Amazing that even in "dead" waters at the bottom of the ocean, the wreck is still a very dynamic place. I think it would be fun to install hydrophones on and around the ship to listen for structural changes as the ship deteriorates . I'm sure it would sound very creepy and very interesting hearing the metal groan and strain as things deteriorate and collapse.
Kinda intriguing that the titanic sunk at the “perfect spot” to where it could be somewhat preserved for over a century which is probably longer than it would’ve lasted if it didn’t sink
I agree the fact that were able to have such a artifact from history persevered for future generations the north atlantic in general is a perfect spot cold and deep if only we could take care of the rust-icles
Curious how haunting it would have been had we been able to get down there and document the wreck right after it happened. It's certainly chilling to see it a century later all deterioriated, but imagine having images of the wreck when it was fresh and even more recognizable
Probably as haunting and outright uncomfortable it is to see photos of wrecks like the MS Estonia which to my understanding does indeed still have bodies in it. There's also a lot of bodies preserved in shipwrecks in the great lakes that you can even find on videos here on TH-cam believe it or not.
@@naisagathefirstdestronmand8559 Titanic is in so deep, that I don’t think human body can take the preassure. Maybe some skeletal remains could’ve been.
@@Z3ZP You as a person wouldn’t live, but your body would’ve survived, just flattened as all the air is exploded out and what little empty space the body has all caved in.
She's still one of the most beautiful vessels I've ever laid eyes on. Although the newer modern ocean liners dwarf her in size, they nailed every single part of the design perfectly 108 years ago.
tommy vlogs she was at the time, it’s confirmed that Titanic was the biggest moving object on the planet, I think all 3 Olympic class liners had that title(though I’m not too sure about Britannic even though it was the biggest of the three)
"Titanic's wreck is in a shocking condition." Yeah news articles thank you for informing us. Had no idea being at the bottom of the ocean for 107 years would do that to a ship.
@@Evongelo your smart arnt you? for one its a british ship 2: thr company that it was under isnt around anymore (and im not sure who the successors are but i bet they arnt american) the only american thing about the titanic was 1: its destination and 2: some of its passangers
I know right. The sensationalist media overhyped it back in August by saying there was significant deterioration, when that wasn't the case. They only did three dives during the expedition and only showed about six minutes worth of footage in the documentary. Really disappointing.
Generic guy Productions The fake news media establishment-I hate to quote The Donald, but it’s true. Simply dishonest reporting. Either way, it must have been a low-budget dive, the footage was disappointing.
It is sad to see the Titanic disappearing slowly but it is also fascinating to see how nature reclaims even something as massive as this majestic vessel.
The only upside to this gradual deterioration is that maybe as a result parts of the hull or roofs will fall away and allow us to see the interiors of places we never could before.
I don't think so. All what's going to happen is the same as to the captain's quarters and tub. The other parts will collapse onto them. It would be cool if something got revealed, though.
It would be amazing to see the areas that are unaccessible to ROVs, such as Scotland Road, but unfortunately such spaces would probably be destroyed in the process.
As much as I agree that the Titanic is a grave, its also a very historical piece of history. If we don't save bits and pieces now then it'll be forever lost in time. If the relics & objects of Titanic can be saved and preserved in a museum then I support it. If someone retrieves it and keeps it for themselves than nah, I disapprove. Save what you can while you can. I can't agree with George below so that's why I'm replying indirectly to them. I'm happy that doorway and a piece of the wall was recovered. We need to recover more while being respectful.
We've been importing whatever parts we can for quite a long time. I've been to a the Titanic exhibit that's mentioned in this video they had tons of parts from the wreck in there it was quite amazing.
Since that kind of deep sea diving wasn't around until the 1950s it would only theoretically have been possible to find the wreck roughly 30 years earlier than was actually the case. And that's only regarding the actual diving equipment; I'm kind of doubtful 1950s sonar technique would have been sufficient to get the job of actually locating the wreck done. At that time it probably wouldn't have been in that much better shape than in the 1980s. Perhaps the paint would have been more visible and a bit less rust for sure, but most of the structural damage probably happened already when the ship hit the ocean floor in April of 1912.
I wonder that too, but today even more than ever before after watching the news that the wreckage is deteriorating quickly. If the wreckage could've been discovered like only a few years after it sank, say like 1915 or something, and they had taken photos, would've been a lot better. It was discovered in 1985, and the funny thing is its discovery wasn't the primary goal of the people who actually found the wreckage. Mr Robert Ballard is his name I think, he made a deal with the U.S. military to find the wreckage of two U.S. submarines that sunk in the North Atlantic, just like the Titanic did, and Ballard's team " accidentally" found the Titanic's wreckage too. They came across the boiler first, and the debris field led them to finding the bow section, its front buried deep into the seabed. They also learned the ship had indeed broken apart into 2 structures ( or maybe it's more accurate to say a wreckage in 2 sections) . So...' the survivor accounts were accurate ' they thought. The stern, more severely damaged compared to the bow, is located around half a mile away from the bow. When the bow was located in 1985 the crow's nest on the mast was still there. Today, they say the crow's nest collapsed due to being too fragile.
@@danieldoo1821 Credit to Ballard for the discovery, but he's been kind of a dick about it since. He thinks recovering artifacts is somehow disrespectful to the dead. Like plates and tea cups on display in a museum is the equivalent of pissing on a grave. The recovered artifacts keep the memory alive. I think its cool you can go to Las Vegas and see a section of the hull. We can enjoy it instead of oxidizing bacteria.
@@MakerInMotion I mean taking a piece of the hull that wasn’t attached is one thing, but taking artifacts off the ship itself, or trying, is how we lost the crows nest.
One thing that I find comforting is that even though the metal and wood may disappear, countless glass, porcelain and leather objects will rest for much much longer below the sea, preserving her memory
Sadly the stern was totally destroyed the night of the sinking. The pressure almost exploded it. I would still be very interested in seeing what is still locked up in the major safe on the ship. Most of the jewelry is locked in the water tight safe. It was overwhelming and the officers could not get to every guest who had items in there. It is still locked and I believe because of the location within the ship, is still unaccessible. That safe has stories to tell. I'm sure if records were looked up they could trace the jewelry to the insurance clames, that's if it is ever found and opened..
Interesting story, never heard about it. I bet the watertight safe is no longer watertight, both from the corrosion and the elements as well the pressure. The wreck is at 3800 meters, so the pressure is almost 3800 tons per square meter.
It will never be opened. It's way too deep for human divers and constructing some sort of robot capable of cutting it open would be cost prohibitive. It's better off left alone as a tomb rather than being looted.
U-boats in WWII liked to lurk near the Lusy's wreck, masked by the large sonar and magnetic shadow of the liner. The RN therefore pounded the area on a regular basis, badly damaging the wreck. Not long ago, divers brought up what they thought was an encrusted champagne magnum. It turned out to be an unexploded Hedgehog anti-sub weapon!
plus that due to the fact that it only sank in 18 minutes, there was not enough time for the ship to fill up with water first like the bow section of the Titanic did. this is important because the hydrostatic equilibrium between the ocean and the ship prevents the depth-induced implosions caused when a ship full of air sinks, like what happened to the stern section of the Titanic. even though the Lusitania is a relatively shallow wreck, it lies deep enough for those massive air pockets to cause huge implosions of the water bursting through the hull followed by explosions of the air bursting outwards (it lies below "crush depth").
The reason why I named the Lusitania wreck as an example, is because the enormous depth of the Titanic wreck is very much a saving grace. The wreck cannot be damaged by surface vessels or salvagers.
Consider this: If the Titanic never sunk it likely would have been used in the war like the Britannic that hit a mine and sink, or would have been scrapped like the Olympic in 1935 which was also used in the war to transport troops. Either way its best shot at making it into 2020 was how it went down.
I would love a video game where you board the titanic as one of the actual passengers and live out the last few days as that person; the game shows you 1900s etiquette, pastimes, and dialogue, and then when the ship sinks you find out if your character survived or not
@@jdog167 They're always posting updates on their process and have been very adamant that the project will not be dropped. Just remember they're modeling the WHOLE SHIP in 3D in excruciating details, then you add the game development bit to it, plus the fact it's an independent project... It's bound to take some time. :)
@@jdog167 I doubt it. They've been dragging their knuckles on that project for over a decade. IF and only If it ever gets released to the public, the engine they use on that game will be outdated.
Thank you. Finally a clear and detailed analysis of the changes due to deterioration. In addition, your speculations are appreciated due to their logical assumptions.
I recall seeing ROV video footage from inside the wreck which showed that the further inwards one ventured, the less growth and deterioration there was and the overall condition of wall panels was considerably better than those nearer to the exterior. I suspect that it will take the development of smaller ROV's which are less likely to face entanglement problems with dislodged pieces of wreckage inside the wreck to video record the least deteriorated and damaged sections deeper in the hull. Whenever one hears derogatory remarks about Health & Safety Regulations being too much, spare a thought for those passengers as they came to the horrific realization that there were never enough lifeboats to accommodate them and that their only certainty was that the boat was going to sink out beneath their feet into the freezing waters of the Atlantic Ocean...
