History Was Just Made In Legend of Dragoon Speedrunning
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The Legend of Dragoon Glitchless speedrun just had its final barrier completely shattered. Here's the history of how it all happened.
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Resources:
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Character Statistics:
www.rpgplace.net/lod/characters/
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Music:
Legend of Dragoon - Royal Castle
FFX - Beyond The Darkness
Pokemon XD Gale of Darkness - ONBS Building
OneShot - On Little Cat Feet
SMT Nocturne - Ikebukuro
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles - Sleeping Treasure In The Sand
.Hack Infection - Forest Field (Variation)
SMT IV - Traffic (Arcade Town)
Legend of Dragoon - Divine Tree
Axium Waves - Lost in Hyperspace
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team - Buried Relic
Sea of Stars - Traversing The Cerulean Expanse
Legend of Dragoon - Ancient Wingly City - เกม
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This game was an insanely large part of my childhood. Me and my dad would make jokes about each other saying the other would need a wargod calling to do basic things irl. "You need a wargod calling to open a door" just silly things. If i would have known id be losing my dad this year, I would have definitely tried to play thru this game with him one more time. I miss him so much.
Thank you for sharing. I love hearing stories about how LoD impacted peoples' childhoods, especially since it was a huge part of my own. Anyways, sorry for your loss and I hope your next playthrough goes okay
man i love it when something leads to runners beating the game in just under 2 and a half hours over the course of a year
Game was atrocious. Lmfao nobody cares
Yet you're here...
Game was amazing, I care and I'm glad the game still gets seen. 👾🤟
I definitely prefer not speedrunning though..it was much better to enjoy at my own pace.
@@TheMaddenGuy1speak for yourself loser who pays for essentially the same game every year.
@@TheMaddenGuy1 assuming you're a troll, but it's funny hearing a fan of a game series that's literally the same copypasted garbage every year try to trash a cult classic game
Gust of Wind of Dance!
Oh Albert…
I much preferred Lavitz, but Albert grew into his own role / party member in time, and I'm sure the combat experience was useful for him as a prince or person of nobility who would return to lead his country.
"Gust of wind Dedance" fixed it for you. Lol
@@Nomadmandude lol. I didn't even realize OP said "Gust of Wind of Dance."
Albert does really over enunciate the "d" at the end of wind.
The older my hands get, the happier I am to hear that people were argueing to allow turbo to be kind to runner's hands.
I had the perfect method, you take your controller with both hands and put the button you intend to rapidly press on the tip of your nose lightly and then flex your arms extremely tightly to rapidly shake the controller pressing the button on your nose as fast as possible, I usually can reach the 268% on spell items.
My cousin would use a penny and would move it like you’re scratching a lottery ticket to click fast
Considering how lengthy this game is, it's amazing its community pushed the record below ten hours and keep optimizing it. What a feat, thanks Doc ✌🏼
FFX runners feel this comment
@@enoyna1001Yeah, it's brutal. Past the 1st kissing scene, I already have far over 200 hours in (blind). With 0 Game Overs thus far, so I definitely can't stop now. I hope it gets much harder.
@@undyingsoul3949 My suggestion: Save before and first defeat the last boss, then start working on the side content afterwards. You'll get the full experience with the story and won't be OP for the final boss the first time around.
I immediately clicked when I saw the notification as legend of dragoon is one of my all time favorites, then you said you did another video on it before and I have to go watch it now 😒 it wouldn't feel right. I'll be back
Ok I'm back, we can continue now.
Turbo for mashing is definitely appreciated. Glad they allowed it for this game.
Great video, I'm happy someone was able to make a video showcasing all the effort and love that the Legend of Dragoon community put into this wonderful speedrun. Watching this game be brought down to sub 10 hours was a hell of a journey that I loved witnessing and participating in.
Hearing SDA in the past tense makes me feel old and sad
Props for including Deathtome. Severely underrated runner and all around good guy!
Thanks for your kind words!
@@Deathtome. Always buddy. Been watching you for well over 10 years (The other Chaos Legion fanatic, Arrogance only run when!?!).
He's done some awesome stuff in LoD.
I'll try it out this year and publish it on the other channel (Sieg Flockhart) just for you whenever I've done it. :) @@NightmareOni
@@Deathtome. Ohh don't go and butter me up with promises now haha. If it does happen, looking forward to it!
Man I loved this game growing up. Any combat system that engages the player in small ways (Super Mario RPG, Sea of Stars, LoD) makes the game infinitely more playable to me.
