Husqvarna 572XP (winning) vs Stihl ms500i R
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 เม.ย. 2021
- Filmed in late November or early December, 2020.
As mentioned, same B&C as last time. It was not tooooo long after the initial run with these two where they were both stock.
The 572 came around nicely. I was well pleased. With any luck so Will the owner.
Also as mentioned, Insane-O SS level of zippkit was "applied" the 572xp in the Saw Shop MakeOver operation.
I did make note of the 500i getting the short end of the stick with the knots. From what I've seen in here, it might cost a second or so. The good deal is that the 572 picked up enough time to "out maneuver" a saw with 1.1 more hp.
Timed runs:
Stock 500i @13,380 went 15.77 down and 14.65 up.
Insane-O SS 572 @ 13,390 went 12.57 down and, me leaning on it 13.23 up.
I'm still doing custom saw modifications. I may or may not be available "soonly". Please shoot me an email if you are interested. Also, I'm can be a week or more behind on answering.
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Hello.
In the continuing saga of R&D, here we see the 572 in zipped form as it came around from the Saw Shop MakerOver nicely. I was happy with the result. The description area had the timed runs, down the one hundredths of a second.
Thanks for watching.
Master, is it possible to use a 1:33 mixture? Will this cause more carbon deposits?
Sensei948 hi.
I don't consider myself a master, but thanks.
Depends upon the oil. Or possibly the components in the additive package.
Specifically, the cleaner portion.
The base stock is a consideration because they range in quality quite a bit. This translates to the class 4 & 5 oils are a much higher quality and burn more clean as a general rule.
Needle adjustment will also be a factor.
Running really lean on the high speed needle, the operator better thinking about compensation via an increased concentration on oil to fuel ratio.
A lot of idling and/or ½ throttle use will see more build up.
Whether or not the air cleaner is kept clean to fairly clean will have a lesser affect, but some bearing on the process.
Clear as Mudd this one is. Sorry I couldn't be more succinct.
Thanks for watching.
@@hotsaws101 and what kind of mix do you use 1:40?
@@Sensei948 I blend my own.
Skills sir. You have em. Always love all the technical information. Thumbs up every time.
Thanks for doing this video, it's really helpful when shopping for a new felling saw. very informative commentary, nice work!
Trevor hi.
Stock 5ooi vs zipped 572.
If you are going to have the 572xp modded it will be, depending upon the tuner,, comparable to what is seen here.
Thanks for watching.
Love the videos always learning new stuff watching you
My 572 continues to surprise me. I absolutely love that saw
Another good video Jack, thanks
You really know your stuff in the woods and out !
Your mods are well named - that 572 really flies. Never mind about the big bad wolf huffing and puffing. The Husky is pounding on the door and going right on through.
Husky Hot Rod getting it done. Each time I fire up my saw that Jack has masterfully touched, I smile wide.
Nice one as a stihl fan I hate to see it lose but regardless I could watch your saws cut all day. Good one have a great day jack.
The 572 is modified.
@@Bournefort and not only that, its about 250lbs heavier lol
572 for the win, Can’t wait till husky let’s the big boys come out an play
Would LOVE a 595!
yeah the 90cc would love to get my hands on
Or a 5120
Thank you Jack for sharing your information
I was a little confused 🤷♂️ about all the different
Brands of oils out there STIHL HP Ultra and
Husqvarna have been getting bad reviews.
I will give the Bel-Ray H1-R a go run it at 50:1
Thanks for your info research enjoy watching all
Video’s
Tony hi.
The Ultra is just a little better than than the Husky synthetic. And, the Husky oil is crapp.
The H1-R is in the top tier, of the 4 choices I'd consider.
Thanks for watching.
Notice that you blanked off the compression release valve ? ,,I own both ,,free flowed the muffler on the husky and it was game on .. :-) .. 572 was pulling much better there ,, what muffler mods please ?
Awesome video
Both are really nice saws...
572 sounds great
People really underestimate the potential of the 572xp. I pack it up into big trees to chunk down or for felling. Keep it wrapped up and that saw eats!
T M hi.
Well,,,, some people maybe....
Thanks for watching.