Unfortunate a lot of our health and safety practices were written in blood. It would be cool to see underwater drones though, that could navigate all the hallways of the ship
I really wish there was more information on the stern. It's always the most fascinating part to me simply because of the lack of information. Especially the debate between whether it had a 3 or 4 blade prop in the middle. Although contrary to the Lusitania and Andrea Doria, the Titanic's sister ship Britannic has actually been very well preserved in shallow water. This is believed to be because of high competition amongst organisms attached to the ship. They tend to feed on one another before the ship.
With the exception of a few Titanic buffs who are still in denial, the debate regarding the center propeller is over, it has 3 blades, and it's buried under about 20ft of sediment so the chances of seeing it are nil. However, there are at least 2 pieces of documentation which confirm it, one being the notebook which has the exact specifications for a 3 bladed prop listed, the other is in the form of documentation regarding the low pressure steam turbine being optimized to be used with a 3 bladed prop. In addition to the documents, there are also at least two photos which show a 3 bladed prop laying dockside along with the wing propeller hubs awaiting to be installed on Titanic, one photo isn't very clear but it shows the props profile and it is 3 bladed. There is also a photo which shows the prop from an angle and it clearly has 3 blades. There are no pics with the blades installed but the two pieces of documentation along with the photos in addition to the circumstantial evidence of Olympic being temporarily fitted with a 3 bladed center prop in 1913 pretty much closes the debate. A much larger debate now is over the color ''White Star Buff'', no one knows for sure exactly what color it was. There is also heated debate over the exact color of the antifouling paint used on the hull, was it red, pink, a shade of purplish pinkish red? No one knows and pics of the wreck are no help because the paint tends to change color very rapidly once exposed to the elements.
I have a special place in my heart for TITANIC, I've studied the Olympic class sisters since 1986 and know the subject well. That said, this is sad but natural, she's a shipwreck and as such she's at the mercy of the sea which is claiming her further, this is happening and as an enthusiast it must be understood and accepted as hard fact. A bitter pill to swallow but natural. We've gotten all we can from her, she's been studied, scrutinized, picked clean and the mysteries surrounding her sinking have been debated and solved ad nauseum. It's time to say goodbye and let her go.
Let her go and sink the 2nd time to dust. This would not happen if you could just stop in front of the ice not turning. She's a awesome wreck but that's what you should do. Stop.
The Titanic is made from the earth and is slowly being returned to the earth. Sort of like how we all will one day. But what matters the most is that we never forget that fateful night and the lessons we have learned from it.
You can see how the more recent pictures are so much clearer and more detailed than the older ones from the 80’s. Imagine if we could have taken a sub down there after only a few weeks or even a year.
I think it's interesting to see how well the Titanic and Britannic have held up on the sea floor. The Britannic especially. You can tell H&W Really put their all into these liners and it's a damn shame they didn't get a proper career
@Reunite The British Empire If you truly believe that bullshit you are a fool. Try convincing all the people that died in this wreck. I'd bet they could teach you a few things
@Henry Ford do you also believe the earth is flat? Just wondering, you do sound like a maniac in any case. Why would anyone fake a shipwreck until now? If it was a hoax back then, why would it matter to continue the hoax for over 100 years? Of course its not fake dude
Alexander Carder the guys in 2010 must be using some wireless sea drone or something because you only see that kind of distortion due to internet problems
@@slickchick5811 i was talking about the quality of the pictures themselves rather than the state of the ship. how the hell can the ship look better than it did 10 years despite deterioration? you really have to think about what you're saying and wonder if it makes any sense before assuming im actually saying that. do you take me for an idiot or something?
I remember reading a magazine article when I was in forth grade stating that the wreck was to completely disappear by 2012! I’m glad that article was wrong but it doesn’t seem that there’s much time left anyhow.
Unfortunately the wreck of the Titanic will disappear completely one day but she will never be truly gone. She will live on forever in hearts, minds, stories, and work.
The pressure where the Titanic lies is so immense its measured at 380 Atmospheres. Just to give you guys an example look up the Byford Dolphin Rig Accident, they were drilling at an dept of 10 Atmospheres (at the top of the ocean the atmosphere pressure is 1) they had a major malfunction and the pressure was so immense that the entire crew died almost instantly. That was only 10 atmospheres and the Titanic is lying at an dept of more than 3.8 kilometers making this place, so hostile that you have a better chance surviving on the moon then here.
My guess of Captain's logs "Captain's log April 14 1912 (11:45 pm), everything is according to plan to sail out to new york, wait what's that over there?..." "Captain's log April 15,1912 (1:05 pm), everything is going wrong oh golly gee we hit an iceberg and broke the the front of the Titanic, it's sinking slowly" "Captain's log April 15,1912 (1:24 pm) I saw man got shot today gee whiz all passengers were at the life boats not enough for all of us, not gonna make it..." "Captain's log April 15,1912 (1:36 pm) "I saw someone walloped an old lady in the face to get in the life raft these animals" "Captain's log April 15,1912 (2:00 pm) "that's enough I'm going back to my quarters and dying with her but where would I conceal my Captain's log for the next generation to find?..." Tbh I didn't think I would go this far It's just for giggles or something you can read randomly off the comments but won't be seen like the Captain's logs
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Looking at the Titanics current state, we should notice how lucky we are to have the Britannic, which is in a surprisingly good condition. I'm surprised the interior hasn't been properly explored.
Unfortunately it's a shambling ruin, I doubt we could successfully navigate if we developed technology specifically for that, as it is always falling apart. It is a shame though
Interesting how different Titanic and Britannic's wrecks are. Despite Britannic being in shallower, warmer water, it appears to be in much better condition. I've heard she's not necessarily as strong as people say, but by comparison that ship seems to be suffering from much less collapse. Even inside the wreck where the rusticles can form, there's still far less of them, and interiors seem so well preserved it's as if you could just wipe away the debris and they would look nearly pristine by comparison. It'd be fascinating to see an analysis like this for Britannic but unfortunately it doesn't have as extensive of a library of photos and sonar scans. The last one done of the whole wreck was in 2003, a new one to compare it with would be useful.
The Britannic´s hull is beeing protected by corals developing in the warm mediterranian waters, compared to the cold in the North Atlantic. The iron-eating bacteria (known as Holomonas Titanicae) are also a big factor and thrives in cold waters.
@@Sumermak Oh yeah it's right on the verge of the depths humans can physically go, and is only for experienced divers, but even then it's much easier compared to Titanic. I think in the 1970's documentary with Cousteau diving to it, he didn't even wear gloves while touching it
@@jamesricker3997 That had nothing do with the quality of it at all. You don't put steel meant for warships into a cruise liner, namely because it reduces your passenger capacity and increases costs. A cruise liner isn't meant to take a hit hence why it uses the bare minimum. The steel used on warships by contrast is designed to take a hit and usually made up a third of the ships weight when it came to armor. Titanic weighed as much as a Bismarck class battleship and in those days she was built with the best quality materials at the time including a hybrid propulsion system.
@Reaper The drain plug just might be closed for some reason perhaps the captain was going to take a bath? But I agree with You it seams strange after al this years
It was always in pretty miserable shape. In the 60s and 70s, as the technology improved to where locating the wreck became feasible, many scientists thought the wreck would be very well preserved due to the great depths it was at and low oxygen. Obviously, it was pretty disappointing to find it hardly recognizable--twisted and mangled up, buried deep into the mud (up to the anchor). French scientists released a study on finding the wreck, and the illustrations were very, very ambitious.
As appreciative as I am of the expeditions, I was surprised to hear how seemingly careless they've been by causing more destruction down there. Knocking the crow's nest off the mast? That seems easily avoidable, and what a shame as it's such a significant part of the story.
The expedition that recovered the brass bell from the mast was responsible for dislodging the crow's nest; it may have fallen into the well deck hold opening, which could explain its apparent disappearance.
Whenever I hear about how she's deteriorating my mind goes to the stunning Turkish baths footage we've been able to get from the wreck, it's sad that it will all disappear soon. Ps: this was an incredibly good video, I enjoyed every second of it. Bravo!
This is very well presented information and independent analysis. I loved the Titanic and the history of the wreck as a kid 20 years ago, and still love getting to know more about it. I even met Dr Ballard on the 100th anniversary of the sinking.
Appreciate the effort to put this video and examination together. In my mind, I'm curious how the buried bow section will fair over time. I would guess that it is going to be there much longer than most of the main hull area. I would hate to expose it to the elements, but I do wonder what we would see if some of the ocean floor could be dug away from the the side of the extreme bow or prow. Would we find nearly preserved paint on steel ? virtually no deterioration? or as the wreck bends and perhaps opens up more, could a submersible reach the inside lower section where the damaged occurred ? would to much silt and mud been pushed through the damage as the bow impacted with the ocean floor? All speculation that will most likely never be known.
