Two race records and the biggest winning margin in this race speaks volumes for her ability. She was an out and out champion. She then wins her fourth a record that will never be broken.
Great horse ridden by a great jockey and a great trainer for the last four years , giving them all the greatest achievement in this great race . Let us not forget that the only other jockey that I know of to win the great race is our local boy from whanganui New Zealand , is Brent Thompson who rode four different horses to win the Cox plate starting with Fury's Order when the media proclaimed young Brent as a boy going to do a man's job . How great was Brent Thompson to these achievements
Cox plate is the absolute peak in Australian racing. Only the best are invited n in limited numbers. The way Winx always able to pull away at the end is why she is The best of the best of the best.
@@rubiconnz1754 I'm no expert on that one. Just an average observer admirer. Many o/s horses would not come due to the cost involved and the risk as well. From what I remember, they are invited based on that years form. Hence the title best of the best race for serious punters and enthusiast. There are several contenders for the best horse ever. But they are mainly horses based overseas. And That title is a hard call (due to bias and favoritism and I'm a bit guilty myself). It is best described as Horses for courses I guess!! (Sprinters, Mid distance and Stayers). Phar Lap was able to achieve both as a mid-distance and long stayer (probably a bit too big and heavy to be a sprinter). Why Winx? IMHO, because of the fact that she won the pinnacle of aust horse race, the Cox Plate, 4 out of 4 and that unbeaten record of wins. Probably never to be repeated in history again. I should correct myself and say that Winx is the best Mid Distance horse ever.
I remember watching in my pajamas late at night here in New Mexico, USA, feeling awful that Kings Will Dream was pulled up...amazingly, he healed up and has come back...I'm waiting to hear if Winx is in foal....I miss her so much! Racing is not the same without Winx! Thanks for this video!
A gentle girl who has graced the world with her ability to be a racing star. Like Seabicuit Winx has captured the hearts of nations. Phenomenon. A star we all look to. Winx has given back to racing.
Who knows how she would have performed overseas they had the opportunity to come her and test her but not many did I wonder why bowman always said that he never really fully tested her and did not know how much more she had left to give
Winx is in foal! News about another retiree....WINX is in foal! 5 December, 2019 Champion mare Winx is successfully in foal according to media reports. The owners of Winx - Peter and Patty Tighe, Richard Treweeke and Debbie Keptis - announced in June that the 25-time Group 1 winner would visit I Am Invincible, Yarraman Park's leading sire. The Australian reports that Winx's owners will make another announcement, on Monday, confirming the successful mating. I Am Invincible was the sire of four Australian Group 1 winners last season and his service fee for the 2019 breeding season was $247,500.
Maybe that 1980 SYDNEY CUP as a three year old seals greatness for KINGSTON TOWN hey and let's not forgert SECOND MElb Cup and SECOND VRC Derby FOURTH Caulfield Cup
The big difference in her was she wasnt flogged as a 2 or 3 year old.........still growing at that age....some grow faster and stronger earlier,win a handful of races,then succumb to injury as a result...if an entire or mare can go to stud.....same can grow into a flop when mature......smart work by owners and trainer with winx
But neither was she overly protected. She had 12 start at 2 and 3 at distances ranging from 1100m to 12F. That is still a fairly heavy schedule for any filly. ... or colt for that matter
Matt: She's in Foal! News about another retiree....WINX is in foal! 5 December, 2019 Champion mare Winx is successfully in foal according to media reports. The owners of Winx - Peter and Patty Tighe, Richard Treweeke and Debbie Keptis - announced in June that the 25-time Group 1 winner would visit I Am Invincible, Yarraman Park's leading sire. The Australian reports that Winx's owners will make another announcement, on Monday, confirming the successful mating. I Am Invincible was the sire of four Australian Group 1 winners last season and his service fee for the 2019 breeding season was $247,500.
Scott Simpson I find her difficult to weigh up myself. Stunning record but I reckon 25 of the 33 were pretty soft wins. She still had to win them which is an achievement in itself. Humidor and Happy Clapper both ran well against her once or twice and Hartnell is a good horse but clearly limited at that not quite elite level. After that you've got Highland Reel and Benbatl who she raced once each. I would have liked to see her take on a couple of better horses for three or four races in a row. If she'd racked up this record between 1980 and 2003 I'd have said she was the best horse in history. Doing it between 2015 and 2019 just leaves a couple of empty columns in her ledger for me.
master lays We did notice her but after 2016 it just became a bit of a joke really. Racing the same ordinary opponents and 70% of the field made up of her stablemates. It was like watching Shaun Marsh batting against school kids. It was never anything close to watching Lara batting against Warne and McGrath or Border taking on the WIndies. More like Shaun Marsh batting against Peter Siddle. She was just clearly a big fish in a little pond.
