4:17 the Kent's are very welcoming people, Kara is in good hands 14:05 well, The Furies of Apokolips are an elite group of female warriors brainwashed and trained by Granny Goodness. Each have a set of skills that combined could be a serious treat 24:43 welcome to the community Supergirl
Yeah. It's adapted from the "The Supergirl from Krypton" arc of the Superman/Batman comics series (which followed the "Public Enemies" story), but WB renamed the movie because they thought Apocalypse would give it a broader audience. That arc reintroduced Supergirl to a modern audience and established her current backstory, after a couple of decades of DC not wanting Superman to have any direct family.
Supergirl has a bit of a convoluted history in the comics. She was originally created in 1959, and established as Superman's cousin, and she's named Kara Zor-El. Her father, Zor-El is the brother to Superman's father, Jor-El. She variously appeared as a guest character in Superman comics (and a few other related titles - this is an era where Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane had their own separate comics as well) as well as occasional runs of her own. At times, she's had a secret identity of her own separate from Clark and the Kent family - for a long while, she's gone by the name Linda Danvers. She was killed off (and then retroactively had never existed) during the major crossover and universe-wide reset of Crisis on Infinite Earths in 1985, and DC's editorial pushed for Superman's supporting cast to be stripped back and streamlined, including reducing the number of Kryptonian characters (so emphasise Superman being the "Last Son of Krypton"). When Supergirl returned to publication, there were various convoluted ways around the ban on a Kryptonian origin - including a shapeshifting being who adopted the form of Supergirl known as Matrix, and Cir-El, Clark and Lois' daughter from a possible future who travelled back in time. There's also Power Girl, who is an adult version of Supergirl from another universe who has a complex history all her own, because she kept existing even when her home universe was wiped from existence. The 2003-2011 Superman/Batman comic series reintroduced a new version of Kara Zor-El, cousin of Superman, and she's been established ever since. The animated movie "Superman/Batman: Apocalypse" is based on that comics arc.
For comics, Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow and Supergirl: Being Super are the big ones to check out. Woman of Tomorrow is even inspiring the next Supergirl movie which is gonna start shooting in January.
This episode is a wonderful little beacon of hope after the previous two-parter. Kara is just the right character to bring in some optimism after the loss of Turpin. Look forward to more of her in the DCAU!
Well, in the comics Supergirl is (usually) Kara Zor-El, Superman's literal cousin, from Argo City, a city that managed to survive thanks to her father's genius. Personally I would have had her parents just hear Jor-El's plan all the way back in episode 1, put their sleeping daughter in the Phantom Zone and somehow send the "coordinates" to Earth so Superman could bring her out like Mala.
DC had a rule that Supes was the last Kryptonian for stories at the time, and it affected the animated shows as well. The original Supergirl was dead at this point, and we had the Matrix/Angel supergirl instead.
@sporf_sporf Then why not make up a whole new origin for her, like Jimmy Olsen and Superman touch an alien artifact and Kara just emerges from it, learning English super-quickly but she's practically immune to Kryptonite but too much lead makes her weak without yellow sunlight.
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8psyou’re basically think of Matrix supergirl but I think the writing team really wanted to have cousin suoergirl and this the best compromise they had
Hooray! Almost at Season 3! Granny, and all of the New Gods of Apokalips, are great villains. They are designed to be “gods” based on platonic ideals. Darkseid, for example, is the platonic personification of Tyranny. And Granny is the platonic personification of Child Abuse. Naturally, many of her appearances include pretty dark subject matter. But she’s a force worth opposing with heroic might!
Oh! And there is… an absolute minimal amount of live action Granny Goodness. You’ll run into it naturally in your DC journey. She is typically not a romantic interest of Darkseid at all. Just a wicked minion and sort of a “captain of the guard” type. Recent comics have tried to flesh her out and suggested an abusive sexual relationship between her and Darkseid; but that comic wasn’t super well received so it sort of exists I the realm of fan rejected quasi-canon!
I'm super excited for Kara's movie, which will be based on Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow by Tom King. From what I understand, it's set to release sometime after Superman (2025), so maybe in 2026 or 2027.
To give you some lore in the comics, Argo was a city on Krypton that Supergirl was from. Here they made it its own planet. Also, and I could be wrong about this, but I believe the reason they’re so similar to Kryptonian’s is because in this continuity, Argo was a colony of Krypton.
14:30 in terms of movies, no. Hardly any of Superman's villains have been on the big screen. Lex, Zod, Steppenwolf, and Doomsday have so far been the only ones. (Bloodsport and mongal if we count suicide squad). Darkseid and the rest of his army made appearances in Justice League, but they didn't do much. (I think granny goodness was in the background of the Snyder cut) Hopefully, James Gunn actually uses some of his other villains in upcoming movies. Personally, I think a brainiac focused movie is long overdue.
_"Hardly any of Superman's villains have been on the big screen._ _Lex, Zod, Steppenwolf, and Doomsday have so far been the only ones. (Bloodsport and mongal if we count suicide squad)."_ Well, also Faora and Jax-Ur and technically Nam-Ek, Tor-An, Dev-Em, Nadira and Car-Vex.
