The Type 055 is the most heavily armed ship in the world because the VLS launch cells are so large that 4 medium range anti-air missiles can be crammed into one cell. This allows the Type 055 to carry more missiles of all types than any other ship in the world today.
@@zetareticulan321 For some strange reason people think I am a Chinese nationalist. All I'm doing is just providing reasonable analysis on the military situation in the Western Pacific from an Army vet. It shocks me how much my fellow Americans hate facts. It's not as if if everyone pretends the Emperor is wearing cloths, he is suddenly going to have cloths on. If the Emperor is naked then he is naked. What is the point of lying to yourself?
90% correct. However, the anti-air and ant--ballistic missiles of the US are still more diverse in types and more efficient and proven in action. Chinese and Russian missiles suffer from using metal casing and shells rather than composite materials, so they are quite bulky and heavy. These will change in time, I hope. But much lower costs and higher volume of production in CHina may be a more important factor.
@@jensensean7118 China has applied a large amount of composite materials to 3.5th generation fighters, such as J10C and J16. There is no reason they should not apply this technology to missiles
It's worth mentionin that Horizon and Typ45 have smaller cells than avarge and 052/055 bigger. The pure number of cells is misleading especially considering euro cells can't quadpack.
The video forgets to mention that the type 055 has the most advanced radar system. It might be the only one which is equipped with S-X dual band rabar if I am not mistaken.
@@JD-dm1uj why would the domestic version utilize the export variant of the missile? I'd expect regular HQ-16F, not the somewhat less capable FE variant. I'm also a bit surprised they're not just going with those new smaller missiles for the HQ-9B system (I forgot the model number for the missiles themselves, but they were displayed at Zuhai 2022.) Unless they can double pack the HQ-16's on top of the other in each cell, I'm not sure what the benefit would be, since the missile is much shorter and would waste space in the magazine relative to the capability it offers.
055 and 052d uses the same VLS cells, so the YJ21 would also work on the 052d, as both yj18 and yj21 uses the 9m deep version of the GJB 5860-2006 VLS system
Awesome compilation, completely agree with your rankings, some would list the STG over the 055, to me, definitely not the case. It’s nowhere near as flexible and falls short on sensors and the quality of 055’s munitions will best the quantity of what STG offers. So glad you didn’t have the Zumwalt listed, falling for the hype of it, haha.
Also the Type 055 has more missiles dues to the size of the cells allowing 4 medium range anti-air missiles per cell. If they go up against each other, the Type 055 would win hands down.
I agree with the top 3 rankings, but I'm not sure if Japanese Maya or Atago is better than the newest type 52Ds, with the latest Chinese missiles and AESA radars. I think Chinese anti ship missiles are better, Japan is still using sea sparrows and type 17/90 anti ship missiles. Most likely japan and hsa won't be able to keep up with Chinese sensors or missile developments(quality) and quantity of missions and ships. That's not even mentionidng the number of ships in class, China has like 25 type 52D and 8-16 type 55, while Japan has like 2 atago and 2 maya. Not even mentioning the huge numbers of other ships and submarines. But other than that which is a minor thing and which I could very well be incorrect about, the rankings were decent. Oh yeah, I also do jot trust Indias domestic equipment and their reporting on it whatsoever. They always have problems, always lie and make excuses, so I don't trust them. It's standard for them to over promise, go over budget, years past deadline, and in the end the project is cancelled or they produce a fsr inferior outcome than what they've been showing off and claiming they will have.
It's a fair question. The rankings are always subjective. My view on the Maya and Atago is based on their improved AEGIS baseline 9C, a much larger number of VLS cells than the 052D, a very capable ASW helo in the Seahawk, and in the future the SM-6 induction for the Maya.
There are only 8 055. the 8th one was launched recently and it was deemed a big milestone for the Chinese navy by the state media. There might be another batch in plan though
Since when can the ships of the Chinese communists be rated better than those of the US and Japan? Can the numbers given by the communists be reliable? you believe a bunch of thieves?
Is it possible to explain basis of this ranking?? Apart from number of VLS cells.. What about Overall stealth feature or radar range or ability to tackle submarine attacks..
Since the first version of HQ9, the active radar seeker has been used. With AESA, it can obtain much more fire channels than the S300 (Rif) air defense system that uses semi-active radar guidance. Not to mention the naval version HHQ9B used by the 055. In other words, the multi-target engagement capability of the 055 is far stronger than the most advanced warships of the Russian Navy. 055 and Moskva are products of two eras. In addition, 055 is equipped with one of the most advanced shipboard dual-band radars in the world, and her target detection ability is far stronger than that of the sunk Moskva. The 055 also perfectly solves the problem of electromagnetic compatibility, adopts an integrated radio frequency system, and is equipped with a very beautiful stealth mast. She is probably the best warship in the world with integrated electromagnetic systems. This is the invisible part and the most advanced part of 055, unfortunately it is not mentioned in the video. In fact, 16years ago, the Chinese Navy built two destroyers equipped with the Rif air defense system (S300 naval version) purchased from Russia: Type051C, 115 Shenyang and 116 Shijiazhuang, which are deployed in the North Sea Fleet, they are barely seen in China's public reports, proving that they are considered a backward second-line destroyer in the PLAN.
Comparison videos always draw a lot of attention. It will be interesting reading the comments. While it would have added work, you might have given a 1-10 score for each vessel across the 3 domains of anti-air/surface/sub-surface. Some are very strong in one area, while others might be quite good in all 3. The later Burkes and derivatives (Japan & S.Korea) and the Type 055 are well-rounded in all domains, while the Indian DDGs seem to put proportionately more emphasis on sub-surface warfare.
The indian systems sucks, it's not stealth but an abomination on stealth designs, just look at the clutter that on top & over, clearly shows poor post management in designing and equipment positioning, secondly most of the crucial components are imported from overseas like from propulsion to the radar and communication, the only Indian in that thing is brahmos but thats too uses Russian components like its engine. Even it's design is somewhat or more similar to French Horizon class destroyers. Well can't put all blame on the shipbuilders since the R&D gets peanuts from the corrupt leadership at the department of defense.... And I'm from India, so yeah..heh
And the most interesting thing is the interoperability between this ship, the P8 Neptune asw plane and the russian kilo class submarine that india uses sucks, because the use of different comms in use in different vessels. Now they're somehow trying to iron out this issue between P8 Neptune and vishakapatnam by incorporating local made in india systems but again the submarine is being left out and only Navy surface ships uses local comms while both airforce and army uses Israeli and russian systems, which again creates hurdle in combined arms synergy.
I think the very fact that the higher end DDGs are good against all target types is what makes them good in the first place. Anti-air or missile defense is an important role, but so is anti-ship. The fact that the US lacks a modern supersonic anti-ship missile is kinda sad. The Harpoon II is just not a competitive missile in this decade.
@@theredbar-cross8515 The U.S. is even going the opposite direction of supersonic. The Navy is working on the VLS version of the LRASM subsonic low-RCS AShM. Also going to procure the Maritime Strike Tomahawk Block V. Shows the doctrinal differences between the U.S. and its adversaries.
Sylver a50 and a70 cannot quadpack. They can, but was never done by France Italy or UK, pack 2 CAMM or CAMM-ER missiles in a Cell. It was never done because, apparently, their navies prefer to have an Aster missile than 2 CAMM. Even the Italian PPAs were equipped only with Aster-30 missiles...
Kolkata Class is a workhorse but still had some areas to be improved further scheduled updates will be performed on it but all potential areas of flaws were identified and improved via the Vishakhapatnam Class Ship Both are a force to be reckoned with
The Type 055 destroyer, in terms of missiles, radar, and warship electrical systems, is the most powerful and largest warship in the world today! Moreover, I would like to emphasize that it is also the most aesthetically pleasing warship. Truly, its appearance is exceptionally beautiful!