R They ran 2nd and 3rd. You can watch those races on TH-cam if you search. It's also pretty easy to find the race results on line. Not sure why you needed me to find that information for you?
R Well for starters dickhead, Criterion and Highland Reel ran against her in 2015 so you might want to read my original post again. So that leaves Benbatl. What I said was after 2016 all her races were boring. He was never going to be able to beat her, he's only ever been assessed as being as good as Hartnell and Happy Clapper so that was boring too. He's just a decent horse who to date has not been able to run a place in a Group One race in England. As I said, she was an A Grader who only ever competed against B, C and D Graders. Boring. Once you've flogged the B and C graders for 2 years it's really time to step up to A grade. But she never did so it just became a bit of a lame media circus from 2017 onwards.
The thing is with Winx she was no doubt a top class horse durability unquestioned the issue is the horses she beat if you look at their form its just not the very top class , this is not to say she wasnt great but the horses she beat certainly were not.
@@bgardiner3354 Yes it is my opinion and like arseholes we all have one , name the great horses he beat , his own top rating at 130 which is top class as ive said but beating horses like Benbatl and Happy Clapper doesnt make Winx a world beater if he had of come to Europe he would have gone home beaten .
@@AndySmith-lq2di I like how you think you know enough about Winx's form and the quality of the opposition she faced though still are not aware that Winx is a she-horse and not a he-horse. HER own top rating was not 130... it was 132, in 2016 behind Arrogate (134) and California Chrome (133). If you actually knew anything about ratings you would understand that, with the distaff allowance (because she's a she and not a he) that makes Winx a 135 horse. Since the IFHA ratings really began (in their current format) in 2003 there have been 4 horses rate higher than 132... Hawkwing (133), Sea The Stars (136), Harbinger (135) and Frankel (136 and 140). Taking into account her distaff allowance that makes her the equal 3rd highest rated horse since IFHA began in 2003. You are the one who is making the claim here about the form of the horses she beat... not me. You said "the issue is the horses she beat if you look at their form its just not the very top class.” I asked you if you had any examples and you responded by telling me that I should “name the great horses he (sic) beat”… like the burden was on me to demonstrate why your comment was incorrect. Imagine if I said “I think you’re a knobhead, now prove to me you’re aren’t.” It’s not really how adult conversations go. Regardless, you have (nearly) offered two examples… so we can work with them. I suspect you have a very limited racing faculty but I’ll do my best to dumb this down. You must have concluded at some point, that the IFHA over-rated Winx… is that correct? Let me explain to me how you are wrong… and there are multiple formlines that back this position… the same formlines that the IFHA panel agreed Winx’s peak rating. In the 2000m Turnbull Stakes in 2016 on 4 October Hartnell thrashed Jameka by 4L at WFA. 2 weeks later in the Caulfield Cup Jameka beat Scottish eased up by 3L. Given the weight difference both were rated 119 for the race. Hartnell’s rating in the Turnbull was 124. Scottish…. at his next start, ran 5th beaten 3L by Highland Reel in the Prince of Wales, who ended his career with a peak rating of 123. This put Hartnell (in the form he was in) right in any European G1 over 10F that season. In the 2016 Cox Plate Winx beat Hartnell at his next start by 8L… and rated 130. You might not be able to understand these formlines but rest assured the panel of the IFHA do and you have them to refer to if you get confused about how it works. You mentioned Benbatl, a bit of a mystery horse. Never managed to put it together in a Euro G1 but won some very good races in Dubai and was given a peak rating of 125 … so 2lbs better than Highland Reel… and Winx, far from her best, beat him by only being ridden out for about 200m. At her peak Winx would have lapped him. I’d be interested to know which horse/s you think Winx would have been beaten by had she gone to Europe in say 2016/17 and in what races they would have beaten her.
@@bgardiner3354 In my initial post I stated Winx was a she I said she was top class but I stand by my comment on horses SHE beat , nice reply I could feel your angst in every line .
