You say at one point that the car starts with just the laser cut metal key. Does that mean that the fob/chip is not required to start the car? I dropped my key and the fob fell apart, I put all the components back in and snapped it shut, but then I tried to start my 2006 Honda Pilot 2 hours later and it has plenty of juice but won't start. I assumed it must be the key fob since it ran fine and the only thing that happened was the fob fell apart. But then now I'm hearing yours starts fine with just the metal key part? So maybe I do have an engine issue. Can you just confirm that yours did start whether the key fob was together or not? Thanks!
Yes it starts with out key assembled. Fob must be in close proximity though. Look inside your key fob to see if the chip piece is still there. It is the small oval piece that I had to swap into my new fob. I am thinking when your key broke your transponder may have fallen out. Does the key light on the dash flash orange when it wont start? If so that may be the issue. Missing the security component to keep your car from being stolen. If you have AAA they will come programe a new key fob and all included in your membership. My dad has lost his honda keys 2x now. Paid for it self vs. towing his car.
There could be a handful of reasons. You might have got a defective one, you didn’t get it programmed correctly, or your memory could be full as these will only hold a certain amount of keys.
So the RFID & Transponders are a matched pair as best I know and have to be done at factory to best of my knowledge. I have had keys replaced via AAA when my dad lost his Honda Civic keys and they came out and made him a key and remote on the spot but I think that requires specific shop level hardware. It can take 2-3 attempts to get the new remote to pair if your timing is off so give it a couple try's. It sounds like you need to order a new key fob and program that fob to your vehicle, this is exactly what we did in the video. You can do that before you try to physically put them together. They do not need to be in same housing to work.
Thank you for the video. If the original transmitter wasn't working, how are you able to click the unlock/lock button to continue the reprogramming process? Does the reprogramming process work even though the transmitter does not? I'm having the exact same problem but mine will not go into the reprogramming mode which I thought was because the transponder didn't work at all. Let me know what you think.
What a great question. I think the terminology is tripping us up here. Let me see if I can clarify. The fob for my key was broken but not the transponder. I also had a spare key that still worked. The Transponder is the little oval shaped piece that is paired to the car for anti-theft and works in partnership with your lazer cut key. Look at min 7:50-8 to see what I mean. That was not lost or damaged for me although I did not know what it was at the start of this project. To answer your question and stay on topic, If you do not hear the door locks drop and engage when you are clicking it to the program cycle at the 1:30 -2:40 min mark on the 4th turn of key to on position you may have not triggered the sequence correctly. They turn to on and hit lock button 4 times is the sequence that is required from Honda. Hopefully this helps.
Im having the same issue with my 07 pilot, the buttons wont lock/unlock the door so the alarm goes off, and the red led is not illuminating even after new correct battery. Im surprised that the new key can be programed since the buttons aren't unlocking the doors. Thats the only part that is confusing me.
Thats a great question. You should be able to lock and unlock your doors manually with key by using it in lock and turning it and holding it for 1-2 seconds. If you look at the 5 min. mark in the video there is a small black part I point out may be the transponder. That is what I believe works in tandem with your laser cut key. The Key itself is cut to the car via the vin. number so all your doors & ignition match at factory. The transponder is paired to your cars PC separately from your actual fob/remote. What I am doing is pairing a new fob. That is why I had to Frankenstein the new keyfob to the old harware. Each car can only remember so many key fobs before you have to have honda reset it. AAA also will pair a new standalone fob if you loose your key for example. Best service I ever got my dad lol.
Hi Wallyo sorry we didnt respond sooner we missed this. When you loose the whole assembly, think it fell in the ocean lol or if your my dad you left them at a junk yard and cant find them. He has AAA and they have replaced his keys 2x for him included in his membership cost. It is likely too late now as post was a while back but if you ever have a repeat it sure is better than towing the car and paying for the keys from Honda dealership.
