ATP PRO Comes Out! Only the 2nd in History...

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  • @bpure2560
    @bpure2560 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    If other top players posted a positive response to his post then maybe other players will find it easier to come out.

  • @WonderWhatHappened
    @WonderWhatHappened 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    To be fair he never came out but told his partner he loved him. There should be no need to "come out" but just be yourself regardless of who you love. He didn't make a big fuss about it and neither should you.

    • @msem6136
      @msem6136 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      fr 😉🤙

    • @MegaGo68
      @MegaGo68 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Easy to say, but when you're the only one a lot harder to put into practice.

  • @MegaGo68
    @MegaGo68 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    This is good news for tennis. Hope other players now and in the future will follow suit. As for the international dimension, that's easy: don't have tournaments in unfriendly countries.

    • @HeidiMaguire
      @HeidiMaguire 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Especially for the WTA with the end of the year championships in Saudi Arabia!!! I usually watch all of this, but I will not be able to watch for 5 years!!!

  • @mikeyouaint
    @mikeyouaint 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Jan Michael Gambill?

  • @EHenterprises
    @EHenterprises 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Not many players will come out. It hurts there monetary sponsorships, which it shouldn't, and in male sports there is a stigma. Now in tennis there are two guys or two women across the net from each other and it seems there are definitive boundaries about each other's personal lives. When you think about it there are rankings up to 1000 on the ATP. The fact that numerous players are in the closet is very telling of the sport.

  • @michelez715
    @michelez715 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Good for Da Silva. I don't think it will encourage other male players to come out, mostly because of the fear of losing lucrative sponsorship deals, but this is often how acceptance and equality are reached, by slow steps.

    • @nt4081
      @nt4081 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, but he is not even in the top 100, so he is likely not risking much.

  • @oyamadyosiba2938
    @oyamadyosiba2938 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Former American player Brian Vahaly came out as gay in 2017, but only several years after retiring.

    • @BigTimeShowdown
      @BigTimeShowdown 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂

    • @williammaddox3339
      @williammaddox3339 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      More like many years after he retired.

    • @nt4081
      @nt4081 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@williammaddox3339 Some of the women are faking marriage just for the sponsorship that they are tied to , even in retirement.

  • @gerardmackay8909
    @gerardmackay8909 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Excellent news! Elite men’s tennis has been a stubborn bastion of macho homophobia for too long and hopefully this is the first chip away at that intolerant edifice. To those who say ‘no-one cares anymore’ and ‘stop drawing attention to yourself’. Tell that to the thousands of men worldwide who are languishing in custody or even facing execution simply for being who they are. Big well done from me to this splendid athlete.

    • @gregmcfarnon1140
      @gregmcfarnon1140 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Macho homophobia? How?

    • @gerardmackay8909
      @gerardmackay8909 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gregmcfarnon1140 When asked about the subject, the very civilise, urbane Roger Federer conceded it was a homophobic environment. Many of the top players were/are from Russia and Eastern Europe where attitudes were (and are) still often in the Dark Ages - not all of course I hasten to add, but enough. Janko Tipsarevich, a man known to be literate and cultured, tweeted some very unpleasant comments as has Goran Ivanesevic to name but two. Anyway don’t take my word for it do some research yourself and see what you can find out (and I don’t mean ‘hearsay and gossip’ I mean verifiable direct quotes).

    • @gerardmackay8909
      @gerardmackay8909 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gregmcfarnon1140 I tried replying but it was blocked. Tipsarevich, Ivanesevic are two. The men’s game is dominated by countries east of the Alps. Go figure

    • @gerardmackay8909
      @gerardmackay8909 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@gregmcfarnon1140 furthermore both Federer and Murray have conceded in interviews it’s unfortunately true, and they are pretty decent sources.

    • @gregmcfarnon1140
      @gregmcfarnon1140 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @gerardmackay8909 You mention two players, neither of whom have been on the tour for years and I have never heard Federer, Murray nor anyone else say a word on the subject.
      Listen I have no doubt men's pro sport - any sport- is likely to have macho overtones and an international sport such as tennis will hardly be a platform of liberal views but "bastion of macho homophobia" and "intolerant edifice" sounds rather exaggerated. It's not really a subject which is discussed much publicly among tennis players and nor should it be.

  • @mariepelletier3020
    @mariepelletier3020 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Tricky because it is international, nonetheless important. Takes a lot of courage to come out and will it affect the player, so perhaps the ATP should have a plan in place.

  • @photobearcmh
    @photobearcmh 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    In an interview, Brian Valhaley was asked why he didn't come out. He responded that it would leave you completely isolated on the tour. That's a shame. Playing professional tennis is hard enough without the added pressure of staying in the closet and having to hide who you really are. It's a disgrace that American football is more progressive than tennis. I hope he is able to create some change.

  • @ZhanaZee
    @ZhanaZee 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why are we stressing over peoples sexual proclivities with CONSENTING adults? It’s getting old already

    • @sds2954
      @sds2954 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Because everything groundbreaking makes headline news. But you are right, hopefully we will get to point where no one feels the need to "come out" in order to feel safe to live their lives as their authentic selves

  • @kmsgero
    @kmsgero 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Thank you Tennis Now

  • @lenglab5390
    @lenglab5390 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good on you mate.❤🎉

  • @carolinegardner8214
    @carolinegardner8214 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Keep it to yourself players don’t be made t9 be a mascot activist to promote agendas that don’t benefit you. Don’t feel pressured to ruin your life wait till your career is done.