Supergirl is such a great character both in the show and in the comics as she has a lot of survivors guilt over being one of the last members of her species and compared to Clark who never had a deep connection to Krypton and was raised on Earth, Kara on the other hand was raised on Krypton and experienced all their culture and had friends and family she loved but had to lose everything and watch her family and home perish. Supergirl in the comics is a bit more understandably jaded and as such she has trouble connecting to humanity since she had a to go through a long journey of truly feeling like Earth was her second home since she lost her first home. Fortunately she had Clark and the Kents who treated her like family and despite feelings like an immigrant on Earth she still has a good heart and loves Clark like an brother as much as he loves her like a sister despite being cousins. Btw Id highly recommend you go check out My Adventures With Superman show as the newest season (Season 2) of the show just introduced Kara and it honestly might be the best depiction of Supergirl Ive ever seen, its so good. Id also recommend reading Tom Kings Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow comic its such a great graphic novel that really shows how layered of a character Kara is.
lol I promise, Granny Goodness and Darkseid have NO ROMANCE WHATSOEVER! 😂 Darkseid loves nobody, but I find the idea genuinely hilarious! Also, Granby Goodness doesn’t quite take in girls and kids to train, but more indoctrinates, kidnaps, brainwashes, and tortures them into perfect little soldiers for Darkseid to use
At the time of the show, that version of Supergirl was dead (And maybe erased post-crisis) Instead there was some sort of energy being that took the shape of supergirl and eventually merged with a cultist and became some sort of angel (It's a bit convoluted, but I remember enjoying it). Her costume looked like the one in the show. They didn't want to use the current version, and weren't allowed to use the original, because DC didn't want there to be anymore Kryptonian besides Superman, So they just made her from a neighboring planet.
Well when he was mad about flying up to do it about 22:48 It was more so that trying to punch a comet there’s more risk involved like he hits it and a big piece breaks off and still flattens a city somewhere and kills a bunch of people
YES! So happy you got to this two parter and glad to see you enjoyed Kara. And, yes, Granny slays. Ed Asner is iconic as Granny. I always hear his voice when reading her. Another inspired casting choice by Andrea Romano.
Supergirl was dead in the comics since her death in the mid 80’s following her death in the Crisis on Infinite Earths event, and she wasn’t reintroduced with her knew origin until the early 2000’s, and that’s the origin she gets in the animated movie Superman/Batman: Apocalypse.
Granny Goodness isn't necessarily Darkseid's wife (as Darkseid already had a previous wife that was Suli, mother of Kalibak). Granny's just a very loyal minion among Darkseid's elite inner circle and she clearly leads a squad of female New God warriors known as the Furies with iconic ones like Lashina (the one with the electric whips), Mad Harriet (the one with the claws) and Stompa (the muscular one that crushes everything beneath her feet) and many more that aren't seen (Bernadeth, Gilotina, Bloody Mary, etc). And yeah. Clark and Kara are canonically cousins.
It was interesting how they portrayed Clark as Kara's "father figure" in the series, and yet in the comics, she's actually supposed to be older than he is.
Kara (sometimes Linda) is a character who has been written out of the comics and rebooted and reimagined so many times, so many different ways, that there isn't really much of a throughline of who she is or how she came to be. She's always different. The one constant, I think, is that she was in her teens by the time she lost everything. There's something very painful about that, that sets her apart from Clark, who was too young to remember what he lost. That also puts them in a position to learn from each other. Watching Apocalypse would not be a bad idea.
The reason the music is so good is because this is back when studios would use live orchestras and bands to score kids cartoons. I know it was most likely the only option they had but still the fact that they put in that much effort, it was truly a golden age.
This version of Supergirl takes a couple different elements from a couple different Supergirls in the comics, but is mostly based on the most well known one, Kara Zor El. Main difference there is that Argo was a city that survived Krypton's destruction, but slowly died later, and Kara actually is Superman's biological cousin. She's one of my absolute favorite supeheroes, and that's in part due to this show and Justice League Unlimited. Kara's usually considered the first Supergirl, but there was a single issue that had a Supergirl before her. That was a woman created when Jimmy got hold of a magic artifact and, not wanting his pal to be lonely, wished for him to have a super girlfriend that could keep up with his lifestyle. She was an absolute menace, getting in the way of his saving people and nearly blowing his secret identity to Lois, but she sacrificed herself to save his life. This show's tie-in comic has an excellent issue starring Kara that explores her trauma and some of the history of this version of Argo. It's Superman Adventures #21. Just ignore what they say about Kryptonite in that issue though, as it doesn't match up with the actual show at all. I also really recommend Supergirl: Woman Of Tomorrow. It's a miniseries where Kara goes on a space road trip with a little girl who is trying to get revenge for the death of her father. The narration can be a bit much at times, but it's still an absolutely breathtaking book.
I don't think anyone commented on it, so "Fleischer's Comet" is a nod to the old Fleischer animation Superman shorts in the 1940s, which are the animation style that inspired the Timmverse. ♥
Darkseid SA'd Granny in the comics. There is no romance or love between them whatsoever, it's all about power and control, just like every other Darkseid dynamic.
