First game reminded me of that Einstein quote: I know not with what weapons world war 3 will be fought, but world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones
@@BreatheManuallyI think it is simply meant as next world war will be nuclear and all devastating to the whole world, and set every party back technology wise. The biggest cities devastated. The knowledgable people killed. Etc. So we have to rebuild heavily after a war like that.
Hey lowko. Love the vids. Suggestion: on match starts, describe the map advantages and disadvantages vs the specific matchup. Thanks for the vids. Love the 45min+ ones
Spoiler alert!!! The chat at the end of game 1 says, Dark : Draw?? Byun : lol Byun : Not coming? Dark : Never Byun : lol Dark : Not even if you give a million won Byun : Let's call it a draw
@@anthonybarajas2838 What I believe they were saying is that both thought attacking was a losing move so both would just sit their side of the map. Nothing would ever happen because whoever attacks loses. So draw. Or play until 1 guy just falls asleep I guess.
I think the thing that Lowko's missing is that the mutas weren't just "against terran late game". Dark was very specifically hunting down tanks and ghosts, i.e the things that would kill the ultraling composition that he would swing to after the mutas. He was essentially repeatedly clearing out the counters to ultraling so he could do damage with that.
41:30 Lowko doesn't speak Korean and neither do I so I ran this through google translator image translation and then text translation and this is what I got; 무승부?? tie?? ㅋ lol 올 생각 없음? No plans to come? 갈생각 없죠 I have no intention of going ㅋ lol 100만원줘도 안가요 I won't go even if you give me 1 million won 무승부 tie 하자 let's do it
Even though I don't play Starcraft 2 often, it really peaks my interest to watch Stream Cast from your vids, Man. I played Starcraft 1 before, so I understand how complicated it is to play this game. Keep it up, Man!
I am surprised Lowko until the end apparently didn't fully understand what Dark was doing with the Mutas. He got SO MUCH value from one-shotting the siege tanks and harrassing the ghosts - which are good against almost everything, but Mutas not so much! - before walking in with the Ultras. It's a brilliant idea, which I feel has even more potential to give Zerg another option in late-game ZvT.
Need some translator heroes!! Honestly, these games are making me want to learn Korean. I looked up a "how to read Korean" TH-cam video after some long chats in a previous match. lol
The mutalisk play is extremely rare from all the games I had view so far 😮 it's good to see them back in action and now that I think about it, they are pretty fast in mobility that it does both the corrupters and broodlords job in air and ground assault since broodlords are slower and corrupters can't target ground, with good micro management they can be very impressive
Hey Lowko, Been a fan for years. I've probably watched about 75-85% of everything you have produced over that time. However I have found myself not watching as much lately, maybe just all the tournaments that have been going on. Not a criticism at all, just giving you some feed back on my watching habits if it happens to relate to a trend. Always enjoy seeing you cast at the big tournaments.
ooh! a movie sized "craziest grand finals ever" featuring Dark and BuyN?!?! sure *I'm glad I started this where I can finish this in one sitting* lol Thanks Lowko! holy crap, that "first game" was great! 24 Celsius is 75 Fahrenheit, you're welcome
1:29:16 Kelvin is the metric system! You ought to know how to do that conversion! Kelvin = Celsius + 272.15. Though to be fair, not many people in the US even know what Rankine is, let alone how to convert it from Fahrenheit.
@@cyberkekosis See, that's what I thought, but I googled it just before commenting just to make sure it was 273.15, and it told me, right in the url bar, 272.15. I should go with my gut. :( "Modern reality" is a strange phrase. When did _reality_ enter modernity?
Terran does have very good units to counter mutas. For bio builds it's the humble marine, for mech it's either the cyclone or thor depending on the version: battle and standard respectively. There is also the viking of course. However when Terrans enter the very late game they typically stick to mostly ghosts and liberators, neither of which is particularly great against mutas. Actually making a late game muta switch a very viable tactic as Dark showed in game 1.
Although it didn't amount to much, I have to call attention to Dark's 200IQ play of weaving the initial muta swarm through all the turrets and picking out all the tanks to clear the way for the upcoming ultras.
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Sounds like even Lowko gets bored of his own commentary a little after the hour mark. I switched over to a video by another caster at that point. Great games.
