being in a club or how tuff you are or what kind of bike you ride. It's about what in your hart and soul! Ride on keep it up on two's
Whenever I'm asked about being part of an MC or any organized riding group I always quote Groucho Marx..."I won't be part of any organization that would have me as a member"
You have it wrong friend if you want to join a MC hang out where they do get to know them and just maybe you will learn something about the Club and your self and it you are cut out for The lifestyle
I just started riding on the road in the last couple of years but I put 30 years worth of death metal patches on a jacket, not to try and make people think I’m a biker but to use up all these patches and because that’s who I am. Not out to impress anyone, just a metal head that wants to ride.
I have a jacket that has the pink floyd hammers patch..the amount of times people came up to me thinking i was KKK or some shit is annoying worst part is it's the usual suspects karen and daren cause they dont listen they just wanna argue its like dealing with children. Anyway got approached by few guys from a MC lets call the MC "heavens demons" they asked about my patch on my arm cause from their POV when i pulled in to the gas station they thought I was wearing a rivals patch so when the group came over and asked about the patch i just turned a bit showed them it was the pink floyd hammers and we ended up just talking about music,concerts and how much of a twat justina trudeau is. Best convo i had in awhile with strangers where i didn't feel like i was obligated to say something like "beautiful day isn't ?" you know that type of bullshit convo that doesn't need to be had
I walked up to an SAA in front of a bathroom with his arms crossed. Stood next to him and crossed my arms. He told me to leave and I said, "why this is the line for the bathroom right?" And he laughed and shook my hand
The thing clubs need to understand is, you are the only one that cares about your patch. Just because it means something to you doesn’t mean it matters to me.
Oh we know… we know that you don’t know what’s going on. That’s why we enforce that respect when manners and rudeness occurs from people filled with cartoon beliefs learned on television about MC life. Most people are just fine out there though. It’s all about being polite, like with anyone else.
Most clubbers are guys going through a midlife crisis, get a HD, and look for a club to join. Since they can't earn respect, they dress up and get tattoos, and demand respect from people they don't know. Every day is Halloween for them.
I just got a cool eagle patch on the center of my back and a couple "funny" patches. Just funny sayings like "Ride like you stole it" etc. Never got flak from any M.C.'s
When I ride, it’s two fingers down to every person on two wheels. Even someone on a scooter, we’re all on two wheels to have fun and be safe. I’m 42 and I’ve been riding since I was 6 years old. Respect to everyone on a bike, and watch out for each other against dumbass car drivers
I’m not saying this about all people who ride but what about the dumb ass bikers that put them selves in dangerous situations on the road then flip out on the car because they almost wrecked? I ran into this a few years ago. I went to get into the next lane so I checked my mirrors to make sure it was clear then started to get over. As I’m half way over this dude on a crotch rocket comes whipping around a car a few lengths back and has to nearly lock it up to not hit me. He starts cussing me out like he wasn’t the one who put him self in that situation. I have respect for the safety of those on two wheels but I lose all respect for the ones who feel entitled to ride like idiots then flip out when they put them selves in bad situations.
As a retired police officer I’ve come across several outlaws on duty. I treated them as I would wanted to be treated . Respect isn’t a sign of weakness, its a sign of wisdom
I'm a sport bike rider. Most club guys are super chill and will give you a wave or a heads up. It's the cos play for dad's "bikers" who put on there "tough guy" outfit on the weekends and think they are outlaws who are dicks. I think we all universally hate those dudes.
I know your type. You don’t like HD riders, you think sports bikes are cool and Harley’s are trash, you don’t like guys in Harley’s cause you resent them. That’s cool, we don’t respect you, you ride a toy, you speed, stunt, put others at risk. I don’t wave to guys like you cause I don’t respect you, I definitely don’t consider you a biker. Cope harder…
I used to run lights for the house band at a MC/Biker bar in TX, they had 2 rules. No cuts, and no weapons. Wait rule #3, don't fuck with the band. This place was sacred ground where any MC could go to and have a good time. The only time I saw shit go south was a dude we all knew had too much nose candy and started shit. Owner called the cops (yeah, it was understood the law could come in); dude would not leave, and they started scrapping. Dude had an artificial leg and the cops ended up pulling it off and beating him with it just so they could cuff him. One of the funnies things I ever saw being associated with MCs.
SOA & the newer spin off show Mayans are both well worth watching if you enjoy bikes or bike culture, enjoy action & good story telling check em out. People just shouldn't take things on TV literally or draw parallels to real life. 🙌🎆
if homeboy was actually that ignorant then this is a true win for everyone. you cant get mad at that... I would say im working on my lucky charms next.
@icemuppet361 yah he was pretty ignorant and hes lucky..it was just me, him, and the 1%er.. I quickly explained what it meant.. I honestly think the 1 percenter being the Sgt at Arms and a was known for handing out a beating might have done something like a slap up the head if his brothers and other civilians were there.
I can tell you about a situation in Virginia. The club wasn't 1% percenters, Their CMA (Christian Motorcycle Association) but they ride in formation like any club. Some fool on a crotch rocket tried to pass the entire group, coming down a mountain. He dumped it in front of the whole pack. 12 bikes wrecked and 9 people got hurt. All because of one dumbass.
Define street gang? I can name over 1k street thugs on the east coast of Aus that are better people then the high rollers I work with from time to time..
they are very different- how often do you see blood members do toy drives for kids on christmas or fundraiser for veterans, or work security for events? you are a fucking idiot.
Let me get this straight.. I'm on my own riding and two streams of hogs are riding below the limit and they get pissed if I pass them? That's just pathetic.
A few yrs ago my uncle invited me to hang out with him at his club. My uncle told me if anyone ever invited you to a club that you are not part of always bring a gift for the prez. Its a matter of respect, never show up empty handed. I think this would be a topic to touch on. What do to and not do if you are ever invited to attend a family members club house.
First and only club I went to I had just got into a fight at the bar and somebone thought it was a good idea to retreat to an old shop in the woods which happened to be a mc club….i show up with a my friends drunk shirt almost ripped off and blood everywhere….they were actually pretty cool
This was my first thought, when he mentioned the bottle of liquor but.... I'm assuming he meant it was open and the guy was drinking it. Still sealed and offered as a donation, to the bar, seems like it would be a respectful gesture. I've been in environments where you ALWAYS bring a token of gratitude to the "boss".
Love his stuff. He's loves his bike, club and life style, and we love him for that. However he also understands and embraces both sides of an argument. Making points for both sides, no bias. This is a man worth respect. Like motorcycling with a Buddhist twist.
1) Excusing their command of the roadway due to their MC's "safety" is a cop out. They view you passing them as a sign of disrespect...yet its them camped out in the left lane that's causing the disrespect. Keeping people from passing is a completely different thing than protecting your peeps from stunting asshats. 2) Patches don't make the man...if you get butt-hurt over "old Joe" wearing his HOG or SOA paraphernalia, that's on you. If they aren't wearing YOUR clubs patch, then its none of your business. 3) There's no "heart" involved in trying to fit into a click. Them's high school games. 4) One has to admit that there ARE a LOT of clean "club" patches out there.... 5) Who cares about posers? As long as they aren't wearing YOUR club's patches, who cares. 6) Its a fucking TV show. Again, who cares. 7) THIS is the root of it. Clubs hate bikers because non-club members live by their OWN rules, not THEIRS....they don't conform. 8) Most modern cops aren't police anymore; they are simply the enforcement are of a controlling nanny state. Nothing more....so I can relate to this one.
I personally don’t want to be in an MC for multiple reasons but I have a vest that I like to wear and I have patches all over it. Mine are of where I have been, different states and countries. I also have some on the front of the model of bikes I own. I don’t at all do it to “look like I am in an MC”. I do it because I like it and wanted it for memorial purposes. I ride all year and all over so if I am not a “real biker” then so be it. It definitely won’t stop me from doing what I love.
Many years ago, i got stuck behind a MC...i was on a honda 350...i hated going 45 mph, but I think they were just having fun with me! After a while, they all zoomed off!
As a retired military guy who is aware of the 'stolen valor' issue when it comes to people pretending to have been in the military who weren't I see interesting parallels with patch-wearers who don't earn them. I'll be sure not to clutter my riding jacket with any patches.
I retired US Navy 20 years. Served on 4 Submarines. It took me almost 1 year to earn my Dolphins. Submarine Qualification. I hate it when I see some Yahoo wearing a Military Hat of any branch that never served. When questioned They say "I bought it at the gas station or Flea Market." So why are you profiling as thou you served? 😮😯😲
@@lukewaters9435meanwhile, most of us vets don't advertise it at all. I don't like going out in public and showing what I've done, where I've been, etc. It just brings unwanted attention for me personally. I don't even like stopping at the grocery store or gas station real quick if I'm in uniform on my way home from work... I save the military stories for my family and close friends. Outside of that circle, low profile.