I was wating for so long to see what your reaction to Supergirl would be. FYI Supergirl being from Argo is unique to this version she is usually Superman's biological cousin from Krypton but it doesn't change the story much going foward.
This Supergirl has an origin similar the original comic version (though they still wouldn't let her be Kryptonian for the show as DC was still wanting Superman to be the only remaining one at the time.), and the eventual costume of the nonkryptonain Supergirl of the time, whose origin and nature is complicated and not something I can confidently explain. She started as one totally unrelated thing that choose to emulate Superman and then merged with someone else to become some sort of angel. I don't remember it all that well. The angel period was basically that outfit plus occasional wings of fire. I think the pre-angel part of the story was dating Lex at some point (Who had hair now) around the Death of Superman storyline. It was all very convoluted, but I actually liked it. However, I think I might be one of the few that did. Most people seemed to just be mad that she wasn't the old version. When they decided to bring a new version of Supergirl in that was closer to the original, they did give the angel Supergirl an actual ending story. Though some writer later decided to ruin that.
If you watch justice league then there are 3 episodes that you should wait watch until after you watch Batman beyond. "Epilogue", "the once and future thing part 1 and 2" . Those episodes are from justice unlimited. The show that came out after Justice League. Its just a continuation that is focus other characters
Supergirl the TV series handled perfectly why she was called Supergirl and not Superwoman. When Kara complaints to her boss Cat Grant she replies: "I´m a girl. And your boss. And powerful. And rich. And hot. And smart. So, if your perceive Supergirl as anything less than excellent, isn´t the real problem you'?"
Granny Goodness is more of one Darkseid's top generals or something like that & here she's voiced by Ed Asner, who also voiced Roland Daggett in Batman: TAS & Carl Fredricksen in Up.
Heck of a first day on the job for Supergirl, having to rescue her cousin from the pits of Apokolips. It's true, live-action Apokoliptan appearances are passing rare (hard to make those outfits look menacing in live-action), but Granny Goodness has gotten some great appearances in most animated works. The iconic evil old lady and a master of emotional manipulation, disguising abuse as kindness.
love your reactions on batman and superman animated series, the next episode is the batman the animated series were Batgirl and Supergirl team-up, its called the "girls night out", i know you would love, trust me
In fairness, Superman/Batman: Apocalypse (2010) is still a solid movie. Though I would recommend watching some Justice League episodes before watching that.
Has she watched the "Superman/Batman: Apocalypse" movie with Supergirl in it already? I would like to see that. Injustice 2 also features her for example.
Like another commenter said I definitely recommend reading supergirl woman of tomorrow if you haven’t already, James Gunn’s supergirl movie will be directly based on that comic and it’s honestly my most anticipated DC project from him personally.
Supergirl won't make a lot of appearances going forward. I am guessing the writers didn't wanna be stuck writing a Superman sidekick. So when Supergirl does appear, she'll have reason to.
They are like Spencer and Carly from Icarly, only superman is less goofy and supergirl is more spicy. But yeah, they give older brother who adopted his much younger little sister vibes.
I really like your input and yes those costumes and designs are fucking slay as fuck theres nothing stopping you from headcanon the whip girl as a woman kisser with that sugah line
I really reccomend Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, to be honest it is only Supergirl solo adventure i ever read but i think its showcases this character really well, and the art is beatiful. I also heard good things about Supergirl: Being Super but i didn't read that one yet so i can't say much more from personal experience. Supergirl was created in the 60s, i assume mostly for extending Superman brand, then in the 80s during Crisis on Infinite Earths she dies and for a long time the version of Supergirl that comes from Krypton doesn't really exists (because i think the idea was that Superman should be kept as the last Kryptoniana). There were other Supergirls, like Cir-El from the future or Matrix who was some weird shapeshifter. And also in this show, she is from sister planet instead of Krypton. It was until 2004 that they reintroduced her as Kryptonian and Superman's cousin. And yeah, you nailed the fact they relationship is very sibling like even tho theyre cousins, but since theyre the last of their kind they act more like siblings As far as i know Granny Goodness was never depicted as having romantic relationship with Darkseid, Orion's mom was called Tigra but i don't know a lot about her. Honestly, watching this reaction i realised that Granny Goodness is propably second most memorable villain from Apokolips after Darkseid himself, at least i seen Granny having her own schemes more often, and she is basicaly Darkseids main torturer and brainwasher while having this veil of care which is pretty neat and terrifying concept for a villain.
There's no love between Darkseid and Granny Goodness: Darkseid desires only one thing - a boot on the neck of every living thing, forever. Granny basically embodies a toxic, abusive 'love', where she twists and manipulates and torments kids to make them into servants or weapons for Darkseid. Her Female Furies are basically Darkseid's elite bodyguards and shock troops.
As for live action depictions... the final season of Smallville included a few Apokalyptian characters, including a version of Granny Goodness and the Female Furies, but only in a couple of episodes.
Hello Meg, we finally get to see Supergirl on Superman: TAS this is really good take care and have an awesome Thanksgiving today thank you my friend Meg.🥧☕☕🥧
@@swslwatts in this episode specifically it make sense. But in the rest of the show and Justice League? Is there a lore reason why he is wearing a suit outta space? Or is it just not to show off to his other super friends?