Dark's muta usage was brilliant in game 1 but I was so frustrated by him throwing away 30 banelings for an orbital at a base with few minerals left. He just needed to focus on mining out the bottom right base as much as possible, as long as he mined two more bases than the Terran he could afford to simply sit back, defend his bases with baneling packs while harassing the Terran and keeping him on the back foot with his mutalisks. If he had mined out the bottom right base it would have been completely over after Byun failed to kill his top left.
Me oh a new loco video I can spend 20 to 40 minutes on this lowko How about two hours? . . . Me, changing my plans time to lay in the bed for two hours, watching Lowko.
If mules cost 1 supply while they're on the battlefield, that might reduce the turtley-ness of Terran just a bit - they'd still be extremely powerful, without being borderline broken in the very late game. Also, Lowko, do you ever cast with the SC1 music enabled? The old Terran music is so freaking good
1:41:00 I didn't take those attacks to be desperate, I took them as just trying to stop Byun from being able to expand ever: stop the deathball from popping up while mining Byun's bases
I think he got so focused on how well the tanks did during the mid game that somehow mines never came to mind, probably because he was tilted. Really strange game but my goodness was that memorable.
SPOILER from the first game: I used google translate to translate the end of the first game and basically they said that none of them was gonna push, so they decided to draw, chat was like: TalonDark : Draw?? Byun : lol. Thougts? Not coming? TalonDark : Im thinking to come (joke) Byun : lol TalonDark : Not coming even if you give a million won Byun : draw. let's do it. gg
26:35 je suis d'accord avec toi ! Malgré qu'on a l'impression que buyn est ultra Large en ressources et en efficacité il n'a pas de réserve et atteint difficilement son maximum Et que dire de l'économie de masse de dark qui est sans fin 😱
Dark is matchfixing, not mining gas on 11 and 5 o'clock based deliberately to lose game 1. He's basically like Life, the only difference is he didn't get caught.
something lowko keeps forgetting: terran also has to build a shiitload of buildings which also cost resources to produce theor units, unlike zerg. unless they are destroyed they dont show up in resources lost, but obviously those are also resourses that do not do any actual fighting.
at the end of G1 Dark-" Draw?? ByuN- "Thoughts"... "None?" Dark - "It's a good idea to go"... "I won't go even if yopu give me 1 million Won" (korean currency) Byun- "Draw."... "Let's do it" GG
![[2023 GSL S2] Finals Dark vs Maru](/img/n.gif)
Using hellbats to damage a structure is “the Terran equivalent of keying someone’s car” lol damn Lowko that’s a good one XD
First game reminded me of that Einstein quote: I know not with what weapons world war 3 will be fought, but world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones
I never believed that quote but starcraft actually help me understand his pov.
@@BreatheManuallyI think it is simply meant as next world war will be nuclear and all devastating to the whole world, and set every party back technology wise. The biggest cities devastated. The knowledgable people killed. Etc. So we have to rebuild heavily after a war like that.
World War 3 will be fought with dank memes and cold war era weaponry.
Hey lowko. Love the vids. Suggestion: on match starts, describe the map advantages and disadvantages vs the specific matchup. Thanks for the vids. Love the 45min+ ones
he does that sometimes, but it doesnt usually give any worthwhile info. if a map has a heavy advantage, then pros veto it. otherwise its mostly 50 50
"Best Game of the Year" Counter: 273
There are a lot of years. Looking forward to see number 2000.
Expect a lot more. It's only mid May.
But he's never wrong
Best game of the day
I mean this isn't the best game of the year. It's the best FINAL of the year. Different counter required :)
Spoiler alert!!!
The chat at the end of game 1 says,
Dark : Draw??
Byun : lol
Byun : Not coming?
Dark : Never
Byun : lol
Dark : Not even if you give a million won
Byun : Let's call it a draw
vibe
Oh come on they could've clashed
i don't get why they called a draw. i didn't think that would be allowed in a finals match?
@@anthonybarajas2838 What I believe they were saying is that both thought attacking was a losing move so both would just sit their side of the map. Nothing would ever happen because whoever attacks loses. So draw. Or play until 1 guy just falls asleep I guess.
Lowko loving and hating the mutas in game 1 was hilarious.
“31 MUTAS !?”
“Ok certainly he’s done- MORE MUTAS !?” 😂😂
Five. Hundred. Mutas.