Wow...FANTASTIC video, great information. Good job on the presentation and showing of the before/after pics...really good stuff that I've yet to see on any other video!
@@tur74d56 Given the strict guidelines that govern the wreck site I've long since abandoned any concerns I had about salvage operations. I feel that Titanic has such a uniqueness about it in how it has this sort of "hold" on the psyche that's universal. It would be one thing if we saw this massive black market for salvaged artifacts, but this simply isn't the case for Titanic. I believe these salvaged artifacts serve to inform the public about a period of history that otherwise would be forgotten. As for items I'd like seeing salvaged are as much of the telegraph machinery as possible. Its existence was why those 712 - 705 passengers and crew members lucky enough to secure seating in Titanic's limited lifeboats got picked up before the Atlantic's normally choppy seas picked back up later in the day of the 15th. It would also be amazing if just one bag from Titanic's mail room could be salvaged.
@@criticalhard Yes, basically any non-ferrous metal object will withstand the rusticle cancer and technically could be up for grabs insofar as a potential salvageable item. The biggest problem we face going forward is all the ferrous material collapsing on top of the "good stuff" making its detection harder and/or impossible. Scotland Road is a good example of this. We're unable to utilize that long corridor to explore the deepest recesses of E deck and the countless rooms and attaching corridors due to the general collapse of the ceiling overhead which is a pity.
It's 2020 and I've heard a rumour that the boat deck is completely gone. Long live Titanic. Gone but not forgotten. Wonder how long before the starboard promenade on a deck completely collapses. Great video and very entertaining.
The bathtub is still there. I believe it's just mostly covered with sediment. I had my doubts when I read articles stating it was gone and sure enough, there's at least one article pretty much confirming it's there, just hidden
I’m genuinely surprised the stern is still even up right considering the implosion that occurred soon after sinking. You’d think it would’ve pancaked after striking bottom. The forward hill is well expected at least
I’m not sure why people think this ship will be around forever. It’s been under cold saltwater for over a hundred years, what do you think is going to happen in that time frame. Not being a dick but you don’t think that there would be significant decay after 100 years, especially a ship that’s made out of iron and steel.
OutTour yes but they’re usually found in extremely cold areas and under ice. The HMS Erebus is a good example of this. It been under ice in the Northwest Passage for around 170 years but it’s hull remains
Hardly anyone talks about it, but another factor in the degradation of the wreck is our own carelessness. For example, the crow's nest on the forward mast is just one of many items on the ship that has been hit by submersibles and destroyed. If you look at the composite images showing a top-down view of the bow from the 80s and today, you will also see a large, cleared out spot on the hull where hundreds of subs have landed on the Titanic. I would love to visit the wreck someday, but the fact that so many people won't just "leave it alone" is sad. Dr. Robert Ballard is very passionate about the subject of people disturbing the Titanic.
@@AshleyH258 It wouldn’t have been in such a poor state as it is today though. We many still have the gymnasium intact to some degree. But alas we can’t change human carelessness
Clarification: A few people have written about the image at 3:10. On the image at that I am referring to the large piece of twisted grey metal that is hanging over the well deck, which can clearly be seen on the mosaics at 3:14. The White triangle at 3:10 was created by original the image creator. Originally I did intend to add my own illustration, but had not got around to it. I have made a note about this in the description.
Less and less Titanic, because each expedition takes part of it with them. Many smaller or larger artifacts are taken and they go to very rich collectors. They probably co-finance such expeditions. Some of the decks that disappeared within 5 years, and did not disappear for over 80 years earlier, are deliberate actions to extract valuable things from the inside. This beautiful ship began to quickly "fall apart" since 1985. Robert Ballard who discovered the Titanic believed that it should be left alone. Although he could become its owner by raising even one artifact, he did not. The people of RMS Titanic Inc. were unscrupulous. This is the whole secret of the "disappearance" of this great liner.
popmart32 : If artifacts were not removed from the wreck, they would be lost forever. Future generations will have no wreck to explore and photograph, only the artifacts. This alone is a good reason to recover as much as possible before it is all lost in 2 giant heaps of rusticles on the sea bed. Unlike 1985, all the Titanic survivors are dead now, and even their direct descendants are nearly all dead too. The argument not to touch the wreck because it is a grave site is no longer as compelling without living survivors or close relatives to feel distress. Nobody made that argument in the case of the Mary Rose and Vasa when they were raised.
Well yeah divers will take some small things that show someones struggle or something important but they didnt just take parts of the ship 99% of the parts that have dissapeared Just dissolved
@@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 : Better than having them lost forever. Collectors die and their stuff gets auctioned off. Museums can bid for them then.
Indicated at 3:12 is not a debris, but the forward auxiliary anchor. Important difference that the mast not slipped down a deck, but the upper part eroded away. Also ripped off the foecastle and splitted over... Sometimes I wonder what will remain of her after hundreds of years. After the bactera eaten all of the iron, even the boilers and the building size engines. Gilded brass and bronze fittings, heap of sinks and lavatories, countless plate and silverware neatly buried in the soil of the bottom... And the pearl-like rows of windowpanes outlining the silhouette of what was a ship once.
The only limit to resolution of film cameras is the computer and processes available to develop it at the time as long as you have the original negatives. Meanwhile digital looks good at the time but it was taken but pictures can’t be improved as technology advances.
Low Light. Even HD cameras start adding snow and other artifacting if there's insufficient light. It is so very dark that deep down. Even shining bright lights at it, you're still going to get a lot of grainy snow. Also, these cameras are behind very thick glass because of how deep you have to go and how strong the enclosure for the electronics has to be to maintain waterproofing.
1:18 - "In-fufficient information". Haha, congrats for making me chuckle! XD Seriously though, great video. Well narrated, very informative and lots of great pictures. You've earned yourself a sub, keep up the great work! :)
I wonder what will happen to the wrecks of other famous ships like Bismarck or other WWII Battleships and Carriers? Will they last longer due to thicker hulls, armor and more robust structure?
its kind of sad we couldn't find the ship until the late 80s but we are still absolutely fortunate to have been able to observe it for as long as we have been
I'm sure that looting has nothing to do with the damage, being that the majority of damage is around major points of entry for ROV's. I'm also sure the crows nest just disappeared without a trace. And isn't it strange that the bathtub is not visible anymore? I'm sure if the telemotor was not so well secured it also would be "disappeared".
I also think we should be salvaging as much as we can. We should pick up everything we can on the ocean floor also. Any people trapped would have been long gone, but museums will teach people so much about this great ship.
I always thought if Captain Smith survived the disaster his entire legacy would have been shattered beyond repair, similar to that of Bruce Ismay. By perishing in the disaster, he would find his way into the history books.
Frank Stark I do not think either Smith or Murdoch committed suicide. It simply does not suit any of their characters and Murdoch was seen working the collapsible in the final minutes of the ship. But there is an account that an officer did commit suicide, but who exactly we will never know.
interesting video. I'd like to see an updated report. I personally think that people cling too much to the past, some even going so far as to say that we need to "preserve" the wreck, which is obviously an absurd demand. Though we need to let go of the past and let nature take its course, I think that people should explore it as much as possible and think that the perspective that it is a "tomb" and therefore shouldn't be tampered with, just unnecessarily hampers research. There's no dead bodies left in Titanic and even if there were, I don't think that sending a craft to investigate would offend them. Research should just be done in the name of science and not for souvenir hunting. My guess is that it will still be recognizable for another 50-100 years. It likely won't be "gone" for probably millenia. Traces will likely still exist even after that.
In my opinion, trying to preserve the wreck would just stall the inevitable. What is important is that we never forget the 1400 people who have lost their lives and to never forget the important lessons we learn from the tragedy. So that life is never lost so needlessly again.
Because the wreck is a graveyard and an archaeological site. It makes sense to preserve it for its historical significance and loss of life, It's essentially a tomb like those in Egypt. It's a world wonder that shouldn't be picked apart.
@@TheMrPeteChannel You can still make out where bodies used to be by looking at pairs of shoes in the debris field. It still needs that standard of respect as a graveyard, but also handled cautiously as an archaeological site.
Just quickly reversed image searched it to double check. It's a real image from the wreck. Though what exactly that black thing in the background is beyond me.
Unfortunately I'll have to agree with roberto here. That's most definitely a model. It's dry, the lighting's off. And there's no water. i.pinimg.com/originals/75/7e/9a/757e9af2237a9d6a00cba32e527053a8.jpg And there's a camera mount.
The water does seem awfully clear (no floating debris). The black thing looks like a plastic garbage bag. And what's that modern-looking gizmo parked in the middle of the passageway?