Honestly I was never a fan of Kara in the beginning she felt like Robin and Batgirl and for someone as big and larger than life as Superman he really didn’t a kid sidekick. But looking back I can appreciate her character she came from an advanced society and now she feels like she’s stuck in the stoneage with predated technology added that her baby cousin is now grownup into the world’s biggest hero and doesn’t need her protection anymore. So now its finding who out she is under the shadow of someone she was supposed to care for. Superman/Batman Apocalypse is a good movie if a little gritty compared to this its more or less a sequel to ‘Batman/Superman Public Enemies’ and anything with Kevin Conroy as Batman is always a treat. As for Granny Goodness she’s one of Darkseid’s lieutenants her job is to discipline the children of Apokolips to follow only Darkseid’s will. Her main enforcers are the Furies the most elite warriors in Darkseid’s army which is why they obeyed when Darkseid told them to punish Granny for her failure Granny may have raised them but Darkseid’s word is law.
_"added that her baby cousin is now grownup into the world’s biggest hero and doesn’t need her protection anymore. So now its finding who out she is under the shadow of someone she was supposed to care for. "_ You do know that's just a tweak they added on to her origin late in the game, right?
@ news to me. I’ve seen so many different variations of her origin that so much get blended up. I prefer the ones where she’s a brash hothead rather than the version the CW made.
@@BaithNa Hmmm. I was under the impression that the helmet gave him protection from telepathy before the movies, but that was a long time ago and my memory isn't great on the best of days. (I could be getting him confused with Juggernaut whose helmet gave him protection in the 90's cartoon at least.
In response to your question about live-action Darkseid, Zack Snyder’s Justice League did a live-action Darkseid and Apokolips very well. It was an amazing tease of things that were meant to come. When it comes time to watch that on your channel, you will truly love it!!!!
@@BaithNa You're in the minority, considering the way Joss Whedon and the then-WB executives tried to "MCU-ed" the film after Zack left it to mourn his daughter's unfortunate passing.
There is no money on Apokolips, let along any sort of economy. Infact it's about as far from capitalism as you can possibly get. More of a communist/socialist wonderland really.
4:17 the Kent's are very welcoming people, Kara is in good hands
14:05 well, The Furies of Apokolips are an elite group of female warriors brainwashed and trained by Granny Goodness. Each have a set of skills that combined could be a serious treat
24:43 welcome to the community Supergirl
Actually, Superman/Batman Apokolips is also a Supergirl movie, it also has Wonder Woman and the coolest New Gods characters, Big Barda
Yeah. It's adapted from the "The Supergirl from Krypton" arc of the Superman/Batman comics series (which followed the "Public Enemies" story), but WB renamed the movie because they thought Apocalypse would give it a broader audience.
That arc reintroduced Supergirl to a modern audience and established her current backstory, after a couple of decades of DC not wanting Superman to have any direct family.
Supergirl has a bit of a convoluted history in the comics.
She was originally created in 1959, and established as Superman's cousin, and she's named Kara Zor-El. Her father, Zor-El is the brother to Superman's father, Jor-El. She variously appeared as a guest character in Superman comics (and a few other related titles - this is an era where Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane had their own separate comics as well) as well as occasional runs of her own.
At times, she's had a secret identity of her own separate from Clark and the Kent family - for a long while, she's gone by the name Linda Danvers.
She was killed off (and then retroactively had never existed) during the major crossover and universe-wide reset of Crisis on Infinite Earths in 1985, and DC's editorial pushed for Superman's supporting cast to be stripped back and streamlined, including reducing the number of Kryptonian characters (so emphasise Superman being the "Last Son of Krypton"). When Supergirl returned to publication, there were various convoluted ways around the ban on a Kryptonian origin - including a shapeshifting being who adopted the form of Supergirl known as Matrix, and Cir-El, Clark and Lois' daughter from a possible future who travelled back in time. There's also Power Girl, who is an adult version of Supergirl from another universe who has a complex history all her own, because she kept existing even when her home universe was wiped from existence.
The 2003-2011 Superman/Batman comic series reintroduced a new version of Kara Zor-El, cousin of Superman, and she's been established ever since. The animated movie "Superman/Batman: Apocalypse" is based on that comics arc.
The whole scene where we see Supergirl flying over the farm is one of my favorite animated sequences.
Truly a cinematic experience as its own thing!
Bruce Timm knows what he's doing.
For comics, Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow and Supergirl: Being Super are the big ones to check out. Woman of Tomorrow is even inspiring the next Supergirl movie which is gonna start shooting in January.
Love being super
Is the Peter David Supergirl Run worth it? I know that is Matrix Supergirl, but is it still worth it?
This episode is a wonderful little beacon of hope after the previous two-parter. Kara is just the right character to bring in some optimism after the loss of Turpin. Look forward to more of her in the DCAU!
The guy who voiced Granny Goodness is the same guy who voiced Roland Daggett from the Batman series.
@BaithNa He also voiced Jonah Jameson from the Spiderman show.
@BaithNa Ed Asner is as well known to 90's kids as Tim Curry was.
