I truly enjoy these panel discussions. Thanks to all of you! Regarding the "waffling" churches; Revelation 3:15-16 " I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth."
@@ItalicusHammer Followers of Christ were not "breaking" the 10 commandments, or that would have been addressed (Lu.23:56). Today people 'covet' everything that is not theirs...'which is idolatry'. And few take 'every word' to heart (Matt.4:4). Nice comments you have; what spirit are you of?
A person can argue that the Sabbath was a "Mosaic" institution, but i can also argue that unicorns exist. It doesn't mean i'd be right, just like the argument about the Sabbath being a "Mosaic" institution wouldn't be right. Gen. 2:1-3 shows that the Sabbath is as old as the human race itself. It didn't begin with Moses, nor did it come from Moses. Exo. 16 clearly shows God giving Israel the knowledge of its existence, so it was an existing duty long before Moses was ever born.
At 3:30 ardavanis allows his dispensationalism to show. He asserts that the ot sacrifices atoned for sins. He should read the book of Hebrews especially chapter 10. I’ll give him the benefit of doubt that he doesn’t actually believe that but the dispensational hermanuetics only lead you in that direction. Ligonier must issue a statement and correct ardavanis
Yhr concept "elect" always troubles me. On the one hand Jesus loves sinners, died for them and ivites us to come unto hi,. and he that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life." I just know that Iamsorry for my sins, I turn from them, I am trusting inHis atonig death for my salvation and my desire is to be conformed to His image. That s all Ican do.
It is true that predestination is true but it does not mean that he hates the non-elect. God loves all people but still condemns some because he is just.
@@ItalicusHammer I agree that God has a specific special love for his elect but he also has a general love. Matthew 5:43-48, John 3:16, 1 John 4:10 are just a few verses show how God has a general love for all.
Not once do we hear to read, and study, and meditate daily on the Word of GOD! and pray for Him to teach us by His Spirit. Truth has been here for 2000 years and few 'there be that find' it. All the answers to every question is in the Word, that we need to humble our hearts, and give us grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ. In Hebrews, at least, we are instructed to exhort one another 'daily', take up our cross daily, and resist sin 'unto blood', as Jesus 'endured the cross', humbly. There is no Christian pride in receiving 'the love of the truth'. Having all the answers is not enough, if people do nothing except talk. Not enough questions, not enough answers, not enough time...we have so much more to do...hmmm
The Lord’s Day. From kyriake hemera in Revelation 1:10, the meaning of this hapax legomenon must be deduced first from the limited immediate context, then from the broader biblical context, and finally from the preponderance of extra-biblical data. Among CS and LD communities, the most common and defensible understanding is that kyriake hemera refers to the first day of the week, Sunday, which commemorates the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the grave. “It was simply, by the normative custom of the apostolic church, the day on which Christians met to worship, and, for us, the use of its title, the Lord’s Day, in Revelation 1:10 gives that custom the stamp of canonical authority.”It is to be distinguished from the “day of the Lord”-a yet future period when the Lord shall interrupt the plans of mankind to effect His promise to fully bless, redeem, and sanctify His people; to judge and punish those who rejected Him; and to re-fashion the astrophysical world into the fullness of His glorious kingdom. While the Sabbath was identified by the Lord as “His holy day” (Isa 58:13) the Israelites did not refer to it by anything other than shabbat. Hence, John’s singular use of this term is highly unlikely a reference to the Sabbath
It's unfortunate how the truth of the true 7th day Sabbath was revealed and then quickly dismissed by going to the next question. Failure to follow the true Sabbath is where Christians are being deceived, come out of her!
Dr. Godrey on the "Christian Sabbath". Colossians 2:16-17 New American Standard Bible 1995 16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day- 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. That's the word of God, not "tradition".
1 corinthians 3:4, you are being carnal by saying "I am of Calvin"...instead of Apollos or Paul...you should be of Christ Jesus our Lord xnd leave it at that...