@@M45T3R_B8ER I know plenty of veterans (myself included) who are proud of our service. I am a 2 war combat veteran, and will sport my military patches on my vest,like my POW/MIA, rate badge (yes, I was in the Navy), disabled veteran patch (or more correctly, my Dysfunctional Veteran patch), etc. I earned those. I am not about to let anyone tell me I cannot be proud of my service. Also, to your point about most veterans NOT wearing military stuff, have you ever been to the VA? How about the VFW? American Legion? Or just out in public? I see plenty of guys wearing hats, shirts, and for bikers, patches on our vests. Just because you don't, it doesn't mean that I can't. Before you try and say anything about the Navy and combat, I was Combat Camera and intel, my rate was PH2 (Photographer's Mate 2nd Class).
Didn't MCs grow from ww2 military vets that got together to blow off steam? A lot of the edict, ethics and organization were learned in the service. Respect is earned.
I want to say thank you for your videos. I am mostly an ADV rider. Lots of off road on my big BMW. One day (about a week ago) hour E of Albuquerque on I40 a whole bunch of Mongols (patched) rolled up, a dude (I assume a Jr member) crowds me out, at first I'm WTF?, then I see their patches, remember YOUR vids, and think "no sweat" and follow the "navigational cues", they eventually roar past (about 30 or so), and the guy "guiding me" gave me a wave and took off after. So, me, a dirty ADV guy on a euro fart machine (yeah I know what the Boxster sounds like heh)... THANK YOU, your vid gave me info I never woulda had otherwise and let me know the score before the event even happened on the road. All was and is good :)
In a certain city, I was driving back from my brother's wedding. I was in a rented Aveo, tiny car. About 5 sportbike riders started stunting around me with their rides. Everybody's got neon lights shining down, standing on their bikes, doin' wheelies and riding past me, seemed like 160mph. This was also after 2am. I was really nervous and didn't feel safe at ALL. I WAS strapped, but their behavior was extreme, dangerous, and exactly like what you'd see bad guys act like in the movies before they attacked someone. Terrible experience. I have NEVER felt that way around Outlaws. Exactly the opposite. THEY'RE the good guys.
I remarked on Sose's post a while back about passing an MC on the highway, but I feel like my response is worth repeating here. I was once on a divided 4 lane & it started to hail so I blew by my local 1% club because I was running for an over pass to take shelter. Normally I wouldn't have done that, but I had my 10 year old nephew with me so he's priority number one right? Anyway, these cats stop under the same over pass & I tell the kid..... I don't think they'll beat my ass too bad since you're with me. Instead, these cats compliment me on my shitty little metric bobber & praise my nephew for being able to ride the fender for 50 miles! Mc's are WAY cooler than those sport bike dudes doing wheelies down the highway!
Most stunt rides even on the freeways are 20-40 mph rides so no one really gets hurt if they fall, stunters on the left (mostly at the front of the pack) non stunt riders on the right
im not even a rider but when greeted by co workers i always take off my gloves.. nobody ever taught me, i just always thought it was a sign of respect.. big on respect
Love these videos man. Super informative and solid insight into a culture a lot of people aren't aware of/don't understand. I'm a weekend warrior myself. Not trying to pretend to be anything else - I just like riding whenever I get a chance. Thanks for putting these out!
I have been riding over 55 years been in a club i have more miles getting lost than most do on purpose i don't consider myself a biker because i don't want to be lumped in with what motorcycling turned into i consider myself a motorcycle enthusiast FJB
I'm ex military, build bikes, patched to fuck with rally patches, been riding since i was 16, support the outlaws and had the backs of MC members for years, any of them call me a weak link or a wannabe because i don't got a 1% on my cut can get fucked.
This is my first video of yours to see. I came in with the wrong idea of what this was going to be based on the title. Great video. I'm glad to find your channel.
I always appreciate your videos. I watch often. I wear a vest with patches but all my patches are National Parks I've been to and various geek type patches. Then I have my state flag patch and a Triumph patch. No rockers or anything that remotely looks like MC stuff. I've never had any one from an MC give me trouble over it. I have been invited to an MC clubhouse (not 1% but a good size local MC) but I wasn't able to make it. I made my apologies to the member that invited me. I could never prospect though, I'm older and theres no way I'm putting myself thru some bullshit to patch. I don't like to ride in groups either and I stay away from most of the young sport bike crowd. Mostly I just ride to go hit some twisties or take the back highways to a breakfast destination, stuff like that. I don't generally ride around town. Thanks for your content.
I not in a club but it pisses me off when others call a MC a gang I am a loner but I show the respect to any one who rides or in MC my vest has nothing on it I do not pass a group a MC on the road and I never had any problems because I do my research or I learn things from people like Demons Row and others
Where I come from all the mc has a few stunt riders in a night ride and they leave there vets at home bc it goes against there rules in the MC so this is the reason why I don’t like MC bc they are hypocrites and they say fuck the police but I see them talking to the police.
@@bayouboys2852 Pretty bold calling MCs hypocrites. Until you know (if that ever happens) what every one of them are about you need to watch who you say that to. Not all clubs are the same and have different ideologies.
Until we see annoying Bikers not mention Harley Riders too those kind of people make the Biker community look horrible and because of them we too get attacked or worse.
Solo rider, did the commute thing, the cross-country thing, the sport tour thing, the local twisties group ride thing. Not into stunting on the street, not into holding up traffic for an informal run, I'm into riding safe and enjoying the experience. I've got a big Triumph patch, a couple of emblems for groups I've volunteered for and things I believe in, and that's about it. No one's hassled me for the vest, for the riding style, or the fact I'm out on the road breathing truck fumes and collecting bugs like the rest of y'all. If an MC has a beef with any of that, then let's discuss it, you know?
I ride every day in the north. I commute on ice and snow all winter. These guys look at me with their jaws dropped from their cars and trucks all winter, then as soon as the weather gets nice, they look at me like I’m less than them because I’m not riding a $30k bagger and trying to act like a tough guy.
This is the absolute truth. Every year, I do a poker run in May or early June, and those guys are out in force. I laugh out loud as they peacock around and then duck walk their bikes or drag their feet for 20 yards.
1:54 idk if this is true but there was a name for the type riders like that "stunt groupies" or something? the ones that do the dangerous stuff on the highway and in the city.
Im from Florida and when i used to slide that way we always used guys who where eyes open to provide spots in the line but they give you space. But when i got on the car set and the first time the P looked at me said so you promise to protect my club and he handed the keys over it change my life 13 and 20 cars was average not to mention riding tail to separate the tag alongs or the officers of the next club or chapter depending on how deep the ranks are, the coordination. It's all about respect on any set but on 2s good logistics means safety
Thanks for the video. I consider myself a biker, I'm not in any club. Opinions are different, but I was quite amused by the opinion that anyone who doesn't want to be in a club is a weakling. For me, a weakling is anyone who needs to be a part of something, needs to have other members around, who hides behind other members and is only strong when outnumbered. The strong can do it alone, the weak must join the herd. That's my opinion, I'm not forcing it on anyone, but it amused me. Otherwise, I am from Europe, specifically from the Czech Republic. Here, in my opinion, clubs usually work differently, they are not strict. Just a bunch of friends who like motorcycles. There is no criminal activity associated with it and, in my opinion, they treat non-members decently. But I am not a member of any, I only know what I meet on the road. So it's something quite different. However, a strong individual doesn't need a gang, in any situation, that's my opinion. I wish you a smooth ride and wheels on the ground.
@@DemonsRow I thank you for informing. I don't know some rules and it's good to at least know about them. I also don't want to unnecessarily provoke club members.
had a patched 1% guy pass me from a light then move over back in front of me and slow down below the posted speed. I pass him raise my wtf arm, he then turns into a driveway less than a block down the road.
My jacket has a few patches I earned but mostly it is covered in run pins. So many so that there is no room for any more, a lot of run pins are in a jewelry box. Just no place left on the jacket to put them on.
We don't get these biker types in Australian cities generally speaking but in this scenario i definitely side with the organised group. The crazy stunting riders are putting all others at risk.
Yeah this must be an American thing because l have been riding since '75 and l have never seen anything like they're saying go down. I ride in a SMC, we have patches and badges from runs and rallies we have been on/too, my vest is full.
@@christinelangley7272he’s more meaning club patches when he is talking about patches I believe if u have any patches that are band/military,ride events there’s no problem
I agree with what your saying here. It's about respect and acceptance of each others choices. I am a 25 yr motorcycle tech, Japanese bikes. I have met all types and the people you describe as fake bikers really bother me too. If you want to look like a 1% then you should put in the work and be a 1%, but to be fake is just stupid. I worked at a Yamaha dealership for 20 yrs, 3 doors up the road was a Club shop, we became good friends over the years. I always respected their ways and values, they reciprocated the same. Next to that shop was a club for a non 1% group, I showed them the same respect and they did as well. One morning on the way into work, I was riding my sport bike. A couple of members came up on me very fast, just as I was changing lanes, nearly cut them off. I followed them to the club house, got of my bike, took off my lid and apologized to them. Offered anything I could do to make it right. No, you just did, thank you. Later in the day the tech for the 1% shop came down and told me that the boss wanted a word. I went and he commended my honesty and that the other club appreciated it as well. Stand up guy, you did the right thing. That is how respect is earned and given. I hope this helps someone else understand what respect means.