@@brianrecinos3914 He's also the voice of the main character in Pixar's Up.
And also starre on a little program called Mary Tyler Moore.
@@N0-1_H3r3 My first time seeing him as himself was in the movie Baseketball.
Well, in the comics Supergirl is (usually) Kara Zor-El, Superman's literal cousin, from Argo City, a city that managed to survive thanks to her father's genius.
Personally I would have had her parents just hear Jor-El's plan all the way back in episode 1, put their sleeping daughter in the Phantom Zone and somehow send the "coordinates" to Earth so Superman could bring her out like Mala.
DC had a rule that Supes was the last Kryptonian for stories at the time, and it affected the animated shows as well. The original Supergirl was dead at this point, and we had the Matrix/Angel supergirl instead.
@sporf_sporf Then why not make up a whole new origin for her, like Jimmy Olsen and Superman touch an alien artifact and Kara just emerges from it, learning English super-quickly but she's practically immune to Kryptonite but too much lead makes her weak without yellow sunlight.
@@Mansplainer2099-jy8psyou’re basically think of Matrix supergirl but I think the writing team really wanted to have cousin suoergirl and this the best compromise they had
Hooray! Almost at Season 3!
Granny, and all of the New Gods of Apokalips, are great villains. They are designed to be “gods” based on platonic ideals. Darkseid, for example, is the platonic personification of Tyranny.
And Granny is the platonic personification of Child Abuse. Naturally, many of her appearances include pretty dark subject matter. But she’s a force worth opposing with heroic might!
Oh! And there is… an absolute minimal amount of live action Granny Goodness. You’ll run into it naturally in your DC journey.
She is typically not a romantic interest of Darkseid at all. Just a wicked minion and sort of a “captain of the guard” type.
Recent comics have tried to flesh her out and suggested an abusive sexual relationship between her and Darkseid; but that comic wasn’t super well received so it sort of exists I the realm of fan rejected quasi-canon!
I'm super excited for Kara's movie, which will be based on Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow by Tom King. From what I understand, it's set to release sometime after Superman (2025), so maybe in 2026 or 2027.
Milly will also be in the Superman movie coming first.
5:10 that’s definitely robin from teen titans voice actor. “Cops from rent a cop” line.
Also: Granny Goodness is voiced by Mr. Fredrickson from UP. Let that sink in. 😂
Yay, Kara/Supergirl is here😝
To give you some lore in the comics, Argo was a city on Krypton that Supergirl was from. Here they made it its own planet. Also, and I could be wrong about this, but I believe the reason they’re so similar to Kryptonian’s is because in this continuity, Argo was a colony of Krypton.
I'm liking the dynamic of you are as drawn to SUPERGIRL as you are as BATGIRL.
There was a team-up with Supergirl and Batgirl I remember.🤔 This was in response to Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, and Livewire forming a female gang.
Watch Batman/Superman Apocalypse, Superman Unbound for more Kara.
Yay, Supergirl!!!
14:30 in terms of movies, no. Hardly any of Superman's villains have been on the big screen.
Lex, Zod, Steppenwolf, and Doomsday have so far been the only ones. (Bloodsport and mongal if we count suicide squad). Darkseid and the rest of his army made appearances in Justice League, but they didn't do much. (I think granny goodness was in the background of the Snyder cut)
Hopefully, James Gunn actually uses some of his other villains in upcoming movies. Personally, I think a brainiac focused movie is long overdue.
_"Hardly any of Superman's villains have been on the big screen._
_Lex, Zod, Steppenwolf, and Doomsday have so far been the only ones. (Bloodsport and mongal if we count suicide squad)."_
Well, also Faora and Jax-Ur and technically Nam-Ek, Tor-An, Dev-Em, Nadira and Car-Vex.
Supergirl is such a great character both in the show and in the comics as she has a lot of survivors guilt over being one of the last members of her species and compared to Clark who never had a deep connection to Krypton and was raised on Earth, Kara on the other hand was raised on Krypton and experienced all their culture and had friends and family she loved but had to lose everything and watch her family and home perish. Supergirl in the comics is a bit more understandably jaded and as such she has trouble connecting to humanity since she had a to go through a long journey of truly feeling like Earth was her second home since she lost her first home. Fortunately she had Clark and the Kents who treated her like family and despite feelings like an immigrant on Earth she still has a good heart and loves Clark like an brother as much as he loves her like a sister despite being cousins.
Btw Id highly recommend you go check out My Adventures With Superman show as the newest season (Season 2) of the show just introduced Kara and it honestly might be the best depiction of Supergirl Ive ever seen, its so good.
Id also recommend reading Tom Kings Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow comic its such a great graphic novel that really shows how layered of a character Kara is.
lol I promise, Granny Goodness and Darkseid have NO ROMANCE WHATSOEVER! 😂 Darkseid loves nobody, but I find the idea genuinely hilarious! Also, Granby Goodness doesn’t quite take in girls and kids to train, but more indoctrinates, kidnaps, brainwashes, and tortures them into perfect little soldiers for Darkseid to use
Supergirl’s Joy of Flight makes me joyful, and very happy too.