Best of 5, over 2 hour video. Here we go! :D
Lowko. They didn't send you the replays because the replays are that good. They sent you the replays because _you're_ that good
Not only a great series, also top notch Lowko commentary :) broodling rain was was my favorite!
Gave Lowko a thumbs up for this one.. long matches, tough job! Well done, buddy!
I think the thing that Lowko's missing is that the mutas weren't just "against terran late game". Dark was very specifically hunting down tanks and ghosts, i.e the things that would kill the ultraling composition that he would swing to after the mutas. He was essentially repeatedly clearing out the counters to ultraling so he could do damage with that.
41:30 Lowko doesn't speak Korean and neither do I so I ran this through google translator image translation and then text translation and this is what I got;
무승부?? tie??
ㅋ lol
올 생각 없음? No plans to come?
갈생각 없죠 I have no intention of going
ㅋ lol
100만원줘도 안가요 I won't go even if you give me 1 million won
무승부 tie
하자 let's do it
Even though I don't play Starcraft 2 often, it really peaks my interest to watch Stream Cast from your vids, Man. I played Starcraft 1 before, so I understand how complicated it is to play this game.
Keep it up, Man!
Lowko "Best Game of the Year?!"
Also Lowko: "I don't want to overhype it."
Dark was playing with his feet, using his hands to lull his kid to sleep. It will take some time before he becomes as proficient as with his hands.
I heard Dark has three feet
I am surprised Lowko until the end apparently didn't fully understand what Dark was doing with the Mutas. He got SO MUCH value from one-shotting the siege tanks and harrassing the ghosts - which are good against almost everything, but Mutas not so much! - before walking in with the Ultras. It's a brilliant idea, which I feel has even more potential to give Zerg another option in late-game ZvT.
byun forgot about mines
wow game #1, was not expecting that ending!!
Need some translator heroes!! Honestly, these games are making me want to learn Korean. I looked up a "how to read Korean" TH-cam video after some long chats in a previous match. lol
24:24 Dark mining from right beside a command center is cheeky and hilarious
The mutalisk play is extremely rare from all the games I had view so far 😮 it's good to see them back in action and now that I think about it, they are pretty fast in mobility that it does both the corrupters and broodlords job in air and ground assault since broodlords are slower and corrupters can't target ground, with good micro management they can be very impressive
Two hours of Lowko casting professional SC2 finals? Is it Christmas already?
"24⁰C!? Ai ya yai ya yai."
Me looking at my AC set at 25⁰C: 😐
I think Lowko will melt here.
Lowko might be incinerated where I am (Australia). A day in the low 30s in summer is considered “cool”. 🤣🤣
Hey Lowko, Been a fan for years. I've probably watched about 75-85% of everything you have produced over that time. However I have found myself not watching as much lately, maybe just all the tournaments that have been going on. Not a criticism at all, just giving you some feed back on my watching habits if it happens to relate to a trend. Always enjoy seeing you cast at the big tournaments.
1:57:51 "we don't talk about stamina of programers very much"
Also goodguy Lowko: *talks about it in each long match-up*
I didn't expect a 2 hours video, today's a lucky day
This is going to be one of the few series - and one of the videos over 2 hours - I watch on multiple channels just because it’s just that wild
The mini map looked like TvZ late game by minute 8 in game 1. Absolutely bonkers how fast they both expanded.
ooh!
a movie sized "craziest grand finals ever" featuring Dark and BuyN?!?! sure
*I'm glad I started this where I can finish this in one sitting* lol Thanks Lowko!
holy crap, that "first game" was great!
24 Celsius is 75 Fahrenheit, you're welcome
Please never stop doing, whta you do Lowko!
1:29:16 Kelvin is the metric system! You ought to know how to do that conversion! Kelvin = Celsius + 272.15.
Though to be fair, not many people in the US even know what Rankine is, let alone how to convert it from Fahrenheit.
273.15 actually. not 272.15.
Rankine is completely unnecessary and almost useless in modern reality
@@cyberkekosis See, that's what I thought, but I googled it just before commenting just to make sure it was 273.15, and it told me, right in the url bar, 272.15. I should go with my gut. :(
"Modern reality" is a strange phrase. When did _reality_ enter modernity?