I had 3 idiots on crotch rockets shoot past me going well over 120mph and weaving in and out of traffic on a major interstate. These kind of squid riders have no respect for anyone.
I'm in a HOG riding group , no problems with local MCs, sometime I see MCs guys looking our front patch util the they see our back Harley HOG Rocker patches . Only patch I was asked for was the HOG Life Member for a PAGAN MC member , but no issues after the explanation and we finish drinking beer together
I went to a function with multiple clubs present . An acquaintance was a fresh patch and he tried introducing me to his pres. I was respectful no glasses or gloves etc. my acquaintance was somewhat questionable I felt (they pulled his patch out bad 1mo later). I was up front with the pres that I wasn’t club material because of it. Dude hot disgruntled about it. Why?
i just went through it quit prospecting first day day#1 one of the brother yelled at me just to do it IN front of 100+ 1%ers made the club look bad so i said im out im 51 not going through that mad love for all bikers and clubs but i did my time where my freedom was taken got to give respect to get it love the videos my brother from another
Riding pillion on the back of husbands Dyna doing 90+ mph on a not busy motorway somewhere in eastern Europe in a group and being passed by one guy doing a wheelie well over 100+ mph - the guy was in his 60`s. Contrary to some of the comments here, it was bloody impressive. Husband was impressed and he`s a seasoned Biker. Sometimes you ride the road, sometimes you ride the bike and sometimes you just ride. Good vid.
So legitimate question as a new rider, I have a crotch rocket, but i dont stunt (way too new to even try), but a lot of the MCs out here ride like 10-20mph below the limit on the highway, how do i pass/indicate intent to pass respectfully?
Serious question, I am out riding alone, just a biker. I ride up on 1-2 or more patched riders and i am in that lane at a stop, do i line up with them in formation as i do with most other riders? do i just stay like 2 car lengths back and clearly show that I am not a part of their pack? I can usually read the room, if they stop in the middle of the lane, i stay pretty far back to just give them space and let them ride their ride, if they pull to either side, i usually line up with them in formation.
The way I try to live my life is to not intentionally disrespect anyone, but at the same time, I will not follow asinine rules of a group or lifestyle that I am not a part of. Then again, I don't hang out in bars or clubs anyway, so it shouldn't be an issue.
I ride with clubs but dont have the time to put in to be a full patch member but they keep inviting me to rides and if i have time we ride sometimes overnight stays at some resort somewhere depending how far we go and time. And sometimes hang at the club. Not sire what that makes me. Maybe a hang around I haven’t asked.
Been watching your videos and shorts for a couple months from the TV but I can't share or comment from there. I've seen a few that I'll share, more people need to see your content. Especially in Dub-K
I got a patch quistion. Would i face ire or hostility from MC clubs if i were to put on one of my grandfathers military patches on my cut. Or would that be disrespectful. I ask because im wanting to put one of my late grandfathers patches on as my way of honoring his memory.
Hey Sose I have a question. How do MCs feel about queer or POC members? Most people hear biker and think of big, tough, straight, white guys but my mom is a short, black, lesbian and used to ride and even got me a scooter for my 18th. After I found your channel I asked her if she knew any MCs and she said our local one had disbanded and that they didn't like her cause she was gay. She's 50 though so I was wondering if opinions have changed or if it was just the club around here that acted like that.
As a middle aged sport touring nerd I find all of this pretty amusing. I’ll say this, the host is extremely even headed and rational and the behavior I see with many MCs and bikers acting out is unfortunately more what I think of as the norm. For me, I’m just all about the ride, not culture - but it’s cool for people to do their thing as long as they’re not messing with each other. I do get annoyed that so many people don’t wave now, especially MC/HD types. Back in the 90s everyone waved - because as RIDERS we knew everyone else was out to get us, and there was a solidarity in it. Also, we always stopped to offer help to any rider who was broken down or needed help. I know nothing of being in a club, it seems like a whole different thing - but it’d be cool if everyone didn’t have such an attitude toward each other. But again, this host seems like a cool dude. See you on the roads keep the dirty side down. ✌️
Touring - riding thousands of miles for a club meet, an event, a rally, or a cause. Sport touring - riding thousands of miles for a squiggly bit on a map. (Been there, done that, had a blast.) Ride safe, Mr. Matt.
So if I am riding, and come up on a club formation, should I slowly pass or just stay behind the formation? I would think slowly passing would be the best option as I would not to be mistaken for a member or prospect. The only time this has happened, I came up on a MC and just decided to get off at the next exit and stretch my legs and have a smoke, as I was unsure what the proper protocol would be.
Felt so strong about this subject, it's only the second or third time I've commented on any social media site. Been riding since I was 6. Got a job as a mechanic at a bike shop when I was 12. Saved my money and as soon as I was legal I bought my first Harley. That was 42 years ago. Always rode alone. I have friends in many different MC's. Was sitting around a campfire with some friends from a certain very well known international club one night. The subject came up and I was asked by a high ranking member that had known me for over 20 years if I would want to prospect. I told him, "For a group of people that pride themselves on not living by the rules you sure seem to have a lot of them." He thought about it and said "I see your point." To Demons Row, keep up the good work
In Chicago I always got along cool with the Outlaws because A friend of mine worked at 1 of their tattoo shops. And a friend of mine's father was good friends with the V.P and he knew me. Also a couple of high-school buddies also became members. It's been my experience.It's one member of a club bout trip for you and says you're cool. Then you're cool with everyone in the club.As long as you shall respect and they will respect you back..
First time in upstate New York I watched a group of at least 200-300 angels all so close to each other that they could touch everyone next to them. Crazy
As someone who doesn't ride but is a muscle car freak, mate, I gotta say that was a very fair, well spoken, intelligent piece. I'm with you in not sweating the small stuff. I DO get being offended with the try-hard, store bought, patch thing. But you/we know they ain't real- weren't earned- and are therefore meaningless. Sometimes ya gotta pick ya battles. I just think Life is hard enough- the less conflict and more fun we can all have, the better I think. Well said mate. Peace.🇳🇿
Re: "not a real biker" brotherhood doesn't/shouldn't mean supporting members who commit crimes and use club membership to demand silence. Nor should clubs demand dues that are so high that members feel obligated to get into criminal activity to be able to stay current.
yo the SOA, i got my favorite bike cheap cause some kid thought he could be a bike because he watched SOA; bought it and wrecked it the same hour,ended up in the hospital for 9 months. so
I am a HOG member. We are motorcycle enthusiasts but tend to be between 55 and 80. We focus on motorcycle safety, and we are never looking for trouble. However, we encourage "Ride Warrior" theme patches that are pictures of, say, Bridges, Beaches, Harley Davidson motorcycle dealerships, etc. These patches are then sown onto our vests; however, they look nothing like "Biker MC" patches. In this case, are such patches also what you described as something that pisses off MC members?
I see tons of HOG patches that are MC patches. HOG is a club, so we wear patches. Hell, Harley sells Top and Bottom rockers that say "harley davidson motorcyles" with the Harley logo in the center. Who cares?
Thanks for the info. I ride but respect your laws too, not in a group so I give you guys all the room in the world when I see ya coming, to each there own
I ain’t in a club but have been invited to a party are visited on open house and always try to learn the protocols and hopefully know someone in the club or an associate so I don’t come off as disrespectful cause I’m in their house basically..Plus I was questioned a time or two which I left and didn’t come back
Great video, if people would just listen to your advice. I'm a sport bike rider at 57 I don't do that stupid stuff, grew out of the 30 years ago. I grew up with club members, best jokes I ever herd. Much respect.
The whole passing a club thing carries to everyone on the road not just "bikers". Let's be real, it's not primarily for the club safety. It's an ego thing. Be realistic, don't sugar coat it. They get mad at ANYONE that passes them. Even if a club member is alone, they think they own the road and still do bullshit. Hell there's videos of it. I don't care much for clubs, i respect to a degree but many of their rules and whatever, is just a bunch of nonsense and ego tripping.
As to your first point I just did the Chicano Pride run in Denver. I rode from up north in a group and one guy on a sports bike weaving in and out of the pack and just generally being unsafe. So I get that.