That 572 carries the mail!
What are your thoughts on muffler mods? A lot of guys like the bark boxes, I have one for the 500i but not sure if there's any gains or not really. Just sounds like it has more power...
Berts Garage - An important part of the equation when doing the rest of the process.
I had something similar on my 462 three years ago. Took it off. Exhaust blowing back in your face is not a fun operation.
No thanks...
Thanks for watching.
I like watching all your reviews and videos testing out different saws.
I like STIHL and Husqvarna in certain models there’s something I don’t understand about the
500i is the air filter set up is rubbish you spend
you’re hard earned money and still get wood chip
Particles get past your air filter and oiler on bar & chain is lacking.
As for the 572 & old school 395 it’s best air filter set up I have seen I would pick the 572xp over the 500i.
Good job 👍 on 572 it sounds great rips hard.
I’m running a stock 572 xp love the saw using
Maxima Formula K2 I run it at 40:1 ratio.
What ratio would you recommend if you don’t mind me asking?
Tony hi.
YEY!
It's the same on all the pro saws. Thank goodness for the Maxy's.
You have to lower the roll pin stop in the bottom of the oiler housing (so it is level with the oiler housing) to get the full rotation - max oiling capabilities - of the control bolt in a lot of the newer Stihl saws.
You would be far better off using the H1-R from Bel-Ray.
I run ~ 48/50:1 personally. I don't "recommend". At times I suggest a different oil and tell you what concentration I blend.
K2 was developed (read reformulated ~ '03/04) to work optimally in water cooled, race, motocross bikes. DeCoster requested certain specs form 4 or 5 of the oil manufactures from what I've been told. the K2 was the closest in the onset. Maxima "reformulated" the K2 accordingly. So, even though Carmichael was "showing" other oil companies stickers on his 250mx ride, the oil was the K2.
No testing on 2-cycle saw engines was performed in the testing phases for the reformulated K2, or 1st gen, according to the tech at Maxima. Whereas, there was testing of the H1-R on 2-cycle chainsaws according to the tech personnel at Bel-Ray.
But,,, I digress...
I tried the K2 in the early '00s before the reformulation. I revisited it again ~ '15/16. It is better than some of the other choices but, for a saw application - especially when talking about a high tolerance & hot running smog saw - the H1-R is a far superior option. The Road Race Motul, and possibly the Off Highway Motul are also better choices than the K2 but not necessarily better than the H1-R. I would also use the HP2 from Honda before running the K2.
From seeing the internals of a fair number of saws looked at in a lot of years using a majority of the choices out there now, all the while having used most of the upper choices personally in my saw/s, the four of the above mentioned options for over the counter purchase are the only ones I would use.
Best of luck.
Thanks for watching.
Which one is better and why ? I don't get it ...
Nice vid. Can you post what your levels of of mods are?
De unde pot cumpăra un set de ghera și un mâner ca al tău la huspvarna 572xp
Excellent video dosen't surprise me that 572 is a great saw' amazed that the Stahl is lighter.....haven't run a 500i yet l hear there a good saw too. Shoe
Robert, I’m a husky guy and I ran the 500. With out a doubt it’s good right out of the box, light, snappy, and ready to go. But really sucks the gas! Is way too expensive for something you can smash on the stump! Husqvarna is going to have to step it up! Power to weight ratio that is. I’ll take a modified husky any day!
@@kurtdawkins253 Great information thank you.
We’re did the larger chain brake cover come from ? 572 did very well being down in power 1.1 very nice work jack thanks for sharing
Elkhunter2008 hi.
It's the factory, oem fitment clutch cover that comes on the West Coasty saws standard.
They can be purchased separately if desired.
Thanks for watching.
*where
Good afternoon. How to put a Stihl tire on a Husqvarna saw? Isn't there some kind of adapter there? Thanks
Hello.
Think this is what you are looking for th-cam.com/video/D_OjJatR3KA/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for watching.
where did you get the dual felling spikes for the Husky?
Down in the comments Nick Corzine asks the same question and gets a reply from Hotsaws101.
That wire for you tach, does it clamp in somehow or you just fish it through the hole and call it done?
