This is The WORST Repair on The Best Toyota V8! And It's Worse On This Car
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ต.ค. 2023
- This particular repair is probably one of the Worst repair jobs on the best Toyota V8 the UZ series engine especially on trucks.
The common issue is an exhaust manifold crack that develops from small cracks due to the strange design on these exhaust manifolds.
And what makes it worse is the previous exhaust repairs on this particular sequoia that we're working on making the exhaust one piece and making this already tough job even harder.
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As a consumer ... I had to take a chill pill just realizing what you have to go through. God Bless You.
The detailed explanation of design failures like this is invaluable to us Toyota owners and loyal Toyota fans. Thank you for doing this, it is very much appreciated.
I solved this exact problem with my 2004 V8 4Runner. The only way to permanently deal with this is to have Doug Thorley stainless headers installed. The original manifold is too thin. I paid 3k to have mine replaced and it cracked again in months. Then I went to a better exhaust guy and he installed the Thorley headers. He cut the cat converters off the original one-piece manifold/cat converter part, and mated them to the new headers with a ratchet coil system. No more broken headers. Truck sounds better, too. When the cats go bad I just need to have the manifold part cut off the new cats and they’ll mate to my headers with no need to disassemble anything under the truck. Problem solved. Been working great for two years.
Thanks for sharing. I had a leaking driver's side manifold on my 00 Landcruiser with 2UZ at 150k miles. Purchased all the OEM parts for both sides and removed 4 bolts from the driver's side using all sorts of universals and swivels. Decided to put the 4 bolts back and take it to Toyota dealer to complete the job due to time restraints. They did the job, and the steering wheel came back crooked as the steering shaft was removed and probably installed one notch off. I tackled the passenger side myself about 10k miles later in my garage without a lift as that side started leaking. Not an easy job and would not want to do it again. Other than that, this engine is extremely reliable. I have 320k on it now.
That 1.25 labor rate must be based on the engine on a stand and not installed in anything
As a customer, muffler shops must be told to save flanges - most don't want to spend the time wrenching, and will regularly just reach for the welder after a little sawzall action. It's up to you, and make the demand up front - bring extra gaskets or donuts with you if you like: the part is less than their labor running down parts from wherever [plus their lost lift time for another job].
Seeing that setup, there is a VERY easy solution. Cut the pipe and put a band clamp on it going back together.
Muffler shop doesn't give a crap about your flanges. Will probably break/strip out bolts upon removal on rust-bucket car, and if not, use impact to reassemble flange resulting in subsequent flange gasket leak. Then customer comes back and bitches about leak.
I am the original owner of a 2004 4Runner with a 4.7 V-8. It has 185 K miles and no problems whatsoever. It still drives great, with no rattles. It has the original starter, alternator-everything. All I have ever done is replace the timing belt (twice) tires and brakes. Of course, I have maintained it perfectly and have always used full synthetic oil. No rust as I live in Western Oregon. Perfect rig, I will keep it until I die!
I have 03 with 185k as well the ticking noise started when cold and I raplaced them with Manzo headers.Also I have to replace Radiator,ABS PUMP timing belt brakes.power steering lines .rear main seal
You are the best car guy on the net! Very good at commentary and your knowledge is fantastic. A man can only be this great by having been in the trenches doing the actual job. I am a Toyota guy and I appreciate the fantastic episodes you present!
Same here, Western Oregon too. 240k on my 2006 Tundra. No rust and virtually zero problems. Did have issues with the AIS pump at 200k, bypassed it with a Hewitt Tech kit. No more issues.
Thank you for the walk around Ahmed. I learned some valuable tips from this video.
Thanks for sharing all your thoughts working on cars 😎👍
Great content, thanks for the thorough explanation. As a 2003 Sequoia owner, I really appreciate this!
