I don't think rugby leadership in this country have the intelligence or sensitivity to appreciate just how stupid and inappropriate TJ's little racist demonstration was.
Now the All Blacks powers at the top should hand out some hefty fines for TJ, the coach and maybe add suspension for some of them too. That way this never happens again. TJs act was way out of line!!!
I am one of those old guys. If the ABs want to endorse this political garbage then i can exercise my democratic right to switch them off. Entertainers are no more informed than Bill the barber - in fact, Bill is better informed - so best the ABs keep mouth shut and stick to sports/ entertainment.
@@tracymichaelsen493 It can be sung in Maori and is at times but not everyone wants to sing it in Maori. When other Countries sing their anthems at rugby matches they have passion and it brings them together, (In the bonds of love we meet).
@@vanessamay3689 If we were actually meeting in the middle and Maori have learnt to sing it your way. Wouldnt it be fair for you to learn it our way . Now after youve instantly thought of your answer. Thats exactly how Maori feel. What was your answer, honestly?
Oh, like how pakeha punished and banned maori for speaking te reo, or couldn't vote, or couldn't attend drinking establishments, or steal land, or provide support and reward pakeha war veterans with land but not maori war veterans. Is that what you mean when you say don't force your culture into ours. Bit rich don't you think. Some would call it "appropriate amnesia" or here's a classic "It's absolutely OK for us to do it, but not you fullahs" Mmmmm....
It would be interesting to know actually what was said to Scot and Razor? I can not imagine these guys agreeing to the actual content that he put out there and no doubt that will cause some issues moving forward. TJ just went ahead concentrating on his own beliefs obviously trying to capture the All Black bus to see what he could milk out of it. Disappointing to wind up his career like that but then given his limited vision what were we all to expect. Using the haka to present his political views particularly when challenging the Italian team is disgusting. Hopefully the NZRU will do something about it and publish how the coach and captain came to agree to TJ's proposal?
@@raechelweir8861well of course Sean Plunket will say that. Have you heard what BHN had to say about it? Spoiler alert, they were for the haka, no surprises there as well.
NZRU have been losing the media battle with League for a couple of years now, This Haka nonsense by TJ doesn't help the AB brand at all. Union need to quickly steal the Warriors marketing team
You hit the nail on the head Heather I am one of those older farmers. I am disgusted at paranaras performance, and the lack of any foresight from players/coaches/NZR on how it would go down with kiwi's If another player wanted to voice a 180° polar opposite view, how would that be received? Well, most AB's have integrity and would even consider it. But if one did, has a president been set?
@@tracymichaelsen493who are you to tell someone to move out of a country regardless whether you’re a native or not you don’t own this world or whatever is in it we all have equal rights and opportunities so you take your primitive thinking and how about you go?
@@gordonpobar-gk3kz The country that would not allow Maori in the AB team and were excluded from Int sport because of their racist politics. OK go then!
3. Might be helpful to you In 2019, New Zealand Rugby publicly affirmed its commitment to the principles of Te Tiriti o Waitangi, recognizing the partnership between Māori and non-Māori in New Zealand. This commitment is reflected in various aspects of the organization, including: 1. Acknowledging the historical and cultural significance of Māori in rugby 2. Promoting Māori representation in leadership and governance roles 3. Respecting Māori cultural practices and traditions within the sport 4. Supporting Māori rugby development program
The Māoris have destroyed it themselves, get rid of it in every situation, it is meant to be a war challenge, not a sporting challenge in a competition!!
So TJ opposes Seymours bill? Big deal ! The other 14 ABs on the field didn't because they said nothing even captain Scott Barrett sounded vague about it later.
So the ABs went to SA without any Maori because SA had Apartheid Laws but later relented and made Maori players "Honorary Whites". All fine for some but apparently now sport and politics don't mix when it doesn't suit their views. Hypocrisy!
@@taylormadev it definitely appears that way... every person who has a problem with what TJ did can't seem to translate what he said 🤔🤷♀️ enlightenment is such a slow burn for some
Political views are shared all the time on in like the NBA and that doesn’t hurt their commercial viability take into consideration too that the ABs reach extends well beyond this country in rugby terms think also the old farmers I know who love rugby won’t let anything get between them and watching the ABs even if they dislike the team for whatever reasons jeez I’m fine with TJ and would be willing to forgive far worse for 2 tests win against Boks next year go ABs !!!