The Type 055 looks good will be brilliant at takeaway deliveries as China,s fleet is coastal and not a blue water fleet and the crew have very little warfare training so they are ver limited. It will look fantastic at the bottom of the pacific. Oh shit they don’t have that ability
@@sandysimpson9615 Hahahahaha, it's truly laughable to say that the Type 055 can't reach the Pacific! As early as 2021, a Chinese naval fleet entered the exclusive economic zone off Alaska, which included the Type 055 Destroyer 'Nanchang'. Your comment comes across as an impotent person accustomed to attacking others due to a sense of deep-seated inferiority. It's both pitiful and hilarious😄
In terms of destroyer fleet strength, there's no doubt the US Navy is the top with near 100 ABs and Ticons. China Type 055 is most powerful because of its radar of x/s band that has some anti-stealth/anti-satellite capability, and hypersonic anti ship ballistic missile YJ-21.
Flight 1 of AB and Ticon are obsolete. Their Aegis systems are quite far behind compared to 052d and 055 respectively. Flight 3 is just being introduced but the hull design is getting old ... some questioned the ability of the generators to provide full power to the radars and sensors...
@@cj64343 but the rate of AB replacement cannot be compared to the speed of PLA building their 052D and 055.. in China they have a saying that building warships is like wrapping dumplings and drop them into the water...
It’s not just the ship, it’s also the crew, operations, communications, mission planning, support, leadership and institutional knowledge. The first time China’s navy conducts a combat mission will be its first.
@@CorePathwayTrue. The China fan club doesnt seem to understand experience matters. Their ships may be very good but they dont have a modern tradition of fighting around the globe.
Off topic, but have the CV 16 Liaoning and the CV 17 Shandong carried out any joint training exercises yet? I believe that the carriers and the Type 075 LSH have been seen together, but has anyone seen photos of the carriers together?
Nope. I think it is not meant to work together, they are supposed to do their own stuff separately. Like surrounding Taiwan from all directions to do a blockade or other stuff like that. Seeing two carriers in the same one photo would be pure photo ops, even for USA, since they would have to be super close together for that to be possible, and that would only happen if one was leaving dock and other returning or something like that. Otherwise it would also be a danger to the planes flying, taking off and landing etc, and would also make it vulnerable to a big bomb, like one tactical nuke can just take out two carrier groups.
Why does that matter, both can comminicate with each other. i.e. Ship A works with Ship C AND Ship D works with Ship E Means A, C, D & E can work with each other as they follow same protocols.
Oversimplified to the point of wrong. NWYT fell on the recent trend that I've noticed of swinging all the way from the "theyre completely unstoppable, turn on a dime and are completely invisible" nonsense to the less stupid but still wrong "they can barely turn, are as visible as BM and just as easy to stop, blind too, useless"...
To explain myself, they are first of all two kinds of weapons: Hypersonic Glide Vehicles and Hypersonic Cruise Missiles: HGV are basically BM that fly low-er- (upper atmo instead of above low orbit) and have lift, thus are hard-er- to see and .-more- maneouverable than the ballistic counterparts; which given they are about as agile and subtle as a brick with a rocket engine, it doesnt mean that much in absolute terms... The HGV is just a ballistic missile warhead that's better across the board but nothing new from a strategic point of view... It does the same job of going big, high and fast, but better (more (not very!) stealthy and maneouverable). By the way, these are the ones which suffer from plasma sheathing, and it's not that big of a deal given that ballistic missiles with terminally guided warheads do exist... HCM are, as the name says, cruise missiles that just go fast. As they go very fast (tho not as fast as HGV or BM), they cant turn as tightly as a slow CM and they must go at relatively high altitude (around the stratosphere) not to heat too much their air breathing engines. Therefore, they bridge the gap between the lightning fast ballistic missiles and the agile, stealthy and flexible cruise missiles, not better than either in their own category. That middle ground of speed and flexibility does open new tactical oportunities, for example time sensitive targets that cant wait an hour for a normal cruise missile and need a bit more subtlety than a ballistic one. HCM wont replace either big and fast BM or slow and nimble CM, but they're to be used alongside them as a weapon to fill that specific niche in the awkward middle between the two.
An interesting note to make is the effectiveness of higher VLS counts. Some have argued that beyond a certain point the need for more becomes moot. The Sejong the Great is an example of this in that the newer variants under construction have reduced their VLS count.
South Korea's new Aegis destroyer reduces the number of cells in large VLS towers, twice the size of existing VLS, and operates a variety of supersonic, hypersonic and ballistic missiles
Have you any links to arguments contending that more VLS become moot at some point? To me it seems obvious that more is always better, if for no other reason than to be able to saturate enemy defenses with offensive missiles or have the ammo to deal with saturation attacks defensively.
@@panpiper it’s a good question, but no. The Sejong the Great is the most proof I have. Remember that number of VLS cells can still be more if you build more smaller ships. That’s what the PLAN is doing with the Type 052DL. It only has 75 VLS but if you make enough of them you have a similar number of VLS, and they’re more decentralized so if you lose one ship you don’t lose as much capability.
If you're going to put the 12,000 ton Type 55 on the list, I don't see why the 9,500 ton Ticonderogas shouldn't also be considered. The type 55 maybe called a destroyer but by any measurement it is a guided missile cruiser.
So Burk flight 2 and 3 3 is an cruiser? And Zumwalt, Sejong the grate? Atago, Maya, Kongo are cruisers? Even Kidd class. All cruisers according to your logic?
The Ticonderoga is old. The Burk Flight II and III are much more advanced. So even if you count Ticonderoga, despite its big, it won’t make it to the top 5.
I am generally going by what the countries themselves class the ships. Unless if the ship obviously does not serve a destroyer function, like the helicopter destroyers of the JMSDF. As always with rankings, it's pretty subjective. If you make a video on your own ranking, I'm sure it will look different.
@@EurasiaNaval exactly also america has the gal to call the type 55 a cruiser because its large (even though it performs the exact role of a destroyer and not even that much larger) and then call the Zumwalt a destroyer when its way larger than the type 55 AND was designed to perform a completely different role to any other destroyer. its the most brain dead shit i have ever seen and so many people just go along with it.
Number 10...HORIZON class or Fremm adopted and built by the US become the Constellation class and classified as frigates. Its tonnage is about half of that of Burke class.Likewise, the 055 and Se jong could be classified as cruisers just like the Zumwalt. Ironically, the Tico class, only slightly heavier than the Burkes are cruisers Seems the line is blurred nowadays between cruisers, destroyers and frigates. The superiority of these ships is not proven until gunfights so the argument which one is the best is totally moot.
Class isn't really determined by size alone but instead what their purpose is. Like, you can't exactly call a small landing craft (~250 tons) a coastal patrol boat just because of its size.
I like to watch your channel your content is very objective. I would like to see the top ten frigates in the world, the top ten conventional submarines in the world, and the top ten LHDs in the world.
Interesting video, and nice to see a ranking that doesn't put the Arleigh Burke on top for once XD. I would have liked to see a little bit more explanation for why you placed them as you did in the ranking, saying why you think one is better than the other, but other than that it was a good watch. Maybe you could rank frigates or corvettes next?
Good videos! Thank you! Btw, that guy sounds like a guy who translated the videos/movies in Russia in the 90's. :-) Only he speaks English. Maybe it's his son...
This video is actually genuinely underated and this is actually the actual real China that the actual American and British BBC propaganda mainstream media actually don't show you is actually really like and actually capable of actually doing
I suspect that when shooting starts, the VLS count is going to be deciding factor in combat. The first to run out of missiles will be the first to lose.
The description says "Rankings are produced according to a combined assessment of their anti-surface, anti-air, anti-submarine capabilities, and cost-effectiveness." And yet its one of the most rubbish ranking i have ever seen. I mean if i have to give a score out of 10 to Anti surface capability, Anti air and ASW capability resp...to Vishakapatnam Class and Atago class......what would be their Total score out of 30 points? And cost effectiveness? Atago costed 1.48 Bil$ , each ship, as of 2009 money. Vishakapatnam costed 1.1 Bil$ each ship as of 2021 money. Yeah, heights of rubbishness!
Very good program. It certainly seems that bigger ships in this group, have a much heaver armament and would be much more dangerous and have a much better survival rate. number one in the group, is in a different class, to number ten. I wonder if Russia has anything worth talking about.