7:23
Fun fact.
That item is bugged in german. Once using that item, it asks you to pick a character to use it on, and once used, it crashes your game.
Iirc, the game thinks it's either an hp or mp recovery item. sonce, it has a similar name, then either of those healing items, but I can't remember what it was.
So if any germans eanna run that game, don't do it in deutsch.
Nice video bro. A minor note, I don't think deathtome even knew the talisman was there... He didn't skip it on purpose.
Huh I did not know that. I appreciate the correction there!
Haha, this is true. If I had known...@@DoctorSwellman
mein gott look at that handsome dude mash that button. 250% is impressive, I had to actively practice for like an hour to get above 220.
People from 1990 know how to mach button like crazy.
Just ask everyone who played ff8.
@@HeavenOnHigh Oh god I can hear the menu rapidly closing and opening while I'm spamming to pull up a limit break at full HP with Aura status in my BRAIN
THANKS.
Love your channel
Same, Casp has some great vids
I broke my PS2 not sticks for DBZ budikai lmao I also grew up playing ff8 and the legend of dragoon so I understand completely
i remember the first time i beat this game, i was wayyyyy underleveled. i did not know the mechanics to this extent and i was so weak going into the last boss that that fight took two hours, and it was essentially a 1v1 verus dart and melbu. gotta be one of the more memorable boss fights for me for that reason alone.
my first fight with the Divine dragon was similar. 1v1 dart guarding most turns and poking when safe. took over an hour and it was supper time, mom wasn't pleased.
A new TH-cam about LoD… AND it’s interesting / new? Holy crap I’m in.
This video is so cool. I love this game. One of my favorites of all time. When I was a kid I remember seeing people posting on forums and making guides about challenge runs. I remember one in particular was beating the game in 24 hours with no dragoons and thinking that it was physically impossible haha. All of my JRPG playthroughs back then were like 80-100+
Very nice, but split second with that title I was thinking of a remake XD
Not me thinking a remake was getting announced lol cool to see more LoD
dude i was hitting 268% on multi items when it first came out. i always knew that i had a unique tapping style, it doesn't mean much today but it definitely gave me an edge back in the day when you had a mash a button as quickly as possible
Timing is best skill check
I personally hate "mash until your fingers fail you" in games
When there's only a small time window it kinda balances out.
The old Dragon Ball games? Now you probably understand me!
XD
The friend no one wanted to play Mario Party with
@@RadiusIgnus in my case i aquired the skill in the atlanta olympic game on the sega genesis. it was at that house everyone would hang at and play games, and of course they all wanted to learn it so a group of us was just able to pump out world record times on command lol
Another absolute banger from the Doctor! Glad to see a game I've spent quite a few runs on making it into the series!
The acceptance of turbo controller as the norm sounds godsent in a 10 hour RPG speedrun full of mashable textboxes where the means of damaging your enemies is either button mashing or additions which is basically a rhythm game
Another well made, beautifully edited video by the Doc! Keep it up, proud of you!
4x the rate for going down-left!? Holy crap.
The menu theme and Boss Battle 3 music are funky as heck.
Use to watch someone named Dejumbi speed run this game and absolutely loved his videos and channels. If you're out there Dejumbi I hope you're doing well!
Hope you are still doing Swell man. I'm an older viewer from Twitch and really enjoyed watching your EarthBound speed runs back in the day. I look forward to every video of yours and this one was great to show my wife who is a big time TLOD fan. Be Swell. ✌
SWELL MAN
DB! Thank goodness it’s you and not your evil doppelgänger!
Cheers
Always fun when i recognize a name from ouraide of speedrunning. Shout out to Raelcun for his starcraft casting.
ok i' share the tech, put a thumb on each half of the X button, shake the controller from left to right causing your two thumbs to mash the X button as quickly as possible. this ALWAYS gets me a 268% on multis. if i use one thumb i get like 255% consistently, but i need the second thumb to push it to the limit.
Explosion! rrrrRaaaaaaaAaa!
Never played the game, barely heard of it but boy do I love your vids, 5/5 would watch again
Ah man it's a classic, coming from someone who's hard to impress with turn based RPGs. 🤙
14:17 .hack music ❤
Sick vid
Off topic, but hearing that .Hack music brought a smile to my face.
I just bought this game at a swap meet. I got to play it sometime soon.
Love the choice of ffx music 🤘🏻
I'm suprised any% glitchless allows a glitch lol.
I'm not. So many "glitchless" categories actually allow multiple major glitches it's become an actual joke in the speedrun community.