It just needs to contact the saw. Preferably around the cylinder head area. But as you seen with the husky,it was just sitting on top of the cowling
Being a stihl guy, the Husqvarna's are just nicer ergonomically. Nice to see someone squeeze hp out of a saw. Just have to wonder how long it will last.
Mark hi.
I'm thankful they redesigned the pistol grips from what was seen on the saws from the '70s, '80s, '90s, and early '00s myself.
Barring a weird mechanical failure, a long time. This of course is provided the operator is :
A) Using a top tier mix oil.
a) the are only a few in that category imho.
B) Taking care of maintenance as they are supposed to be.
a) Air filters are a given.
b) Plugs in zipped saw only last ~ 30 hours before the
positive side of the electrode starts to decay and
deform.
C) Has chains the will keep the engine rpms under control.
a) Teeth sharp, but sharp for the wood species/density
b) Stops/raker/riders/depth gauges set to the right height
so the chain feeds but at the same time regulates
engine speed.
D) Using a decent fuel with a minimum 98/100 octane is
highly recommended.
a) Draining the fuel during prolonged periods of sitting is
a given here.
Thanks for watching.
Power Husk 💪👊
Where did you get those dogs for the 572?
Nick hi. Stock, oem fitment spikes on the "Westy" saws. Thanks for watching.
Το 500i είναι 80cc το 572 είναι 70cc αυτό σημαίνει ότι το husqvarna είναι πολύ δυνατό πριόνι κ η stihl πρέπει να αναθεώρηση πολλά...
572xp a motosserra mais avançada do mundo
Are you running 7tooth drive sprockets on both saws?
russellknight26 hi. It would not be a fair test if one saw has a different tooth count on the rim sprocket. It's like the saw-off comparisons on YT where the operator/s is/are using two different chains. No Bueno.
So yes, same number of 7 on both.
Thanks for watching.
Do you lower the exhaust or raise it on the 572 form stock form?
@@jonathanhensley8685 I change what needs to be different in order for the saws to run like they are capable of.
What I do, or don't do, is kind of like that Los Vegas trip...
Thanks for watching.
i like 572xp💪
How do I get my 572xp to you to get it running like this 😅😮
Matthew hi. Send to the guy that built this one would be my suggestion. Thanks for watching.
Hands down I love the 572xpw way more than the 500i I had a 500i sold it and got another 572xpw
Hi Jack. Any ideas why the 500 is faster up and the 572 is faster down than up?
I noticed that to.
Torque
Gentlemen hello. I "wood" suggest checking the description for the results. The 572 was faster. Thanks for watching.
Hi Jack yep the 572 definitely won. I was just asking why you think the 500 is faster cutting up versus down? And the 572 is faster cutting down than up?
My math was way off. Good thing i can read!🤣
I watch to many chainsaw videos. However it is raining again in nwest Wisconsin so here I am. To muddy to go logging. It seems the 572 husky takes very well to porting compared to others. Meaning that you gain more torque/power. Is that skewed thinking? On the edge of getting mine ported.
Hi Austin, that’s what I found, on my 395s,372s, and 385s. In my humble opinion I wouldn’t own a “stalker saw”, especially if your trying to make money with it, in big trees! Make sure you lock tight everything!! If you don’t it falls apart quickly.
@@kurtdawkins253 How do they do for durability? I guess thats where my resistance comes from.My first 372 lasted almost 20 years before a forwarder ran over it. Looking at porting my 572 and 390.
I think 372 is one of the best saws made. My mindset was if I had a two or three-year Span of hard use, the saw paid for itself.I was a Bushler by trade, working by board feet. I have to be honest I didn’t fall in love with my saws. My main thing was I was after performance! Even though the Husqvarna‘s have been a pound heavier with just about every model in the competition, The performance you get from them is outstanding! And very smooooth and snappy! But $1400.00 for a saw was pricey in 2003. My wife will tell you that. Lol
A ported 572 turns them into an animal
@@jamiedalluge9472 once you use a very good modified saw, ITS OVER! you won’t want to touch a “ stalker” again! The difference is like driving a Ferrari, and then driving your minivan!