In live action Smallville does a Granny and Darkseid storyline.
15:54 - My favorite Supergirl moment EVER.
Most iterations of Kara have her as his actual family. Her dad is Jor-El's brother.
At the time of the show, that version of Supergirl was dead (And maybe erased post-crisis) Instead there was some sort of energy being that took the shape of supergirl and eventually merged with a cultist and became some sort of angel (It's a bit convoluted, but I remember enjoying it). Her costume looked like the one in the show. They didn't want to use the current version, and weren't allowed to use the original, because DC didn't want there to be anymore Kryptonian besides Superman, So they just made her from a neighboring planet.
Well when he was mad about flying up to do it about 22:48
It was more so that trying to punch a comet there’s more risk involved like he hits it and a big piece breaks off and still flattens a city somewhere and kills a bunch of people
YES! So happy you got to this two parter and glad to see you enjoyed Kara. And, yes, Granny slays. Ed Asner is iconic as Granny. I always hear his voice when reading her. Another inspired casting choice by Andrea Romano.
Supergirl was dead in the comics since her death in the mid 80’s following her death in the Crisis on Infinite Earths event, and she wasn’t reintroduced with her knew origin until the early 2000’s, and that’s the origin she gets in the animated movie Superman/Batman: Apocalypse.
Supergirl and The Flash, both died during that Crisis event in the comics.
"Nobody can beat Intergang"
"Well, just call me 'Nobody'"
I honestly loved that line so much.
Next episode: GIRL´S NIGHT OUT from Batman: The Animated Series.
...and Superman/Batman Apocalypse.
Second this especially since the late Kevin Conroy and Tim Daly also voiced Batman and Superman in the Apocalypse movie.
Love that episode. Kara and Barbara stepping out by themselves
15:10 Stompa is by far my favorite Female Fury. She’s so hilarious 😂
Granny Goodness isn't necessarily Darkseid's wife (as Darkseid already had a previous wife that was Suli, mother of Kalibak). Granny's just a very loyal minion among Darkseid's elite inner circle and she clearly leads a squad of female New God warriors known as the Furies with iconic ones like Lashina (the one with the electric whips), Mad Harriet (the one with the claws) and Stompa (the muscular one that crushes everything beneath her feet) and many more that aren't seen (Bernadeth, Gilotina, Bloody Mary, etc).
And yeah. Clark and Kara are canonically cousins.
It was interesting how they portrayed Clark as Kara's "father figure" in the series, and yet in the comics, she's actually supposed to be older than he is.
Finally.. love the double Supergirl special with this and superman/Batman apocalypse. ❤❤❤❤
5:26 cousins. They act like siblings but are cousins
Hi Meg. Happy Thanksgiving ❤
The comet was named after the animation studio that produced the first Superman cartoons from the 40’s, I never picked up on that (man I’m dumb)
19:30 she does. In Injustice 2 and on her show
Kara (sometimes Linda) is a character who has been written out of the comics and rebooted and reimagined so many times, so many different ways, that there isn't really much of a throughline of who she is or how she came to be. She's always different. The one constant, I think, is that she was in her teens by the time she lost everything. There's something very painful about that, that sets her apart from Clark, who was too young to remember what he lost. That also puts them in a position to learn from each other.
Watching Apocalypse would not be a bad idea.
Oh, and I'm pretty sure drag queen was exactly what they were going for with this version of Granny Goodness. That's Ed Asner voicing her, btw.
The reason the music is so good is because this is back when studios would use live orchestras and bands to score kids cartoons. I know it was most likely the only option they had but still the fact that they put in that much effort, it was truly a golden age.
This version of Supergirl takes a couple different elements from a couple different Supergirls in the comics, but is mostly based on the most well known one, Kara Zor El. Main difference there is that Argo was a city that survived Krypton's destruction, but slowly died later, and Kara actually is Superman's biological cousin. She's one of my absolute favorite supeheroes, and that's in part due to this show and Justice League Unlimited.
Kara's usually considered the first Supergirl, but there was a single issue that had a Supergirl before her. That was a woman created when Jimmy got hold of a magic artifact and, not wanting his pal to be lonely, wished for him to have a super girlfriend that could keep up with his lifestyle. She was an absolute menace, getting in the way of his saving people and nearly blowing his secret identity to Lois, but she sacrificed herself to save his life.
This show's tie-in comic has an excellent issue starring Kara that explores her trauma and some of the history of this version of Argo. It's Superman Adventures #21. Just ignore what they say about Kryptonite in that issue though, as it doesn't match up with the actual show at all. I also really recommend Supergirl: Woman Of Tomorrow. It's a miniseries where Kara goes on a space road trip with a little girl who is trying to get revenge for the death of her father. The narration can be a bit much at times, but it's still an absolutely breathtaking book.
I don't think anyone commented on it, so "Fleischer's Comet" is a nod to the old Fleischer animation Superman shorts in the 1940s, which are the animation style that inspired the Timmverse. ♥
9:19 crazy
Darkseid SA'd Granny in the comics. There is no romance or love between them whatsoever, it's all about power and control, just like every other Darkseid dynamic.
Argos isn't a planet it's a city on Krypton, one of their largest in fact, like New York.