With regard to Russia, it's hard to justify putting their Udaloys and Sovremennys alongside other ships on the list. If this was a frigate ranking, it would look very different.
Vishakhapatnam class have Brahmos which is fastest cruse anti ship missile on earth and non of them ( 7-2 ) except Chinese 055 have any equivalent or more powerful anti ship Missile then brahmos aslo barak 8 which is developed by india and israel is one of the most advanced air defence system for navy ships available i think you give ranking on the basis of ships displacement now on the basis of technology
i still have no idea that the type 055/future 055A has the most cheap and very ideal price for that kind of size, fire power and capability, making very easy to mass produce and low cost manufacturing and also catch up the quantity of western ship easily
Honestly this is the scariest thing about Chinese ships, if the price is to be believed then they're just going to be able to outproduce the United States in a conflict scenario. It will be like the Pacific War but this time the US is Japan.
@@kapitankapital6580 The US has already pulled back to the 2nd island chain. I think the message is clear. a direct naval confrontation with China is not a viable strategy. but rather let Taiwan and Japan possibly South Korea counter China is more reasonable.
@@eternalobi I don't think either the US or China, for all their furor, want a war. I suspect that we'll see China make a push with something like a naval blockade of Taiwan, and while the US will complain and maybe even try to send weapons, they won't risk sending their own ships into the area. I think ultimately this conflict will end with both sides sitting down and acknowledging Taiwan becoming part of China under One Country Two Systems. If the US is smart they'll negotiate this sooner rather than later to get compromises like China recognising Japanese sovereignty over the Senkaku Islands, which will help stabilise East Asia in the long run.
I thought it would be another 055 is lousy copycat of Burke, turns out I'm wrong. It's good to see normal people on TH-cam, your channel restored a little bit of my faith in humanity.
@eurasianavalinsight love your vids! I do think you forgot the Zumwalt class? I'm not forn the US but I think if they receive there new Ballistic missles, they will be very powerfull :)
Hey Sam, it's a fair question. Ranking is always quite subjective. If I were to consider only capabilities, Zumwalt would rank fairly well on the list, but from a cost-to-capability standpoint, it is hard to justify ranking it ahead of other ships. For the cost of one Zumwalt, you can buy more than two Burkes, which are individually more capable. That's my reasoning.
@@EurasiaNaval Hi, very understandable! I didn't know you were also looking at costs. I do really like your videos, keep up the good work! You're on of the best and most thorough on this ubject ;)
pretty wrong ranking, south korea destroyer can not be at 2nd place, its radar and weapons are outdated US systems, US did not provide them to south korea compared to japan, it is just big , the so called VLS on south korean ship, more than 2/3 is empty because south korea has no good missiles , even it claims it has domestic built ones, also 052d is better than US burke class, at least at same level. the radar and anti ship missile is definitely more advanced than burke
Lacks a volume search radar, so it only has self-defense level AA capability. Has only 60 VLS cells despite being larger than the Type-055 for whatever frickin' reason. Has mediocre anti-ship capability.
Hobart class= F100 class alvaro de bazan... The original is the Spanish F100, both of Spanish manufacturing, the Australian frigate was called the Horbat class, for Cesar what belongs to Cesar
I rank the _Arleigh Burke_ class above the _Sejong the Great_ class. I feel most people rank them the contrary. I don't blame them; on paper, it does seem that with 128 VLS cells vs. 96 cells, it's a foregone conclusion to pick the STG. But that's just hardware. Looking past that, you find out the STG class uses only Aegis Baseline 7. This leaves the class unable to perform Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD)-the ability to conduct both anti-air warfare (AAW) and Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) simultaneously. The latest _Burke_s on the other hand are equipped with Aegis BMD 5.1 Baseline 9 out of the factory. KDX III Batch II will rectify this by using Aegis Baseline 9, but at the cost of having only 88 VLS cells-yep, from 128 to 88, a 31% decrease. This is the importance of software. ROK is willing to trade 31% of the VLS depth for Aegis IAMD capability. And this alone makes the AB Flight IIA the better choice with 96 cells. Flight III _Burke_s with AN/SPY-6(V)1 and Baseline 10 is overkill competition for the STG class. You can get into even more technical stuff by for example comparing the EW capabilities. Not much is known about the STG's LIG Nex1 SLQ-200K Sonata EW suite, but it's almost certainly not on par with the US's Surface Electronic Warfare Improvement Program (SEWIP), which is procuring the SLQ-32(V)6 and (V)7. I found it odd the disparity in ranking between the Horizon class and the Type 45 class. They're actually similar ships as they were the result of the Common New Generation Frigate program between France, Italy, and the UK (UK withdrew to make their own Type 45). I might rank Horizon above the Type 45 because the Type 45 is purely an AAW destroyer whereas the Horizon class is multirole. The British like to argue their Type 45 is better than the _Arleigh Burke_ class. You have to admit the Type 45 is probably the best AAW destroyer class in the world, but the reality is that's the only thing it can do. And only 48 cells isn't great. The Type 055 class is looking very very nice on paper. Great VLS count, signature reduction, AESA radar, and a killer sex appeal. Looking at the armament, there's some points of concern. It uses the HHQ-9 SAM, definitely an older weapon. It's undeniably inferior to the American Standard Missile family or the Franco-Italian Aster family. Sub Brief just did a video where he says the HHQ-9 can't even engage sea-skimming anti-ship missiles. (th-cam.com/video/cZfETzFEqF0/w-d-xo.html) Now I'm doubtful to believe that, but it definitely struggles to engage sea-skimmers. This means the ancient American Harpoon could _theoretically_ take out the Type 055. Actually, the S-300 which the HHQ-9 is based on struggles against sea-skimmers-demonstrated by a certain ship recently converted to submarine duty. It's possible the Chinese have updated the missile's software to counter the decades-old Harpoon. Meanwhile, the US has the RIM-162 ESSM, quad-packable and purely designed to kill supersonic sea-skimmers like the YJ-18 in its terminal phase. Whatever counterpart of Aegis the Chinese have-"Chinese Aegis"-definitely has promise, but as of right now the Aegis Combat System is still second to none, developed from decades of real experience dating back to the early Cold War. We're not sure if China even has equivalent capability to Aegis IAMD. They need time to develop the experience needed to get on par. So, with armament and sensors and processing systems galore in mind, here's my subjective (and probably highly controversial) ranking (some classes from same country omitted): 10. _Udaloy_-class destroyer - Udaloy II variant (gotta get the Russians in here somehow) 9. _Visakhapatnam_-class destroyer 8. _Hobart_-class destroyer 7. Type 052D destroyer - 052DL variant 6. _Sejong the Great_-class destroyer - Batch II variant 5. Type 45 destroyer 4. Horizon-class destroyer 3. _Maya_-class destroyer 2. Type 055 destroyer 1. _Arleigh Burke_-class destroyer - Flight III variant Regarding why I put the _Burke_ above the Type 055, remember this is based on the current state as of 2022-2023. Weapons and sensors and processing systems aside, the Type 055 is obviously better. But a warship is more than the hull and superstructure. Until China matures their systems, the American class of tin cans is my #1. (if you made it this far then thanks for reading an armchair analyst's two cents)
@@rohitb5834 🤭 I thought missiles are the strong points of Chinese equipments all the long range, AI enabled precision stuff ... to a point all, US president pressure Chinese electronic companies, lure TSMC build advanced chip plants in the US this guy clearly has no idea what he is talking about
Ranking is subjective. In terms of the number of VLS cells, Sehjong class destroyers is number 1, with Type 055 at 2nd and Burke at 3rd. If Tico is included then Tico would replace Type 055 at 2nd. In terms of radar, Burke Flight II and Flight III with SPY-6 is 1st, while Type 055's Type 346B radar and European SMART-L radar tied at 2nd, Type 052D's Type 346A and SPY-1 for 3rd. In terms of offensive weapons, Type 055 at 1st IF it is equipped with YJ-21 while Burke at 2nd, Maya at 3rd followed by Sehjong at 4th. In terms of defense Burke and Maya at 1st, Atago at 2nd, and Sehjong at 3rd.