Lowko: aye aye aye, 24 °C, I'm melting
Me watching at 40 °C in Mexico: it's fine🔥🐕☕
Thanks for the great cast!
The wow at 1:50:26 from Lowko, genuine impressed!
Terran does have very good units to counter mutas. For bio builds it's the humble marine, for mech it's either the cyclone or thor depending on the version: battle and standard respectively. There is also the viking of course. However when Terrans enter the very late game they typically stick to mostly ghosts and liberators, neither of which is particularly great against mutas. Actually making a late game muta switch a very viable tactic as Dark showed in game 1.
1:41:30 i literally said earlier when you showed that graph that the blue line looks satisfying for some reason and then you go and call me out xD!!!
Dit aan het kijken op mn balkon op de zonnige namiddag met een hele dikke jonko. Bedankt lowko.
When translated to English you said “very fat youngster” I really wonder what that means when translated properly XD
@@p.p.wienersson I meant a joint, I like your name P. P. Wienersson
Although it didn't amount to much, I have to call attention to Dark's 200IQ play of weaving the initial muta swarm through all the turrets and picking out all the tanks to clear the way for the upcoming ultras.
BROODLING RAIN!
it made me laugh even before you started to actually sing it
7:50 Dark the « Hatch-dra » ( Hatch Hydra 😂😂 ) ✨✨. Love it !
Dude the ending of match one is insane! Wtf!
Hahahhaa that chocolate rain reference got me good
1:18: Lowko the prophet
The word "meme" certainly existed in 2008. At least in the 4chan circles.
The word "meme" is a concept proposed by Richard Dawkins long before memes appeared on the Internet. In his proposal, the "meme" is the most basic element of culture to share, like a "gene" with genetic information or a "bit" with computational data.
Later, in the early 90s, the "internet meme" first appeared when Mike Godwin talked about how such "memes" were spread through email, forums, etc.
Finally, during the new millennium, globalization allows people to access the digital era where social media have a great impact on the way, speed and breadth of dissemination of these "memes".
@@MarlotteTR memes the DNA of the soul
Delightful commentary!
Sounds like even Lowko gets bored of his own commentary a little after the hour mark. I switched over to a video by another caster at that point. Great games.
"Sometimes when I'm feeling extra crazy I'll have a diet coke at like 10pm ... even though there's some caffeine in it" -Lowko the party animal
Dark's muta usage was brilliant in game 1 but I was so frustrated by him throwing away 30 banelings for an orbital at a base with few minerals left. He just needed to focus on mining out the bottom right base as much as possible, as long as he mined two more bases than the Terran he could afford to simply sit back, defend his bases with baneling packs while harassing the Terran and keeping him on the back foot with his mutalisks. If he had mined out the bottom right base it would have been completely over after Byun failed to kill his top left.
Me oh a new loco video I can spend 20 to 40 minutes on this lowko How about two hours? . . . Me, changing my plans time to lay in the bed for two hours, watching Lowko.
2 hours of Lowko casting a TvZ... and no wild immortal shinanigans, incredible!
If mules cost 1 supply while they're on the battlefield, that might reduce the turtley-ness of Terran just a bit - they'd still be extremely powerful, without being borderline broken in the very late game.
Also, Lowko, do you ever cast with the SC1 music enabled? The old Terran music is so freaking good
The video duration got me concerned over each player's, especially Micro Jackson's, wrists.
1:41:00 I didn't take those attacks to be desperate, I took them as just trying to stop Byun from being able to expand ever: stop the deathball from popping up while mining Byun's bases
Thanks for the video, Lowko. Happy Mother’s Day every one! ❤❤❤
Hearing u say 24 degrees is too hot is so funny😭24(75f) is like perfect weather in the US
22:56 "HE MAKES MORE!!!" xD
checks time of video...
pees, goes to get food and drink, gets comfy.
Nobody bother me for a while
That first match was just crazy. It's like to neanderthals saying ugh ugh, dropping their fists, and just slugging it out
I love that they spent 40 minutes, just to re-play the map
@1:27:00
24 deg C is hot...
we have here a mild couple of days, and the temp is *only* 42 deg C.
you open the window and start sweating.
Byun got completely outplayed in game 1 against the mass muta, completely bizarre, Maru and Clem would laugh at that kinda of game
I think he got so focused on how well the tanks did during the mid game that somehow mines never came to mind, probably because he was tilted. Really strange game but my goodness was that memorable.