Calvin’s commentary on 1 Corinthians 3:4; each one gloried in his particular master, as though Christ were not the one Master of all (Matthew 23:8.) Now, where such ambition still prevails, the gospel has little or no success. You are not, however, to understand that they declared this openly in express words, but the Apostle reproves those depraved dispositions to which they were given up. At the same time it is likely, that, as a predilection arising from ambition is usually accompanied with an empty talkativeness, [153] they openly discovered by their words the absurd bias of their mind, by extolling their teachers to the skies in magnificent terms, accompanying this at the same time with contempt of Paul and those like him.
Israeli sabbath, not christian sabbath. Hogwash! John was an apostle of the circumcision.Why did GOD have to rest? He is spirit! Hebrews was written to the circumcision. Doctrines of men. Thats all I hear! GOD calls people to faith, not man! What makes calvanists so special? Oh, nothing!
I truly enjoy these panel discussions. Thanks to all of you! Regarding the "waffling" churches; Revelation 3:15-16 " I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm-neither hot nor cold-I am about to spit you out of my mouth."
Love these questions and answers.
Fascinating Q&A, love the responses from all the panelists. Thank you
Fascinating! ❤
God Bless Ligonier Ministry. Richly blessed by the sound and accurate doctrine. ❤😅
Always helped by your Q&As. Many thanks to the panel. God bless. I find the Sabbath very important.
Its not. Christ rose on sunday that is what CHRISTians celebrate.
Not complicated.
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Followers of Christ were not "breaking" the 10 commandments, or that would have been addressed (Lu.23:56).
Today people 'covet' everything that is not theirs...'which is idolatry'.
And few take 'every word' to heart (Matt.4:4). Nice comments you have; what spirit are you of?
God saves repentant sinners who put their trust in the redeeming atonement he made for us. "He that believeth on the Son HATH life."
Parents love their children, but they are angry with them when they disobey. Because He is angry with us does not mean that He does not love us.
A person can argue that the Sabbath was a "Mosaic" institution, but i can also argue that unicorns exist. It doesn't mean i'd be right, just like the argument about the Sabbath being a "Mosaic" institution wouldn't be right. Gen. 2:1-3 shows that the Sabbath is as old as the human race itself. It didn't begin with Moses, nor did it come from Moses. Exo. 16 clearly shows God giving Israel the knowledge of its existence, so it was an existing duty long before Moses was ever born.
Very informative, thanks for posting, who’s the gentleman asking the questions?
Some predestined to eternal life.
Some predestined to eternal death. Peach it all not just half of what you believe.
Please include in the description timestamps and the questions answered.
Hello, David. We are working on getting the timestamps available as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience.
Any timestamps?
We're sorry, but the questions have not been timestamped on this video.
@@ligonier Please tell your TH-cam manager to always add timestamps if possible. Thank you and God Bless!
Thank you for your patience. We are working on getting the timestamps available as soon as possible.
please explain matthew 25: 41
At 3:30 ardavanis allows his dispensationalism to show. He asserts that the ot sacrifices atoned for sins. He should read the book of Hebrews especially chapter 10. I’ll give him the benefit of doubt that he doesn’t actually believe that but the dispensational hermanuetics only lead you in that direction. Ligonier must issue a statement and correct ardavanis
Yhr concept "elect" always troubles me. On the one hand Jesus loves sinners, died for them and ivites us to come unto hi,. and he that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life." I just know that Iamsorry for my sins, I turn from them, I am trusting inHis atonig death for my salvation and my desire is to be conformed to His image. That s all Ican do.
The whole world go after Jesus, is said by the Pharisees and it is obviously a hyeprbole. Timestamp 5:56
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There is atonement in the blood of ot sacrifices???
Why wont these men just point out. God loves his elect an hates his non elect.
It is true that predestination is true but it does not mean that he hates the non-elect. God loves all people but still condemns some because he is just.
@@rileyb4995 no he does not Love all. He shows grace to all who live. He loves His elect. The others are sheep with no shepherd.