Kalau saya menilai destroyer bobot penuh muatan - kosngnya, cms radar jangkauanya dan seatle juga vls yang di bawa, dan juga SAM nya,,, jelas arleigh usa adalah yang 1¹
the Ausatralian Hobart class was actually designed with the concept of being a better warship than the Arleigh Burkes of the USA IT IS NOT CONJECTURE either , as the brief was just that, It carries most of the same systems. The Chinese classes consideration is based on specs that are not really known, but you can't write them off, although I personally think the British ships seem to be the best but every last vessel listed here is basically a match for every other one,
In fact, the Type 052D destroyer as an air defense capital ship plays a huge role in the fleet. It can not only carry a variety of missiles, but most of them are air defense missiles
To put it simply, the most powerful guided missile destroyers are those of the aegis warships, basically with the really powerful complex and efficient combat system that connects the spy-1 type radar with the computer to automatically launch the surface to air missile quickly at incoming anti ship missiles or enemy aircraft, that’s basically the aegis combat system in basic terms right?
@@moalzaben5554 not when he specifically mentions spy-1 radar. If he said aegis like, sure. But he specifically mentions spy -1 which shows he's talking about not type 55
@@moalzaben5554 No. The SPY-1 radar is an older PESA radar. Similar advanced combat management system are provided on the Vishakapatnam and Kolkata Class as well, but they have even more advanced AESA radar when it comes to tracking.
All western bias aside this is big like a cruise ship , Not stealthy like a Burke Class . What you call bullying, we call policing 🎉🎉😂😂 the world’s Oceans …
Yes because Russia doesn't have new destroyer at this moments! the LIDER Class Destroyer is the New Generation Destroyer of Russia but not yet build, the New Warships of Russia is RF ADMIRAL GORSHKOV Class FRIGATE and She is Dangerous FRIGATE because of ZIRCON Hypersonic missile installed. And also KIROV CLASS BATTLECRUISER RF ADMIRAL NAKHIMOV under upgrade is have also ZIRCON Hypersonic missile, is back in duty by next year,
@@filipzietek5146 yes brother RF ADMIRAL GORSHKOV CLASS FRIGATE She is powerful and Dangerous FRIGATE opponent of All Western Countries Navy! she is Stealth Also,
Can you tell me why? It has 36 less VLS cells than Arleigh Burke despite being much larger. Lacks a volume search radar, so it only has self-defense level AA systems. Has mediocre anti-ship capability if any.
The Type 055 is the most heavily armed ship in the world because the VLS launch cells are so large that 4 medium range anti-air missiles can be crammed into one cell. This allows the Type 055 to carry more missiles of all types than any other ship in the world today.
@@zetareticulan321 For some strange reason people think I am a Chinese nationalist. All I'm doing is just providing reasonable analysis on the military situation in the Western Pacific from an Army vet.
It shocks me how much my fellow Americans hate facts. It's not as if if everyone pretends the Emperor is wearing cloths, he is suddenly going to have cloths on. If the Emperor is naked then he is naked. What is the point of lying to yourself?
90% correct. However, the anti-air and ant--ballistic missiles of the US are still more diverse in types and more efficient and proven in action. Chinese and Russian missiles suffer from using metal casing and shells rather than composite materials, so they are quite bulky and heavy. These will change in time, I hope. But much lower costs and higher volume of production in CHina may be a more important factor.
@@felixsu375 well it depends on whether you exaggerate facts and/or theories to favour a specific side
@Felix Su
They're afraid of the truth because it destroys their belief that they are somehow exceptional and superior to the Chinese.
@@jensensean7118 China has applied a large amount of composite materials to 3.5th generation fighters, such as J10C and J16. There is no reason they should not apply this technology to missiles
It's worth mentionin that Horizon and Typ45 have smaller cells than avarge and 052/055 bigger. The pure number of cells is misleading especially considering euro cells can't quadpack.
The video forgets to mention that the type 055 has the most advanced radar system. It might be the only one which is equipped with S-X dual band rabar if I am not mistaken.
055，只是渔船改装的，挖了几个孔……
@@宋学民好似你個臭西老母日夜不分被契家佬左又掘，右又掘😅
你说的没错，055不值一提。 都是大鱼船 大货船改的。 我还是希望台湾早一步光复大陆。
全是友军
055只是我们共产党造出来骗人的，都是纸片粘贴的手工艺品
The 054B frigate now being built to be equipped with new gen HQ-61FE with 160km range will be quite comparable to the Horizon class destroyer.
Do you mean the HQ-16 (not the HQ-61)?
@@simonyip5978 yes, it’s the HQ-16F
@@JD-dm1uj why would the domestic version utilize the export variant of the missile? I'd expect regular HQ-16F, not the somewhat less capable FE variant. I'm also a bit surprised they're not just going with those new smaller missiles for the HQ-9B system (I forgot the model number for the missiles themselves, but they were displayed at Zuhai 2022.) Unless they can double pack the HQ-16's on top of the other in each cell, I'm not sure what the benefit would be, since the missile is much shorter and would waste space in the magazine relative to the capability it offers.
@@saml7610 It won’t, my bad for putting the E (export).
@@simonyip5978 Typo
055 and 052d uses the same VLS cells, so the YJ21 would also work on the 052d, as both yj18 and yj21 uses the 9m deep version of the GJB 5860-2006 VLS system
It's fair deduction, although I am not aware of any footages of the Type 052D using the YJ-21 yet, so I don't want to be definitive
The 850mm VLS is called HT-1
052d's front VLS cells are smaller than those in the middle.
Chinese ships consists of universal vls for all ships . So, any missile any ship no prob.
I heard the Chinese 055 destroyer has the hpyersonic anti-ship missile
It does.
It does, and so does 052d.
Comparison between Visakhapatnam class and type 45 class is weird, brahmos and subsonic missiles is inexplicable?
Awesome compilation, completely agree with your rankings, some would list the STG over the 055, to me, definitely not the case. It’s nowhere near as flexible and falls short on sensors and the quality of 055’s munitions will best the quantity of what STG offers. So glad you didn’t have the Zumwalt listed, falling for the hype of it, haha.
Also the Type 055 has more missiles dues to the size of the cells allowing 4 medium range anti-air missiles per cell. If they go up against each other, the Type 055 would win hands down.
Thanks JD. I really like the look of the STG class - very long and smooth, a more handsome cousin of the Arleigh Burke
@@EurasiaNaval Absolutely, always thought the same, beautifully designed ship.
世宗大王號非常過時，並且他們一直沒有解決雷達相互干擾的問題，考慮到韓國人比中國人更加喜歡吹噓，所以我認為世宗大王號甚至不如伯克級
@@chika5361 其实最大问题是美国人不向韩国人开放武器源码导致韩国人没法整合美国的弹和自家的VLS，日本船也是这样，韩国和日本造舰能力是可以的，但在舰载设备上只能看美国的脸色
Yup the type 055 deserved the top spot. That is one heavily packed destroyer with now even hypersonic missile YJ21 in service.
there arent "Flaws". Just because a better ship comes up doesn mean the previous ship had "flaws".
@@rohitb5834你知道中国已经开始同时造3艘055b型驱逐舰吗？说白了055b就是055的改良版，它会拥有更多的垂直发射单元以及更广泛的电子雷达范围😂
I agree with the top 3 rankings, but I'm not sure if Japanese Maya or Atago is better than the newest type 52Ds, with the latest Chinese missiles and AESA radars. I think Chinese anti ship missiles are better, Japan is still using sea sparrows and type 17/90 anti ship missiles.
Most likely japan and hsa won't be able to keep up with Chinese sensors or missile developments(quality) and quantity of missions and ships.
That's not even mentionidng the number of ships in class, China has like 25 type 52D and 8-16 type 55, while Japan has like 2 atago and 2 maya. Not even mentioning the huge numbers of other ships and submarines.
But other than that which is a minor thing and which I could very well be incorrect about, the rankings were decent.
Oh yeah, I also do jot trust Indias domestic equipment and their reporting on it whatsoever. They always have problems, always lie and make excuses, so I don't trust them. It's standard for them to over promise, go over budget, years past deadline, and in the end the project is cancelled or they produce a fsr inferior outcome than what they've been showing off and claiming they will have.