I'd like to see a well broken in 7310 against a 372 non xtorq. My 372 slightly outcut one but nobody believes me lol
Jamie hi.
I believe you, lol.
Thanks for watching.
Sent you an email about a 288xp couple days ago
Husky 585 and 590 coming soon
Yep. 592 xpg for me.
Have a stihl 462 I would like you to do
H H hi.
Contact through email is the best way to start the process.
Thanks for watching.
Well the 500i is skinnier, shorter both vertically and horizontally. The powerhead weight of the the 500 is 13.9 vs 14.5 for the husky.. that.6 grows to 1.1 lbs according to my man in the video.. theres no arguing the husky was faster. But the husky has been modded. Its a screamin demon... When yall figure out how to make the 500i scream, its gonna take down everything in its class.. im sorry.. but after owning both saws... After about the 5th tsnk of fuel, the 500i really woke up from what was already a very light nap and out cut my husky by 2.9 seconds.. was my test flawed, well duh.. but i made every effort to make it fair.. and i didnt need to refer to my partner to know my husqvarna had just been smoked.i swear the 500 just continues to get stronger. It seems to like being run hard and beat up . And after slinging both all day, theres NO CONTEST. The small size and light weight of the 500 makes YOU want to use IT. wheny warranty runs out. Im gonna buy a new one and use this one to experiment. Not sure if the electronics on it will nullify a port job or not. Im gonna custom fab a 2 chamber " muffler" as well.. not sure how the brain of the saw will react.. but I GUARANTEE YOU im gonna find out.
John hi. I weigh the saws on my hand me down bathroom scales for comparison, at the time of the saw-offs. I state that they are not "Weights & Measures" accurate. They are relative to that time though.
Also, it is a known quantity by those that follow the process that the weighs are very seldom completely accurate in the printed literature.
Husqvarna saws are one of the worst as well.
Additionally, I'm weighing full wrap version saws. Not the ½ wrap model.
I made no bones about the fact that the 572 was modded. This is the second pitting of these two saws. You have to watch the 1st saw-off session where they are both in stock form to get a comparison between how the 572 came alive after the zippkit was installed - the sole purpose of this video.
Regarding the "When yall figure out how to make the 500i scream, its gonna take down everything in its class.." - there are videos on this channel showing the 500i in demon mode. My Torque Monster 461 takes it. My 461 also burns EXPNENETIALLY less fuel doing so.
This video -
th-cam.com/video/6eFaGLm5xWE/w-d-xo.html
shows an "upgraded" 6421 Makita taking a 500i. Both were taken to the limit for what I do. They weigh the same for all intents & purposes.
Don't get me wrong, the 500i does well. But, it, like all other saws, has flaws. For a busheler, chasing the fuel can does not a good volume day make. Well imho anyway.
Thanks for watching.
Like he said, stock vs. stock, the 500i wins. Anything else is irrelevant.
Stihl chainsaw is plastic chainsaw
I'm a husky/jonsered guy. I was going to buy a 572 until a work mate bought one he said it's a piece of shit. Hard to start and just had a few problems here and there. I'm contemplating getting a 500i, I've heard alot of good things about them.
Iv currently got a 2186 that's 15years old
I have 3 572s and they run great!
I ended up buying a 592xp and it starts fine. My buddy must've got a dud
500i is a much better saw used both of them it’s not close.
STIHL is No1
Boo!!
MS is the Martha Stewart edition! LOL
In price? They all make winners and losers.
Dream on bud .
500i-💩
Need to be bucking , hickory , beech , locust , Osage orange , something with some substance, that really tells the story , love my 592, but it's a gas hog .
Or,,, you can throw a long bar on and get about the same result. In the end, it's all about how the chain is set up. I mean, since a 16" b & c sucks up ½ a hp. Then extrapolating, a 32" b & c gobbles up somewhere around 1 hp.
Thanks for watching.
The turn off to the stihl , gas and oil cap , no one likes them .
Well,,, except for the engineering team that came up with it. They LOVE the design. Extremely proud would be apt.
But, they don't actually use saws all day, everyday, year in & year out to experience the shortcomings...
Thanks for watching.