What's up, Sose? I would like your opinion on something I saw the other day, if you can please: can a 99% club wear a DIAMOND with a "MC" inside? I thought a diamond on yoir vest was meant for other things, like a 1%,3%,13, etc
Hey sos the ghost my name is Austin I watch a lot of your videos because I'm a newer rider and iv been learning about biker education I have been around and I show my respect to every mc or non mc clubs because they do go through hell to earn those patches and they should not just be allowed to be worn by anybody on the road if you show the proper respect and just be yourself the biker world is really amazing but if you go looking to be hard or just a showoff someone will show you just how big you really are just be cool ride and have fun guys
Good information! Ret law enforcement motor officer, my motorcycle is my primary transportation, rain or shine. i don't like "bikers" either. Always doing weird lame crap on their bikes. Riding slow, cant hold their line, wearing MC wannabe stuff, walking around scowling at folks, bitching about being confronted by MC's for trying to pass,the list goes on. I'm obviously on the opposite side of the line from MC's. However i always respected and still respect the time they put in riding. The members of the ruling club were always respectful when our professional paths crossed, and I towards them. Members of the support clubs not so much, but that was just part of the job, no biggie. Similar organization structures, just different focuses. There's a serious tough path we go down to get our wings. we earn the right, and continually re-qualify to wear that different uniform and ride that motor. After learning what it takes to be fully patched in I always respected that dedication and commitment part of the culture. Now when I'm at a bike rally, bar, event etc and the ruling club is showing their presence I'm actually good with that as i know fools will not be tolerated. If i see a support club is running the event ill not stop or ill leave, as generally it will not be a professional atmosphere. And don't try and pass a 1% MC. I may not like the fact they are going 80 and i rolled up at 100, but thats just the way it is. I'll pull off and let the squaw pee and get a coffee, let them get further up the road, or just drop back and ride 80. Choose your battles wisely.
Exactly, this. When the club riders do a gas stop they do it together, and they'll queue up at the pumps, wait, gas up, and wait some more until everybody has a full tank. So if you're good on go-juice and can get to the next gas station, or you pulled off already for a P&P stop (piss and petrol) and can roll by the entourage as they're fueling up, you're ahead of them for the rest of the day... and no one got their feelings hurt about getting passed.
I ride and I stay out of club business because I dont understand some of it and nor do I want to. If I have to go the bathroom, Im not waiting take that somewhere else now. The rest ok the bathroom makes no sense
I'd love to be in a MC ...But, I have too much to lose (career, family, freedom) for some BS. My high school GF's dad was a Prez of SunDowners MC. He told me from the jump "Don't get involved in this life." And he told me several stories of work that he had to put in..I respect those that patched, but, I respect his words MORE!
I have a question. As everyone knows the oldest club in America is “Yonkers MC” How well does the 1% Clubs get along with them? Do the Yonkers MC have free rein to wear the patch in NY? Can you do a show on this club?
Hey Sose,, I have a question about patches, specifically the 1% patch,, if you consider yourself an outlaw but don't belong to a club,, can you wear it? or is it something that only clubs can award. not trying to question anything or cause any grief anywhere, this is just to satisfy my own curiosity. I have tried asking Patched members about it but they get pretty close lipped when it comes to certain things. you tell it how it is so thats why I'mcoming to you with this question. keep the rubber down and keep up the good work
I've Always Wanted To Be in an MC. How do you think i should go about that? Idc if its outlaw or I guess A Regular Mc? Idk if thats the correct terminology
Glad you did this video; people should be able to see both perspectives. Really pisses me off when i hear the whole cosplay thing. I have very good friends who do actual cosplay events, go to childrens hospitals, visit terminally ill children & often the local 1% club is there as well fundraising & just supporting. Another quality video, MLH&R from ireland 🇮🇪
It pisses me off when I’m out ridding usually solo and these groups of guys on street illegal dirt bikes quads and who knows else come by me so close I could touch them, pulling wheelies and swerving all around. I have no interest in dying because of their antics. I don’t mine it until I’m affected, even to the point that the cops bother me because I’m going the speed limit and stopping when the cops show up.
I’m not in an MC but I have earned every patch on my vest. Be it a cross country ride or rally for veterans suicide, Rolling Thunder in DC, I’ve put in 10s of 1000s of miles riding for veterans. But I would never even consider putting a full set or even a single rocker on my vest if I’m not in an MF.
What's up Ghost , I may look like I'm in an MC but I'm not , I grew up in South Phoenix in early 90's and my style is gangster style clothes wearing black and Azteca shirts and bandanas, I'd hate to get misunderstood cuz I ride solo and hold my own
8 Reasons Why Bikers HATE Motorcycle Clubs👉th-cam.com/video/AysfTPI905c/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=DemonsRow
And who are you to tell anybody how to ride anything...y'all ride dicks.
Motorcyclists in general cause a LOT of accidents damaging civilians vehicles and bodies. If no-one is near by I'll ignore them and won't pull them over but if a civilian is within a couple miles and the riders are speeding or doing anything reckless I'm all over their selfish Douche-bag selves !!! I've seen too many wives, moms, grandmothers, sons and daughters horrifically injured, killed, or having to pay THOUSANDS to fix their vehicles. Losing jobs because they lose their cars. Then to make it worse outlaws will threaten civilians for trying to get insurance involved etc. No honor. The outlaws have changed in the last 20 years. They used to have deep respect for civilians and families etc and I left them alone as did my fellow officers. Something has changed though. I don't see any respect for civilians or even eachother anymore. Now local angels and others are the same as ghetto gang members. It's...I know this is going to sound weird but honestly it's very sad. I know they've always trafficked drugs and whatever but they aren't forcing people to buy. They're going to get what they want no matter who is selling so we'd leave the clubs alone because if it's going to happen anyway then we'd prefer men with honor and respect for civilians and eachother. They used to understand that assaults etc is disruptive to their business earnings and they used to police eachother for rape and domestic violence child abuse. They used to have charity events..they were illegal but rarely..unjust? Not sure how to articulate that. These days we're seeing behavior that would have been SHUT DOWN IMMEDIATELY internally that's happening all the time. Whomsoever reads this I hope that you and those you care for are happy, healthy, and safe this new year. Semper Fidelis
P.S Please forgive me for any misspellings words that are out of context or poor punctuation. I lost my hand in Afghanistan so now I dictate rather than type and the program is not perfect.
Traveling the roads is a privilege NOT a right.
For a Outlaw MC so much Rules. I give a shit of their fucking Rules, it's Not their Road, i Ride my Bike where i want, in my Speed and If you are to slow, Just get the fuck Out of my way. Wish you a good ride.
What's up, brother? I was a 1% for almost 10 years. It's just that when you're in a group as A MC club. No one just for respect. Should pass them for one because it could Cause an accident. Two when you're in a It's just disrespectful to pass them going back to number one and cause an accident.
I don't care about the "disrespectful" behavior of 1% of the population who, as the term "one-percenter" suggests, see themselves outside of society and the law. Sorry for hurting the feelings of outlaws. Drive carefully, as outlaws do, otherwise an accident may occur.
I've been riding since I was 17. I'm 49 now. I have no problem with MC's, Groups, Organizations, etc, but it's not my thing. When I go ride, occasionally I'll ride with friends, but I like to ride alone. It's my throttle therapy time. I know how to ride in formation, but I also enjoy gliding across the road and cutting around it like it's butter. I don't do stupid stunts or anything, I just enjoy my space. I give the wave to anything on 2 or 3 wheels. You don't have to be a fellow Harley rider. I'll wave at foreign sports bikes, dirt bikes, mopeds, hell even people on bicycles because they may be a future motorcycle owner.
My only problem is with anyone who looks down on someone else because they think they are better than them for one reason or another. You don't know anyone else's life or circumstance. You don't know their pain or the different trials and hells they've survived. If you think you are too good to talk to someone because they aren't in a club or they haven't earned the "status" you have, you really need to check your pride. I believe respect is earned individually between each person you encounter. I offer the same amount of starter respect to everyone, general human decency. Above and beyond that, gonna have to be earned.
On the subject of wearing a cut when you aren't in a club, I don't wear one. I wear a jacket when the weather calls for it, otherwise just my shirt. I have a jacket that the sleeves zip out of, but it's just a plain jacket, no patches. I've been given patches, I just don't ever do anything with them. Just shove them in a drawer back home. I also don't go out of my way to try to irritate anyone. So if I went to an event and there was a 1% club there, I wouldn't be intentionally trying to push anyone's buttons.
After watching videos like these my main concern would be if I did something unintentionally out of ignorance for club culture and someone got in my face over it. It's never happened to me, but I see videos where thing have happened and wonder how I would react in that situation. I don't really want to find out, but I would hope clubs would at least try to be understanding.
I don't know man, I'm just the kind of guy who carries around a tire iron in my saddle bags to help a person change a tire on the side of the road if I see a person who needs help. I prefer to be that random nice biker you didn't expect. In the last year I've changed 5 car tires and pushed 3 broke down cars out of the road just because I was on a joy ride and saw that someone needed help.
I've been riding since I was 16 and I'm 72 now. Same story as yours.
To be a real biker isn't about being in a club or how tuff you are or what kind of bike you ride. It's about what in your hart and soul! Ride on keep it up on two's
Whenever I'm asked about being part of an MC or any organized riding group I always quote Groucho Marx..."I won't be part of any organization that would have me as a member"
Grouch was a genius
You have it wrong friend if you want to join a MC hang out where they do get to know them and just maybe you will learn something about the Club and your self and it you are cut out for The lifestyle
I just started riding on the road in the last couple of years but I put 30 years worth of death metal patches on a jacket, not to try and make people think I’m a biker but to use up all these patches and because that’s who I am. Not out to impress anyone, just a metal head that wants to ride.
alot of people do that thats never a problem
@@DemonsRow cheers man much appreciated!