There are those that jump on any “Winx” video and denigrate it.....saying she didn’t run against quality.............first off,unlike a swathe of European races 4 or 5 horses in a race is rare....doubt any other horse could have raced against so many and won 33...haven’t seen it in Europe....so in 33 races most were 8-10 horses....and more in others.....so we will call it 330 other runners...........they would have you believe there was no quality,all donkeys with 3 legs......wankers
I agree they run and win six races in England where there are legal pacemakers which makes a mockery of the sport to achieve higher ratings. After 6 wins they are proclaimed champions and retired to stud and there are many who fit that category. Winx raced in the best races over a long period of time and always came out on top that streak of hers will likely never be repeated in our lifetime.
Here's an interesting comparison Enable vs Winx. Across 2018/2019 Winx ran 11 times in 10 Group one races. The rating of her best opponent in those races ranged from 115-123. Four times there was not a 120 rated horse in the race. Only once in those 11 races were there 2 X 120 rated opponents in the same race. Across 2018/2019 Enable ran 7 times in 6 Group Ones. The rating of her best opponent in those races ranged from 122-128. Enable never ran in a race without a 122 rated horse in it. Four of those seven times there were 2 or more opponents rated 122+ I'm not saying Enable is better than Winx. I think Winx is the better horse overall. But Enable certainly raced harder opponents and more of them more often. It's impossible to know whether Enable would have handled Moonee Valley but I'm sure if Enable took Winxs place in the Turnbull and QE Stks in 2017/2018/2019 she would have clearly beaten Kluger, Youngstar, Gailo Chop and Ventura Storm over 2000 at Flemington and Randwick.
Winxs opponents got stale and after a 4 year domination drove the good horses away. Humidor in the 2017 cox plate was a worthy challenge. Benbatl has done good things. The best race she has ever raced in was her first cox plate. Highland reel, criterion and many other g1 winners. Criterion got snubbed but winx dominated. Still think people saying she's the best ever is a stretch because she never really went out of the comfort zone, just did the same things over and over. But she did them really, really well.
Winxs opponents got stale and after a 4 year domination drove the good horses away. Humidor in the 2017 cox plate was a worthy challenge. Benbatl has done good things. The best race she has ever raced in was her first cox plate. Highland reel, criterion and many other g1 winners. Criterion got snubbed but winx dominated. Still think people saying she's the best ever is a stretch because she never really went out of the comfort zone, just did the same things over and over. But she did them really, really well.
I think it’s fair to say, with all things being equal, Enable would have streeted the likes of Youngstar and Ventura Storm. It would have been interesting to see Enable in a hot 7F race, which is what we would have seen had she raced here. Once you get over distance you can make your own luck on the best horse. Winx winning streak really has no equal in that regard.
Don't get me wrong Marcus, I too think Winx was exceptional. However I categorise her as one of the best, not the best. Her record is amazing, but she needed much harder testing to be the best. People say she wasn't tested because she was so much better than her opposition but I also think part of it was that her opposition was inferior. If you gave Australian middle distance racing an overall rating between 1965 and 2005 a of 90/100 I'd say Winx was racing against 75-80 out 100 level horses. If you said Winx was a 95 and Sunline was a 93 the difference to me was that Sunline raced against 85-90 out of 100 horses. Winx raced against 75-80 out of 100 horses.
Two race records and the biggest winning margin in this race speaks volumes for her ability. She was an out and out champion. She then wins her fourth a record that will never be broken.
Great horse ridden by a great jockey and a great trainer for the last four years , giving them all the greatest achievement in this great race . Let us not forget that the only other jockey that I know of to win the great race is our local boy from whanganui New Zealand , is Brent Thompson who rode four different horses to win the Cox plate starting with Fury's Order when the media proclaimed young Brent as a boy going to do a man's job . How great was Brent Thompson to these achievements
Cox plate is the absolute peak in Australian racing. Only the best are invited n in limited numbers.
The way Winx always able to pull away at the end is why she is The best of the best of the best.
Believe it is only overseas horses that are " Invited " others are assessed of form
@@rubiconnz1754 I'm no expert on that one. Just an average observer admirer.
Many o/s horses would not come due to the cost involved and the risk as well. From what I remember, they are invited based on that years form. Hence the title best of the best race for serious punters and enthusiast.
There are several contenders for the best horse ever. But they are mainly horses based overseas. And
That title is a hard call (due to bias and favoritism and I'm a bit guilty myself). It is best described as Horses for courses I guess!! (Sprinters, Mid distance and Stayers). Phar Lap was able to achieve both as a mid-distance and long stayer (probably a bit too big and heavy to be a sprinter).