Love your Toyota Knowledge Buddy! Hey from Canada
Thanks Ahmed for this excellent video and your detailed R&R explanation. Man I sure hope the exhaust manifolds on my 2006 LS430's 3UZ-FE don't share the same engineering design-- YIKES! 😮
Nice thorough video, Ahmed!!
Great content. Keep up the good work.
I like how this video shows the problems mechanics face that customers dont know about
Just looking at it I can already tell that this car is NOT MAINTENANCE FRIENDLY WHATSOEVER. Whenever I see vehicles like this, I just walk away versus buying one.
Everything is so tight in place.
Thanks for this video.
I've had broken studs on Ford F350 V10's in the past. Splash shield came out but like you said, the shock tower was in the way and yes, that's where the broken studs were. Heat was a big help but you have to be cautious with aluminum heads.
Thank you AMD for the detail explanation.
Thanks for these great videos! Hoping for another update on the 600,000 mile Lexus soon!
Good advice for life in general: Tackle the tough stuff first.
Great episode as always! I would love to see AMD's perspective on the 1G Tundra & Sequoia poor braking issues. Not to mention the antique rear drums.
My 05 tundra SR5 DC has never stopped strong or consistent. The dealers and Indy shops can't find an issue but I read the forums and there are many threads about it.
AMD, If anyone can overcome a mechanical challenge like this it is you. 😁 When a tough job like this rolls into the shop just remember, you have 848,000 people cheering you on from the cheap seats! 👏👏👏👏The rusty state of this Sequoia makes me hope for the day rustproofing will arrive in Chicagoland. 🤞🤞🤞I see 6:35 a first generation Matrix in the background so I hope we will get a full video on this unsung hero of the Toyota lineup. The Matrix serves as a glorious reminder of the days when Toyota understood what words like 'space efficiency' and 'headroom' meant. It was also the last Toyota with the highly useful fold-forward front passenger seat.🤩
Many blessings to you and your family, The Lord Jesús Bless you greatly 🙏🙏🙏🙏from Yorktown Texas 🇨🇱🇺🇸🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷, Thank you your videos 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷
excellent explanation and strategy!
My 2007 Sequoia 4WD has 250K+ on it now, and thankfully hasn't had this issue yet...appreciate the informative video! 🙌
Great video. The dealer just replaced left and right manifold on my 2023 GX with just 2K miles.
After watching pretty much every one of your videos, I can say with absolute certainty that I LOVE being a mechanic in the South. Rust friggin sucks!!!!
By the amount of cars you have in your shop, it really looks like business has been good! Congratulations, you deserve it. I am a 72 yr.old female who has always enjoyed cars. My husband and I have been Toyota owners for many years. I find your videos interesting. Thank you for stretching my mind😊
I really like the way you show the problem with the bearing and because of sound I find that me from Bering was bad and I when to the mechanics to fix it thank you
Excellent video! Thank you!
Awesome video! I had to explain this repair to a customer.
21 years ago I had the leaking factory manifolds on my 2002 Tundra 4.7L replaced with JBA short tube headers, the JBAs are bolt on replacements that connect to the factory exhaust pipes. I have put 160,000 miles on them, and I enjoy the slight boost in horse power and torque.
I just love watching your vehicle inspections. It's like a virtual treasure hunt.
Very informative. I have a 2002 LX470 with 236,000 miles well-maintained and no symptoms yet; however, I will be expecting it to happen. At least, now I know what to watch out for and the replacement job, not a DIY as you mentioned. Thank you so much.
I guess that is when you call in sick at the dealership! LOL!! Great video!
my sequoia has had this tick for probably 50k miles. trying really hard to not replace it due to the expense. until it fails inspection, gonna let it ride.
Thank you again for the detailed explanation of this failure and for sharing the complications mechanics face during repair. I would really appreciate it if, in the following videos you kindly advise some preventive measures for rust prevention on the exhaust manifold (I have seen you undercoat your Lexus's underbody for corrosion prevention but am not sure if the same undercoating works on high temp exhaust manifold).