It's a fair question. The rankings are always subjective. My view on the Maya and Atago is based on their improved AEGIS baseline 9C, a much larger number of VLS cells than the 052D, a very capable ASW helo in the Seahawk, and in the future the SM-6 induction for the Maya.
India often use israeli technology in their ship radars and missile, and actually israel's radar technology more advance than type 052 currently using
Shut up idt
There are only 8 055. the 8th one was launched recently and it was deemed a big milestone for the Chinese navy by the state media. There might be another batch in plan though
Since when can the ships of the Chinese communists be rated better than those of the US and Japan? Can the numbers given by the communists be reliable? you believe a bunch of thieves?
Type 55 is the finest. It will only be surpass by another larger PLA Destroyer in the future.
type057 电磁炮+全电推进
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
How they can build 8 Type 55 in 4 years is unbelievable. The YJ 21 hypersonic has 10 times of sound speed maximally(3400m in one second)
那就是8艘渔船，挖了几个洞，用来发射导弹，不复杂的。👀
@@宋学民不不不，虽然挖了一些洞，但都是用来发射YJ21鱼枪的，只不过那种鱼枪飞得比较快😂
055 only for fishing
世界%60的民用造船在中国，不过是稍微用了一些民用产能。这远不是真正实力，你可以想象一下战时产能。
they can build 10 in one year during war time. you never know.
Is it possible to explain basis of this ranking?? Apart from number of VLS cells.. What about Overall stealth feature or radar range or ability to tackle submarine attacks..
Right of which none of the Chinese boats have been proven in any combat theatre that I know of.
Great analysis and not a single dislike so far 🙌🙌🙌
The YJ-21 missile on the Chinese Type-055 is also a hypersonic missile.
YJ-21 missile and YJ-20 missile
@@鹰眼图说军事 I can't find any information about YJ-20
No, they are not, stop spreading lies. The YJ21 is just an upgraded version of YJ18. -- 战忽局座😊
@@dennisfxdagree, China currently does not exceed India's conventional missile strength, and South Korea is also very leading in this regard!🤝
@@dennisfxd 6
Since the first version of HQ9, the active radar seeker has been used. With AESA, it can obtain much more fire channels than the S300 (Rif) air defense system that uses semi-active radar guidance. Not to mention the naval version HHQ9B used by the 055. In other words, the multi-target engagement capability of the 055 is far stronger than the most advanced warships of the Russian Navy. 055 and Moskva are products of two eras.
In addition, 055 is equipped with one of the most advanced shipboard dual-band radars in the world, and her target detection ability is far stronger than that of the sunk Moskva.
The 055 also perfectly solves the problem of electromagnetic compatibility, adopts an integrated radio frequency system, and is equipped with a very beautiful stealth mast. She is probably the best warship in the world with integrated electromagnetic systems.
This is the invisible part and the most advanced part of 055, unfortunately it is not mentioned in the video.
In fact, 16years ago, the Chinese Navy built two destroyers equipped with the Rif air defense system (S300 naval version) purchased from Russia: Type051C, 115 Shenyang and 116 Shijiazhuang, which are deployed in the North Sea Fleet, they are barely seen in China's public reports, proving that they are considered a backward second-line destroyer in the PLAN.
055只是艘大的渔船，挖了几个孔，用来发射导弹。👀
Very sorry if you are Rus. Your black sea fleet has been eliminated by Ukraine.
The Chinese 055 looks awsome🤩
Comparison videos always draw a lot of attention. It will be interesting reading the comments. While it would have added work, you might have given a 1-10 score for each vessel across the 3 domains of anti-air/surface/sub-surface. Some are very strong in one area, while others might be quite good in all 3. The later Burkes and derivatives (Japan & S.Korea) and the Type 055 are well-rounded in all domains, while the Indian DDGs seem to put proportionately more emphasis on sub-surface warfare.
The indian systems sucks, it's not stealth but an abomination on stealth designs, just look at the clutter that on top & over, clearly shows poor post management in designing and equipment positioning, secondly most of the crucial components are imported from overseas like from propulsion to the radar and communication, the only Indian in that thing is brahmos but thats too uses Russian components like its engine. Even it's design is somewhat or more similar to French Horizon class destroyers. Well can't put all blame on the shipbuilders since the R&D gets peanuts from the corrupt leadership at the department of defense.... And I'm from India, so yeah..heh
And the most interesting thing is the interoperability between this ship, the P8 Neptune asw plane and the russian kilo class submarine that india uses sucks, because the use of different comms in use in different vessels. Now they're somehow trying to iron out this issue between P8 Neptune and vishakapatnam by incorporating local made in india systems but again the submarine is being left out and only Navy surface ships uses local comms while both airforce and army uses Israeli and russian systems, which again creates hurdle in combined arms synergy.
I think the very fact that the higher end DDGs are good against all target types is what makes them good in the first place. Anti-air or missile defense is an important role, but so is anti-ship. The fact that the US lacks a modern supersonic anti-ship missile is kinda sad. The Harpoon II is just not a competitive missile in this decade.
@@theredbar-cross8515 The U.S. is even going the opposite direction of supersonic. The Navy is working on the VLS version of the LRASM subsonic low-RCS AShM. Also going to procure the Maritime Strike Tomahawk Block V. Shows the doctrinal differences between the U.S. and its adversaries.
Yeah, I think that's a useful additional content
Horizon and type 45 can't quad pack right? I don't really know if it can be put above Hobart.
Sylver a50 and a70 cannot quadpack.
They can, but was never done by France Italy or UK, pack 2 CAMM or CAMM-ER missiles in a Cell.
It was never done because, apparently, their navies prefer to have an Aster missile than 2 CAMM.
Even the Italian PPAs were equipped only with Aster-30 missiles...
I like your channel. and comments are fact based, and polite.
Kolkata Class is a workhorse but still had some areas to be improved further scheduled updates will be performed on it but all potential areas of flaws were identified and improved via the Vishakhapatnam Class Ship
Both are a force to be reckoned with
Its a beautiful ship. Whoever designed it did a great job.
謝謝！
Thanks friend!
The type 055 is beautiful!
没想到台独也是中共同路人啊 世界真魔幻
I truly appreciate the fact that you keep up the description and the vessels hard specs.
This is no doubt the most accurate, unbiased ranking in all of the TH-cam videos.
The Type 055 destroyer, in terms of missiles, radar, and warship electrical systems, is the most powerful and largest warship in the world today! Moreover, I would like to emphasize that it is also the most aesthetically pleasing warship. Truly, its appearance is exceptionally beautiful!
Ppp
The Type 055 looks good will be brilliant at takeaway deliveries as China,s fleet is coastal and not a blue water fleet and the crew have very little warfare training so they are ver limited. It will look fantastic at the bottom of the pacific. Oh shit they don’t have that ability
@@sandysimpson9615 Hahahahaha, it's truly laughable to say that the Type 055 can't reach the Pacific! As early as 2021, a Chinese naval fleet entered the exclusive economic zone off Alaska, which included the Type 055 Destroyer 'Nanchang'. Your comment comes across as an impotent person accustomed to attacking others due to a sense of deep-seated inferiority. It's both pitiful and hilarious😄
It's actually a crusier
@@sandysimpson9615 lol, very sour of you😂
Good content. As always. Your content is objective and unbiased.
In terms of destroyer fleet strength, there's no doubt the US Navy is the top with near 100 ABs and Ticons. China Type 055 is most powerful because of its radar of x/s band that has some anti-stealth/anti-satellite capability, and hypersonic anti ship ballistic missile YJ-21.
Flight 1 of AB and Ticon are obsolete. Their Aegis systems are quite far behind compared to 052d and 055 respectively. Flight 3 is just being introduced but the hull design is getting old ... some questioned the ability of the generators to provide full power to the radars and sensors...
@@cj64343 but the rate of AB replacement cannot be compared to the speed of PLA building their 052D and 055.. in China they have a saying that building warships is like wrapping dumplings and drop them into the water...