Why Winx? IMHO, because of the fact that she won the pinnacle of aust horse race, the Cox Plate, 4 out of 4 and that unbeaten record of wins. Probably never to be repeated in history again.
I should correct myself and say that Winx is the best Mid Distance horse ever.
I remember watching in my pajamas late at night here in New Mexico, USA, feeling awful that Kings Will Dream was pulled up...amazingly, he healed up and has come back...I'm waiting to hear if Winx is in foal....I miss her so much! Racing is not the same without Winx! Thanks for this video!
Fantastic - keep following this channel and enjoying AUS racing !
Sec Girl She is in Foal or she might have already had Him/Her not 100% Sure I could be wrong tho but yer I’m Preety sure she is
@@mattdavis7093 she was expected to be in foal late Sept
But the promised confirm never came. If she is it will be an 11 month wait!
@@rubiconnz1754👍
A gentle girl who has graced the world with her ability to be a racing star. Like Seabicuit Winx has captured the hearts of nations. Phenomenon. A star we all look to. Winx has given back to racing.
The amazing WINX! They came to challenge her over a three and half year period....she defeated them ALL
this stuff just gives you goosebumps :)
The greatest ever.
Who knows how she would have performed overseas they had the opportunity to come her and test her but not many did I wonder why bowman always said that he never really fully tested her and did not know how much more she had left to give
amazing!
Awesome
Winx is in foal!
News about another retiree....WINX is in foal!
5 December, 2019
Champion mare Winx is successfully in foal according to media reports.
The owners of Winx - Peter and Patty Tighe, Richard Treweeke and Debbie Keptis - announced in June that the 25-time Group 1 winner would visit I Am Invincible, Yarraman Park's leading sire.
The Australian reports that Winx's owners will make another announcement, on Monday, confirming the successful mating.
I Am Invincible was the sire of four Australian Group 1 winners last
season and his service fee for the 2019 breeding season was $247,500.
She is great for sure but nowhere near the almighty Kingston Town
Maybe that 1980 SYDNEY CUP as a three year old seals greatness for KINGSTON TOWN hey and let's not forgert SECOND MElb Cup and SECOND VRC Derby FOURTH Caulfield Cup
She saved her best for last. Benbatl is a very good horse.
The big difference in her was she wasnt flogged as a 2 or 3 year old.........still growing at that age....some grow faster and stronger earlier,win a handful of races,then succumb to injury as a result...if an entire or mare can go to stud.....same can grow into a flop when mature......smart work by owners and trainer with winx
But neither was she overly protected. She had 12 start at 2 and 3 at distances ranging from 1100m to 12F. That is still a fairly heavy schedule for any filly. ... or colt for that matter
one of the greatest filly.the other is black caviar. long live AUS
Makybe Diva won 3 Melbourne Cups Cox Plate Sydney Cup and many other feature races between 2002 and 2005
@@rubiconnz1754oh sorry ,i forgot😁👍
@@田所浩二-l9l But believe most AUSSIE Race fans go WINX 1 BLACK CAVIAR 2 and MAKYBE DIVA 3 as far as great race mares go
荒らしは俺が追放したからみんな安心して見ていいよ
They need to make a movie In her honour
Matt: She's in Foal!
News about another retiree....WINX is in foal!
5 December, 2019
Champion mare Winx is successfully in foal according to media reports.
The owners of Winx - Peter and Patty Tighe, Richard Treweeke and Debbie Keptis - announced in June that the 25-time Group 1 winner would visit I Am Invincible, Yarraman Park's leading sire.
The Australian reports that Winx's owners will make another announcement, on Monday, confirming the successful mating.
I Am Invincible was the sire of four Australian Group 1 winners last
season and his service fee for the 2019 breeding season was $247,500.
It may be difficult to fully convey this greatness within the movie's running time.😁
この本当に強い馬に勝てないから欧州逃げちゃったんだｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ
ギャハハハｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗｗ
She just changes gait whenever she likes.
Champion horse champion jockey
Best female horse going.
Scott Simpson
What do you mean by "going"?
@@elgransenor1472 Sorry.I meant best female horse I've seen.
Scott Simpson
I find her difficult to weigh up myself.
Stunning record but I reckon 25 of the 33 were pretty soft wins.