Hey Lasagnaaammm, BDD, and Dillonwithablankie.
Sup
@@DillonWithaBlankie lasagn26Wave
Holy crap it's my most favorite ps1 games in my lifetime along with my final fantasy 7. I spent 211 hours on this game. I hope it gets a remaster like Square Enix did them (such as Star Ocean TSS R and Final Fantasy VII).
I watch speedrun updates more than the news
This is incredible!
Holy crap this game I haven’t thought about in almost 20 years 😯
Okay, it's about time I learn what the fast disc speed and "Diagnosis" do. I'm mostly playing on my PS2. What's best for the German PAL version of Final Fantasy X, I wonder.
I hear .Hack// ost. ❤
7:52 a video about speedrunning Legend of Dragoon but one of Oneshot's soundtrack is put at this moment?
👍
Criminaly underated game
Ayyy, Love the .Hack music. :)
Damn man don't be getting my hopes up I literally thought a sequel or remake from the thumbnail lol.
Wishing for a sequel to such a good game
Let's raise a boot to our fallen comrade even after all these years. We won't name him to avoid spoilers but anyone who played any part of this game knows who i mean.
this might be the push i need to play this
It was a really fun game when I played it with my friend 20 years ago
That game was a big time burner for me, I actually enjoy very long games. They make me feel as if I got my money's worth.
21:39 I am now irrationally pissed off
19:25 I did not quite get this: so you remove the FF7 disc during the PS1 logo screen, then place a LoD disc, and this will result in fast disc speed for LoD, without the potential for a softlock?
1. Power on your slim Playstation 2
2. Press Triangle twice (select Fast on Disc speed)
3. Insert any PS1 game that works with Fast disc speed (99.9% of games work).
4. Open disc tray once you see Playstation logo
5. Insert The Legend of Dragoon disc and enjoy full speed on any Slim console.
Info : If you own any PS2 slim with model number 77000 (or lower) the steps above are NOT necessary. Basically only the new consoles block Fast disc speed.
@@Deathtome. thanks! The reply couldn't get any more authentic now that I paid attention to your name 😆
man how i miss this game,
found in flea market, got for 7 bucks at 10? i think, 34 now.
loaned to my uncle, (all 4 disks) i finally received it back months later.
only 2 disks were there. (THE LAST TWO) needless to say.
never finished the game. did give a go at emulation, but
nothing could compare to what this game was in my childhood.
Truly wished they would remaster this in true HD fashion.
I absolutely hate turn based games aside from this, the OG FF7, and BG3.
Is it just me or the background music's volume too low? It's nice having the names of the songs appear during the video, but I honestly couldn't recognize anything because their volume is too low (I'm using headphones, btw).
Other than that, nice and informative video! 😆
I'm not sure what happened. It felt like the audio was overpowering me a lot in my editing software, so I turned it down a bit more this time around. Audio is hard haha
ya switching out meru for miranda was a really good movie, i don't understand why being stuck on meru was such a thing anyways as she is too weak for her speed to mean much. shana/miranda on the otherhand really pump the numbers out with attack items
Wait, 10 hours? That’s wild. So, are bathroom breaks allowed? How does that work? So many questions haha. fr, great job on this video! 👏👏👏
Of course, you plan your food and hydration beforehand and just run to the bathroom extremely fast
Not to brag or anything but BDD is my roommate. We we're all pretty hype when he got the WR the first time.
Nice. Ever tell him to try speed running the dishes?
My favorite game of all time. I hate how late this game came out in the PS1 lifecycle. It could have been a franchise similar to Final Fantasy. I’ve replayed it from time to time when I had my ps4. I spent many hours on this game. I hope it gets a remake or a new game similar to how FF7 remake was.
Wait how da hell do theyvget above 180 percent. I swear i broke the button the one time i got 190
neat
Lavitz 😢
So where is the official prequel so we can break video game history😊
Oof. I apparently could never speed run dragoon because I was always terrible at hashels attacks.
why add that sound for my boy Lavitz.....
But I don't waaaannaaaa play Legend of Dragoon again, I'm busy stumbling my way through Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song Remastered
Pew pew 🎉
Lavitz still died of Ligma, so sad!
Dragoons suck? In Legend of Dragoon? That's unfortunate
Deathtome is a gomer, bro just don't log in.
Nani 😮
Yeah that’s cool but how about that remake?
How the hell does someone realize they need to save over a Megamall or metal gear file to get this to happen? I'll never understand how people figure this shit out. Why would anyone even think that would even be an option?