It’s not just the ship, it’s also the crew, operations, communications, mission planning, support, leadership and institutional knowledge. The first time China’s navy conducts a combat mission will be its first.
@@CorePathwayTrue. The China fan club doesnt seem to understand experience matters. Their ships may be very good but they dont have a modern tradition of fighting around the globe.
Do you have a video about most advance Electronic Countermeasures on ships?🤔
We use for defense not for invasion and bullying others.
US and some western countries bully only small and poor country 😅
Thats what they said!
100% Agree 👍 good 👍 job 👍 👏
Please do Frigates as well
Off topic, but have the CV 16 Liaoning and the CV 17 Shandong carried out any joint training exercises yet?
I believe that the carriers and the Type 075 LSH have been seen together, but has anyone seen photos of the carriers together?
Nope. I think it is not meant to work together, they are supposed to do their own stuff separately. Like surrounding Taiwan from all directions to do a blockade or other stuff like that. Seeing two carriers in the same one photo would be pure photo ops, even for USA, since they would have to be super close together for that to be possible, and that would only happen if one was leaving dock and other returning or something like that. Otherwise it would also be a danger to the planes flying, taking off and landing etc, and would also make it vulnerable to a big bomb, like one tactical nuke can just take out two carrier groups.
Why does that matter, both can comminicate with each other. i.e. Ship A works with Ship C AND Ship D works with Ship E
Means A, C, D & E can work with each other as they follow same protocols.
What's your take on "Not What You Think"s recent video saying hypersonic missiles are pointless?
That channel makes some interesting points, but you can never take his conclusion seriously.
Oversimplified to the point of wrong. NWYT fell on the recent trend that I've noticed of swinging all the way from the "theyre completely unstoppable, turn on a dime and are completely invisible" nonsense to the less stupid but still wrong "they can barely turn, are as visible as BM and just as easy to stop, blind too, useless"...
To explain myself, they are first of all two kinds of weapons: Hypersonic Glide Vehicles and Hypersonic Cruise Missiles:
HGV are basically BM that fly low-er- (upper atmo instead of above low orbit) and have lift, thus are hard-er- to see and .-more- maneouverable than the ballistic counterparts; which given they are about as agile and subtle as a brick with a rocket engine, it doesnt mean that much in absolute terms...
The HGV is just a ballistic missile warhead that's better across the board but nothing new from a strategic point of view... It does the same job of going big, high and fast, but better (more (not very!) stealthy and maneouverable).
By the way, these are the ones which suffer from plasma sheathing, and it's not that big of a deal given that ballistic missiles with terminally guided warheads do exist...
HCM are, as the name says, cruise missiles that just go fast. As they go very fast (tho not as fast as HGV or BM), they cant turn as tightly as a slow CM and they must go at relatively high altitude (around the stratosphere) not to heat too much their air breathing engines. Therefore, they bridge the gap between the lightning fast ballistic missiles and the agile, stealthy and flexible cruise missiles, not better than either in their own category.
That middle ground of speed and flexibility does open new tactical oportunities, for example time sensitive targets that cant wait an hour for a normal cruise missile and need a bit more subtlety than a ballistic one. HCM wont replace either big and fast BM or slow and nimble CM, but they're to be used alongside them as a weapon to fill that specific niche in the awkward middle between the two.
that's channel sucks ngl
Glad you omitted Zumwalt from the list.
quite fair narrative
An interesting note to make is the effectiveness of higher VLS counts. Some have argued that beyond a certain point the need for more becomes moot. The Sejong the Great is an example of this in that the newer variants under construction have reduced their VLS count.
South Korea's new Aegis destroyer reduces the number of cells in large VLS towers, twice the size of existing VLS, and operates a variety of supersonic, hypersonic and ballistic missiles
Have you any links to arguments contending that more VLS become moot at some point? To me it seems obvious that more is always better, if for no other reason than to be able to saturate enemy defenses with offensive missiles or have the ammo to deal with saturation attacks defensively.
@@panpiper Reducing the number of missiles is not related to the number of missiles, but to the place of residence
@@oaao3387 Huh? Was this intended to mean anything?
@@panpiper it’s a good question, but no. The Sejong the Great is the most proof I have. Remember that number of VLS cells can still be more if you build more smaller ships. That’s what the PLAN is doing with the Type 052DL. It only has 75 VLS but if you make enough of them you have a similar number of VLS, and they’re more decentralized so if you lose one ship you don’t lose as much capability.
055 is so beautiful!
it sure is
Great Video
should it be call 052DL? following chinese convention it is more reasonable to call it 052DG.
Could you do a video about the building plan for 055? Like how many are they going to build in total
At least 16, the next batch of eight will likely be the “B” variant, with potentially another eight, possibly “C” variant.
@@JD-dm1uj excited to see that. Thanks mate
@@JD-dm1uj I think the next batch is 055A, then 055B, then C. Most likely 32 ships, or even a D series.
@@jzNottobee That would be an incredibly impressive feat, 32 055s would be an enormous capability!
limt 29-32
Muy buen video, con excelentes imagenes e informacion. 👏👏👏👏👍
If you're going to put the 12,000 ton Type 55 on the list, I don't see why the 9,500 ton Ticonderogas shouldn't also be considered. The type 55 maybe called a destroyer but by any measurement it is a guided missile cruiser.
So Burk flight 2 and 3 3 is an cruiser? And Zumwalt, Sejong the grate? Atago, Maya, Kongo are cruisers?
Even Kidd class.
All cruisers according to your logic?
The Ticonderoga is old. The Burk Flight II and III are much more advanced. So even if you count Ticonderoga, despite its big, it won’t make it to the top 5.
I am generally going by what the countries themselves class the ships. Unless if the ship obviously does not serve a destroyer function, like the helicopter destroyers of the JMSDF. As always with rankings, it's pretty subjective. If you make a video on your own ranking, I'm sure it will look different.
@@EurasiaNaval exactly also america has the gal to call the type 55 a cruiser because its large (even though it performs the exact role of a destroyer and not even that much larger) and then call the Zumwalt a destroyer when its way larger than the type 55 AND was designed to perform a completely different role to any other destroyer. its the most brain dead shit i have ever seen and so many people just go along with it.
The Ticonderogas are going out of service, so forget about them.
Number 10...HORIZON class or Fremm adopted and built by the US become the Constellation class and classified as frigates. Its tonnage is about half of that of Burke class.Likewise, the 055 and Se jong could be classified as cruisers just like the Zumwalt. Ironically, the Tico class, only slightly heavier than the Burkes are cruisers
Seems the line is blurred nowadays between cruisers, destroyers and frigates.
The superiority of these ships is not proven until gunfights so the argument which one is the best is totally moot.
Class isn't really determined by size alone but instead what their purpose is. Like, you can't exactly call a small landing craft (~250 tons) a coastal patrol boat just because of its size.
I like to watch your channel your content is very objective. I would like to see the top ten frigates in the world, the top ten conventional submarines in the world, and the top ten LHDs in the world.
Thanks friend. Suggestions noted
Interesting video, and nice to see a ranking that doesn't put the Arleigh Burke on top for once XD. I would have liked to see a little bit more explanation for why you placed them as you did in the ranking, saying why you think one is better than the other, but other than that it was a good watch. Maybe you could rank frigates or corvettes next?
there are nothing called "flaws". its just upgrades. a new generation warship comes out doesn mean the previous generation had "flaws".
@@rohitb5834 ?
@@kapitankapital6580 oops, wrong comment
Love to see 3 class of destroyers on the JMSDF navy
How about the Akizuki class it is still one of the most powerful destroyers in the Japanese Navy
Good videos! Thank you! Btw, that guy sounds like a guy who translated the videos/movies in Russia in the 90's. :-) Only he speaks English. Maybe it's his son...
This video is actually genuinely underated and this is actually the actual real China that the actual American and British BBC propaganda mainstream media actually don't show you is actually really like and actually capable of actually doing
I suspect that when shooting starts, the VLS count is going to be deciding factor in combat. The first to run out of missiles will be the first to lose.
Korea has just launched a new larger destroyer this year, which seems to be close to the Chinese Type 055.
Is that the Batch II of the Sejong the Great? Interesting!