Storm in a tea cup. No biggie at all. She'll be right or tatou tatou is the Kiwiana attitude of many. Good on TJ , the All Blacks and Scott Robertson for supporting the haka in its entirety. Heartland All Black fans aren't fazed or fussed at all. Media moaning over nothing again. Get a life Heather.
@Elawz The ABs have always been a huge social and political football in NZ. The AB coach has more interest than the NZ PM. Same as SA. Naive thinking Elawz!
@ just because they do it doesn’t mean it belongs or is appropriate place to do it if you wanna go into politics get out of sports then it’s really not hard to grasp
What no one is mentioning is that he has strongly held views and beliefs that only manifested themselves into action in his last test as an all black. Not in the last 8 or 9 years during world cups, bledisloe cups, rugby championships games, just now as you cash your last cheque from the nzru. The same nzru that has given you everything in sport...
From the time George Nepia was banned from going on the South Africa tour, to the disastrous 81 Springbok tour, to the rebel sided Cavaliers tour of 86 to South Africa, Māori All Blacks were always feeling they had to dance around feeling their views weren't really warranted by the NZRU of the day, so how is this any different? Rugby today does not belong to rural farmers only I'm afraid but for generations to come. In essence I suspect that TJ feels he's Māori before rugby and he will be Māori after rugby so he's following his heart. Maybe the NZRU should think about how they want to approach our constitutional crisis but I suspect they'll dance around that too.
Yes but it comes across as extremely entitled and is a small example of where Maori entitlement and damage will go if we keep giving them special status. Look at what he just did; lied to his team mates, lied to his coach, selfishly used the national team to reject the majority of Kiwis, decreased the mana of ALL haka in the eyes of the majority of Kiwis, disrespected the Italians, and damaged the ABs in the eyes of many fans. And he felt he could do all that because he is Maori and has special status and everyone else just has to take it. As people have said he just harmed his own cause immensely
Rugby, South Africa and Maori have been all politics since year dot. Some of it has been pretty shabby. Ironic having a Saffer who grew up with Apartheid making comments.
@@Hatunrumioc I've put together a list of so-called entitlements maori had: 1. Land Confiscation - In 1865, the Waitara land confiscation in Taranaki saw over 1.2 million acres seized from Māori, particularly targeting Māori who resisted British colonial expansion - The Waikato War of 1863-1864 resulted in the confiscation of approximately 1.2 million acres from Waikato iwi (tribes), with land distributed to European settlers and military veterans 2. Political Disenfranchisement - The Electoral Act of 1867 initially gave Māori limited parliamentary representation through four designated seats, while Europeans had multiple representation per population - Māori were not given full voting rights until 1949, nearly a century after European settlers - Until 1975, Māori could only vote in their designated Māori electoral districts, limiting their broader political influence 3. Legal Discrimination - The Native Land Court, established in 1865, systematically converted communal Māori land ownership into individual titles, making it easier to purchase or confiscate - In the West Coast Settlement Act of 1866, Māori who were deemed "rebellious" lost all legal rights to their lands - European legal standards were applied, criminalizing traditional Māori practices like utu (reciprocity and revenge) 4. Economic Marginalization - The Dead Rent Regulations of 1892 forced Māori to develop their land according to European agricultural standards or lose ownership - European settlers were given preferential access to bank loans and agricultural support, while Māori were systematically excluded - By 1900, Māori owned less than 10% of their original land, dramatically reducing their economic self-sufficiency 5. Educational Inequality - The Native Schools Act of 1867 mandated English-only instruction, actively suppressing Māori language - Māori children were often punished for speaking their native language in schools - Curriculum was designed to assimilate Māori into European cultural norms, with minimal recognition of Māori knowledge systems 6. Cultural Suppression - The tohunga suppression act of 1907 made traditional Māori spiritual and healing practices illegal - Māori cultural practices like ta moko (traditional tattooing) were discouraged and sometimes prohibited - Missionary schools actively worked to replace Māori spiritual beliefs with Christianity 7. Healthcare Disparities - During the 1918 influenza pandemic, Māori death rates were seven times higher than European populations due to limited healthcare access - Hospitals routinely segregated Māori patients and provided inferior medical treatment - Vaccination and preventative healthcare were predominantly focused on European settler communities These specific examples illustrate how systematic privileges were granted to European settlers, directly undermining Māori social, economic, and cultural structures. The consequences of these policies continue to reverberate through New Zealand society today, forming the basis for ongoing Treaty of Waitangi settlement processes and efforts at reconciliation. So remind me please, who is entitled, because I'm really struggling with your narrative 🙄
@@taylormadev you just wrote a list of things no one alive experienced or is responsible for. And most of TJs whakapapa is European 🥳 Maori are about to be outnumbered by Asians if that hasn't already happened, so looking forward surely we need to be equal before the law and in vote. Finalize the settlements and then close them off for good, and ensure all who live here do so as democratic equals. The world isn't the 1800s.