There are probably more possibilities out there. Blackdeathdoom bought a used memory card with those saves (copied to another memory card) and noticed it worked. The previous solution was get a brand new memory card never used, but that was not sustainable. Honestly, could have been other game saves on that memory card, doesn't have to specifically be those but those are indeed working (have not tried many other saves yet). Once you deleted those save files the memory card act as a new memory card; which was necessary for that specific category.
@@Deathtome. but how does someone even know that deleting any save files would do this?
That part is not even mysterious. You need a brand new memory card (or one that never played Dragoon before go run the category. Removing the saves aren't a necessity just makes saving faster. You just needed to find a way to make the memory card not remember any Dragoon save ever being there. Overwriting enough times until it forgets. I think you just need 1 or 2 saves from another game and delete them for it to work. So this is not optimal at all, but the first and only reliable way found. Nonody tried improving it since to find easier method or different ways. If it works it works.@@ericmcmanus5179
i was here
so wait, which console ended up being the fastest?
Without disc swapping 75000 and 77000 models, but all slim models are able to play the game fast if you swap the disc at Playstation logo. Which is something discovered about 2 years ago. Before you kinda had to have a specific slim model (75k/77k).
Maynard has inspired me in so many ways, and turned me on so many artists. Hope you continue these interviews!
Also, I hope you grow to see the genius that opens to us if (and when) we work with A.I.
"Stay hydrated folks." ... as I am eating general tsos chicken, lo mein, egg rolls, and drinking a coke.
We used to dump onto Google Video back in those days. Yes, indeed - once upon a time YT was its very own item and Google did not own them. YT was still the "be there or be really square and weird and awkward and unlikely to get any clicks on your video even if it's on dailymotion or vimeo or that other place or that one other place or stage6 or"
Sooooo only using items to attack instead of using god modes? Might as well call this the Ten Ten speedrun 😅
My last playthrough, including all the optional stuff, went over 200 hours (Melbu Frahma included). I thought this was the longest game ever, but with Final Fantasy X, I'm far over 200 hours past the first kissing scene alone (still blind). Boy... But no Game Over yet. Makes me want to continue even more.
i don't agree with doing a single run live then deleting your stream. like what do you do then, unverified WRs is what.
The video is still up on my channel, but not the stream video (which had proof of me mashing and playing without a turbo controller). In other words webcam video is deleted, but isn't a requirement for the run to be legit anyway. Just extra proof for those who doubt the authenticity.
@@Deathtome. So the doubt was just the mashing without turns, weird. The techs are out there to do this stuff today it's not like it's some hidden secret.
What other people know this game exist.. wtf you all been
I always confuse this game with vagrant story
Dr swell, would you be willing to document my speedrun of [36 hours] SMRPG ARMAGEDDON - Hard Mode 100% speedrun?
Check out my uploaded footage so far. Im preparing to do another single segment attempt estimated at 25 hours
Okay, i got triggered when you said virage. Pronounce it like mirage lol.
Sounds boring af
They should add a category on speedrun called "Play the credits video on youtube" so people that don't want to play the game can trigger the credits by a less convoluted sequence of inputs and stop their timers when the video starts playing. They should add a consoleless, controllerless, handless and focusless restrictions so we know it is hard.
I think TAS should be the standard now.
speedrun's are a joke, as it's not speedruns, it's exploit runs.
Why do you think that? Genuinely curious
@@DoctorSwellman cause whole point of speedruns is to see how fast you can "play" a game not cheat your way through. and exploit's is cheating.
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thx do(g/c)
Unsubbed forever because sponsorship interrupting my video and overall ruining the once free and open internet.
Imagine complaining because someone needs to make money to live so they can make the 30 min video you watch for free.
@@dtsnelson If this is true then how is it possible anyone on here ever got any subscribers at all? There never used to be obligatory sponsors on everything. Now there is.
Imagine being an ad-loving bootlicker.
@@annyonny1224TH-cam got more crowded, TH-cam pays less per view then it used to, sponsors got more interested in youtube, etc. I'm sorry that the en$h1ttification of the internet is hitting TH-cam, but I don't blame Swellman for making a decision to take home a lot more money at the cost of a tiny percentage of those who don't use a relevant adblocker.
@annyonny1224 making money is not the same as having subscribers?
My brother and I were speed running this and other jrpgs in the early 00's. We didn't have Internet and it was just a competition between us. My best time was ~18 hours.