Not in the DCAU.
Bruce timm wanted Clark to be the only kryptonian
Well not Bruce Timm, but DC itself at the time.
@@sporf_sporf Yeah, DC had this weird thing at the time where Clark could be the only survivor of Krypton. This is why Zod never appeared.
I was wating for so long to see what your reaction to Supergirl would be.
FYI Supergirl being from Argo is unique to this version she is usually Superman's biological cousin from Krypton but it doesn't change the story much going foward.
I recommend the animated movie Superman: Unbound for more Kara. As well as Superman/Batman: Apocalypse.
Finally my favorite STAS episodes! I've waited a long time for you to review this! 🙀😻😻😻🙀
This Supergirl has an origin similar the original comic version (though they still wouldn't let her be Kryptonian for the show as DC was still wanting Superman to be the only remaining one at the time.), and the eventual costume of the nonkryptonain Supergirl of the time, whose origin and nature is complicated and not something I can confidently explain. She started as one totally unrelated thing that choose to emulate Superman and then merged with someone else to become some sort of angel. I don't remember it all that well. The angel period was basically that outfit plus occasional wings of fire. I think the pre-angel part of the story was dating Lex at some point (Who had hair now) around the Death of Superman storyline.
It was all very convoluted, but I actually liked it. However, I think I might be one of the few that did. Most people seemed to just be mad that she wasn't the old version. When they decided to bring a new version of Supergirl in that was closer to the original, they did give the angel Supergirl an actual ending story. Though some writer later decided to ruin that.
If you watch justice league then there are 3 episodes that you should wait watch until after you watch Batman beyond. "Epilogue", "the once and future thing part 1 and 2" . Those episodes are from justice unlimited. The show that came out after Justice League. Its just a continuation that is focus other characters
Supergirl the TV series handled perfectly why she was called Supergirl and not Superwoman.
When Kara complaints to her boss Cat Grant she replies: "I´m a girl. And your boss. And powerful. And rich. And hot. And smart. So, if your perceive Supergirl as anything less than excellent, isn´t the real problem you'?"
Granny Goodness is more of one Darkseid's top generals or something like that & here she's voiced by Ed Asner, who also voiced Roland Daggett in Batman: TAS & Carl Fredricksen in Up.
You would think Granny is giving you drag queen vibes. She was voiced by the late, great Ed Asner
my fav version of supergirl, same for this version in justice league unlimited as shes 19 in s2.
Heck of a first day on the job for Supergirl, having to rescue her cousin from the pits of Apokolips.
It's true, live-action Apokoliptan appearances are passing rare (hard to make those outfits look menacing in live-action), but Granny Goodness has gotten some great appearances in most animated works. The iconic evil old lady and a master of emotional manipulation, disguising abuse as kindness.
Seriously, that was my reaction to Kara. She's such a cinnamon roll.
My introduction and favorite Supergirl.
Can’t imagine getting parented by your cous who last you saw was a baby in space pampers and now they grown
love your reactions on batman and superman animated series, the next episode is the batman the animated series were Batgirl and Supergirl team-up, its called the "girls night out", i know you would love, trust me
Meg you have to watch My Adventures with Superman you'll love the show and it's Clark and Lois.
In fairness, Superman/Batman: Apocalypse (2010) is still a solid movie. Though I would recommend watching some Justice League episodes before watching that.
Has she watched the "Superman/Batman: Apocalypse" movie with Supergirl in it already? I would like to see that. Injustice 2 also features her for example.
She mentions she considered it but watched this.
and thats when the makes of teen titans found there robin and starfire
Like another commenter said I definitely recommend reading supergirl woman of tomorrow if you haven’t already, James Gunn’s supergirl movie will be directly based on that comic and it’s honestly my most anticipated DC project from him personally.
Supergirl won't make a lot of appearances going forward. I am guessing the writers didn't wanna be stuck writing a Superman sidekick. So when Supergirl does appear, she'll have reason to.
They are like Spencer and Carly from Icarly, only superman is less goofy and supergirl is more spicy. But yeah, they give older brother who adopted his much younger little sister vibes.
There's a pretty good reason why you think that Granny Goodness sounds like a drag queen; she was voiced by the late Ed Asner.
14:39 The Snydercut Justice League movie has them both I think.
If you wanna see more Granny and the Female Furies, read Mister Miracle by Jack Kirby
14:08 YES! THATS WHAT I WAS THIKING
Love you Meg
Out all the characters in DC I think Supergirl should be with Jimmy. Either him or Brainiac 5.
I really like your input and yes those costumes and designs are fucking slay as fuck
theres nothing stopping you from headcanon the whip girl as a woman kisser with that sugah line
Ah yes, Granny has arrived. . .and the Furies.
I really reccomend Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow, to be honest it is only Supergirl solo adventure i ever read but i think its showcases this character really well, and the art is beatiful. I also heard good things about Supergirl: Being Super but i didn't read that one yet so i can't say much more from personal experience.