@@taylormadev it's interesting how literally eating your neighbours and members of your own tribe, raping females of all ages, commiting genocide, enslaving people, murdering them, cooking their bodies, being sent out for Utu because someone called your granddad a dick, and having all those things done to you and your family for hundreds of years, never left any enduring mark on Maori but the British not getting it perfectly right and an itty bitty flu completely knocked Maori into intergenerational trauma. Sure bro.
I'm wondering how many on here moan about the news when favorable to Maori and call it racist. Pots and kettles are all black. There is a clear line forming in nz. Alien weaponry is a world renowned heavy metal band. They look pakeha . Fluent in Maori and what they have to say is very telling. They are the next wave of Maori. The one you cannot profile.
Great Haka and good on TJ ,you have many, many who support me 💯 %,, But unfortunately you have those racist haters that dont. Let them cry their hearts out , he ! he!
Why would you be happy with TJ basically destroying the mana of ALL haka in the eyes of the majority of Kiwis? Why would you be proud of a man that basically showed the whole world that Maori activists themselves have no honor, as they are cheering on a guy that lied to his team mates and coach? That doesn't make you look good
your polling is biased to people with landlines lol which is old people probs old white people . there was around 250000 people at the hikoi. thats more than seymour has in support
apparently, Perenara lied as to the message he was going to relay in the haka, T.J. has always been an opinionated little turd, one might say , a shit stirrer, not a very good A.B. either, the NZFU has to knock this sort of garbage activism on the head, anyone getting political should be heavily fined and banned from playing for N.Z. sides, be it Men, women, Maori sides etc, same rules for all.
Big mistake. Spot on. TJ set the match on his way out. That's not on. That's not sportsmanship.
If I hadn’t already stopped watching the All Blacks this would have seen me the out for the last time.
@@wally07 good - you are not a fan anyway.
I don't think rugby leadership in this country have the intelligence or sensitivity to appreciate just how stupid and inappropriate TJ's little racist demonstration was.
@@mikevickers1391 Maori have been doing the haka in protest for almost 200 years. Have you just clicked on?
Rugbys gone woke.
Can you please translate for me what he said? So I can understand what you mean...
@@missshante808 They don't want to translate. Funny that isn't it? Just want to be agast ,yet at what?
Sick of all blacks, too much controversy , don’t watch anymore…..
Now the All Blacks powers at the top should hand out some hefty fines for TJ, the coach and maybe add suspension for some of them too. That way this never happens again. TJs act was way out of line!!!
@@richs8882 why? Because he hurt your pakeha feelings? Get fucked mate.
Thank Heather 👍
I am one of those old guys. If the ABs want to endorse this political garbage then i can exercise my democratic right to switch them off. Entertainers are no more informed than Bill the barber - in fact, Bill is better informed - so best the ABs keep mouth shut and stick to sports/ entertainment.
@@zooknz1711 You mean Maori stick to singing and dancing for entertainment only!....you wonder why Maori take every opportunity to pukana you
...I think we are all over the AB's generally.
I’m over the haka.
It seems to be more important than our anthem.
@@vanessamay3689 Not if it's converted to Maori. Then it's plausible.
@@tracymichaelsen493
It can be sung in Maori and is at times but not everyone wants to sing it in Maori.
When other Countries sing their anthems at rugby matches they have passion and it brings them together, (In the bonds of love we meet).
@@vanessamay3689 If we were actually meeting in the middle and Maori have learnt to sing it your way. Wouldnt it be fair for you to learn it our way .
Now after youve instantly thought of your answer. Thats exactly how Maori feel.
What was your answer, honestly?
The Haka should be done in New Zealand and nowhere else. Don't force your culture into ours.