@@EurasiaNaval Yes, I believe it is KDX III Batch 2
Japan will build a new 20000 tons destroyer too.
我们中国的055不值一提，不用担心，你们的舰更厉害，特别是韩国和印度的军舰，都是征服宇宙级的👍
@@翱儿 加鸡腿，尤其是印度的驱逐舰，会潜水还会飞，还能冲向太空。
China💪👍
India
India still has a long way to go
HMS Duncan is one of the best
The Indian destroyer is a beautiful ship. I dont know how it looks on the inside but its very well designed on the outside.
The age of ship plays a big factor, with latest tech no brainer.
Why would the type 055 be above in power to the alrieght burke flight 3
More VLS cells; stealthier; better anti-ship missiles; much higher level of redundancy; arguably better radar.
It has hyper sonic Missile
Very good assessment !
good list 👍
The description says "Rankings are produced according to a combined assessment of their anti-surface, anti-air, anti-submarine capabilities, and cost-effectiveness."
And yet its one of the most rubbish ranking i have ever seen.
I mean if i have to give a score out of 10 to Anti surface capability, Anti air and ASW capability resp...to Vishakapatnam Class and Atago class......what would be their Total score out of 30 points?
And cost effectiveness? Atago costed 1.48 Bil$ , each ship, as of 2009 money.
Vishakapatnam costed 1.1 Bil$ each ship as of 2021 money.
Yeah, heights of rubbishness!
Sorry to hear
Good points.
a question. where is the uss zumwalt?
it is a big white elephant
Very good program. It certainly seems that bigger ships in this group, have a much heaver armament and would be much more dangerous and have a much better survival rate. number one in the group, is in a different class, to number ten. I wonder if Russia has anything worth talking about.
With regard to Russia, it's hard to justify putting their Udaloys and Sovremennys alongside other ships on the list. If this was a frigate ranking, it would look very different.
Great comparision video.
Vishakhapatnam class have Brahmos which is fastest cruse anti ship missile on earth and non of them ( 7-2 ) except Chinese 055 have any equivalent or more powerful anti ship Missile then brahmos aslo barak 8 which is developed by india and israel is one of the most advanced air defence system for navy ships available i think you give ranking on the basis of ships displacement now on the basis of technology
he is Chinese.
055 have hypersonic antiship missile your brahmos no match😊
@@Save831It's embarrassing for Arleigh Burke who carries a tomahawk so the 055 is no match😂😂
indian destroyer uses the 90-100km variant of Barak 8 missile..not the 150km variant
kolkata class use 100 km barak 8 but visakhapatnam use barak 8 er 150 km
Barak-8ER (Extended range ) 150km range
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Thanks man!
i still have no idea that the type 055/future 055A has the most cheap and very ideal price for that kind of size, fire power and capability, making very easy to mass produce and low cost manufacturing and also catch up the quantity of western ship easily
Honestly this is the scariest thing about Chinese ships, if the price is to be believed then they're just going to be able to outproduce the United States in a conflict scenario. It will be like the Pacific War but this time the US is Japan.
@@kapitankapital6580 The US has already pulled back to the 2nd island chain. I think the message is clear. a direct naval confrontation with China is not a viable strategy. but rather let Taiwan and Japan possibly South Korea counter China is more reasonable.
@@eternalobi I don't think either the US or China, for all their furor, want a war. I suspect that we'll see China make a push with something like a naval blockade of Taiwan, and while the US will complain and maybe even try to send weapons, they won't risk sending their own ships into the area. I think ultimately this conflict will end with both sides sitting down and acknowledging Taiwan becoming part of China under One Country Two Systems. If the US is smart they'll negotiate this sooner rather than later to get compromises like China recognising Japanese sovereignty over the Senkaku Islands, which will help stabilise East Asia in the long run.
@@eternalobi you forgot North Korea and Russia in this scenario.
@@eternalobi You are right😂
Wheres the zumwalt class destroyer
That thing is a failure design
A paper tiger
@@TaoHu-ri4mhit's china it's paper tiger😂
I thought it would be another 055 is lousy copycat of Burke, turns out I'm wrong. It's good to see normal people on TH-cam, your channel restored a little bit of my faith in humanity.
@eurasianavalinsight love your vids!
I do think you forgot the Zumwalt class? I'm not forn the US but I think if they receive there new Ballistic missles, they will be very powerfull :)
Hey Sam, it's a fair question. Ranking is always quite subjective. If I were to consider only capabilities, Zumwalt would rank fairly well on the list, but from a cost-to-capability standpoint, it is hard to justify ranking it ahead of other ships. For the cost of one Zumwalt, you can buy more than two Burkes, which are individually more capable. That's my reasoning.
@@EurasiaNaval Hi, very understandable! I didn't know you were also looking at costs. I do really like your videos, keep up the good work! You're on of the best and most thorough on this ubject ;)
@@samwouters9984 Hey Sam, thanks so much for your support!
Right . Zumwalt should be top 2.
055 is so amazing and so huge，very beautiful
USS ZUMWALT: Where am I they don’t know my secret weapons
pretty wrong ranking, south korea destroyer can not be at 2nd place, its radar and weapons are outdated US systems, US did not provide them to south korea compared to japan, it is just big , the so called VLS on south korean ship, more than 2/3 is empty because south korea has no good missiles , even it claims it has domestic built ones, also 052d is better than US burke class, at least at same level. the radar and anti ship missile is definitely more advanced than burke
It's a fair perspective
zumwalt class?
Lacks a volume search radar, so it only has self-defense level AA capability. Has only 60 VLS cells despite being larger than the Type-055 for whatever frickin' reason. Has mediocre anti-ship capability.
Is this Dung Tran?
No.
Hobart class= F100 class alvaro de bazan... The original is the Spanish F100, both of Spanish manufacturing, the Australian frigate was called the Horbat class, for Cesar what belongs to Cesar
Voice is a cross between James Earl Ray and Arnold.
a similar list on frigates ? (frigates less than 6k ton displacement)
I rank the _Arleigh Burke_ class above the _Sejong the Great_ class. I feel most people rank them the contrary. I don't blame them; on paper, it does seem that with 128 VLS cells vs. 96 cells, it's a foregone conclusion to pick the STG.
But that's just hardware. Looking past that, you find out the STG class uses only Aegis Baseline 7. This leaves the class unable to perform Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD)-the ability to conduct both anti-air warfare (AAW) and Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) simultaneously. The latest _Burke_s on the other hand are equipped with Aegis BMD 5.1 Baseline 9 out of the factory. KDX III Batch II will rectify this by using Aegis Baseline 9, but at the cost of having only 88 VLS cells-yep, from 128 to 88, a 31% decrease.
This is the importance of software. ROK is willing to trade 31% of the VLS depth for Aegis IAMD capability.
And this alone makes the AB Flight IIA the better choice with 96 cells. Flight III _Burke_s with AN/SPY-6(V)1 and Baseline 10 is overkill competition for the STG class.
You can get into even more technical stuff by for example comparing the EW capabilities. Not much is known about the STG's LIG Nex1 SLQ-200K Sonata EW suite, but it's almost certainly not on par with the US's Surface Electronic Warfare Improvement Program (SEWIP), which is procuring the SLQ-32(V)6 and (V)7.
I found it odd the disparity in ranking between the Horizon class and the Type 45 class. They're actually similar ships as they were the result of the Common New Generation Frigate program between France, Italy, and the UK (UK withdrew to make their own Type 45). I might rank Horizon above the Type 45 because the Type 45 is purely an AAW destroyer whereas the Horizon class is multirole. The British like to argue their Type 45 is better than the _Arleigh Burke_ class. You have to admit the Type 45 is probably the best AAW destroyer class in the world, but the reality is that's the only thing it can do. And only 48 cells isn't great.
The Type 055 class is looking very very nice on paper. Great VLS count, signature reduction, AESA radar, and a killer sex appeal. Looking at the armament, there's some points of concern. It uses the HHQ-9 SAM, definitely an older weapon. It's undeniably inferior to the American Standard Missile family or the Franco-Italian Aster family. Sub Brief just did a video where he says the HHQ-9 can't even engage sea-skimming anti-ship missiles. (th-cam.com/video/cZfETzFEqF0/w-d-xo.html) Now I'm doubtful to believe that, but it definitely struggles to engage sea-skimmers. This means the ancient American Harpoon could _theoretically_ take out the Type 055.