@@natecw4164 i think he hyperfocused on liberators as the counter when mines, thors, or even marines would have done better
@@Jdog-tt8qe yeah how that didn't cross his mind when building his 40th turret is beyond me 😂
42:25 Game One (2)
Game 1 is crazy ! This game is amazing !
SPOILER from the first game:
I used google translate to translate the end of the first game and basically they said that none of them was gonna push, so they decided to draw, chat was like:
TalonDark : Draw??
Byun : lol. Thougts? Not coming?
TalonDark : Im thinking to come (joke)
Byun : lol
TalonDark : Not coming even if you give a million won
Byun : draw. let's do it. gg
- Draw?
- Draw
Let's use all our units into a massive fight
great series!
26:35 je suis d'accord avec toi ! Malgré qu'on a l'impression que buyn est ultra Large en ressources et en efficacité il n'a pas de réserve et atteint difficilement son maximum
Et que dire de l'économie de masse de dark qui est sans fin 😱
I'm looking forward to your pixel pro reviews.
Best of 3 starts at 1:25:45 for those with little time on their hands.
why is Serral doing military service? they have that in Finland too? 🤔
They have this small neighour to worry about... Sweden
everyone is looking for matches with this mod! ive played myself a couple on my youtube channel! cheers keep it up!
Queen, Ravage, Infestor, Viper, Broodlords, Banelings and walking spores. Dark is a madman!
I always liked Dark's play-style, but after that first game I'm a fan.
Dark at 1:33:08: 'Noone saw that'
In todays episode of Lowko teaches science we talk about Celsius, Fahrenheit, and Kelvin.
When you look at top level starcraft the micro and macro factors of the game make it next to impossible to comprehend the skill involved.
Dark is matchfixing, not mining gas on 11 and 5 o'clock based deliberately to lose game 1. He's basically like Life, the only difference is he didn't get caught.
yea sherlock i think you got a case (sarcasm)
@@ashesofaranea1:33:18 Detonating his own banelings, ever heard of man who did that? He's called Life(not sarcasm)
Yeah. Why blame it on lack of sleep common in parenthood when you can go full conspiranoic?
Years work differently in the Koprulu Sector. Can have up to 7 games per 1 of our years.
Mutas made out of paper, but can shrug off multiple missiles and regenerate rapidly.
In germany we use Celsius as well btw
something lowko keeps forgetting: terran also has to build a shiitload of buildings which also cost resources to produce theor units, unlike zerg. unless they are destroyed they dont show up in resources lost, but obviously those are also resourses that do not do any actual fighting.
37:37 “N I C E”
you should do a top 10 game of the year at the end of the year
at the end of G1
Dark-" Draw??
ByuN- "Thoughts"... "None?"
Dark - "It's a good idea to go"... "I won't go even if yopu give me 1 million Won" (korean currency)
Byun- "Draw."... "Let's do it"
GG
all of these games were great, best set ive watched since innovation vs serral
Can we have full version of Broodling Rain?
New build order confirmed. 3 hatch, pool, 2 more hatch, bane nest, 2 more hatch, then make a unit. Should do great on the ladder.
I dont know, byun could have A+move and win this imp
In the first game they were asking for a draw, and said they won't go away for a 100 million (currency)
when you open BO5 video and see 2 hours in timeline
I already know what's going to happen, I just have to watch another caster cast it lol
Protoss going Mountain King first into druid of the claw was insane!!
24:08 “I have seen fully upgraded libs deal quite a bit of damage”. As someone from the U.S., I can certainly agree with this.
42:46 did you just snap your fingers to transition to ByuN? xD
what if you go into view for one player will observer chat be visible then?
great series
I would assume that Kevin is around normal body temperature, so that 24 C is about 0.66 Kevin.
would like… five swarm hosts be a good end game choice for Zerg? Just create some good guaranteed free damage?
Lowko as usual rizzin up Dark 😭😭
instead of 'rock paper scissors' -> 'ling bane bane'
one doesn't beat the other its just catchy to say / hear
"ling-bane-bane , ling-banebane"
I wish that after agreeing to a draw, they just played it out anyway. So much buildup of tension, and such an anticlimax.
Dark should keep it up with the mass muta strategy