Oh, like how pakeha punished and banned maori for speaking te reo, or couldn't vote, or couldn't attend drinking establishments, or steal land, or provide support and reward pakeha war veterans with land but not maori war veterans. Is that what you mean when you say don't force your culture into ours. Bit rich don't you think. Some would call it "appropriate amnesia" or here's a classic "It's absolutely OK for us to do it, but not you fullahs" Mmmmm....
It would be interesting to know actually what was said to Scot and Razor? I can not imagine these guys agreeing to the actual content that he put out there and no doubt that will cause some issues moving forward. TJ just went ahead concentrating on his own beliefs obviously trying to capture the All Black bus to see what he could milk out of it. Disappointing to wind up his career like that but then given his limited vision what were we all to expect. Using the haka to present his political views particularly when challenging the Italian team is disgusting. Hopefully the NZRU will do something about it and publish how the coach and captain came to agree to TJ's proposal?
Listen to sean plunket on the platform..sounds like TJ didn't tell management what he really was going to do.
Can you please translate what he said?
@@raechelweir8861well of course Sean Plunket will say that. Have you heard what BHN had to say about it? Spoiler alert, they were for the haka, no surprises there as well.
Awkward flight home and landing into a storm 😅
Yep. Boycott them now
Some Boos would be in order, crossed a red line in sport!!!
Agree
NZRU have been losing the media battle with League for a couple of years now, This Haka nonsense by TJ doesn't help the AB brand at all.
Union need to quickly steal the Warriors marketing team
tacky and inappropriate, and shitting on his team-mates on the way out, arsehole moveTJ, and arseholes convince no one
What did he say?? Can you translate
You hit the nail on the head Heather
I am one of those older farmers. I am disgusted at paranaras performance, and the lack of any foresight from players/coaches/NZR on how it would go down with kiwi's
If another player wanted to voice a 180° polar opposite view, how would that be received? Well, most AB's have integrity and would even consider it. But if one did, has a president been set?
Can you please translate what he said?? It's like everyone seems to know but me 😬
100% on the mark Heather
I’m done with them..shifting allegiance to South Africa.
you should move there
@@tracymichaelsen493who are you to tell someone to move out of a country regardless whether you’re a native or not you don’t own this world or whatever is in it we all have equal rights and opportunities so you take your primitive thinking and how about you go?
Welcome brother. I wish we can shift all these South African All Black supporters hanging onto the past there.
@@gordonpobar-gk3kz The country that would not allow Maori in the AB team and were excluded from Int sport because of their racist politics. OK go then!
Ohh no... please don't go
Latest beaking news coming out is t that tj lied to robertson.glad hes off to japan and hope he never gets to play rugby in nz again.
I’m happy to see him go , shouldn’t have been picked for the Tour anyway
why would you think the coach or captain condoned that ?...let alone NZRFU - he has deviously pulled the wool and dropped them in it
sooo funny- good onya TJ- best laugh Iv had in ages
3. Might be helpful to you
In 2019, New Zealand Rugby publicly affirmed its commitment to the principles of Te Tiriti o Waitangi, recognizing the partnership between Māori and non-Māori in New Zealand. This commitment is reflected in various aspects of the organization, including:
1. Acknowledging the historical and cultural significance of Māori in rugby
2. Promoting Māori representation in leadership and governance roles
3. Respecting Māori cultural practices and traditions within the sport
4. Supporting Māori rugby development program
The ABs problem is the coach allowing this crap
A C minus for Razor
The Māoris have destroyed it themselves, get rid of it in every situation, it is meant to be a war challenge, not a sporting challenge in a competition!!
you don’t know at all what it’s ment for!! and if you don’t then don’t talk about it
you really think just because you dont like maori we are going to just disappear- your not only a racist but a stupid one
@@forwardpackstudios3603 he knows what it is...obviously you don't.
the Haka is pointless. It has nothing to do with rugby.
So TJ opposes Seymours bill? Big deal ! The other 14 ABs on the field didn't because they said nothing even captain Scott Barrett sounded vague about it later.
So the ABs went to SA without any Maori because SA had Apartheid Laws but later relented and made Maori players "Honorary Whites". All fine for some but apparently now sport and politics don't mix when it doesn't suit their views. Hypocrisy!
AllBlacks.!! No Its a racist problem by Maori
hmmm kiwi is a māori word and your using it. if we’re racist then stop using our words lol
maori arent the ones crying
Holy crap, what did he say that was racist... can you please translate?