John Doe In hindsight after further scrutinising the image and after reading your comments. It does actually look like a model/diorama and a very high detail one at that. Upon first glance it does look like a flash image from the wreck, but as far as I know there isn't any other similar images from the wreck. Plus I don't remember a wreck scene from the James Cameron movie taking place at that location. Could it be a unused model? But either way I will make a note of it in the description.
I've been curious about this as well. However, I doubt we'll ever know much, as the stern section collapsed on impact, making it pretty much impossible for an ROV to penetrate.
Stern section decks c collapsed. Decks looks more pancaked now. The part where poop deck remains and engines is in the same condition as it was in 1985.
One crazy idea that always stuck with me is building a containment area (like the New Safe Confinement in Chernobyl) around the bow section. It would then slowly replace the water with fluid that kills the iron-eating bacteria until it matches the outside pressure. Then the wreck could be preserved. It would be 1,000,000 times easier, safer, and less costly than raising it. Obviously this is a bit insane, but is still interesting to think about.
It's actually been estimated that explorers and looters have done more damage to the ship in 30 years than her actual sinking and subsequent 100 years on the ocean floor has ever done. The crow's nest was heavily damaged by looters, who carelessly ripped the bell from the mast and James Cameron's numerous dives to the wreck have been blamed for causing the greatest amount of damage to the ship since it hit the ocean floor.
Wayne Hampson Simple. Amount of steel in the ship (minus) amount of rusticles (times) how fast steel is consumed by rusticles = a calculated number of years. Also they have been able to study how much has already withered away since they first visited the wreck in 1985. She may still be there in 2112 but just as a iron deposit on the bottom of the sea which certainly won't look like a ship but a rusty heap of scrap metal. So traces of her will still be there but you won't call that a ship no more than you'll call a car which has gone through a giant shredder a car (also just pieces of scrap metal).
Here in Niagara Falls we have a well-known old barge/scow that's been stranded mid-river just above the actual Falls since 1918 - just six years after Titanic sank. Every year the scow continued to deteriorate much like the Titanic by water and ice erosion. Now there's very little left of the iconic barge - and every time I drive by the area it makes me think of the eventual fate of the Titanic wreckage. Soon it'll just be a memory and future generations will only have photos and video of the wreckage to study and analyze.
Wow, very interesting. Sad but interesting. Its one thing for it to fall apart, or deteriorate on its own, that is natural but humans have abused the ship, speeding up its demise. It'll be REALLY interesting to see what she looks like in another decade, because she seems to be deteriorating fast and fast each year.
Gellert Grindelwald Not exactly. It would most likely deteriorate just the same, albeit less damage to the stern. Also what has caused deterioration are iron-eating organisms, crushing ocean depths, and exposure to saltwater
That's why they need to explore the wreckage now before she is gone forever. There are many rooms that have not been explored yet. Some of them have artifacts that need to be brought up to the surface. There are many pieces of artwork inside her that needs to be found and brought up.
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There's no such thing as "microbacteria". Bacteria are already microscopic.
_Captain Smith's Bathtub_
Spoiler alert it over filled
@@mrkrills8839 And _that's_ how the Titanic sank.
Amazing that even in "dead" waters at the bottom of the ocean, the wreck is still a very dynamic place. I think it would be fun to install hydrophones on and around the ship to listen for structural changes as the ship deteriorates . I'm sure it would sound very creepy and very interesting hearing the metal groan and strain as things deteriorate and collapse.
Thats a great idea 💡 👍
That’s actually one of the best ideas I’ve ever heard in terms of monitoring the wreck
What a good idea I like it!
That comment made u sound like a crazy person
I’d love to hear that.
Kinda intriguing that the titanic sunk at the “perfect spot” to where it could be somewhat preserved for over a century which is probably longer than it would’ve lasted if it didn’t sink
I agree the fact that were able to have such a artifact from history persevered for future generations the north atlantic in general is a perfect spot cold and deep if only we could take care of the rust-icles
Ms. Tal if they died I think they were probably in the wrong place.
Ms. Tal wtf is a “perfect spot?”
@rudiger891 bruh, calm down
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we are lucky we've had her this long.
Wolfcat Wildcat well always have the 1997 movie
What , half a crossing ?
I agree.
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@@colinmontgomery1956 Asinine Remark, Really ?
Curious how haunting it would have been had we been able to get down there and document the wreck right after it happened. It's certainly chilling to see it a century later all deterioriated, but imagine having images of the wreck when it was fresh and even more recognizable
Probably as haunting and outright uncomfortable it is to see photos of wrecks like the MS Estonia which to my understanding does indeed still have bodies in it. There's also a lot of bodies preserved in shipwrecks in the great lakes that you can even find on videos here on TH-cam believe it or not.
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Titanic is in so deep, that I don’t think human body can take the preassure. Maybe some skeletal remains could’ve been.
@@Z3ZP You as a person wouldn’t live, but your body would’ve survived, just flattened as all the air is exploded out and what little empty space the body has all caved in.
She's still one of the most beautiful vessels I've ever laid eyes on. Although the newer modern ocean liners dwarf her in size, they nailed every single part of the design perfectly 108 years ago.
Except the hull
@@milesaharrison Lmao bro.
@@milesaharrison And the lifeboats...
My dumb ass still thought she was the biggest ship ever made
tommy vlogs she was at the time, it’s confirmed that Titanic was the biggest moving object on the planet, I think all 3 Olympic class liners had that title(though I’m not too sure about Britannic even though it was the biggest of the three)
"Titanic's wreck is in a shocking condition." Yeah news articles thank you for informing us. Had no idea being at the bottom of the ocean for 107 years would do that to a ship.
I can't tell if you are being genuine or being a sarcastic asshole. But I agree regardless
It's all Congress's fault. Spending so much money on war and welfare programs and ignoring infrastructure.
@@Evongelo your smart arnt you?
for one its a british ship
2: thr company that it was under isnt around anymore (and im not sure who the successors are but i bet they arnt american)
the only american thing about the titanic was
1: its destination and
2: some of its passangers
@@jakehehr7701 actually white star line merged with cunard line, which I think Is british.
Yeah what will we do with ourselves once its gone
*LOOKS LIKE THE TITANIC HAS BEEN GRIEFED, BUT THAT'S JUST A NORMAL DAY ON THE OLDEST ANARCHY SERVER IN MINECRAFT*
GioVez im done lmfao
Fitmc fan lol
Ah yes, a man of culture
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Man the 2019 expedition was such a disappointment.
I know right. The sensationalist media overhyped it back in August by saying there was significant deterioration, when that wasn't the case. They only did three dives during the expedition and only showed about six minutes worth of footage in the documentary. Really disappointing.
Generic guy Productions The fake news media establishment-I hate to quote The Donald, but it’s true. Simply dishonest reporting. Either way, it must have been a low-budget dive, the footage was disappointing.
You sure you're not talking about the one that got released in april? A clip doesn't last 40 minutes.
esv51 I have. It’s one of the few areas they visited apparently.
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The roof has completely collapsed and basically filled the bathtub, you can barely see it’s edges poking out from debris
It is sad to see the Titanic disappearing slowly but it is also fascinating to see how nature reclaims even something as massive as this majestic vessel.
The only upside to this gradual deterioration is that maybe as a result parts of the hull or roofs will fall away and allow us to see the interiors of places we never could before.
@Eric Harris in that case why does it matter? We weren't ever going to see them anyway
Probably not, I think we’ll see the internal structure collapse first.
I don't think so. All what's going to happen is the same as to the captain's quarters and tub. The other parts will collapse onto them. It would be cool if something got revealed, though.
My only request is that we see her when she finally goes it would be the end of not only an era but a unique piece of history.
It would be amazing to see the areas that are unaccessible to ROVs, such as Scotland Road, but unfortunately such spaces would probably be destroyed in the process.
I wonder if as she deteriorates she'll reveal the last of her secrets. Surely now is a good time for saving important parts of her?
well, no, i think it’s illegal to steal anything from there. it’s a grave at the end of the day
Just like your mom haha
As much as I agree that the Titanic is a grave, its also a very historical piece of history. If we don't save bits and pieces now then it'll be forever lost in time. If the relics & objects of Titanic can be saved and preserved in a museum then I support it. If someone retrieves it and keeps it for themselves than nah, I disapprove. Save what you can while you can. I can't agree with George below so that's why I'm replying indirectly to them.
I'm happy that doorway and a piece of the wall was recovered. We need to recover more while being respectful.
@@george-6133 who said anything about stealing? Do you know museums exist right?
We've been importing whatever parts we can for quite a long time. I've been to a the Titanic exhibit that's mentioned in this video they had tons of parts from the wreck in there it was quite amazing.