Had my whole exhaust system replaced on my 08 4Runner and it was like $7K and took them 2 weeks 😬
1st gen Sequoia is arguably one of most beautiful suvs historically ever manufactured. This issue along with ball joints and frame rust and is about the only extrodonary issues so its a love hate relationship with high mileage owners
Well said... some jobs just wanna make you throw your tools and become a gardener...
Thanks as always from Japan, where fortunately rust is rare except on the very oldest vehicles.
I had this done on my '02 Sequoia a few months ago. I know that pre-soaking crusty old nuts is key for them cooperating, so I bribed my mechanic with a package of Gatorade and a box of cookies.
It’s worth mentioning that the exhaust manifold itself is also very expensive since it includes an integrated catalyst. Not sure why this sequoia didn’t have it but my 2008 4Runner did.
Sequoias and older tundras don’t have cats on them. 4runner V8 and GX470 do have it
California emissions? "50 states" sticker?
Great video. Make more Toyota truck and Toyota V8 videos like this please!
I just replaced my exhaust manifold on my boat that is in salt water. I feel your pain. Got it done. 👍👍
Great video. Very informative. I did hear a clinking sound when reved during the final start up video. Is that a leak from the passenger side or just lifter noises with the V8?
Much respect to all caring mechanics out there! You are all a blessing!!! Thanks for a great video ❤
Finally, a video that applies to Ram owners. This is such a common problem on Rams with Hemis. I unfortunately just discovered the ticking noise (no, it's not a Hemi tick) on mine for the first time at 72,000 miles. Going to try and get the extended warranty to cover it. Crossing my fingers because I know how sleazy those extended warranties can be.
I have a 2014 1500 and was thinking the same thing....
@@sgnt9337 Bummer. I haven't even looked into how easy they are to repair yet. I'm hoping it's DIY friendly if the dealer doesn't want to do it.
My father took his off and had them milled level . They where warped . A new set will warp and its best to use the heat cycled set unless you have corrosion.
@@steventenney8797 How easy are they to get off?
the exhaust manifold isnt too hard of a DIY on the ram if you are used to making your own repairs and have a free afternoon. It might be worth getting a local shop to put on an aftermarket set that wont have the issue as easily if you rather not do it yourself. if you can live with it you can just leave it until it get bad or doesnt stop after a minute or two. As for the warranties, I believe you need the max powertrain warranty to cover this but as old as the 5.7 hemi is there are tons of videos on how to do it, just dont get in too deep over your head since it definitely isnt a beginner repair. IMO its a much better investment to get a warranty that covers electrical stuff since the powertrain pretty solid on those trucks so long as you do proper maintenance. the electrical issues as they age can be nonexistent or a nightmare though.
Always good stuff.
Love your channel ! Wish I was in IL to go to your shop. Feel Toyota is not the same we have had them since 73. Can you recommend a repair shop in west Atlanta suburbs?
One day? Terrible Try doing manifolds on a Ford V10 where every single bolt breaks off flush or below flush with the head. Took two weeks. I still have nightmares.
My favorite YT Toyota mechanic is super useful 😎
That blue matrix on the back ground looks beautiful.
I remember the first Gen IS F had this manifold problem.
Is Amd fixing Scotty's blue Toyota in the background? I can see Scotty's title on a video, I'm retiring and The Car Care Nut is fixing my Toyota's! 😄
Dear AMD, greerings from PA. 3 years ago we bought our 2005 Sequoia Limited which has been driven 190K mi.After some repairs caused by negligence, this is the most reliable car so far I own/owned (the oldest current car is our 1986 Camry GLi liftback) in Europe.
Our LS 430 about 10 years in possesion has caused more trouble with now 143K mi., the notorious Y pipe, britle hoses and bank1 getting moist below valve cover. Radiator had a microscopic leak, as well.
Would it help to remove the inner fender liner? Just a thought. As you know on many cars you need to remove the cowl to get to anything. GREAT content as always!