  • @ericdickerson3757
    @ericdickerson3757 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The fact that there are more out women players than men means women are braver, and as a man it’s ridiculous more male players aren’t out. Use the women for inspiration the out hero spot light is waiting…

    • @BigTimeShowdown
      @BigTimeShowdown 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Lesbianism is slightly less frowned upon.
      Not that lesbians don't face any bigotry ( they do!) but generally there is less of a taboe on girls kissing than guys kissing.

  • @Mark-tb3dw
    @Mark-tb3dw 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It will be a breath of fresh air when this is no longer an issue. People should live their truths. We really have to get over this stigma. It shouldn't define them. It's how great they are at their craft that matters.

  • @henry-bo3np
    @henry-bo3np 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are more openly gay NFL football players than openly gay male tennis players. Why is it so hard for male tennis players to come out?

  • @msem6136
    @msem6136 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Interesting...
    Personally: I think one would play their best tennis when happy and feel truly looked after.
    There's enough countries in the world where one can be safe to not worry about going where not free or safe.
    Beliefs and ideals over money any day!! 🤑👎

  • @humbecano1959
    @humbecano1959 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Y la "amistad" de rafa Nadal con picó Mónaco y otros chicos.

  • @maning313
    @maning313 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ABOUT TIME!

  • @bigboytennis1
    @bigboytennis1 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Only 2nd in atp history? Jim Courier? Jan Michael Gambill? Just to name a couple others. Probably lots more.

    • @Swerlware
      @Swerlware 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Courier has been married for 15 years and has 3 kids...don't speculate

    • @nt4081
      @nt4081 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Swerlware It is possible that he can be gay still. I remember Calvin Klien was "married" back in the early 80's, looked gay to me and most in fashion are gay, but he had a daughter and a wife for many years. Then he gets divorced and was dating a male porn star. You never know, and many in Hollywood marry to conceal their true self.

  • @truthinlondon9121
    @truthinlondon9121 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you guys just outed him lol

  • @shaneterry_tennisnewsupdates
    @shaneterry_tennisnewsupdates 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It amazes me how players coming out is so taboo within tennis.

    • @nt4081
      @nt4081 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is not just tennis. It amazes me that people to not understand how sponsorships and endorsements are about image and the contracts contain clauses about behavior, or something that a person did not disclose. Same thing with many actors, they are fearful that they will not get much work as an out gay man or woman.

  • @simply_flamingo7967
    @simply_flamingo7967 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Carlos should come out. He screams gay!

    • @frances-p9z
      @frances-p9z 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He would lose too many endorsements if he did

    • @kojoharrison630
      @kojoharrison630 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You just want him to be gay!! Is this your fantasy? 😆😆

  • @ruboarg
    @ruboarg 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Coming out is the only choice!

  • @squishee7938
    @squishee7938 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Must be a slow news day..

  • @allanhewick168
    @allanhewick168 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    C'mon Tennis Now. I know the tour is on a break, but this should not be "NEWS". By putting a spotlight on this couple and trying to make them news, by definition you contradict everything that was said about hoping for inclusion and equality. Let everyone live however they want if they are not hurting anyone and stop talking about it. That's when there will be equality.

  • @andrewromero5008
    @andrewromero5008 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why are we still discussing this subject?

  • @humbecano1959
    @humbecano1959 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Y Nadal porque no dice nada al respecto?

  • @koji1319
    @koji1319 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    NO ONE REALLY $%^^CARE ITS 2025 WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS

    • @BigTimeShowdown
      @BigTimeShowdown 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      People DO care. Believe me. But that is exactly the point.

  • @jdm839
    @jdm839 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    No one cares about this stuff anymore. People are people - not special based on how they get off.

    • @AC-ss5oy
      @AC-ss5oy 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      we care

    • @gerardmackay8909
      @gerardmackay8909 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Male elite tennis is a well known macho and very homophobic environment and that is universally known in sporting circles. Have a look at social media comments to find out whether ‘no-one cares’ not to mention the dozens of countries which still routinely imprison and sometimes execute men JUST like him for simply BEING like him. Your comment is crass in the extreme. Big well done to this man from me 👍

    • @Leomerya12
      @Leomerya12 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      "No one cares about this stuff anymore. "
      This is an incredibly ignorant and not thought-out comment.

    • @MegaGo68
      @MegaGo68 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      No, where there are literally zero out players, it matters, and that's obvious.

    • @dmitryishtuganov1942
      @dmitryishtuganov1942 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MegaGo68it is not like many of top-100 players hide their sexual preferences. They are simply all straight and there is nothing surprising about it. Qualities required for success in tennis and male homosexuality don’t come along often. On the other hand, female homosexuality is actually a positive factor for tennis success. So it is quite natural that numerous women have come out and almost no men did. It simply reflects the real situation. There might be some gay players on the ATP, but the number of them will be minimal

  • @Forever20young
    @Forever20young 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Shoutout to the GayTP tour! 🌈😉

  • @davidbrims5825
    @davidbrims5825 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Groan.

  • @lencescapes
    @lencescapes 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

  • @FLATSWISS
    @FLATSWISS 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A gay tennis player is fine, maybe that alternative lifestyle will help them discover that they are divinely created and living on a divinely created enclosed stationary plane earth… the 500 year globe earth lie is so passé…peace on the plane earth brothers and sisters

  • @jrleps1393
    @jrleps1393 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why come out? I don't come out! Playing tennis has nothing to do with what you do in your bedroom. It's your business only. Honestly, you do not need to tell everyone what your sex preference is.