Actually, the S-300 which the HHQ-9 is based on struggles against sea-skimmers-demonstrated by a certain ship recently converted to submarine duty. It's possible the Chinese have updated the missile's software to counter the decades-old Harpoon. Meanwhile, the US has the RIM-162 ESSM, quad-packable and purely designed to kill supersonic sea-skimmers like the YJ-18 in its terminal phase.
Whatever counterpart of Aegis the Chinese have-"Chinese Aegis"-definitely has promise, but as of right now the Aegis Combat System is still second to none, developed from decades of real experience dating back to the early Cold War. We're not sure if China even has equivalent capability to Aegis IAMD. They need time to develop the experience needed to get on par.
So, with armament and sensors and processing systems galore in mind, here's my subjective (and probably highly controversial) ranking (some classes from same country omitted):
10. _Udaloy_-class destroyer - Udaloy II variant (gotta get the Russians in here somehow)
9. _Visakhapatnam_-class destroyer
8. _Hobart_-class destroyer
7. Type 052D destroyer - 052DL variant
6. _Sejong the Great_-class destroyer - Batch II variant
5. Type 45 destroyer
4. Horizon-class destroyer
3. _Maya_-class destroyer
2. Type 055 destroyer
1. _Arleigh Burke_-class destroyer - Flight III variant
Regarding why I put the _Burke_ above the Type 055, remember this is based on the current state as of 2022-2023. Weapons and sensors and processing systems aside, the Type 055 is obviously better. But a warship is more than the hull and superstructure. Until China matures their systems, the American class of tin cans is my #1. (if you made it this far then thanks for reading an armchair analyst's two cents)
Love it when people write such huge comments and then make a funnyass ranking at the end. lol
@@rohitb5834 🤭 I thought missiles are the strong points of Chinese equipments all the long range, AI enabled precision stuff ... to a point all, US president pressure Chinese electronic companies, lure TSMC build advanced chip plants in the US
this guy clearly has no idea what he is talking about
Type 52D and Type 055 uses the improved HHQ-9B variant with longer range and active radar homing
But there’s no Flight -3 AB in service isn’t it ?
Ranking is subjective. In terms of the number of VLS cells, Sehjong class destroyers is number 1, with Type 055 at 2nd and Burke at 3rd. If Tico is included then Tico would replace Type 055 at 2nd. In terms of radar, Burke Flight II and Flight III with SPY-6 is 1st, while Type 055's Type 346B radar and European SMART-L radar tied at 2nd, Type 052D's Type 346A and SPY-1 for 3rd. In terms of offensive weapons, Type 055 at 1st IF it is equipped with YJ-21 while Burke at 2nd, Maya at 3rd followed by Sehjong at 4th. In terms of defense Burke and Maya at 1st, Atago at 2nd, and Sehjong at 3rd.
Great video. YJ-21 are on 052D and 055.
great video. can you please also make one for fighter jet for 2023?
Thanks. I am a bit reluctant to do one on jets, because I know a lot less about them than ships, to be honest
In my opinion, the Zumwalt was the first, followed by the Type 055, then the Sejong, then the Atago, then the Arleigh Burke.
lol
I actually genuinely agree with you @@ParaSF-im8kn
@@RADICALFLOAT_95 lol ur funny. its just that all these Chinese comments dont deserve a proper reply.
@@ParaSF-im8kn get a life for once you racist
The Zumwalt is a pape tiger
Kalau saya menilai destroyer bobot penuh muatan - kosngnya, cms radar jangkauanya dan seatle juga vls yang di bawa, dan juga SAM nya,,, jelas arleigh usa adalah yang 1¹
Also can you do top ten best frigates
With all this fire power between fawls,war is eminent.
Type 055 is the best.
the Ausatralian Hobart class was actually designed with the concept of being a better warship than the Arleigh Burkes of the USA IT IS NOT CONJECTURE either , as the brief was just that, It carries most of the same systems. The Chinese classes consideration is based on specs that are not really known, but you can't write them off, although I personally think the British ships seem to be the best but every last vessel listed here is basically a match for every other one,
In fact, the Type 052D destroyer as an air defense capital ship plays a huge role in the fleet. It can not only carry a variety of missiles, but most of them are air defense missiles
HHQ-9 &HHQ-10? with only two kinds of missile，052d plays a huge role in the fleet as an air defense capital ship ？thats definitely a joke.
@no_name11111yes，Chinese bullets do not kill， enjoy
@@树心旁-p4b 052D在航母编队中，确实是防空主力舰……
@@yiju8314 那防空手段也太少了，漏洞很大
its automated robot voice....
Great video as always. May Buddha bless you 🙏
how about uss zumwalt
Thing sucks.
升级版055a排水量1.8万吨212导弹发射单元2024下水
搞那么大干什么 还不如搞两条052d
To put it simply, the most powerful guided missile destroyers are those of the aegis warships, basically with the really powerful complex and efficient combat system that connects the spy-1 type radar with the computer to automatically launch the surface to air missile quickly at incoming anti ship missiles or enemy aircraft, that’s basically the aegis combat system in basic terms right?
Did you watch the video? Type 55 was number 1, Burke/sejong was number 3/2.
Type 055 was number 1, aka the best destroyer currently.
@@ex0duzz doesn’t the Type 055 count as an Aegis warship?
@@moalzaben5554 not when he specifically mentions spy-1 radar. If he said aegis like, sure. But he specifically mentions spy -1 which shows he's talking about not type 55
@@ex0duzz yeah I understand because spy-1 radar is equipped on American, Japanese, Australian, Spanish, South Korean and Norwegian aegis warships
@@moalzaben5554 No. The SPY-1 radar is an older PESA radar. Similar advanced combat management system are provided on the Vishakapatnam and Kolkata Class as well, but they have even more advanced AESA radar when it comes to tracking.
where is petr the great and ticendiroga ??
Those are cruisers, not destroyers.
想想北洋水师那些巨舰，还有俾斯麦舰大和舰谢菲尔德及最近的彼得大帝，战争从来都是科技和实力综合考量，武器只有用对了才有威力，不然投得越多输得越多。
Sejong the Great-class destroyer 😅😅
a bulky dwarf
It is a top tier destroyer and as far as I know, ROK Navy had launched the next generation Aegis destroyer.
笑死，雷达用的是美国SPY-1D
All western bias aside this is big like a cruise ship , Not stealthy like a Burke Class . What you call bullying, we call policing 🎉🎉😂😂 the world’s Oceans …
I am surprise none of the Russian destroyer make it to the top 10?
Russian destroyers are a bit old imo, but if this was a frigate list, there would be quite a few Russian ships
They might make it in the future with their Lider-class destroyers. If they ever going to build them.
Yes because Russia doesn't have new destroyer at this moments! the LIDER Class Destroyer is the New Generation Destroyer of Russia but not yet build, the New Warships of Russia is RF ADMIRAL GORSHKOV Class FRIGATE and She is Dangerous FRIGATE because of ZIRCON Hypersonic missile installed. And also KIROV CLASS BATTLECRUISER RF ADMIRAL NAKHIMOV under upgrade is have also ZIRCON Hypersonic missile, is back in duty by next year,
Gorshkov is comparable to smaller destroyers like Horizon but it is a frigate. 2nd batch of Gorshkov will have more vls.
@@filipzietek5146 yes brother RF ADMIRAL GORSHKOV CLASS FRIGATE She is powerful and Dangerous FRIGATE opponent of All Western Countries Navy! she is Stealth Also,
If Zumwalt a cruiser or destroyer? If a destroyer than it’s #1.
Can you tell me why? It has 36 less VLS cells than Arleigh Burke despite being much larger. Lacks a volume search radar, so it only has self-defense level AA systems. Has mediocre anti-ship capability if any.
Realy I like this powerful destroyers
I must admit china has clearly been working hard for sea domination and deserves top spot