The fender liner is not in the way. The strut tower in the frame is what makes this difficult
It's definitely a PITA, but I have done about 8 sets of header swaps on the 4.7l one was a Sequoia and it was about an hour longer a side. The fun ones are the full length headers in a 4wd tundra lol.
I had an 01 and other than the trans going out....common issue as well, it served me well.
i did this job with my father on a 2001 Tundra with the 4.7L that i used to own. took us 3 days and idk how many trips to the toyota dealership parts counter to get done. its was torture.
When I worked at a Chevrolet dealership and a dodge dealership,back in the day . I never made flat rate bonuses and the vehicle weren’t as complicated as today
*Actually, you are informing us you placed "doing it right" above "beating the book". Respect!*
@@blackrifle6736 👍🏻
Looks like Toyota has repeated their bad habits. I have this exact same problem with my Toyota all-wheel drive Corolla. The difference is that I can change the manifold myself.
I bet you soaked the nuts in brake fluid! Brilliant tip from you!!
Doug thorley stainless headers. Fixes this bonehead design 👍🏻 Glad my 2004 4runner doesn’t have that stupid secondary air injection nightmare….
I’ll say it again, the reason why I love this channel is because Ahmed is honest, and will call out Toyota when their products are trash. Once again this isn’t like the other person whose name rhymes with motty, where all he does is talk about how every Toyota is the best.
You must've missed the recent Scotty video where he told someone to buy a Mazda over a Toyota because of the asinine decision by Toyota to put turbo 4 cylinders in everything. I own two Toyota products, a 2011 Venza V6, and a 2013 RX 350. I love them, but I will not buy another Toyota until they get rid of the turbo crap. I'd buy a V6 Mazda over a Toyota, too.
I am a Scotty fan, in his defense he has a huge subscriber base. I believe he has more views than all leading auto manufacturers combined. In my opinion he is trying his best to spread the word that your best bet is to buy Toyota or a Honda product. Remember most people you have to hit over the head a dozen times before they listen…he’s just doing his part.
@@MegaSlowe and what is said is completely wrong. Go match some of Ahmed previous videos about turbo charged engines. He will tell you that turbo charges on an economy car make sense, they are not trying to make crazy about of power. But a turbo charged car on an suv is not a good idea dude to the amount of power and stress the engine go through especially an inline 4. So once Scotty is horse crap. Turbo chargers can last a very long time if the application is right now and people keep up with their maintenance. Heck I have a 2010 Nissan GTR that have twin turbos and with about 100k miles and the engine and turbos are still going strong because I keep up with my maintenance and don’t overkill the car. Wonder what Scotty has to say about that
I quit watching SK years ago. I can't stand his "you're stupid if..." nonsense. He's become a total clown.
@@dlg5485 *Best decision. Having hit the three black dots next to his appearances on right side of page to blank that narcissistic, whining clown; life is good. Cheers!*
I work as a mechanic daily. AMD, I agree some jobs it's best to take "book time" and throw it in the trash. Just the times quoted are too short for what the job is sometimes, it's not too often that happens but it does.
TH-cam always make auto repair look so easy its not always lol
It looks like Toyota got some advice from Ford when figuring out where locate the manifold goes. This reminds me of the Ford 5.4L 3v engines where the bolts break.
Thanks AMD.
Love your channel, they have helped me to no end. I have a question. I own, from new a 2011 Venza 2.7 AWD. I have never changed the transmission fluid. The vehicle now has 170,000kms on it. is it too late to change it? I noticed that it shifts a little to often. Like on a slight hill and drops into the lower gear. Should i risk messing with it at this point? Al.
I know how you feel working on 05-08 Toyotas in North East NY with the rust. I watch YT videos of rust free repairs. Its frustrating to get through a job unscathed. Thats a tough job.
Sorry I got distracted in the beginning by the amount of uniforms you own in the background 😂
WOW! WHAT A PAIN!