Makes me wonder how much we could have seen if it was discovered earlier
Since that kind of deep sea diving wasn't around until the 1950s it would only theoretically have been possible to find the wreck roughly 30 years earlier than was actually the case. And that's only regarding the actual diving equipment; I'm kind of doubtful 1950s sonar technique would have been sufficient to get the job of actually locating the wreck done. At that time it probably wouldn't have been in that much better shape than in the 1980s. Perhaps the paint would have been more visible and a bit less rust for sure, but most of the structural damage probably happened already when the ship hit the ocean floor in April of 1912.
I wonder that too, but today even more than ever before after watching the news that the wreckage is deteriorating quickly.
If the wreckage could've been discovered like only a few years after it sank, say like 1915 or something, and they had taken photos, would've been a lot better.
It was discovered in 1985, and the funny thing is its discovery wasn't the primary goal of the people who actually found the wreckage.
Mr Robert Ballard is his name I think, he made a deal with the U.S. military to find the wreckage of two U.S. submarines that sunk in the North Atlantic, just like the Titanic did,
and Ballard's team " accidentally" found the Titanic's wreckage too. They came across the boiler first, and the debris field led them to finding the bow section, its front buried deep into the seabed.
They also learned the ship had indeed broken apart into 2 structures ( or maybe it's more accurate to say a wreckage in 2 sections) . So...' the survivor accounts were accurate ' they thought.
The stern, more severely damaged compared to the bow, is located around half a mile away from the bow.
When the bow was located in 1985 the crow's nest on the mast was still there.
Today, they say the crow's nest collapsed due to being too fragile.
Imagine seeing the titanic the day after she sunk
@@danieldoo1821 Credit to Ballard for the discovery, but he's been kind of a dick about it since. He thinks recovering artifacts is somehow disrespectful to the dead. Like plates and tea cups on display in a museum is the equivalent of pissing on a grave. The recovered artifacts keep the memory alive. I think its cool you can go to Las Vegas and see a section of the hull. We can enjoy it instead of oxidizing bacteria.
@@MakerInMotion I mean taking a piece of the hull that wasn’t attached is one thing, but taking artifacts off the ship itself, or trying, is how we lost the crows nest.
One thing that I find comforting is that even though the metal and wood may disappear, countless glass, porcelain and leather objects will rest for much much longer below the sea, preserving her memory
Sadly the stern was totally destroyed the night of the sinking. The pressure almost exploded it. I would still be very interested in seeing what is still locked up in the major safe on the ship. Most of the jewelry is locked in the water tight safe. It was overwhelming and the officers could not get to every guest who had items in there. It is still locked and I believe because of the location within the ship, is still unaccessible. That safe has stories to tell. I'm sure if records were looked up they could trace the jewelry to the insurance clames, that's if it is ever found and opened..
Interesting story, never heard about it. I bet the watertight safe is no longer watertight, both from the corrosion and the elements as well the pressure. The wreck is at 3800 meters, so the pressure is almost 3800 tons per square meter.
@@pavel9652 hard do put that into perspective that's a fk load of weight
You just want that big blue diamond.
It will never be opened. It's way too deep for human divers and constructing some sort of robot capable of cutting it open would be cost prohibitive. It's better off left alone as a tomb rather than being looted.
Just cut through the ship to find it
The Lusitania’s wreck is in such a condition partially due to her being a bombing site for the Royal Navy.
U-boats in WWII liked to lurk near the Lusy's wreck, masked by the large sonar and magnetic shadow of the liner. The RN therefore pounded the area on a regular basis, badly damaging the wreck. Not long ago, divers brought up what they thought was an encrusted champagne magnum. It turned out to be an unexploded Hedgehog anti-sub weapon!
plus that due to the fact that it only sank in 18 minutes, there was not enough time for the ship to fill up with water first like the bow section of the Titanic did. this is important because the hydrostatic equilibrium between the ocean and the ship prevents the depth-induced implosions caused when a ship full of air sinks, like what happened to the stern section of the Titanic. even though the Lusitania is a relatively shallow wreck, it lies deep enough for those massive air pockets to cause huge implosions of the water bursting through the hull followed by explosions of the air bursting outwards (it lies below "crush depth").
The reason why I named the Lusitania wreck as an example, is because the enormous depth of the Titanic wreck is very much a saving grace. The wreck cannot be damaged by surface vessels or salvagers.
Phil Perry thank god. I thought I was they one who called her Lucy for short
@@George_E1907 "Lusy" (note the "s") was a common nickname for this ship, circa WWI.
Consider this: If the Titanic never sunk it likely would have been used in the war like the Britannic that hit a mine and sink, or would have been scrapped like the Olympic in 1935 which was also used in the war to transport troops. Either way its best shot at making it into 2020 was how it went down.
Not exactly comforting to the victims
@@JJAB91 - Yeah. This was a poor way of looking at things. It would have likely had much less life loss or even non, which is important.
Britannic did make it to 2022 then
So through people dying, predominantly the poor?
@@10msplits Well if it sunk with no lives lost the fact the wreck is still here wouldn't change
I would love a video game where you board the titanic as one of the actual passengers and live out the last few days as that person; the game shows you 1900s etiquette, pastimes, and dialogue, and then when the ship sinks you find out if your character survived or not
There’s a game like that being developed! Search for “Titanic: Honor and Glory”. Their work is truly amazing, they’re recreating the whole ship in 3D.
@@bia6677 Was about to say that.
@@bia6677 That game has been in development for a long time, I just wonder if we're ever gonna see it soon
@@jdog167 They're always posting updates on their process and have been very adamant that the project will not be dropped. Just remember they're modeling the WHOLE SHIP in 3D in excruciating details, then you add the game development bit to it, plus the fact it's an independent project... It's bound to take some time. :)
@@jdog167 I doubt it. They've been dragging their knuckles on that project for over a decade. IF and only If it ever gets released to the public, the engine they use on that game will be outdated.
Thank you. Finally a clear and detailed analysis of the changes due to deterioration. In addition, your speculations are appreciated due to their logical assumptions.
I recall seeing ROV video footage from inside the wreck which showed that the further inwards one ventured, the less growth and deterioration there was and the overall condition of wall panels was considerably better than those nearer to the exterior.
I suspect that it will take the development of smaller ROV's which are less likely to face entanglement problems with dislodged pieces of wreckage inside the wreck to video record the least deteriorated and damaged sections deeper in the hull.
Whenever one hears derogatory remarks about Health & Safety Regulations being too much, spare a thought for those passengers as they came to the horrific realization that there were never enough lifeboats to accommodate them and that their only certainty was that the boat was going to sink out beneath their feet into the freezing waters of the Atlantic Ocean...
Unfortunate a lot of our health and safety practices were written in blood. It would be cool to see underwater drones though, that could navigate all the hallways of the ship
Hubris will cost ya.
@@johndalton3180it will indeed, cough oceangate cough
BRUH, YOU GOT SOME OF THE BEST WRECK PICTURES I'VE EVER SEEN. THIS IS DOPE.
I really wish there was more information on the stern. It's always the most fascinating part to me simply because of the lack of information. Especially the debate between whether it had a 3 or 4 blade prop in the middle.
Although contrary to the Lusitania and Andrea Doria, the Titanic's sister ship Britannic has actually been very well preserved in shallow water. This is believed to be because of high competition amongst organisms attached to the ship. They tend to feed on one another before the ship.
With the exception of a few Titanic buffs who are still in denial, the debate regarding the center propeller is over, it has 3 blades, and it's buried under about 20ft of sediment so the chances of seeing it are nil. However, there are at least 2 pieces of documentation which confirm it, one being the notebook which has the exact specifications for a 3 bladed prop listed, the other is in the form of documentation regarding the low pressure steam turbine being optimized to be used with a 3 bladed prop. In addition to the documents, there are also at least two photos which show a 3 bladed prop laying dockside along with the wing propeller hubs awaiting to be installed on Titanic, one photo isn't very clear but it shows the props profile and it is 3 bladed. There is also a photo which shows the prop from an angle and it clearly has 3 blades. There are no pics with the blades installed but the two pieces of documentation along with the photos in addition to the circumstantial evidence of Olympic being temporarily fitted with a 3 bladed center prop in 1913 pretty much closes the debate. A much larger debate now is over the color ''White Star Buff'', no one knows for sure exactly what color it was. There is also heated debate over the exact color of the antifouling paint used on the hull, was it red, pink, a shade of purplish pinkish red? No one knows and pics of the wreck are no help because the paint tends to change color very rapidly once exposed to the elements.
I have a special place in my heart for TITANIC, I've studied the Olympic class sisters since 1986 and know the subject well. That said, this is sad but natural, she's a shipwreck and as such she's at the mercy of the sea which is claiming her further, this is happening and as an enthusiast it must be understood and accepted as hard fact. A bitter pill to swallow but natural. We've gotten all we can from her, she's been studied, scrutinized, picked clean and the mysteries surrounding her sinking have been debated and solved ad nauseum. It's time to say goodbye and let her go.
Let her go and sink the 2nd time to dust. This would not happen if you could just stop in front of the ice not turning. She's a awesome wreck but that's what you should do. Stop.