@momanddadmeetworld thank you so much for responding, i did purchase one already but I will keep that in mind if there's a next time lol Thank you so much for your videos :)
Hi, thank you for a great video, I am about to embark on a very similar effort. One question, did the new FoB key that you purchased from Amazon also come with a RFID transponder (the narrow rectangular block at the corner) similar to the original ones? If so I have a concern, I believe that there is some maximum limit (3?) on the number of RFID's that the car will memorize/recognize; if the limit is exceeded then it will overwrite one of the existing codes in the memory while programming. So, I am worried if my valet key will become inoperative (i.e, the starter will turn but the engine won't fire due to the immobilizer) after programming. So, my question is, are you now able to start your car with both of your working FoB keys as well as the valet key? Thanks for any advice. To be safe, an alternative that I am considering is to transplant the remote unit to the original key (with its original transponder) as you did, but before the programming part.
Great question, I honesty have not checked my valet key. (I don't even know if we still have it) You are 100% right on the limit. This isn't our first time we've programmed remotes to the car. We did the same with our Honda Fit. We normally have all keys that go to that car there when we add the remotes to the car just to be safe. We did the transplant method as we did not have our key cut. But the short of it is, no, I don't know if it will remove that valet key. Let us know and hope it goes well.
@@momanddadmeetworld Thank you. I too have all keys which came with the car, but the valet key has no buttons, so cannot be concurrently programmed as described; i.e., without the aid of expensive scanners. So, I was wondering if its transponder code would be automatically erased from memory during the re-programming sequence. But I will try to program after transplanting (only) the new remote to the original FoB key (with its original transponder that the car already knows about) - hopefully that is safe. I will report back for the benefit of other key programmers who may visit your page🙂 Thanks again!
Great job you could have still used the new buttons at least they would have been cleaned. If you get a chance to get a toothbrush or something and clean the gunk out of that remote
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CHM98WB7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Here's what we purchased, but you can search your make model year honda key fob replacement in the amazon search. Check out the highest ratings and reviews before you buy.
Did your car go into programming mode? Did you add a battery to the new remote if needed? If your car did not go into programming mode, the transponder could be full as only so many keys can be stored and I do not known what that number actually is. Sorry this is being difficult for you.
This is the only video that actually makes sense all the others are confusing.
Thank you for the nice words!
You say at one point that the car starts with just the laser cut metal key. Does that mean that the fob/chip is not required to start the car? I dropped my key and the fob fell apart, I put all the components back in and snapped it shut, but then I tried to start my 2006 Honda Pilot 2 hours later and it has plenty of juice but won't start. I assumed it must be the key fob since it ran fine and the only thing that happened was the fob fell apart. But then now I'm hearing yours starts fine with just the metal key part? So maybe I do have an engine issue. Can you just confirm that yours did start whether the key fob was together or not? Thanks!
Yes it starts with out key assembled. Fob must be in close proximity though. Look inside your key fob to see if the chip piece is still there. It is the small oval piece that I had to swap into my new fob. I am thinking when your key broke your transponder may have fallen out. Does the key light on the dash flash orange when it wont start? If so that may be the issue. Missing the security component to keep your car from being stolen. If you have AAA they will come programe a new key fob and all included in your membership. My dad has lost his honda keys 2x now. Paid for it self vs. towing his car.
I just bought 2 but only the one in the ignition synced
There could be a handful of reasons. You might have got a defective one, you didn’t get it programmed correctly, or your memory could be full as these will only hold a certain amount of keys.
Can the new RFID transponder be sinked with the ignitions, or is that an expensive process?
So the RFID & Transponders are a matched pair as best I know and have to be done at factory to best of my knowledge. I have had keys replaced via AAA when my dad lost his Honda Civic keys and they came out and made him a key and remote on the spot but I think that requires specific shop level hardware. It can take 2-3 attempts to get the new remote to pair if your timing is off so give it a couple try's. It sounds like you need to order a new key fob and program that fob to your vehicle, this is exactly what we did in the video. You can do that before you try to physically put them together. They do not need to be in same housing to work.
Thank you for the video. If the original transmitter wasn't working, how are you able to click the unlock/lock button to continue the reprogramming process? Does the reprogramming process work even though the transmitter does not? I'm having the exact same problem but mine will not go into the reprogramming mode which I thought was because the transponder didn't work at all. Let me know what you think.
What a great question. I think the terminology is tripping us up here. Let me see if I can clarify. The fob for my key was broken but not the transponder. I also had a spare key that still worked. The Transponder is the little oval shaped piece that is paired to the car for anti-theft and works in partnership with your lazer cut key. Look at min 7:50-8 to see what I mean.