I'm getting MotorHead vibes. I don't have the jean jacket cutoff, but still have a few shirts tucked away. 😎🤘🤘🤘
@@JamesGalipeau-h7i Nice man! Can’t beat the mighty Motörhead!
I have a jacket that has the pink floyd hammers patch..the amount of times people came up to me thinking i was KKK or some shit is annoying worst part is it's the usual suspects karen and daren cause they dont listen they just wanna argue its like dealing with children. Anyway got approached by few guys from a MC lets call the MC "heavens demons" they asked about my patch on my arm cause from their POV when i pulled in to the gas station they thought I was wearing a rivals patch so when the group came over and asked about the patch i just turned a bit showed them it was the pink floyd hammers and we ended up just talking about music,concerts and how much of a twat justina trudeau is. Best convo i had in awhile with strangers where i didn't feel like i was obligated to say something like "beautiful day isn't ?" you know that type of bullshit convo that doesn't need to be had
I walked up to an SAA in front of a bathroom with his arms crossed. Stood next to him and crossed my arms. He told me to leave and I said, "why this is the line for the bathroom right?" And he laughed and shook my hand
That was good. 😂😂😂
Those mfers are clowns. All motorcycle club guys are pussys
What rights or authority gives him any right to dictate where people should be.
@@haildagonI think it’s his club house.
The old brasco conversations
The thing clubs need to understand is, you are the only one that cares about your patch. Just because it means something to you doesn’t mean it matters to me.
You gotta deal with the consequences of not respecting others beliefs.
@@nextbizzy ok
Oh we know… we know that you don’t know what’s going on. That’s why we enforce that respect when manners and rudeness occurs from people filled with cartoon beliefs learned on television about MC life. Most people are just fine out there though. It’s all about being polite, like with anyone else.
@@semperoccultus1969 umm, I’m actually in a club.
Most clubbers are guys going through a midlife crisis, get a HD, and look for a club to join. Since they can't earn respect, they dress up and get tattoos, and demand respect from people they don't know. Every day is Halloween for them.
I just got a cool eagle patch on the center of my back and a couple "funny" patches. Just funny sayings like "Ride like you stole it" etc. Never got flak from any M.C.'s
When I ride, it’s two fingers down to every person on two wheels. Even someone on a scooter, we’re all on two wheels to have fun and be safe. I’m 42 and I’ve been riding since I was 6 years old. Respect to everyone on a bike, and watch out for each other against dumbass car drivers
Much respect
Same here brother!
Two fingers down for two wheels, three down for trikes
I’m not saying this about all people who ride but what about the dumb ass bikers that put them selves in dangerous situations on the road then flip out on the car because they almost wrecked? I ran into this a few years ago. I went to get into the next lane so I checked my mirrors to make sure it was clear then started to get over. As I’m half way over this dude on a crotch rocket comes whipping around a car a few lengths back and has to nearly lock it up to not hit me. He starts cussing me out like he wasn’t the one who put him self in that situation.
I have respect for the safety of those on two wheels but I lose all respect for the ones who feel entitled to ride like idiots then flip out when they put them selves in bad situations.
"Respect" from a British scooter-club Brother.
As a retired police officer I’ve come across several outlaws on duty. I treated them as I would wanted to be treated . Respect isn’t a sign of weakness, its a sign of wisdom
Sadly the majority of police officers do not hold such attitude.
I'm a sport bike rider. Most club guys are super chill and will give you a wave or a heads up. It's the cos play for dad's "bikers" who put on there "tough guy" outfit on the weekends and think they are outlaws who are dicks. I think we all universally hate those dudes.
Haha, YESSS!
I don't hate anybody.......
Harley riders 😂 South Park had an episode about this
I know your type. You don’t like HD riders, you think sports bikes are cool and Harley’s are trash, you don’t like guys in Harley’s cause you resent them. That’s cool, we don’t respect you, you ride a toy, you speed, stunt, put others at risk. I don’t wave to guys like you cause I don’t respect you, I definitely don’t consider you a biker. Cope harder…
Tough until they see fresh cut grass on the road...
I used to run lights for the house band at a MC/Biker bar in TX, they had 2 rules. No cuts, and no weapons. Wait rule #3, don't fuck with the band. This place was sacred ground where any MC could go to and have a good time. The only time I saw shit go south was a dude we all knew had too much nose candy and started shit. Owner called the cops (yeah, it was understood the law could come in); dude would not leave, and they started scrapping. Dude had an artificial leg and the cops ended up pulling it off and beating him with it just so they could cuff him. One of the funnies things I ever saw being associated with MCs.
I have never watched Sons of Anarchy or any show about Clubs. I’m not a biker culture expert so I keep my mouth shut and my eyes open.
SOA & the newer spin off show Mayans are both well worth watching if you enjoy bikes or bike culture, enjoy action & good story telling check em out.
People just shouldn't take things on TV literally or draw parallels to real life.
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Watch the movie it’s really a good show it’s about family 10/10 for that movie 💯💯
Soap operas, show
and clubs.
@@pyromaestro not only MC culture but gang banging too
I brought my one friend to the clubhouse. He actually asked a clubber if his 1% tattoo was the kind of milk he liked.😂
lol
“Yo, ask Skim how he got his nickname.”
if homeboy was actually that ignorant then this is a true win for everyone. you cant get mad at that... I would say im working on my lucky charms next.
@icemuppet361 yah he was pretty ignorant and hes lucky..it was just me, him, and the 1%er.. I quickly explained what it meant.. I honestly think the 1 percenter being the Sgt at Arms and a was known for handing out a beating might have done something like a slap up the head if his brothers and other civilians were there.
😂@@Anomalous_Phenomenon
I can tell you about a situation in Virginia. The club wasn't 1% percenters, Their CMA (Christian Motorcycle Association) but they ride in formation like any club. Some fool on a crotch rocket tried to pass the entire group, coming down a mountain. He dumped it in front of the whole pack. 12 bikes wrecked and 9 people got hurt. All because of one dumbass.
nightmare smh
That’s fcked, only takes one dckhead.
Smh...That's trash and just Selfish.
Some people don't need to be on a motorcycle...period
I’m a solo rider and I give them I give clubs their own space. Respect must go both ways.
i agree
Yes!
So everything Im hearing is MC's are no different than street gangs. Treat them the same as a thug street gang. Copy that. o7
Define street gang? I can name over 1k street thugs on the east coast of Aus that are better people then the high rollers I work with from time to time..
Congrats on winning the most ignorant comment of the year.
@Formulabird88 looks like we found another one boys! 2wheel Thuggalishous clown posse right?
they are very different- how often do you see blood members do toy drives for kids on christmas or fundraiser for veterans, or work security for events? you are a fucking idiot.
Let me get this straight.. I'm on my own riding and two streams of hogs are riding below the limit and they get pissed if I pass them? That's just pathetic.
A few yrs ago my uncle invited me to hang out with him at his club. My uncle told me if anyone ever invited you to a club that you are not part of always bring a gift for the prez. Its a matter of respect, never show up empty handed. I think this would be a topic to touch on. What do to and not do if you are ever invited to attend a family members club house.
Surely your family member would tell you.
First and only club I went to I had just got into a fight at the bar and somebone thought it was a good idea to retreat to an old shop in the woods which happened to be a mc club….i show up with a my friends drunk shirt almost ripped off and blood everywhere….they were actually pretty cool
This was my first thought, when he mentioned the bottle of liquor but.... I'm assuming he meant it was open and the guy was drinking it. Still sealed and offered as a donation, to the bar, seems like it would be a respectful gesture. I've been in environments where you ALWAYS bring a token of gratitude to the "boss".
My mother told me to always bring a gift to the house owner we visit.
Love his stuff. He's loves his bike, club and life style, and we love him for that. However he also understands and embraces both sides of an argument. Making points for both sides, no bias. This is a man worth respect. Like motorcycling with a Buddhist twist.
1) Excusing their command of the roadway due to their MC's "safety" is a cop out. They view you passing them as a sign of disrespect...yet its them camped out in the left lane that's causing the disrespect. Keeping people from passing is a completely different thing than protecting your peeps from stunting asshats.
2) Patches don't make the man...if you get butt-hurt over "old Joe" wearing his HOG or SOA paraphernalia, that's on you. If they aren't wearing YOUR clubs patch, then its none of your business.
3) There's no "heart" involved in trying to fit into a click. Them's high school games.
4) One has to admit that there ARE a LOT of clean "club" patches out there....
5) Who cares about posers? As long as they aren't wearing YOUR club's patches, who cares.
6) Its a fucking TV show. Again, who cares.
7) THIS is the root of it. Clubs hate bikers because non-club members live by their OWN rules, not THEIRS....they don't conform.