@@missshante808 a racist calling maori racist and the scarey thought is, he doesn't know he is racist 🙄
@@taylormadev it definitely appears that way... every person who has a problem with what TJ did can't seem to translate what he said 🤔🤷♀️ enlightenment is such a slow burn for some
Political views are shared all the time on in like the NBA and that doesn’t hurt their commercial viability take into consideration too that the ABs reach extends well beyond this country in rugby terms think also the old farmers I know who love rugby won’t let anything get between them and watching the ABs even if they dislike the team for whatever reasons jeez I’m fine with TJ and would be willing to forgive far worse for 2 tests win against Boks next year go ABs !!!
Storm in a tea cup. No biggie at all. She'll be right or tatou tatou is the Kiwiana attitude of many. Good on TJ , the All Blacks and Scott Robertson for supporting the haka in its entirety. Heartland All Black fans aren't fazed or fussed at all. Media moaning over nothing again. Get a life Heather.
Can someone please translate for me what he said?
I agree
Keep politics out of sport. Would of lost some fans for sure.
fans?
Politics is in every aspect of life. You are just being Naive.
@@roalddahl1623you don’t flipping watch the all blacks for their political view do you no wonder they’re not number 1 in the world rank anymore lol
@Elawz The ABs have always been a huge social and political football in NZ. The AB coach has more interest than the NZ PM. Same as SA. Naive thinking Elawz!
@ just because they do it doesn’t mean it belongs or is appropriate place to do it if you wanna go into politics get out of sports then it’s really not hard to grasp
We have the TV on Mute and prepare snacks until kick off so as to avoid all the maori dribble, including the double-banger National Anthem
No problem nephew it was GLORIOUS. WE WERE MOVED AND OVER WHELMINGLY PROUD TO SEE AND BE A PART OF THE KIWI ALL BLACK FAMILY!!
You need to get out and about more
TJ lied, so it is his problem
He is supposed to be a professional . He proved himself to be a ?/
What no one is mentioning is that he has strongly held views and beliefs that only manifested themselves into action in his last test as an all black. Not in the last 8 or 9 years during world cups, bledisloe cups, rugby championships games, just now as you cash your last cheque from the nzru. The same nzru that has given you everything in sport...
Perenara is 2nd class..2nd to aaran smith 2nd class brain thinking his woke bs would float.. it sunk like his relevance
Maori dont care what you think Heather
And Pakeha don’t care what Maori think.
From the time George Nepia was banned from going on the South Africa tour, to the disastrous 81 Springbok tour, to the rebel sided Cavaliers tour of 86 to South Africa, Māori All Blacks were always feeling they had to dance around feeling their views weren't really warranted by the NZRU of the day, so how is this any different? Rugby today does not belong to rural farmers only I'm afraid but for generations to come. In essence I suspect that TJ feels he's Māori before rugby and he will be Māori after rugby so he's following his heart. Maybe the NZRU should think about how they want to approach our constitutional crisis but I suspect they'll dance around that too.
Yes but it comes across as extremely entitled and is a small example of where Maori entitlement and damage will go if we keep giving them special status. Look at what he just did; lied to his team mates, lied to his coach, selfishly used the national team to reject the majority of Kiwis, decreased the mana of ALL haka in the eyes of the majority of Kiwis, disrespected the Italians, and damaged the ABs in the eyes of many fans.
And he felt he could do all that because he is Maori and has special status and everyone else just has to take it.
As people have said he just harmed his own cause immensely
Rugby, South Africa and Maori have been all politics since year dot. Some of it has been pretty shabby. Ironic having a Saffer who grew up with Apartheid making comments.