The Titanic is made from the earth and is slowly being returned to the earth. Sort of like how we all will one day. But what matters the most is that we never forget that fateful night and the lessons we have learned from it.
@GROWN WOMAN??? When did I say that?? I only said they should have stopped not turn. Prove what? Man what's up with people and proofs??
@GROWN WOMAN 😐 me calm down?!? Your using (HDHG) capital big letters like you're 😠 or something especially with the STOP.
@GROWN WOMAN I think your title “grown woman” is a bit misleading; whiny bitch would be more emblematic. Take the stick out of your ass and stfu🙃
It’s incredible to see how a shipwreck evolves over 40 years, and I think it’s also incredible that the wreck is still in such decent condition.
You can see how the more recent pictures are so much clearer and more detailed than the older ones from the 80’s. Imagine if we could have taken a sub down there after only a few weeks or even a year.
I think it's interesting to see how well the Titanic and Britannic have held up on the sea floor. The Britannic especially. You can tell H&W Really put their all into these liners and it's a damn shame they didn't get a proper career
@Reunite The British Empire well it didn't suffer much damage from decent since the water was so shallow, unlike the titanic
@Reunite The British Empire If you truly believe that bullshit you are a fool. Try convincing all the people that died in this wreck. I'd bet they could teach you a few things
LMAO!
@Henry Ford So a steam ship sinking by hitting an iceberg somehow scares people into using petroleum based fuel instead?
@Henry Ford do you also believe the earth is flat? Just wondering, you do sound like a maniac in any case. Why would anyone fake a shipwreck until now? If it was a hoax back then, why would it matter to continue the hoax for over 100 years? Of course its not fake dude
Titanic's Stern: I'II be in my bedroom making no noise and pretending I don't exist 😤😤
I like how the 198* photos look higher quality than 2010’s photos
That’s what I was thinking 🤔
Alexander Carder the guys in 2010 must be using some wireless sea drone or something because you only see that kind of distortion due to internet problems
@@ImNotFine44 You can see the mast is thinner and eaten away in the 2010 pic...of course the older pic will look better!
@@slickchick5811 i was talking about the quality of the pictures themselves rather than the state of the ship. how the hell can the ship look better than it did 10 years despite deterioration? you really have to think about what you're saying and wonder if it makes any sense before assuming im actually saying that. do you take me for an idiot or something?
@Taye _123 r/ihadastroke
I remember reading a magazine article when I was in forth grade stating that the wreck was to completely disappear by 2012! I’m glad that article was wrong but it doesn’t seem that there’s much time left anyhow.
Same here, same year, grade, and probably same article.
Unfortunately the wreck of the Titanic will disappear completely one day but she will never be truly gone. She will live on forever in hearts, minds, stories, and work.
Sadly scientists say the wreck will be gone in edit: 30 years sorry im eating too much pencil shavings
@@CrispyCross- Don't know what they've been smoking
CrispyCross - what 👆🏻this guy meant is I don’t know what you’ve been smoking.
@@dazbracken8177 :D
So you could say that it's here in our hearts, and our hearts will go on and on?
The pressure where the Titanic lies is so immense its measured at 380 Atmospheres. Just to give you guys an example look up the Byford Dolphin Rig Accident, they were drilling at an dept of 10 Atmospheres (at the top of the ocean the atmosphere pressure is 1) they had a major malfunction and the pressure was so immense that the entire crew died almost instantly. That was only 10 atmospheres and the Titanic is lying at an dept of more than 3.8 kilometers making this place, so hostile that you have a better chance surviving on the moon then here.
Very relevant conversation now 😮
They never found the Captain's log. My guess is it's in his toilet.
FraudBuster well funny 😄
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My guess of Captain's logs
"Captain's log April 14 1912 (11:45 pm), everything is according to plan to sail out to new york, wait what's that over there?..."
"Captain's log April 15,1912 (1:05 pm), everything is going wrong oh golly gee we hit an iceberg and broke the the front of the Titanic, it's sinking slowly"
"Captain's log April 15,1912 (1:24 pm) I saw man got shot today gee whiz all passengers were at the life boats not enough for all of us, not gonna make it..."
"Captain's log April 15,1912 (1:36 pm) "I saw someone walloped an old lady in the face to get in the life raft these animals"
"Captain's log April 15,1912 (2:00 pm) "that's enough I'm going back to my quarters and dying with her but where would I conceal my Captain's log for the next generation to find?..."
Tbh I didn't think I would go this far It's just for giggles or something you can read randomly off the comments but won't be seen like the Captain's logs
some guy with a blue mask lol well mad
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Rose: "Wait, micro bacteria."
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@@genericguyproductions123 yep
@@juangrnde8637 Is that why Rose couldn't let Jack on the door? Micro bacteria had eaten it away from underneath, we just couldn't see it?
2010: we have better photos! 1987: Hold my beer
Um, ocean eat + deterioration + time
@@slickchick5811 I know but 2010 still looks horrible
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Looking at the Titanics current state, we should notice how lucky we are to have the Britannic, which is in a surprisingly good condition. I'm surprised the interior hasn't been properly explored.
Unfortunately it's a shambling ruin, I doubt we could successfully navigate if we developed technology specifically for that, as it is always falling apart. It is a shame though
The Britannic is completely covered in coral.
At 9:16 you made a mistake when you said that the Gangway doorway was last seen in 1983, as the wreck was found in 1985
The wreckage was found on my 5th birthday! Love my little Titanic connection :)
RengenZohar he probably meant 93
That was a miss pronunciation on my part. I have already made a note about it in the description after another person had pointed it out.
Interesting how different Titanic and Britannic's wrecks are. Despite Britannic being in shallower, warmer water, it appears to be in much better condition. I've heard she's not necessarily as strong as people say, but by comparison that ship seems to be suffering from much less collapse. Even inside the wreck where the rusticles can form, there's still far less of them, and interiors seem so well preserved it's as if you could just wipe away the debris and they would look nearly pristine by comparison.
It'd be fascinating to see an analysis like this for Britannic but unfortunately it doesn't have as extensive of a library of photos and sonar scans. The last one done of the whole wreck was in 2003, a new one to compare it with would be useful.
The Britannic´s hull is beeing protected by corals developing in the warm mediterranian waters, compared to the cold in the North Atlantic. The iron-eating bacteria (known as Holomonas Titanicae) are also a big factor and thrives in cold waters.
Oh Lawdy I think it’s very difficult to get to brittanic and it’s actually considered a tough dive for those who’ve been to it.
@@Sumermak Oh yeah it's right on the verge of the depths humans can physically go, and is only for experienced divers, but even then it's much easier compared to Titanic. I think in the 1970's documentary with Cousteau diving to it, he didn't even wear gloves while touching it
There was a naval arms race going on at the time all the good steel went into warships.
Wreckd from world War 1 are in better condition
@@jamesricker3997 That had nothing do with the quality of it at all. You don't put steel meant for warships into a cruise liner, namely because it reduces your passenger capacity and increases costs. A cruise liner isn't meant to take a hit hence why it uses the bare minimum.
The steel used on warships by contrast is designed to take a hit and usually made up a third of the ships weight when it came to armor.
Titanic weighed as much as a Bismarck class battleship and in those days she was built with the best quality materials at the time including a hybrid propulsion system.
4:26 I see the bathtub is still full of water.
Reaper seems to have overflowed a bit
@William Denny FYI I did not.
Aren't you just the clever one!
@Reaper
The drain plug just might be closed for some reason perhaps the captain was going to take a bath? But I agree with You it seams strange after al this years
Water in water.
It was always in pretty miserable shape. In the 60s and 70s, as the technology improved to where locating the wreck became feasible, many scientists thought the wreck would be very well preserved due to the great depths it was at and low oxygen. Obviously, it was pretty disappointing to find it hardly recognizable--twisted and mangled up, buried deep into the mud (up to the anchor). French scientists released a study on finding the wreck, and the illustrations were very, very ambitious.
That's when they discovered rusticles and realised bacteria could thrive down there
Do you know where i can find those illustrations?
As appreciative as I am of the expeditions, I was surprised to hear how seemingly careless they've been by causing more destruction down there. Knocking the crow's nest off the mast? That seems easily avoidable, and what a shame as it's such a significant part of the story.
The expedition that recovered the brass bell from the mast was responsible for dislodging the crow's nest; it may have fallen into the well deck hold opening, which could explain its apparent disappearance.
Whenever I hear about how she's deteriorating my mind goes to the stunning Turkish baths footage we've been able to get from the wreck, it's sad that it will all disappear soon.
Ps: this was an incredibly good video, I enjoyed every second of it. Bravo!
There's a video from the ship the night the ship sank if so can you pls send me the link?
@@allyxoxo8972 no, I'm talking about the ROV footage which showed the Turkish baths in very good condition, it's here on youtube
@@skiingcrocodile2153 oh 👌 thanks for telling me though
@@allyxoxo8972 no problem!