8) Most modern cops aren't police anymore; they are simply the enforcement are of a controlling nanny state. Nothing more....so I can relate to this one.
The passing thing is what tears me up. Hasn't come up in my life, but i see videos.
I never see the mc blocking cagers from passing though. 🤔
I personally don’t want to be in an MC for multiple reasons but I have a vest that I like to wear and I have patches all over it. Mine are of where I have been, different states and countries. I also have some on the front of the model of bikes I own. I don’t at all do it to “look like I am in an MC”. I do it because I like it and wanted it for memorial purposes. I ride all year and all over so if I am not a “real biker” then so be it. It definitely won’t stop me from doing what I love.
Many years ago, i got stuck behind a MC...i was on a honda 350...i hated going 45 mph, but I think they were just having fun with me! After a while, they all zoomed off!
As a retired military guy who is aware of the 'stolen valor' issue when it comes to people pretending to have been in the military who weren't I see interesting parallels with patch-wearers who don't earn them. I'll be sure not to clutter my riding jacket with any patches.
I retired US Navy 20 years. Served on 4 Submarines. It took me almost 1 year to earn my Dolphins. Submarine Qualification. I hate it when I see some Yahoo wearing a Military Hat of any branch that never served. When questioned They say "I bought it at the gas station or Flea Market." So why are you profiling as thou you served? 😮😯😲
Cause they want to steal the valor that the actual veterans earned
@@lukewaters9435meanwhile, most of us vets don't advertise it at all. I don't like going out in public and showing what I've done, where I've been, etc. It just brings unwanted attention for me personally. I don't even like stopping at the grocery store or gas station real quick if I'm in uniform on my way home from work... I save the military stories for my family and close friends. Outside of that circle, low profile.
Did you piss of the A-gang chief on your boat or something? Why did it take almost a year to get qualified?
@@luckkibehemoth6626if you have to ask that question you are to stupid to understand!
@@M45T3R_B8ER I know plenty of veterans (myself included) who are proud of our service. I am a 2 war combat veteran, and will sport my military patches on my vest,like my POW/MIA, rate badge (yes, I was in the Navy), disabled veteran patch (or more correctly, my Dysfunctional Veteran patch), etc. I earned those. I am not about to let anyone tell me I cannot be proud of my service. Also, to your point about most veterans NOT wearing military stuff, have you ever been to the VA? How about the VFW? American Legion? Or just out in public? I see plenty of guys wearing hats, shirts, and for bikers, patches on our vests. Just because you don't, it doesn't mean that I can't.
Before you try and say anything about the Navy and combat, I was Combat Camera and intel, my rate was PH2 (Photographer's Mate 2nd Class).
I’ve run into club members here and there. I give them there space and I respect there space and never had an issue. Love your channel
Appreciate you
Didn't MCs grow from ww2 military vets that got together to blow off steam? A lot of the edict, ethics and organization were learned in the service. Respect is earned.
I want to say thank you for your videos. I am mostly an ADV rider. Lots of off road on my big BMW. One day (about a week ago) hour E of Albuquerque on I40 a whole bunch of Mongols (patched) rolled up, a dude (I assume a Jr member) crowds me out, at first I'm WTF?, then I see their patches, remember YOUR vids, and think "no sweat" and follow the "navigational cues", they eventually roar past (about 30 or so), and the guy "guiding me" gave me a wave and took off after.
So, me, a dirty ADV guy on a euro fart machine (yeah I know what the Boxster sounds like heh)... THANK YOU, your vid gave me info I never woulda had otherwise and let me know the score before the event even happened on the road.
All was and is good :)
614K Subscribers- 1 Million next. Way to go Sose!
i appreciate you coot
In a certain city, I was driving back from my brother's wedding. I was in a rented Aveo, tiny car. About 5 sportbike riders started stunting around me with their rides. Everybody's got neon lights shining down, standing on their bikes, doin' wheelies and riding past me, seemed like 160mph. This was also after 2am. I was really nervous and didn't feel safe at ALL. I WAS strapped, but their behavior was extreme, dangerous, and exactly like what you'd see bad guys act like in the movies before they attacked someone. Terrible experience.
I have NEVER felt that way around Outlaws. Exactly the opposite. THEY'RE the good guys.
Yea thats crazy
because they're doing actual illegal shit and don't draw attention to themselves doing dumb nonsense like that in public
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My cat braver than you
I remarked on Sose's post a while back about passing an MC on the highway, but I feel like my response is worth repeating here. I was once on a divided 4 lane & it started to hail so I blew by my local 1% club because I was running for an over pass to take shelter. Normally I wouldn't have done that, but I had my 10 year old nephew with me so he's priority number one right? Anyway, these cats stop under the same over pass & I tell the kid..... I don't think they'll beat my ass too bad since you're with me. Instead, these cats compliment me on my shitty little metric bobber & praise my nephew for being able to ride the fender for 50 miles! Mc's are WAY cooler than those sport bike dudes doing wheelies down the highway!
Most stunt rides even on the freeways are 20-40 mph rides so no one really gets hurt if they fall, stunters on the left (mostly at the front of the pack) non stunt riders on the right
im not even a rider but when greeted by co workers i always take off my gloves.. nobody ever taught me, i just always thought it was a sign of respect.. big on respect
In my country it's a basic good manners to take off your glove before a handshake.
Love these videos man. Super informative and solid insight into a culture a lot of people aren't aware of/don't understand. I'm a weekend warrior myself. Not trying to pretend to be anything else - I just like riding whenever I get a chance. Thanks for putting these out!
I have been riding over 55 years been in a club i have more miles getting lost than most do on purpose i don't consider myself a biker because i don't want to be lumped in with what motorcycling turned into i consider myself a motorcycle enthusiast FJB
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I'm ex military, build bikes, patched to fuck with rally patches, been riding since i was 16, support the outlaws and had the backs of MC members for years, any of them call me a weak link or a wannabe because i don't got a 1% on my cut can get fucked.
This is my first video of yours to see. I came in with the wrong idea of what this was going to be based on the title. Great video. I'm glad to find your channel.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I always appreciate your videos. I watch often.
I wear a vest with patches but all my patches are National Parks I've been to and various geek type patches. Then I have my state flag patch and a Triumph patch. No rockers or anything that remotely looks like MC stuff. I've never had any one from an MC give me trouble over it.
I have been invited to an MC clubhouse (not 1% but a good size local MC) but I wasn't able to make it. I made my apologies to the member that invited me. I could never prospect though, I'm older and theres no way I'm putting myself thru some bullshit to patch. I don't like to ride in groups either and I stay away from most of the young sport bike crowd. Mostly I just ride to go hit some twisties or take the back highways to a breakfast destination, stuff like that. I don't generally ride around town.
Thanks for your content.
I not in a club but it pisses me off when others call a MC a gang I am a loner but I show the respect to any one who rides or in MC my vest has nothing on it I do not pass a group a MC on the road and I never had any problems because I do my research or I learn things from people like Demons Row and others
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We appreciate you @@DemonsRow
You sound like a 😺
Where I come from all the mc has a few stunt riders in a night ride and they leave there vets at home bc it goes against there rules in the MC so this is the reason why I don’t like MC bc they are hypocrites and they say fuck the police but I see them talking to the police.
@@bayouboys2852 Pretty bold calling MCs hypocrites. Until you know (if that ever happens) what every one of them are about you need to watch who you say that to. Not all clubs are the same and have different ideologies.
We all ride. All should show respect to each other
truth
Until we see annoying Bikers not mention Harley Riders too those kind of people make the Biker community look horrible and because of them we too get attacked or worse.
Solo rider, did the commute thing, the cross-country thing, the sport tour thing, the local twisties group ride thing. Not into stunting on the street, not into holding up traffic for an informal run, I'm into riding safe and enjoying the experience. I've got a big Triumph patch, a couple of emblems for groups I've volunteered for and things I believe in, and that's about it. No one's hassled me for the vest, for the riding style, or the fact I'm out on the road breathing truck fumes and collecting bugs like the rest of y'all. If an MC has a beef with any of that, then let's discuss it, you know?
I ride every day in the north. I commute on ice and snow all winter. These guys look at me with their jaws dropped from their cars and trucks all winter, then as soon as the weather gets nice, they look at me like I’m less than them because I’m not riding a $30k bagger and trying to act like a tough guy.
This is the absolute truth. Every year, I do a poker run in May or early June, and those guys are out in force. I laugh out loud as they peacock around and then duck walk their bikes or drag their feet for 20 yards.
1:54 idk if this is true but there was a name for the type riders like that "stunt groupies" or something? the ones that do the dangerous stuff on the highway and in the city.
Im from Florida and when i used to slide that way we always used guys who where eyes open to provide spots in the line but they give you space. But when i got on the car set and the first time the P looked at me said so you promise to protect my club and he handed the keys over it change my life 13 and 20 cars was average not to mention riding tail to separate the tag alongs or the officers of the next club or chapter depending on how deep the ranks are, the coordination.