@@Hatunrumioc
I've put together a list of so-called entitlements maori had:
1. Land Confiscation
- In 1865, the Waitara land confiscation in Taranaki saw over 1.2 million acres seized from Māori, particularly targeting Māori who resisted British colonial expansion
- The Waikato War of 1863-1864 resulted in the confiscation of approximately 1.2 million acres from Waikato iwi (tribes), with land distributed to European settlers and military veterans
2. Political Disenfranchisement
- The Electoral Act of 1867 initially gave Māori limited parliamentary representation through four designated seats, while Europeans had multiple representation per population
- Māori were not given full voting rights until 1949, nearly a century after European settlers
- Until 1975, Māori could only vote in their designated Māori electoral districts, limiting their broader political influence
3. Legal Discrimination
- The Native Land Court, established in 1865, systematically converted communal Māori land ownership into individual titles, making it easier to purchase or confiscate
- In the West Coast Settlement Act of 1866, Māori who were deemed "rebellious" lost all legal rights to their lands
- European legal standards were applied, criminalizing traditional Māori practices like utu (reciprocity and revenge)
4. Economic Marginalization
- The Dead Rent Regulations of 1892 forced Māori to develop their land according to European agricultural standards or lose ownership
- European settlers were given preferential access to bank loans and agricultural support, while Māori were systematically excluded
- By 1900, Māori owned less than 10% of their original land, dramatically reducing their economic self-sufficiency
5. Educational Inequality
- The Native Schools Act of 1867 mandated English-only instruction, actively suppressing Māori language
- Māori children were often punished for speaking their native language in schools
- Curriculum was designed to assimilate Māori into European cultural norms, with minimal recognition of Māori knowledge systems
6. Cultural Suppression
- The tohunga suppression act of 1907 made traditional Māori spiritual and healing practices illegal
- Māori cultural practices like ta moko (traditional tattooing) were discouraged and sometimes prohibited
- Missionary schools actively worked to replace Māori spiritual beliefs with Christianity
7. Healthcare Disparities
- During the 1918 influenza pandemic, Māori death rates were seven times higher than European populations due to limited healthcare access
- Hospitals routinely segregated Māori patients and provided inferior medical treatment
- Vaccination and preventative healthcare were predominantly focused on European settler communities
These specific examples illustrate how systematic privileges were granted to European settlers, directly undermining Māori social, economic, and cultural structures. The consequences of these policies continue to reverberate through New Zealand society today, forming the basis for ongoing Treaty of Waitangi settlement processes and efforts at reconciliation.
So remind me please, who is entitled, because I'm really struggling with your narrative 🙄
@@taylormadev you just wrote a list of things no one alive experienced or is responsible for.
And most of TJs whakapapa is European 🥳
Maori are about to be outnumbered by Asians if that hasn't already happened, so looking forward surely we need to be equal before the law and in vote.
Finalize the settlements and then close them off for good, and ensure all who live here do so as democratic equals.
The world isn't the 1800s.
@@taylormadev it's interesting how literally eating your neighbours and members of your own tribe, raping females of all ages, commiting genocide, enslaving people, murdering them, cooking their bodies, being sent out for Utu because someone called your granddad a dick, and having all those things done to you and your family for hundreds of years, never left any enduring mark on Maori but the British not getting it perfectly right and an itty bitty flu completely knocked Maori into intergenerational trauma.
Sure bro.
I'm wondering how many on here moan about the news when favorable to Maori and call it racist. Pots and kettles are all black.
There is a clear line forming in nz.
Alien weaponry is a world renowned heavy metal band. They look pakeha . Fluent in Maori and what they have to say is very telling. They are the next wave of Maori. The one you cannot profile.
Maori haka. Maori views. Simples.
Do a story on former ACT president TIM JAGO who got only 2 and a half years for sexually abusing 2 teenage boys ...
Great Haka and good on TJ ,you have many, many who support me 💯 %,, But unfortunately you have those racist haters that dont. Let them cry their hearts out , he ! he!
it was a low class sneaky thing to do .
Why would you be happy with TJ basically destroying the mana of ALL haka in the eyes of the majority of Kiwis? Why would you be proud of a man that basically showed the whole world that Maori activists themselves have no honor, as they are cheering on a guy that lied to his team mates and coach? That doesn't make you look good
@@jammyone5108 Maori learnt from the best- you classless sneaks
@@Hatunrumioc pss off with your sanctimonious clap trap- Maori are proud and you can whinge all you like
your polling is biased to people with landlines lol which is old people probs old white people . there was around 250000 people at the hikoi. thats more than seymour has in support
Inflation of the truth
250000 😂 even the Maori party capped their exaggerations at like 43k. 12k less than the coldplay concert and 1% of the vote
They have lost this 70 yeah right old ex fanatical AB’s supporter , enough is enough
Like you im gone , to think of time wasted on all black rugby to come to this ,well done nz rugby
apparently, Perenara lied as to the message he was going to relay in the haka, T.J. has always been an opinionated little turd, one might say , a shit stirrer, not a very good A.B. either, the NZFU has to knock this sort of garbage activism on the head, anyone getting political should be heavily fined and banned from playing for N.Z. sides, be it Men, women, Maori sides etc, same rules for all.