@@brandonstevens5628 I know my bad I forgot😅
This is very well presented information and independent analysis. I loved the Titanic and the history of the wreck as a kid 20 years ago, and still love getting to know more about it. I even met Dr Ballard on the 100th anniversary of the sinking.
I like how 1987 pics are so much clearer its like we're evolving but backwards.
Film has infinite resolution it just depends on the power of the computer rendering it
Thank you for this in depth analysis of the decay rate, haven't seen it shown in such detail before! well made video
Appreciate the effort to put this video and examination together. In my mind, I'm curious how the buried bow section will fair over time. I would guess that it is going to be there much longer than most of the main hull area. I would hate to expose it to the elements, but I do wonder what we would see if some of the ocean floor could be dug away from the the side of the extreme bow or prow. Would we find nearly preserved paint on steel ? virtually no deterioration? or as the wreck bends and perhaps opens up more, could a submersible reach the inside lower section where the damaged occurred ? would to much silt and mud been pushed through the damage as the bow impacted with the ocean floor? All speculation that will most likely never be known.
According to Robert Ballard, yes, that section of the wreck is likely very well preserved.
Wow...FANTASTIC video, great information.
Good job on the presentation and showing of the before/after pics...really good stuff that I've yet to see on any other video!
Unfortunately, rusticles are eating her away.
To be tecnically annoying, the bacteria are the responsible and the rusticles are meerly the result (and not the cause) of the bacteria's action.
@@pca1987 why is the Bismark not getting eaten? The swastika on the wooden deck is still visible
thefinalroman it’s in a different place in the ocean, ecosystems change wherever we you go.
No shit sherlock
I wish this was longer.... I really enjoyed this analysis. New sub.
J from NJ/USA
Informative. Thanks :)
I remember reading an article in 2006, saying that the wreck will have disappeared in the next ten years
Nice work brother.. great piece.. well done! Michael Davinti
Do you know if any more artifacts were salvaged from the 2019 expedition?
Robby House No not as yet it was only a survey , however there are plans to raise more artefacts tho as usual there are people trying to stop it
@@tur74d56 Given the strict guidelines that govern the wreck site I've long since abandoned any concerns I had about salvage operations. I feel that Titanic has such a uniqueness about it in how it has this sort of "hold" on the psyche that's universal. It would be one thing if we saw this massive black market for salvaged artifacts, but this simply isn't the case for Titanic. I believe these salvaged artifacts serve to inform the public about a period of history that otherwise would be forgotten. As for items I'd like seeing salvaged are as much of the telegraph machinery as possible. Its existence was why those 712 - 705 passengers and crew members lucky enough to secure seating in Titanic's limited lifeboats got picked up before the Atlantic's normally choppy seas picked back up later in the day of the 15th. It would also be amazing if just one bag from Titanic's mail room could be salvaged.
We need to save the glass omg :( wood is probably all lost :( some chandeliers would be amazing to save too.
@@criticalhard Yes, basically any non-ferrous metal object will withstand the rusticle cancer and technically could be up for grabs insofar as a potential salvageable item. The biggest problem we face going forward is all the ferrous material collapsing on top of the "good stuff" making its detection harder and/or impossible. Scotland Road is a good example of this. We're unable to utilize that long corridor to explore the deepest recesses of E deck and the countless rooms and attaching corridors due to the general collapse of the ceiling overhead which is a pity.
Apparently they want to salvage the radio equipment from the wreck and put it in a museum. Last I heard they were trying to get permission to do so.
It's 2020 and I've heard a rumour that the boat deck is completely gone. Long live Titanic. Gone but not forgotten. Wonder how long before the starboard promenade on a deck completely collapses. Great video and very entertaining.
As a chief engineer of a merchant navy ship, everytime i hear new stories of the titanic i get goosebumps.
The bathtub is still there. I believe it's just mostly covered with sediment. I had my doubts when I read articles stating it was gone and sure enough, there's at least one article pretty much confirming it's there, just hidden
I’m genuinely surprised the stern is still even up right considering the implosion that occurred soon after sinking. You’d think it would’ve pancaked after striking bottom. The forward hill is well expected at least
I dont understand why you only have 730 subscribers.
I’m not sure why people think this ship will be around forever. It’s been under cold saltwater for over a hundred years, what do you think is going to happen in that time frame. Not being a dick but you don’t think that there would be significant decay after 100 years, especially a ship that’s made out of iron and steel.
Mouse in your pocket?
I agree.
She'd be around forever if she sank in the black sea XD
I'm not knowledgeable on this but wasn't/isn't there wooden ships from like 200-700 years ago found?
OutTour yes but they’re usually found in extremely cold areas and under ice. The HMS Erebus is a good example of this. It been under ice in the Northwest Passage for around 170 years but it’s hull remains
Thank you for this presentation, she is still wonderful ship.
I wish we could have had photos of it at least 40 years before we did. How impossible that would be but amazing the condition would have been
Hardly anyone talks about it, but another factor in the degradation of the wreck is our own carelessness. For example, the crow's nest on the forward mast is just one of many items on the ship that has been hit by submersibles and destroyed. If you look at the composite images showing a top-down view of the bow from the 80s and today, you will also see a large, cleared out spot on the hull where hundreds of subs have landed on the Titanic. I would love to visit the wreck someday, but the fact that so many people won't just "leave it alone" is sad. Dr. Robert Ballard is very passionate about the subject of people disturbing the Titanic.
Even if we did leave it alone, it would still be gone in just about the exact same amount of time anyways.
@@AshleyH258 It wouldn’t have been in such a poor state as it is today though. We many still have the gymnasium intact to some degree. But alas we can’t change human carelessness
Nearly 500,000 views and only 1.500 subs - this guy deserves far more ! well done on the vid and the research!
Clarification:
A few people have written about the image at 3:10. On the image at that I am referring to the large piece of twisted grey metal that is hanging over the well deck, which can clearly be seen on the mosaics at 3:14. The White triangle at 3:10 was created by original the image creator. Originally I did intend to add my own illustration, but had not got around to it. I have made a note about this in the description.
Very insightful, Great video 👍👍
Less and less Titanic, because each expedition takes part of it with them. Many smaller or larger artifacts are taken and they go to very rich collectors. They probably co-finance such expeditions. Some of the decks that disappeared within 5 years, and did not disappear for over 80 years earlier, are deliberate actions to extract valuable things from the inside. This beautiful ship began to quickly "fall apart" since 1985. Robert Ballard who discovered the Titanic believed that it should be left alone. Although he could become its owner by raising even one artifact, he did not. The people of RMS Titanic Inc. were unscrupulous. This is the whole secret of the "disappearance" of this great liner.
popmart32 : If artifacts were not removed from the wreck, they would be lost forever. Future generations will have no wreck to explore and photograph, only the artifacts. This alone is a good reason to recover as much as possible before it is all lost in 2 giant heaps of rusticles on the sea bed.
Unlike 1985, all the Titanic survivors are dead now, and even their direct descendants are nearly all dead too. The argument not to touch the wreck because it is a grave site is no longer as compelling without living survivors or close relatives to feel distress. Nobody made that argument in the case of the Mary Rose and Vasa when they were raised.
Well yeah divers will take some small things that show someones struggle or something important but they didnt just take parts of the ship 99% of the parts that have dissapeared Just dissolved
Tim Smith how can future generations enjoy such artifacts that are only “owned” by very rich collectors and locked away in safes???
@@fbnflaviusbroadcastingnetw6786 : Better than having them lost forever. Collectors die and their stuff gets auctioned off. Museums can bid for them then.
I have some coal that was bought up. Just tiny pieces and was I think 20.00 each.
Indicated at 3:12 is not a debris, but the forward auxiliary anchor. Important difference that the mast not slipped down a deck, but the upper part eroded away. Also ripped off the foecastle and splitted over...
Sometimes I wonder what will remain of her after hundreds of years. After the bactera eaten all of the iron, even the boilers and the building size engines. Gilded brass and bronze fittings, heap of sinks and lavatories, countless plate and silverware neatly buried in the soil of the bottom... And the pearl-like rows of windowpanes outlining the silhouette of what was a ship once.
3:16 - In this age of HD cameras and digital technology, why do the photos from 1987 look better than the ones from 2010??
shut up furfag
@@colter2235 nobody asked
The only limit to resolution of film cameras is the computer and processes available to develop it at the time as long as you have the original negatives.
Meanwhile digital looks good at the time but it was taken but pictures can’t be improved as technology advances.
[Тaz] 14K. not you saying the f-slur to a complete stranger online while being subscribed to a furry channel. girl for what.... 😭😭😭😭
Low Light. Even HD cameras start adding snow and other artifacting if there's insufficient light. It is so very dark that deep down. Even shining bright lights at it, you're still going to get a lot of grainy snow. Also, these cameras are behind very thick glass because of how deep you have to go and how strong the enclosure for the electronics has to be to maintain waterproofing.