It's all about respect on any set but on 2s good logistics means safety
Thanks for the video. I consider myself a biker, I'm not in any club. Opinions are different, but I was quite amused by the opinion that anyone who doesn't want to be in a club is a weakling. For me, a weakling is anyone who needs to be a part of something, needs to have other members around, who hides behind other members and is only strong when outnumbered. The strong can do it alone, the weak must join the herd. That's my opinion, I'm not forcing it on anyone, but it amused me. Otherwise, I am from Europe, specifically from the Czech Republic. Here, in my opinion, clubs usually work differently, they are not strict. Just a bunch of friends who like motorcycles. There is no criminal activity associated with it and, in my opinion, they treat non-members decently. But I am not a member of any, I only know what I meet on the road. So it's something quite different. However, a strong individual doesn't need a gang, in any situation, that's my opinion. I wish you a smooth ride and wheels on the ground.
Great points
@@DemonsRow I thank you for informing. I don't know some rules and it's good to at least know about them. I also don't want to unnecessarily provoke club members.
had a patched 1% guy pass me from a light then move over back in front of me and slow down below the posted speed. I pass him raise my wtf arm, he then turns into a driveway less than a block down the road.
As a police officer that rides, I aim to understand the protocol and give that respect. Love your videos and keep doing what you do Sose
My jacket has a few patches I earned but mostly it is covered in run pins.
So many so that there is no room for any more, a lot of run pins are in a jewelry box.
Just no place left on the jacket to put them on.
We don't get these biker types in Australian cities generally speaking but in this scenario i definitely side with the organised group.
The crazy stunting riders are putting all others at risk.
Absolutely! 👊👊✊✊👏👏👌👌
Agreed. I live in a place I can take my craziness out bush, so I can’t really comment on this kind of rivalry.
Yeah this must be an American thing because l have been riding since '75 and l have never seen anything like they're saying go down.
I ride in a SMC, we have patches and badges from runs and rallies we have been on/too, my vest is full.
@@christinelangley7272he’s more meaning club patches when he is talking about patches I believe if u have any patches that are band/military,ride events there’s no problem
Most if not all of the motorcycle events here on the island are club run events or have a big club presence. It's usually pretty chill.
i was riding in a pack of 70-80 bikes and a car swerved- i went down at abt 80mph- and the dominoes fell- it happens fast and there is no stopping it.
I agree with what your saying here. It's about respect and acceptance of each others choices. I am a 25 yr motorcycle tech, Japanese bikes.
I have met all types and the people you describe as fake bikers really bother me too. If you want to look like a 1% then you should put in the work and be a 1%, but to be fake is just stupid. I worked at a Yamaha dealership for 20 yrs, 3 doors up the road was a Club shop, we became good friends over the years.
I always respected their ways and values, they reciprocated the same. Next to that shop was a club for a non 1% group, I showed them the same respect and they did as well. One morning on the way into work, I was riding my sport bike. A couple of members came up on me very fast, just as I was changing lanes, nearly cut them off. I followed them to the club house, got of my bike, took off my lid and apologized to them. Offered anything I could do to make it right.
No, you just did, thank you. Later in the day the tech for the 1% shop came down and told me that the boss wanted a word.
I went and he commended my honesty and that the other club appreciated it as well. Stand up guy, you did the right thing.
That is how respect is earned and given. I hope this helps someone else understand what respect means.
I had 3 idiots on crotch rockets shoot past me going well over 120mph and weaving in and out of traffic on a major interstate. These kind of squid riders have no respect for anyone.
Are you butthurt that you don’t got the balls to ride like them?
I'm in a HOG riding group , no problems with local MCs, sometime I see MCs guys looking our front patch util the they see our back Harley HOG Rocker patches . Only patch I was asked for was the HOG Life Member for a PAGAN MC member , but no issues after the explanation and we finish drinking beer together
I went to a function with multiple clubs present . An acquaintance was a fresh patch and he tried introducing me to his pres. I was respectful no glasses or gloves etc. my acquaintance was somewhat questionable I felt (they pulled his patch out bad 1mo later). I was up front with the pres that I wasn’t club material because of it. Dude hot disgruntled about it.
Why?
i just went through it quit prospecting first day day#1 one of the brother yelled at me just to do it IN front of 100+ 1%ers made the club look bad so i said im out im 51 not going through that mad love for all bikers and clubs but i did my time where my freedom was taken got to give respect to get it love the videos my brother from another
I dont blaim you
Riding pillion on the back of husbands Dyna doing 90+ mph on a not busy motorway somewhere in eastern Europe in a group and being passed by one guy doing a wheelie well over 100+ mph - the guy was in his 60`s. Contrary to some of the comments here, it was bloody impressive. Husband was impressed and he`s a seasoned Biker. Sometimes you ride the road, sometimes you ride the bike and sometimes you just ride. Good vid.
Appreciate you
So legitimate question as a new rider, I have a crotch rocket, but i dont stunt (way too new to even try), but a lot of the MCs out here ride like 10-20mph below the limit on the highway, how do i pass/indicate intent to pass respectfully?
You just ride on past they don’t own the road
Sons of Anarchy is not the topic to talk about... hahaha...That was hilarious
Serious question, I am out riding alone, just a biker. I ride up on 1-2 or more patched riders and i am in that lane at a stop, do i line up with them in formation as i do with most other riders? do i just stay like 2 car lengths back and clearly show that I am not a part of their pack?
I can usually read the room, if they stop in the middle of the lane, i stay pretty far back to just give them space and let them ride their ride, if they pull to either side, i usually line up with them in formation.
Keep a little distance
The arguing with bots is so true I wish people would look at that. AI is a pain in the ass for public conversations.
The way I try to live my life is to not intentionally disrespect anyone, but at the same time, I will not follow asinine rules of a group or lifestyle that I am not a part of. Then again, I don't hang out in bars or clubs anyway, so it shouldn't be an issue.
I ride with clubs but dont have the time to put in to be a full patch member but they keep inviting me to rides and if i have time we ride sometimes overnight stays at some resort somewhere depending how far we go and time. And sometimes hang at the club. Not sire what that makes me. Maybe a hang around I haven’t asked.
Been watching your videos and shorts for a couple months from the TV but I can't share or comment from there. I've seen a few that I'll share, more people need to see your content. Especially in Dub-K
I got a patch quistion. Would i face ire or hostility from MC clubs if i were to put on one of my grandfathers military patches on my cut. Or would that be disrespectful. I ask because im wanting to put one of my late grandfathers patches on as my way of honoring his memory.
Depends what it is
Hey Sose I have a question. How do MCs feel about queer or POC members? Most people hear biker and think of big, tough, straight, white guys but my mom is a short, black, lesbian and used to ride and even got me a scooter for my 18th. After I found your channel I asked her if she knew any MCs and she said our local one had disbanded and that they didn't like her cause she was gay. She's 50 though so I was wondering if opinions have changed or if it was just the club around here that acted like that.
Its still the same with mcs but theres alot of clubs that are lgbt
As a middle aged sport touring nerd I find all of this pretty amusing. I’ll say this, the host is extremely even headed and rational and the behavior I see with many MCs and bikers acting out is unfortunately more what I think of as the norm. For me, I’m just all about the ride, not culture - but it’s cool for people to do their thing as long as they’re not messing with each other. I do get annoyed that so many people don’t wave now, especially MC/HD types. Back in the 90s everyone waved - because as RIDERS we knew everyone else was out to get us, and there was a solidarity in it. Also, we always stopped to offer help to any rider who was broken down or needed help. I know nothing of being in a club, it seems like a whole different thing - but it’d be cool if everyone didn’t have such an attitude toward each other. But again, this host seems like a cool dude. See you on the roads keep the dirty side down. ✌️
Touring - riding thousands of miles for a club meet, an event, a rally, or a cause. Sport touring - riding thousands of miles for a squiggly bit on a map. (Been there, done that, had a blast.) Ride safe, Mr. Matt.
So if I am riding, and come up on a club formation, should I slowly pass or just stay behind the formation? I would think slowly passing would be the best option as I would not to be mistaken for a member or prospect. The only time this has happened, I came up on a MC and just decided to get off at the next exit and stretch my legs and have a smoke, as I was unsure what the proper protocol would be.
There's usually a dude in the back who will give you the go ahead.
Felt so strong about this subject, it's only the second or third time I've commented on any social media site.
Been riding since I was 6. Got a job as a mechanic at a bike shop when I was 12. Saved my money and as soon as I was legal I bought my first Harley. That was 42 years ago. Always rode alone. I have friends in many different MC's. Was sitting around a campfire with some friends from a certain very well known international club one night. The subject came up and I was asked by a high ranking member that had known me for over 20 years if I would want to prospect. I told him, "For a group of people that pride themselves on not living by the rules you sure seem to have a lot of them." He thought about it and said "I see your point."
To Demons Row, keep up the good work
In Chicago I always got along cool with the Outlaws because A friend of mine worked at 1 of their tattoo shops.