My 2007 Tundra 5.7 3UR is starting this. Going to leave it!
Did both sides on our 02 sequoia, what a nightmare it was
I love my UZ in my 4runner. I have the manifold leak, it's on the one of these days list.
Good to know this is a potential problem. Thanks
My favorite comment from the muffler shop welder was "once it's welded on it ain't my f***ing problem"
I had to remove the left side engine mount on my 06 Tundra to get it out. Ended up replacing the stock manifolds with some JBA headers.
*Smart move. Not cheap but worth every cent spent. Cheers!*
Replaced pair in lx470 was a PITA. But DIY. Now I need to do another:(
Dang. Now I've got to go check out my 23 4runner.
Hope it is easier to do than that
We've owned two 4.7 V8, and I totally agree with you... 😅
speaking about tough jobs. can you give any advise on replacing the lower oil pan seal on a 3.4L 1998 Tacoma 4x4? thanks for the great videos Amd
I just had this done on my 07 4 runner to pass e check..so far so good...they charged me 10 hours...
Yikes that does look like a nightmare job!!!!!
A nightmare job for AMD makes a dream subject for a video. 😉
I feel you’re pain had to do long tube headers on an 08 tundra almost two full day job
I sense much joy in the shop today.
I have 03 with 185k as well the ticking noise started when cold and I raplaced them with Manzo headers.Also I have to replace Radiator,ABS PUMP timing belt brakes.power steering lines .rear main seal 😅
That’s VVTi version of the 2UZ-FE … subsequently it also has the air injection system is part of the missions control underneath the intake manifold to warm up the catalytic converters quicker upon cold start. That goofy header is designed to be incorporated with this air injection system. I only know of one aftermarket manufacturer, who makes a header for that, but it requires the air injection system to be bypassed. I know Doug Thorley just started making headers for the VVT motor in the land cruiser and I’m pretty sure that they would make one for the Sequoia. Regardless, this job is a nightmare and at least in the land cruisers it was only the 98 through 2001 models that had the ticking exhaust manifolds. My 06 is still quiet fortunately but when it goes I’m gonna delete that air induction system and put some block plates on the Doug Thorley headers for those extra holes. I love your channel man. So much good info on here.
Exhaust manifolds warp, very common on most V8's... Toyota isn't the only automobile MFG with this problem.
Regardless of the exhaust manifold design...
I've gotta do at least one exhaust manifold on my 5.7 Tundra. Been dreading it. It seems easy in theory but theres like no room I can't even see where its leaking from. And the part is like $600+...
*Swain Tech coated, JBA short tube headers might be your answer and Toyota Tundra Forums are your friends. Cheers!*
Would love to see a starter replacement on a 2003 Tundra V8..
Gonna stick to oil changes 😵
You could ask customers to call in a week before the booking so you can apply release agent to all the necessary fasteners. Might make life a little easier.
If they park the car and don’t run it, it can work. Problem is it will start smoking shortly after starting it because of the heat
Wow unbelievable !!!
My 03' V8 4runner luckily the Exhaust Manifold still good. No leaks (Cali Car) 😅
Great video they're AMD I jlove How you showed the difficulty to do these exhaust manifold's and Toyota is only paying 1.2 hours to do the driver's side it should be more like 12 hours to do the driver's side .
That would break my heart living in a rust belt
Great channel
Replacing the starter in the V of the engine is a fun time too.
A franchise muffler shop getting the valued customer back on the road as soon as possible! While-u-wait!
Had a shop try and fully weld a custom exhaust on a car in the past. I told the guy to use all the flanges that I supplied - along with the pipes, the cat, and muffler. He couldn't see why I was concerned about not using flanges to assemble the exhaust in sections; the downpipe, the cat, and the cat-back.
99ford f350 5.4 l I spent 3 days doing manifolds...broken bolts.. welding nuts on....no drilling for me. All new stainless studs and nuts..I feel ya