That was not lost or damaged for me although I did not know what it was at the start of this project.
To answer your question and stay on topic, If you do not hear the door locks drop and engage when you are clicking it to the program cycle at the 1:30 -2:40 min mark on the 4th turn of key to on position you may have not triggered the sequence correctly. They turn to on and hit lock button 4 times is the sequence that is required from Honda. Hopefully this helps.
Im having the same issue with my 07 pilot, the buttons wont lock/unlock the door so the alarm goes off, and the red led is not illuminating even after new correct battery.
Im surprised that the new key can be programed since the buttons aren't unlocking the doors. Thats the only part that is confusing me.
Thats a great question. You should be able to lock and unlock your doors manually with key by using it in lock and turning it and holding it for 1-2 seconds. If you look at the 5 min. mark in the video there is a small black part I point out may be the transponder. That is what I believe works in tandem with your laser cut key. The Key itself is cut to the car via the vin. number so all your doors & ignition match at factory. The transponder is paired to your cars PC separately from your actual fob/remote.
What I am doing is pairing a new fob. That is why I had to Frankenstein the new keyfob to the old harware. Each car can only remember so many key fobs before you have to have honda reset it. AAA also will pair a new standalone fob if you loose your key for example. Best service I ever got my dad lol.
When i opened the key i believed i lost the little plastic piece with the chip in it, how can i get a new one? Thank u for your answer
Hi Wallyo sorry we didnt respond sooner we missed this. When you loose the whole assembly, think it fell in the ocean lol or if your my dad you left them at a junk yard and cant find them. He has AAA and they have replaced his keys 2x for him included in his membership cost. It is likely too late now as post was a while back but if you ever have a repeat it sure is better than towing the car and paying for the keys from Honda dealership.
@momanddadmeetworld thank you so much for responding, i did purchase one already but I will keep that in mind if there's a next time lol
Thank you so much for your videos :)
Hi, thank you for a great video, I am about to embark on a very similar effort. One question, did the new FoB key that you purchased from Amazon also come with a RFID transponder (the narrow rectangular block at the corner) similar to the original ones? If so I have a concern, I believe that there is some maximum limit (3?) on the number of RFID's that the car will memorize/recognize; if the limit is exceeded then it will overwrite one of the existing codes in the memory while programming. So, I am worried if my valet key will become inoperative (i.e, the starter will turn but the engine won't fire due to the immobilizer) after programming. So, my question is, are you now able to start your car with both of your working FoB keys as well as the valet key? Thanks for any advice.
To be safe, an alternative that I am considering is to transplant the remote unit to the original key (with its original transponder) as you did, but before the programming part.
Great question, I honesty have not checked my valet key. (I don't even know if we still have it) You are 100% right on the limit. This isn't our first time we've programmed remotes to the car. We did the same with our Honda Fit. We normally have all keys that go to that car there when we add the remotes to the car just to be safe. We did the transplant method as we did not have our key cut. But the short of it is, no, I don't know if it will remove that valet key. Let us know and hope it goes well.
@@momanddadmeetworld Thank you. I too have all keys which came with the car, but the valet key has no buttons, so cannot be concurrently programmed as described; i.e., without the aid of expensive scanners. So, I was wondering if its transponder code would be automatically erased from memory during the re-programming sequence. But I will try to program after transplanting (only) the new remote to the original FoB key (with its original transponder that the car already knows about) - hopefully that is safe. I will report back for the benefit of other key programmers who may visit your page🙂 Thanks again!
Thank you very much!! I appreciate you!
Thank you for the kind words!
Great job you could have still used the new buttons at least they would have been cleaned. If you get a chance to get a toothbrush or something and clean the gunk out of that remote
We cleaned all that pocket lint, dirt, debris, and yuck before we fully put everything back together.
Link?
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CHM98WB7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Here's what we purchased, but you can search your make model year honda key fob replacement in the amazon search. Check out the highest ratings and reviews before you buy.
It didn’t let me program at all
Did your car go into programming mode? Did you add a battery to the new remote if needed?
If your car did not go into programming mode, the transponder could be full as only so many keys can be stored and I do not known what that number actually is. Sorry this is being difficult for you.