1:18 - "In-fufficient information". Haha, congrats for making me chuckle! XD
Seriously though, great video. Well narrated, very informative and lots of great pictures. You've earned yourself a sub, keep up the great work! :)
I wonder what will happen to the wrecks of other famous ships like Bismarck or other WWII Battleships and Carriers? Will they last longer due to thicker hulls, armor and more robust structure?
its kind of sad we couldn't find the ship until the late 80s but we are still absolutely fortunate to have been able to observe it for as long as we have been
I love how the ocean just consumes sunken ships
I'm sure that looting has nothing to do with the damage, being that the majority of damage is around major points of entry for ROV's.
I'm also sure the crows nest just disappeared without a trace. And isn't it strange that the bathtub is not visible anymore? I'm sure if the telemotor was not so well secured it also would be "disappeared".
I also think we should be salvaging as much as we can. We should pick up everything we can on the ocean floor also. Any people trapped would have been long gone, but museums will teach people so much about this great ship.
There's remnants down there, shoes clothes etc.
I actually thought you'd have like 250K plus subscribers, man you're very underrated with a good source of your facts, loved this vid man.
So, Captain Smith was due to retire and Titanic's maiden voyage was supposed to be his last.
Well, it was.
I always thought if Captain Smith survived the disaster his entire legacy would have been shattered beyond repair, similar to that of Bruce Ismay. By perishing in the disaster, he would find his way into the history books.
@@genericguyproductions123 Do you think he shot himself? It's something I heard.
The poor fucker had no idea.
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Frank Stark I do not think either Smith or Murdoch committed suicide. It simply does not suit any of their characters and Murdoch was seen working the collapsible in the final minutes of the ship. But there is an account that an officer did commit suicide, but who exactly we will never know.
interesting video. I'd like to see an updated report. I personally think that people cling too much to the past, some even going so far as to say that we need to "preserve" the wreck, which is obviously an absurd demand. Though we need to let go of the past and let nature take its course, I think that people should explore it as much as possible and think that the perspective that it is a "tomb" and therefore shouldn't be tampered with, just unnecessarily hampers research. There's no dead bodies left in Titanic and even if there were, I don't think that sending a craft to investigate would offend them. Research should just be done in the name of science and not for souvenir hunting. My guess is that it will still be recognizable for another 50-100 years. It likely won't be "gone" for probably millenia. Traces will likely still exist even after that.
What the point of protecting the titanic if it will be disinigrated anyway
In my opinion, trying to preserve the wreck would just stall the inevitable. What is important is that we never forget the 1400 people who have lost their lives and to never forget the important lessons we learn from the tragedy. So that life is never lost so needlessly again.
@gamekid the lifeboat builder Lusitania sank after Titanic and Britannic sank after Lusitania
Because the wreck is a graveyard and an archaeological site. It makes sense to preserve it for its historical significance and loss of life, It's essentially a tomb like those in Egypt.
It's a world wonder that shouldn't be picked apart.
@@TheGrandOptimist95 The bodies have long disintegrated.
@@TheMrPeteChannel You can still make out where bodies used to be by looking at pairs of shoes in the debris field.
It still needs that standard of respect as a graveyard, but also handled cautiously as an archaeological site.
Thanks for taking the time to explain this, but a good amount of the pictures were no help at all :/
👀 me going on a titanic binge during quarantine
I mean, do we have anything better to do?
@@genericguyproductions123
in January 2021, we do have one thing better to do. FORCE 'em to give us the vaccines...
It always amazes me how fast nature and can "take back" what was once hers. Very good video! Even if I'm a couple years late to the party lol.
10:57 it’s a miniature from the wreck in the Cameron film
Just quickly reversed image searched it to double check. It's a real image from the wreck. Though what exactly that black thing in the background is beyond me.
Unfortunately I'll have to agree with roberto here. That's most definitely a model. It's dry, the lighting's off. And there's no water.
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And there's a camera mount.
The water does seem awfully clear (no floating debris). The black thing looks like a plastic garbage bag. And what's that modern-looking gizmo parked in the middle of the passageway?
John Doe In hindsight after further scrutinising the image and after reading your comments. It does actually look like a model/diorama and a very high detail one at that. Upon first glance it does look like a flash image from the wreck, but as far as I know there isn't any other similar images from the wreck. Plus I don't remember a wreck scene from the James Cameron movie taking place at that location. Could it be a unused model? But either way I will make a note of it in the description.
Here’s the scene th-cam.com/video/jzbuqbmUjg8/w-d-xo.html 1:15
It’s really sad but I’m glad the wreck been found and documented really well
I wonder what the current condition is of the back end of ship. I know it was in poor condition when it was first found, but it's rarely talked about.
I've been curious about this as well. However, I doubt we'll ever know much, as the stern section collapsed on impact, making it pretty much impossible for an ROV to penetrate.
Stern section decks c collapsed. Decks looks more pancaked now. The part where poop deck remains and engines is in the same condition as it was in 1985.
I've never seen the photos of Titanic at 11:07 and 11:14. Thanks for this great video. She was truly a beautiful ship!
11 07 is not a photo of the titanic its a photo of the andrea doria
One crazy idea that always stuck with me is building a containment area (like the New Safe Confinement in Chernobyl) around the bow section. It would then slowly replace the water with fluid that kills the iron-eating bacteria until it matches the outside pressure. Then the wreck could be preserved. It would be 1,000,000 times easier, safer, and less costly than raising it. Obviously this is a bit insane, but is still interesting to think about.
pointless though
@@AverageAlien Not necessarily. This may be an avenue of research to be pursued for future ventures.
Very interesting video. Well done, sir.
we need an actual new expedition with hd footage!!
This was worth the watch...good job!
It's actually been estimated that explorers and looters have done more damage to the ship in 30 years than her actual sinking and subsequent 100 years on the ocean floor has ever done.
The crow's nest was heavily damaged by looters, who carelessly ripped the bell from the mast and James Cameron's numerous dives to the wreck have been blamed for causing the greatest amount of damage to the ship since it hit the ocean floor.
Henry Ford Jesus Christ, do you just copy and paste your lies everywhere?
Paul Heenan Looters? It was taken off and put in a museum
Well put together piece!
I have read that the Titanic will be completely gone 200 years after her sinking. 2112. I wonder where they got their estimation?
Wayne Hampson It will probably be gone within 20 years
Wayne Hampson Simple. Amount of steel in the ship (minus) amount of rusticles (times) how fast steel is consumed by rusticles = a calculated number of years. Also they have been able to study how much has already withered away since they first visited the wreck in 1985. She may still be there in 2112 but just as a iron deposit on the bottom of the sea which certainly won't look like a ship but a rusty heap of scrap metal. So traces of her will still be there but you won't call that a ship no more than you'll call a car which has gone through a giant shredder a car (also just pieces of scrap metal).
@@Unus_Annus_ The ship superstructure yes. It will collapse into itself and be mangled. But those remains will still be visible for quite a while yet.
TheIronDuke W. I mean as a recognizable ship, not a pile of twisted metal sediment
Here in Niagara Falls we have a well-known old barge/scow that's been stranded mid-river just above the actual Falls since 1918 - just six years after Titanic sank. Every year the scow continued to deteriorate much like the Titanic by water and ice erosion. Now there's very little left of the iconic barge - and every time I drive by the area it makes me think of the eventual fate of the Titanic wreckage. Soon it'll just be a memory and future generations will only have photos and video of the wreckage to study and analyze.
Wow, very interesting. Sad but interesting. Its one thing for it to fall apart, or deteriorate on its own, that is natural but humans have abused the ship, speeding up its demise. It'll be REALLY interesting to see what she looks like in another decade, because she seems to be deteriorating fast and fast each year.
Subscribed. Hope to see more great content like this from u in the future
Forcastle I’ve always heard pronounced “FOAKSUL” here across the pond in the US.
Foc'sle
We always see the Bow of the Titanic. Rarely have I ever seen the wreck of the stern
Also another way it crashed is is why it’s collapsing as well because it split in half and this caused it to like deteriorate
Gellert Grindelwald Not exactly. It would most likely deteriorate just the same, albeit less damage to the stern. Also what has caused deterioration are iron-eating organisms, crushing ocean depths, and exposure to saltwater
Like... wow!🤡
It'd be so great to actually go down and see it before it's gone. Everything about it is truly fascinating.
You can go down and see it if you have $125,000 that's what they're charging to take you down there
@@mikekeeler6362 How many days before the Titan implosion did you make this comment?
I honestly wish people would salvage more artifacts so that we can further study and share the history before it is all gone.
That's why they need to explore the wreckage now before she is gone forever. There are many rooms that have not been explored yet. Some of them have artifacts that need to be brought up to the surface. There are many pieces of artwork inside her that needs to be found and brought up.