Supergirl was created in the 60s, i assume mostly for extending Superman brand, then in the 80s during Crisis on Infinite Earths she dies and for a long time the version of Supergirl that comes from Krypton doesn't really exists (because i think the idea was that Superman should be kept as the last Kryptoniana). There were other Supergirls, like Cir-El from the future or Matrix who was some weird shapeshifter. And also in this show, she is from sister planet instead of Krypton. It was until 2004 that they reintroduced her as Kryptonian and Superman's cousin. And yeah, you nailed the fact they relationship is very sibling like even tho theyre cousins, but since theyre the last of their kind they act more like siblings
As far as i know Granny Goodness was never depicted as having romantic relationship with Darkseid, Orion's mom was called Tigra but i don't know a lot about her. Honestly, watching this reaction i realised that Granny Goodness is propably second most memorable villain from Apokolips after Darkseid himself, at least i seen Granny having her own schemes more often, and she is basicaly Darkseids main torturer and brainwasher while having this veil of care which is pretty neat and terrifying concept for a villain.
I would definitely recommend the Superman/Batman Apocalypse movie. Here's my 3 second pitch: 2 dads are raising their daughter the movie.
There's no love between Darkseid and Granny Goodness: Darkseid desires only one thing - a boot on the neck of every living thing, forever.
Granny basically embodies a toxic, abusive 'love', where she twists and manipulates and torments kids to make them into servants or weapons for Darkseid. Her Female Furies are basically Darkseid's elite bodyguards and shock troops.
As for live action depictions... the final season of Smallville included a few Apokalyptian characters, including a version of Granny Goodness and the Female Furies, but only in a couple of episodes.
hi MegMage
Hello Meg, we finally get to see Supergirl on Superman: TAS this is really good take care and have an awesome Thanksgiving today
thank you my friend Meg.🥧☕☕🥧
Ty for reacting to 90s anime
Ed Asner is amazing. Best JJJ along with J.K Simmons
If you want more Supergirl, watch Batman/Superman: Apocalypse and Superman Unbound.
Gotta watch Superman/Batman Apocalypse, it's a good movie
She's his cousin
Can you also react to more DC Animated Universe like Batman Beyond, Static Shock, Justice League 2001, and Justice League Unlimited too?
Why is Kal-El wearing that spacesuit? Is he not okay to go out on space normally?
He went to where krypton used to be so red sun and kryptonite.
Oh yeah, I'm hadn't considered the red sun.
@@swslwatts in this episode specifically it make sense. But in the rest of the show and Justice League? Is there a lore reason why he is wearing a suit outta space? Or is it just not to show off to his other super friends?
@@LaertesStrongCoffee this version of superman is not as powerful as the comics. He can't breathe in space.
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if you love supergirl you should def watch apocalypse
Gah you are all making me feel old listing every character Ed Asner played EXCEPT for Lou Freaking Grant.
We need more daredevil 🙏🙏
Question why is Kara go barefooted on the farm?
Well, if you're invulnerable and can clean your feet with heat vision, why wouldn't you go barefoot if you feel like it?
@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps Fair Point
Honestly I was never a fan of Kara in the beginning she felt like Robin and Batgirl and for someone as big and larger than life as Superman he really didn’t a kid sidekick. But looking back I can appreciate her character she came from an advanced society and now she feels like she’s stuck in the stoneage with predated technology added that her baby cousin is now grownup into the world’s biggest hero and doesn’t need her protection anymore. So now its finding who out she is under the shadow of someone she was supposed to care for.
Superman/Batman Apocalypse is a good movie if a little gritty compared to this its more or less a sequel to ‘Batman/Superman Public Enemies’ and anything with Kevin Conroy as Batman is always a treat.
As for Granny Goodness she’s one of Darkseid’s lieutenants her job is to discipline the children of Apokolips to follow only Darkseid’s will. Her main enforcers are the Furies the most elite warriors in Darkseid’s army which is why they obeyed when Darkseid told them to punish Granny for her failure Granny may have raised them but Darkseid’s word is law.
_"added that her baby cousin is now grownup into the world’s biggest hero and doesn’t need her protection anymore. So now its finding who out she is under the shadow of someone she was supposed to care for. "_
You do know that's just a tweak they added on to her origin late in the game, right?
@ news to me. I’ve seen so many different variations of her origin that so much get blended up. I prefer the ones where she’s a brash hothead rather than the version the CW made.
@@BaithNa Hmmm. I was under the impression that the helmet gave him protection from telepathy before the movies, but that was a long time ago and my memory isn't great on the best of days. (I could be getting him confused with Juggernaut whose helmet gave him protection in the 90's cartoon at least.
In response to your question about live-action Darkseid, Zack Snyder’s Justice League did a live-action Darkseid and Apokolips very well. It was an amazing tease of things that were meant to come. When it comes time to watch that on your channel, you will truly love it!!!!
@@BaithNa You're in the minority, considering the way Joss Whedon and the then-WB executives tried to "MCU-ed" the film after Zack left it to mourn his daughter's unfortunate passing.
Take your anti-Snyder bullshit elsewhere dude. This isn’t the place for that. The fact is that it was a success and still talked about to this day.
There is no money on Apokolips, let along any sort of economy. Infact it's about as far from capitalism as you can possibly get. More of a communist/socialist wonderland really.