She still had to win them which is an achievement in itself.
Humidor and Happy Clapper both ran well against her once or twice and Hartnell is a good horse but clearly limited at that not quite elite level.
After that you've got Highland Reel and Benbatl who she raced once each.
I would have liked to see her take on a couple of better horses for three or four races in a row.
If she'd racked up this record between 1980 and 2003 I'd have said she was the best horse in history.
Doing it between 2015 and 2019 just leaves a couple of empty columns in her ledger for me.
Awsome horse why wasnt this grreat horse getting noticed from uk.
master lays
We did notice her but after 2016 it just became a bit of a joke really.
Racing the same ordinary opponents and 70% of the field made up of her stablemates.
It was like watching Shaun Marsh batting against school kids.
It was never anything close to watching Lara batting against Warne and McGrath or Border taking on the WIndies.
More like Shaun Marsh batting against Peter Siddle.
She was just clearly a big fish in a little pond.
@@elgransenor1472 how did highland reel criterian benbatl etc go against her?
R
They ran 2nd and 3rd. You can watch those races on TH-cam if you search.
It's also pretty easy to find the race results on line.
Not sure why you needed me to find that information for you?
@@elgransenor1472 they couldn't beat her could they dickhead
R
Well for starters dickhead, Criterion and Highland Reel ran against her in 2015 so you might want to read my original post again.
So that leaves Benbatl.
What I said was after 2016 all her races were boring.
He was never going to be able to beat her, he's only ever been assessed as being as good as Hartnell and Happy Clapper so that was boring too.
He's just a decent horse who to date has not been able to run a place in a Group One race in England.
As I said, she was an A Grader who only ever competed against B, C and D Graders.
Boring.
Once you've flogged the B and C graders for 2 years it's really time to step up to A grade.
But she never did so it just became a bit of a lame media circus from 2017 onwards.
Shame the ground was so Firm
She'd have won by another 2 if it was soft
Trent Crebbin I say 3 if it was soft
The thing is with Winx she was no doubt a top class horse durability unquestioned the issue is the horses she beat if you look at their form its just not the very top class , this is not to say she wasnt great but the horses she beat certainly were not.
You must have some examples that back up this claim surely. Or is this just your opinion? Because your comment is demonstrably false.
@@bgardiner3354 Yes it is my opinion and like arseholes we all have one , name the great horses he beat , his own top rating at 130 which is top class as ive said but beating horses like Benbatl and Happy Clapper doesnt make Winx a world beater if he had of come to Europe he would have gone home beaten .
@@AndySmith-lq2di I like how you think you know enough about Winx's form and the quality of the opposition she faced though still are not aware that Winx is a she-horse and not a he-horse. HER own top rating was not 130... it was 132, in 2016 behind Arrogate (134) and California Chrome (133). If you actually knew anything about ratings you would understand that, with the distaff allowance (because she's a she and not a he) that makes Winx a 135 horse. Since the IFHA ratings really began (in their current format) in 2003 there have been 4 horses rate higher than 132... Hawkwing (133), Sea The Stars (136), Harbinger (135) and Frankel (136 and 140). Taking into account her distaff allowance that makes her the equal 3rd highest rated horse since IFHA began in 2003.
You are the one who is making the claim here about the form of the horses she beat... not me. You said "the issue is the horses she beat if you look at their form its just not the very top class.” I asked you if you had any examples and you responded by telling me that I should “name the great horses he (sic) beat”… like the burden was on me to demonstrate why your comment was incorrect. Imagine if I said “I think you’re a knobhead, now prove to me you’re aren’t.” It’s not really how adult conversations go.
Regardless, you have (nearly) offered two examples… so we can work with them. I suspect you have a very limited racing faculty but I’ll do my best to dumb this down.
You must have concluded at some point, that the IFHA over-rated Winx… is that correct? Let me explain to me how you are wrong… and there are multiple formlines that back this position… the same formlines that the IFHA panel agreed Winx’s peak rating. In the 2000m Turnbull Stakes in 2016 on 4 October Hartnell thrashed Jameka by 4L at WFA. 2 weeks later in the Caulfield Cup Jameka beat Scottish eased up by 3L. Given the weight difference both were rated 119 for the race. Hartnell’s rating in the Turnbull was 124. Scottish…. at his next start, ran 5th beaten 3L by Highland Reel in the Prince of Wales, who ended his career with a peak rating of 123. This put Hartnell (in the form he was in) right in any European G1 over 10F that season. In the 2016 Cox Plate Winx beat Hartnell at his next start by 8L… and rated 130. You might not be able to understand these formlines but rest assured the panel of the IFHA do and you have them to refer to if you get confused about how it works.
