Roland MC-707 // How to do polyrhythmic stuff for dummies

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  • A very simple polyrhythmic 3 against 4 project on the Roland MC-707 with explanation.
    #Roland #Groovebox #MC-707

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  • @MatusFinchus
    @MatusFinchus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is really cool. I'd been learning about polyrhythms only earlier today, so this was very timely. 👍

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thnx a lot. It was my study project as well.
      I spent a lot of time making this basic pattern with my hands / feet etc. so it was cool to see it work on the 707.
      Most definitely not the last time I programmed this (kind of) pattern 😄

    • @MatusFinchus
      @MatusFinchus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tricks-and-tips Lovely! I'm turning in for the night now, but I'm going to be doing some 707 work tomorrow implementing something like this for sure.

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MatusFinchus Same here (NL) good night 😴

  • @CiabaMusic
    @CiabaMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is by far the best "4 against 3" polyrythm video in context of drums/synths I saw on youtube. Very useful! Subbed!
    Looking forward to my 707 to be delivered tomorrow.

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks a lot!
      Have fun with the 707 and let me know if you have any questions!

  • @H4NDCRAFTED
    @H4NDCRAFTED 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the mc707 so much , it’s a groove box , a chain-able effects sequencer , you can run each effect into another for a total of 15 at the same time and sequence different effect chain as clips. Even if you just use it as an 8 track drum machine it’s crazy.
    I wish you could do polyrhythms within a drum kit , but per track is fine , you can always resemble the bits you like if you need the other tracks. The only negative for me is the screen.

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah man, I think it is 95% perfect!

  • @DJCJ999
    @DJCJ999 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool trick for any machine!

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DJCJ999 thanks! Yeah, most sequencers will be able to do this

  • @christopha82
    @christopha82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool, will have to try this!

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks. Yeah, I'm using this and polymeters more and more on the 707!

  • @johnsaunders6510
    @johnsaunders6510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting stuff

  • @simplesynth1555
    @simplesynth1555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you want to learn how to do this so it fits in step length 16 (or any other length) we have an explainer here: th-cam.com/video/x6xBKThrQF8/w-d-xo.html

  • @shiva007freephenix
    @shiva007freephenix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done ! Are each track a sound preset,or samples already in the device ?

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks.
      Everything you hear is stock 707.

  • @laurent.8443
    @laurent.8443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cool!

  • @gorogne
    @gorogne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very inspiring, thx! 👍🏿😎👍🏿

  • @IUsedToBeAPygmy
    @IUsedToBeAPygmy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Noice!

  •  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😊😊Good idea, i will try 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @w1zardssleeve
    @w1zardssleeve 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice, not thought about this kind of stuff but gonna have a play now 👍

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!
      Looking forward to hearing the results :)

  • @toffchunks
    @toffchunks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    top as usual ;-) thks!!!

  • @shiva007freephenix
    @shiva007freephenix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done ! Are the sounds/samples presets ?

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks (yes, already I replied earlier)

    • @sat1241
      @sat1241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tricks-and-tips thanks for the video.
      Suppose you had a 9 note weird scale
      And on one track you wanted that in 6/8.
      6 is more than 9 so instead you make in 12/8
      and you fit 9 notes in there by having some longer or having rests, whatever.
      So the scale can be accommodated in 12 steps
      and at there same time there could be a downbeat every 6
      Then with that same 9 note scale you want it on a second track
      as a polyrhythm so this second track in 11/8
      and you make the 9 note scale have rests or some notes long and
      11 has it covered.
      I'm not sure if technically the polyrhythm is 6:11
      or 12:11but you get the idea.
      And this can't be a polymeter, I would want it to be a true
      polyrhythm so like you did in the video both are the same duration
      but at different tempos for that 1 to meet every time and not shift
      So how hard is this type of thing on the MC-707 ?
      That's they type of thing I would want to do.
      I also see Roland has the simple version of this device the MC 101, less expensive.
      I wonder if that could do the same.
      Is this more complex polyrhythm with ostinato or scales fairly easy to do
      or is it a big pain to program?
      Also take a look at Andrew Huang's video on MOOG's Subharmonicon Polyrhythm sequencer
      It's interesting but way out of my price range.

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sat1241 wow, I’m 100% sure I don’t understand your question.
      I never tried this myself (and since I don’t understand it, I don’t know how 😂)
      I think the 101 has similar options with regards to the time durations and divisions, but I never owned one myself.
      The subharmonicon was high on my list, but it is useless in a normal setup like I have.
      It’s really a super limited weird experimental synth that works best on its own ecosystem and I had to let go of wanting it because it does not fit into my workflow.

    • @sat1241
      @sat1241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tricks-and-tips thanks for the reply. I was looking for a sequencer that can play any weirds scale or just any random sequence of notes in any odd time signature and for this to be easy and convenient.
      A bonus would to be able to do it on two tracks as a polyrhythm and for it to be relatively easy

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sat1241 I'm not sure if the 707/101 are the best tools for this.
      I never use very odd scales myself.
      I think it can get you quite far, since it has a lot of options, but I never use those deeply.
      But maybe a dedicated sequencer will give you more options. Like the Oxi One or something. (though that does not make any sound, since it is 'just' a sequencer).

  • @mattspazmatic
    @mattspazmatic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of the many things I've been wanting to learn. Thank you! Subbed!

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot.
      It is super interesting stuff once you get into it.
      I will check your channel too :)

    • @mattspazmatic
      @mattspazmatic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tricks-and-tips Thank you! There's nothing really pertaining to music on there, however, I'm going to start doing some performances soon.

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattspazmatic I will get a notification now when you start sharing. Looking forward to seeing that :)

    • @mattspazmatic
      @mattspazmatic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tricks-and-tips Thank you. I've been asking around everywhere but...
      Any idea if I could use the kaoss pad on my electribe to sequence drum patterns on my 707? I love the rhythms I can lay out quickly on my electribe 2.

    • @tricks-and-tips
      @tricks-and-tips  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattspazmatic If you can record the midi notes the electribe is sending out (in a DAW for example), you can see what notes it transmits.
      That way we can check if that corresponds to what the 707 listens to for drum triggering.