@@ItalicusHammer I agree that God has a specific special love for his elect but he also has a general love. Matthew 5:43-48, John 3:16, 1 John 4:10 are just a few verses show how God has a general love for all.
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I agree (Ps.5:5, Prov.3:34).
Not once do we hear to read, and study, and meditate daily on the Word of GOD! and pray for Him to teach us by His Spirit. Truth has been here for 2000 years and few 'there be that find' it. All the answers to every question is in the Word, that we need to humble our hearts, and give us grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ. In Hebrews, at least, we are instructed to exhort one another 'daily', take up our cross daily, and resist sin 'unto blood', as Jesus 'endured the cross', humbly. There is no Christian pride in receiving 'the love of the truth'.
Having all the answers is not enough, if people do nothing except talk.
Not enough questions, not enough answers, not enough time...we have so much more to do...hmmm
We didn't hear spend all day on rambling incoherent self promoting youtube comments either moses sunshine boy😅😅😅😅😅
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And...
Where did the 5 doctrines come from if not Jesus? Not Calvin
The Lord’s Day. From kyriake hemera in Revelation 1:10, the meaning of this hapax legomenon must be deduced first from the limited immediate context, then from the broader biblical context, and finally from the preponderance of extra-biblical data. Among CS and LD communities, the most common and defensible understanding is that kyriake hemera refers to the first day of the week, Sunday, which commemorates the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the grave. “It was simply, by the normative custom of the apostolic church, the day on which Christians met to worship, and, for us, the use of its title, the Lord’s Day, in Revelation 1:10 gives that custom the stamp of canonical authority.”It is to be distinguished from the “day of the Lord”-a yet future period when the Lord shall interrupt the plans of mankind to effect His promise to fully bless, redeem, and sanctify His people; to judge and punish those who rejected Him; and to re-fashion the astrophysical world into the fullness of His glorious kingdom. While the Sabbath was identified by the Lord as “His holy day” (Isa 58:13) the Israelites did not refer to it by anything other than shabbat. Hence, John’s singular use of this term is highly unlikely a reference to the Sabbath
It's unfortunate how the truth of the true 7th day Sabbath was revealed and then quickly dismissed by going to the next question. Failure to follow the true Sabbath is where Christians are being deceived, come out of her!
Read 1 Corinthians 16 1-2 and Acts 20:7. They show that the Christian Sabbath is on Sunday
@@rileyb4995The 4th Commandment given by God.
Scripture says they came together on "the first day of the week" because Jesus arose on the first day of the week.
Dr. Godrey on the "Christian Sabbath".
Colossians 2:16-17 New American Standard Bible 1995
16 Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day- 17 things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.
That's the word of God, not "tradition".
1 corinthians 3:4, you are being carnal by saying "I am of Calvin"...instead of Apollos or Paul...you should be of Christ Jesus our Lord xnd leave it at that...
Calvin’s commentary on 1 Corinthians 3:4;
each one gloried in his particular master, as though Christ were not the one Master of all (Matthew 23:8.) Now, where such ambition still prevails, the gospel has little or no success. You are not, however, to understand that they declared this openly in express words, but the Apostle reproves those depraved dispositions to which they were given up. At the same time it is likely, that, as a predilection arising from ambition is usually accompanied with an empty talkativeness, [153] they openly discovered by their words the absurd bias of their mind, by extolling their teachers to the skies in magnificent terms, accompanying this at the same time with contempt of Paul and those like him.
In our panels defense question 9 @ 42 mins they demonstrate that they hold the Bible above Calvin.
Israeli sabbath, not christian sabbath. Hogwash! John was an apostle of the circumcision.Why did GOD have to rest? He is spirit! Hebrews was written to the circumcision. Doctrines of men. Thats all I hear! GOD calls people to faith, not man! What makes calvanists so special? Oh, nothing!
Steve- A careful study of the entire Bible teaches unlimited redemption! Stick with the text!!!!!