You mentioned Benbatl, a bit of a mystery horse. Never managed to put it together in a Euro G1 but won some very good races in Dubai and was given a peak rating of 125 … so 2lbs better than Highland Reel… and Winx, far from her best, beat him by only being ridden out for about 200m. At her peak Winx would have lapped him.
I’d be interested to know which horse/s you think Winx would have been beaten by had she gone to Europe in say 2016/17 and in what races they would have beaten her.
@@bgardiner3354 In my initial post I stated Winx was a she I said she was top class but I stand by my comment on horses SHE beat , nice reply I could feel your angst in every line .
@@AndySmith-lq2di and I feel your embarrassment lol
There are those that jump on any “Winx” video and denigrate it.....saying she didn’t run against quality.............first off,unlike a swathe of European races 4 or 5 horses in a race is rare....doubt any other horse could have raced against so many and won 33...haven’t seen it in Europe....so in 33 races most were 8-10 horses....and more in others.....so we will call it 330 other runners...........they would have you believe there was no quality,all donkeys with 3 legs......wankers
I agree they run and win six races in England where there are legal pacemakers which makes a mockery of the sport to achieve higher ratings. After 6 wins they are proclaimed champions and retired to stud and there are many who fit that category. Winx raced in the best races over a long period of time and always came out on top that streak of hers will likely never be repeated in our lifetime.
Here's an interesting comparison Enable vs Winx.
Across 2018/2019 Winx ran 11 times in 10 Group one races.
The rating of her best opponent in those races ranged from 115-123.
Four times there was not a 120 rated horse in the race.
Only once in those 11 races were there 2 X 120 rated opponents in the same race.
Across 2018/2019 Enable ran 7 times in 6 Group Ones.
The rating of her best opponent in those races ranged from 122-128.
Enable never ran in a race without a 122 rated horse in it.
Four of those seven times there were 2 or more opponents rated 122+
I'm not saying Enable is better than Winx. I think Winx is the better horse overall.
But Enable certainly raced harder opponents and more of them more often.
It's impossible to know whether Enable would have handled Moonee Valley but I'm sure if Enable took Winxs place in the Turnbull and QE Stks in 2017/2018/2019 she would have clearly beaten Kluger, Youngstar, Gailo Chop and Ventura Storm over 2000 at Flemington and Randwick.
Winxs opponents got stale and after a 4 year domination drove the good horses away. Humidor in the 2017 cox plate was a worthy challenge. Benbatl has done good things. The best race she has ever raced in was her first cox plate. Highland reel, criterion and many other g1 winners. Criterion got snubbed but winx dominated. Still think people saying she's the best ever is a stretch because she never really went out of the comfort zone, just did the same things over and over. But she did them really, really well.
Winxs opponents got stale and after a 4 year domination drove the good horses away. Humidor in the 2017 cox plate was a worthy challenge. Benbatl has done good things. The best race she has ever raced in was her first cox plate. Highland reel, criterion and many other g1 winners. Criterion got snubbed but winx dominated. Still think people saying she's the best ever is a stretch because she never really went out of the comfort zone, just did the same things over and over. But she did them really, really well.
I think it’s fair to say, with all things being equal, Enable would have streeted the likes of Youngstar and Ventura Storm. It would have been interesting to see Enable in a hot 7F race, which is what we would have seen had she raced here. Once you get over distance you can make your own luck on the best horse. Winx winning streak really has no equal in that regard.
Don't get me wrong Marcus, I too think Winx was exceptional.
However I categorise her as one of the best, not the best.
Her record is amazing, but she needed much harder testing to be the best.
People say she wasn't tested because she was so much better than her opposition but I also think part of it was that her opposition was inferior.
If you gave Australian middle distance racing an overall rating between 1965 and 2005 a of 90/100 I'd say Winx was racing against 75-80 out 100 level horses.
If you said Winx was a 95 and Sunline was a 93 the difference to me was that Sunline raced against 85-90 out of 100 horses. Winx raced against 75-80 out of 100 horses.
Shut the fuck up troll
and a year later the pricks shut down the life;
This is just an Australian champion. In Europe she will be just a good horse not more..
Stupid comment.You have no clue