And a friend of mine's father was good friends with the V.P and he knew me. Also a couple of high-school buddies also became members. It's been my experience.It's one member of a club bout trip for you and says you're cool.
Then you're cool with everyone in the club.As long as you shall respect and they will respect you back..
First time in upstate New York I watched a group of at least 200-300 angels all so close to each other that they could touch everyone next to them.
Crazy
As someone who doesn't ride but is a muscle car freak, mate, I gotta say that was a very fair, well spoken, intelligent piece. I'm with you in not sweating the small stuff. I DO get being offended with the try-hard, store bought, patch thing. But you/we know they ain't real- weren't earned- and are therefore meaningless. Sometimes ya gotta pick ya battles.
I just think Life is hard enough- the less conflict and more fun we can all have, the better I think. Well said mate. Peace.🇳🇿
Re: "not a real biker" brotherhood doesn't/shouldn't mean supporting members who commit crimes and use club membership to demand silence. Nor should clubs demand dues that are so high that members feel obligated to get into criminal activity to be able to stay current.
yo the SOA, i got my favorite bike cheap cause some kid thought he could be a bike because he watched SOA; bought it and wrecked it the same hour,ended up in the hospital for 9 months. so
So it worked itself out lol
@@DemonsRow haha
I am a HOG member. We are motorcycle enthusiasts but tend to be between 55 and 80. We focus on motorcycle safety, and we are never looking for trouble. However, we encourage "Ride Warrior" theme patches that are pictures of, say, Bridges, Beaches, Harley Davidson motorcycle dealerships, etc. These patches are then sown onto our vests; however, they look nothing like "Biker MC" patches. In this case, are such patches also what you described as something that pisses off MC members?
I see tons of HOG patches that are MC patches. HOG is a club, so we wear patches. Hell, Harley sells Top and Bottom rockers that say "harley davidson motorcyles" with the Harley logo in the center. Who cares?
Thanks for the info. I ride but respect your laws too, not in a group so I give you guys all the room in the world when I see ya coming, to each there own
I ain’t in a club but have been invited to a party are visited on open house and always try to learn the protocols and hopefully know someone in the club or an associate so I don’t come off as disrespectful cause I’m in their house basically..Plus I was questioned a time or two which I left and didn’t come back
Great video, if people would just listen to your advice.
I'm a sport bike rider at 57 I don't do that stupid stuff, grew out of the 30 years ago.
I grew up with club members, best jokes I ever herd.
Much respect.
Much respect
The whole passing a club thing carries to everyone on the road not just "bikers". Let's be real, it's not primarily for the club safety. It's an ego thing. Be realistic, don't sugar coat it. They get mad at ANYONE that passes them. Even if a club member is alone, they think they own the road and still do bullshit. Hell there's videos of it. I don't care much for clubs, i respect to a degree but many of their rules and whatever, is just a bunch of nonsense and ego tripping.
Thanks so much for sharing.👍
Enjoy your day 💖
appreciate you precious
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As to your first point I just did the Chicano Pride run in Denver. I rode from up north in a group and one guy on a sports bike weaving in and out of the pack and just generally being unsafe. So I get that.
What's up, Sose? I would like your opinion on something I saw the other day, if you can please: can a 99% club wear a DIAMOND with a "MC" inside? I thought a diamond on yoir vest was meant for other things, like a 1%,3%,13, etc
Hey sos the ghost my name is Austin I watch a lot of your videos because I'm a newer rider and iv been learning about biker education I have been around and I show my respect to every mc or non mc clubs because they do go through hell to earn those patches and they should not just be allowed to be worn by anybody on the road if you show the proper respect and just be yourself the biker world is really amazing but if you go looking to be hard or just a showoff someone will show you just how big you really are just be cool ride and have fun guys
Good information!
Ret law enforcement motor officer, my motorcycle is my primary transportation, rain or shine. i don't like "bikers" either. Always doing weird lame crap on their bikes. Riding slow, cant hold their line, wearing MC wannabe stuff, walking around scowling at folks, bitching about being confronted by MC's for trying to pass,the list goes on.
I'm obviously on the opposite side of the line from MC's. However i always respected and still respect the time they put in riding. The members of the ruling club were always respectful when our professional paths crossed, and I towards them. Members of the support clubs not so much, but that was just part of the job, no biggie. Similar organization structures, just different focuses.
There's a serious tough path we go down to get our wings. we earn the right, and continually re-qualify to wear that different uniform and ride that motor. After learning what it takes to be fully patched in I always respected that dedication and commitment part of the culture.
Now when I'm at a bike rally, bar, event etc and the ruling club is showing their presence I'm actually good with that as i know fools will not be tolerated. If i see a support club is running the event ill not stop or ill leave, as generally it will not be a professional atmosphere.
And don't try and pass a 1% MC. I may not like the fact they are going 80 and i rolled up at 100, but thats just the way it is. I'll pull off and let the squaw pee and get a coffee, let them get further up the road, or just drop back and ride 80. Choose your battles wisely.
Exactly, this. When the club riders do a gas stop they do it together, and they'll queue up at the pumps, wait, gas up, and wait some more until everybody has a full tank. So if you're good on go-juice and can get to the next gas station, or you pulled off already for a P&P stop (piss and petrol) and can roll by the entourage as they're fueling up, you're ahead of them for the rest of the day... and no one got their feelings hurt about getting passed.
I ride and I stay out of club business because I dont understand some of it and nor do I want to. If I have to go the bathroom, Im not waiting take that somewhere else now. The rest ok the bathroom makes no sense
Honestly, having a meeting in a public bathroom is just begging for drama and a fast way to have the police come around.
I'd love to be in a MC ...But, I have too much to lose (career, family, freedom) for some BS. My high school GF's dad was a Prez of SunDowners MC. He told me from the jump "Don't get involved in this life." And he told me several stories of work that he had to put in..I respect those that patched, but, I respect his words MORE!
Nobody owns the road. Any grown man that needs a gang to roll around with ain’t no apex predator to me.
Good topics that was well covered by the Sose!
Glad you liked it!
Respect is key and knowing the proper way to show it. Much Love #Ghostin
Well said #ghostin
I have a question. As everyone knows the oldest club in America is “Yonkers MC” How well does the 1% Clubs get along with them? Do the Yonkers MC have free rein to wear the patch in NY? Can you do a show on this club?
Hey Sose,, I have a question about patches, specifically the 1% patch,, if you consider yourself an outlaw but don't belong to a club,, can you wear it? or is it something that only clubs can award. not trying to question anything or cause any grief anywhere, this is just to satisfy my own curiosity. I have tried asking Patched members about it but they get pretty close lipped when it comes to certain things. you tell it how it is so thats why I'mcoming to you with this question. keep the rubber down and keep up the good work
Stay away from the patch club gotta give it to you
@@DemonsRow okay no problem, thanks for clearing that up for me
Down south. There are alot of spots, parties, trail rides, and strip clubs that are byob.
Great content again Ghost
Thank you
I've Always Wanted To Be in an MC. How do you think i should go about that? Idc if its outlaw or I guess A Regular Mc? Idk if thats the correct terminology
Look on the channel i got whole videos on it
@@DemonsRow Preciate it bro,, i just subscribed, I’ll see if I can find it. If you can drop the link I’ll appreciate it
@@DemonsRow lol literally still watching you videos, rn watching Scott jr ereckson interview
This is dope channel 🤙🏼
My problem with clubs in my area they go ten under and won't let me pass i just want ride
Glad you did this video; people should be able to see both perspectives. Really pisses me off when i hear the whole cosplay thing. I have very good friends who do actual cosplay events, go to childrens hospitals, visit terminally ill children & often the local 1% club is there as well fundraising & just supporting. Another quality video, MLH&R from ireland 🇮🇪
How can someone join a motorcycle club or MC just curious?
Im getting a bike soon but i don’t know how all the bike rules with other bikers is and what’s the culture
Gotta know people
52 years old....my pops always rode and i grew up with MC's ....he never patched in and was respected cuz he was an OG
rip ART
Rip
It pisses me off when I’m out ridding usually solo and these groups of guys on street illegal dirt bikes quads and who knows else come by me so close I could touch them, pulling wheelies and swerving all around. I have no interest in dying because of their antics. I don’t mine it until I’m affected, even to the point that the cops bother me because I’m going the speed limit and stopping when the cops show up.
This is why i ride solo
A beast of no nation
I hate politics and the fact its now evident in every facet of life , even chewing up tarmac
I’m not in an MC but I have earned every patch on my vest. Be it a cross country ride or rally for veterans suicide, Rolling Thunder in DC, I’ve put in 10s of 1000s of miles riding for veterans. But I would never even consider putting a full set or even a single rocker on my vest if I’m not in an MF.
What's up Ghost , I may look like I'm in an MC but I'm not , I grew up in South Phoenix in early 90's and my style is gangster style clothes wearing black and Azteca shirts and bandanas, I'd hate to get misunderstood cuz I ride solo and hold my own